We have these at work and use them 5 days a week. They’ve never gave us problems. The only problem is when they get older the white plastic coating comes off and the fiber glass gets in your skin
When properly maintained, those Stihl 4 mix leaf blowers have a nice pleasant sound. A 4 mix engine is actually 4 stroke engine that runs on a gasoline and 2 stroke oil mix.
My used abused br420 i bought worked good with the aftermarket carburetor on it before the flywheel broke its about to get alot more off brand parts because thats all i can find for it that is new not used parts
I don't believe so on what type of gas used in them its the people not taking care of the blowers and keeping dust and dirt cleaned out from them like the 2003 model one i have was never took care of well the person used it and used it but never cleaned it out any from what i could see So the owner's fuck them up from not doing any maintenance on them i would say look at the used one i bought but i have no video about it on here then you'd see Im really thinking about just put a whole new cylinder head on mine the piston is perfect. because the muffler screws will not come out so it'll get that and a new muffler after thats all done ill add up how much ive spent on fixing it back up to working condition then ill see how much i saved from not buying a brand new blower i know they couldn't cost $50.00 what i paid for my used one
now its up to 4. I went to Canada about 35 years ago on a motorcycle was there from mid July to Mid August. The Canadian people were super friendly and referred to the USA as "the lower 48" like we were all one country. DO NOT use an impact wrench to take the fan off, can break the flywheel which has a non replaceable woodruff key. I used a 2 ft 1/2 breaker bar with another 2 foot of lead pipe.
*My br600 and br430 are both leaking oil around the bottom engine pan and niether will run properly. What do you charge for an engine reseal on these blowers or what should I expect to pay for this job? I've heard it consists of removing the engine from the blower to be able to remove the engine pan and re seal it with gasket maker and replace the crankshaft seals. Thanks in advance.*
Hey bud excellent video 👍. I'm on my second Stihl blower. I've had problems with both of them. I will never buy another one the only reason I even bought them is because they were super cheap. Personally I'm a fan of echo. I've had the same echo blower for 10 years. Thanks again
@@adamlipscomb6459 i hear a ton of people saying the echo units are better than these stihls im kinda wondering if they really are because the old used br420 i bought did work for awhile then lost spark because the flywheel magnet broke and cracked plus it needs a head gasket so its not hard to take apart or put back together for me its not I just wished that stihl and poulan sold replacement parts for they're older units they don't and i have to try a off brand flywheel that might and might not work i wont know until i try it out
@@Mike-su8si Stihl is less reliable because there are infinitely more parts to the engine. The engines are more sensitive to poor mix ratios and are much much more time consuming to repair. Echo blower engine replacement, you're looking at 20-30 minutes. Stihl you're looking at an hour on the low end.
If you run the BR series blowers without the tip it causes less back pressure doesn't cool the engine properly therefore it overheats and the wrist pin seizes up still voided my warranty because I brought it in without the tip
Damn, I just bought the same one this last fall. After I did a landscaper buddy told me I made a mistake, he says stihl chainsaws, and red max blowers.
+BleepinJeep with the 4 mix engines its key you stay on top of setting your valves, I think it's about every 100 hours and de-carbonizing the motor so you don't drop a valve. I've been told also that redmax blowers are the way to go
If you make the mistake of buying this blower, the easiest way to take off that fan is to shove some thick string into the sparkplug slot which will block the piston from moving. Had trouble with that process myself.
you need to get a 1/4 impact driver, best tool for any repetitive jobs with 1000 screws. i have the snap on and the milwaukee m12 both with with 1/4 anvil which i think is better for mechanics than the 1/4 bit driver style. the snap on is actually preferable to me because the trigger rocks forward/reverse so no stopping and switching is required, just use your index or middle finger for forward/reverse.... get one... you'll be made up
I bought a br700 new 3 seasons later valve broke where the retainer holds it, on inspection lots of rubber debris in crank and under piston looks like excess rtv from factory contaminated engine and blocked oiling capability
I bought one that looked brand new. Sold it for 4 times what I paid for it. When you see a pile of them and they all have the same problem why would you ever own one. My br400 still runs strong on the other hand after 20 years.
