@Brad Watson so you have to bring in the book that has age of the world as 6000 years into this scientific discussion and try to confuse . It has brought enough misery and provided and continue to provide cover for untold savagery. Nauseaus to put it mildly.
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Jim Al khalili is an amazing presenter of science. I've seen all his documentary films each more than once. I'm looking for more, but sadly I think he no longer makes new ones.
I love the clarity of his voice too. He disappeared for a decade but seems to have reappeared having lost quite a bit of weight. Looks overly thin in this video!
Absolutely amazing video. Thank-you Jim Al-khalili. I wish more people would immerse themselves in such profound, intellectual science rather than brainless videos in social media! Perhaps the world would be a better place and nature would be saved from human stupidity.
I think Jim al-K is great too. I've recently discovered a YT channel called Jeffrey Kaplan who teaches philosophy - he is supremely talented in making difficult topics easy to grasp.
This is one of several science docus made by director Nic Stacey. He made them into works of art as well as of knowledge. One of the great directors, in my opinion.
I saw the original BBC series titled "The secret Life of Chaos" that if I recall correctly was around 2 hours. That was one the most insightful video series I have ever watched. That video needs to be shown to all high school students.
Jin is an amazing physics professor. I learn a lot of lessons in physics from him. He explains strong nuclear forces intuitively using two magnets of the same polarity wrapping around by a velvet to keep them from expelling apart. That is an creative demonstration of how strong nuclear force works at a close distance. I am very impressed by his teaching ability. Thanks, Jim.
This is the standard documentaries should be held to. After watching, am i better for it? Jim Al Khalil always makes me feel like a better person for taking the time to watch. Belleza!
I watched this documentary over a decade ago. It's BBC's 'The Secret Life of Chaos'. It helped me end an existential debate between a friend of mine and myself which had gone on for almost 5 years. That debate was over the fact that humans would one day be able to predict the weather or not and possibly the future with enough computing power. This ended it because its sooo clear that the universe is not built on principles that can be shortcutted. Between this and Stephen Wolfram and his cellular automata, not to mention Godel's incompleteness theorem and the Uncertainty principle of Quantum mechanics, the utopian vision of perfect human knowledge is unachievable. Thank God. I can't imagine what the Technocratic elites would do with a machine that could predict with perfect accuracy.
i studied Complex Systems, Chaos Theory, Thermodynamics, Computational Complexity and a bunch of other sciences for about a decade, to answer a particular, similiar question. In the end, All of it points to Stephan Wolfram's Physics Model as the theory behind it all. Cheers,
well, i think science has been really good at improving predictions and minimizing error weather prediction has been improving with te passing of the years, so i dont see how can you be so sure about your asessment
They don't understand chaos theory. Chaos theory means everything is connected. The starting position is true in very simple systems. But the weather is not a simple system.
@@alejandrogaray4649 Watch the video. Lookup Stephen Wolfram and computational complexity. Lookup and read about the fact that even orbital mechanics (some of the best mathematics we currently have that have amazing predictive capablities about the orbits of planetary bodies) have error margins. These are not errors in measurement which is the most commone misconception, they are 'errors in reality', by which I mean its best to think of the the universe as a computational engine, with particles an energy being computed at the plank length, and this strongly implies that the thing which we are trying to predict (reality itself) hasn't done the computations yet, and its the fastest computer around able to do the job. All other computers we build are like VM's (virtual machines) inside the master bare metal computer (the universe itself), and if know anythiing about computer science you will automatically understand that the VM can never be faster than the Master computer it runs on.
@@NightmareCourtPictures Yes exactly. He was right and then despised for it. He's a brillian albeit somewhat unlikable character since he knows he is a genius and doesn't hide it. I love that about him, but it isn't great for PR since the vast majority of humanity despises intelligence in others. Too threatening.
Wow. The content and the delivery are genius. I wish middle (or even elementary) school students watched your videos as part of their MANDATORY curriculum. It’s not only about science, but also about the human society with its warts and all…
I was fascinated when this was first presented on BBC Horizon, and all these years later, I'm still equally fascinated. So much to contemplate here, including how this relates to today's AI advancements.
I recall a program called Connections that linked discoveries and scientists in order to show how these things progress. Professor Al-Khalili has a real gift for this, it makes science memorable and real.
Yes, Connections was presented by James Burke, another brilliant science presenter, there are episodes available on youtube, well worth rewatching after all this time.
This is an extrodinary video and makes complete sense to me. I have often wondered how we came to to be what we are and this video is the closest most sensible explanation I have come across yet. Thank you to all the people that figured this out.
Me too. I've heard the term "chaos theory" thrown around. I think I even Googled it at one point. But I never really got what it was. Only a small piece. Having it all put together kind of knocks you for a philosophical loop.
One missing piece of the puzzle is that the emergent principals at work are also a self organizing self similar fractal. There is an oscillation of sorts between simple rules and emergent complexity. With each emergent complex system, it self abstracts and generates a new level of simple equations from which another layer of complexity can emerge. You can see this when you start with the smallest subatomic particles assembling themselves into atomic elements, the Atoms then self organize into molecules, the molecules then self organize into proteins and so on up to an most likely past filaments made of galactic superclusters.
A beautiful piece of work. As ever Jim presents these complex scientific ideas beautifully. perhaps illustrating the principles that complex is born out of simplicity. This has got to be my favourite documentary by Jim. Stunning to see how easy the world can be manipulated to show what they want you to see. All the while knowing that nothing in nature can be so predicted that it can be controlled.
@duncancollins6722...Although I agree that humans (probably) can't entirely predict changes in nature & therefore cannot control nature, this is true only in the sense that we can't control nature in the more complete way that western society has attempted since at least the advent of the modern era---that is, in the Europe of the early scientific age, when philosophies of science began developing the idea of mankind as the only rational animal, of non-human animals as mechanical forms that might appear alive but which were actually without emotions or intellect. In many ways, early science was merely repeating Christian beliefs: mankind as created in God's image, with all other lifeforms & the earth itself as existing primarily for mankind's use, etc, & the Christian view continued to dominate scientific belief through much of the 20th c Only in recent years has science begun to recognize non-human animals as possibly capable of thought as complex as that of humans. In fact, science has begun to recognize that many forms of life previously classified as inanimate fact not inanimate. This view has not replaced the former animate/inanimate view of life in mainstream/dominant society, although it has gained some popularity worldwide. This newer view in science has developed alongside the growth of movements that include the animal rights movement, the ecological movements, etc. (Perhaps these sociopolitical movements influenced scientific thought, or perhaps these changes occurred simultaneously---that's another subject.) I think these changes in scientific thought were influenced by various movements that arose in the last half of the 20th c., including the spread of popular ideas based upon (Am.) Indian cultures that became more well known among members of the dominant culture (Euro-Am.). With the wider attention given to Native cultures in the '70s, partly prompted by the more vocal parts of the movement by Native peoples to achieve recognition & rights nationally & internationally, the subject of cultural differences between traditional Indians & peoples who were part of the mainstream culture (basically, what is usually called modern culture), some aspects of traditional Indian cultures were adopted by members of the mainstream western society in the U.S. & elsewhere. The point is, science has become more attuned to views previously classed as primitive, backwards, & ignorant. And in recent decades science has come to recognize that the human species is not necessarily superior to all others, that in fact there seem to be many forms of life which are intelligent & emotional in ways both similar to humans & in ways very dissimilar to humans. And the traditional western division of nature into animate & inanimate forms has begun to be seriously questioned by science & by western society. Western society, though, is still dominated by the older traditional views that are based on organized Christian belief. This system of viewing life has led to the extinction of many species & the destruction of entire ecosystems worldwide, destruction which began long before European dominance of the Americas began. In my own lifetime (1948-present) I've seen the destruction of the forests in the southeastern U.S., with firsthand view of the destruction of the forests in southern Ark., where my family & ancestors had lived since just after the US seizure of the Cherokee Nation (1838-) & expulsion of the people from their homeland. My ancestors had escaped capture by US military & the legalized mobs of "white" men who Pres. Jackson awarded with legal rights to any Cherokee property seized by any means chosen by the mobs of settlers, forerunners of organizations such as the Klan. My great great grandparents, along with others who escaped the federal roundups & forced death marches to Indian Territory, made their way to southern Ark, where as yet there were many miles of deep forest unsettled by Americans, where they were able to live independently until toward the end of the 19th c. In the '50s & '60s, I lived among many miles of forest, with about a third of it old forest/"virgin" & quite a bit more of it mature forest. Living 8 miles outside the nearest town (pop. 3,000), our house was one of perhaps 50 houses scattered on dirt or gravel roads within many miles of forest. The only other town (also with abt 3000 people) in the region was 30 miles away, the nearest cities were even farther. (Ark.'s pop. was & still is quite low compared to nearby states.) The southeastern panther (cougar/puma/mtn lion) was supposedly extinct in that region, as in the eastern half of the US, except for a small number of Florida panthers who were almost extinct. But statistics, official statistics, a panther lived along the stream behind our house. Another panther lived in the deep woods that began across the road. Those were the panthers we knew of---the eastern panther is very shy of humans & is very rarely seen. At that time the native wolf species & the native black bear were never seen, having been killed off within the brief period since the area became home to non-native settlers only about half a century before. Although local people had lived by logging in the 20th c, with a logging mill owned locally in the nearest town, in the early 1960s Georgia-Pacific Corp. took over the local mill, modernizing & enlarging it. International Timber had also become active but G-P dominated. By the early '80s, the forests of the region had been almost totally " harvested" of mature trees & in place of those cut trees, G-P planted its own genetically engineered pines. The region had been composed of deciduous forests, but the international timber industry preferred to replace other trees with pines, as they were profitable. Most people have never lived in forests, much less having witnessed the destruction of such forests. Such destruction includes not only the trees but the many life forms who live within the forest. Maybe humans can't predict what plants, animals, , & "Nature"can do, maybe these will be able to survive somehow. Maybe the human species will change & somehow survive. This doesn't excuse the ways we treat the earth & all of "nature." The world dominant in today's world show no respect for life. And while "nature" might morph & survive in other forms, I fear it will survive in much-reduced complexity that we already see in the places like the forests I once knew.
