I’m super glad this man exist ,,,he knows what he is talking about,,he knows the 6.4 is a good truck and over all I enjoy listening to him because I know I’m getting REAL information,,THANK YOU Tom Busch for giving me and many others a peace of mind
Heat, friction and excessive stress are the motors killers. I've had Dodges, Duramaxes and Powerstrokes all blow up on me. It's always because of poor maintenance or abuse. There are just a handful of the 7.3's left in the market. It stands to reason that they have survived because they were cared for. That's why you see the 7.3 success stories. There are many thousands of the 6.4s still on the road.
I am looking to buy my first diesel truck. It's a 2008 6.4l and until I watched your video I was getting ready to walk away. You made me feel better about this possible purchase and not scared to buy this truck. Thank you sir
If you are not a mechanic I would have the truck checked out by a qualified shop. It’s still a 13 year old truck. If truck checks out I would suggest that you keep yourself informed. Check out “diesel tech Ron” UA-cam channel. That’s a great place to start.
Thank you so much for a legitimate straight forward video with some real knowledge. too many people out there do buy these trucks and try to use them as race cars. not to mention they do not have the budget or concern to care and maintain the vehicle properly. I've been considering buying a 6.4l to use for towing a 25 foot camper. no serious load but I do want to be able to haul a bigger load. so many naysayers out there. why don't they just say I bought a beat up vehicle and beat it to death more.
Great video sir, I really appreciate your honesty regarding these 6.4 liter powerstroke. I just purchased one and change all of the filters to motorcraft and run rotella synthetic oil in it, I really like my truck and plan to keep it for a while
Thanks for the video, Tom. I have a 2008 F450 with a big Lance camper. I installed a remote coolant filter, remote oil filter and have a remote fuel filter, but am afraid to cut a fuel line. I will see if my diesel mechanic will do it. I had the DPF and EGR deletes done and a spartan dash daq installed. I installed the 210 tune. Truck runs really well and tows well. I was glad to hear you say the 6.4 will go 500K miles. I have been really nervous after hearing so many sad stories. I am 76, can't afford another truck.
Your truck has two fuel filters. They work very well if they're changed every 10K miles and you check your fuel quality once a month. Your truck must scream with those mods. If you go to the powerstrokehelp youtube site you'll find a couple of good videos about coolant and how to maintain your cooling system.
Thanks for the advice. I just bought one about 6 months ago. I have been doing the maintenance. But, now I have a little more to do. Like the little drain off of the fuel. Thank you. The dpf is next.
Spot on. I have a 2010 and have always taken good care of it. Oil, oil and fuel filters every 3-5k miles with only motorcraft products. Did the deletes and tunes at 50k. Big difference in attitude but still baby it except for a once in awhile fun moment or just need to throttle it because... Only thing I’ve done is front calipers, flushed the brake fluid and changed the lower engine to radiator hose. Runs like a champ. I’m hoping to get 250k + out of it.
I appreciate the video I bought a 2010 completely deleted and tuned it was deleted after the warranty ran out it's been a great truck the 6.4 good engine
@@hilljackzack7284 we got an 09 with over 205k and runs perfect 👍,,you take care of it ,it will take care of you,, deleted 63k and is stronger than eny 6.7
@@ictdpowerstroke4591 I’m looking for an f350 non dually right now with the 6.0 in it for towing cars because man I tell ya what these powerstrokes are underrated! Also the 6.4’s are still out of my price range at the moment, that’s why I’m looking at 6.0’s.
I know that I am late to the party, but what a great video. Thanks for the input, these are not kids pickups. They require diligence and management. I've found with my 2008 that with those two things, these truly are long term pickups.
This is the first video I've seen where someone doesn't bash the 6.4. They have problems but they can be good trucks. You're right about the DPF delete, but with that you should do a full EGR delete because just the DPF delete can use the EGR coolers to explode.
You’re right. But I’ve been lucky with the EGRs. If you do mostly city driving an EGR delete is a good idea. I’m way out in West Texas. Lots of highway miles. Thanks for chiming in!!
YES! 1 hr for 30 miles. It will end up being your average speed if you calculate it out. Brings you to about 150 hrs for every service, which is "normal" for most engines. 90-200 hrs is what I see on equipment for required service interval.
Awesome and honest review. Appreciate all ur advice. Bought my 6.4 a year and half ago and finally I fixed the p401 as the previous owner put a block plate at end of egr cooler to exhaust. I just use the green powder to shine clean the cooler. Truck ran happier w about 17 mpg, 3 mpg better than before. And it passed the ca smog test. It came w a tuner, truck was broken in last year and tuner got stolen. I think ca won’t allow for pdf delete. The truck was originally from Arizona.
Excellent video! You mentioned things that I couldn't agree more about how people drive trucks wrong and then complain about being junk. I'm about to look at a 2009 f350 dually with the 6.4 in it and wanted to know what people were saying about them. The truck I'm looking at has 92k on it and is in excellent. I condition. I wouldn't of known about checking the hours so thank you for that. Also wondered about the def system on them and heard it causes problems and you eased my mind about that also because that's something I'd want to do to it (the only thing) right away. Does 25k sound like a good price to you on that with it having low miles and in really good condition (no rust or dent/dings?
I have an 08 F-250, 4x4, long bed, crew cab, Lariat with only 75K original miles. No major service ever. Oil changed regular, trans fluid changed every 20K, fuel filter changed regularly. In the next week, it will have a cab off bulletproofing. New up pipes, full EGR and DPF deletes. Truck should be immortal.