@@OTAlucard i do still like the older br400 and 430 and the 420 models but my old br420 needs a flywheel and they only sell off brand flywheels and i don't think the fan is gonna fit on it just right without adding washers to the off brand flywheel I would like to buy the name brand stihl flywheel
My uncle had the same problem with his 7 yr old br 600 the wrist pin broke and destroyed the engine had to buy a new one. I have a 2019 br600 so I can only hope the same dosent happen to me
@@davideden8569 Been working on most everything since the 60's myself. Was Master Certified in Heavy Truck and Automotive. The 4-mix motor, which is a 4 stroke engine uses valves instead of the old reed valve system and is quite ingenious as far as small engines are concerned.
Good video. I'm about to buy one of those tomorrow. A br500 model for $35. Saw a brand new thread posted 4hours ago on Craigslist, so I had to get ahold of the person quick as I could. Guy says it doesn't work. So looks like I'm guna have some fun tomorrow night!
@@GrantsDad It looks like you don't have a clue of what your talking about Stihl 4mix are junk work repairing them there internals are junk now Echo internals are superior and way better built do your homework homeboy before giving out stupid comments Top of the game right now is Echo and redmax
we never have problems with these at work we have over 20 if guys aren't using the stihl mix you're fucked then we have 13 of SR units too i love them alot
fierrosoft you’d probably say the same thing about bmw but believe it or not just because you can’t afford something doesn’t always mean it’s overpriced crap
Not a 2stroke with valves lol , it’s a 4 stroke engine on a 2 stroke sump , fueled every 2nd revolution instead of every revolution as in a 2 stroke , stupid idea . The small end seizes for the lack of Lubrication , then the piston breaks up . I wouldn’t have one in a gift, why not use a simple 2 stroke engine
Judging by the color of the fuel and how you mention that the owner said it was siezed you can tell that failure was due to the owner for not properly using the correct mixed fuel ratio. In other words you cant fix stupid!
It’s Tru Fuel, it’s PREMIXED ethanol free fuel. It comes pink, there are thousands of positive reviews on it and most companies now offer some sort of deal if you buy it with their equipment. They could have bought a 40:1 mix instead of a 50:1 though. It actually burns cleaner and better but you’re going to pay for it. As well there’s no reason to drain the carb for winterization because the fuel will last up to 2 years in the tank and not degrade like normal pump premix unless you use Stabil.
@@evictioncarpentry2628 I can’t speak for the Aspen brand because I’ve never tried it, but the pre mix fuel I’m referencing “TruFuel” has thousands of reviews at 5 stars. As well, Husqvarna and Stihl make their own that have been highly rated. The only complaint I’ve heard about is the pricing and that depends on your usage. If you use 5-10 gallons of gas a year, only buy it for storage. I rarely see 2 gallons a year, so it’s not worth keeping around a bunch of gas, 2 cycle oil and Stabil. Having my equipment start and run like new whenever I want is worth double the price in my opinion.
@ 2:19...this is not a "2 stroke" engine.. IT IS A "4 STROKE", called a "4 MIX" it does use a 50 to 1 gas to 2 stroke oil mix, but is not i repeat NOT a 2 stroke.. cheers! nice vid otherwise :-)
Don't fix that crap have these blowers at work they suck! Heavy run like crap and the kill switch is a bad design always shut it of on accident just a pain in the ass!
Dont ship to Canada? It's not you guys are a 3rd world country up there. Stihl seems to be no fun when looking for parts outside of a dealer. You need to move to the states and basque in Trumps glory and all the ebay you can handle. Oh and that mill is tits. looking forward to the vids on that.
We have these at work and use them 5 days a week. They’ve never gave us problems. The only problem is when they get older the white plastic coating comes off and the fiber glass gets in your skin
When properly maintained, those Stihl 4 mix leaf blowers have a nice pleasant sound. A 4 mix engine is actually 4 stroke engine that runs on a gasoline and 2 stroke oil mix.