This man produces amazing work, no major channel could market this quality of programming since they must dumb Thier productions down for our herd mentality. This is a wonderful channel ❤
I think presenting a pile of scientific discoveries that formed our understanding of specific pieces of reality in a logical and understandable context revealing the patterns between different “parts” of science is at least as important as each of these individual discoveries and certainly more fruitful for our understanding of the world… Thank you so much!
@Brad Watson "How do you see fractals in evolution?" Wow,, did you even watch the video? I'm sorry it didn't make sense to you but you know, the universe is under no obligation to make you understand. And really, We don't want anything to do with your primitive, superstitious, science-denying, violent, sexist, homophobic, pedophilic, genocidal, slave-owning, goat-humping Hebrew myths. It's time to grow up and give up the bronze-age immoral magic nonsense. It poisons everything.
The camera, screen, camera bit and the fractal, was explained so well, that for me it helped to slightly pull back the curtain of the mystery of life. This doc should me mandatory in high school science class. I had to watch it 3 times consecutively to really absorb the details. Thank you all for such an educational and inspiring documentary.
@@jerseygurl620 I found it disappointing in that the title promises to explain the link between chaos theory and the emergence of intelligent life, but it completely ignored it.
no you can't use this in school. atleast not yet. people will go insane realizing that everything is just random therefore there's no Creator. billions of people are not ready for that realization. people will become depressed, anxious and lonely as a result of existential crisis that eventually will result into a massive worldwide suicide that will come to unfold before our very eyes! you want that to happen?
This documentary is great! The ominous music will give some the creeps, but the important thing is Nature is a beautiful thing, and that's what should always be emphasized. Lots of people are scared of the concept of being a force of life instead of the owner. There's nothing to fear, you can never lose something you've always been all along!! Much love to all that read, our future will be a beautiful one once we learn to embrace this
All the older documentaries from Jim were mostly ruined by horrible bad sound tracks , I wish they could remaster them so we can admire them for the genius content and presentation
I still have my copy of "Classical Mechanics" by Marion (2nd Ed.): Chapter 5 on "Nonlinear Oscillations" put the "WOW!" back into Physics for me. (Thanks, Peter Scott, UCSC!) The existence of fundamental unpredictability in Classical Mechanics inspired me to study Dynamical Systems and Fluid Dynamics. I do mostly Microwave Engineering, but Chaos still gives me a "WOW!".
It’s quite a leap from simple instrumental building blocks to saying the universe doesn’t need a designer. Especially when humans are directly demonstrating with their computers the exact opposite. I literally cannot believe sometimes how blind people are. I even did research directly showing new ways of viewing the universe showing what humans actually are. Last year I sent articles in to Nature and Entropy. They were rejected. No explanation. In other words they didn’t like it. My results definitely meet predictability criteria, definitely meet-actually far far exceed all statistical standards of acceptance. I keep predicting amazing disparate things like even the linking of black holes with dark matter. The reason people don’t like the ideas is that they have the divisions of science and the humanities separated in their minds when they actually are not separate at all. Thanks 🙏🏻 for this extremely well done and much needed video! ❤ Just don’t forget consciousness and meaning!! 😊
@spiralsun How about this one: Truth is fractal. A higher truth may prove you right, if the historic scientists in this docu are any precursor to the future.
Yes....and there is a great probablility that similar minds were lost in The Holocaust, slavery in America and elsewhere, in all the millions who were born into primitive cultures and used as stoop labor for their whole lives....a waste ! ..... joe
Oh boy, where do I even begin with this documentary? I recently had the pleasure (or should I say misfortune) of watching it, and let me tell you, it was an absolutely astounding experience. The filmmakers seemed to be on a mission to impress us with their vocabulary prowess, throwing around words like "amazing," "complexity," "complicated," "simple," and "unexpected" as if they held some magical power. It's a shame that their excessive use of these terms overshadowed any meaningful content they may have had. This documentary was a rollercoaster of repetitive vocabulary. It was filled with an astonishing amount of "amazing" and "unexpected" moments, while the filmmakers seemed to have a complicated obsession with "complexity" and "simplicity." It's safe to say that their excessive use of these words did more harm than good, leaving me questioning their scientific credibility. amazing, astonishing, astounded - at least 10 time complex, complexity, complicated - at least 10 time Simple, simply, simplest, simpler - a minimum of 38 time - a that point I have stop counting unexpected - 17 time
A more common term used than 'feedback' (at least in mathematics) is that the formula (such as shown at 44:59) is iterative. Whether it is genetics, weather, the stock market, the shape of coastlines or mountains, components of the whole are reflected in the minutiae
infinite richness deserves the simplicity and quest for the splendour of truth--what a mind-blowing episode!!!!! Thanks a lot to the entire team for the appetizer of thoughts.
I have always seen patterns in life, and mostly just dismissed it as pure coincidence, from the very small to all the universes , this is a great video on so many levels. Im glad I stumbled across it.
Yes, great video, thanks. So simple and so real. Everything is connected. The big and small reflect each other. Science and God are exactly the same thing. The only difference to us is how we look at it.
What god? Can you please define this God? And what evidence do you have for this God? Please ask this God to make an appearance so we can tell if it's real.
@@benjamindover5676 yes, the fiist source and center of everything. And there have been and still are personifications on earth. The thing is, we get to choose our belief and trust. Nothing is forced on us in the spirit reality. You have chosen to dislike and distrust the evidence. So, for you none of it is real. Your choice.
@@julieisthatart "The thing is, we get to choose our belief and trust." Well,, you didn't answer my question. Probably because your god is not real and you have zero evidence for it. Also,, A wise person can't choose what to believe. I can only believe what the evidence shows. And because you didn't define what god you are talking about,, I can only take a stab in the dark and guess the god of the bible. The bible is very clear that there is not god-given free will. According to the bible god is all-powerful, all-knowing, the creator of the universe who made all the rules and has perfect knowledge of the future. No one comes to Jesus unless the Father draws them first (John 6:44). Makes all the rules, Exodus 24:12>13. Made the flaws in people, Psalm 139:12, Can do anything, Mark 10:27. Knows the future, Isaiah 46:9>10. According to the bible this god knew everything and is 100% responsible for the hurt, pain, and evil in the world. He wants it that way. That is why even if the god of the bible was true, I would not worship him. Would you like some more bible study on free will? I have about 100 verses that will prove my point.
"How do cells that are identical at the beginning know that they are to become skin, for example?" This is actually not so puzzling when you consider that the future development of a cell also depends on its environment. Separating a cell from its environment does not make sense. A cell in the center of a cell agglomeration has a different environment (see epigenetics) and it is influenced by it etc. I think many pseudo-questions do not arise if one can think in a differentiated way and pays attention to essential differences. We often do this little for economic reasons. Some of us don't think much about longer-term consequences of our current actions. Some do more, but their view is also limited. Evolution allows such "short-sightedness" temporarily but not forever. If a correction succeeds, then we are "lucky".
Excellent. The idea that the behavior of a cell is determined by its position w.r.t other cells is exactly what came to mind when watching that part of the documentary.
"Evolution allows such "short-sightedness" temporarily but not forever." What? 3.5 Billion years is not long enough for you? Evolution works just fine without you understanding it. Just look around you.
@@benjamindover5676 You completely misunderstood my comment. My fault. I should have said: Evolution allows the "short-sightedness" of our intelligence temporarily but not forever. I mean our short-sighted intelligence has the potential of killing our species.
Thank you. Was thinking just that when I found your comment. I have had similar thoughts about schools of fish. People often talk about a fishes environment as being in the ocean but its environment is in the school (depending on species, I have cod in mind as there has been some good study done on them). So dropping a few fish in the ocean is not necessarily putting them into their environment. And the school as an entity is more than just its individuals and could be older than any of the fish.
This is one of the best science documentaries that I have seen in a long time, and I do watch many each day. Thank you for such a fantastic production.
@ 3:15 - he's referring to The Fibonnacci Sequence, also known as "the Golden Ratio", a "3-4-5 triangle", represented by the Greek letter phi. It is this VISIBLE, QUANTIFIABLE MATHEMATICAL CONTROL that keeps chaos in check among living things. It reveals itself throughout nature, in some inorganic ways, but primarily in things that ARE ALREADY ORGANIC AND ALIVE TO BEGIN WITH. This control existing in the manner it does is the reason Turing's morphogenesis hypothesis doesn't hold water as it pertains to "life spontaneously forming out of the primordial soup" . The fibonnacci sequence proves there is an intelligent design component to the physical aspects of the universe. This is observable and quantifiable, not hypothetical. I don't presume to know what this intelligent designer might be, more and more I'm becoming convinced we exist in a simulation of some sort. That said, if we observe applied, not theoretical, mathematical ORDER in organic creation, it would stand to reason that there would be an observable applied CHAOS in opposition to it.
re: "The fibonnacci sequence proves there is an intelligent design component to the physical aspects of the universe." It doesn't prove anything at all. That's your personal bias because you want it to be so.
@@DataWaveTaGo it's already been mathematically proven by people a hell of a lot smarter than you or me. I don't have any bias on the subject,. Id be willing to bet YOU do, however.
@@Foundry_made Assertions doesn't prove anything. Just because you believe something doesn't mean it's true. End of conversation. Have a wonderful day or night.
