Fixing The Plowing ATV That Couldn't Be Fixed
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- Опубліковано 24 сер 2024
- I buy a 2005 Polaris Sportsman 400 Plowing 4x4 ATV that has a cv axle broken on it. #4x4, #Fix,
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Put anti-seize on the splines when you put it back together. It won't melt like grease and will make the next time much smoother.
Your never give up attitude is a thing to behold. Though your reluctance to completly remove items that are in your way is a bit qustionable. 😀
I was thinking "Just remove the whole front" 😄
Me too. Sometimes Joe makes work for himself when he tries to "save time" and take shortcuts. But if it was fast & easy, there would be no movie clip I suppose.
exactly that... i kept thinking "take the plow off and get it out of the way"
It was good seeing how calmly you handled that, I think personally I would have gone to the C4 in the desert solution much sooner! Congrats on finally getting that differential out.
I'd have no patience, using a match or sledgehammer after 20 minutes
Something tells me off camera was a whole different story hehe.
@@hycron1234lmao
Most axle shafts we made were 4140 chrome moly or 1090 high carbon stock plus a hardening process that carbide blade was your best bet, nice job staying with it. Nothing like the satisfaction one gets when you overcome resistance.
Patience, the King of virtues. Determination, the grease in the cogs. A challenge, the area where we learn most about ourselves, and the part you remember most.
When he had that thing under pressure in the press am I the only on who was yellin "heat".
It doesn't have to be cherry red, a few 100 degrees can make a huge difference.
No you were not, map torch used on that collar under pressure until it makes the big pop and your done.
True patience was shown. What a nightmare but paid off in the end.👍
Cutting it forced you to replace that splined input part in transfer case which needed to be replaced anyway ... best possible outcome. And a great lesson in "No quitting, just find a way" ...
Kudos to you young man. You are undoubtedly fearless.
It's been a while since I did this, but I seem to remember I used 2 pry bars to get the hard ones out. With 2 pry bars on opposite sides you're pulling it straight out instead of forcing it a little sideways.
Smart, very smart. You have the patience of a surgeon! I think my neighbors would have abandoned there home….lol great work!
Well I'm about 5 months late. These CV axles are held by circlips and you have to "feel" they're way out while turning the axle. No amount of heat will help. And if the circlips isn't reinstalled the inner spline will wear out prematurely, with the circlips installed they will never wear. Just some advice, I really like your videos they are about bikes I used to ride and it's great to see you bring them back to life.
Just for fun. Do a 'heat it test' on the part you cut off. See if you can get that shafts piece out with heat, plus hammering it or pressing it out.
Slide hammer: one of my most valuable tools. When the job calls for it, nothing else will do
Should just get a new diff and another new axle and just be done with it😊
I admire the patience and tenacity a lot of guys would've just sold the problem to the next guy.
Now, every time I work and get to a spot where I can’t stop, I hear a “piano riff” in the shop😂😂😂😂😂
Consider picking up the OTC air hammer that is referred to here on You Tube as Big Nasty. If you had one you may have been able to get that shaft driven out. It is one of the best tool purchases I have ever made.
I agree with another comment that suggested that a combination bike/quad lift would make a lot of sense and make life more enjoyable and easier on you.
I honestly did not see that blade cutting through that steel. I'm impressed.
I had zero hope for that sawzall blade making it.
I was surprised as well
I didn’t think it would last either , I figured it would give up fast but it kicked some butt instead.
Maybe try torching other axle and heat the old grease than pop the axle since your putting new seals and axles in it anyways. Definitely worth the try . Great videos I haven’t missed one in a long time .
Thanks for posting, your content is a wealth of knowledge. Just wanted to say thank you!
How frustrating. You have a lot more patience than I would ever have.
Definitely not anything I would have tried. Excellent work young man.
Finally took forever but the relief you going through is much deserved.
That was a pain in the butt.Well done on removing it without breaking the casing.
I usually cut holes in CV cups.. use a chain and wrap other end of chain around 10lb sledge. And swing strait.. they will come out every time.
That turned into a big ole can of worms! Perseverance and determination will finish the job. Well done!
I've always found using a pickle fork pushing it in the Gap and then tapping against it sideways for the 3 lb Hammer lightly seems to work the best
I had the same problem last year with the axle, luckily the press got it.
I've seen this happen on car and truck spindles.
Due to improper lubrication, the axel shaft got so hot that it welded itself to the bearing.
And judging by the oil that came out of the differential, that's probably what happened.
Surely heat would have helped?