There is a UA-cam site that I visit regularly. Diesel Tech Ron. Ron died in a tragic accident a few years back but his son has kept his video catalog on line. HIGHLY recommended.
"if properly maintained" is the key statement here. I'd say 80% of all powerstroke owners don't do this. So in my opinion, the quality of the engine is based off how long it can last without being maintained because 8/10 it will not be.
nick that’s a horse shit comment. I have 3 of these currently, all purchased used private party with 100,000- 120,000 miles. Currently lowest mileage is 387,000 miles with the highest sitting at 540,000. All run 5-7 days a week pulling roofing dump trailers. 10,000lb trailers with 10,000-15,000 in tear off in them. Driven all over Portland metro area and all surrounding cities. EVERY ONE OF THEM HAVE BEEN GREAT TRUCKS AND PROPERLY MAINTAINED FROM BEGINNING TO NOW. Mine is used for work and personal, driven by every member of my 7 person family daily. Alternators, radiators and turbos is all that’s been replaced or rebuilt. You don’t know shit about these trucks.
I also deleted all of them soon as I bought them and added Spartan tuners. Not that they needed the extra power as I have them on the 125hp tunes. It was because of the regen BS. These trucks are SOLID
Great video. Appreciate the confirmation on how to take care of these trucks. I have a 2010 F250 PSD. I purchased it with 72k miles on it and it now has 103k miles. Was able to go through the entire service record with the service director. It had never had any issues. I deleted the DPF soon after and am running the mildest tune possible (Torque Technologies T1 tuner: Mild Tune 80hp) that deletes the DPF and disables the EGR coolers. I still need to take the EGR coolers out. Does the cat eventually clog as well? I might as well and straight pipe that too. I run the Archoil fuel and oil additives and follow the severe duty maintenance schedule. Motorcraft oil filters/oil every 5k and Motorcraft fuel filters every 10k. Haven't had any issues. I tend to drive it like an 18 wheeler as well...no fast takeoffs...no rolling coal on purpose...etc. I hope it doesn't give me any issues. It kind of scares me because working on these costs so much. Thanks again.
I've never had a problem with the catalytic converters. But I suppose there's always a first time. It sounds to me like you are doing everything possible to make this truck run a long time. I don't do exotic stuff to these trucks but I love hearing from customers that do and hear the results they get. I am not a mechanic. I am a wrench turner at best. I send all of these trucks to my shop and they go through them bumper to bumper to make sure they are good machines. I do the final quality control. All of my opinions are based on real life experience and having bought, reconditioned and sold hundreds of these trucks. I'm always learning though and I love hearing from customers. Thanks for your response. Google Selkcomm.
I agree that Ford suspension is high but every person that drives a super duty knows with heavy loads these things sag we owned both f250 and a 2500HD Duramax that long suspension on Ford is better off road vs Chevy's is very stiff way better with very heavy load also how many leaf springs they have Chevy's has a lot and very thick leaf springs both are nice trucks just how well you maintain them I plan to buy an f250 for work if I need to do heavy loads I'll just add more leaf springs
The truck I’m looking at getting just had new turbos and a new transmission put into it at 120k miles. I think this was because he used to race it sometimes and that caused excessive wear and tear. It is egr and dpf deleted too. Should i be worried about anything going wrong soon after i buy it. It has 147k miles now
After watching your video last week I decided to buy a used 2008 f250 powerstroke. The truck was already deleted and the blow by isn't too bad. Only issue is trans is leaking and the aftermarket programmer wasn't included. I'm getting a deeper Tran pan installed and probably the trans rebuilt as well but what programmer do you recommend? I don't want to keep running this unkonwn file
I've used just about all of them. H&S makes a good one. I personally like the gear box one because it's cheap. They're all pretty good right now. It depends on what you're trying to accomplish. I go for the cheap ones because all I'm concerned with is defeating the regeneration process.
I have a 2008 6.4 the only issues ive had with it are some minor cooling issues ( o rings, upper radiator hose, thermostats) but i have never overheated the truck it has amazing power i have done all my deletes the only complaint i have with it is i get poor fuel mileage (12mpg) my truck is lifted but i figured doing my deletes it would have at least put me somewhere around 14 or 15 mpg . The truck is tuned by kem performance in monticello,ga nothing crazy just a 150hp boost if anyone knows how to increase fuel mileage other than what i have already done please let me know thanks
Stuuubbs From playstation the DPF delete should cure the poor fuel mileage. Big tires and suspension will affect your mileage. Also a street tune is best for fuel economy.
150 hp tune is a pretty significant boost. Like he says in the video do not drive it like a race car. These six fours are notorious for melting pistons when they are abused on Tunes
I just brought a Ford f250 with the 6.4. Had never heard of all the negative claims about this truck until after I purchased it. I like the truck. Is it legal to do this delete method?
It is illegal for a dealer or repair shop to tamper with emissions assemblies. State inspections vary from county to country for emissions. El Paso County test for safety only on trucks. It’s best to check with a local inspection facility for the local laws.
@@SELKCOMM I looked up at used car dealer that has 2008 Ford F-350 CC Lariat long bed 6.4L diesel 4WD SRW 293k miles. I noticed the truck has EGR deleted and cold air intake. I forgot to check if it has DPF deleted or not. The dealer is in Alabama which has no emissions law. I check carfax and reported the truck is one owner and originally from Louisiana. I guess dealer bought from auction. Tomorrow I will go to dealer lot to check the exhaust system. I’m thinking about buy it this week. Please respond back ASAP. Thanks.
