I ordered it some days ago. I couldn't choose between the od green and brown. I prefer being less noticable in the woods. The camo was too military for my taste. I also thought about buying the older light border patrol predecessor since it's a little cheaper but it lacks the webbing. Recently I realized that brown performs very well with camo maybe even more so than od green. I looked around at my bags and noticed that every single backpack I have is od green. I opted for the brown color this time. I hope I can get to use it a lot since this is very costly for a broke student like me.
I’ve had this pack for a few years now. Added an admin, canteen and dump pouch. Love it, only gripe is I wish you could get in the top from the outside. The camo looks good
It's perfect SHTF bag. You should search for the Savotta adverts here on UA-cam. They have a post apocalypse dude in the videos. Really funny and clever advertising 😊
Owned a Särmä TST CP10, would choose between Jaakari S or M if I want a good top loader. Really hope Jaakari S has a side zip for easy access to the main compartment so I can both overload and find stuff easily.
Hi S Y. I have the Särmä TST CP15. Such a great pack. Savotta and Varusteleka have a serious winner on their hands there. The side zip on the S would be cool however not sure how it would work with the roll top and the zip integrity... Unless it didn't go all the way.
Thanks Dan. It's the Helikon Tex Mistral anorak. Had it a few weeks not to test out and loving it. Very similar to the Woodsman anorak but designed to be lighter
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Not a cheap one but it is not a lost money Nice review
Oooooo what a lovely pack. The camo pattern is bang on. I agree simplicity yet top drawer execution. Thought it might of made the ‘iconic’ collection?! Agree with the others, the mistral looks a nice top. Hard to see the colour, was it od green? Great review 👍
Check the Varusteleka site. They have some amazing kit in the M05 camo. I think my top three camos have to be M05, multicam tropic and desert night camo. Very cool
@@MoorlanderEDC 4 your Finnish M05 Woodland Camo Savotta Jaakari M (Medium) Bag/Pack here's some of a Loadout I highly recommend going with just 2 try 2 help get ya somewhat better prepared 4 just about virtually anything & everything! 1 (U.S.A, North America) Vanquest Tough-Built Gear Prepper's Color-Coding Kit M05 Woodland Camo Exterior Loadout Note due 2 Color Scheme of Bag/Pack itself best attach/lash either something Adaptive Green from Helikon-Tex, something RAL 7013, something Solid Colored Grassy Olive Drab Wilderness Green, something Solid Color Brown, something Solid Colored Black or something Solid Colored Foliage like/Wolf like Gray/Grey on2 the Bottom underneath all Pockets! Starting Loop Velcro Panel 4 a certain Pocket/Pouch attached on2 the Exterior Note 4 all Pockets/Pouches attached on2 the Exterior due 2 Color Scheme of Bag/Pack best be mixture of either M81 Woodland, Neon Green, RAL 7013 & Grassy Olive Drab Wilderness Green or Solid Color Brown, M81 Woodland, Solid Color Black/Solid Color Foliage like/Wolf like Gray/Grey, Neon Green & Solid Color Grassy Olive Drab Wilderness Green! In between all Front MOLLE/PALS webbing of Zentauron Quadro GP Pouch 1 (U.S.A, North America) Whiskey Two Four loopanywhere 2.0 Black, Coyote Brown, M81 Woodland, Ranger Green or Wolf Grey Velcro Patches Note due 2 Color Scheme of Bag/Pack itself best go with mixture of either M05 Woodland Patches (patchpanel.ca or tacticalfreaky.com)/M81 Woodland with RAL 7013 (Brown Grey/Solution Dyed Ranger Green/Stone Grey Olive) Patches & Solid Color Grassy Olive Drab Wilderness like Green Patches or M05 Woodland Patches/M81 Woodland Patches with Solid Color Black Patches/Solid Color Foliage like/Wolf like Gray/Grey Patches, Solid Color Brown Patches & Solid Color Grassy Olive Drab Wilderness like Green Patches! MOLLE Pouch Attachment Replacement Accessories Note best be mixture of Black/Foliage like/Wolf like Gray/Grey, Brown & Olive Drab! M05 Woodland Camo Attachment Pouches Note MOLLE only since there's absolutely zero M05 Woodland Camo A.L.I.C.E. Pouches! MOLLE Hip Belt Note even if size Info 4 Templar's Gear SAW200 Machine Gun Magazine Pouch Gen. 2 & Zentauron Quadro GP Pouch isn't 100% accurate/correct/precise at least it's still pretty darn close enough in a way! Accessory/GP (General Purpose)/Utility 1 (Poland, Europe) Templar's Gear SAW200 Machine Gun Magazine Pouch Gen. 2 29 cm (11") High/Long x 18 cm (7") Wide x 8 cm (3") Deep M05 attached on2 Right Side or Left Side £38.07 Note en.tradehard.fi! 1 (Germany, Europe) Zentauron Quadro GP Pouch 0.75 Litres Capacity 12 cm (5") Wide x 12 cm (5") High x 6 cm (2") Deep M05 Woodland attached on2 Right Side or Left Side €27.00 Note www.zentauron.de! Main Compartment Open Flap Note even if size Info 4 Zentauron Digital Admin Pouch isn't 100% accurate/correct/precise at least it's still pretty darn close enough in a way! Admin Note best customly fill up with Admin Gear in these categories that fit size of Pouch itself: Knive(s) / Multi Tool(s), Lighting / Lamp(s) / Torch(s), Keyholder, Navigation, Cell Phone / Radio Communications & Various Others! 