Maybe in your opinion. I think their "Tinny sound" is terrible. Husqvana sounds more Throaty.
My used abused br420 i bought worked good with the aftermarket carburetor on it before the flywheel broke its about to get alot more off brand parts because thats all i can find for it that is new not used parts
Using low quality oil or running 87 octane or both, is what contributes to their demise. It's usually poor or no maintenance.
I don't believe so on what type of gas used in them its the people not taking care of the blowers and keeping dust and dirt cleaned out from them like the 2003 model one i have was never took care of well the person used it and used it but never cleaned it out any from what i could see
So the owner's fuck them up from not doing any maintenance on them i would say look at the used one i bought but i have no video about it on here then you'd see
Im really thinking about just put a whole new cylinder head on mine the piston is perfect. because the muffler screws will not come out so it'll get that and a new muffler after thats all done ill add up how much ive spent on fixing it back up to working condition then ill see how much i saved from not buying a brand new blower i know they couldn't cost $50.00 what i paid for my used one
now its up to 4. I went to Canada about 35 years ago on a motorcycle was there from mid July to Mid August. The Canadian people were super friendly and referred to the USA as "the lower 48" like we were all one country. DO NOT use an impact wrench to take the fan off, can break the flywheel which has a non replaceable woodruff key. I used a 2 ft 1/2 breaker bar with another 2 foot of lead pipe.
*My br600 and br430 are both leaking oil around the bottom engine pan and niether will run properly. What do you charge for an engine reseal on these blowers or what should I expect to pay for this job? I've heard it consists of removing the engine from the blower to be able to remove the engine pan and re seal it with gasket maker and replace the crankshaft seals. Thanks in advance.*
Ill be lucky to find those parts you might have to pay alot because they don't sell replacement parts for those blowers
Hey bud excellent video 👍. I'm on my second Stihl blower. I've had problems with both of them. I will never buy another one the only reason I even bought them is because they were super cheap. Personally I'm a fan of echo. I've had the same echo blower for 10 years. Thanks again
I like the Echo products better. They are easy to fix on your owen.then stihl
They seem Complicated to fix
@@adamlipscomb6459 i hear a ton of people saying the echo units are better than these stihls im kinda wondering if they really are because the old used br420 i bought did work for awhile then lost spark because the flywheel magnet broke and cracked plus it needs a head gasket so its not hard to take apart or put back together for me its not
I just wished that stihl and poulan sold replacement parts for they're older units they don't and i have to try a off brand flywheel that might and might not work i wont know until i try it out
@@Mike-su8si Stihl is less reliable because there are infinitely more parts to the engine. The engines are more sensitive to poor mix ratios and are much much more time consuming to repair. Echo blower engine replacement, you're looking at 20-30 minutes. Stihl you're looking at an hour on the low end.
If you run the BR series blowers without the tip it causes less back pressure doesn't cool the engine properly therefore it overheats and the wrist pin seizes up still voided my warranty because I brought it in without the tip
That goes for any blower.
It's not a two stroke engine that has valves. It's a 4mix which is a 4 stroke engine that runs and lubricates on 2 cycle mix.
Why do many folks find that so hard to understand, folks?
Damn, I just bought the same one this last fall. After I did a landscaper buddy told me I made a mistake, he says stihl chainsaws, and red max blowers.
+BleepinJeep with the 4 mix engines its key you stay on top of setting your valves, I think it's about every 100 hours and de-carbonizing the motor so you don't drop a valve. I've been told also that redmax blowers are the way to go
10 years doing lawn care. Redmax blowers and trimmers. Stihl chainsaws 😉
Redmax blower did not come with an adjustable carb before. Do they now?
Its hard to believe someone went through all the trouble to put it back together.
ya no doubt
MIX 2 STROKE OIL AND GAS CORRECTLY. THIS WHAT HAPPENS WHEN PEOPLE DON'T TAKE CARE OF STUFF 😲🤔
If you make the mistake of buying this blower, the easiest way to take off that fan is to shove some thick string into the sparkplug slot which will block the piston from moving. Had trouble with that process myself.
