It won’t, if they start selling well, Europe will just impose heavy import duties on them to protect their own manufacturers. They’ll do well in South America though.
It would be hard to see Europe antagonising China. The self righteous EU turns a blind eye to China's appaling human rights record and its turning of Africa into its vassal states. This is all because Europe, especially Germany exports massively to China. This includes cars and German companies build many carss in China.
Derek, awesome review once again! Your reviews are such good quality and with a broad range of EVs and e-mobility devices covered you deserve a much bigger, global audience! Thank you from New Zealand 😊
We had our launch of the Dolphin on Thursday last week. Two trim levels, the 70kW power with 44.8kWh battery, a 150kW power with 60kWh battery. Several colour options both two tone and single colour with matching interiors. $38,890.00AUD(before on-road costs) for entry level and about $44k AUD for the premium spec. In 2024 we are also getting a Sport version limited edition of only 1,000 of them with sub 7 sec 0-100km/h. Deliveries coming in Sept/Oct this year. Heard the Seal sedan/saloon is coming in August(well launching in Australia) so that should be interesting as it's a Model 3 competitor. The Dolphin they priced exactly $100 less than the MG4 entry level which launched the week before(from memory) and claimed they had that price locked in a month ago, not sure I believe them too coincidental.
Wow at the price. This is the begining of the common person's ev. Very impressed. Must check headrest again. Off to showroom when it arrives to see it in the flesh again. Id3 Astra etc have no chance against this price. 15/16 kw/100 not bad. Thanks Derek. Des
Byd passenger cars will not go to US, because it will sell like mad in US and soon US gov will say byd is national security risk and sanction the hell of out of byd, seriously that's what US do to Chinese companies, can't compete? Just kill it
@@NevoEVReviewIreland The entry price is an entry price; it's real easy to plus several thousands. These cars have all kind of gadgets, why? Keep it simple and affordable.
That's a lot of EV for the money!! also Derek, you say it's built for comfort not speed.........7.0 seconds to 100kmh was a very fast hot hatch only a few years ago and even today it would be a quick daysil repmobile!!! The more I see of BYD....the more I like. Makes me even more excited about what the Seal is going to offer when it hits our shores....later in the year.
Electric motors are fast spinning and you don't need to wait for a petrol engine to rev up to produce maximum power. Electric motors give maximum torque the moment it spins.
@@AJames-jr8kw Mostly front, also a thicker rear bumper. But I wonder what's that space actually for. It also has a larger motor and beefier battery to accommodate.
Looks like a great option. I thought all the dolphin stuff was a bit gimmicky and tacky though... but for half sensible money they could have called it (and had it look like) the Monkfish and I'd still consider it. Great review.
The Atto 3 has what is colloquilly referred to as "dragstrip mode" in which we hold down the bottom left button on the right hand arm of the steering wheel, after a few seconds the display changes to an acceleration timer and for 60 seconds it uncorks all the power the motor, battery and controller can offer. Most owners find that their 0-62mph time drops by about half a second to about 6.8. I wonder if the Dolphin has this feature ? Nice review thanks Derek.
You have to buy the Comfort model to get basic equipment like parking sensors? That's getting into the "not cheap" territory around £30k in UK. Demand will also keep the price elevated for a while; haven't seen a huge drop with the MG4 yet either. Plebs like me will have to wait until the first batch of PCP loans end to pick up a bargain. In the meantime, cars like the Leaf are toast; they just don't offer enough range or charging options to justify the price tag now.
In Australia the base 70kw motor/45kwh battery Dolphin is priced the same as the 51kwh MG4. In that basis I doubt you will be able to buy the 61kwh version for €27,500 in Ireland.
Do you think the Dolphin is sluggish? After this drive we were told it was in safe mode for shipping and all the power wasn't available. I do agree that the MG 4 handles better
Interesting car. Just announced UK prices and it’s competitive with the MG4 but not exactly cheap. Still, nice to finally have a BYD with reasonable range under £30k here but I’d still go for the MG4.
I like you videos and your focus on the stats, but your microphone kinds sucks. It picks up too much random noise, makes the video not that great to listen to.
