Bo Burnham | Reflecting On His Problematic Material
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- Опубліковано 19 сер 2021
- Bo Burnham reflects on his older material which, for the most part, was in poor taste
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Bo: Isn't anybody gonna hold me accountable?
Also Bo: Fine, I'll do it myself
Yeah, I think comedians get a exception as they make jokes
No @@xxdrsomexx
"Can we also allow (young) people to live and fail and learn?"
Yes, 💯% this. Exactly. 👍👏👏
Society: "No."
@@itsmeaiden8788 Right? So sad.
The only thing that is being learned now is propaganda from Tumblr
@@skoop651wtf lol, you think Tumblr is the main source of propagandizing the youth? Not Tik Tok, reddit, youtube, mainstream media.. school? Gtfoh
some of you need to realize if bo himself realized he fucked up, you don’t need to come to his defense. he’s said many times comedians shouldn’t get defensive about their past jokes if they don’t hold up, and he’s also said how he doesn’t need people to defend him.
Yes but teenagers spamming his videos, making stuff up and editing his content to remove the obviously satirical parts, attacking other fans, telling them to kill themselves (especially when an editor in the fandom DID just kill themselves) also isnt ok. It’s good to discuss and address his past work and be honest about it but most of the Gen Z I see are not concerned with any kind of conversation or accountability. They just want to use it as an excuse to bully.
@@crycrywolf what
@@nightorchid5031 there’s an aggressive campaign against him right now. And kids are using it as an excuse to bully other people and tell them to k*ll themselves (for being a fan of a “nazi”).
(NOTE: this isn’t to be confused with actual legitimate calling out / holding people accountable. That is a different thing. I’m talking about the performative way some people do this)
We can totally have a conversation about his work, and some of the issues with edgy satirical comedy in general, but the whole conversation is rendered useless when it’s being led by kids who don’t actually understand that people change.
@@crycrywolf Oh dear god
I dont know what to say, 'cause I agree with what youre saying about it. gyewiok
@@crycrywolf oh ffs, here we go again with the Saturday morning cartoon villain woke bogeyman.
I love how reflective he is about it. It’s always strange when people insist he hasn’t apologized or addressed his stuff.
I think more than any other performer with past edgy material he’s been the most reflective and humble about it.
Yeah! Honestly, it's really refreshing because he could've very easily gone the other way, but he instead grew more empathetic.
@@cheeselueese6947 YES. This. He’s just become more thoughtful and empathetic and it really is refreshing.
As a major consumer of stand up comedy for the past 25 years....I agree 💯
It's crazy how Bo a guy in his mid20s back then understood cancel culture and comedy on the non political correctness side like 5 years before it became what it is now, he is great understanding that both sides have their lows
bo's growing up, and for the better.
I'm just replying so you can see how much likes you got
Finally a comedian that doesn't cry about cancel culture when they get criticised
I love it.
Other comedians will be bitching about cancel culture and Robert is just like, "Git good scrub."
It sucks that despite all of the times he admits that his old material was problematic and apologizing about it, a lot of people still think that he’s racist and homophobic and say that he “never took action” to change 🥴
HONESTLY. People can change, otherwise what’s the purpose of calling someone out? It’s really sad that there’s people that really think NO ONE can improve. What a terrible way to live life.
Who says that
@@jamesusher-jones5556 honestly? Mainly just young kids on tiktok but they are loud sometimes.
@@crycrywolf I mean you make a excellent point. Everyone wants to call people out, but to what end? Logically it would be in hopes that they would learn and improve, but so often it seems that when people try to do that, they continue to get backlash and are called insincere for publicly reflecting. The intentions make sense but the execution is a MESS.
I'm happy he's learned from his mistakes.
Me too. He's grown over it and I feel like he's done the right thing.
Zoo we mama
there were no mistakes though. but whatever if he made any im glad he learned from them if he did?
What did he do wrong?
@@xxdrsomexx a lot of his old jokes were offensive
And he's really fucking sorry.
PS: Did you hear about the new Bo news? He's quit the LA Lakers HBO thing due to 'scheduling conflicts'.
Wait what's that about???
