Yeah its a huge different in reception between CN beta for Lingyang and the global release for Lycaon. Lingyang got really tarnished way before the game is released
I mean, if you do it right, no one cares that much. Plus, characters specifically like Von are usually more accepted since bipedal canine/ wolf characters are more commonly seen in media as a whole than characters like LingYang.
Have you actually looked at the designs of the two characters? Furry or not, Lycaeon is 1000x cooler and more interesting looking than Lingyang's old design.
at least Lycaon managed to break the cycle of mediocre-to-bad ice type character as a starting 5* in a 3d gacha game by being the best unit you can get yourself in the standard banner for ZZZ
Lycaon was the first 5-star I got in that game and, at the time, I wasn't a fan because he felt clunky and awkward. Then I paired him with Soukaku (the blue oni girl) and Corrin (the maid with the chainsaw who can't stop crying) and _holy moly!_ If nothing else, that extra Stun damage is no joke.
@gag8763 at least you have a stronger Ellen. I've lost 1 to Koleda and the 2nd was guaranteed to be Ellen. The worst part is from the standard banner, I got Nekomata, The Restrained(Lycaon's W engine) and Fusion Compiler(Grace's W engine). I cry myself to sleep every night knowing I am missing so much. I mean, the W engine for Lycaon means I would be able to get his max potential when I get him but I'm still sad that I got Grace's W engine since I don't use anomaly characters.
@@SageRuffin his "clunkiness" is kindda a blessing in disguise, since the end of every one of his charged basics are considered heavy attacks, doing chain attacks after daze is very easy on him and you don't need to wait until the end of the combo to do so
Listen, if theres only one lingyang main in this world then that's me and if there's none left then I've passed. But honestly, it's much more satisfying to not play the meta but just the characters that you like. I love this silly little lion boy and to me his plaustyle is fun and rewarding, especially because it is challenging. I don't want to trivialise the game with overpowered units, i wanna struggle against enemies, i wanna try over and over to succeed. (Maybe i should just go and play a rouge like--)
To clarify I had friend who had researched the game. they told me to pick verina. I ignored them because I am the one true Lingyang supporter I did end up getting verina but i don't use her much honestly, I prefer master Jianxin
Ayyyyyy! Fellow Lingyang main! I pulled him twice in my first 100 pulls so it was fate for me. I will say this forever about any of these gacha games: don’t listen to tier lists. If you invest properly in a character, they will be amazing.
@@PriestessPetal493 fare thee well, blessings swell! i also have him at c1 (or whatever you call it, I pulled 2). We lingyang mains gotta stick together!
@@dsaasd-k8r Calcharo does good damage, it's a meme that he'll be totally replaced by Xiangli Yao who's has some of the best animations in the game and is gonna be free
One thing that I feel could've made him way more usable, imagine if his skill was instead a parry / block or got upgraded to one while in the air, and make it not interrupt his current combo. It'd be an interesting way for him to avoid getting juggled himself.
I like how there was a big backlash for his old design only for people praising the full release design to not even play him Now no one seems to be happy with this character
Ngl I would've chose him as my 5* if he still had his old design. Anthro characters go hard, especially since big companies are so afraid to add diversity even though it would make their game explode in popularity e.g. ZZZ.
I have him fully built although I don’t use him as much as I did before jinhsi came out, I still use him in simulation challenges tho, best lil buddy for life
It feels like they intended several characters to be played with the gameplan of "break the boss's toughness bar with the rest of your team and then unload character X's full combo while they're stunned." The problem is any DPS can do that, so a DPS that only does that is substandard.
Despite all the problems, he was my first 5 star and still play him cause Im actually someone who likes his design and unsure if we’ll get a character like him in the future…
i like his design.... i tend to prefer more cutesy characters, but not ones that go so overboard that they're literally children. (example: hu tao, koleda) so i like him
Lingyang's character designs is absolutely one of my favorite top 5 (it's because of him and Jinhsi why I installed the game), the only reason why I don't use him is because I don't know how to use him. His kits are too hard for me to understand. Maybe, once I got Zhezhi, I'll definitely try to build him
It sucks because I’m someone who plays and adores Lingyang. I love his design, I love his personality, I love his lore, and I love his play style (in theory), but it downright a struggle to play him most of the time. I want to keep playing him but I feel like I can’t, not optimally at least, and that’s discouraging. The same thing happened to me with Yangqing too. I have the worst luck possible it seems.