Dolphin €30k price in Ireland, it will be completely sold out in Singapore. Atto was priced at US$130k even after shaving off US$15k from gov super tariffs by downgrading its motor power to lowest. BYD lowest downgraded model is selling at Porsche price in Singapore. Carrera Cabriolet $127,200 MSRP. 911 Targa $134,500 MSRP.
Derek, Very engaging review. This is the first affordable real multi-use EV. Great price, huge battery on top spec. Yes, the opposition will be worried, indeed. E
@@NevoEVReviewIreland my feeling is that there is an element of price management early doors to limit demand while they establish themselves. Once they are fully set up, I suspect that they will go very aggressive on pricing to ramp up demand.
@@qilu2004 thats the same with most vehicles except they can employ strong regen without using the brake pedal even to the extent of "one pedal driving" which I prefer.
@@2011ppower most people dislike one pedal mode, according to a survey done in china which represent over 60% of global ev ownership. i personally hate one pedal driving. i much prefer the smooth glide over jerkey slow downs. as long as one generates same amount of energy by using the brake, i don't see the point of one pedal, other than its being a superstition inplanted by tesla.
I advice not to buy this in Ireland because in winter this 44kw battery will hive you less than 150km range. When you buy a car it should have at least 70kw battery
Thanks for the comment, the car I reviewed was a 60kWh. The smaller battery in a lighter car should see 250km+ in my opinion as heat pump is standard too but only a real world test will tell.
MG IS Chinese. And in fact, it's a 2nd league Chinese manufacturer (SAIC) compared to BYD which is a leader in EVs and batteries both in China as well as globally.
Hmm....great review. But of an instantly forgettable car. Then again, that could be what it's all about. It goes, it's safe, it's simple, it'll keep you dry in the rain and - presumably - it'll be reliable. Don't worry if it's all a bit bland. Well it worked for Skoda when VW relaunched them, and look at them now.
@@NevoEVReviewIreland Yes very true and maybe it looks better in real life. I would have done the DRLs at the front different do and think it could have looked sleacker.
You missed some details in your review: particularly, the rates of spontaneous fires, airbag failures, and other safety issues, which get noted in US-made and European models, but suppressed in regard to this brand and others made in the same country: ua-cam.com/video/qKa8mVOe5so/v-deo.html
@@NevoEVReviewIreland I mean, mainstream news and automotive reviews and the like prominently and rightly publish when, say, a Tesla spontaneously catches fire, and plenty more of the same can be found on non-state-controlled social media. In contrast, the CCP government forcibly suppresses news of critical safety failures of EVs by BYD and other makers in the country. If current review trends continue, we won't get fair and balanced reporting on those until they start failing similarly in democracies, and by then, people will have been harmed and homes and businesses will have been damaged or destroyed. To prevent this, it's on reviewers in democracies to find the videos and other reporting Chinese citizens bravely publish, at risk of state persecution, and re-publish them before the CCP censors remove them from WeChat, Sina Weibo, Youku Tudou, and so on. Irish auto buyers, for example, shouldn't have to await BYD fires in Ireland or Austalia before deciding whether to buy a BYD car: despite the CCP government's mostly successful suppression of the news, EV buyers worldwide should already have an accurate impression of brand's safety track record to date in its country of origin, just as they can readily compare the same for EVs from Ford, GM, Peugeot, Polestar, Renault, Stellantis, Telsa, and so on-all of which are headquartered in countries whose governments don't censor news of car fires or imprison people for publishing said news.
The Chinese will hammer the European car industry. I think some legacy marques will go to the wall.
It won’t, if they start selling well, Europe will just impose heavy import duties on them to protect their own manufacturers. They’ll do well in South America though.
Time will tell and consumers will want value no matter where it originates
@@Jonathan_Doe_ dont forget that china is most profitable for german car manufacturers.
Time to sanction China.
It would be hard to see Europe antagonising China. The self righteous EU turns a blind eye to China's appaling human rights record and its turning of Africa into its vassal states. This is all because Europe, especially Germany exports massively to China. This includes cars and German companies build many carss in China.