@@RebelBama Have the truck inspected by a mechanic you trust. I have two high mile trucks that I use as service trucks. They both have over 200K miles but I have maintained them well and they're good trucks. The problem with high mile trucks is that it's not just the motor that has high miles. The whole truck has high miles. I would be very cautious and do my due diligence.
@@SELKCOMM I am former Dodge service technician. I know some about Cummins. I work on few of them, mainly all Dodge vehicles and jeeps. I did work powerstroke for one year at small shop (mostly 7.3 and 6.9) before found Dodge dealerships open hiring. Ok back to this 2008 F-350 I look up. I went there again and check underneath. Yes it is DPF and cat converter deleted. So this truck is fully deleted and I believe it already reprogram also I notice this scanner left on OBDII. I look at it. It is labeled Mirco Mechanic scanner. I look up what it’s for. Just check codes thur iPhone.
Check for DTCs and I’m assuming the check engine light is on. If it displays a code for a fuel rail pressure sensor it is most likely the high pressure fuel pump and it needs to be replaced. It’s not an easy fix. Take it to a mechanic you trust and have him do the diagnostics.
Hey Tom, I have an 08 F250 6.4 truck with a blown engine. I love the truck and I've been looking for a good replacement with low mileage for months now. Do you ever deal in engines?
Gary Morris It’s funny. The DPF actually produces more pollution and particulates that it was supposed to stop. They all clog up at some point. The regen process destroys the motor and they consume way more fuel. Seems like Ford is trying to look green. Nothing could be further from the truth.
Thanks for that. I’m old. I’ve been in the car business for fifty years. What appears to me to be common sense is brand new to some folks. I’m grateful to help.
I get what your saying and everything BUT it doesn’t matter how you take care of an engine, if it’s reliable than it’s reliable. The same amount people who thrashed 7.3s and 6.7s also thrashed 6.4s. But both the 7.3 and 6.7 are miles ahead of the 6.4. It’s not a coincidence lol 😂 sure take care of it it’ll last, but that goes for any engine ever!!!
Funny you should mention the 7.3. I worked for Ford for many years. I was there when they introduced the 6.9. They were a disaster and source of many lawsuits. I was there when the 7.3 was introduced in the early 90s and the first iterations were awful. By 2002 close to two million 7.3s were produced and the last three years of production are the ones you see on the road because the engineers had finally worked all the bugs out. They had almost ten years to address the points of failure and adapt. Also, it stands to reason that the 7.3s that are still on the road are the ones that have been meticulously maintained. The 6.0s and 6.4s have design flaws that can be easily overcome. The 6.7 is a good motor. It’s been in production for ten years. That’s a long run for a platform. A new 6.7 4X4 F250 Supercab XL runs over $60,000.
What would you consider a “cheap reliable” tuner for a DPF/EGR delete I just want a dependable diesel truck not trying to make it a performance vehicle or anything thanks
Alexander Wilson Thanks for calling last night. I hope my advice helped. There are a lot of good tuners available at a good price now. The technology has improved dramatically.
Just got a 6.4 the other day. The truck runs great and I want to keep it that way, it still has all the emissions control devices. What is a safe tuner you recommend that won’t advance timing? Thanks
Asp 1227 If it has the stock emission control devices and you intend to keep it that way you don’t need a tuner. I would recommend getting rid of the DPF in which case a cheap H&S tuner that defeats the regeneration process will be fine.
@@ictdpowerstroke4591 I’ve been sick for the past five years so I’ve been out of the game. I’m getting better now and expect to back in about six months. 50 years in the car biz. Can’t stop now. Thanks for your comments
Looking at a 08 f250 6.4 has 120k miles and rust free(I’m from Minnesota) truck is from Texas! Dpf is delete and has very little blow by! I drive a duramax with 250k on it and I’d like a newer truck with lower miles! Would your recommend a 6.4?
Sorry for not replying sooner. Check the engine hours. The ratio should be somewhere around one hour per thirty miles. Maintenance is everything on these trucks so its important to have it checked out for known issues. If the truck has been maintained it will last a long time. Also, do a coolant flush right away. That's the service that most people ignore. And use the proper coolant.
Quick question, I’m buying an 08 with only 80,000 miles on it, I already have a tuner on the way from his old 6.4 and If I delete the regeneration process from the computer, do I have to delete the EGR part of the exhaust? I live in upstate NY and the yearly inspections I need to have require me to have a DPF system.
Tristin Sundquist The DPF is easy to swap out. Just keep it available for your inspections. I’ve personally never had an issue with EGR. As long as it’s in good operating condition I’d leave it alone. Do a coolant flush and use the recommended ford coolant. VERY IMPORTANT. Fresh oil, fresh trans fluid, fresh transfer case fluid, fresh diff fluid, fresh Ford fuel filters. Should last a long times. Best wishes.
So I check my miles to engine hour ratio and I'm about 100 hours over, is that something I need to be concerned with also I just bought this truck and it's basically all stock and only has 64,268 miles on it about 2248 hours. I plan on driving it a few days a week and hauling and towing when I need to. Also do I need to worry about deleting the egr and dpf systems right away or could I leave it alone until they develop problems or is it too late then? Just curious thanks in advance.
The 30 miles per engine hour is a rule of thumb. Close counts. You don't need to worry about the DPF and EGR but you need to at the very least do a DPF delete and get a simple tuner at some point. The regen process will eventually kill your engine. I personally have never had a problem with the EGR system but I know it's a known problem. You also should do a coolant system flush with the recommended coolant and chemicals. The oil coolers on all of the diesel engines have a tendency to fail if you don't do scheduled maintenance.