"Most arent a fan of his design" wait a minute what do they mean!? Hes so cute, and hes the only cute boy in the game ive seen so far i dont care how useless bro is hes my fave
The thing about Lingyang against other DPS is that Lingyang is very dependent on his combo and is greedy in on-field time. He's also uncomfortable because he can't quickswap but this is not much of a problem for me. This is what I noticed as a Lingyang main. The only reason why he's pretty mid is because of his damage multipliers but otherwise, he's very fun to play and pretty easy to learn. I also noticed that he's very comfortable to use in mobile and his outro skill damage is crazy. If you're only interested in Meta, then by all means don't pull nor use him unless he gets a significant buff.
Wait, people don’t like his current design? Everyone I’ve talked to thinks Ling Yang is adorable, and I agree. He’s like a mix of Gaming and Bennett in my eyes. I thought he well went into waifu over meta, even if he wasn’t the most popular. Makes me sad that he isn’t loved as much as he deserves.
If he could summon larger lion spirit paws for some extra distance with those mid-air punches, he'll be less taxing to play. Also, if his liberation can fill his forte to 100%, his rotations would be more seamless.
3 now. Qiqi - Genshin Yanqing - Hsr Lingyang - Wuwa And It's not even their fault it's just that the games have no place for them and they have one thing in their kit that brings them down ten-fold
The main reason why I played Lingyang is bc of his companion story and his design Hehe And even though I don't play him anymore, he's still one of my favorite characters
Appearance isn’t that big of a deal, Lycaon is also a furry but he is very likable. The problem is his role in beta is to steal your kill, and when you go up and chat to him, he is like “why are you still here?”
Trying to use Calcharo against Jue is so incredibly painful. I mean, tons of characters are painful against him, but Calcharo is just so incredibly frustrating.
Lingyang could probably use the Glacio Dreadmane as the main Echo because it can be used mid-air, but it does put you back on the ground once it's finished. Ideally to be used right after Lingyang's Forte finisher kicks. Unfortunately, for some reason it has 20s cooldown despite being just an Elite echo.
So Yanqing, Qiqi, Lingyang 3 games where the standard Ice banner characters got shafted now In ZZZ the wolf furry is still top tier but who knows what might happen in the next patch
reasons: -requires a sizable amount of investment -difficulty of balancing energy regen and damage -doesn't deal high enough damage for the future mobs that will have hundreds of thousands of HP
@@joakinsaneThe fact that Jinshi put Jiyan in his place immediately 1 banner after his literal banner, it's safe to assume you should be more concerned about powercreep than not
While Kuro is more open in buffing their units, like how in PGR they buff existing units via leaps. In wuwa, they might take a more traditional gacha approach of fixing existing units by releasing another unit that might buff the character indirectly or straight up replace him/her with a new unit of similar playstyle. I actually think that wuwa is already embracing the latter approach of fixing units as we've seen with Xiangli Yao literally being Calcharo 2.0(I have a feeling that after Taoqi, Cal will be next in "Why no one plays" xD), because it is more financially beneficial. So with all that said above, there's a fat chance that Lingyang himself will get a buff to his kit, either kuro will release a support or sub-dps that synergizes with him well or straight up release an ice dps unit that replaces the jingle "deez nuts" beast, and we all know the latter will most likely happen xDD
dont play wuwa, but i find it really funny that they shaved him (alongside cutting off that one guy's tail). i do think his current design looks better, but the his one wasnt unsalvageable or anything.
They really got to add more echoes, echo set effects, characters, and weapons, which synergize more with his playstyle. Currently the only echo which really synergizes with his midair playstyle is the glacio dreadmane, but even then it lacks the damage and buffs of 4-cost echoes.
Oh yeah, further explanation on why mech abomination and the lingering tunes set is considered the current best set for him currently; Due to the way damage calc works, it’s better to have a good mix of high attack and ele dmg and Lingyang’s ultimate provides additional ele dmg for a duration, meaning gaining additional atk helps him more than additional stacking of ele dmg for him damage wise.
But lingering set just isn't enough or as instant. Especially because if I build a glacial set. I'm building 3 cost atk echoes instead of farming for a specific DMG set
Actually the only standard character I don't own, and I'm pretty fine with that. Aside from basically breakdance fighting, there's nothing all that cool about him. Fun overworld pick perhaps, but not meta. Comparing the others: Verina, #1 character in the game, universal support fits on any team. Jianxin, worse Verina. Provides shields, which is arguably better than healing, and comes with crowd control, but feels slower and less reliable overall. Calcharo: Diluc in a Sephiroth cosplay, with Cyno burst. That's basically the whole kit. It's not strictly bad, even post nerf, but it can be incredibly difficult to get the maximum value from him. Encore: Annoying little kid, who happens to be everything we wanted Klee to be. Arguably competitive with limited 5 stars, but I personally am not a fan of her.