Turing's great contribution to the United Kingdom's war efforts SHOULD have been rewarded by a professorship and a named life chair of his choice in any Mathematics department in any college in the Kingdom, plus a Knighthood (or even an Earldom). Instead, he was persecuted and eventually hounded into suicide. This was the gratitude that his country showed him for his magnificent service.
That may be true. How have you been made better by it? Holding a grudge against the UK isn't any help to anyone who must live in the UK. You need to forgive and understand the time when this took place. The time you're in now is no different. If you manage to live another 20 or 30 years, you will see that. If you tell yourself the truth then, you will see how you were "complicit" in the injustices we are perpetrating this very day. Life is messy and often not fair.
One of my coworkers introduced me to chaos theory in 1990 in relation to climate change. Sadly I didn't understand the full significance of what he shared until I saw this documentary.
This documentary depicts chaos theory is a very negative light; but when I came across chaos theory, I was absolutely fascinated by it. For start we know that there is infinite possibilities in terms of what can happen, endless fun, strange affects that chaos can have on things, the weirdness of it fascinated me so much. I never realized how negative people were towards it at the time. Maybe because of how it was explained in such a fascinating way, it made me see mostly the positive side to chaos; and I definitely fully understood it.
That was frickin amazing!!...I knew some of this..... but not all of it!!...He just brought it all together and I am so grateful. Another piece of the jigsaw in place...thank you so much
I wish someone had explained this in 1970 when I was building predictive models that kept giving stupid answers. I attended many lectures on chaos theory and tried to build random into observed models and it rarely gave a 'logical' answer when used in predictions.These models were run on crude computers and pencil and paper.
The complexity lives within the simplicity's rules. The simplicity's rules includes all the complexities which means all the evolving in the branches of the tree but for having a tree you still need to plant the seed, the seed or planting of the seed is simplicity. Plants will produce the seed for another same type of plant which means complexity=evolving in a loop=return to simplicity. The oscillation of it is the speed of the forming of this loop/cycle. Humans are the same, we derive from a simple embryo to become a complex human body. When we die we don't turn back into embryo but our body produces the embryo while we are alive. Which means our body evolves into one pattern and our off spring evolve into another pattern. You're right on ; no need to bother about chaos, things keep evolving, for example ; You don't need to redo a plastic surgery and get back your original look if you regret the results of the first surgery, you just have to do another surgery to make it look better. You're right on ; non thinking matter can create complex things. When apply this to humans, it's just like an artist or writer, their ideas don't come from thinking, their ideas first came from feeling. Hence, we see animal senses are much more accurate than human yet they are not intelligent beings.
This documentary is giving me an existential crisis. It is amazing that cells can become different to such a degree. I also think of Touring’s intelligence and I feel like an ant, Harvard and all.
@@GOGO2482 Try cutting back on the magic mushrooms by at least one handful. Otherwise, your dreams make perfect sense. If you're not a shaman, you are in the wrong line of work. And that pee you drank.... was mine. You're welcome. Full-on loaded with Amanita Muscaria. I thought the labeling was funny at the time. Keep on drinking pee and dreaming Dr. Yemen.
You don’t need to travel anywhere. The entire universe is embedded in your brain. Anyway, who wants to be stuck in a huge queue waiting to check-in on the intergalactic express, and then get seated next to some obese time-traveller ?
@@jamesdean1143 I can drink 2 cups of ayahuasca and beat the spaceship n get shot up into the universe in a second . I guess that makes me a time traveler. Just got to have a spew due to travel sickness
Does it? I was already confortable with idea of random events on a time scale without any interferance. This video kind of shows that this is not random and starting rules have effects.
This documentary is a cornerstone in my understanding of the universe in the same way that Carl Sagan's Cosmos was for me in the 80"s. I was already aware of the Mandelbrot Set but I hadn't connected it with intelligence and awareness.
Miracle and Magic have the same meaning of being the unexplainable or understandable occurrence. Both words describing our mental capability which is limited by our current knowledge.
Well, that explains a lot. If intelligence is founded on chaos, then this explains why people cannot think straight but only chaotic. But it doesn't explain why there are some people (a few at least) who can think straight at least once in a while. So there must be some other force/thing/whatever that effects intelligence. Of course I write this before watching the video. It more fun this way.
I wonder if using the most powerful computers, and the right conditions if they could come up with different computer generated life forms such as those based on silicon. But could you do this accurately without the outside pressers like microbes, or predators. It would be amazing to see the results.
What an excellent, elegant and informative piece of work. Profound respect and gratitude for Professor Al-Khalili and his colleagues. Glory to the Grand Architecture of the Universe:.
I'm Catholic. I think I've watched this six times. I think the premise is atheistic/ materiism...but this is well presented in a respectful way. Fascinating...
It is science! irrespective to our faith we should accept it. Being "Atheist Hindu=hindu but not believing in god, believe in karma and natural justice". Find new way towards God, for someone's more discovere about science and evolution.
This isn't about atheism or deism. It's about science. It's about thinking about things from base principals and investigating empirically. No assumptions one way or another about the existence of gods need to be made or are relevant to the endeavour, any more than the existence of, say, unicorns.
@lairdinho what about order truth intelligibility? Natural philosophy assumes the world is intelligible. Science in the way you put it is metaphysics...what is..you have to assume the scientific agent is rational and able to derive something true from observation. The agency of the scientist precludes science. Sorry dude...science has its assumptions..substitute unicorn with scientist.
@@jMerkyJJ That's pure gibberish. You don't have to assume anything about the scientist or his / her rationality. You only have to worry about the science itself. Parse / analyse the science. The veracity of 𝝅r² or E = mc² are not dependent on the characteristics, rationality or otherwise of any scientist or any metaphysical assumption. You suffering under the weight of some very silly stone age superstitions. You no more need to include notions of sky gods to consider 𝝅r² than you do the content of this documentary. If you can explain why notions of theisms or atheism are required to consider the merits of 𝝅r² as it pertains to defining the area of a circle, then you'd be on to something. But you can't and won't because in fact what you are dealing in is stone age superstition and magical thinking and it's totally irrelevant to the subject of this documentary.
I feel like this episode explains our life in a nutshell. by our free will of choices in life, we can alter the what was Pre-Determined lives of our future.
me too as soon as i see its him click im there for the rest of the program .for years now he has a way that help you understand the most complicated concepts .....
While we often hear the retort that we believe in the "God of the Gaps" who explains the things that Science hasn't figured out yet, we can answer that atheists put their unreasoning faith in the assumption that human science can eventually answer every possible question about Life, the Universe and Everything. Today (actually almost 50 years ago), we hear about how Chaos theory explains how simple systems of nearly identical moving parts can develop complexity "all on their own." It's a wonderful progress for math and science. But this is supposed to explain how life began on our planet? How silly! You haven't even begun to dig deep enough. All you have done is to create an implicit "straw man" argument, in order to debunk your own childish imagination. "We don't need a Creator." Really? You have constructed an image of a paper tiger God. How often do you think God has to come down and personally intervene in the machinery of his creation? Can't He create something that will work correctly without breaking down? Do you want Him to interfere with your life on a daily basis, making things happen so that you will be forced to acknowledge His Presence? No? I didn't think so. But that's not his preferred mode of operation. He doesn't force Himself on anyone. So then, why do you think that God has to keep stirring the pot in order to make his creation develop as intended? God seems to appreciate the idea of planning things out in detail, setting things in motion, and then stepping back to watch how it goes. Indeed, the theorem of Occam's Razor sounds like one of his guiding principles. He wants to keep it simple, elegant, but simple. One of the more enlightened speculations about God was to imagine that He is an infinite Cosmic Watchmaker, who built the world like a clock, wound it up and set it to run by itself. And so it does, mostly. God created the first life on the Earth, and guided it toward the creation of the kinds of beings He wants to populate the planet. It doesn't take a lot of interference to do that. Although we might question a few of his methods, I'm sure that none of us could come up with better ones that insure that He can remain hidden behind the scenes. Remember, when He reveals Himself, He is demanding that you must believe in Him, so that has to wait. So maybe nature doesn't need an active, busily interfering creator to design complexity. You still have not shown that it doesn't need God. You may have pushed Him back to the beginning, simply to reveal Him as the Lawmaker, or as I already said, the Watchmaker. You did, however, demonstrate the need for simple rules. So where do those rules come from? Again, it's like the Big Bang theory. Where do the rules that make the Universe as we know it come from? Not from trial and error, or it would never succeed. Granted, you can get some degree of complexity from undifferentiated simplicity, but you still can't explain how that becomes information, and then, how information becomes message, and how message becomes instruction, and step by step until eventually, you get illumination and purpose. The need for intention is clear. Without an initial input from an amazingly intelligent designer, you may get sand dunes, but you'll never get Socrates. The levels upon levels of complexity, leading up to consciousness, intelligence, freedom of choice, and finally to purposeful planning, just can't come from random processes. It began from the intention of a Great Mind. And in the last few minutes of the video, you had to admit it. However, there is no difference between needing a "really clever designer" for a "grand simulation" (57:10 ff) and recognizing the God who created the Universe. The sticking point is, perhaps, that your simulation "designer" does not make any particular moral demands on his "Nominal Player Characters," while God expects his favorite creatures to attempt to emulate his goodness. Refusing to believe in God is just a way to say that you don't want to hear Him asking you to behave properly.