1 (Germany, Europe) Zentauron Digital Admin Pouch 18.5 cm (7") Wide x 10.5 cm (4") High x 3 cm (1") Deep/Diameter Standard or 18.5 cm (7") Wide x 10.5 cm (4") High x 9 cm (4") Deep/Diameter Large M05 Woodland Camo €59.50 - €64.00 Note www.zentauron.de! Sides Dump/Accessory/GP (General Purpose)/Utility 1 each (Estonia/Finland, Europe) Särmä TST XL General Purpose Pouch 4.85 Litres Capacity 10" x 6.5" x 4.5" M05 Woodland attached on2 Right Side & Left Side £44.03 Note www.varusteleka.com! Bottom Front Note even if size Info 4 Templar's Gear Rip-Off First Aid Pouch & Savotta Mini Utility Pouch isn't 100% accurate/correct/precise at least it's still pretty darn close enough in a way! Medical Note best 2 always have a full backup Medical Kit (Box/Pouch/Dry Bag) either stored inside or attached on2 exterior of Pack itself customly fill filled up with Medical Supplies in these categories that fit size of Medical Storage itself (Box/Pouch/Dry Bag) just in case your Main/Original/Primary Medical Kit (Box/Pouch/Dry Bag) run empty/low on supplies or something happens 2 it such as it disappears/goes missing/vanishes right underneath your noses/gets destroyed: Wound Care / Burn / Blister, Severe Bleeding & Meds (Medication/Pills) plus if ya don't have a full backup/2nd Medical Kit at the ready whether stored inside or attached on2 exterior of Pack(s) you as well as whoever you're with are in major/serious trouble no matter where y'all are at! 1 (Poland, Europe) Templar's Gear Rip-Off First Aid Pouch 14 cm (6") Wide x 18 cm (7") High/Long x 7 cm (3") Deep when fully packed M05 Woodland attached on2 Middle Bottom £57.59 Note en.tradehard.fi! Accessory/GP (General Purpose)/Utility 1 (Estonia/Finland, Europe) Savotta Mini Utility Pouch 12 cm (5") High x 10 cm (4") Wide x 6 cm (2") Deep/Diameter M05 Woodland attached on2 the Middle Top £19.25 Note varuste.net!
@@MoorlanderEDC Here's rest of the Loop Velcro Panels I highly recommend 4 certain M05 Woodland Camo MOLLE Pouches attached on2 your M05 Woodland Camo Savotta Jaakari M (Medium) Backpack 4 ya 2 choose from Open Flap top of Templar's Gear SAW200 Machine Gun Magazine Pouch Gen. 2 1 (U.S.A, North America) Whiskey Two Four LOOP 1.5" Wide Milspec Black, Coyote Brown, Ranger Green or Wolf Grey or 1 (U.S.A, North America) Hook and Loop DuraGrip Brand - 1.5" Beige (Khaki), Brown (Regular), Coyote Tan, Dark Gray (Blackish Charcoal), Foliage Green, Light Gray, Neon Green or Olive Drab Loop Sew-On Lower Front body of Templar's Gear SAW200 Machine Gun Magazine Pouch Gen. 2 1 (U.S.A, North America) Whiskey Two Four LOOP 3" Wide Ranger Green, Wolf Grey, M81 Woodland Camo Printed Loop 4" Wide or 1 (U.S.A, North America) Hook and Loop DuraGrip Brand - 3" Black Loop Sew-On, DuraGrip Brand - 2" Beige, Brown (Regular), Coyote Brown, Coyote Tan, Dark Gray (Blackish Charcoal), Foliage Green, Light Gray (Foliage like), Neon Green, Olive Drab Loop Sew-On Open Flap top of both Särmä TST XL General Purpose Pouches 1 each (U.S.A, North America) Whiskey Two Four LOOP 1.5" Wide Milspec Black, Coyote Brown, Ranger Green or Wolf Grey or 1 each (U.S.A, North America) Hook and Loop DuraGrip Brand - 1.5" Beige, Brown (Regular), Coyote Tan, Dark Gray, Foliage Green, Light Gray, Neon Green or Olive Drab Loop Sew-On Both Bottom Right Side & Bottom Left Side of both Särmä TST XL General Purpose Pouches 2 each (U.S.A, North America) Whiskey Two Four LOOP 2" Wide Milspec Black, Coyote Brown, Ranger Green or Wolf Grey or 2 (U.S.A, North America) Hook and Loop DuraGrip Brand - 2" Beige, Brown (Regular), Coyote Tan, Dark Gray, Foliage Green, Light Gray, Neon Green or Olive Drab Loop Sew-On Open Flap top of Savotta Mini Utility Pouch 1 (U.S.A, North America) Whiskey Two Four LOOP 1" Wide Milspec Black, Coyote Brown, Ranger Green or Wolf Grey or 1 (U.S.A, North America) Hook and Loop DuraGrip Brand - 1" Beige, Brown (Regular), Coyote Tan, Dark Gray, Foliage Green, Light Gray, Neon Green or Olive Drab Loop Sew-On Lower Front body of Savotta Mini Utility Pouch 1 (U.S.A, North America) Whiskey Two Four LOOP 1" Wide Milspec Black, Coyote Brown, Ranger Green or Wolf Grey or 1 (U.S.A, North America) Hook and Loop DuraGrip Brand - 1" Beige, Brown (Regular), Coyote Tan, Dark Gray, Foliage Green, Light Gray, Neon Green or Olive Drab Loop Sew-On
Lovely video, thank you! I'm on the fence between this and the S. This is just 7 cm taller than the S and 1 cm deeper. Can you help me decide with 2 questions: 1) The floating lid allows overpacking, but does it allow "underpacking"? The M seems just too big for my EDC, as you note here. However sometimes I travel for a week or more and could use the space. Could you tell me how much can it be actually strapped down? I'd love a comparison in size between the S and a M fully strapped down... The M has the zip and the side drop pockets that the S lacks. Neither is a deal breaker, but pretty convenient to have. I plan to buy 2 6L side pouches anyways. But I would rather have more flexibility than less. It all boils down to size. This pack must be small enough that it does not feel like a pain to leave the house and board a plain with it. The S fits the bill, the M maybe, depending on how much I can strap it down. 2) the waist belt, or as I prefer to call it the waste belt, is unnecessary on 90% of my trips. There's nothing I hate more than stoving a pack on an overhead locker and getting the floppy belt stuck. In some pics on savotta website I've seen the belt being rolled out on itself and closed with what appears to be an elastic. Could you give it a try and let me know what it looks/feels like?