Derek, awesome review once again! Your reviews are such good quality and with a broad range of EVs and e-mobility devices covered you deserve a much bigger, global audience! Thank you from New Zealand 😊
Couldn't agree more. Great stuff Derek in sweltering heat. Us Irish not used to that 😂
Thanks very much both. I really appreciate the support
Breath of fresh air for a car design
Agree
??? At every corner i see a different design, resembling older designs from other brands...
Is there anything totally new anymore?🤷♂️
Will not be shocked to see a ton of these on the roads whenever they hit Ireland.
Me too!
We had our launch of the Dolphin on Thursday last week. Two trim levels, the 70kW power with 44.8kWh battery, a 150kW power with 60kWh battery. Several colour options both two tone and single colour with matching interiors. $38,890.00AUD(before on-road costs) for entry level and about $44k AUD for the premium spec. In 2024 we are also getting a Sport version limited edition of only 1,000 of them with sub 7 sec 0-100km/h. Deliveries coming in Sept/Oct this year. Heard the Seal sedan/saloon is coming in August(well launching in Australia) so that should be interesting as it's a Model 3 competitor. The Dolphin they priced exactly $100 less than the MG4 entry level which launched the week before(from memory) and claimed they had that price locked in a month ago, not sure I believe them too coincidental.
Competition is a funny thing 😉
Wow at the price. This is the begining of the common person's ev. Very impressed. Must check headrest again.
Off to showroom when it arrives to see it in the flesh again.
Id3 Astra etc have no chance against this price.
15/16 kw/100 not bad.
Thanks Derek.
Des
Welcome Des. The 44.9kWh battery will be very interesting indeed
@@NevoEVReviewIrelandChinese invasion ramping up following in the footsteps of MG...
@@NevoEVReviewIrelandwould luv that in my Mazda MX-30, even 40 would be gr8! I'll make do though!
we need this in the US. better than the leaf and bolt for less money? bring it over.
Biden wont like this.
@@kito1692 😂😂😂😂😂 hard fact
The US might be the last place on earth to get a BYD, unfortunately.
Byd passenger cars will not go to US, because it will sell like mad in US and soon US gov will say byd is national security risk and sanction the hell of out of byd, seriously that's what US do to Chinese companies, can't compete? Just kill it
Rubio said: This is a Chinese spy car.. 😂😂
Great review mate
Glad you liked it!
Very interesting car in my opinion. Good to see some decent value for money EVS approaching the market 😊
Value for money???
Thanks Dariusz. Appreciate the question Stefan, value for money in EV land and yes, we all want more affordable EVs
@@NevoEVReviewIreland The entry price is an entry price; it's real easy to plus several thousands. These cars have all kind of gadgets, why? Keep it simple and affordable.
Oh I agree
@@stefan2796 Chinese consumers demand them. No gadgets, no sales. Not economic to delete for OS sales.
Nice looking design and good specs.
Agreed!
That's a lot of EV for the money!! also Derek, you say it's built for comfort not speed.........7.0 seconds to 100kmh was a very fast hot hatch only a few years ago and even today it would be a quick daysil repmobile!!!
The more I see of BYD....the more I like. Makes me even more excited about what the Seal is going to offer when it hits our shores....later in the year.
Electric motors are fast spinning and you don't need to wait for a petrol engine to rev up to produce maximum power. Electric motors give maximum torque the moment it spins.
@@eish3291 oh I know why EV's are quick.....it's just that Derek had mentioned in the video that it wasn't particularly quick.
It's very measured
The Dolphin offers a comfort-oriented, Toyota-like ride, and handling characteristics to match. Not slow, but it’s “just” a family car on that regard.
@@theolich4384 Toyota-like ride??? LOL!
When you stand next to it, I feel the Dolphin is way larger than I thought. It's really bigger than it's shown in commercial ads.
@@lche059 I suppose it's even bigger than Mazada 3 hatchback. I love it! Dolphin! I like these intermediate sizes!!!