Thanks for the reply boss I really appreciate it, I have the service records from the truck I think I'll go through it and look for the last time it was flushed and if it's been a while or I can't see it I'll do it right away same with my fuel filters
@@SELKCOMM you can get one with 138k miles for 26.000$ but they will come stocked so you may need to do deletes ,,not hard at all just takes a couple days if you do the egr delete as well
Yep, take care of the girl, delete the dpf and the 6.4 should last quite a while. Also don't be them dipshit kids that put a 300hp tuner on it. (It wasn't designed to run that way) keep it stock.
Matt Read Yes. I was pretty sick last year and I’m just now getting back into business. I should be posting new inventory in a month or two. Thanks for your interest.
Look for crankcase blow by at operating temperature and engine codes. POO88 generally indicates a fuel pressure control valve issue. That's will require a high pressure fuel pump. It's expensive. I just listed a 2009 F-550 diesel 4X4 with 67K miles on eBay. It's a cab and chassis long frame.
SHINEYLOE'Z CERTIFIED TOWING sunny although they are a good truck. The 6.4 was designed as a throw away motor. Your gonna spend a lot of money to repair or replace that motor. I recently traded my 6.4 in because of the $$$ to repair it.
Brandon Hoover it’s not so much the pistons. Or the pushrods or rockers or the cavitation in the water pump. It’s the combination of it all. If anyone was smart and deleted these right off the hop maybe will have a good one that will reach some serious high mileage. But most have had the excess heat damage and stress it creates. As well as the shortfalls in design. You wonder why it was discontinued after a few years in the ford lineups.
NintendoLord85 Funny. I have a few 7.3s in stock right now. They are bullet proof. I agree. But my favorite motor is the 6.0 if set up properly. Followed closely by the 6.4. NOTHING outruns a 6.4 if it’s set up right. And I’ve sold hundreds of them. The Cummins is a great motor if you don’t mind replacing turbos every now and then.
@@powerstrokeguy7150 I know a guy who got a 6.4 and it’s got over a million miles,,,it’s his work truck ,,he doesn’t purposely try to break it ,,he does normal Maintenance on it and it last for him
Border patrol and customs and police vehicles look nice but have a shit load of hours since these guys don't do shit but just facebook all day in their cars with the ac on especially in the hot southwest.
Fresh fluids and filters are important. Change the transmission filter inside of the transmission pan if your fluid is dirty. Do a coolant flush an replace your coolant with the ford recommended anti-freeze.
it dosent really matter how much you take care of a 6.4 you will have to be ready to pull the heads and freshen up the fuel system anytime after 200k. Navistar used metal on metal type valve guides on the 6.4 heads to save money and they basically get worn out no matter how much preventive maintenance you do on these trucks.
I’m super glad this man exist ,,,he knows what he is talking about,,he knows the 6.4 is a good truck and over all I enjoy listening to him because I know I’m getting REAL information,,THANK YOU Tom Busch for giving me and many others a peace of mind
My thoughts exactly! People dont know how to drive these diesels and then call them junk when they blow something up on them lol.
@larrycarlton8023 I know it lol ,I guess they'll be responsible next time .
Heat, friction and excessive stress are the motors killers. I've had Dodges, Duramaxes and Powerstrokes all blow up on me. It's always because of poor maintenance or abuse. There are just a handful of the 7.3's left in the market. It stands to reason that they have survived because they were cared for. That's why you see the 7.3 success stories. There are many thousands of the 6.4s still on the road.
There are NO good 6.4 !!!
I am looking to buy my first diesel truck. It's a 2008 6.4l and until I watched your video I was getting ready to walk away. You made me feel better about this possible purchase and not scared to buy this truck. Thank you sir
If you are not a mechanic I would have the truck checked out by a qualified shop. It’s still a 13 year old truck. If truck checks out I would suggest that you keep yourself informed. Check out “diesel tech Ron” UA-cam channel. That’s a great place to start.
Thanks again for this video and taking my call today. Your experience with the 6.4’s just saved me thousands of dollars!
Undoneman Thanks for calling!
Thank you Tom for giving me a mature opinion, I see the 6.4 in a lot of government vehicles here in Oregon too
Great advice. Diesels aren't cheap. Don't treat them like they are. Keep up on the fluids.
Thank you I feel better I have a 6.4 08
Thank you so much for a legitimate straight forward video with some real knowledge. too many people out there do buy these trucks and try to use them as race cars. not to mention they do not have the budget or concern to care and maintain the vehicle properly. I've been considering buying a 6.4l to use for towing a 25 foot camper. no serious load but I do want to be able to haul a bigger load. so many naysayers out there. why don't they just say I bought a beat up vehicle and beat it to death more.
Great video sir, I really appreciate your honesty regarding these 6.4 liter powerstroke. I just purchased one and change all of the filters to motorcraft and run rotella synthetic oil in it, I really like my truck and plan to keep it for a while
I prefer the XL plain trucks,, with vinyl floors, crank windows. As long as it has cruise and a/c.
Take care, be safe, and have fun regardless.
I had a lot of fun with these trucks.
Same my 6.4 is XL with vinyl and crank windows,,there my favorite model
Thanks for the video, Tom. I have a 2008 F450 with a big Lance camper. I installed a remote coolant filter, remote oil filter and have a remote fuel filter, but am afraid to cut a fuel line. I will see if my diesel mechanic will do it. I had the DPF and EGR deletes done and a spartan dash daq installed. I installed the 210 tune. Truck runs really well and tows well. I was glad to hear you say the 6.4 will go 500K miles. I have been really nervous after hearing so many sad stories. I am 76, can't afford another truck.