What's your thought on how many liters for a 2-3 day hike? Would this M size be enough or too small? I currently have the U.S. Military 3 day assault pack and that feels a little small.
Hi, sorry about the delay betting back to you. I guess it depends on how much you carry however you could definitely do a three day camp with it. I'd probably add some side pouches too
Hey buddy. It's the Helikon Tex Mistral anorak. Very similar to the Woodsman, but this uses the lighter VersaStretch material over the Duracanvas that the Woodsman uses. I've had a lot of questions about this to I'll make sure that the review content also features a comparison between the two as well Hope you're well and had a cracking weekend
Hi Clay, I hope you're well buddy. That's the Mistral Jacket from Helikon Tex (reviewed a few weeks back - ua-cam.com/video/_RCylluxwHA/v-deo.html) - You can get them on Amazon here - amzn.to/3Bs6sIr
Hi Hank. Thanks for the kind words brother. The top is the Mistral Anorak from Helikon Tex. Very similar to the Woodsman Anorak I reviewed a few years back. Should have some content online soon 👍
Great video I’m really thinking of buying one of these but I need more like 40 liters Does it expand or is 30 the max and I’d have to add side pouches I have a singi 28 l fjallraven and its just a bit too small for light overnighter for me
I think you'll be fine with the M and the side pouches. I think Savotta need an M+ in their line up. The jump up to 50ltrs with the L is a pretty big jump. If they introduced an M+ that would bridge the cap I think they'd sell well
ha ha ha... you are going in deep. Love it. You can fit your life pretty much in that pack. I've never tried the XL before however I have buddies that have and they highly rate it. If you're looking directly with Savotta also check out Varusteleka. They're one of Finland's largest outdoor online sites. They may have a different postage. They sent me this back and are a great company
Hi. Nice review as always. Good Pack but I prefer Pack`s with more compartiments. Hope to see a review from you in the future about some products from Hazard 4. But my question now is, please, can you give me the reference about the combat/sweat shirt you are wearing on this video and others? I have noticed at least 2 diferent ones, in olive green and caqui and I just want one for me🙂
Hi Paulo. I think there's definitely two camps. Minimal barrel pack like this or the newer technical packs with more options. The top is the Mistral Anorak from Helikon Tex. I already have the Woodsman Anorak and the Mistral is the same but different. Mistral is lighter, whereas the Woodsman is tougher and heavier, however the layout and feature are pretty much the same. I'm planning a comparison piece similar to the M65 video I made a few weeks back. Watch this space 🤜🤛
@@MoorlanderEDC thank you my friend. Completely agree with you about your opinion about the packs. It really depends on the mission or task the choose of the backpack and sometimes you just need space rather than organization or sometimes the opposite. Thank you for the tips about the top. Looking forward to see your review about the M65 comparison. Thank you for your work. By the way I have just bought the olight gobers thanks to you 😁
Now that's a proper head to head. Although they're similar bags on paper they're very different. The Savotta is a tank and it's strength is its simplicity. Whereas the Constrictor II has so many features for every possible occasion... And I haven't even mentioned the back panel. That thing is a work of art and makes it a joy to carry. I'll add the Constrictor II to the comparison vid I'll make. Savotta Jääkäri M, Tasmanian Tiger Mil Ops 30, Crib Gogh Constrictor II and the Osprey Archeon 30 👍
I own a crib gogh, Constrictor and a crib gogh mountain raptor i think their a awesome bit of kit, i do not suffer so much with my back pain as do with other bergens/rucksacks and that's my opinion only when i put a crib gogh on my body my spine hum's now, not screams on a medical side the Constrictor or the Mountain Raptor is my aide the others just don't cut it for me. Like i said this is my opinion i'm not trying to clash heads with you on this because I have never tried the other rucksacks that you have mentioned and the simple fact is i think you're a good streamer and I like your channel, so this is NOT a dig at you it's just Crib Gogh's design is music to my 53yr old lower hell on eath back pain. Sir have a good day and I love your channel and I will say this again this is not a dig at you all the best from the Brecon Beacons in South Wales, oh and hugs and kisses lol have a good 1