Well done for sorting it anyway, always enjoy your vids
I was cringing when you were pulling on the good cv axle and the joint inside the boot was popping in and out. The only thing holding that together was the aged rubber boot. Prying normally hasn't worked for me. What I've always had to do is get a long curved bar and whack it on the back of the cv axle to pop it out. Sometimes there's just no room though and your solution worked.
Impressive ! I love that you follow up on these issues. I'd be too lazy /rushed and probably buy new part set ! Yet, seeing how you do, does show we can get things done ! Thanks and kuddos !
A exercise in determination! Well done!!
Holy crap. I would have been cussing that thing to next week! One thing you might have tried is putting some heat on that housing from the inside.
To vintage, I think what the problem is, the quote didn't get vinny's approval
VINN!
Help!!
We’re are you😅
I'm mechanically inclined like you and vinny
When you're hand was pinched by the slide hammer, the thought of it instantly made my hand hurt lol.
dude those things can hurt ya good
Just had a convo with the wife about why watching you break out the sawzall is better than watching Mr. Beast! Love the persistence!
You should do some more snowmobile videos i love all of your videos keep up the good work
Camarata would have the bike chained to a tree and a welded
chain to CV and a Cummins diesel in 2nd gear on the other end .
Ive had this issue before drilled two holes in the axle opposite each other and pur a chain through it
14:22 yelling take the boot off so you can see 😂
I’m pretty surprised that he didn’t curse while taking the machine apart!!
Gotta love Polaris 🙄
U did remove the roll pin out of the axle right? I may be mistaken BUT all polaris 4x4 drivelines I've redone. Unless missing or modified most of those Bastards end up having a small roll pin pressed into the ends of the shafts and u gotta kcock em out or drill em out in order to slide them apart
That only applies to the prop shafts. The axles are held by a captive circlip near the end of the axle stub.
A so called mechanic that will not use heat.😂
@@JoshuaJonahthat's absolutely false information
@@ronalddaub9740 How is that false? On this year of Polaris 400 there is a pin in the propshaft and circlips on the axles. I run an ATV repair shop, I pull a Polaris axle at least once a week and remove a prop shaft every few weeks.
I thought the same 😅
Try PB Blaster penetrating oil. Soak the seized parts. Its amazing. Great video. Cheers bro,,,
Man i love my Sportsman. Thing is a workhorse. I dont use it much, but it does everything we need it too, like tow vehicles when they dont run 😅
Hey ive been å Polaris mechanic for 5-6 years next time if ur stuck onnold machines you can ask me if u want like that cv Axel u use 2-3 chisels pry it out without injuring the seal works everytine when they stuck and just Ole and trusted hard done so many over the years and thats the best way use small first then bigger then ggest inn the end on 3 sides with a hammer dont hammer 1 inn too much b4 you have all inn becouse that pressure is the same as u taking it out and using a press. Aswell as that whole Axel u where not getting off just push it inn and pull hard out if that dosent work unuse the chisel aswell. Hope that helps you in the future and saves i from hours of hours of work and injurys hehe.
Ive usd that blade to cut a swingarm blt on a 400ex, a lifesaver for sure.
Belts don't stretch they just wear thin on the side. You've come along way I admire the channel
Hey been watching your channel since the original Honda 400 video at your folks house keep up the great videos
Dang! That was a tough one! Good work getting it out!
All that without one swear word. Kudos!
You have to push the cv axle in and pull the inner part out for it to release kinda like a impact drill works with releasing bits I have struggled with this as well
I did 2 front diffs on Kawi Brute Force 750s this time last year. Whole front end and steering shaft needed to be removed to bring the diff up and out of the frame. Diffs were absolutely trashed from water intrusion. One even split the case from ice forming. All fixed now. Don’t care to do either again.
Not a fun job
Wow. I have a polaris, but have never had an axle problem. After watching your video. I hope I never do!🤞
Should buy the driveshaft pinion bearing, seal, pin and bushing kit too. You needed to axle puller attachment and a heavier slide hammer. Could have rented it from Advance Auto. The front diff needed a full rebuild anyways. I did this all last year on my 2017 Sportsman 450. Including front wheel bearings, lower ball joints, tie rod ends and front driveshaft U joints.
Patience and persistence indeed, wow!
Joe. I felt your pain removing that. Wowww what a ngtmare. Glad you never gave up
Well done Joe.
That was a nightmare. You can see why the previous owner have up.
A balljoint pickle fork may help also with pulling those axles.