Brilliant. But no process, even fractal and mathematical rules cannot generate information. The Mandelbrot set contains patterns, as do crystals made of minerals. The simplest cells which resemble those to-day are based on matter specifically organized by data. The storage of data as base pairs of DNA is both digital and the densest form of encoding ever discovered. The mathematical calculations which underpin analysis of living systems takes the math behind the 3 body problem and turns it into a trillion body problem. Data is encoded as a discrete function in a string written and read in "time-wise fashion." In even the simplest living cell, the quantity of data is truly unimaginable. All the stored data in your body as DNA, stretched out and stitched together, would reattach from the surface of the Earth to the Sun and back 30 times. And every nanometer is either packaged shut, temporarily closed off, or open and available for being read and acted upon. The switching mechanisms responsible for the qualities and function of each cell, whether the simplest bacterium, to you, are also impossible for one human to visualize. The appearance that life is simple, and even evolution is simple, and can actually be described by mathematical equations and basic overarching concepts was apparent to Turing and Darwin. But, like a passenger's viewpoint of a jet aircraft, whose flight characteristics can be treated mathematically without regards generally to choice of hull material or inner workings of the pilot's control switches or the passenger's entertainment choices, the airliner is simple: pay money, walk in, strap in, unstrap with landing, Deborah at a new destination. Overarching principles of physics like volume and temperature regulation do shape life. But something deep, a much greater mystery, goes unmentioned: if random processes never create digitally encoded information, what did which? And, if 3 million " bits" are required to specify both genes and operating system functions in the simplest life forms, how? The better question, which scientific thought refuses to touch, like a high voltage power line, is, Who? And, what can we deduce accurately from our discoveries must be the nature of this "Who?"
An interesting, smart response, acknowledging these findings, while seemingly being generally aware of what we do know. Ending with what's presented as the ultimate question, with not a hint of an answer, leaves likes of me to venture a response, that at least beginning with 'what its most likely not'. That can be generally defined as nothing relating to human spun religion, back when the sun went round the earth, along with 5 planets, all that being the creation of something warranting the title of creator, while initiating some JC character, who was, and some claim still is, 'son of G'. I think me expanding on one of those R myths, all others warrant similar discredit. Me concluding I'm a natural atheist, refusing to get up or Sunday school aged 10, knowing my parents wouldn't force me. I do recall, actually decades later, becoming aware of the term atheist, which game me one simple word I could identify as. So, I'm content not to define, or even believe in any who, since I have no idea and nor does anyone else. But with the gaps in god of the . . keep narrowing, it contents me to learn of chaos as identified here and consider it along with the idea we may be but an element of a multiverse, I think legitimately adding even more chaos, I'm personally content to muddle along as part of.
@@eddieheron1939 the truth is that some Intelligence created life, usually updated it by using "natural means" such as a virus bringing in the precisely matching data and O. S. But usually any random event could never produce caterpillar to butterfly changes, etc.. If you examine all of this, and observe ongoing evidence of intervention, but then find evidence for a "Spiritual reality" as well, then religion is like a science in that, not testable ( thank you, Creator!) but historical and experiential evidence is there. This JC character: the Buddha produced no miracles ( and, yes, they still occur!) But here comes someone making impossible claims, is tortured and put to death in a manner that no amount of "mistaken for dead" was possible. Soon after, the disciples were transformed into bold people willingly martyred, with the myth-making process of
@@eddieheron1939 I know what I and others have seen. "No one knows" is not true. And teaching children there is nothing Transcendent does not hold them accountable for what is damaging to all history, called "sin" or, " missing the mark." Even Dawkins admitted the value of faith, felt she a me at scoring points against apologists when he knew he was being intellectually dishonest. As I see it, humans will worship a person ior they will worship a Person. But only radical grace and the law of love restrains most followers, where any "Ism" does not.
The natural human scientific response to the spectral lines of hydrogen cry out for "How???" Multiverses fail, because the sheer number are staggering, and still beg the question- can a multiverse act intelligently at the level observed?
@@eddieheron1939 what can be deduced about this Superintelligence? Maybe there are 2 levels of Being, both being Creators, (they) have no requirement to be found within their Creation, any more than Steve Jobs could be expected to be found within any Apple product, or Shakespeare needn't have appeared in any play he wrote (if he did). First: power beyond our grasp, to create spacetime so its properties force the >16 fundamental particles/processes to have limits and specificity to their interactions. Intelligence, foresight, grasp of how things must fit together to work to achieve a necessary set of actions for life, ecosystems, maintenence of Earth's biosphere. Intervention: no clock-maker here, set it and let it go. Consider caterpillar to moth, (and moth to butterfly as far as the nanostructures which refract light into colors) asexual leaf eater to sexual pollen eater. Vast new sections of operating system and new proteins are needed for the transformation while keeping it alive. Humor: the absurdity of life forms, sexual habits, us humans... The long view : evil, being the destruction of what is beautiful, good, non-destructive, is part of a self-regulating system, one where evolution can occur. Tenderness: what constituts he care of the innocent by mothers and fathers. Revelation:Hints of something beyond the material : dreams, NDE's, awareness. across vast distances of events, etc. A grasp of beauty: simply consider all that is beautiful. I think those are the basics...
Thankyou! You've finally described the underlying most basic force of the universe - to tend to ever increasing beauty & complexity. *Emergence* of Order, from it's cousin Chaos. Love it. 💜 "Surprise me, Holy Void!"
9:30. Does the wind organise the sand or the sand grains self- organize ? Both are mutually exclusive: if the wind organizes , then sand grains cannot self- organize and vice versa. This is the first problem. The second problem is how the causal chain is initiated - in the order of precedence which comes first, is it the wind or the self-organizing nature of the sand grains? If it is wind , what makes air to change into wind ? If it is the sand grains, what is the source of origin of its organizing ability ?
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@@docoftheday yeah of course 🙂
Same.
@Brad Watson so you have to bring in the book that has age of the world as 6000 years into this scientific discussion and try to confuse . It has brought enough misery and provided and continue to provide cover for untold savagery. Nauseaus to put it mildly.
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Jim Al-Khalili is one of the best presenters for some of these deeper documentaries.
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I totally agree.
He's pretty good.
How come he's not in the House of Lords yet? "Sir Jim" has a nice ring to it, doncha think?
@@TheDavidlloydjones I believe "Sir" is a Knighthood, not a Lordship.
As soon as I saw he was presenting, I hit play. He's able to navigate incredibly complex issues with fluid accessibility few others can match.
Jim Al khalili is an amazing presenter of science. I've seen all his documentary films each more than once. I'm looking for more, but sadly I think he no longer makes new ones.
@Mr_Happy_X I want to go on a picnic so I pick mic it's not that funny 😒
He made one called the planets a year ago
I love the clarity of his voice too. He disappeared for a decade but seems to have reappeared having lost quite a bit of weight. Looks overly thin in this video!
Absolutely amazing video. Thank-you Jim Al-khalili. I wish more people would immerse themselves in such profound, intellectual science rather than brainless videos in social media! Perhaps the world would be a better place and nature would be saved from human stupidity.
Lucky for us, not all humans are stupid...
For those of us who can't do the maths.
I totally agree with your statement with such outstanding questions about our very existence is what every human being should aspire to
Jim al-khalili you are my favorite teacher i ever have had!! Thank you for making it so much fun to learn!!!
I think Jim al-K is great too. I've recently discovered a YT channel called Jeffrey Kaplan who teaches philosophy - he is supremely talented in making difficult topics easy to grasp.
you realize this is one a thousands of ytoutube channels that steal content and post it,,, jimbo aint seeing your msg
Favourite.
This is one of several science docus made by director Nic Stacey. He made them into works of art as well as of knowledge. One of the great directors, in my opinion.
Sucked. Promised the Miracle of Intelligent Life, but delivered drone music to snooze to. Teabag wanker.
Where does mutation come from???? This is the question:)))) Who can prove that in a particular sense it cannot be from God!!! :)
@@sergkapitan2578 God is a mutation of human thinking and unfounded fear.
@@zipperpillow excellent comment!
@@sergkapitan2578 Go away
I saw the original BBC series titled "The secret Life of Chaos" that if I recall correctly was around 2 hours. That was one the most insightful video series I have ever watched.
That video needs to be shown to all high school students.
Jin is an amazing physics professor. I learn a lot of lessons in physics from him. He explains strong nuclear forces intuitively using two magnets of the same polarity wrapping around by a velvet to keep them from expelling apart. That is an creative demonstration of how strong nuclear force works at a close distance. I am very impressed by his teaching ability. Thanks, Jim.
He's basically saying there is no God. I'm sorry but that's simply not possible.
This is the standard documentaries should be held to. After watching, am i better for it? Jim Al Khalil always makes me feel like a better person for taking the time to watch. Belleza!
I watched this documentary over a decade ago. It's BBC's 'The Secret Life of Chaos'. It helped me end an existential debate between a friend of mine and myself which had gone on for almost 5 years. That debate was over the fact that humans would one day be able to predict the weather or not and possibly the future with enough computing power. This ended it because its sooo clear that the universe is not built on principles that can be shortcutted. Between this and Stephen Wolfram and his cellular automata, not to mention Godel's incompleteness theorem and the Uncertainty principle of Quantum mechanics, the utopian vision of perfect human knowledge is unachievable. Thank God. I can't imagine what the Technocratic elites would do with a machine that could predict with perfect accuracy.
i studied Complex Systems, Chaos Theory, Thermodynamics, Computational Complexity and a bunch of other sciences for about a decade, to answer a particular, similiar question. In the end, All of it points to Stephan Wolfram's Physics Model as the theory behind it all.
Cheers,
well, i think science has been really good at improving predictions and minimizing error
weather prediction has been improving with te passing of the years, so i dont see how can you be so sure about your asessment
They don't understand chaos theory. Chaos theory means everything is connected. The starting position is true in very simple systems. But the weather is not a simple system.