They make a tool for like $10
you need to get a 1/4 impact driver, best tool for any repetitive jobs with 1000 screws. i have the snap on and the milwaukee m12 both with with 1/4 anvil which i think is better for mechanics than the 1/4 bit driver style. the snap on is actually preferable to me because the trigger rocks forward/reverse so no stopping and switching is required, just use your index or middle finger for forward/reverse.... get one... you'll be made up
My first backpack blower was a sthil 600 I did some math mine blew up around 300 hours of use got my money’s worth
I bought a br700 new 3 seasons later valve broke where the retainer holds it, on inspection lots of rubber debris in crank and under piston looks like excess rtv from factory contaminated engine and blocked oiling capability
I bought one that looked brand new. Sold it for 4 times what I paid for it. When you see a pile of them and they all have the same problem why would you ever own one.
My br400 still runs strong on the other hand after 20 years.
Wait til it needs a flywheel you wont find a brand name one only off brand and you'll wonder will it work
@@Mike-su8si br600 or br400 ? I've seen a lot of broken br430 and 600 flywheels
@@OTAlucard a old br420
@@OTAlucard i do still like the older br400 and 430 and the 420 models but my old br420 needs a flywheel and they only sell off brand flywheels and i don't think the fan is gonna fit on it just right without adding washers to the off brand flywheel
I would like to buy the name brand stihl flywheel
Thanks this was a great helping me sort mine out .
Seen a BR600 drop a valve and it got stuck in the top of the piston.
My uncle had the same problem with his 7 yr old br 600 the wrist pin broke and destroyed the engine had to buy a new one. I have a 2019 br600 so I can only hope the same dosent happen to me
4-cycle engines in small equipment will never take over the power and dependability of 2-cycle.
More horsepower that goes for fourwheelers as well.
Where can I buy a new engine for a BR600 mag?
New it would be the dealer but at that point you may as well just buy a new machine. I got my engine used off eBay
E bay
I saw a brand new engine for 279.or 379.
I end up buying 10 blowers every year because we don’t do any maintenance
Thanks for this video
What oil do u use
A two stroke with valves?! Never heard of a thing like that
It’s a interesting design that’s for sure
@@TestDontguess its not a 2 stroke, its a 4 stroke lubricated by mix fuel
It is a 4-mix engine...
It's called a 4 mix it is a 4 cycle engine lubricated with the fuel . Been working on small engines for 45 plus years.
@@davideden8569 Been working on most everything since the 60's myself. Was Master Certified in Heavy Truck and Automotive. The 4-mix motor, which is a 4 stroke engine uses valves instead of the old reed valve system and is quite ingenious as far as small engines are concerned.
Amazing, thank you for this video. Your a genius
4 stroke engine that uses 2 stroke pre mix, thus a 4 mix. Great blower.
there are 2 stroke diesel engines with super chargers ( EMD LOCOMOTIVES)
I love my snap on 3/8” impact
Good video. I'm about to buy one of those tomorrow. A br500 model for $35. Saw a brand new thread posted 4hours ago on Craigslist, so I had to get ahold of the person quick as I could. Guy says it doesn't work. So looks like I'm guna have some fun tomorrow night!
I got 2 of these as curb finds, one has compression the other does not. I usually only take curb finds if they have compression.
They are great motors if you keep up with the valve timing
You still have them? I will buy them from you
the engine need oild? and if so huw much
50:1 same as any 2 stroke
Looks like a brand new one
These are not good blowers. I got about 100 hours on my BR600 before crankshaft bearing failure.
Why don't you hone out the cyclinder
Awesome video,i can’t take the impeller
There junk had 2 of those with the same issue this will never happen to a echo blower.
If you kept up with the valve adjustment they will run for ever.