Your truck has two fuel filters. They work very well if they're changed every 10K miles and you check your fuel quality once a month. Your truck must scream with those mods. If you go to the powerstrokehelp youtube site you'll find a couple of good videos about coolant and how to maintain your cooling system.
My brothers 6.4 has 800,000
Thanks for the advice. I just bought one about 6 months ago. I have been doing the maintenance. But, now I have a little more to do. Like the little drain off of the fuel. Thank you. The dpf is next.
Spot on. I have a 2010 and have always taken good care of it. Oil, oil and fuel filters every 3-5k miles with only motorcraft products. Did the deletes and tunes at 50k. Big difference in attitude but still baby it except for a once in awhile fun moment or just need to throttle it because...
Only thing I’ve done is front calipers, flushed the brake fluid and changed the lower engine to radiator hose. Runs like a champ. I’m hoping to get 250k + out of it.
Dan Sommerfeld Coolant flush and change is important too. I should have mentioned that in the video.
I appreciate the video I bought a 2010 completely deleted and tuned it was deleted after the warranty ran out it's been a great truck the 6.4 good engine
Still been good to you?
Yep still going strong
@@olewillyfrank they are very good engines
Great video! I have 2008 6.4L and it has been a great truck, despite all the problems you hear about on the net
I have a 08 with a 6.4 136000 on it . its been a great truck. people beat the crap out of them then say what a piece of crap they are.
wild chet yea just take care of it mine has 209k miles
@@wildchet4874 my dad used to beat on his and got 800,000 miles out of it then sold it. Ahh what a great truck it was.
@@hilljackzack7284 we got an 09 with over 205k and runs perfect 👍,,you take care of it ,it will take care of you,, deleted 63k and is stronger than eny 6.7
@@ictdpowerstroke4591 I’m looking for an f350 non dually right now with the 6.0 in it for towing cars because man I tell ya what these powerstrokes are underrated! Also the 6.4’s are still out of my price range at the moment, that’s why I’m looking at 6.0’s.
I know that I am late to the party, but what a great video. Thanks for the input, these are not kids pickups. They require diligence and management. I've found with my 2008 that with those two things, these truly are long term pickups.
I have an ‘08 6.4L and have zero complaints. Key is proper and regular maintenance.
Aaron Wilson frequent coolant changes help too. Thanks for your input.
This is the first video I've seen where someone doesn't bash the 6.4. They have problems but they can be good trucks. You're right about the DPF delete, but with that you should do a full EGR delete because just the DPF delete can use the EGR coolers to explode.
You’re right. But I’ve been lucky with the EGRs. If you do mostly city driving an EGR delete is a good idea. I’m way out in West Texas. Lots of highway miles. Thanks for chiming in!!
Correct,,I definitely agree,,I did a full egr and dpf delete,,it runs like a charm
How does it cause it to explode?
YES! 1 hr for 30 miles. It will end up being your average speed if you calculate it out. Brings you to about 150 hrs for every service, which is "normal" for most engines. 90-200 hrs is what I see on equipment for required service interval.
Awesome and honest review. Appreciate all ur advice. Bought my 6.4 a year and half ago and finally I fixed the p401 as the previous owner put a block plate at end of egr cooler to exhaust. I just use the green powder to shine clean the cooler. Truck ran happier w about 17 mpg, 3 mpg better than before. And it passed the ca smog test. It came w a tuner, truck was broken in last year and tuner got stolen. I think ca won’t allow for pdf delete. The truck was originally from Arizona.
Excellent video! You mentioned things that I couldn't agree more about how people drive trucks wrong and then complain about being junk. I'm about to look at a 2009 f350 dually with the 6.4 in it and wanted to know what people were saying about them. The truck I'm looking at has 92k on it and is in excellent. I condition. I wouldn't of known about checking the hours so thank you for that. Also wondered about the def system on them and heard it causes problems and you eased my mind about that also because that's something I'd want to do to it (the only thing) right away. Does 25k sound like a good price to you on that with it having low miles and in really good condition (no rust or dent/dings?
@@larrycarlton8023 it sounds like a great truck. $20,000 would be at the top of the market. $15,000 would be a good buy
I have an 08 F-250, 4x4, long bed, crew cab, Lariat with only 75K original miles. No major service ever. Oil changed regular, trans fluid changed every 20K, fuel filter changed regularly.
In the next week, it will have a cab off bulletproofing. New up pipes, full EGR and DPF deletes. Truck should be immortal.
Sounds great!! Good luck!!
Finally a intelligent video
There is a UA-cam site that I visit regularly. Diesel Tech Ron. Ron died in a tragic accident a few years back but his son has kept his video catalog on line. HIGHLY recommended.
Thanks Tom, very informative and to the point!
Mark Pingleton you’re welcome. Thank you for your kind words.
"if properly maintained" is the key statement here. I'd say 80% of all powerstroke owners don't do this. So in my opinion, the quality of the engine is based off how long it can last without being maintained because 8/10 it will not be.
nick Thanks for your input. You nailed it. None of these trucks will tolerate abuse.
nick that’s a horse shit comment. I have 3 of these currently, all purchased used private party with 100,000- 120,000 miles. Currently lowest mileage is 387,000 miles with the highest sitting at 540,000. All run 5-7 days a week pulling roofing dump trailers. 10,000lb trailers with 10,000-15,000 in tear off in them. Driven all over Portland metro area and all surrounding cities. EVERY ONE OF THEM HAVE BEEN GREAT TRUCKS AND PROPERLY MAINTAINED FROM BEGINNING TO NOW. Mine is used for work and personal, driven by every member of my 7 person family daily. Alternators, radiators and turbos is all that’s been replaced or rebuilt. You don’t know shit about these trucks.
