August 3rd! Tim Pool! Charlie Kirk! Get hyped. 😏 ⏱ Timestamps! 0:00 Intro 1:29 Debate Starts 4:22 Starting a Different Video 9:11 Food Stamps 14:14 Sam Talking Over Charlie 18:47 Charlie Getting Angry 20:45 Old Man Shouting at Cloud 25:15 “California & New York are Dying” 31:00 Charlie Kirk’s Greatest Debate Power 34:40 Foxconn 38:12 Stock Buy Backs 44:34 Wealth Inequality 47:57 Data & Graphs on Coal 52:22 Clean Water Act 56:14 Regulations 1:00:51 Phoebus Cartel 1:04:48 Community Banks 1:09:18 “What Sam Should Do Here” 1:14:36 CHARLIE CAN’T ANSWER 1:20:08 Charlie… Sam is Capitalism Too & Banks 1:33:18 Wrapping Up
Sam Seder is an og. They stopped inviting him on news programs because he just brutalized righties with jokes. His War on Christmas interview still has one of the strongest openers I've seen. Also bring Sam Seder to Beanieland
Also Charlie Kirk: rails against property taxes Not knowing that Texas has higher property taxes than New York and California. Turns out having no state income tax means you just extract taxes another (and more unequal) way. But Texas good cause I can LARP as a cowboy pew pew
Texas: 35th highest per capita income in 50 state + DC ranking. California: 9th highest per capita income in 50 state + DC ranking. Charlie: Oh yeah well 35 is, objectively speaking, a higher number than 9, so therefore, and I rest my case here, checkmate libtardz.
FYI, on Sam’s own debate review, he discussed mic management- he expected Kirk to overrun him, so he used a hand mic instead of lapel mic. Kirk’s trick is to hold the mic further away during setup, then draw it closer to out-gain his opponent.
Love that Sam does more than just regular debate prep. When they asked if he wanted a handheld or clip mic he asked what Charlie has. That way he can match whatever he needs optically but also Charlie uses handhelds because he can yell into them and out compete a clip on mic etc
Then at the beginning of the debate 5:45 he contextualizes Charlie's econ stats by referencing the dynamic of turning one microphone up from 5 to 8 while turning up another from 5 to 12. He knew he was subtly calling Charlie out and getting in his head.
“Let’s compare the failed state of California with Texas”?? This did not age well, given Texas’s failed power grid situation. A prime example of the free-market at work.
It was a once in a hundred year incident upon which they had no control over. Meanwhile in most parts of california electricity goes off every day for a considerable amt of time while texas is completely back to normal. That's free market for u.
@@sayakroy9070 Texas normally has around 1200 unplanned outages? Texas normally avoids preparedness for known issues that have caused problems in the past? Texas sounds great.
Because anyone who is remotely experienced debating people who argue in bad faith, whether they're on the left or the right, knows that they're never going to change the mind of the person they're debating. So the goal becomes presenting your case to the audience instead. If you can convince them you're right, you win.
@@gingerlicious3500 that's always been what scheduled debates are about. The only time debating 8s meant to change someone's mind is if it's a debate held between two personal acquaintances or friends debating offline between just the two of them. Debating on a stage or show is always about having the audience agree with you not the opponent.
"to become rich you have to have a really good idea and people have to keep buying it. No exploitation" Yeah and the goods magically appeared. No underpaid workers who work 10x harder than their bosses who take in 10x the wage
I guess the issue with debating somebody like Charlie Kirk is he is literally just lying, so quickly and frequently without being checked. How do you deal with that? You're literally stuck playing janitor to a trash monster.
The tricky thing is that you have to state the right facts and then portray your opponent as stupid or uninformed to believe their own lies. Easiest way to do so is with a joke at their expense
I legit laughed out loud with the 'failed state of California' bit. Like, yeah, they've got a ton of problems needing solutions, but that goes for every state.
But isn't California's economy booming? I would think Charlie Kirk would consider this a success, him being a venture capitalist and all. When he talks about the national economy, he touts the GDP, etc and ignores the systemic problems. When he talks about California, he ignores the economy and focuses on the systemic problems all because it's a liberal state.
When its about the US: The American free market invented Google and Microsoft, the Transistor and Hollywood! When it's about California: Fucking un-American communist hellhole.
@@Aboertmann Charlie Kirk has zero principles. He's a mouthpiece for dark conservative money no matter the cost. He doesn't give a shit about actual people.
I've lived in Texas all my life and I'd rather not the whole country be like this deregulated, non-union, Bible-thumping crapfest. I'll be leaving as soon as my responsibilities allow me to do so.
He'll be the reason why Charlie will then say "debating left wingers is a waste of time" after he's proven to not actually know anything beyond just his blind, nationalist cheerleading and occasionally racist snark.
@@foxjade8924 You don't do these debates just to convince the rusted-on right wingers because that's very unlikely, you primarily do it to look good rhetorically so the undecided, outsiders, bystanders etc might be convinced. If Vaush can get clips out of this where he makes a solid point against Tim and Charlie and you can get them triggered, that clip will be seen by people who will see it's a bad look for them. It's not as important as on-the-ground activism but unironically, rhetorical efficacy online that makes right wingers look inconsistent and weak can really sway people. You'd be shocked how many people have their positions moved by optical wins.
@@nackskott12 Most right-wingers are only right-wing because they've seen people like Ben Shapiro and Steven Crowder get optical wins. It's why those types are so focused on arguing with people who are inexperienced in politics and debates. Charlie seems to be an exception, he debates people who do know what they're talking about and how to talk about it (like Sam Seder in this particular debate, someone who terrifies Steven Crowder).
@@horacioelconserjeopina3956 "Nobody watched Sam Seder" Literally nobody? I can personally say: you are provably wrong. What else are you wrong about? This is why reality has a Left leaning bias, conservatives need to LARP (Live Action Role Play) a fantasy. I know I'm winning, you have to play pretend. You can't argue against me with something real. Team sports politics, eh? Your imagination feels lose to my reals. But try again. Don't run away. I watched Cold Feet crowder run away from Sam Seder. Be better. Don't be like Cold Feet crowder.
I'm glad you're spending so much time preparing for this. I feel like this is different from the debates you usually do and I think it's kind of important you do well.
So kirk thinks the tax cuts should have been met with spending cuts, but is completely unwilling to criticize Trump increasing the military budget by nearly a trillion dollars?
The people that say things like "California is a failed state." and "People are fleeing California in droves, and talk about it like it's this third world hellscape know absolutely nothing about California or have ever been there. It could be an axiom at this point.
also, it's funny that all of a sudden, homelessness is such a major issue when they can use it to bash a blue state. Don't get me wrong, I do think california needs to do a lot to fix its homelessness problem. But it can't do it by going in the direction charlie kirk wants to take it.
I'm from New Jersey, trust me I know how you feel. The amount of shit they say about us on the opposite coat is sad. And yet life here is pretty damn good. Our taxes are stupid high but the trade-off is our public services are pretty awesome. We got mostly great schools which right off the bat is nice and our kids aren't super dummies, so with just that I feel justified in paying my state taxes.