Seeing the title of this video made me stop and laugh because I felt so called out. I feel a little bad that I haven’t built him, but his play style just isn’t enough for me to stop building my main team (now teams)
If he was a limited character, not only would his S1 be in his base kit But I think he'd have an enhanced vibration depletion on his basics, it would allow him to reduce the risks of needing to chase the ennemies. Additionally a longer uptime on his forte would have been a given
Why does he get so much hate 😭 I still main him because he's cute and I really like his play style, but I still need to build him and make him even stronger (I'm very bad at building characters.. like REALLY bad 💀)
I do feel that Lingyang could fill the role of a "rusher" if that ever becomes a thing. I feel that Jinhsi, while sharing the "enchanced normals" feature, hers is more a buffer for her nuke, so she can't dump her forte immediately, as she is likely to die before she could pull it off. This is worsened by the fact she isn't that mobile in the air. As you had mentioned, anti-interruption should be baked into his kit, providing himself as a sticky DPS which can fight through things apart from hard CC, not necessarily a tank but can take chip damage and heal while in the reserve when your burst or support are doing their things. Effectively, they selling point is their ease of use and existing outside of the DPS rotation system. This brings into comparison you made with Rover and Danjin, as they focus on being on the field for longer and focusing on their basic attack chains. Rover and Danjin have means to restore their HP on the field, so when given forms of anti interruption (bell turtle or chadwu, etc) they can go ham. Lingyang does have skills which help him shorten his B. Attack chain, but he lacks the same ability to reliably sustain himself on the field that his kit builds him up to be.
Do you have a document or something for all the places you get your info for? I typically build/play every character in the gacha games I play, and with so many characters/games to look at, most of my "research" is surface level. As you said Lingyang is particularly difficult to find info on and pretty much any of you WNOP's videos I'd love to see what you were to look at. Especially since you've been doing these video's for so long, I'm sure you have better access to these things since you know where to look and know who to ask, at least much more than me.
I love how people liked him because of his cute, optimistic and cool (than gaming) design when he first appeared and now just abandoned him like he isn't existed lol
I don't know whether they already fixed it or not but my one reason to not play him is because the shit targeting. It was really unbearable that every time I want to focus attacking one unit and he will just try to attack other unit that's not even on the screen.
Lingyang's character story is one of the better narratives in WuWa. I just wish he was stronger and his fan service wasn't so heavily focused on furry-bait 😅. Jinshi has similar problems to Lingyang attack-animation wise, but she's more popular as you don't have to field Jinshi as long to get her full damage value. It also doesn't help that the current Ice Overlord Echo skill dmg buff doesn't benefit his dmg as much as a unit like Sanhua.
honestly... had i been forced to pick between qiqi, yanqing or lingyang, i would have chose the latter, because he is way more fun to play than the other two lol
Calcharo number is not terrible but his gameplay is cuz of his BS forte mechanic so people don't play him anymore while Lingyang base number is a joke, he is much weaker than any other DPS on top of being meh to play. At least Calc look hella badass and when played properly feels pretty good
He's really not that bad as everyone says he is. He gets labeled bad by content creators. Even though three community mostly agrees that clacharo is basically the worst one now. Your going to do a video on why no one plays calcharo soon.
For real, cc said yinlin will be soooo good so I pull her and her weapon. Now I regret that I don't have Jinshi's weapon. Now I trying to main Chixia and I think she's the best single target dps for now.
Lingyang gave me so much ptsd when I first start the game because I keep losing 50/50 to him, every time I see moonlight when I get a 5 star resonator, I immediately got a heart attack 💀
I like Lingyang design, like thats my optimistic artistic dancing son, with a sad furry backstory. Like you said he has no good equipment/support. At least in the early game, he was fun to jump around and explore. I did end up getting Jhinsi, so now he's benched till further notice.
in all seriousness though, I'm glad Lyacon broke the 'standard banner ice character is the worst unit' pattern and is considered the best current stun unit in ZZZ.
I started playing this game with him being one of the first reasons, i even chose his copy over verina, i love him so much an i wish he could be decent, but... it is what it is, at least he is playable and fun to play, and also adorable
He's my main and I enjoy his playstyle. Beyond that I don't really care much about optimizing beyond what a f2p can do and i'm not having issues doing any content so...