@@alejandrogaray4649 Watch the video. Lookup Stephen Wolfram and computational complexity. Lookup and read about the fact that even orbital mechanics (some of the best mathematics we currently have that have amazing predictive capablities about the orbits of planetary bodies) have error margins. These are not errors in measurement which is the most commone misconception, they are 'errors in reality', by which I mean its best to think of the the universe as a computational engine, with particles an energy being computed at the plank length, and this strongly implies that the thing which we are trying to predict (reality itself) hasn't done the computations yet, and its the fastest computer around able to do the job. All other computers we build are like VM's (virtual machines) inside the master bare metal computer (the universe itself), and if know anythiing about computer science you will automatically understand that the VM can never be faster than the Master computer it runs on.
@@NightmareCourtPictures Yes exactly. He was right and then despised for it. He's a brillian albeit somewhat unlikable character since he knows he is a genius and doesn't hide it. I love that about him, but it isn't great for PR since the vast majority of humanity despises intelligence in others. Too threatening.
Wow. The content and the delivery are genius. I wish middle (or even elementary) school students watched your videos as part of their MANDATORY curriculum. It’s not only about science, but also about the human society with its warts and all…
Only a Brit would buy they are the only ones involved in this theory.
You guys are beyond belief with your superiority complexes
Too many in education think they have the answer already using the clockwork principle, socialism.
Falsehood
I miss Jim's videos, it's such a pleasure to hear him talk, he's the best, can someone take note of that please, I think I'm not alone
Jim Al-khalili is the best host of scientific programs, bravo BBC - perfect choice!
Astonishing truths. Everyone should watch this piece of art. Thanks Jim Al-Khalili.. A beautiful lesson and demonstration.Thank you very much.
I was fascinated when this was first presented on BBC Horizon, and all these years later, I'm still equally fascinated. So much to contemplate here, including how this relates to today's AI advancements.
Me too, I've watched lots on AI but this made it so much clearer to me.
Astonishing truths. Everyone should watch this piece of art. Thanks Jim Al-Khalili.
I was given a copy of Chaos by James Gleck in the 90’s. What a book, certainly changed the way I see the world
One of my favorite books a well!
I recall a program called Connections that linked discoveries and scientists in order to show how these things progress. Professor Al-Khalili has a real gift for this, it makes science memorable and real.
Yes, Connections was presented by James Burke, another brilliant science presenter, there are episodes available on youtube, well worth rewatching after all this time.
This is an extrodinary video and makes complete sense to me. I have often wondered how we came to to be what we are and this video is the closest most sensible explanation I have come across yet. Thank you to all the people that figured this out.
Me too. I've heard the term "chaos theory" thrown around. I think I even Googled it at one point. But I never really got what it was. Only a small piece. Having it all put together kind of knocks you for a philosophical loop.
One missing piece of the puzzle is that the emergent principals at work are also a self organizing self similar fractal. There is an oscillation of sorts between simple rules and emergent complexity. With each emergent complex system, it self abstracts and generates a new level of simple equations from which another layer of complexity can emerge. You can see this when you start with the smallest subatomic particles assembling themselves into atomic elements, the Atoms then self organize into molecules, the molecules then self organize into proteins and so on up to an most likely past filaments made of galactic superclusters.
Until the great attractor emerges and makes everything the same.
Chaos by James Gleick is a deep but fascinating book on this subject
Excellent point. Good insight. This seems quite clear once you think about it.
A beautiful piece of work. As ever Jim presents these complex scientific ideas beautifully. perhaps illustrating the principles that complex is born out of simplicity. This has got to be my favourite documentary by Jim. Stunning to see how easy the world can be manipulated to show what they want you to see. All the while knowing that nothing in nature can be so predicted that it can be controlled.
@duncancollins6722...Although I agree that humans (probably) can't entirely predict changes in nature & therefore cannot control nature, this is true only in the sense that we can't control nature in the more complete way that western society has attempted since at least the advent of the modern era---that is, in the Europe of the early scientific age, when philosophies of science began developing the idea of mankind as the only rational animal, of non-human animals as mechanical forms that might appear alive but which were actually without emotions or intellect. In many ways, early science was merely repeating Christian beliefs: mankind as created in God's image, with all other lifeforms & the earth itself as existing primarily for mankind's use, etc, & the Christian view continued to dominate scientific belief through much of the 20th c Only in recent years has science begun to recognize non-human animals as possibly capable of thought as complex as that of humans.
In fact, science has begun to recognize that many forms of life previously classified as inanimate fact not inanimate. This view has not replaced the former animate/inanimate view of life in mainstream/dominant society, although it has gained some popularity worldwide. This newer view in science has developed alongside the growth of movements that include the animal rights movement, the ecological movements, etc. (Perhaps these sociopolitical movements influenced scientific thought, or perhaps these changes occurred simultaneously---that's another subject.)
I think these changes in scientific thought were influenced by various movements that arose in the last half of the 20th c., including the spread of popular ideas based upon (Am.) Indian cultures that became more well known among members of the dominant culture (Euro-Am.). With the wider attention given to Native cultures in the '70s, partly prompted by the more vocal parts of the movement by Native peoples to achieve recognition & rights nationally & internationally, the subject of cultural differences between traditional Indians & peoples who were part of the mainstream culture (basically, what is usually called modern culture), some aspects of traditional Indian cultures were adopted by members of the mainstream western society in the U.S. & elsewhere.
The point is, science has become more attuned to views previously classed as primitive, backwards, & ignorant. And in recent decades science has come to recognize that the human species is not necessarily superior to all others, that in fact there seem to be many forms of life which are intelligent & emotional in ways both similar to humans & in ways very dissimilar to humans. And the traditional western division of nature into animate & inanimate forms has begun to be seriously questioned by science & by western society.
Western society, though, is still dominated by the older traditional views that are based on organized Christian belief. This system of viewing life has led to the extinction of many species & the destruction of entire ecosystems worldwide, destruction which began long before European dominance of the Americas began.
In my own lifetime (1948-present) I've seen the destruction of the forests in the southeastern U.S., with firsthand view of the destruction of the forests in southern Ark., where my family & ancestors had lived since just after the US seizure of the Cherokee Nation (1838-) & expulsion of the people from their homeland. My ancestors had escaped capture by US military & the legalized mobs of "white" men who Pres. Jackson awarded with legal rights to any Cherokee property seized by any means chosen by the mobs of settlers, forerunners of organizations such as the Klan.
My great great grandparents, along with others who escaped the federal roundups & forced death marches to Indian Territory, made their way to southern Ark, where as yet there were many miles of deep forest unsettled by Americans, where they were able to live independently until toward the end of the 19th c.
In the '50s & '60s, I lived among many miles of forest, with about a third of it old forest/"virgin" & quite a bit more of it mature forest. Living 8 miles outside the nearest town (pop. 3,000), our house was one of perhaps 50 houses scattered on dirt or gravel roads within many miles of forest. The only other town (also with abt 3000 people) in the region was 30 miles away, the nearest cities were even farther. (Ark.'s pop. was & still is quite low compared to nearby states.) The southeastern panther (cougar/puma/mtn lion) was
supposedly extinct in that region, as in the eastern half of the US, except for a small number of Florida panthers who were almost extinct. But statistics, official statistics, a panther lived along the stream behind our house. Another panther lived in the deep woods that began across the road. Those were the panthers we knew of---the eastern panther is very shy of humans & is very rarely seen.
At that time the native wolf species & the native black bear were never seen, having been killed off within the brief period since the area became home to non-native settlers only about half a century before.
Although local people had lived by logging in the 20th c, with a logging mill owned locally in the nearest town, in the early 1960s Georgia-Pacific Corp. took over the local mill, modernizing & enlarging it. International Timber had also become active but G-P dominated.
By the early '80s, the forests of the region had been almost totally " harvested" of mature trees & in place of those cut trees, G-P planted its own genetically engineered pines. The region had been composed of deciduous forests, but the international timber industry preferred to replace other trees with pines, as they were profitable.
Most people have never lived in forests, much less having witnessed the destruction of such forests. Such destruction includes not only the trees but the many life forms who live within the forest.
Maybe humans can't predict what plants, animals, , & "Nature"can do, maybe these will be able to survive somehow. Maybe the human species will change & somehow survive. This doesn't excuse the ways we treat the earth & all of "nature." The world dominant in today's world show no respect for life. And while "nature" might morph & survive in other forms, I fear it will survive in much-reduced complexity that we already see in the places like the forests I once knew.
Thank you for keeping this documentary. It is such an amazing piece. Totally mindblowing.
Very fascinating! Jim Al-Khalili is a brilliant speaker - captured my attention completely.
This man produces amazing work, no major channel could market this quality of programming since they must dumb Thier productions down for our herd mentality. This is a wonderful channel ❤
I think presenting a pile of scientific discoveries that formed our understanding of specific pieces of reality in a logical and understandable context revealing the patterns between different “parts” of science is at least as important as each of these individual discoveries and certainly more fruitful for our understanding of the world…
Thank you so much!
this documentari is more like science drama oversimplification makes it full of errors done in sake to crate drama
I remember when I stumbled upon Fractals. It changed my understanding of everything, specifically Evolution.
@Brad Watson "How do you see fractals in evolution?"
Wow,, did you even watch the video?
I'm sorry it didn't make sense to you but you know, the universe is under no obligation to make you understand.
And really, We don't want anything to do with your primitive, superstitious, science-denying, violent, sexist, homophobic, pedophilic, genocidal, slave-owning, goat-humping Hebrew myths.
It's time to grow up and give up the bronze-age immoral magic nonsense.
It poisons everything.
Out of _all_ of the science shows ever created, Prof. Jim Al Khalili's are the finest, most intriguing and beautiful one could ever watch.