@@rishabhanand4973 California has such a great homeless population because it is the best place to be homeless. The climate is solid, not too hot, not too cold, and the people are willing to help. I wholeheartedly agree with California needing to fix its homelessness issue, but that begins with enhanced mental health services and affordable housing.
i'm not optimistic about vaush's chances here. a 3v1 is asking for Pool, Kirk and the lady to completely overrun him with crazy dumbfuck conspiracy theories without giving him an opportunity to talk or debunk anything they're saying. he'll have to prepare for this one
I hate to say it, but if you could trust him not to go all anti-leftist, Destiny would be a good teammate. Enemy of my enemy. But I wouldn't trust him to not go all "the left is too woke!" Granted, I've never seen his opinion on the CRT discussion, but I'm willing to bet I'm more right than wrong
@@flashthompson6566 Actually Destiny is quite pro 'woke-ness' when it comes to social issues like CRT, LGBTQ stuff and whatnot. It's the lefty understanding of economics (or according to him, lack of understanding of economics) and the position of anti-capitalism which he opposes and attacks the left on for the most part.
@@axoltl1 I'll give you the benefit of the doubt on believing that, but after his "I'm blocking all the transgenders on Twitter" arc, I'm highly skeptical
Am i the only one that cant look at Charlie Kirk with a straight face? I SWEAR hes an Oblivion character in slightly higher resolution, all his facial expressions would fit right in.
The Kirk v Seder debate is legit one of the best political debates I’ve seen and was the thing that really turned me on to Sam. Sam used actual in depth policy knowledge to expose Kirk as the empty husk he is. Kirk obviously only has surface level talking points and will ALWAYS try to pivot towards them, as evidenced by him being incredibly broad and vague about the “hundreds of regulations” Trump repealed, of which Kirk couldn’t name or identify the function of one. Everything always boils down to “liberals and regulation bad, conservatives and deregulation good.” Even when holding such a binary position leads to obvious inconsistency, he will NEVER concede an inch that regulation can do good (unless of course when he’s engaging in doublethink about big tech). The fact that Sam actually knew what he was talking about was able to cut through the mindless buzzwords Kirk was spouting and made him look like a fool.
Remember the room was full of Kirk's supporters, and that's why what Sam did is even better. Sam always talks about his goal is not to convince the guy he is debating. It is all about getting through to a part of their audience.
At 6:00 Sam talks about Charlie's mic volume inequality. He was referencing Charlie's debate with Hasan who got a collar mic, but Charlie kept pulling his handheld mic up close so he could increase his volume. It was very effective and relevant to what you'll be dealing with. At the beginning of this debate, the staffers asked Sam what kind of mic he'd like, and Sam said "I'll have what he's having."
As an econ uni student, it warms my heart to hear vaush accurately describe econ phenomenon like externalities and moral hazards. Props to him for also defending the field of economics itself. I've often wondered why leftists usually don't take the time to try to fully educate themselves on how securities markets work bc there is a LOT to criticize.
@@theparker3759 the rest of the world uses middle class too, what the fuck? do you think the rest of the world runs on marxian terminology? middle class, if anything, is uniquely inappropriate for usa, where the middle class is becoming less and less common
The term was originated in ENGLAND. It is a distinctly European word and concept that was transferred to the New World via English settlers, and throughout the world the same way. It existed before Marx, and it existed before the US. How the FUCK could the middle class be a uniquely American anything? I don't know or care what he meant. What he *said* was nonsense.
Why is Vaush walking into the the lion's den for a battle hosted by a wolf? His opponent isn't the problem -- an elephant can beat a lion any day. Vaush knows how to keep his cool & plot out his talking points. But he MUST insist on a neutral moderator FFS. And is this gonna be live?
I disagree. I think Pool is going to play nice because he cares about the longevity of his channel. If he comes across as "fair" to both sides, this will help in the long run far, far, far better than the short-term gains he might get from being an unfair jacka$$.
Vaush: "Now remember, the goal here is to analyze how Charlie Kirk behaves, not necessarily the back and forth of the points" ...a literal 60 seconds later... Also Vaush: _picks apart Charlie Kirk's arguments_
16:28 "if they got rich... they took a risk, employed a bunch of people had to buy a building.... employed an extraordinary amount of people..." -Charlie Kirk 😂 WHO has money for that much up-front investment? I don't think Charlie Kirk knows how poor people start businesses.
He doesn’t realize corporations pay intelligent people to have good ideas that they can profit off of. It’s so mind numbing to hear him talk about his 5 year old conception of a capitalist society.
Note: When Charlie tried to reach out & put his hands on Sam, Sam immediately swerved out of the way & continued to speak, denying Charlie the chance to take control, leaving him looking like a beta.
It's so weird and surreal that Cassandra Fairbanks is at this level that she's being talked about be either popular or up and coming streamers or podcasters. I met her once in 2014, when she claimed to be a libertarian socialist and was working for a go nowhere, indie journalist outlet in my county. She had a leftist activist friend who I also met who I am still friends with to this day. That friend was also working as a journalist but for a popular radio station local to my country. About a year or two when Cassandra claimed to switch from the left to the right, me and Cassandra's friend disavowed her simultaneously. It's just weird that a partisan hack hypocrite thatI use to know has reached this level of fame and has former personal friends that are current friends of mine.
@@theowlsarefun That's what I'm saying. When I met her she was very socially anxious and couldn't seem to pull it together enough to rub two intellectual brain cells together. It's therfore weird to me that she ever got this far. I don't think she was ever a sincere leftist. I think she just latches onto whatevers trendy without giving it much thought
The "righteous fury" bit mostly comes from being able to not stutter too much while mad along with emphasis on "hard" words. "DOUBLED the deficit", "it used to be called Stock Manipulation" things like that. Words that help get the specifics of WHY you're mad across. Also not mentioning your opponent as much, when you show anger that is directed at arguments and backed by facts rather than like whining that your opponent did something it comes across as something to be genuinely angry about. That's not to say dont mention your opponent but show why their argument should make people angry and then demand they respond This observation brought to you by 6 years of acting classes
STAY CALM. THAT IS LITERALLY ALL YOU HAVE TO DO. Charlie will get angry at the drop of a hat, and if you can pull that out of him while chilling out? Instant win.
The funny thing is light bulbs breaking is 100% manufactured. Light bulbs in the 1800's could run forever, the technology to make them never break existed. If your light bulb breaks, it's planned obselecence. The longest burning light bulb that has never been turned off is in an old fire station, it has been on since the 1880's
I feel like Charlie Kirk just throws out a bunch of random statistics and talks really fast but nothing he says actually refutes anything Sam said at all and if asked to elaborate on anything specific that he said he would probably have no idea what he’s talking about
I’m pretty sure Sam Seder could do a good job. If he’s good enough to make Steven “Change my mind” Crowder run away from debating him for years on end, then he might just be at that level.