I also deleted all of them soon as I bought them and added Spartan tuners. Not that they needed the extra power as I have them on the 125hp tunes. It was because of the regen BS. These trucks are SOLID
Great video. Appreciate the confirmation on how to take care of these trucks. I have a 2010 F250 PSD. I purchased it with 72k miles on it and it now has 103k miles. Was able to go through the entire service record with the service director. It had never had any issues. I deleted the DPF soon after and am running the mildest tune possible (Torque Technologies T1 tuner: Mild Tune 80hp) that deletes the DPF and disables the EGR coolers. I still need to take the EGR coolers out. Does the cat eventually clog as well? I might as well and straight pipe that too. I run the Archoil fuel and oil additives and follow the severe duty maintenance schedule. Motorcraft oil filters/oil every 5k and Motorcraft fuel filters every 10k. Haven't had any issues. I tend to drive it like an 18 wheeler as well...no fast takeoffs...no rolling coal on purpose...etc. I hope it doesn't give me any issues. It kind of scares me because working on these costs so much. Thanks again.
I've never had a problem with the catalytic converters. But I suppose there's always a first time. It sounds to me like you are doing everything possible to make this truck run a long time. I don't do exotic stuff to these trucks but I love hearing from customers that do and hear the results they get. I am not a mechanic. I am a wrench turner at best. I send all of these trucks to my shop and they go through them bumper to bumper to make sure they are good machines. I do the final quality control. All of my opinions are based on real life experience and having bought, reconditioned and sold hundreds of these trucks. I'm always learning though and I love hearing from customers. Thanks for your response. Google Selkcomm.
Is it still running good? How many miles now!
@@j.p.6675 Got rid of the truck at about 125k. Couldn't stand the worry anymore. Back into the gasser world...for now.
I agree that Ford suspension is high but every person that drives a super duty knows with heavy loads these things sag we owned both f250 and a 2500HD Duramax that long suspension on Ford is better off road vs Chevy's is very stiff way better with very heavy load also how many leaf springs they have Chevy's has a lot and very thick leaf springs both are nice trucks just how well you maintain them I plan to buy an f250 for work if I need to do heavy loads I'll just add more leaf springs
The truck I’m looking at getting just had new turbos and a new transmission put into it at 120k miles. I think this was because he used to race it sometimes and that caused excessive wear and tear. It is egr and dpf deleted too. Should i be worried about anything going wrong soon after i buy it. It has 147k miles now
After watching your video last week I decided to buy a used 2008 f250 powerstroke. The truck was already deleted and the blow by isn't too bad. Only issue is trans is leaking and the aftermarket programmer wasn't included. I'm getting a deeper Tran pan installed and probably the trans rebuilt as well but what programmer do you recommend? I don't want to keep running this unkonwn file
I've used just about all of them. H&S makes a good one. I personally like the gear box one because it's cheap. They're all pretty good right now. It depends on what you're trying to accomplish. I go for the cheap ones because all I'm concerned with is defeating the regeneration process.
I have a 2008 6.4 the only issues ive had with it are some minor cooling issues ( o rings, upper radiator hose, thermostats) but i have never overheated the truck it has amazing power i have done all my deletes the only complaint i have with it is i get poor fuel mileage (12mpg) my truck is lifted but i figured doing my deletes it would have at least put me somewhere around 14 or 15 mpg . The truck is tuned by kem performance in monticello,ga nothing crazy just a 150hp boost if anyone knows how to increase fuel mileage other than what i have already done please let me know thanks
Stuuubbs From playstation the DPF delete should cure the poor fuel mileage. Big tires and suspension will affect your mileage. Also a street tune is best for fuel economy.
150 hp tune is a pretty significant boost. Like he says in the video do not drive it like a race car. These six fours are notorious for melting pistons when they are abused on Tunes
@@luigiluigini9500 Truth
I just brought a Ford f250 with the 6.4. Had never heard of all the negative claims about this truck until after I purchased it. I like the truck. Is it legal to do this delete method?
It is illegal for a dealer or repair shop to tamper with emissions assemblies. State inspections vary from county to country for emissions. El Paso County test for safety only on trucks. It’s best to check with a local inspection facility for the local laws.
@@SELKCOMM I looked up at used car dealer that has 2008 Ford F-350 CC Lariat long bed 6.4L diesel 4WD SRW 293k miles. I noticed the truck has EGR deleted and cold air intake. I forgot to check if it has DPF deleted or not. The dealer is in Alabama which has no emissions law. I check carfax and reported the truck is one owner and originally from Louisiana. I guess dealer bought from auction. Tomorrow I will go to dealer lot to check the exhaust system. I’m thinking about buy it this week. Please respond back ASAP. Thanks.
@@RebelBama Have the truck inspected by a mechanic you trust. I have two high mile trucks that I use as service trucks. They both have over 200K miles but I have maintained them well and they're good trucks. The problem with high mile trucks is that it's not just the motor that has high miles. The whole truck has high miles. I would be very cautious and do my due diligence.
@@SELKCOMM I am former Dodge service technician. I know some about Cummins. I work on few of them, mainly all Dodge vehicles and jeeps. I did work powerstroke for one year at small shop (mostly 7.3 and 6.9) before found Dodge dealerships open hiring. Ok back to this 2008 F-350 I look up. I went there again and check underneath. Yes it is DPF and cat converter deleted. So this truck is fully deleted and I believe it already reprogram also I notice this scanner left on OBDII. I look at it. It is labeled Mirco Mechanic scanner. I look up what it’s for. Just check codes thur iPhone.