The camera, screen, camera bit and the fractal, was explained so well, that for me it helped to slightly pull back the curtain of the mystery of life. This doc should me mandatory in high school science class. I had to watch it 3 times consecutively to really absorb the details. Thank you all for such an educational and inspiring documentary.
Yes but it could be argued that it’s an advanced topic and healthy patterns of thinking should be thought first.
@@alfonso8843 Agreed, however, often topics like these serve to spark critical thinking in young students.
@@jerseygurl620 I found it disappointing in that the title promises to explain the link between chaos theory and the emergence of intelligent life, but it completely ignored it.
@@eddiecephus1hat's because there is no scientific evidence for linking them (reply to comment about link between chaos and intelligent life)
no you can't use this in school. atleast not yet. people will go insane realizing that everything is just random therefore there's no Creator. billions of people are not ready for that realization. people will become depressed, anxious and lonely as a result of existential crisis that eventually will result into a massive worldwide suicide that will come to unfold before our very eyes! you want that to happen?
Absolutely superb presentation, certainly makes you feel anything is possible.
This documentary is great! The ominous music will give some the creeps, but the important thing is Nature is a beautiful thing, and that's what should always be emphasized. Lots of people are scared of the concept of being a force of life instead of the owner.
There's nothing to fear, you can never lose something you've always been all along!! Much love to all that read, our future will be a beautiful one once we learn to embrace this
All the older documentaries from Jim were mostly ruined by horrible bad sound tracks , I wish they could remaster them so we can admire them for the genius content and presentation
Crucial points on the creative potential of self-organization, clearly and compellingly made! Thanks to all concerned.
I still have my copy of "Classical Mechanics" by Marion (2nd Ed.): Chapter 5 on "Nonlinear Oscillations" put the "WOW!" back into Physics for me. (Thanks, Peter Scott, UCSC!) The existence of fundamental unpredictability in Classical Mechanics inspired me to study Dynamical Systems and Fluid Dynamics.
I do mostly Microwave Engineering, but Chaos still gives me a "WOW!".
Jim al khalil is up there with the best fantastic, simple, easy to understand information
This great man Mr.Touring should be honored for his beautiful mind and the lives it saved and the Questions and answers it opened up 4 the rest of us.
It’s quite a leap from simple instrumental building blocks to saying the universe doesn’t need a designer. Especially when humans are directly demonstrating with their computers the exact opposite. I literally cannot believe sometimes how blind people are. I even did research directly showing new ways of viewing the universe showing what humans actually are. Last year I sent articles in to Nature and Entropy. They were rejected. No explanation. In other words they didn’t like it. My results definitely meet predictability criteria, definitely meet-actually far far exceed all statistical standards of acceptance. I keep predicting amazing disparate things like even the linking of black holes with dark matter. The reason people don’t like the ideas is that they have the divisions of science and the humanities separated in their minds when they actually are not separate at all. Thanks 🙏🏻 for this extremely well done and much needed video! ❤
Just don’t forget consciousness and meaning!! 😊
@spiralsun
How about this one:
Truth is fractal.
A higher truth may prove you right, if the historic scientists in this docu are any precursor to the future.
They don't want to consider that there might be more than meets the eye.
They were rejected, nuff said.
Your comments are interesting. You wrote, "...showing what humans actually are". -- Contextually, what are humans?
Truth versus consensus...
"Future will be amazing" sounds diplomatic. Narration is top class.
Unforgivable what happened to Alan Turing !
Yes....and there is a great probablility that similar minds were lost in The Holocaust, slavery in America and elsewhere, in all the millions who were born into primitive cultures and used as stoop labor for their whole lives....a waste ! ..... joe
When I read his biographies and I started crying all the way through the text… Nothing changed since then!
He was guilty of he was accused of,, he was gay he knew the law, had it coming
Oh boy, where do I even begin with this documentary? I recently had the pleasure (or should I say misfortune) of watching it, and let me tell you, it was an absolutely astounding experience. The filmmakers seemed to be on a mission to impress us with their vocabulary prowess, throwing around words like "amazing," "complexity," "complicated," "simple," and "unexpected" as if they held some magical power. It's a shame that their excessive use of these terms overshadowed any meaningful content they may have had.
This documentary was a rollercoaster of repetitive vocabulary. It was filled with an astonishing amount of "amazing" and "unexpected" moments, while the filmmakers seemed to have a complicated obsession with "complexity" and "simplicity." It's safe to say that their excessive use of these words did more harm than good, leaving me questioning their scientific credibility.
amazing, astonishing, astounded - at least 10 time
complex, complexity, complicated - at least 10 time
Simple, simply, simplest, simpler - a minimum of 38 time - a that point I have stop counting
unexpected - 17 time
Looking forward to your improved version.
Bravo! A+ Now please apply these lessons of self-organization to AI, friends.
Fascinating, what a journey! Great video great information & has wetted my appetite for more of this scientific education!
Thank-you. Wonderful show!! I learned and enjoyed.
He has such a great way of explaining difficult concepts and making them interesting
A more common term used than 'feedback' (at least in mathematics) is that the formula (such as shown at 44:59) is iterative. Whether it is genetics, weather, the stock market, the shape of coastlines or mountains, components of the whole are reflected in the minutiae
Prof J.A.K is a godsend (metaphorically speaking) to science education. It is a golden era for such documentaries thanks to people like him.
The god of this world is Lucifer and J.A.K is sent by him to further the Religion of science , so literally speaking you are right
This is an absolutely fantastic video...seriously!
This is one of, if not the best videos I have ever witnessed. I salute you
infinite richness deserves the simplicity and quest for the splendour of truth--what a mind-blowing episode!!!!! Thanks a lot to the entire team for the appetizer of thoughts.
I have always seen patterns in life, and mostly just dismissed it as pure coincidence, from the very small to all the universes , this is a great video on so many levels. Im glad I stumbled across it.
Masterful presentation and kudos to all involved
Yes, great video, thanks. So simple and so real. Everything is connected. The big and small reflect each other. Science and God are exactly the same thing. The only difference to us is how we look at it.
Pantheism.
No, science and God are not the same thing. One is real.
What god? Can you please define this God? And what evidence do you have for this God? Please ask this God to make an appearance so we can tell if it's real.
@@benjamindover5676 yes, the fiist source and center of everything. And there have been and still are personifications on earth. The thing is, we get to choose our belief and trust. Nothing is forced on us in the spirit reality. You have chosen to dislike and distrust the evidence. So, for you none of it is real. Your choice.
@@julieisthatart "The thing is, we get to choose our belief and trust."
Well,, you didn't answer my question. Probably because your god is not real and you have zero evidence for it.
Also,, A wise person can't choose what to believe.
I can only believe what the evidence shows.
And because you didn't define what god you are talking about,, I can only take a stab in the dark and guess the god of the bible.
The bible is very clear that there is not god-given free will.
According to the bible god is all-powerful, all-knowing, the creator of the universe who made all the rules and has perfect knowledge of the future. No one comes to Jesus unless the Father draws them first (John 6:44). Makes all the rules, Exodus 24:12>13. Made the flaws in people, Psalm 139:12, Can do anything, Mark 10:27. Knows the future, Isaiah 46:9>10.
According to the bible this god knew everything and is 100% responsible for the hurt, pain, and evil in the world. He wants it that way.
That is why even if the god of the bible was true, I would not worship him.
Would you like some more bible study
on free will? I have about 100 verses that will prove my point.
Unpredictability is the beauty of this universe. Very well presented, thank you!
Thank you. Incredibly well done. 🥰🥰
00:57:12 up till 00:57:42 is just so beautifully put. 😍🤩This is where the creator is. Amazing! Beautiful.
"How do cells that are identical at the beginning know that they are to become skin, for example?" This is actually not so puzzling when you consider that the future development of a cell also depends on its environment. Separating a cell from its environment does not make sense. A cell in the center of a cell agglomeration has a different environment (see epigenetics) and it is influenced by it etc.
I think many pseudo-questions do not arise if one can think in a differentiated way and pays attention to essential differences. We often do this little for economic reasons. Some of us don't think much about longer-term consequences of our current actions. Some do more, but their view is also limited. Evolution allows such "short-sightedness" temporarily but not forever. If a correction succeeds, then we are "lucky".
Excellent. The idea that the behavior of a cell is determined by its position w.r.t other cells is exactly what came to mind when watching that part of the documentary.
"Evolution allows such "short-sightedness" temporarily but not forever."
What? 3.5 Billion years is not long enough for you? Evolution works just fine without you understanding it. Just look around you.
@@benjamindover5676 You completely misunderstood my comment. My fault. I should have said: Evolution allows the "short-sightedness" of our intelligence temporarily but not forever. I mean our short-sighted intelligence has the potential of killing our species.
Thank you. Was thinking just that when I found your comment. I have had similar thoughts about schools of fish. People often talk about a fishes environment as being in the ocean but its environment is in the school (depending on species, I have cod in mind as there has been some good study done on them). So dropping a few fish in the ocean is not necessarily putting them into their environment. And the school as an entity is more than just its individuals and could be older than any of the fish.
Profession Jim is one of the best presenters out there
This is one of the best science documentaries that I have seen in a long time, and I do watch many each day. Thank you for such a fantastic production.
Another 'wow' episode by prof Jim.