Vaush went on JLP's show. It went exactly the same as all the others there. JLP musters up all his brainpower and asks hilariously incoherent nonsense questions, and doesn't engage in the slightest with any response.
@@davajita I watched Hasan on JLP and it was infuriatingly boring because JLP acted like a total zombie and never engaged on a single topic. Discussions require two people participating, but JLP's brain is running on 1GB RAM.
Really appreciate your perspectives in this crazy time we live in. I would go as far as to say you are a role model and trailblazer in the media space you occupy right now. It’s impressive that you have as many wins as you do, and you’re still willing to be introspective and improve. Keep doing you. I wish you the best of luck with your debate.
I'm actually verrry nervous for Vaush. Ik it was earlier on in his Career but that first debate with sargon of akkad he kinda lost it, ik he has a lot more expirence from that but still, im hecka nervous.
this video didn't help my confidence. He was getting hype, and he's not even IN the debate. Debate prep should include keeping his cool, he needs to practice that the most.
Pretty harsh to be worried about that in particular considering how early that was, destroying Sargon the next time he spoke to him and how patient he is with insufferable, straight-up Nazis and their circular verbal coprophilia. Check out his "debate" with that Canadian Nazi; I would have had an aneurysm from that shambles.
@@TSmith-yy3cc I don't think people are trying to be mean to Vaush, like. It's more about the uneven footing of the debate, and it would be difficult for anyone to come across well in that situation. I haven't seen any debates with that kind of footing since the first Sargon one.
I don't think you loose a debate for being a "triggered leftie" when you're opponents are elitist/facist/racists. I think only irredeemable loosers would watch that and not also be pissed off
I, do, remember my dad being angry about lightbulbs when I was in high school. He declared to always use incandescent lightbulbs because something bout government tyranny.
Trump claimed they are why he looks orange. So, at least your dad understood how light refraction, reflection, and absorbtion work. Or he just doesn't look orange. IDK your dad.
You can say I agree when they compliment you, or when they step into a verbal trap. Such as, "I think you are very thoughtful..." "Thank you, I agree." Or, "Maybe we should eliminate all big banks." "Absolutely, I agree." They simply cannot clip that enough that the burn won't follow.
I am coming from the future. I saw clips from the Vaush vs Charlie debate and I'm new to Vaush but have been a lurker on the left many other places. Vaush straight up DESTORYS Charlie after this little bit of prep. Please do it again, and aim for a bigger target next time Vaush. I subscribed immediately. You rocked it dude.
1:36 though 1:42 Ok, ok, I’m glad me and my boyfriend aren’t the only ones who think that Sam Seder’s a total DILF. ❤️ But objectifications aside, I love Sam Seder. Totally based and a great debater. Looking forward to the debate on the 3rd.
@@weilandcock I'm 60, and don't get it either. I love his hair, facial expressions, especially the wiggly eyebrows, his intelligence and skepticism, yet optimism too. Gee, I just don't know...
GOP PLAYBOOK 101 Section: Skip the Chapter The presenter will ONLY highlight the moment of a policy when enacted, painting a rosy illustration, while ignoring the policy’s aftermath. Ex: When the Kansas tax cuts happened, the economy soared. [Omission: until the state had to create tax increases to make up the financial harm from the Brownbach tax cuts.]
Lol, didn’t know this was gonna be a 3 v 1 debate, hopefully this doesn’t devolve into Killstream (but if it does, then Vaush, no tactical N-words this time homie)
yeah wells fargo was started in like the 1800s.... how do you compete with a bank that has over a 100 years old. who's going to go to fred's bank?! 5 points to those that know the reference.
Sam: Actually, what you just said is blatantly false and anyone with a phone can check for themselves and see. Charlie: FULL STEAM AHEAD! CHOO-CHOOOOOOOOOOO!!!
Of course, same with the automobile industry producing cars that were built to last.. now it’s about pushing products that have short shelf life in order to continue gaining profit. It’s crazy.
Automation and strip mining killed coal jobs, not regulations. They ain't coming back, no matter what we do. I say this as a third generation WV union member who did mine for a little time, before I wised up and got into tree trimming instead. It's more dangerous, but because of accidents. Not guaranteed illnesses from doing it as a career (besides the usual physical stress illnesses inherent in all hard labor)
as a former finance major, i cannot tell you how much stock buybacks bother me. it really is just a mechanism through which the executives and shareholders can artificially inflate their stock prices for their own benefit. this is the problem with fucking market capitalism, dude: its so fucking short-sighted. the ceo who jacks the stock price up just wants to look good for that fiscal quarter, that fiscal year. the next year has to be better than the last one, no matter what kind of fuckery you have to pull to make it that way.
HEY VAUSH! Your biggest strengths are your intellect, your humor, & the way you’re able to connect with your audience. You are able to explain your points so clearly & in terms we ALL understand while keeping us laughing. Your laugh happens to be infectious too just fyi. Just be an alpha who’s calm, cool & collected, speak to the audience as much as possible & let that intellect & humor shine! You got this!!! 💪🏼
I had a phone for years before I had to replace it, it seemed as though it had randomly acting up (leading to the replacement). Pressing the screen would open apps or type multiple letters (some of which were not near the letter pressed), voice command stopped working effectively. It got me suspicious of real quick. I would not be surprised if planned obsolescence happens with phones.
Apple is notorious for this. Their batteries are designed to deteriorate and in some of their phones you cant replace the battery so the whole phone has to be replaced
Ok, yeah. Charlie is unsufferable. I cannot fathom why someone would listen to him regularly, seeing that it's so difficult to comprehend what the hell he's arguing if you aren't already familiar with right wing talking points, and he's just so obnoxious to listen to
Didn't Texas's electrical grid fail miserably and cause death from freezing temperatures in 2021? All of it due to deregulation. Texans experienced enormous energy bills at the time too.
Not to mention that Brownback VETO'D EXPANDED MEDICAID. Insane. I work at a hospital and help patients who can't afford medication sign up for programs that get them medication for free. These are old folks. The amount of hoops they have to jump though to get medication they need to LIVE is insane. And the amount of times I've gotten a referral to help someone with Medicaid applications and its like.... this person is paycheck to paycheck but they're not 65 and over, not legally disabled, not a parent. They don't qualify. Having no money isn't enough to qualify for help. Insane. Brownback damn near ruined Kansas and now we're still desperately trying to claw back. Kelly is STILL trying to get expanded Medicaid, and these fucks are like "no one cares about Medicaid" when THE MAJORITY OF KANSANS WANT EXPANDED MEDICAID. I know this comment is two years old but I work in Healthcare in Kansas and it's just... infuriating.
My prediction: the core fallout of the upcoming debate will probably be from Charlie digging up already fairly public dirt about you to tie some of your core positions(some of which would be very new to his viewers) to your problematic past on an emotional level so that they're easier to discredit going forward.