@@francisss3418 he had a role as Larry Bird on a HBO show, and it was announced In march. All we know the troubles about is scheduling conflicts, from an inside source. They've already got someone else as well which hurts.
@@somethingnotcatchy ohh I've heard that news now that kinda sucks to hear what bo's doing right now since he has schedule conflicts?
Wait that’s such a bummer! I hope there’s not more to it.
He’s actually SUCH a good actor (he killed it in promising young woman) so I hope he does more stuff.
i absolutely love the way he just speaks about stuff. he's so good at using the time he's given to share properly. and i enjoy listening !!
He's problematic
He's a problem
*ROAR*
Did you know that when he was 17 on Halloween he dressed up as Aladdin???
We need to talk about the fact that the guy in the second clip looks like someone tried to draw Stephen Colbert from memory.
"Make Colbert a 20 year widow"
I do like Bo's opening up to saying his old material is dated & doing that on his own terms, but more oft-than-not terminally online people who actively look for old shit as a way to scold celebrities & hold careers hostage are the most sanctimonious dickheads. Work on yourself before trying to work on others.
Always self-reflective. Which is insane considering that his offensive stuff was also mixed in with this self-reflective material in his early days.
I love how he can take mistakes and learn from them, unlike other people who joke about it and deny it.
Also the same sweater from how the world works 4:17
Omg the sweater I didn't notice it 🧍
Do we all remember being around that age and singing all those songs and loving them? We would get so happy to watch more of his stuff.
I actually really like this clip. I have a very love/hate relationship with jokes that are ironically bigoted. I mean I do feel like these mindsets should be made fun of and laughed at wherever possible (and I'd say a grand majority of Bo's material, even as a teenager, had this intention and 0:22 starts with him admitting that) but the major problem with being ironically bigoted is simple, the true bigots are too fucking stupid to get the joke.
5:58 “it’s not funny!”
*audience laughs*
Thank you for this compilation!
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Bo Burnham is probably the only comedian who will look back at everything he's said and really takes real accountability for it, rather than either complaining when someone cancels him, or just never talking about him.
It would've been interesting to see him play larry bird
It's kinda sad that his past still haunts him today I hope he's better now
P.S Damn Inside is such a masterpiece though even if it decreases his sanity and made him more depressed and thinks he still haven't changed 14 years ago.
I think it held his sanity from getting to the ground actually
Extroverts being inside and not being able to talk and perform to people can feel pretty exausted
@@isaacgaleao bo is introverted
@@jjooee6699 well, he works with a lot of fast association (as you can see by his jokes in interviews ou replies to hecklers) and he feels the need to recharge his energy by performing and talking to other people, so even if he is more of an introvert, I can understand if being alone for so long is equally exausting for him
@@isaacgaleao i mean, he's an introvert but as he said he's addicted to attention. it's not really the same thing as being extroverted
@@flop1014 I actually think he is an extrovert with social anxiety from what I've seen, but as I said, even if he is more of an introvert, my point still stands
And people say he never apologised
could you do a compilation of what he has said about political correctness? he's addressed it many times, there's the interview with CBS news, the last part of the hollywood reporter writer's roundtable, interview with TCNJ, to name a few. (of course only if you want and are able to! i just think it's in a similar vein to this video and gives a good perspective about his thoughts on PCness in art/comedy)
Am I the only one that is okay with the older stuff and feels that, while yes, some of it is "insensitive", the point is that it brings attention to these terrible things allowing you to actually want to learn about these terrible things and how/why they were wrong. Sorry but having someone lecture me versus having someone make me laugh to learn the same lesson, I'll take the laughter.
Yeah i mean his stuff is very clearly satire. There’s a great video that breaks it down. But still he seems really to value peoples emotions and wants to be mindful as he gets older and tastes change.
ua-cam.com/video/Np3qzjiaa-E/v-deo.html
that's nice but it actually hurt people who were a part of those groups too so let's not dismiss their feelings
@@mellyonthebeat If you can't make comedy that hurts anyone's feelings at all then you can't have comedy. I'm not saying dismiss people's feelings, I'm saying that equality in the form of making fun of anything is good, because if you say literally ANYTHING is okay to make fun of but something else isn't, you are prejudice by definition. You won't find me reading someone's book about how their life was worse because of "X" reason, and these are things about their life and why they had these problems. Frankly, that is boring so I'm not interesting in learning about it that way. I will, however, gladly watch something I actually find entertaining that also draws attention to problems, enlightening me about them so I can understand the suffering others go through. The ability to use my free time for something both educational and enjoyable is quite optimal.