@ 3:15 - he's referring to The Fibonnacci Sequence, also known as "the Golden Ratio", a "3-4-5 triangle", represented by the Greek letter phi. It is this VISIBLE, QUANTIFIABLE MATHEMATICAL CONTROL that keeps chaos in check among living things. It reveals itself throughout nature, in some inorganic ways, but primarily in things that ARE ALREADY ORGANIC AND ALIVE TO BEGIN WITH. This control existing in the manner it does is the reason Turing's morphogenesis hypothesis doesn't hold water as it pertains to "life spontaneously forming out of the primordial soup" . The fibonnacci sequence proves there is an intelligent design component to the physical aspects of the universe. This is observable and quantifiable, not hypothetical. I don't presume to know what this intelligent designer might be, more and more I'm becoming convinced we exist in a simulation of some sort. That said, if we observe applied, not theoretical, mathematical ORDER in organic creation, it would stand to reason that there would be an observable applied CHAOS in opposition to it.
re: "The fibonnacci sequence proves there is an intelligent design component to the physical aspects of the universe."
It doesn't prove anything at all. That's your personal bias because you want it to be so.
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Good luck proving your claims.
It's alot easier to say I don't know and you don't either.
@@DataWaveTaGo it's already been mathematically proven by people a hell of a lot smarter than you or me. I don't have any bias on the subject,. Id be willing to bet YOU do, however.
@@A-non-theist your bias is what causes you to lead with an ad Hominem and follow with a non-sequitur. See my previous comment.
@@Foundry_made Assertions doesn't prove anything. Just because you believe something doesn't mean it's true.
End of conversation. Have a wonderful day or night.
Yet again Jim does it good... Really fantastic doc... I look forward to showing my daughter when she gets here..
Turing's great contribution to the United Kingdom's war efforts SHOULD have been rewarded by a professorship and a named life chair of his choice in any Mathematics department in any college in the Kingdom, plus a Knighthood (or even an Earldom). Instead, he was persecuted and eventually hounded into suicide. This was the gratitude that his country showed him for his magnificent service.
How times have changed hey...
That may be true. How have you been made better by it? Holding a grudge against the UK isn't any help to anyone who must live in the UK. You need to forgive and understand the time when this took place. The time you're in now is no different. If you manage to live another 20 or 30 years, you will see that. If you tell yourself the truth then, you will see how you were "complicit" in the injustices we are perpetrating this very day. Life is messy and often not fair.
Wow - if I could give this a hundred thumbs up, I absolutely would - wonderful work - thankyou!
One of my coworkers introduced me to chaos theory in 1990 in relation to climate change. Sadly I didn't understand the full significance of what he shared until I saw this documentary.
This documentary depicts chaos theory is a very negative light; but when I came across chaos theory, I was absolutely fascinated by it. For start we know that there is infinite possibilities in terms of what can happen, endless fun, strange affects that chaos can have on things, the weirdness of it fascinated me so much. I never realized how negative people were towards it at the time. Maybe because of how it was explained in such a fascinating way, it made me see mostly the positive side to chaos; and I definitely fully understood it.
That was frickin amazing!!...I knew some of this..... but not all of it!!...He just brought it all together and I am so grateful. Another piece of the jigsaw in place...thank you so much
Brilliantly presented!
Wow what great gathering of information and production for it all. That was very captivating.
I wish someone had explained this in 1970 when I was building predictive models that kept giving stupid answers. I attended many lectures on chaos theory and tried to build random into observed models and it rarely gave a 'logical' answer when used in predictions.These models were run on crude computers and pencil and paper.
This idea actually came out in popular form in the mid-70s.
lol whatever, genius
it's like the old cliche.
"Because we stand on the shoulders of giants."
Simplicity by repeating itself creates complicity. I like that.
Jim Al-Khalili is a great teacher.
ดีใจที่มีคนทางเดียวกันอยู่ตรงนี้ สิ่งนี้เป็นความรู้ที่ควรหมั่นศึกษาไปด้วยกัน ผู้มีความเข้าใจรอบด้านทั่วโลกเพื่อแสดงผลเป็นไปทางบวกทางสร้างสรรค์ทางที่ข่วยทำให้โลกคงอยู่สืบไปเป็นหน้าที่ของทุกคน ขอบคุณที่มีรายการเช่นนี้เกิดขึ้น
This has to be one of the most eye-opening scientific documentaries in the world!
Ikr, been trying to get more people to watch this for like ten years. There wasnt any HD upload like this one, surely this will get removed soon 😢
An astonishing programme about an astonishing subject. 10/10.
This may be the single most important presentation a human being can watch/absorb. So wonderful!
The complexity lives within the simplicity's rules. The simplicity's rules includes all the complexities which means all the evolving in the branches of the tree but for having a tree you still need to plant the seed, the seed or planting of the seed is simplicity. Plants will produce the seed for another same type of plant which means complexity=evolving in a loop=return to simplicity. The oscillation of it is the speed of the forming of this loop/cycle.
Humans are the same, we derive from a simple embryo to become a complex human body. When we die we don't turn back into embryo but our body produces the embryo while we are alive. Which means our body evolves into one pattern and our off spring evolve into another pattern.
You're right on ; no need to bother about chaos, things keep evolving, for example ; You don't need to redo a plastic surgery and get back your original look if you regret the results of the first surgery, you just have to do another surgery to make it look better.
You're right on ; non thinking matter can create complex things. When apply this to humans, it's just like an artist or writer, their ideas don't come from thinking, their ideas first came from feeling. Hence, we see animal senses are much more accurate than human yet they are not intelligent beings.
Oh my gosh, you make humans seem as if we are capable of love!
Thank You!
This documentary is giving me an existential crisis. It is amazing that cells can become different to such a degree. I also think of Touring’s intelligence and I feel like an ant, Harvard and all.
@Ali Al-Mahdi Don't worry, your dreams are quite ordinary stuff.
@@GOGO2482 Try cutting back on the magic mushrooms by at least one handful.
Otherwise, your dreams make perfect sense. If you're not a shaman, you are in the wrong line of work. And that pee you drank.... was mine. You're welcome. Full-on loaded with Amanita Muscaria. I thought the labeling was funny at the time. Keep on drinking pee and dreaming Dr. Yemen.
there's no shame in humility ❤
@Ali Al-Mahdi Your comment made me laugh. 🙂.
@Ali Al-Mahdi those are Some dreams you are having
Thank you for this enlightening video.❤
I've seen those colors shapes and patterns before on a journey to a place in the universe .
Good times good times
Same here, though the last time I saw them was the late 80's.
Good times, Good times.
You don’t need to travel anywhere.
The entire universe is embedded in your brain.
Anyway, who wants to be stuck in a huge queue waiting to check-in on the intergalactic express, and then get seated next to some obese time-traveller ?
@@jamesdean1143 I can drink 2 cups of ayahuasca and beat the spaceship n get shot up into the universe in a second . I guess that makes me a time traveler. Just got to have a spew due to travel sickness
@@jamesdean1143 Jabba the Hutts misses
I saw Jim. I watched. I subscribed.
Amazing documentary..tks Prof Jim.. really some food for thought for those that think this universe was designed by a Creator.
Does it? I was already confortable with idea of random events on a time scale without any interferance. This video kind of shows that this is not random and starting rules have effects.
That's crazy thought to think that this universe randomly came to existence by itself.
@@thunderstorm4074 You must be talking about the bible. It's on page one.
Sir, my life gets a solid direction after seeing your awesome video 👏💐🙏
The mycelium from mushrooms under our feet branch off as well in self similarity 🌱🌷🌎☀️💙
Another incredible doc from Jim and his team. Greetings from Canada!
Profoundly fascinating. Wel done. Thank you for the thought-provoking work in this doc. 👀🇺🇸🌎
Excellent documentaries. Thank you once again.
This took us to places we didn't expect,or could not have even predicted.
@Brad Watson How sad,, go away.
This documentary is a cornerstone in my understanding of the universe in the same way that Carl Sagan's Cosmos was for me in the 80"s. I was already aware of the Mandelbrot Set but I hadn't connected it with intelligence and awareness.
Miracle and Magic have the same meaning of being the unexplainable or understandable occurrence. Both words describing our mental capability which is limited by our current knowledge.
Well, that explains a lot. If intelligence is founded on chaos, then this explains why people cannot think straight but only chaotic. But it doesn't explain why there are some people (a few at least) who can think straight at least once in a while. So there must be some other force/thing/whatever that effects intelligence.
Of course I write this before watching the video. It more fun this way.
I wonder if using the most powerful computers, and the right conditions if they could come up with different computer generated life forms such as those based on silicon. But could you do this accurately without the outside pressers like microbes, or predators.
It would be amazing to see the results.
What an excellent, elegant and informative piece of work. Profound respect and gratitude for Professor Al-Khalili and his colleagues. Glory to the Grand Architecture of the Universe:.
I'm Catholic. I think I've watched this six times. I think the premise is atheistic/ materiism...but this is well presented in a respectful way. Fascinating...
It is science! irrespective to our faith we should accept it. Being "Atheist Hindu=hindu but not believing in god, believe in karma and natural justice". Find new way towards God, for someone's more discovere about science and evolution.
This isn't about atheism or deism. It's about science. It's about thinking about things from base principals and investigating empirically. No assumptions one way or another about the existence of gods need to be made or are relevant to the endeavour, any more than the existence of, say, unicorns.
@lairdinho what about order truth intelligibility? Natural philosophy assumes the world is intelligible. Science in the way you put it is metaphysics...what is..you have to assume the scientific agent is rational and able to derive something true from observation. The agency of the scientist precludes science. Sorry dude...science has its assumptions..substitute unicorn with scientist.
@@jMerkyJJ That's pure gibberish. You don't have to assume anything about the scientist or his / her rationality. You only have to worry about the science itself. Parse / analyse the science. The veracity of 𝝅r² or E = mc² are not dependent on the characteristics, rationality or otherwise of any scientist or any metaphysical assumption. You suffering under the weight of some very silly stone age superstitions. You no more need to include notions of sky gods to consider 𝝅r² than you do the content of this documentary. If you can explain why notions of theisms or atheism are required to consider the merits of 𝝅r² as it pertains to defining the area of a circle, then you'd be on to something. But you can't and won't because in fact what you are dealing in is stone age superstition and magical thinking and it's totally irrelevant to the subject of this documentary.