@@ArtDutch This is going to sound wishy washy, but I'm not sure yet really, but I know it's 'there', at least to the limited extent that my attention to the subject allows, and I still watch some of his content. For me the bulk of how that plays out is that I feel apprehensive about recommending his channel to anyone I know even with regard to some of his more solid content just because I don't feel like explaining how he "already publicly apologized for the creepy discord stuff", and tbh I don't even remember where the pedo accusations come from or any details about it but I remember thinking it seemed fake? Some of the weight of those accusations on my opinion of him is countered by his fundraiser for the Palestinian charity, though. At the end of the day though I'm just some fucking guy
Vaush forgot to mention that regulations opens up an entirely new industry. Safer products generally take more processing or more materials or at least more designing. That means lots more jobs for creating and maintaining that new technology. It's how green energy already employs more far people than fossil fuels in the US already while only being a fraction of the energy production right now. And most of the jobs are way better and higher paying than most fossil fuel jobs. For example, solar alone has 300k jobs right now in the US. This beats out all fossil fuels combined. Coal makes up 70k... natural gas 100k, oil 11k.
August 3rd! Tim Pool! Charlie Kirk! Get hyped. 😏
⏱ Timestamps!
0:00 Intro
1:29 Debate Starts
4:22 Starting a Different Video
9:11 Food Stamps
14:14 Sam Talking Over Charlie
18:47 Charlie Getting Angry
20:45 Old Man Shouting at Cloud
25:15 “California & New York are Dying”
31:00 Charlie Kirk’s Greatest Debate Power
34:40 Foxconn
38:12 Stock Buy Backs
44:34 Wealth Inequality
47:57 Data & Graphs on Coal
52:22 Clean Water Act
56:14 Regulations
1:00:51 Phoebus Cartel
1:04:48 Community Banks
1:09:18 “What Sam Should Do Here”
1:14:36 CHARLIE CAN’T ANSWER
1:20:08 Charlie… Sam is Capitalism Too & Banks
1:33:18 Wrapping Up
Do you know the time of day when Vaush will be debating Charlie?
@@reasonableperson6259 Not yet! It was in the evening last time.
@@testoftempest Ok
This is like onine politics superbowl
Damn I have a therapy appt that day lmfao
Sam Seder is an og. They stopped inviting him on news programs because he just brutalized righties with jokes. His War on Christmas interview still has one of the strongest openers I've seen. Also bring Sam Seder to Beanieland
Sneak attack - "Oh no! Sam Seder! What a fucken nightmare!"
"Oh, you have Intel? Where did the Intel come from?"
"Well, we tortured some elves.."
Funny, I thought they stopped inviting him because he made a career out of being a liar.
“We’ve tortured an elf” - Sam Seder
@@jesspavlichenko5745 I can’t believe I was blessed enough to see that video. Perhaps the Lord truly is real 🙏
Charlie Kirk: “California bad, Texas good!”
Crowd: cheers and applause
Charlie Kirk: Lib place bad. Con place good
Audience: 👏👏👏
I always thought Texas was awful. I call it the Florida of the west.
Also Charlie Kirk: rails against property taxes
Not knowing that Texas has higher property taxes than New York and California.
Turns out having no state income tax means you just extract taxes another (and more unequal) way.
But Texas good cause I can LARP as a cowboy pew pew
Texas: 35th highest per capita income in 50 state + DC ranking.
California: 9th highest per capita income in 50 state + DC ranking.
Charlie: Oh yeah well 35 is, objectively speaking, a higher number than 9, so therefore, and I rest my case here, checkmate libtardz.
Tbh, the more people that move to Texas from California the better, we don’t want them here
I swear, Charlie Kirk's face shrinks everytime he lies.
@@macmcskullface1004 It is
That's constipation from all the bullshit inside him
I’ve been listening for 20 minutes and Charlie’s has told at least 8 lies.
His face would disappear if this were the case lol. Too bad it isnt really happening, i would love for his mouth to clam up forever
FYI, on Sam’s own debate review, he discussed mic management- he expected Kirk to overrun him, so he used a hand mic instead of lapel mic. Kirk’s trick is to hold the mic further away during setup, then draw it closer to out-gain his opponent.
Yeah everyone should go watch his review of it, shit like this is why Sam is underrated. He can basically predict Kirk's talking points to a tee
also at 1:12:19 you can see sam mouth "fannie mae". He legit knows the talking points before charlie says them
@@jackgalloway2124 I didn't notice that at first, but that is hilarious
@@jackgalloway2124 1:12:19 winds the video right after he mouths it (at least in my device). 1:12:17 shows it better
@@driveasandwich6734 I agree. Thanks for pointing that out
Love that Sam does more than just regular debate prep. When they asked if he wanted a handheld or clip mic he asked what Charlie has. That way he can match whatever he needs optically but also Charlie uses handhelds because he can yell into them and out compete a clip on mic etc
Then at the beginning of the debate 5:45 he contextualizes Charlie's econ stats by referencing the dynamic of turning one microphone up from 5 to 8 while turning up another from 5 to 12. He knew he was subtly calling Charlie out and getting in his head.
@@JBostonDoodle or just saying hey, you can interrupt me when I'm wrong. Charlie was in a box right then.
Wait I dont understand, how does he gain an advantage from this?
@@Ellipsis115 from the mic or the "I get to interrupt you if you're wrong" portion?
“Let’s compare the failed state of California with Texas”?? This did not age well, given Texas’s failed power grid situation. A prime example of the free-market at work.
It was a once in a hundred year incident upon which they had no control over. Meanwhile in most parts of california electricity goes off every day for a considerable amt of time while texas is completely back to normal. That's free market for u.
@@sayakroy9070 Texas normally has around 1200 unplanned outages? Texas normally avoids preparedness for known issues that have caused problems in the past? Texas sounds great.
@@sayakroy9070 and this summer the Texas government has told people not to use electricity because it’s too hot
@@sayakroy9070 I want to read your response to the two replies you’ve gotten, or do you agree with them after rebutting you?
@@sayakroy9070 Where does the electricity go off every day in California? No one I know who lives here has experienced that problem.
Sam is incredible. Holy shit. The certainty and simplicity .. And he is talking to the audience. Notice how Kirk looks weak trying to talk to Sam
His BDE (Big Dad Energy) certainly helps get his point across.
Because anyone who is remotely experienced debating people who argue in bad faith, whether they're on the left or the right, knows that they're never going to change the mind of the person they're debating. So the goal becomes presenting your case to the audience instead. If you can convince them you're right, you win.
@@gingerlicious3500 that's always been what scheduled debates are about. The only time debating 8s meant to change someone's mind is if it's a debate held between two personal acquaintances or friends debating offline between just the two of them. Debating on a stage or show is always about having the audience agree with you not the opponent.
Sam's got a great look that he gives when he's listening to people say dumb things in debates. It's like a half-amused grin. Perfect.
"to become rich you have to have a really good idea and people have to keep buying it. No exploitation"
Yeah and the goods magically appeared. No underpaid workers who work 10x harder than their bosses who take in 10x the wage
100 to 1000× the wage*
@@jidk6565 true
@@jidk6565 The average CEO to worker pay ratio is something like 300 to 1 isn’t it?