Same as ID 3 and CUPRA Born
For export, they enlarged it a bit to match the inflated price (from all the tariff and handling fees).
@@theolich4384 I read all the extra length is in front of the A pillar to help it get 5 star Euro NCAP.
@@AJames-jr8kw Mostly front, also a thicker rear bumper. But I wonder what's that space actually for. It also has a larger motor and beefier battery to accommodate.
This is a great car, an EV at last for us poor people.
Poor?
Maybe we could say a more affordable EV. A cheaper price point coming for the standard range battery
Hardly think €30k is cheap for poor people 😮
They will announce tonight in Australia, the start price around AU$38k. Perfect for city driving and commuting.
Nice price for Oz! I think it will sell well
38000-6000=32000 if the final prize in Aus.
Looks like a great option. I thought all the dolphin stuff was a bit gimmicky and tacky though... but for half sensible money they could have called it (and had it look like) the Monkfish and I'd still consider it. Great review.
It was going to be called ATTO 2 I think but they stuck with the memorable name
The interior looks like garbage. And the government want us to buy this hunk of trash? That giant touch screen is ridiculous.
Some people really like the bigger screen! Thanks for the comment
Excellent review .Informative and gives us the room to develop an opinion.
Thanks for the feedback. I aim to give it straight
The Atto 3 has what is colloquilly referred to as "dragstrip mode" in which we hold down the bottom left button on the right hand arm of the steering wheel, after a few seconds the display changes to an acceleration timer and for 60 seconds it uncorks all the power the motor, battery and controller can offer. Most owners find that their 0-62mph time drops by about half a second to about 6.8. I wonder if the Dolphin has this feature ? Nice review thanks Derek.
Need to check out this "dragstrip mode"!
It does
Any reason why price doubles the price in China? The import costs shouldn't have added so much.
Market weight and what consumers will pay
Well done getting such an early drive / review
Glad you liked it
Finally a great EV that I can afford!! Super excited
Glad you enjoyed it
You have to buy the Comfort model to get basic equipment like parking sensors? That's getting into the "not cheap" territory around £30k in UK. Demand will also keep the price elevated for a while; haven't seen a huge drop with the MG4 yet either. Plebs like me will have to wait until the first batch of PCP loans end to pick up a bargain. In the meantime, cars like the Leaf are toast; they just don't offer enough range or charging options to justify the price tag now.
Unfortunately the demand is keeping the price high. A double edged sword as more sakes will help availability in the second hand market which is good
Well done Derek 👏
Great job as usual
Regards Jim's Shed
Many thanks! Was enjoying your mini steering wheel replacement video!
In Australia the base 70kw motor/45kwh battery Dolphin is priced the same as the 51kwh MG4.
In that basis I doubt you will be able to buy the 61kwh version for €27,500 in Ireland.
Prices (ex delivery and charges) in Ireland are €27,818 before the grant changes on July 1st. Then the price will be €29,318.
In Australia the MG is only $100 dearer but it's a much better less sluggish better handling car.
Do you think the Dolphin is sluggish? After this drive we were told it was in safe mode for shipping and all the power wasn't available. I do agree that the MG 4 handles better
4-way adjustable steering wheel! other car reviewers complains they only could move up and down. so that's a new model?
No idea, maybe on the European model?
Derek, thank you for your sensible. professional and comprehensive approach. A very worthwhile review; thanks again.😉👍👏👏👏
Glad it was helpful!
Interesting car. Just announced UK prices and it’s competitive with the MG4 but not exactly cheap. Still, nice to finally have a BYD with reasonable range under £30k here but I’d still go for the MG4.
It's definitely going to be a head to head
MG4 seems a lot bigger
I like you videos and your focus on the stats, but your microphone kinds sucks. It picks up too much random noise, makes the video not that great to listen to.
Apologies. My selection of noisey backgrounds is not helping. I'm thinking of changing the lavaliere mic to find some improvements
Still calling this affordable at 30k€ is a stretch .Irish economy is not as strong as people think.