Ha ha ha ha... love it. Who doesn't love a friendly hug and kiss Lee 😆 I'm 100% with you buddy on the Crib Gogh back panel. Having seen the research they did with the Royal Collage of Nurses, and the level of testing they did the back padding is a gift from the Gods. I'd definitely never think you were trying to take a dig. It's awesome that we can have these opportunities to chat and talk about gear like this How are the Brecons doing? Have you been out adventuring recently? I managed to take a quick trip to North Wales last weekend to my Dad's neck of the woods to scatter his ashes. All my best fella
@@MoorlanderEDC Yes i got to my father's ashes up the Beacons 1 day and i'm glad you to your father's homeland to spread his ashes and no i wouldn't have a dig at you Sir life is too short for that crap because it was your channel which made me buy Crib Gogh in the beginning i.e the Constrictor 2 and i'm happy with both my rucksacks. And it's a pity that my home ground has lost a fellow Clan's man but at least he's back home, all the best Brecon Beacons
Hmmmm... That's a hard answer as they're both very different bags. On paper the Mission still wins (features and options) however that's not to say the Jääkäri is bad. When I get hold of the TT Mil Ops 30, that'll be the real battle of the best
@@MP-kr3mh ooooh... I think that's a bit harsh 😊. My experience with TT is it's always the highest quality. The Mission and the Jääkäri are both very different packs
@@MP-kr3mh Do you own both? I own the Tasmanian Tiger and the quality is way higher, than any backpack I ever had and I had some in that price range. I've also put it in real use and it took abuse like champ. Actually, I can't find a downside and I just wonder, why people throw that kind of money, on a Savotta, that is lacking so many that a bag like the Tas MKII has... and that's comfort too, which is huge for bags of that size and up.
@@MoorlanderEDCYou're right, I'm a man! I work for my money, I can buy what I want!!! Even if I use it twice and it sits in a tote in the basement with the 45 other bags I have that I barely use , at least I have it. It's the same argument we have when I want to buy a new gun, I'm sure you know what that's like 😁
I have been looking at this product, £ pricey , I will stick to Helikon as they have an aluminium internal frame similar to a Berghaus pack, nice review 👍 I do like the hip strap. Greetings from Mark over the hill from you in the High Peak.
@@MoorlanderEDC Hey it was a good vid, I'm still thinking about whether to get one of these or whether to opt for a cheaper and lighter model. Also don't take the pronunciation at face value, the Finnish umlaut vowels are tricky. Better to hear it from a Fin pronouncing it ;) The word itself is a " Finnification " of the german word Jäger.
@@Blastsniper Ha ha ha.. it's funny how far those German travelled and managed to slide there language into others. English is pretty much based on their old Germanic. The smaller one is great. Make sure to check out the Sarma TST CP15 from Varusteleka. I've made some content on both the smaller Savotta and Sarma packs. Stay well brother
I ordered it some days ago. I couldn't choose between the od green and brown. I prefer being less noticable in the woods. The camo was too military for my taste. I also thought about buying the older light border patrol predecessor since it's a little cheaper but it lacks the webbing. Recently I realized that brown performs very well with camo maybe even more so than od green. I looked around at my bags and noticed that every single backpack I have is od green. I opted for the brown color this time. I hope I can get to use it a lot since this is very costly for a broke student like me.
I might pick up one of their other packs in brown 🤙
Love the brown!
I’ve had this pack for a few years now. Added an admin, canteen and dump pouch. Love it, only gripe is I wish you could get in the top from the outside. The camo looks good
Lol, my type of rucksack 👍🔥🇬🇧. Great camouflage mi friend 👍.. Tc Andy
As I said it many moons ago, you will love this pack!
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Great job as always!
Thank you! Cheers Bill!
Nice size for a get home bag.Great video
It's perfect SHTF bag. You should search for the Savotta adverts here on UA-cam. They have a post apocalypse dude in the videos. Really funny and clever advertising 😊
Owned a Särmä TST CP10, would choose between Jaakari S or M if I want a good top loader.
Really hope Jaakari S has a side zip for easy access to the main compartment so I can both overload and find stuff easily.
Hi S Y. I have the Särmä TST CP15. Such a great pack. Savotta and Varusteleka have a serious winner on their hands there. The side zip on the S would be cool however not sure how it would work with the roll top and the zip integrity... Unless it didn't go all the way.