@@Hyde472 did you watch his special? There’s a scene in the song Comedy that literally breaks this down. You may have overlooked it because you lack any sense of attention to detail.
You can be funny without being offensive, and if you can’t, maybe you aren’t that funny
@@mellyonthebeat Tell me a single joke I can't find a group to find offensive and I'll concede this point to you.
He seems like a genuine dude, who just wants to be that and maybe feels an obligation to use his platform to be thoughtful, reflectful and humbling an ego. Dude rode a new wave and was not a flash in the pan but probably one of the few from that era who moved into being a legitimate artist, and a real person which is what the discovery of these viral stars initially captivated
Majority of tik tok hasn't seen this video. I bet
Forgot “Problematic” from inside. ;)
That’s a song mocking apologies that people who are “cancelled” release, thought. It’s not a real apology
@@xxbennyboygamerxx no it's a real apology, how was that not clear... he literally addresses himself and said "I started doing comedy when I was just a sheltered kid, I wrote offensive shit, and I said it" as well as "I tried to hide behind my childhood and that's not okay, my actions are my own I won't explain them away"
@@simone-44 he uses that as a platform for the song as something to get the song going, as he goes on apologizing for miniscule stuff and then continuing on to ignore the main problem at hand.
@@xxbennyboygamerxx why would he create a "platform" for a song, and he's not apologising for "minuscule stuff" are you kidding? he's literally singing about how comedy for a 16 year old in 2006 is drastically different than nowadays, what used to be funny isn't anymore and he admits it, not only that but he thinks he should be held accountable and there are so many deeper meanings, just go look at Genius's review of the song lyrics, they talk all about it on there
@@xxbennyboygamerxx wrong
Genuine question: Was any of Bo’s early comedy truly hurtful? I mean there were things that were just unnecessary to say like his use of F****t, and then the objectifying sexual songs making fun of objectifying sexual songs that in the end just became more objectification sometimes, but I’m not sure I’ve seen any early material that’s truly hurtful? Edgy and unfunny yes, but hurtful and offensive?
Genuinely asking, I don’t know his earliest material that well.
He said a lot of racist stuff in his song “cookout”. It was from the perspective of a character he wrote, but it could still come off as hurtful or offensive
@@Monika-jy2ok true - the Mexican line seemed a bit… off. But almost all of that song is fine in the context of mocking the KKK. The Helen Keller song I think might be the most potentially hurtful? I feel it’s missing a lot of context that makes his other material work just fine.
It’s harmful if you intentionally ignore it was satire. Which kids have been doing and spreading. It does sound bad out of context.
Some of it was also a bit edgy to be shocking, however it almost all was meant and understood to be tongue in cheek / satirical / the opposite of what he really thought. This video is really great exploring his work as satire: ua-cam.com/video/Np3qzjiaa-E/v-deo.html
I actually thought he had a lot of nuance when he was a teenager and was really clever. He talks about My Whole Family more in detail in an NPR interview tho and about why he doesn’t jive with it now.
Yes, normalization is still harmful, anything except explicitly condemning bad shit is fuel that helps that bad shit
@@hithere7080 Nonsense, satire is condemning something, just because people are too stupid to understand it doesnt mean it is bad, stop trying to reduce humanity down to the moronic dregs you confuse the subject of a joke with the target.
It's sad he feels he has to say these things. Sad culture these days.
i’m so glad he is sincere about his past and holds himself accountable 🥺 we stan
✨ he‘s a probleeem~ ✨
Legend
man, even when bo himself says that he's embarrassed by his earlier songs i still love them and i'll keep on loving them. they are offensive, sure, but that's what makes them so amazing tbh. i'm a big fan of dark comedy and bo is one of those people that handle it just great. haters gonna hate, some people will try to cancel him, but offensive bo is the bo i'll love forever
“Haters gonna hate, lovers gonna love. You need to reject both sides of the spectrum to leave a healthy middle.”