My truck will not idle. 2008 350 we will be driving down the road and just stops. If it sets it surges.
Check for DTCs and I’m assuming the check engine light is on. If it displays a code for a fuel rail pressure sensor it is most likely the high pressure fuel pump and it needs to be replaced. It’s not an easy fix. Take it to a mechanic you trust and have him do the diagnostics.
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Hey Tom, I have an 08 F250 6.4 truck with a blown engine. I love the truck and I've been looking for a good replacement with low mileage for months now. Do you ever deal in engines?
Doug Veraska I don’t. I use car-part.com when I’m looking for parts.
@@SELKCOMM I'll try them. Thanks.
Don't get rid of the DPF.
Gary Morris Definitely keep the DPF in your garage!
@@SELKCOMM Nope. Don't get caught without it either.
Gary Morris Yep. Not in Texas. But some states yes.
Gary Morris It’s funny. The DPF actually produces more pollution and particulates that it was supposed to stop. They all clog up at some point. The regen process destroys the motor and they consume way more fuel. Seems like Ford is trying to look green. Nothing could be further from the truth.
The dpf does not help the environment at all. It’s a massive scam.
Great video 👍👌
Thanks for that. I’m old. I’ve been in the car business for fifty years. What appears to me to be common sense is brand new to some folks. I’m grateful to help.
I get what your saying and everything BUT it doesn’t matter how you take care of an engine, if it’s reliable than it’s reliable. The same amount people who thrashed 7.3s and 6.7s also thrashed 6.4s. But both the 7.3 and 6.7 are miles ahead of the 6.4. It’s not a coincidence lol 😂 sure take care of it it’ll last, but that goes for any engine ever!!!
Funny you should mention the 7.3. I worked for Ford for many years. I was there when they introduced the 6.9. They were a disaster and source of many lawsuits. I was there when the 7.3 was introduced in the early 90s and the first iterations were awful. By 2002 close to two million 7.3s were produced and the last three years of production are the ones you see on the road because the engineers had finally worked all the bugs out. They had almost ten years to address the points of failure and adapt. Also, it stands to reason that the 7.3s that are still on the road are the ones that have been meticulously maintained. The 6.0s and 6.4s have design flaws that can be easily overcome. The 6.7 is a good motor. It’s been in production for ten years. That’s a long run for a platform. A new 6.7 4X4 F250 Supercab XL runs over $60,000.
What would you consider a “cheap reliable” tuner for a DPF/EGR delete I just want a dependable diesel truck not trying to make it a performance vehicle or anything thanks
Alexander Wilson Thanks for calling last night. I hope my advice helped. There are a lot of good tuners available at a good price now. The technology has improved dramatically.
Gearbox ford 4.0 plus programmer
Just got a 6.4 the other day. The truck runs great and I want to keep it that way, it still has all the emissions control devices. What is a safe tuner you recommend that won’t advance timing? Thanks
Asp 1227 If it has the stock emission control devices and you intend to keep it that way you don’t need a tuner. I would recommend getting rid of the DPF in which case a cheap H&S tuner that defeats the regeneration process will be fine.
Tom Busch thank you sir, I will do that
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Asp 1227 DPF and EGR delete, H&S destroys parts.
Hello I have a 2009 power stroke where is the best place to buy a moter here in el paso
Just Fix it on Doniphan does a good job rebuilding 6.4 motors.
Thanks for your help and keep the 6.4 videos coming 🤙🏻
Will do. As long as I'm upright and taking nourishment.
@@SELKCOMM your giving great info,,great vid
@@ictdpowerstroke4591 I’ve been sick for the past five years so I’ve been out of the game. I’m getting better now and expect to back in about six months. 50 years in the car biz. Can’t stop now. Thanks for your comments
@@SELKCOMM I hope you get to feelin better soon ,,50 years is a mile stone,,hope to have you goin on you 55 year god bless
Looking at a 08 f250 6.4 has 120k miles and rust free(I’m from Minnesota) truck is from Texas! Dpf is delete and has very little blow by! I drive a duramax with 250k on it and I’d like a newer truck with lower miles! Would your recommend a 6.4?
Sorry for not replying sooner. Check the engine hours. The ratio should be somewhere around one hour per thirty miles. Maintenance is everything on these trucks so its important to have it checked out for known issues. If the truck has been maintained it will last a long time. Also, do a coolant flush right away. That's the service that most people ignore. And use the proper coolant.
No. Just get a 2011 6.7 powerstroke. You wont regret it.
Quick question, I’m buying an 08 with only 80,000 miles on it, I already have a tuner on the way from his old 6.4 and If I delete the regeneration process from the computer, do I have to delete the EGR part of the exhaust? I live in upstate NY and the yearly inspections I need to have require me to have a DPF system.
Tristin Sundquist The DPF is easy to swap out. Just keep it available for your inspections. I’ve personally never had an issue with EGR. As long as it’s in good operating condition I’d leave it alone. Do a coolant flush and use the recommended ford coolant. VERY IMPORTANT. Fresh oil, fresh trans fluid, fresh transfer case fluid, fresh diff fluid, fresh Ford fuel filters. Should last a long times. Best wishes.
Tom Busch All right, thank you, I appreciate finding this video.
And I just reread what I typed out, I’m sorry for my terrible grammar
Tristin Sundquist No grammar police here bro.
I’m about to do the same thing. Found an 08 with 78k miles. How has your experience been so far?