@@kylestyyle987 used to be 30 to 1 ... 50 years back
Or have a very rich daddy like Charlie
I guess the issue with debating somebody like Charlie Kirk is he is literally just lying, so quickly and frequently without being checked. How do you deal with that? You're literally stuck playing janitor to a trash monster.
This is well put; it takes twice the amount of time to debunk a quick false statement than to make said statement too.
The tricky thing is that you have to state the right facts and then portray your opponent as stupid or uninformed to believe their own lies. Easiest way to do so is with a joke at their expense
I legit laughed out loud with the 'failed state of California' bit. Like, yeah, they've got a ton of problems needing solutions, but that goes for every state.
At least he didn't call it commifornia. You know, because neoliberals are communists now
@@flashthompson6566 Commifornia, where the state can't raise property taxes without a legislative supermajority
But isn't California's economy booming? I would think Charlie Kirk would consider this a success, him being a venture capitalist and all. When he talks about the national economy, he touts the GDP, etc and ignores the systemic problems. When he talks about California, he ignores the economy and focuses on the systemic problems all because it's a liberal state.
When its about the US: The American free market invented Google and Microsoft, the Transistor and Hollywood!
When it's about California: Fucking un-American communist hellhole.
@@Aboertmann Charlie Kirk has zero principles. He's a mouthpiece for dark conservative money no matter the cost. He doesn't give a shit about actual people.
I've lived in Texas all my life and I'd rather not the whole country be like this deregulated, non-union, Bible-thumping crapfest. I'll be leaving as soon as my responsibilities allow me to do so.
Hang in there until the opportunity comes 😔
I’m so excited that Vaush is gonna debate Charlie, I hope he gets a lot of clout from it he deserves it
@@foxjade8924 fair enough but it’s still a good thing that he’s debating more popular people
@@foxjade8924 Meh, he destroyed Tim Pool the last time he was on his show and got some of his fans to watch his live streams.
He'll be the reason why Charlie will then say "debating left wingers is a waste of time" after he's proven to not actually know anything beyond just his blind, nationalist cheerleading and occasionally racist snark.
@@foxjade8924 You don't do these debates just to convince the rusted-on right wingers because that's very unlikely, you primarily do it to look good rhetorically so the undecided, outsiders, bystanders etc might be convinced. If Vaush can get clips out of this where he makes a solid point against Tim and Charlie and you can get them triggered, that clip will be seen by people who will see it's a bad look for them. It's not as important as on-the-ground activism but unironically, rhetorical efficacy online that makes right wingers look inconsistent and weak can really sway people. You'd be shocked how many people have their positions moved by optical wins.
@@nackskott12 Most right-wingers are only right-wing because they've seen people like Ben Shapiro and Steven Crowder get optical wins. It's why those types are so focused on arguing with people who are inexperienced in politics and debates. Charlie seems to be an exception, he debates people who do know what they're talking about and how to talk about it (like Sam Seder in this particular debate, someone who terrifies Steven Crowder).
Sam's anger comes off as "I'm tired of this nonsense." You can pull that off.
Ah, this reminds me of when Cold Feet crowder ran away from Sam Seder. Good times... Good times...
You're going to have to be more specific, which time are you referring to? He's run away so much.
@@Eveliane My bad. The most recent one (unless I missed something). The H3 podcast one.
SAM SEDER?! WHAT A FUCKING NIGHTMARE!
Nobody watched Sam Seder
@@horacioelconserjeopina3956 "Nobody watched Sam Seder" Literally nobody? I can personally say: you are provably wrong. What else are you wrong about?
This is why reality has a Left leaning bias, conservatives need to LARP (Live Action Role Play) a fantasy. I know I'm winning, you have to play pretend. You can't argue against me with something real. Team sports politics, eh?
Your imagination feels lose to my reals. But try again. Don't run away. I watched Cold Feet crowder run away from Sam Seder. Be better. Don't be like Cold Feet crowder.
I remember Sam Seder reviewing this debate- he was floored that Kirk had no idea what Glass Steagall or Dodd Frank were, but pretended to know anyway.
I'm glad you're spending so much time preparing for this. I feel like this is different from the debates you usually do and I think it's kind of important you do well.
Yeah, this dude's organization had a president speak at their events multiple times. This is pretty big
So kirk thinks the tax cuts should have been met with spending cuts, but is completely unwilling to criticize Trump increasing the military budget by nearly a trillion dollars?
Yes
"I disagree with that."
-Chuckie Kirk, nowhere to be found when he should have lambasted Trump right there and then for everyone to see.
The people that say things like "California is a failed state." and "People are fleeing California in droves, and talk about it like it's this third world hellscape know absolutely nothing about California or have ever been there. It could be an axiom at this point.
also, it's funny that all of a sudden, homelessness is such a major issue when they can use it to bash a blue state. Don't get me wrong, I do think california needs to do a lot to fix its homelessness problem. But it can't do it by going in the direction charlie kirk wants to take it.
I'm from New Jersey, trust me I know how you feel. The amount of shit they say about us on the opposite coat is sad. And yet life here is pretty damn good. Our taxes are stupid high but the trade-off is our public services are pretty awesome. We got mostly great schools which right off the bat is nice and our kids aren't super dummies, so with just that I feel justified in paying my state taxes.
@@rishabhanand4973 California has such a great homeless population because it is the best place to be homeless. The climate is solid, not too hot, not too cold, and the people are willing to help. I wholeheartedly agree with California needing to fix its homelessness issue, but that begins with enhanced mental health services and affordable housing.
@@mychalevenson7710 i agree. and that ain't the type of shit charlie would be on board with.
California is a pool of toxicity and child pedophilial
i'm not optimistic about vaush's chances here. a 3v1 is asking for Pool, Kirk and the lady to completely overrun him with crazy dumbfuck conspiracy theories without giving him an opportunity to talk or debunk anything they're saying. he'll have to prepare for this one
Language and tone is also important and not on his side since his opponent will be framing the questions and audience expectations
"I'm not locked in here with you" time
I hate to say it, but if you could trust him not to go all anti-leftist, Destiny would be a good teammate. Enemy of my enemy. But I wouldn't trust him to not go all "the left is too woke!" Granted, I've never seen his opinion on the CRT discussion, but I'm willing to bet I'm more right than wrong
@@flashthompson6566 Actually Destiny is quite pro 'woke-ness' when it comes to social issues like CRT, LGBTQ stuff and whatnot. It's the lefty understanding of economics (or according to him, lack of understanding of economics) and the position of anti-capitalism which he opposes and attacks the left on for the most part.
@@axoltl1 I'll give you the benefit of the doubt on believing that, but after his "I'm blocking all the transgenders on Twitter" arc, I'm highly skeptical
Am i the only one that cant look at Charlie Kirk with a straight face? I SWEAR hes an Oblivion character in slightly higher resolution, all his facial expressions would fit right in.