Yes because offensive automatically means it’s amazing
@@idatecig i didn't say that..? i said that he handles dark comedy very well and that's why i like it
Yeah this video is a great breakdown of that and why his stuff works and isn’t just offensive to be offensive: ua-cam.com/video/Np3qzjiaa-E/v-deo.html
@@Ismael-kc3ry THATS WHAT I THOUGHT WHEN THEY SAIS HATERS GONNA HATE HBDHJEKL
What problematic material is he talking about? Even from the beginning, he joked on everyone equally. And none of those jokes came out of hatred, even the old ones. I feel like there’s some heavy over exaggeration going on in these interviews.
Society finds his old content distasteful.
The kids on tiktok and Twitter found his youtube videos and watched his old specials. And have deemed it unacceptable. He’s currently being “cancelled” over: making jokes, mocking racists, saying the f-slur, being “racist”, being a “nazi”, and being sexist. lol
@@JimboMarsh You're posting this in a video in which he says *he* finds that content distasteful, but apparently him having agency of his own bugs you.
hes said slurs dozens of times
@@bsasmritskindatrashy2848 I know. But like I said, it was always in a joking manner and none of those jokes were intended to be hateful.
Thanks for this, but please can you list your sources in the description? Cheers
Just added them!
@@MusicalComedy thank you so much. Love the content ❣️
Im really happy he apologized, i accept his apology(of the fslur, im gay) and i think his apology is real. Not only that but that was years ago and he was a kid.
How does 3:30 square with the fact that he’s deleted videos? And it’s interesting how even in this compilation there’s so few specific examples given of horrible stuff he’s said that he feels bad about.
I think he means that he didn’t delete all of them because he does admit to deleting a video at the end. I guess some stuff is just too awful.
Well the purpose of these videos was promoting eighth grade and his past stuff just happened to come up I’m sure he didn’t wanna derail the convo.
But also was pretty much forced to delete some of his old stuff recently because kids were spamming his videos and attacking people who were commenting. And also kids were (and still are) harassing his fans and saying he still supports all his old material because “if he was actually sorry he would have deleted it.” So he can’t win honestly.
Frankly……I love all of Bo’s material, I don’t think he’s flopped in any of his comedy although he’s explored different directions…but I really don’t like that he distances himself from his old material this way. I don’t think he made his edgy jokes out of cruelty or hatred for anyone, and I think that his 2006/7 audience didn’t come away with that impression either. Take for example klan kookout and his Helen Keller song- both were on his channel, both are gone now. They’re both absolutely drenched in shock value and I guess edgy humor, but I’m perplexed as to why they’re so awful that he has to distance himself from them to the point of deleting them. It should be obvious to anyone with two brain cells that klan kookout for example is a SATIRE, he’s mocking the people who’s at the kinds of things he’s saying in the song. I think as our society has soaked in social media we’ve lost the ability to understand or grapple with satire and now it seems that a song like that is offensive more because of the devolution of our ability to appreciate satire rather than it “not being funny” and something to be ashamed of.
@@jacksonturner242 I absolutely agree and I think anyone with half a brain knows that and thats why his audience has always been fairly diverse. All my friends who are queer are big fans of his, including myself. We can definitely tell when we can trust someone (and this video does a great job of explaining how he gains that trust with his audience: ua-cam.com/video/Np3qzjiaa-E/v-deo.html). His stuff honestly wasn’t any more shocking than something you’d see on South Park or Family Guy.
However, there’s a tiktok video with 6 million views insisting klan cookout was in fact completely just bo singing about being racist. “Dressed up like a slave owner recently??” And “I heard he compared black peoples faces to a high school track???” was left on several of his official videos, and most of them have things calling him a Nazi or a racist or a homophobe. Just sort by new comments. Just today I’ve seen at least a dozen tweets saying he’s a literal Nazi and a member of the klan. Right before he deleted Klan Cookout there was some really intense fighting in the comments and I hope he wasn’t the one personally reading that shit.
I know cancel culture is LARGELY just an exaggeration from people not wanting to be held accountable however it can’t be understated the campaign that’s going on right now (a friend of mine was told to slit her throat because she got a Bo tattoo, we reported the comment but still….). A family member who is barely online even commented on it and asked me if it was true “the guy who made Inside” was a racist because she kept seeing that everywhere.