Thank you sir
JAIME ERAZO You’re welcome
So I check my miles to engine hour ratio and I'm about 100 hours over, is that something I need to be concerned with also I just bought this truck and it's basically all stock and only has 64,268 miles on it about 2248 hours. I plan on driving it a few days a week and hauling and towing when I need to. Also do I need to worry about deleting the egr and dpf systems right away or could I leave it alone until they develop problems or is it too late then? Just curious thanks in advance.
The 30 miles per engine hour is a rule of thumb. Close counts. You don't need to worry about the DPF and EGR but you need to at the very least do a DPF delete and get a simple tuner at some point. The regen process will eventually kill your engine. I personally have never had a problem with the EGR system but I know it's a known problem. You also should do a coolant system flush with the recommended coolant and chemicals. The oil coolers on all of the diesel engines have a tendency to fail if you don't do scheduled maintenance.
Thanks for the reply boss I really appreciate it, I have the service records from the truck I think I'll go through it and look for the last time it was flushed and if it's been a while or I can't see it I'll do it right away same with my fuel filters
Hey Tom. I have the same truck ,same year. How much do they go for in the U.S??
jim r About $18000 with good miles.
@@SELKCOMM you can get one with 138k miles for 26.000$ but they will come stocked so you may need to do deletes ,,not hard at all just takes a couple days if you do the egr delete as well
These are GREAT trucks.
Yep, take care of the girl, delete the dpf and the 6.4 should last quite a while. Also don't be them dipshit kids that put a 300hp tuner on it. (It wasn't designed to run that way) keep it stock.
Tom are you still selling 6.4’s?
Matt Read Yes. I was pretty sick last year and I’m just now getting back into business. I should be posting new inventory in a month or two. Thanks for your interest.
Is ray liotta selling trucks now?
Alex Biallas I’ve lived in Texas for 35 years now and I still can’t ditch the accent.
so im looking at a 2008 f450 powerstroke 6.4 with 150k but it is clean and i just NEED ADVICE what should i look at its a rollback tow truck
Look for crankcase blow by at operating temperature and engine codes. POO88 generally indicates a fuel pressure control valve issue. That's will require a high pressure fuel pump. It's expensive. I just listed a 2009 F-550 diesel 4X4 with 67K miles on eBay. It's a cab and chassis long frame.
Tom B thanks and you do no what u are talking about dont listen to the loosers on here that say otherwize
SHINEYLOE'Z CERTIFIED TOWING sunny although they are a good truck. The 6.4 was designed as a throw away motor. Your gonna spend a lot of money to repair or replace that motor. I recently traded my 6.4 in because of the $$$ to repair it.
Brandon Hoover it’s not so much the pistons. Or the pushrods or rockers or the cavitation in the water pump. It’s the combination of it all. If anyone was smart and deleted these right off the hop maybe will have a good one that will reach some serious high mileage. But most have had the excess heat damage and stress it creates. As well as the shortfalls in design. You wonder why it was discontinued after a few years in the ford lineups.
Can you explane formula to type in to find out hours vs miles
one hour per 30 miles. That's not etched in stone. But it's a good rule of thumb. Your biggest concern should be blow by
Hi, how much is around 2008 _ 9. Truck ford f350 diesel
About $16000. But wait. The market is dropping fast
Where can I get one now?
A 6.4
How to buy a good 6.4 Powerstroke? It's easy, just buy a Cummins or a 7.3
NintendoLord85 Funny. I have a few 7.3s in stock right now. They are bullet proof. I agree. But my favorite motor is the 6.0 if set up properly. Followed closely by the 6.4. NOTHING outruns a 6.4 if it’s set up right. And I’ve sold hundreds of them. The Cummins is a great motor if you don’t mind replacing turbos every now and then.
7.3 piece of shit
Felipe Solano how they can get a 1000000 mi
@@powerstrokeguy7150 I know a guy who got a 6.4 and it’s got over a million miles,,,it’s his work truck ,,he doesn’t purposely try to break it ,,he does normal Maintenance on it and it last for him
Border patrol and customs and police vehicles look nice but have a shit load of hours since these guys don't do shit but just facebook all day in their cars with the ac on especially in the hot southwest.
gato Which is why I pointed out the relationship between hours and miles in the video. Thanks for paying attention.
Ihave 56k miles and 1465 hours
TheDailyDosage Sounds like a good one!! Did you do the DPF delete?
How do you see the hours
Big wheels Rollin keep pushing the trip button on your gauge cluster until it goes shows hours
what else do you recommend doing i just got a 2010 f350
Fresh fluids and filters are important. Change the transmission filter inside of the transmission pan if your fluid is dirty. Do a coolant flush an replace your coolant with the ford recommended anti-freeze.
The oil change was done ever 3500 miles, fuel filter ever year
Can you post a video how this stuff is done ? When do you recommend changing tran filter , coolant flush
it dosent really matter how much you take care of a 6.4 you will have to be ready to pull the heads and freshen up the fuel system anytime after 200k. Navistar used metal on metal type valve guides on the 6.4 heads to save money and they basically get worn out no matter how much preventive maintenance you do on these trucks.
How much would new heads and a fuel system run about ?
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There is no good 6.4
They have the potential to be a bad motor. They are not for everyone. With proper care and knowledge they can be good motors.
@@SELKCOMM still disagree they are literally 150k throwaway motors
i would rather buy a honda
Fernando Cardoza *Has Ford f250 profile photo*
yeah you should since you’re profile picture is a riced 08-10 super duty, stretched tires dont go on trucks.
Well on your profile picture it has an 08 f250 6.4