OMG... I will never see him the same again
i can never tell the difference between a photoshopped charlie kirk photo and an un photoshopped one
Oh no! Sam Seder! What a f***ing nightmare!
The Kirk v Seder debate is legit one of the best political debates I’ve seen and was the thing that really turned me on to Sam. Sam used actual in depth policy knowledge to expose Kirk as the empty husk he is. Kirk obviously only has surface level talking points and will ALWAYS try to pivot towards them, as evidenced by him being incredibly broad and vague about the “hundreds of regulations” Trump repealed, of which Kirk couldn’t name or identify the function of one. Everything always boils down to “liberals and regulation bad, conservatives and deregulation good.” Even when holding such a binary position leads to obvious inconsistency, he will NEVER concede an inch that regulation can do good (unless of course when he’s engaging in doublethink about big tech). The fact that Sam actually knew what he was talking about was able to cut through the mindless buzzwords Kirk was spouting and made him look like a fool.
The thing is, Charlie is speaking to Sam but Sam is appealing to the audience, that’s actually genius tbh
Remember the room was full of Kirk's supporters, and that's why what Sam did is even better.
Sam always talks about his goal is not to convince the guy he is debating. It is all about getting through to a part of their audience.
@@sandboxplayerz667 isn't that the whole point of debates like in debate team that was the whole idea
@Connor McConnell on a debate team its more to convince 1 - 3 judges, and there isn't an audience until you are at the national level.
@@StopItGarrison well the judge in a formal debate is the audience
@@connormcconnell7805 I'm gay. And I eat poo.
Can't wait to see this! Vaush is the one who opened my eyes too Tim Pools grift the first time he was on Timcast IRL.. I'm now on the left
At 6:00 Sam talks about Charlie's mic volume inequality. He was referencing Charlie's debate with Hasan who got a collar mic, but Charlie kept pulling his handheld mic up close so he could increase his volume. It was very effective and relevant to what you'll be dealing with. At the beginning of this debate, the staffers asked Sam what kind of mic he'd like, and Sam said "I'll have what he's having."
As an econ uni student, it warms my heart to hear vaush accurately describe econ phenomenon like externalities and moral hazards. Props to him for also defending the field of economics itself. I've often wondered why leftists usually don't take the time to try to fully educate themselves on how securities markets work bc there is a LOT to criticize.
"The middle class is a uniquely American concept" 😢😢😢
He’s technically right, usually it’s just owner class and working class.
@@theparker3759 the rest of the world uses middle class too, what the fuck? do you think the rest of the world runs on marxian terminology? middle class, if anything, is uniquely inappropriate for usa, where the middle class is becoming less and less common
@@lusteraliaszero That isn't what he's talking about...............
@@brandonfreeman6517 then what's he talking about? because the statement is wrong on its face
The term was originated in ENGLAND. It is a distinctly European word and concept that was transferred to the New World via English settlers, and throughout the world the same way. It existed before Marx, and it existed before the US. How the FUCK could the middle class be a uniquely American anything? I don't know or care what he meant. What he *said* was nonsense.
Charlie: I think you come to your positions very thoughtfully
Sam: me too
Why is Vaush walking into the the lion's den for a battle hosted by a wolf? His opponent isn't the problem -- an elephant can beat a lion any day. Vaush knows how to keep his cool & plot out his talking points. But he MUST insist on a neutral moderator FFS. And is this gonna be live?
Because it's a famous rare lion that's worth the risk to say he engaged with
I think the topic is more of a problem than the moderator. Critical race theory would be the last thing I'd want to debate.
Debate bro on hard mode maybe?
@@peoples2296 That's why it's so important for somebody to do so
I disagree. I think Pool is going to play nice because he cares about the longevity of his channel. If he comes across as "fair" to both sides, this will help in the long run far, far, far better than the short-term gains he might get from being an unfair jacka$$.
I can't WAIT for this debate
Now we know why Steven Crowder is so scared of Sam Seder.
Vaush: "Now remember, the goal here is to analyze how Charlie Kirk behaves, not necessarily the back and forth of the points"
...a literal 60 seconds later...
Also Vaush: _picks apart Charlie Kirk's arguments_
It's impossible not to. Refuting right wing bullshit is like scratching an itch, you just reflexively do it without really thinking about it.
16:28 "if they got rich... they took a risk, employed a bunch of people had to buy a building.... employed an extraordinary amount of people..." -Charlie Kirk
😂
WHO has money for that much up-front investment? I don't think Charlie Kirk knows how poor people start businesses.
charlie's just thinking about how he did it with his dad's money
He doesn’t realize corporations pay intelligent people to have good ideas that they can profit off of. It’s so mind numbing to hear him talk about his 5 year old conception of a capitalist society.
I'M DYING IS THIS ACTUALLY HOW CHARLIE THINKS BANKS WORK
"'CHARLIE THINKS'' - that's funny.
Note: When Charlie tried to reach out & put his hands on Sam, Sam immediately swerved out of the way & continued to speak, denying Charlie the chance to take control, leaving him looking like a beta.
Sam Seder looks like Clark Kent? Well, he is Jewish and kind of a superhero, checks out.
He’s Superman only when he’s in the vicinity of Steven Crowder. And frankly, I wanna see more of Sam Superman
I think he looks like a young(er) Noam Chomsky.
@@vsmith1688 I thought you said “he looks younger than Noam Chomsky” at first and I almost peed
@@vsmith1688 I thought you said “he looks younger than Noam Chomsky” at first and I almost peed
@@senatorsheevpalpatine3712 😂😂😂
It's so weird and surreal that Cassandra Fairbanks is at this level that she's being talked about be either popular or up and coming streamers or podcasters. I met her once in 2014, when she claimed to be a libertarian socialist and was working for a go nowhere, indie journalist outlet in my county.
She had a leftist activist friend who I also met who I am still friends with to this day. That friend was also working as a journalist but for a popular radio station local to my country. About a year or two when Cassandra claimed to switch from the left to the right, me and Cassandra's friend disavowed her simultaneously. It's just weird that a partisan hack hypocrite thatI use to know has reached this level of fame and has former personal friends that are current friends of mine.
Was she sane back then? I seem to remember a very steep drop-off into unhingedness from her.
@@theowlsarefun That's what I'm saying. When I met her she was very socially anxious and couldn't seem to pull it together enough to rub two intellectual brain cells together. It's therfore weird to me that she ever got this far.
I don't think she was ever a sincere leftist. I think she just latches onto whatevers trendy without giving it much thought
Love that boomer moment. "I know you were in high school at the time, so trust me."
Actually he's Gen X
@@Top_Weeb doesn't mean it's not a boomer moment. I'm GenX myself and have plenty.
The "righteous fury" bit mostly comes from being able to not stutter too much while mad along with emphasis on "hard" words. "DOUBLED the deficit", "it used to be called Stock Manipulation" things like that. Words that help get the specifics of WHY you're mad across. Also not mentioning your opponent as much, when you show anger that is directed at arguments and backed by facts rather than like whining that your opponent did something it comes across as something to be genuinely angry about. That's not to say dont mention your opponent but show why their argument should make people angry and then demand they respond
This observation brought to you by 6 years of acting classes
Anybody else getting the Trump "I'm suing big tech" ads? Remember, clicking on it and letting it play all the way out costs him in even more money!