I think its funny how Lingyang got hated on for his furry design yet Von Lyacon is the most popular character in ZZZ atm 😭
Yeah its a huge different in reception between CN beta for Lingyang and the global release for Lycaon.
Lingyang got really tarnished way before the game is released
Lingyang and lycaon are probably on the opposite sides of the spectrum on how a furry is implemented
I mean, if you do it right, no one cares that much. Plus, characters specifically like Von are usually more accepted since bipedal canine/ wolf characters are more commonly seen in media as a whole than characters like LingYang.
@@bkelso61white buff tigers gets money too (mountain arknights, JinQue dislyte)
Have you actually looked at the designs of the two characters? Furry or not, Lycaeon is 1000x cooler and more interesting looking than Lingyang's old design.
at least Lycaon managed to break the cycle of mediocre-to-bad ice type character as a starting 5* in a 3d gacha game by being the best unit you can get yourself in the standard banner for ZZZ
I won 2 50/50’s and got 2 ellens when I was hoping to lose to lycaon💀
@@gag8763 mission failed successfully
Lycaon was the first 5-star I got in that game and, at the time, I wasn't a fan because he felt clunky and awkward. Then I paired him with Soukaku (the blue oni girl) and Corrin (the maid with the chainsaw who can't stop crying) and _holy moly!_
If nothing else, that extra Stun damage is no joke.
@gag8763 at least you have a stronger Ellen. I've lost 1 to Koleda and the 2nd was guaranteed to be Ellen. The worst part is from the standard banner, I got Nekomata, The Restrained(Lycaon's W engine) and Fusion Compiler(Grace's W engine). I cry myself to sleep every night knowing I am missing so much. I mean, the W engine for Lycaon means I would be able to get his max potential when I get him but I'm still sad that I got Grace's W engine since I don't use anomaly characters.
@@SageRuffin his "clunkiness" is kindda a blessing in disguise, since the end of every one of his charged basics are considered heavy attacks, doing chain attacks after daze is very easy on him and you don't need to wait until the end of the combo to do so
Listen, if theres only one lingyang main in this world then that's me and if there's none left then I've passed. But honestly, it's much more satisfying to not play the meta but just the characters that you like. I love this silly little lion boy and to me his plaustyle is fun and rewarding, especially because it is challenging. I don't want to trivialise the game with overpowered units, i wanna struggle against enemies, i wanna try over and over to succeed. (Maybe i should just go and play a rouge like--)
Don't worry I main him too!! Let's stay strong 🤧🤧
as a fellow lingyang main, yes
I am a Lingyang main. I used my 5 star selector to get him!
To clarify I had friend who had researched the game. they told me to pick verina. I ignored them because I am the one true Lingyang supporter I did end up getting verina but i don't use her much honestly, I prefer master Jianxin
im sorry for your loss
@@nerdkingalpha4958I respect that. I hate people who tries to min max absolutely everything before even playing the game.
Ayyyyyy! Fellow Lingyang main! I pulled him twice in my first 100 pulls so it was fate for me. I will say this forever about any of these gacha games: don’t listen to tier lists. If you invest properly in a character, they will be amazing.
@@PriestessPetal493 fare thee well, blessings swell! i also have him at c1 (or whatever you call it, I pulled 2). We lingyang mains gotta stick together!
Wait for Vars to make "Why no one play Calcharo" very soon after the release of Xiangli Yao....
Who's that? Some upcoming character for Wuwa?
New free Electro DPS in 1.2 ver
@Safineya Yes, they were dripped marketed (this means their character was shown as a picture before seeing their gameplay)
@@Safineyanot to mention a free character as well
He is also just Chinese government's request and propaganda so Kuro added him on purpose. Even Gaming in Genshin was good but nobody plays him.
I think you will make a "Why no one plays Calcharo" soon
🥲 this is sad
yeah sadly
Lots of people play him despite him being bad though
@@dsaasd-k8r Calcharo does good damage, it's a meme that he'll be totally replaced by Xiangli Yao who's has some of the best animations in the game and is gonna be free
He will but not that much soon tbh
One thing that I feel could've made him way more usable, imagine if his skill was instead a parry / block or got upgraded to one while in the air, and make it not interrupt his current combo. It'd be an interesting way for him to avoid getting juggled himself.
I like how there was a big backlash for his old design only for people praising the full release design to not even play him
Now no one seems to be happy with this character
There is a huge difference between kit and design.