I'm looking forward to even more affordable EVs but cars in general are way more expensive than I remember
This is the vehicle I’ve been waiting for😊
Definitely get in for a test drive
my wife picked up her new dolphin today, for 130Kish RMB, which is 16.7K Euro.
Nice price!
@@NevoEVReviewIreland and it is 130KW version.
@@jianyang6281 no need to rub salt in our wound bro
@@leefster1 bro, to make you happy, I am still saving 3M RMB for a three-room apartment, which is 380K euro. And it will take my life time.
How will VW, Stellantis and the Japanese Toyota and Nissan survive?
Deep pockets but they need to start making more affordable EVs soon
It's very easy to drive a right HD car in Europe. It's all on the mind.
Long term for sure but swapping sides of the road is enough for me in 24hrs
This car would be perfect for daily commute or students.
I think the bigger battery will be decent for longer journeys too
Dolphin €30k price in Ireland, it will be completely sold out in Singapore. Atto was priced at US$130k even after shaving off US$15k from gov super tariffs by downgrading its motor power to lowest.
BYD lowest downgraded model is selling at Porsche price in Singapore. Carrera Cabriolet $127,200 MSRP. 911 Targa $134,500 MSRP.
Wow! 😯
great review mate
Glad you liked it!
what a coincidence that his watch band matches the interior of the car
I had no idea what colour car I was getting that day
With you mentioning how hot you are…does this mean it has no air con..? Sorry if I’ve missed you talking about this.. 🤔
Aircon was great, just not available to me outside or filming with the door open 😓
Derek, Very engaging review. This is the first affordable real multi-use EV. Great price, huge battery on top spec. Yes, the opposition will be worried, indeed. E
Thanks Eamon!
Kinda annoying to be watching this again because you didn't recap the boot
345 LTRs!
still no dash cam with the atto3
PRICE ?
Thanks for the question. What country are you in?
The only problem with this car is Irish tax
Exactly!
Can't help thinking that the dolphin will be a huge seller. Get the pricing right and it might dominate the market segment over the EU offerings.
Pricing out already!
@@NevoEVReviewIreland my feeling is that there is an element of price management early doors to limit demand while they establish themselves. Once they are fully set up, I suspect that they will go very aggressive on pricing to ramp up demand.
And hopefully the Seagull will land here too!
@@NevoEVReviewIreland absolutely!
@@NevoEVReviewIreland absolutely!
Test drove one and the throttle delay is so annoying
We had the same issue on the test drive and it was a software upgrade.
@@NevoEVReviewIreland you mean it gets better after software update?
Yes!
Evs need to be 400km+ to be concidered practical. But lets hope the prices come down.😮 its still 10k more than a toyota corolla
With electricity prices coming down and charging from solar Vs petrol prices going up, the running costs also need to be considered
One pedal driving? Decent regeneration?
Thanks for the question. No one pedal driving and regeneration is not great unfortunately
Nice thorough review with not too much detail.
Glad you liked it!
Great review! I like your channel. 👍
Thank you so much 👍
Ground clearance sir??
120mm sir
Looks good for an entry level EV
For sure! Even smaller EVs are welcome to arrive too
6'2" right? 😅
Correct! 188cm
Does it have the same weak non adjustable regen as the Atto3?
the first half of brake is regen, no brake pad engaged. so the regen isn't weaker, just different design.
@@qilu2004 thats the same with most vehicles except they can employ strong regen without using the brake pedal even to the extent of "one pedal driving" which I prefer.
@@2011ppower most people dislike one pedal mode, according to a survey done in china which represent over 60% of global ev ownership. i personally hate one pedal driving. i much prefer the smooth glide over jerkey slow downs. as long as one generates same amount of energy by using the brake, i don't see the point of one pedal, other than its being a superstition inplanted by tesla.
I too like 1 pedal driving and experienced it 1st in the LEAF. The Dolphin has the same setup as the ATTO 3 so it is minimal
I advice not to buy this in Ireland because in winter this 44kw battery will hive you less than 150km range. When you buy a car it should have at least 70kw battery
Thanks for the comment, the car I reviewed was a 60kWh. The smaller battery in a lighter car should see 250km+ in my opinion as heat pump is standard too but only a real world test will tell.