"the fail-state of california" coming from the fail-son charlie kirk
STAY CALM. THAT IS LITERALLY ALL YOU HAVE TO DO. Charlie will get angry at the drop of a hat, and if you can pull that out of him while chilling out? Instant win.
Said it once, I'll say it again: Sam Seder looks like young chomsky.
The funny thing is light bulbs breaking is 100% manufactured. Light bulbs in the 1800's could run forever, the technology to make them never break existed.
If your light bulb breaks, it's planned obselecence. The longest burning light bulb that has never been turned off is in an old fire station, it has been on since the 1880's
Turning lights off and on is what kills it
Only because that bulb has been kept on. Heating and cooling shrinks and expands the material
Imagine a world where you couldn't debunk every single conservative talking point by googling their data
I feel like Charlie Kirk just throws out a bunch of random statistics and talks really fast but nothing he says actually refutes anything Sam said at all and if asked to elaborate on anything specific that he said he would probably have no idea what he’s talking about
Holy crap his voice just gets faster and faster
Chugga chugga chugga
Chugga chugga chugga
The 1.5 speed doesn't help
Who else is reminded of Michael Brooks' impression of Sam wanting to debate when they watch this video?
RIP
I mean, unironically Destiny would be the only one I can think of with the skill
Alas, Destiny is deep in his "completely insane and bad faith" arc.
David pakman?
@@kurtwinkelman7924 David Pakman is honestly very good at debates, he keeps his cool.. and, he’s pretty focused.
I’m pretty sure Sam Seder could do a good job. If he’s good enough to make Steven “Change my mind” Crowder run away from debating him for years on end, then he might just be at that level.
I think dPak, Seder, or even hasan would be good. You need numbers as long as they won’t completely fumble the bag.
Next you should review the Jesse Lee Peterson vs Kyle Kulinski “debate”
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Vaush went on JLP's show. It went exactly the same as all the others there. JLP musters up all his brainpower and asks hilariously incoherent nonsense questions, and doesn't engage in the slightest with any response.
@@davajita I watched Hasan on JLP and it was infuriatingly boring because JLP acted like a total zombie and never engaged on a single topic. Discussions require two people participating, but JLP's brain is running on 1GB RAM.
California also weren’t on their own energy which caused people to freeze to death this winter.
And he said Florida… a 3rd world country.
Really appreciate your perspectives in this crazy time we live in. I would go as far as to say you are a role model and trailblazer in the media space you occupy right now. It’s impressive that you have as many wins as you do, and you’re still willing to be introspective and improve.
Keep doing you.
I wish you the best of luck with your debate.
I'm actually verrry nervous for Vaush. Ik it was earlier on in his Career but that first debate with sargon of akkad he kinda lost it, ik he has a lot more expirence from that but still, im hecka nervous.
this video didn't help my confidence. He was getting hype, and he's not even IN the debate. Debate prep should include keeping his cool, he needs to practice that the most.
I think you're right. Vaush is very unwise to enter into a debate with that kind of unequal footing.
Pretty harsh to be worried about that in particular considering how early that was, destroying Sargon the next time he spoke to him and how patient he is with insufferable, straight-up Nazis and their circular verbal coprophilia.
Check out his "debate" with that Canadian Nazi; I would have had an aneurysm from that shambles.
@@TSmith-yy3cc I don't think people are trying to be mean to Vaush, like. It's more about the uneven footing of the debate, and it would be difficult for anyone to come across well in that situation. I haven't seen any debates with that kind of footing since the first Sargon one.
I don't think you loose a debate for being a "triggered leftie" when you're opponents are elitist/facist/racists. I think only irredeemable loosers would watch that and not also be pissed off
I live in florida, can confirm 1 out of 5 stars, do not recommend.
His Foxconn example didnt age well...
I, do, remember my dad being angry about lightbulbs when I was in high school. He declared to always use incandescent lightbulbs because something bout government tyranny.
Trump claimed they are why he looks orange. So, at least your dad understood how light refraction, reflection, and absorbtion work. Or he just doesn't look orange. IDK your dad.
Fun fact: Sam Seder is both Hugo Habercore and Harold Cranwinkle in Bobs Burgers
Just ask JD Rockefeller how competition works without regulations and anti-trust laws
Rule no.1, never say "I agree." That's often all that wingnuts will take away from the discussion.
"I agree but-"
CLIPPED AND SHIPPED. LADIES AND GENTLEMEN, WE GOT HIM.
You can say I agree when they compliment you, or when they step into a verbal trap. Such as, "I think you are very thoughtful..." "Thank you, I agree." Or, "Maybe we should eliminate all big banks." "Absolutely, I agree." They simply cannot clip that enough that the burn won't follow.
We all know the only one that could fight it out effectively with vaush in a 3v2 would be Destiny
Destiny has permanently burned the bridge with Vaush, so thats sadly not happening.
That would be glorious...
@@Johnny-mp2ew AND DESTINY IS COMING WITH THE STEEL CHAIR
I am coming from the future. I saw clips from the Vaush vs Charlie debate and I'm new to Vaush but have been a lurker on the left many other places. Vaush straight up DESTORYS Charlie after this little bit of prep. Please do it again, and aim for a bigger target next time Vaush. I subscribed immediately. You rocked it dude.
Listen to Sam Seder's own analysis of this as well; it's well worth it imho.
As someone in WI, the foxconn deal has been a disaster to follow.
OH YES THIS IS WHAT I SUBBED FOR
Kronk (Cronk?) voice:
_"Oh yeah. It's all coming together."_
1:36 though 1:42
Ok, ok, I’m glad me and my boyfriend aren’t the only ones who think that Sam Seder’s a total DILF. ❤️ But objectifications aside, I love Sam Seder. Totally based and a great debater. Looking forward to the debate on the 3rd.
Sam Seder is way too hot, I don't get it
@@weilandcock I'm 60, and don't get it either. I love his hair, facial expressions, especially the wiggly eyebrows, his intelligence and skepticism, yet optimism too. Gee, I just don't know...
all this debate prep and I feel like Charlie folded like what I never do with my laundry.
GOP PLAYBOOK 101
Section: Skip the Chapter
The presenter will ONLY highlight the moment of a policy when enacted, painting a rosy illustration, while ignoring the policy’s aftermath.
Ex: When the Kansas tax cuts happened, the economy soared. [Omission: until the state had to create tax increases to make up the financial harm from the Brownbach tax cuts.]
@@andersondalmeus1406 DON'T LOOK INTO HIS EYES!
@@andersondalmeus1406 Never heard of this Sam Seder guy before, but he seems like kind of a nightmare.
Sam can/would debate anyone on the right and destroy them. Change my Mind.