To be fair the backlash was extremely biased. I believe a larger number of players during the closed beta were from the CN server region.
Ngl I would've chose him as my 5* if he still had his old design. Anthro characters go hard, especially since big companies are so afraid to add diversity even though it would make their game explode in popularity e.g. ZZZ.
The old design mogged the new one so hard it's not even funny. We went from interesting anthro lion to generic twjnk#2837483923884
I play him btw
The Moment I saw Lingyang when I started WuWa, He instantly became one of my favorite characters. He’s just so cute and so cool.
Too bad he's trash
the "Gawr, i'm sorry to let you see this side of me" made me die of cringe
@@sonnguyen-iv7gvNah Let the man be happy. I pray zhezhi will be a good support for his character
Idk about cool but yeah idk about cute too
I have him fully built although I don’t use him as much as I did before jinhsi came out, I still use him in simulation challenges tho, best lil buddy for life
I guess you could say… his strength didn’t *fly*
At least, Zezhi is coming. Definitely a blessing for Lingyang mains.
It feels like they intended several characters to be played with the gameplan of "break the boss's toughness bar with the rest of your team and then unload character X's full combo while they're stunned." The problem is any DPS can do that, so a DPS that only does that is substandard.
Despite all the problems, he was my first 5 star and still play him cause Im actually someone who likes his design and unsure if we’ll get a character like him in the future…
i like his design.... i tend to prefer more cutesy characters, but not ones that go so overboard that they're literally children. (example: hu tao, koleda) so i like him
Lingyang's character designs is absolutely one of my favorite top 5 (it's because of him and Jinhsi why I installed the game), the only reason why I don't use him is because I don't know how to use him. His kits are too hard for me to understand. Maybe, once I got Zhezhi, I'll definitely try to build him
He’s a cute cat boy therefore I main. He’s the GOAT
He's not the goat. He's the sheep.😂
@@piscye1806the sheep is Encore 😅
Surly you are a main of yanqing aand Qiqi 😅😂😂
And that's also the same reason most don't play him
It sucks because I’m someone who plays and adores Lingyang. I love his design, I love his personality, I love his lore, and I love his play style (in theory), but it downright a struggle to play him most of the time. I want to keep playing him but I feel like I can’t, not optimally at least, and that’s discouraging.
The same thing happened to me with Yangqing too. I have the worst luck possible it seems.
"Most arent a fan of his design" wait a minute what do they mean!? Hes so cute, and hes the only cute boy in the game ive seen so far i dont care how useless bro is hes my fave
The thing about Lingyang against other DPS is that Lingyang is very dependent on his combo and is greedy in on-field time. He's also uncomfortable because he can't quickswap but this is not much of a problem for me. This is what I noticed as a Lingyang main. The only reason why he's pretty mid is because of his damage multipliers but otherwise, he's very fun to play and pretty easy to learn. I also noticed that he's very comfortable to use in mobile and his outro skill damage is crazy. If you're only interested in Meta, then by all means don't pull nor use him unless he gets a significant buff.
Me who doesn't play wuthering waves but still watches the video cause it's from Vars
same
Literally me with his smash bros vids
Same 😂
U should try it! It’s rlly worth it 🥹
And if you love Genshin don't try it cause it might ruin it for you
Wait, people don’t like his current design? Everyone I’ve talked to thinks Ling Yang is adorable, and I agree. He’s like a mix of Gaming and Bennett in my eyes. I thought he well went into waifu over meta, even if he wasn’t the most popular. Makes me sad that he isn’t loved as much as he deserves.
If he could summon larger lion spirit paws for some extra distance with those mid-air punches, he'll be less taxing to play. Also, if his liberation can fill his forte to 100%, his rotations would be more seamless.
Ah yes, the 2 ice/cryo standard bamner characters are like this. Is this one a surprise?
3 now.
Qiqi - Genshin
Yanqing - Hsr
Lingyang - Wuwa
And It's not even their fault it's just that the games have no place for them and they have one thing in their kit that brings them down ten-fold
Von Lycaon from ZZZ broke the Ice curse. He's the best standard 5 star with the Ice element in that game.
To be fair to Qiqi, she was meta in the very early days. She just got power crept very quickly
@@Jzkd2045At this point, I think ice is just a cursed element
@@insanittiez4860 dont worry, Von Lycaon from ZZZ just broke the curse by being the best standard 5*
I guess i truly am "no one" now😔
"If only he has a support that enhances glacio dmg"
Zhezhi: Mi Hao
What is "Mi Hao" 💀
@@sirmonke8946they probably meant “Ni Hao” (你好)
@@sirmonke8946 english transcription of "hello" in chinese.