No comparison Echo is on top of the game
fierrosoft stihl and redmax/husqvarna are definitely top of the game they are like Milwaukee and dewalt where as echo is like ryobi
@@GrantsDad It looks like you don't have a clue of what your talking about Stihl 4mix are junk work repairing them there internals are junk now Echo internals are superior and way better built do your homework homeboy before giving out stupid comments Top of the game right now is Echo and redmax
lol. maybe you do have to remove the recoil...
great video quality and helpful info
its 4 stroke with valves. runs on mix
Mine seized after about 18 hours of service...
Finally! I've found a normal person on UA-cam that doesn't wear those pussy latex gloves.
I get those in the shop all the time.
+Bruce McLachlan oh yeah problems with the valves not being set and the engine going boom ?
How much for the feeler gauge from Stihl
+Bruce McLachlan it was like 2 dollars
we never have problems with these at work we have over 20 if guys aren't using the stihl mix you're fucked then we have 13 of SR units too i love them alot
Blower not working start spark plug oil
Over engineered and a pain to work on just like anything else that is German engineered.
Stihl is made in America
Stihl over priced crap nothing else
fierrosoft you’d probably say the same thing about bmw but believe it or not just because you can’t afford something doesn’t always mean it’s overpriced crap
Good vid! Thanks
Not a 2stroke with valves lol , it’s a 4 stroke engine on a 2 stroke sump , fueled every 2nd revolution instead of every revolution as in a 2 stroke , stupid idea . The small end seizes for the lack of Lubrication , then the piston breaks up .
I wouldn’t have one in a gift, why not use a simple 2 stroke engine
Judging by the color of the fuel and how you mention that the owner said it was siezed you can tell that failure was due to the owner for not properly using the correct mixed fuel ratio. In other words you cant fix stupid!
It’s Tru Fuel, it’s PREMIXED ethanol free fuel. It comes pink, there are thousands of positive reviews on it and most companies now offer some sort of deal if you buy it with their equipment. They could have bought a 40:1 mix instead of a 50:1 though. It actually burns cleaner and better but you’re going to pay for it. As well there’s no reason to drain the carb for winterization because the fuel will last up to 2 years in the tank and not degrade like normal pump premix unless you use Stabil.
@@Slaypalm those pre mix fuel like Aspen run like garbage and are about 10x more expensive then mixing.
@@evictioncarpentry2628 I can’t speak for the Aspen brand because I’ve never tried it, but the pre mix fuel I’m referencing “TruFuel” has thousands of reviews at 5 stars. As well, Husqvarna and Stihl make their own that have been highly rated.
The only complaint I’ve heard about is the pricing and that depends on your usage. If you use 5-10 gallons of gas a year, only buy it for storage. I rarely see 2 gallons a year, so it’s not worth keeping around a bunch of gas, 2 cycle oil and Stabil. Having my equipment start and run like new whenever I want is worth double the price in my opinion.
U wood think they wood make it easier to get the motor out
Trashed!
@ 2:19...this is not a "2 stroke" engine.. IT IS A "4 STROKE", called a "4 MIX" it does use a 50 to 1 gas to 2 stroke oil mix, but is not i repeat NOT a 2 stroke.. cheers! nice vid otherwise :-)
Don't fix that crap have these blowers at work they suck! Heavy run like crap and the kill switch is a bad design always shut it of on accident just a pain in the ass!
NIce video. I would have enjoyed it more if your bench was absoloutely clean, and you took your time haha - great video though mate - excellent.
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What a waste thing is brand new.
this is why you keep up to date on making sure the valves or set to avoid this
Avoid stihl equipment problem solved
.....Who cheat's you with this crap? ......
no doubt
Dont ship to Canada? It's not you guys are a 3rd world country up there. Stihl seems to be no fun when looking for parts outside of a dealer. You need to move to the states and basque in Trumps glory and all the ebay you can handle. Oh and that mill is tits. looking forward to the vids on that.
it would be a great time to live in America, I can wait until the purge happens when the silent Majority stands up and takes out all the liberals
Haha, yeah the purge seems to be getting closer and closer to reality.