This one made you work for it. Big problem makes good videos.
14:30 at this point, id be hooking something up to whatever is left of the CV axle and using another quad to drive away from it as fast as possible. you have so much patience
Oh buddy have I been there. I've owned many old 4 wheelers and I know you're struggle. This is why when I bought my last Wheeler brand new after about 6 months I took the axles out and put Auntie seize in the axles and I'm really glad I did Was totally dry and already starting to rust. It was a lot of work but not near as much work as it would be in 10 years. It still blows my mind how those retaining clips can make it so hard to come out. I do have a trick on getting them out but I would have to show you it's way too hard to explain. But it does involve the slide hammer vice grips and drilling a few holes. If anybody knows something better to put in there that won't dry up I would like to know.
When using a slide hammer if you tie a nylon lifting strap to the weight you can really whip that weight back and forth using the strap and it saves your hand
Nice to see somebody who knows what they are doing, or can figure things out, versus me "where does this go?"
Thanks. Great to know.
Haven't seen you and your brother race anything in a while
What an absolute pain that was! Fairplay sticking at it though and getting it out Joe...Off to watch the next video :D
Im telling ya, hook a chain on it and crack the chain like a whip. A good heavy chain. It’ll shock it right out. Had an old timer millwright show me that trick.
Nice job saving the case Joe.
That’s some serious perseverance right there! 👏
you need 2 pry bars between differential and axles on opposite sides then pry on one side fist then the other. they like to come out alittle sideways not straight if that makes sense.
I couldn't do it. I think about sinking my boat if my line doesn't go through the line tie on a jig the first time. Good job.
Morning Jess /John
Great video, van looks really good, worked out really well.
On the weigh in John, was you having a cheeky biscuit on the passenger seat.
Please could I request that on tool talk Tuesday, that you could briefly talk about your bikes and when would you venture out on a tour, have a great weekend the pair. Cheers Andy you
Oooooo I got chills before you even showed your hand.... when a man makes a chilly sucking noise you know he did a good one 😂😅
What a nightmare axles can be 😢
Good old Wisconsin salt/rust best natural lock tight there is !
You not putting a oxygen torch on that killed me the entire time.
I love your videos but it's insane how much work you're putting into that
I really hope I don't have this problem when I work on my 500's diff.
I have been looking forward to this video
Great job that is one way to remove it would never thought of that that way I like watching you don't give up
Say it with me: Always OEM belts. Always.
I Would not have the patience you had trying to get that shaft apart, WOW good job and perseverance. The manufacturer should not have designed it that way, a simple circular clip like whats on most CV's in autos would have been sufficient and easily removed and replaced, what were they thinking??? So much for quick axle change out in the trails lol.
I have removed stubborn inner joints by welding 2 big nuts opposite each other or 3 in a triangular pattern then use bolt of the same thread to pull it out last one i did came of with a big bang but worked a treat
Thats my first time seeing a Polaris give birth to a diff. 😆
We had the same thing happen on a 02 sportsman 700 replaced the whole front differential it was $350 and we put new axles in it had a 05 800 that when the front axle finally did come out so did a cloud of rust
2 Vintage I knew you was gonna get it
Joe. I think a torch set is in your future.
The whole front end comes off that four wheeler there’s four wires to plug-in. I would’ve took the blade off the blade wires I would’ve cut to where they can come off to get that differential out and it took me 20 minutes what you’re looking at is an hour.
It’s like it had a c-clip in it.
Man Joe it's CRAZY how stubborn these things are being, there must be something missing here.. I'm 15 minutes in and wth man.. on my Honda (van but still same thing) there's a weird washer in there and you have to have it PERFECTLY aligned to get the axle out, it's ANNOYING but man it takes no more than a couple minutes of turning it to get it right.. this, THIS is crazy!!
What you need to invest in is floor sissor lift to work on those atv properly
I'd be keen if you started selling merch mate. Love your videos here in Australia.
That Polaris looks like a pain to work on. I'm curious what make ( honda, Suzuki, yamaha, kawasaki) you or the guys on this thread prefer to work on. Personally, I like honda and yamaha. Just curious 🤔
I can't believe it was that much of a pain in the but to get apart I definitely would put something on so it doesn't happen again
WOW!
if there is nothing holding the cv-joint in the diff, then an old clutch fork from a FWD car can help knocking out CV axles
Mini torch for home depot or wherever wouldve helped you out big time.
WOW! That turned into a job. 😬
Really liked that video, it's like every project I do, it goes like this. Real legit.