@@nycolor6365 yeah lol
@@RedTheEpicness I know I was making fun of your typo
Really glad to help with making this video!!❤🔥
Its too bad too. His JP voice actor's probably my favorite in the entire cast, so I really wanted to use him.
i will save Lingyang
The main reason why I played Lingyang is bc of his companion story and his design
Hehe
And even though I don't play him anymore, he's still one of my favorite characters
I get that Lingyang's not among the best but I still find him fun to play as especially when exploring and echo farming.
Encore does everything he does but better, simple as that.
Lingyang is better for players who don't have skill issues 😅
I have skill issues
I don’t have him yet but also won’t be that sad when he eventually comes. He’s very adorable and feels fresh because he’s so different.
Appearance isn’t that big of a deal, Lycaon is also a furry but he is very likable.
The problem is his role in beta is to steal your kill, and when you go up and chat to him, he is like “why are you still here?”
At least he isn't like Clacharo, who can't do damage because his kit was designed for enemies that stay still and don't attack.
Trying to use Calcharo against Jue is so incredibly painful. I mean, tons of characters are painful against him, but Calcharo is just so incredibly frustrating.
@@KahlevN Yeah, the characters that aren't painful against Jue is literally just Chixia and Alto atm
Xiangli Yao is a blessing for him lmao
I didn't know his S1 was good, I just got it bc I like Lingyang.
Lingyang could probably use the Glacio Dreadmane as the main Echo because it can be used mid-air, but it does put you back on the ground once it's finished. Ideally to be used right after Lingyang's Forte finisher kicks.
Unfortunately, for some reason it has 20s cooldown despite being just an Elite echo.
Completely unrelated to the whole video but I really like you’re voice it got such a positive vibe to it
CONVINCING REASON: every 50 i lost it was him he is RS1 rn
LINGYANG IS SO CUTE HOW DARE YOU DISRESPECT HIM (appearance wise)
So Yanqing, Qiqi, Lingyang 3 games where the standard Ice banner characters got shafted now
In ZZZ the wolf furry is still top tier but who knows what might happen in the next patch
He has some crazy supportive passives so I doubt he will be powercrept soon 🗿
@@Stilllife04 exactly.
eww
Vars 6 months later : Why no one plays Jiyan
reasons:
-requires a sizable amount of investment
-difficulty of balancing energy regen and damage
-doesn't deal high enough damage for the future mobs that will have hundreds of thousands of HP
@@belliebeltran4657 bull 💩
@@joakinsane yeah, for now-- but power creep is a thing
More like: Why no one plays Calcharo lol, his ass is a few weeks away from getting benched.
@@joakinsaneThe fact that Jinshi put Jiyan in his place immediately 1 banner after his literal banner, it's safe to assume you should be more concerned about powercreep than not
Zhezhi is probably the most dedicated support for lingyang currently, being able to buff ice damage, skill damage and apparently give energy regen
and then there is ZZZ who broke the Ice Curse with Lycaon.
They made him the best stun in the game to balance things out
A furry
@@theampeel wtf? Even better than Koleda? Not that it'd matter to me, I love my Bae knock-off but wtf.
@@RaffoPhantom personally I don't have neither of them, but so far everyone have been saying he's the best stun
@@RaffoPhantom Lycaon with 175 stun stats can groggy a basic mob with 6 basic charge attack, he's nutty.
Lingyang move set is like the early days that Genshin character Xiao aka ultimate wind pogostick tsundre guy.
While Kuro is more open in buffing their units, like how in PGR they buff existing units via leaps. In wuwa, they might take a more traditional gacha approach of fixing existing units by releasing another unit that might buff the character indirectly or straight up replace him/her with a new unit of similar playstyle. I actually think that wuwa is already embracing the latter approach of fixing units as we've seen with Xiangli Yao literally being Calcharo 2.0(I have a feeling that after Taoqi, Cal will be next in "Why no one plays" xD), because it is more financially beneficial. So with all that said above, there's a fat chance that Lingyang himself will get a buff to his kit, either kuro will release a support or sub-dps that synergizes with him well or straight up release an ice dps unit that replaces the jingle "deez nuts" beast, and we all know the latter will most likely happen xDD
One Word: Zhezhi and Glacio Damage Bonus
Okay thats actually 5 words
Luckly von lycaon will end the bad ice permanent character curse
Because he is tthe only Hoyo ice permanent character who's not from a region inspired by China.