It have a sporty character?
Not really. Competent but the one I had was software speed restricted so I'm looking forward to driving it on Irish roads unrestricted
@EVReviewIreland In my country it's should cost like Seat ibiza FR 1.5T. Is there a reason to wait for the BYD?
Design😳
🙂😂😂
Evening mate
Evening
in china , the price is between $1.5 and $1.88
Unfortunately they want to make a little more margin in other markets. Still decent value compared to the rest
The two tone is a bit weird - looks like they only had a silver bonnet at the scrapyard😅
Ha ha, not sure blue is the one to show it off best
Bit like a Chinese MG4
Same but different
The MG4 is Chinese so…a Chinese Chinese?
MG IS Chinese. And in fact, it's a 2nd league Chinese manufacturer (SAIC) compared to BYD which is a leader in EVs and batteries both in China as well as globally.
the mg4 is chinese
Is it Zoe size?
No, it is bigger, it is ID3 size
Correct
Hmm....great review. But of an instantly forgettable car. Then again, that could be what it's all about. It goes, it's safe, it's simple, it'll keep you dry in the rain and - presumably - it'll be reliable. Don't worry if it's all a bit bland.
Well it worked for Skoda when VW relaunched them, and look at them now.
Ah it's a nice car and good value. What the masses want
bmw i3
You think it looks alike?
@@NevoEVReviewIreland yes
Definitely in colour with the 2 tone.
out dated looking front old fashioned lights and grill , Back lights are upto date.
Playing it conservative in some areas for sure
very jarrings sometimes in the video you will not finish your sentences and just transition very quickly
Apologies, trying to get too much out in a short period of time. Will try to at least finish my sentences and take a breath
It's very plain. I think the front could have been done better. An MG4 looks better.
Beauty is in the eye of the beholder. I like both
@@NevoEVReviewIreland Yes very true and maybe it looks better in real life. I would have done the DRLs at the front different do and think it could have looked sleacker.
MG4 simply looks cheap-ish. It's obviously a copy of multiple car designs jumbled together (that's how it looks to me).
BYD: Break Your Dreams...
A little unfair no?
You missed some details in your review: particularly, the rates of spontaneous fires, airbag failures, and other safety issues, which get noted in US-made and European models, but suppressed in regard to this brand and others made in the same country: ua-cam.com/video/qKa8mVOe5so/v-deo.html
When you say "get noted" what do you mean?
@@NevoEVReviewIreland I mean, mainstream news and automotive reviews and the like prominently and rightly publish when, say, a Tesla spontaneously catches fire, and plenty more of the same can be found on non-state-controlled social media. In contrast, the CCP government forcibly suppresses news of critical safety failures of EVs by BYD and other makers in the country. If current review trends continue, we won't get fair and balanced reporting on those until they start failing similarly in democracies, and by then, people will have been harmed and homes and businesses will have been damaged or destroyed. To prevent this, it's on reviewers in democracies to find the videos and other reporting Chinese citizens bravely publish, at risk of state persecution, and re-publish them before the CCP censors remove them from WeChat, Sina Weibo, Youku Tudou, and so on. Irish auto buyers, for example, shouldn't have to await BYD fires in Ireland or Austalia before deciding whether to buy a BYD car: despite the CCP government's mostly successful suppression of the news, EV buyers worldwide should already have an accurate impression of brand's safety track record to date in its country of origin, just as they can readily compare the same for EVs from Ford, GM, Peugeot, Polestar, Renault, Stellantis, Telsa, and so on-all of which are headquartered in countries whose governments don't censor news of car fires or imprison people for publishing said news.
Poor value for money and low power.
Thanks for the comment. What would you say is good value for money with good power?
the reason why BYD is popular - nobody trust anything from youtube
Thanks for the comment.I'm lost, what do you mean?
Excellent review.
Thanks Ter. Glad you enjoyed it
its a ugly rip off lemon
better off with a Nissan Leaf
Thanks for the comment. The LEAF is a great car too for sure.
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who is this guy lol
Ah he got the wrong car