59:00 The lightbulb thing is like the origin of planned obsolescence in the US
Sam and the moderators face is priceless after Kirk's "failed state of Cali." comment
Yeah homeless and millionaires leaving a states is not failure it’s just annoying
Kirk has no balls. All you need to do is 1) be factual, 2) rattle off actual stats, and 3) don’t let him talk, he won’t even try
Gotta exude the cranky inner-boomer and talk as the instructor.
Is Cocaine Charlie going to be on the call?
Kirk's special debate power is the ability to lie confidently with a straight face
It's not a straight face...it's just too fucked up already for anyone to see the difference when he lies.
Small* face.
Lol, didn’t know this was gonna be a 3 v 1 debate, hopefully this doesn’t devolve into Killstream (but if it does, then Vaush, no tactical N-words this time homie)
At 7:58, Kirk says “…of course, only 50% of Americans are middle class…”.
Whoops, someone flunked math class in elementary school.
Oh nooo! Kirk says “higher than likelihood chance” again at 17:01. C’mon Charlie, you have lots of new terms to use now, champ.
yeah wells fargo was started in like the 1800s.... how do you compete with a bank that has over a 100 years old. who's going to go to fred's bank?! 5 points to those that know the reference.
You'll have to brute force to make him engage with your arguments.
Sam: Actually, what you just said is blatantly false and anyone with a phone can check for themselves and see.
Charlie: FULL STEAM AHEAD! CHOO-CHOOOOOOOOOOO!!!
Vaush is like a sports commentator replaying the highlights of a game. He's like John Madden when he used to circle shit in replays. 😂
Light bulbs had a higher life span in 1920 than today.
Cell phones
Of course, same with the automobile industry producing cars that were built to last.. now it’s about pushing products that have short shelf life in order to continue gaining profit. It’s crazy.
So, Charlie's tactics are gish galloping. That's it
I think the most upsetting thing about this entire debate is how Charlie Kirk holds his microphone.
We use coal in carbon and steel products too so jobs will fall then level out after we stop burning it for power.
Automation and strip mining killed coal jobs, not regulations. They ain't coming back, no matter what we do. I say this as a third generation WV union member who did mine for a little time, before I wised up and got into tree trimming instead. It's more dangerous, but because of accidents. Not guaranteed illnesses from doing it as a career (besides the usual physical stress illnesses inherent in all hard labor)
as a former finance major, i cannot tell you how much stock buybacks bother me. it really is just a mechanism through which the executives and shareholders can artificially inflate their stock prices for their own benefit.
this is the problem with fucking market capitalism, dude: its so fucking short-sighted. the ceo who jacks the stock price up just wants to look good for that fiscal quarter, that fiscal year. the next year has to be better than the last one, no matter what kind of fuckery you have to pull to make it that way.
HEY VAUSH! Your biggest strengths are your intellect, your humor, & the way you’re able to connect with your audience. You are able to explain your points so clearly & in terms we ALL understand while keeping us laughing. Your laugh happens to be infectious too just fyi.
Just be an alpha who’s calm, cool & collected, speak to the audience as much as possible & let that intellect & humor shine! You got this!!! 💪🏼
I had a phone for years before I had to replace it, it seemed as though it had randomly acting up (leading to the replacement). Pressing the screen would open apps or type multiple letters (some of which were not near the letter pressed), voice command stopped working effectively. It got me suspicious of real quick. I would not be surprised if planned obsolescence happens with phones.
Apple is notorious for this. Their batteries are designed to deteriorate and in some of their phones you cant replace the battery so the whole phone has to be replaced
Love that Charlie is toting the Foxconn deal here when it ended up being a complete and total scam lmao
Ok, yeah. Charlie is unsufferable. I cannot fathom why someone would listen to him regularly, seeing that it's so difficult to comprehend what the hell he's arguing if you aren't already familiar with right wing talking points, and he's just so obnoxious to listen to
It's wild how these grifters have fans; between him, Poole, Shapiro and Crowder it's a sad state of affairs.
Didn't Texas's electrical grid fail miserably and cause death from freezing temperatures in 2021? All of it due to deregulation. Texans experienced enormous energy bills at the time too.
I’m glad Sam spoke about Kansas and Sam Brownback. He ruined our state and we’re still dealing with the repercussions of his fiscal disaster.
Not to mention that Brownback VETO'D EXPANDED MEDICAID.
Insane. I work at a hospital and help patients who can't afford medication sign up for programs that get them medication for free. These are old folks. The amount of hoops they have to jump though to get medication they need to LIVE is insane.
And the amount of times I've gotten a referral to help someone with Medicaid applications and its like.... this person is paycheck to paycheck but they're not 65 and over, not legally disabled, not a parent. They don't qualify. Having no money isn't enough to qualify for help.
Insane. Brownback damn near ruined Kansas and now we're still desperately trying to claw back. Kelly is STILL trying to get expanded Medicaid, and these fucks are like "no one cares about Medicaid" when THE MAJORITY OF KANSANS WANT EXPANDED MEDICAID.
I know this comment is two years old but I work in Healthcare in Kansas and it's just... infuriating.
Holy fuck, this smooth brained audience just claps for the big numbers. "Wages up" *applause* "Inflation up more" *applause*
My prediction: the core fallout of the upcoming debate will probably be from Charlie digging up already fairly public dirt about you to tie some of your core positions(some of which would be very new to his viewers) to your problematic past on an emotional level so that they're easier to discredit going forward.
@@ArtDutch This is going to sound wishy washy, but I'm not sure yet really, but I know it's 'there', at least to the limited extent that my attention to the subject allows, and I still watch some of his content. For me the bulk of how that plays out is that I feel apprehensive about recommending his channel to anyone I know even with regard to some of his more solid content just because I don't feel like explaining how he "already publicly apologized for the creepy discord stuff", and tbh I don't even remember where the pedo accusations come from or any details about it but I remember thinking it seemed fake? Some of the weight of those accusations on my opinion of him is countered by his fundraiser for the Palestinian charity, though.
At the end of the day though I'm just some fucking guy
....and yet, last night's debate ended up being quite an enjoyable and productive dialogue more than anything else. Kudos.
Sam is such an absolute chad. What a hero.
Vaush forgot to mention that regulations opens up an entirely new industry. Safer products generally take more processing or more materials or at least more designing. That means lots more jobs for creating and maintaining that new technology.
It's how green energy already employs more far people than fossil fuels in the US already while only being a fraction of the energy production right now. And most of the jobs are way better and higher paying than most fossil fuel jobs. For example, solar alone has 300k jobs right now in the US. This beats out all fossil fuels combined. Coal makes up 70k... natural gas 100k, oil 11k.
Never forget that Sam will always have an upper hand because he has a background in comedy
Love how Charlie’s reponse to being btfod on stock buybacks is “well what about co-ops which i hate?”
I love that Charlie's argument at 1:23:00 was just "the market created a monopoly"
Dude sam seder is fucking terrifyingly good at debate
Stock buy backs is like controlling the flow of diamonds to make them scarcer to up the price. That's how I see it anyways.