He broke the curse.
dont play wuwa, but i find it really funny that they shaved him (alongside cutting off that one guy's tail).
i do think his current design looks better, but the his one wasnt unsalvageable or anything.
Thank you for the vid.
Also, great music. XBC2 rules.
I love Lingyang. I lost to him on Jiyan banner and got guarantee Jinshi because of him
Same here, and also jinhsi to s2 with no spooks since he spook me on jiyan banner. F2pbtw
They really got to add more echoes, echo set effects, characters, and weapons, which synergize more with his playstyle. Currently the only echo which really synergizes with his midair playstyle is the glacio dreadmane, but even then it lacks the damage and buffs of 4-cost echoes.
Oh yeah, further explanation on why mech abomination and the lingering tunes set is considered the current best set for him currently; Due to the way damage calc works, it’s better to have a good mix of high attack and ele dmg and Lingyang’s ultimate provides additional ele dmg for a duration, meaning gaining additional atk helps him more than additional stacking of ele dmg for him damage wise.
But lingering set just isn't enough or as instant. Especially because if I build a glacial set. I'm building 3 cost atk echoes instead of farming for a specific DMG set
Actually the only standard character I don't own, and I'm pretty fine with that. Aside from basically breakdance fighting, there's nothing all that cool about him. Fun overworld pick perhaps, but not meta.
Comparing the others:
Verina, #1 character in the game, universal support fits on any team.
Jianxin, worse Verina. Provides shields, which is arguably better than healing, and comes with crowd control, but feels slower and less reliable overall.
Calcharo: Diluc in a Sephiroth cosplay, with Cyno burst. That's basically the whole kit. It's not strictly bad, even post nerf, but it can be incredibly difficult to get the maximum value from him.
Encore: Annoying little kid, who happens to be everything we wanted Klee to be. Arguably competitive with limited 5 stars, but I personally am not a fan of her.
Seeing the title of this video made me stop and laugh because I felt so called out.
I feel a little bad that I haven’t built him, but his play style just isn’t enough for me to stop building my main team (now teams)
If he was a limited character, not only would his S1 be in his base kit
But I think he'd have an enhanced vibration depletion on his basics, it would allow him to reduce the risks of needing to chase the ennemies.
Additionally a longer uptime on his forte would have been a given
Why does he get so much hate 😭 I still main him because he's cute and I really like his play style, but I still need to build him and make him even stronger (I'm very bad at building characters.. like REALLY bad 💀)
I do feel that Lingyang could fill the role of a "rusher" if that ever becomes a thing. I feel that Jinhsi, while sharing the "enchanced normals" feature, hers is more a buffer for her nuke, so she can't dump her forte immediately, as she is likely to die before she could pull it off. This is worsened by the fact she isn't that mobile in the air. As you had mentioned, anti-interruption should be baked into his kit, providing himself as a sticky DPS which can fight through things apart from hard CC, not necessarily a tank but can take chip damage and heal while in the reserve when your burst or support are doing their things. Effectively, they selling point is their ease of use and existing outside of the DPS rotation system.
This brings into comparison you made with Rover and Danjin, as they focus on being on the field for longer and focusing on their basic attack chains. Rover and Danjin have means to restore their HP on the field, so when given forms of anti interruption (bell turtle or chadwu, etc) they can go ham. Lingyang does have skills which help him shorten his B. Attack chain, but he lacks the same ability to reliably sustain himself on the field that his kit builds him up to be.
Do you have a document or something for all the places you get your info for? I typically build/play every character in the gacha games I play, and with so many characters/games to look at, most of my "research" is surface level. As you said Lingyang is particularly difficult to find info on and pretty much any of you WNOP's videos I'd love to see what you were to look at. Especially since you've been doing these video's for so long, I'm sure you have better access to these things since you know where to look and know who to ask, at least much more than me.
Not only him its all of them beside the S tier 5 stars
I love how people liked him because of his cute, optimistic and cool (than gaming) design when he first appeared and now just abandoned him like he isn't existed lol
Me who played lingyang until union level 40
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his main damage come from his outro skills. other than that echo deal better damage
Lingyang mains, Vars has finished us…😔
He should be top single target dps, as not having any cleave ability should be rewarded. Devs said they'd rework him, but I wouldn't hold my breath
i main him :3 he make so much dmg idk why all hate him :C
The video: Why no one play him 😢
Me: I don't have the dude 😂
OOOF! Poor guy! He was my first 5*, I tried to make him work... His kit is so clunky and not fun at all.