Very nice pack indeed got add it to collection 😂
Thanks. The L is on the way across the pond.
Thanks for the vid mate. I love this pack too. Wondering what anorak you are wearing looks like a good outer layer.
Thanks Dan. It's the Helikon Tex Mistral anorak. Had it a few weeks not to test out and loving it. Very similar to the Woodsman anorak but designed to be lighter
Not a cheap one but it is not a lost money
Nice review
Hi Raphael. Agree, the extra you pay for this really does make a difference. My great Grandchildren will still be able to use this pack
Great review champ 🤘🫡
Much appreciated
Oooooo what a lovely pack. The camo pattern is bang on. I agree simplicity yet top drawer execution. Thought it might of made the ‘iconic’ collection?!
Agree with the others, the mistral looks a nice top. Hard to see the colour, was it od green?
Great review 👍
Check the Varusteleka site. They have some amazing kit in the M05 camo. I think my top three camos have to be M05, multicam tropic and desert night camo. Very cool
@@MoorlanderEDC 4 your Finnish M05 Woodland Camo Savotta Jaakari M (Medium) Bag/Pack here's some of a Loadout I highly recommend going with just 2 try 2 help get ya somewhat better prepared 4 just about virtually anything & everything!
1 (U.S.A, North America) Vanquest Tough-Built Gear Prepper's Color-Coding Kit
M05 Woodland Camo Exterior Loadout Note due 2 Color Scheme of Bag/Pack itself best attach/lash either something Adaptive Green from Helikon-Tex, something RAL 7013, something Solid Colored Grassy Olive Drab Wilderness Green, something Solid Color Brown, something Solid Colored Black or something Solid Colored Foliage like/Wolf like Gray/Grey on2 the Bottom underneath all Pockets!
Starting Loop Velcro Panel 4 a certain Pocket/Pouch attached on2 the Exterior Note 4 all Pockets/Pouches attached on2 the Exterior due 2 Color Scheme of Bag/Pack best be mixture of either M81 Woodland, Neon Green, RAL 7013 & Grassy Olive Drab Wilderness Green or Solid Color
Brown, M81 Woodland, Solid Color Black/Solid Color Foliage like/Wolf like Gray/Grey, Neon Green & Solid Color Grassy Olive Drab Wilderness Green!
In between all Front MOLLE/PALS webbing of Zentauron Quadro GP Pouch
1 (U.S.A, North America) Whiskey Two Four loopanywhere 2.0 Black, Coyote Brown, M81 Woodland, Ranger Green or Wolf Grey
Velcro Patches Note due 2 Color Scheme of Bag/Pack itself best go with mixture of either M05 Woodland Patches (patchpanel.ca or tacticalfreaky.com)/M81 Woodland with RAL 7013
(Brown Grey/Solution Dyed Ranger Green/Stone Grey Olive) Patches & Solid Color Grassy Olive Drab Wilderness like Green Patches or M05 Woodland Patches/M81 Woodland Patches with Solid Color Black
Patches/Solid Color Foliage like/Wolf like Gray/Grey Patches, Solid Color Brown Patches & Solid Color Grassy Olive Drab Wilderness like Green Patches!
MOLLE Pouch Attachment Replacement Accessories Note best be mixture of Black/Foliage like/Wolf like Gray/Grey, Brown & Olive Drab!
M05 Woodland Camo Attachment Pouches Note MOLLE only since there's absolutely zero M05 Woodland Camo A.L.I.C.E. Pouches!
MOLLE Hip Belt Note even if size Info 4 Templar's Gear SAW200 Machine Gun Magazine Pouch Gen. 2 & Zentauron Quadro GP Pouch isn't 100% accurate/correct/precise at least it's still pretty darn close
enough in a way!
Accessory/GP (General Purpose)/Utility
1 (Poland, Europe) Templar's Gear SAW200 Machine Gun Magazine Pouch Gen. 2 29 cm (11") High/Long x 18 cm (7") Wide x 8 cm (3") Deep M05
attached on2 Right Side or Left Side £38.07 Note en.tradehard.fi!
1 (Germany, Europe) Zentauron Quadro GP Pouch 0.75 Litres Capacity 12 cm (5") Wide x 12 cm (5") High x 6 cm (2") Deep M05 Woodland
attached on2 Right Side or Left Side €27.00 Note www.zentauron.de!
Main Compartment Open Flap Note even if size Info 4 Zentauron Digital Admin Pouch isn't 100% accurate/correct/precise at least it's still pretty darn close enough in a way!
Admin Note best customly fill up with Admin Gear in these categories that fit size of Pouch itself: Knive(s) / Multi Tool(s), Lighting / Lamp(s) / Torch(s), Keyholder, Navigation, Cell Phone / Radio Communications & Various Others!
1 (Germany, Europe) Zentauron Digital Admin Pouch 18.5 cm (7") Wide x 10.5 cm (4") High x 3 cm (1") Deep/Diameter Standard or 18.5 cm (7") Wide x 10.5 cm (4") High x 9 cm (4") Deep/Diameter Large M05 Woodland Camo €59.50 - €64.00 Note www.zentauron.de!