Thank you for great contribution; and not to forget the repeatings in (political) history of mankind.
I feel like this episode explains our life in a nutshell. by our free will of choices in life, we can alter the what was Pre-Determined lives of our future.
There is no pre-determined life…and no free will. Free will is an illusion.
If we (humans) are a feedback loop than a small change in behavior can bring about a great change in our condition overtime
me too as soon as i see its him click im there for the rest of the program .for years now he has a way that help you understand the most complicated concepts .....
While we often hear the retort that we believe in the "God of the Gaps" who explains the things that Science hasn't figured out yet, we can answer that atheists put their unreasoning faith in the assumption that human science can eventually answer every possible question about Life, the Universe and Everything.
Today (actually almost 50 years ago), we hear about how Chaos theory explains how simple systems of nearly identical moving parts can develop complexity "all on their own." It's a wonderful progress for math and science. But this is supposed to explain how life began on our planet? How silly! You haven't even begun to dig deep enough. All you have done is to create an implicit "straw man" argument, in order to debunk your own childish imagination. "We don't need a Creator." Really?
You have constructed an image of a paper tiger God. How often do you think God has to come down and personally intervene in the machinery of his creation? Can't He create something that will work correctly without breaking down? Do you want Him to interfere with your life on a daily basis, making things happen so that you will be forced to acknowledge His Presence? No? I didn't think so. But that's not his preferred mode of operation. He doesn't force Himself on anyone.
So then, why do you think that God has to keep stirring the pot in order to make his creation develop as intended? God seems to appreciate the idea of planning things out in detail, setting things in motion, and then stepping back to watch how it goes. Indeed, the theorem of Occam's Razor sounds like one of his guiding principles. He wants to keep it simple, elegant, but simple. One of the more enlightened speculations about God was to imagine that He is an infinite Cosmic Watchmaker, who built the world like a clock, wound it up and set it to run by itself. And so it does, mostly.
God created the first life on the Earth, and guided it toward the creation of the kinds of beings He wants to populate the planet. It doesn't take a lot of interference to do that. Although we might question a few of his methods, I'm sure that none of us could come up with better ones that insure that He can remain hidden behind the scenes. Remember, when He reveals Himself, He is demanding that you must believe in Him, so that has to wait.
So maybe nature doesn't need an active, busily interfering creator to design complexity. You still have not shown that it doesn't need God. You may have pushed Him back to the beginning, simply to reveal Him as the Lawmaker, or as I already said, the Watchmaker. You did, however, demonstrate the need for simple rules. So where do those rules come from? Again, it's like the Big Bang theory. Where do the rules that make the Universe as we know it come from? Not from trial and error, or it would never succeed.
Granted, you can get some degree of complexity from undifferentiated simplicity, but you still can't explain how that becomes information, and then, how information becomes message, and how message becomes instruction, and step by step until eventually, you get illumination and purpose. The need for intention is clear.
Without an initial input from an amazingly intelligent designer, you may get sand dunes, but you'll never get Socrates. The levels upon levels of complexity, leading up to consciousness, intelligence, freedom of choice, and finally to purposeful planning, just can't come from random processes. It began from the intention of a Great Mind. And in the last few minutes of the video, you had to admit it. However, there is no difference between needing a "really clever designer" for a "grand simulation" (57:10 ff) and recognizing the God who created the Universe.
The sticking point is, perhaps, that your simulation "designer" does not make any particular moral demands on his "Nominal Player Characters," while God expects his favorite creatures to attempt to emulate his goodness. Refusing to believe in God is just a way to say that you don't want to hear Him asking you to behave properly.
Exactly
Wow. Thank you for this enlightening documentary.❤
Brilliant. But no process, even fractal and mathematical rules cannot generate information.
The Mandelbrot set contains patterns, as do crystals made of minerals.
The simplest cells which resemble those to-day are based on matter specifically organized by data. The storage of data as base pairs of DNA is both digital and the densest form of encoding ever discovered.
The mathematical calculations which underpin analysis of living systems takes the math behind the 3 body problem and turns it into a trillion body problem.
Data is encoded as a discrete function in a string written and read in "time-wise fashion."
In even the simplest living cell, the quantity of data is truly unimaginable. All the stored data in your body as DNA, stretched out and stitched together, would reattach from the surface of the Earth to the Sun and back 30 times. And every nanometer is either packaged shut, temporarily closed off, or open and available for being read and acted upon.
The switching mechanisms responsible for the qualities and function of each cell, whether the simplest bacterium, to you, are also impossible for one human to visualize.
The appearance that life is simple, and even evolution is simple, and can actually be described by mathematical equations and basic overarching concepts was apparent to Turing and Darwin.
But, like a passenger's viewpoint of a jet aircraft, whose flight characteristics can be treated mathematically without regards generally to choice of hull material or inner workings of the pilot's control switches or the passenger's entertainment choices, the airliner is simple: pay money, walk in, strap in, unstrap with landing, Deborah at a new destination.
Overarching principles of physics like volume and temperature regulation do shape life.
But something deep, a much greater mystery, goes unmentioned: if random processes never create digitally encoded information, what did which?
And, if 3 million " bits" are required to specify both genes and operating system functions in the simplest life forms, how?
The better question, which scientific thought refuses to touch, like a high voltage power line, is, Who?
And, what can we deduce accurately from our discoveries must be the nature of this "Who?"
An interesting, smart response, acknowledging these findings, while seemingly being generally aware of what we do know.
Ending with what's presented as the ultimate question, with not a hint of an answer, leaves likes of me to venture a response, that at least beginning with 'what its most likely not'.
That can be generally defined as nothing relating to human spun religion, back when the sun went round the earth, along with 5 planets, all that being the creation of something warranting the title of creator, while initiating some JC character, who was, and some claim still is, 'son of G'.
I think me expanding on one of those R myths, all others warrant similar discredit.
Me concluding I'm a natural atheist, refusing to get up or Sunday school aged 10, knowing my parents wouldn't force me.
I do recall, actually decades later, becoming aware of the term atheist, which game me one simple word I could identify as.
So, I'm content not to define, or even believe in any who, since I have no idea and nor does anyone else. But with the gaps in god of the . . keep narrowing, it contents me to learn of chaos as identified here and consider it along with the idea we may be but an element of a multiverse, I think legitimately adding even more chaos, I'm personally content to muddle along as part of.
@@eddieheron1939 the truth is that some Intelligence created life, usually updated it by using "natural means" such as a virus bringing in the precisely matching data and O. S. But usually any random event could never produce caterpillar to butterfly changes, etc..
If you examine all of this, and observe ongoing evidence of intervention, but then find evidence for a "Spiritual reality" as well, then religion is like a science in that, not testable ( thank you, Creator!) but historical and experiential evidence is there.
This JC character: the Buddha produced no miracles ( and, yes, they still occur!) But here comes someone making impossible claims, is tortured and put to death in a manner that no amount of "mistaken for dead" was possible.
Soon after, the disciples were transformed into bold people willingly martyred, with the myth-making process of
@@eddieheron1939 I know what I and others have seen. "No one knows" is not true. And teaching children there is nothing Transcendent does not hold them accountable for what is damaging to all history, called "sin" or, " missing the mark." Even Dawkins admitted the value of faith, felt she a me at scoring points against apologists when he knew he was being intellectually dishonest.
As I see it, humans will worship a person ior they will worship a Person. But only radical grace and the law of love restrains most followers, where any "Ism" does not.
The natural human scientific response to the spectral lines of hydrogen cry out for "How???" Multiverses fail, because the sheer number are staggering, and still beg the question- can a multiverse act intelligently at the level observed?
@@eddieheron1939 what can be deduced about this Superintelligence?
Maybe there are 2 levels of Being, both being Creators, (they) have no requirement to be found within their Creation, any more than Steve Jobs could be expected to be found within any Apple product, or Shakespeare needn't have appeared in any play he wrote (if he did).
First: power beyond our grasp, to create spacetime so its properties force the >16 fundamental particles/processes to have limits and specificity to their interactions.
Intelligence, foresight, grasp of how things must fit together to work to achieve a necessary set of actions for life, ecosystems, maintenence of Earth's biosphere.
Intervention: no clock-maker here, set it and let it go. Consider caterpillar to moth, (and moth to butterfly as far as the nanostructures which refract light into colors) asexual leaf eater to sexual pollen eater. Vast new sections of operating system and new proteins are needed for the transformation while keeping it alive.
Humor: the absurdity of life forms, sexual habits, us humans...
The long view : evil, being the destruction of what is beautiful, good, non-destructive, is part of a self-regulating system, one where evolution can occur.
Tenderness: what constituts he care of the innocent by mothers and fathers.
Revelation:Hints of something beyond the material : dreams, NDE's, awareness.
across vast distances of events, etc.
A grasp of beauty: simply consider all that is beautiful.
I think those are the basics...
Thankyou! You've finally described the underlying most basic force of the universe - to tend to ever increasing beauty & complexity. *Emergence* of Order, from it's cousin Chaos. Love it. 💜
"Surprise me, Holy Void!"
This documentary is so random.
Like the innumerable religious sects.
9:30. Does the wind organise the sand or the sand grains self- organize ? Both are mutually exclusive: if the wind organizes , then sand grains cannot self- organize and vice versa. This is the first problem.
The second problem is how the causal chain is initiated - in the order of precedence which comes first, is it the wind or the self-organizing nature of the sand grains? If it is wind , what makes air to change into wind ? If it is the sand grains, what is the source of origin of its organizing ability ?