I don’t think this is why Bo was distancing himself from his old material (these videos are all old) but the problem is there’s no room for nuance in popular culture right now. And I think hes about to have some very real career consequences unfortunately. I wouldn’t be surprised if that’s why he got dropped from HBO’s new show and I’m kind of worried Sesame Street will drop him too (he wrote all of the music for the upcoming movie).
@@crycrywolf wow…..all of that is completely new to me. I’m not on tiktok (and never have been on Twitter either for that matter) and I guess that’s why. I guess it’s also tougher if you “grew up” online like Bo did, as someone who has to be aware constantly of how he’s perceived because of his contents origin. As far as the cancel culture stuff goes I think it’s a mixed bag and I can’t help but feel like Bo’s own behavior in distancing himself from his old material and his own political leanings are likely to shield him in ways that would not if he stood by his old material and dismissed the sensitivity and eggshell sensibilities of younger people. Honestly……I feel like the truth lies somewhere in the middle. Idk- with no awareness of what you’ve talked about in your last comment I guess I’m just out of the loop but that’s gotta be so frustrating.
i guess he’s really fucking sorry
Its a good video but i am missing the sources. Thank you for this memorable 6:18 seconds.
Oh shoot sorry! I’ll link them now
@@MusicalComedy Thank you mate!
I’m kinda disappointed by this I loved his old shit and yeah I love his new shit more or at least as much but am I problematic because I like his old stuff lmao
Only people getting offended by his stuff from 2006 are the ones born in 2006. Trying to cancel Friends and Seinfield because it's problematic twenty years later.
@@Spyracik Exactly!! There's no permission for irony and satire anymore which he's talked about himself but it's still ridiculous
2021, comics are apologizing
Is this actually from 2021? Posted archives have to have the original air date
Most clips are from 2018 in this compilation
so bo dig it up yourself and and find out first hand if anything changed
Is his old work even that offensive
ehhh kinda. it’s not that bad but definitely some people take offense to it.
I'm so confused on which of his old songs are problematic >.> I've tried to find them but none of them seemed bad, perhaps he's just holding himself to an impossible standard. I guess I just find them innocuous given the context of being made in 2008, if it did get pointed out to me I'm sure I'd find it silly to worry about anyways
TL;DR he’s problematic
Tbh I feel like he’s a bit too hard on himself
Your right. And you know what, you have to be to “survive” any joke that may have offended something as a content creator nowadays which is, incredibly sad and dumb
Bo really isn't a comedian he is a theater kid with hateful agenda
I am so surprised by this. Bo’s old content was hilarious, intelligent, and fit well in the time. The fact that he has any shame whatsoever over this breaks my heart for him. He is truly talented and awesome and has NOTHING to apologize for imo.
I mean, I'm all for Bo, but to say that he has NOTHING to apologize for? Nah, he should still apologize for his racist/edgy jokes
@@gr33ntheory21No. He should not apologize.
Ah so i've see that you've been on twitter and tiktok
I mean. These interviews are all from like 2-4 years ago.
@@crycrywolf oh i meant on tiktok people are requesting links to his apology and it would be a hassle to link multiple videos to his multiple apologizes which is why i assume was the reason this compilation was made.
@@heyy8074 oh super true. That makes sense to have it in one place with one link. Ironically the reason it’s all spread out is he’s never done one big notesapp apology or a “holding myself accountable” video where he like cries. He’s just addressed it whenever applicable.
@@heyy8074 the NPR fresh air interview also another good interview. It specially talks about my whole family. bo refuses to even listen to it when they play it (he takes off his headphones). He also admits he wasn’t sure he WAS straight when he wrote it - which certainly changes the tone of that song snd makes it a bit funnier.
What bad stuff, Bo you are perfect. I still love your other songs
he’s not perfect and that’s ok. it’s ok to admit your mistakes.
@@grapejuicerry1982 what mistakes?
@@mancube7645 Stop defending Bo for stuff that he doesn't want to represent him anymore. You aren't helping anybody.