Sides
Dump/Accessory/GP (General Purpose)/Utility
1 each (Estonia/Finland, Europe) Särmä TST XL General Purpose Pouch 4.85 Litres Capacity 10" x 6.5" x 4.5" M05 Woodland attached on2 Right Side & Left Side £44.03 Note www.varusteleka.com!
Bottom Front Note even if size Info 4 Templar's Gear Rip-Off First Aid Pouch & Savotta Mini Utility Pouch isn't 100% accurate/correct/precise at least it's still pretty darn close enough in a way!
Medical Note best 2 always have a full backup Medical Kit (Box/Pouch/Dry Bag) either stored inside or attached on2 exterior of Pack itself customly fill filled up with Medical Supplies in these
categories that fit size of Medical Storage itself (Box/Pouch/Dry Bag) just in case your Main/Original/Primary Medical Kit (Box/Pouch/Dry Bag) run empty/low on supplies or something happens 2 it
such as it disappears/goes missing/vanishes right underneath your noses/gets destroyed: Wound Care / Burn / Blister, Severe Bleeding & Meds (Medication/Pills) plus if ya don't have a full
backup/2nd Medical Kit at the ready whether stored inside or attached on2 exterior of Pack(s) you as well as whoever you're with are in major/serious trouble no matter where y'all are at!
1 (Poland, Europe) Templar's Gear Rip-Off First Aid Pouch 14 cm (6") Wide x 18 cm (7") High/Long x 7 cm (3") Deep when fully packed M05 Woodland
attached on2 Middle Bottom £57.59 Note en.tradehard.fi!
Accessory/GP (General Purpose)/Utility
1 (Estonia/Finland, Europe) Savotta Mini Utility Pouch 12 cm (5") High x 10 cm (4") Wide x 6 cm (2") Deep/Diameter M05 Woodland attached on2 the Middle Top £19.25 Note varuste.net!
@@MoorlanderEDC Here's rest of the Loop Velcro Panels I highly recommend 4 certain M05 Woodland Camo MOLLE Pouches attached on2 your M05 Woodland Camo Savotta Jaakari M (Medium) Backpack 4 ya 2 choose from
Open Flap top of Templar's Gear SAW200 Machine Gun Magazine Pouch Gen. 2
1 (U.S.A, North America) Whiskey Two Four LOOP 1.5" Wide Milspec Black, Coyote Brown, Ranger Green or Wolf Grey or 1 (U.S.A, North America) Hook and Loop DuraGrip Brand - 1.5" Beige (Khaki), Brown (Regular), Coyote Tan, Dark Gray (Blackish Charcoal), Foliage Green, Light Gray, Neon Green or Olive Drab Loop Sew-On
Lower Front body of Templar's Gear SAW200 Machine Gun Magazine Pouch Gen. 2
1 (U.S.A, North America) Whiskey Two Four LOOP 3" Wide Ranger Green, Wolf Grey, M81 Woodland Camo Printed Loop 4" Wide or 1 (U.S.A, North America) Hook and Loop DuraGrip Brand - 3" Black Loop Sew-On, DuraGrip
Brand - 2" Beige, Brown (Regular), Coyote Brown, Coyote Tan, Dark Gray (Blackish Charcoal), Foliage Green, Light Gray (Foliage like), Neon Green, Olive Drab Loop Sew-On
Open Flap top of both Särmä TST XL General Purpose Pouches
1 each (U.S.A, North America) Whiskey Two Four LOOP 1.5" Wide Milspec Black, Coyote Brown, Ranger Green or Wolf Grey or 1 each (U.S.A, North America) Hook and Loop DuraGrip Brand - 1.5" Beige, Brown (Regular), Coyote Tan, Dark Gray, Foliage Green, Light Gray, Neon Green or Olive Drab Loop Sew-On
Both Bottom Right Side & Bottom Left Side of both Särmä TST XL General Purpose Pouches
2 each (U.S.A, North America) Whiskey Two Four LOOP 2" Wide Milspec Black, Coyote Brown, Ranger Green or Wolf Grey or 2 (U.S.A, North America) Hook and Loop DuraGrip Brand - 2" Beige, Brown (Regular), Coyote Tan, Dark Gray, Foliage Green, Light Gray, Neon Green or Olive Drab Loop Sew-On
Open Flap top of Savotta Mini Utility Pouch
1 (U.S.A, North America) Whiskey Two Four LOOP 1" Wide Milspec Black, Coyote Brown, Ranger Green or Wolf Grey or 1 (U.S.A, North America) Hook and Loop DuraGrip Brand - 1" Beige, Brown (Regular), Coyote Tan, Dark Gray, Foliage Green, Light Gray, Neon Green or Olive Drab Loop Sew-On
Lower Front body of Savotta Mini Utility Pouch
1 (U.S.A, North America) Whiskey Two Four LOOP 1" Wide Milspec Black, Coyote Brown, Ranger Green or Wolf Grey or 1 (U.S.A, North America) Hook and Loop DuraGrip Brand - 1" Beige, Brown (Regular), Coyote Tan, Dark Gray, Foliage Green, Light Gray, Neon Green or Olive Drab Loop Sew-On
Lovely video, thank you! I'm on the fence between this and the S. This is just 7 cm taller than the S and 1 cm deeper. Can you help me decide with 2 questions:
1) The floating lid allows overpacking, but does it allow "underpacking"? The M seems just too big for my EDC, as you note here. However sometimes I travel for a week or more and could use the space. Could you tell me how much can it be actually strapped down? I'd love a comparison in size between the S and a M fully strapped down... The M has the zip and the side drop pockets that the S lacks. Neither is a deal breaker, but pretty convenient to have. I plan to buy 2 6L side pouches anyways. But I would rather have more flexibility than less. It all boils down to size. This pack must be small enough that it does not feel like a pain to leave the house and board a plain with it. The S fits the bill, the M maybe, depending on how much I can strap it down.