I don't know whether they already fixed it or not but my one reason to not play him is because the shit targeting. It was really unbearable that every time I want to focus attacking one unit and he will just try to attack other unit that's not even on the screen.
Lingyang's character story is one of the better narratives in WuWa. I just wish he was stronger and his fan service wasn't so heavily focused on furry-bait 😅.
Jinshi has similar problems to Lingyang attack-animation wise, but she's more popular as you don't have to field Jinshi as long to get her full damage value. It also doesn't help that the current Ice Overlord Echo skill dmg buff doesn't benefit his dmg as much as a unit like Sanhua.
2/2 of my lost 50-50s were on Lingyang, just throwing it out there…
am I using this video as research to make lingyang broken in my account? Yes, absolutely.
I feel you on that dilemma of info on this game being hard to find. Makes it a little weird at times, but at least I'm having fun.
honestly... had i been forced to pick between qiqi, yanqing or lingyang, i would have chose the latter, because he is way more fun to play than the other two lol
Calcharo number is not terrible but his gameplay is cuz of his BS forte mechanic so people don't play him anymore while Lingyang base number is a joke, he is much weaker than any other DPS on top of being meh to play.
At least Calc look hella badass and when played properly feels pretty good
The irony here is that, in PGR CN, Ice Team is very strong team and even in GLB (to some extent)
Qiqi: Cryo
Yanqing: Ice
Lingyang: Glacio
...and then came Von Lycaon!
He's really not that bad as everyone says he is. He gets labeled bad by content creators. Even though three community mostly agrees that clacharo is basically the worst one now. Your going to do a video on why no one plays calcharo soon.
For real, cc said yinlin will be soooo good so I pull her and her weapon. Now I regret that I don't have Jinshi's weapon. Now I trying to main Chixia and I think she's the best single target dps for now.
If lingyang is the yanqing/qiqi of wuwa, i fear that calcharro is the diluc, cause hes already falling off 💀
No idea where you think nobody plays Lingyang. I am a Lingyang main and he slaps.
He’s fun af to me. Don’t care what others think!
It's like they just grabbed a bat and beat the sh*t out of his kit and than sat it on fire for good measure
Maybe the next T5 Gauntlet weapon will give some of the pump that Lingyang need.
Lingyang gave me so much ptsd when I first start the game because I keep losing 50/50 to him, every time I see moonlight when I get a 5 star resonator, I immediately got a heart attack 💀
I like Lingyang design, like thats my optimistic artistic dancing son, with a sad furry backstory. Like you said he has no good equipment/support. At least in the early game, he was fun to jump around and explore. I did end up getting Jhinsi, so now he's benched till further notice.
I still play him, I like his story and his design :))
in all seriousness though, I'm glad Lyacon broke the 'standard banner ice character is the worst unit' pattern and is considered the best current stun unit in ZZZ.
I'm A LINGYANG MAIN.... OKAY? I PLAY HIM❤😊
This video was bound to drop after jihnsi 😭
The sad thing is that I lost 50/50 twice on Jinhsi’s banner, both to lingyang 😢
The only problem he have is how low the multiplier for his attack is
He's cute AF but the wolf howl absolutely sent me 😭
We dont play lingyang because he is the cursed character in terms of pulling on limited banners
11:57 auto caption wrote Danjin as Death Engine and honestly after 2 weeks on my Danjin Rover Verina team I am very inclined to agree
Lingyan is greatly over dpsed by any well built danjin, its not even a discusion
Why is all but, like, 3 of my mains in each game i play always on the "no one plays" section 😭
I started playing this game with him being one of the first reasons, i even chose his copy over verina, i love him so much an i wish he could be decent, but... it is what it is, at least he is playable and fun to play, and also adorable
If i had a nickel for every ice-element kid that absolutely sucks in their games, i'd have 3 nickels
seeing the “genshin nerfed a character” post and then a WNOP on WuWa is so unintentionally hilarious
Thanks for making topics that i wouldn't normally be interested in interesting. Definitely added to my favorite creators list Vars
both Tao and Ling were the first chars i builded still playing the tiger boy but the booba girl was replaced by the other 5star gauntlet char
Wait, I didn't know bosses can grab the character... that's pretty cool ngl
He's my main and I enjoy his playstyle. Beyond that I don't really care much about optimizing beyond what a f2p can do and i'm not having issues doing any content so...