@@OT3S asking what everyone is talking about, is ASKING not defending. I asked, no one has answered me. If you don't know say you don't know as well. Xem fusteki
@@OT3S I'm not helping. Did I come to help?🤷🏾♀️
Comedy is comedy, don’t censor yourself
Against my own beliefs, I find myself unable to comment on your work with the same tone I may have commented on similar attempts in the past from other individuals. You have NOTHING to apologize for, you have NOTHING to be embraced from. DO NOT REGRET what you came out with. You can embrace who you are now without the need to put shame on who you were. You are a true artist and as every true artist, your work may or may not understand by the general public. But behind your jokes and your unique personality, there is so much more to hear if people would just listen to! And I ensure you that many peoples life choices directly or indirectly has been influenced by your art at the point where they have been able to make the right one.
Here at 31,967 views.
I have a friend who refuses to believe that his stuff is satire and genuinely still thinks he's racist and homophobic. I tried to explain it to her, but I don't wanna, like, screw things up, yknow?
search “is satire dead? edgelords versus bo burnham” it’s a great video that very clearly explains what satire is. and uses examples to contrast it with actual bigoted humor. the creator is a queer poc too so perhaps your friend will be more willing to listen to their perspective.
I really really dislike him. Surprisingly rude. His entire self aware schtick is an act.
His old shit is still funny.
Bo, please don't apologise. Your early work was just as brilliant as anything you do now.
honestly, that's just not true
It is, and please let me have this opinion.
It’s brilliant when it comes to word play and structure, but hasn’t aged well at all
@@littletvrant No worries. It still will.
@@anjaurbanc6353 It still will what? Age well? Obviously not, otherwise he wouldn’t be apologizing. Some of his old stuff used sexism, racism, and homophobia to back his jokes, which isn’t really great.
Do
He's basically apologizing for being white
I love the cishet white people in these comments being like “nah his stuff wasn’t that bad!” like, dude
So happy to see how much Bo has grown throughout his career, it’s incredible and so refreshing to find a celebrity that actually values people over their own reputation
you described it perfectly
You're the problem
What is a chiset?
@@porter2719 cis = cisgender, someone who identifies as the gender they were assigned at birth. basically means not trans. het = heterosexual. cishet is just a shorthand way of saying “someone who isn’t lgbtq”
I would like to know what he thinks was bad. Because comedians are meant to push the boundaries and should never feel ashamed of doing so. If people are such pussies they can’t take a joke then that’s their problem not the comedians.
I think some of his older stuff pushed the boundaries a bit. But it’s pretty bizarre to come after comedians tho about their past work because humor just changes so much. But I think he’s just moved away from that kind of humor (but still, teens on tiktok and Twitter are on a warpath right now calling him racist. “Bo burnham racist” is a top search 🙃)
@@crycrywolf Well said
y'all are fucking weird. bo himself says they were bad and he is ashamed, wtf are you trying to defend?
Ok, but, he doesn't actually apologize to the groups he offended; just regrets out loud how embarrassing his past behaviors are to him then extols the virtues of him being an "example"... Bo, bud, you are just being an example of how to not think about people you are talking about before you talk about them, then doing it again....then doing it again....then doing it again. sigh.
no, he should apologize. he was being disgusting
Comedy shouldn't ever be called 'problematic'.
Comedy is comedy. Nothing's off-bound.
(Except for my mother, don't you DARE involve my mother! Sincerely, Rob)
Dude. The things he said weren’t “problematic” because people didn’t know him. He is covering for something that I don’t know if he needs too.
"No comedians are being thrown in jail". Haha not for lack of trying eh Britain?
but it was funny tho? if you are offended by it just dont watch him, its that simple.
His old stuff is funny. They are jokes. Get over it
Yed
He shouldn't have to apologize. You shouldn't stop finding things funny just because of the Tumblr migration
He downplays the consequences of Cancel culture too much. Comedy films basically don’t exist now. Lives and careers have been ruined. We haven’t progressed we’ve regressed. In 20 years edgy jokes will be all the rage again.
Lol, this is kinda of cringe. Imagine apologizing for offensive humor as if its the same as murdering a guy. 😂
of course you're a man
Yeah no wonder why he’s not funny