2) the waist belt, or as I prefer to call it the waste belt, is unnecessary on 90% of my trips. There's nothing I hate more than stoving a pack on an overhead locker and getting the floppy belt stuck. In some pics on savotta website I've seen the belt being rolled out on itself and closed with what appears to be an elastic. Could you give it a try and let me know what it looks/feels like?
What's your thought on how many liters for a 2-3 day hike? Would this M size be enough or too small? I currently have the U.S. Military 3 day assault pack and that feels a little small.
Hi, sorry about the delay betting back to you. I guess it depends on how much you carry however you could definitely do a three day camp with it. I'd probably add some side pouches too
Hey Moorlander,
What jacket / Anorak are you wearing here ?
Hey buddy. It's the Helikon Tex Mistral anorak. Very similar to the Woodsman, but this uses the lighter VersaStretch material over the Duracanvas that the Woodsman uses. I've had a lot of questions about this to I'll make sure that the review content also features a comparison between the two as well
Hope you're well and had a cracking weekend
Where can I get that sweatshirt that you're wearing? How do I get that? Can you send a link to me
Hi Clay, I hope you're well buddy. That's the Mistral Jacket from Helikon Tex (reviewed a few weeks back - ua-cam.com/video/_RCylluxwHA/v-deo.html) - You can get them on Amazon here - amzn.to/3Bs6sIr
Good review buddy, what is that top you are wearing, looks like a good top.
Hi Hank. Thanks for the kind words brother. The top is the Mistral Anorak from Helikon Tex. Very similar to the Woodsman Anorak I reviewed a few years back. Should have some content online soon 👍
I got the xl and 202
The L is the next one on my list. The M is perfect for my use however it's great to have that extra space. The jump up from the M to the L is massive
Great video I’m really thinking of buying one of these but I need more like 40 liters Does it expand or is 30 the max and I’d have to add side pouches I have a singi 28 l fjallraven and its just a bit too small for light overnighter for me
I think you'll be fine with the M and the side pouches. I think Savotta need an M+ in their line up. The jump up to 50ltrs with the L is a pretty big jump. If they introduced an M+ that would bridge the cap I think they'd sell well
I’m eyeballing the xl with the external frame but they are priced way high right now to get to the states
ha ha ha... you are going in deep. Love it. You can fit your life pretty much in that pack. I've never tried the XL before however I have buddies that have and they highly rate it. If you're looking directly with Savotta also check out Varusteleka. They're one of Finland's largest outdoor online sites. They may have a different postage. They sent me this back and are a great company
Thanks I think I’ll take your advice and go for the medium. The xl is $570 on varusteleka but the medium and large are not that bad.
Thanks again. I know you are a watch guy as well. Just saw en email for the new Casio rangeman. Let me know if you are going to review it
Hi. Nice review as always. Good Pack but I prefer Pack`s with more compartiments. Hope to see a review from you in the future about some products from Hazard 4. But my question now is, please, can you give me the reference about the combat/sweat shirt you are wearing on this video and others? I have noticed at least 2 diferent ones, in olive green and caqui and I just want one for me🙂
Hi Paulo. I think there's definitely two camps. Minimal barrel pack like this or the newer technical packs with more options. The top is the Mistral Anorak from Helikon Tex. I already have the Woodsman Anorak and the Mistral is the same but different. Mistral is lighter, whereas the Woodsman is tougher and heavier, however the layout and feature are pretty much the same. I'm planning a comparison piece similar to the M65 video I made a few weeks back. Watch this space 🤜🤛
@@MoorlanderEDC thank you my friend. Completely agree with you about your opinion about the packs. It really depends on the mission or task the choose of the backpack and sometimes you just need space rather than organization or sometimes the opposite. Thank you for the tips about the top. Looking forward to see your review about the M65 comparison. Thank you for your work. By the way I have just bought the olight gobers thanks to you 😁
You're in luck as the M65 jacket content is live - ua-cam.com/video/iKmNYSTuFcw/v-deo.html. Plus I'm also working on some H4 content
You can purchase side pockets and other bags for extra space. Mine has the medium side bags easy to put on and off.
What about the crib gogh, Constrictor 2 how do you rate these 2. Love the video keep up the good work.
Now that's a proper head to head. Although they're similar bags on paper they're very different. The Savotta is a tank and it's strength is its simplicity. Whereas the Constrictor II has so many features for every possible occasion... And I haven't even mentioned the back panel. That thing is a work of art and makes it a joy to carry. I'll add the Constrictor II to the comparison vid I'll make. Savotta Jääkäri M, Tasmanian Tiger Mil Ops 30, Crib Gogh Constrictor II and the Osprey Archeon 30 👍
I own a crib gogh, Constrictor and a crib gogh mountain raptor i think their a awesome bit of kit, i do not suffer so much with my back pain as do with other bergens/rucksacks and that's my opinion only when i put a crib gogh on my body my spine hum's now, not screams on a medical side the Constrictor or the Mountain Raptor is my aide the others just don't cut it for me. Like i said this is my opinion i'm not trying to clash heads with you on this because I have never tried the other rucksacks that you have mentioned and the simple fact is i think you're a good streamer and I like your channel, so this is NOT a dig at you it's just Crib Gogh's design is music to my 53yr old lower hell on eath back pain. Sir have a good day and I love your channel and I will say this again this is not a dig at you all the best from the Brecon Beacons in South Wales, oh and hugs and kisses lol have a good 1
Ha ha ha ha... love it. Who doesn't love a friendly hug and kiss Lee 😆
I'm 100% with you buddy on the Crib Gogh back panel. Having seen the research they did with the Royal Collage of Nurses, and the level of testing they did the back padding is a gift from the Gods. I'd definitely never think you were trying to take a dig. It's awesome that we can have these opportunities to chat and talk about gear like this
How are the Brecons doing? Have you been out adventuring recently? I managed to take a quick trip to North Wales last weekend to my Dad's neck of the woods to scatter his ashes.
All my best fella
@@MoorlanderEDC Yes i got to my father's ashes up the Beacons 1 day and i'm glad you to your father's homeland to spread his ashes and no i wouldn't have a dig at you Sir life is too short for that crap because it was your channel which made me buy Crib Gogh in the beginning i.e the Constrictor 2 and i'm happy with both my rucksacks. And it's a pity that my home ground has lost a fellow Clan's man but at least he's back home, all the best Brecon Beacons
You too brother 🤜🤛
Brother! How does this compare to the Tasmanian Tiger Mission Pack MKII? Is this way better than the Tas??
Hmmmm... That's a hard answer as they're both very different bags. On paper the Mission still wins (features and options) however that's not to say the Jääkäri is bad. When I get hold of the TT Mil Ops 30, that'll be the real battle of the best
Basically when comparing Jääkäri M & TT Mission pack2 materials and quality:
Savotta: military grade (it really is)
Tasmanian Tiger: airsoft
@@MP-kr3mh ooooh... I think that's a bit harsh 😊. My experience with TT is it's always the highest quality. The Mission and the Jääkäri are both very different packs
@@MP-kr3mh Do you own both? I own the Tasmanian Tiger and the quality is way higher, than any backpack I ever had and I had some in that price range. I've also put it in real use and it took abuse like champ. Actually, I can't find a downside and I just wonder, why people throw that kind of money, on a Savotta, that is lacking so many that a bag like the Tas MKII has... and that's comfort too, which is huge for bags of that size and up.
@@MoorlanderEDC Thanks a lot! That's exactly what I needed to know! Take care!!
Stop talking , I can't afford this pack. And I don't mean financially, I can't afford the fight with the wife.
If you need back up... I got you bruv. I'm a brown belt in Judo and a green belt in Origami 😊 I got you bruv 🤜🤛
@@MoorlanderEDCYou're right, I'm a man! I work for my money, I can buy what I want!!! Even if I use it twice and it sits in a tote in the basement with the 45 other bags I have that I barely use , at least I have it. It's the same argument we have when I want to buy a new gun, I'm sure you know what that's like 😁
Yes! How many hand bags and pairs of shoes doth the other half have? It's all about equality 🤜🤛
@@MoorlanderEDC Sadly, I have way more😞
I don’t think I could ever see a more relatable comment! 😂
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I have been looking at this product, £ pricey , I will stick to Helikon as they have an aluminium internal frame similar to a Berghaus pack, nice review 👍 I do like the hip strap. Greetings from Mark over the hill from you in the High Peak.
Hey Mark, you'll probably know Lud's Church where I was 😊 you're almost a semi-Moorlander 🤜🤛 hope you're well buddy
pronounced Yah'kah'ree
Hi BlastSniper. Thanks for the heads up. I'll hopefully remember this and use it in the future. Hope you're well buddy. Thanks for watching 🤘
@@MoorlanderEDC
Hey it was a good vid, I'm still thinking about whether to get one of these or whether to opt for a cheaper and lighter model.
Also don't take the pronunciation at face value, the Finnish umlaut vowels are tricky. Better to hear it from a Fin pronouncing it ;)
The word itself is a " Finnification " of the german word Jäger.
@@Blastsniper Ha ha ha.. it's funny how far those German travelled and managed to slide there language into others. English is pretty much based on their old Germanic. The smaller one is great. Make sure to check out the Sarma TST CP15 from Varusteleka. I've made some content on both the smaller Savotta and Sarma packs. Stay well brother