2023 RAM 3500 Night Edition Dually “SO Cummins”: Why Do People Hate On This Configuration???
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- Опубліковано 10 лип 2024
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I’d buy a SRW 3500 SO Cummins/68 RFE based on my experience with my current 2500 Cummins. But I think the SO is kind of a waste in the Dually. It’s gonna have a lot lower towing capacity. I guess the upside to getting this package would be you would never over stress the chassis. Ram needs to retune the Aisin to be smoother and quicker when not in tow/haul mode and just get rid of the controversial 68, not that is a really bad trans but just to streamline the choices. Ford didn’t create another trans for their 6.7 HO. But then again the 2500 Maga cab would have like 1200# payload if they did that lol
#MAGA 🇺🇸🇺🇸TRUMP 2024🇺🇸🇺🇸
I’m a hard-core GMC boy but I’m not gonna lie this is a bad ass set up 👌
Makes me miss having a Cummins. Man I sure wish they’d start the manual trans again
Love that combo. Mine is a 2018 2500 6.7 and it looks great. This is my favorite combo
I have a 2022 ram 2500 Laramie. I love it. My dad has a 2020 duramax and man I wish I had some of its features. Like the bigger back seat legroom and the bed and bumper steps. Ram could do so much better.
Once again another beautiful truck and great review. But, here it comes, the $98k is simply inexcusable at this point. This should be a $70-$80k truck. Even then it simply does not make economic sense to me. Too each their own and it is their money not mine.
Double Deuce......................UNFORTUNATELY, AL the truck manufacturers have gone off their rockers, as ALL of them are OVER PRICED by THOUSANDS! Just my opinion.
100k is a solid price, choose a different truck.
@@luisflo8316 you are so far out of touch with reality it is laughable.
You're just poor. Get over it.
20 year Cummins fan/owner, but until they come up with a competetive transmission, I'm done.
I own that truck and love it. The payload is perfect and it matches my 5er perfectly.
Another great video JB. Love what you are doing with the channel.
Thanks bro!
Great review! I picked up the exact same truck (+dual alternators and aux switches) couple months ago at 11% under MSRP. Had a ‘24 w/ HO/Aisin on order but based on my needs (towing 15-16,000 5er 6-7 times a year across mainly flatland), the SO/68RFE more than checks all boxes. It will also be my daily and SO, from my experience driving both on multiple occasions, just has better manners unloaded.
We have had three 2500 cummins with the 68rfe one of which has over 500k miles most of which are towing and have never had a problem at all with the transmission i just bought my first 3500 HO so can't wait to see how they compare
dang look at those mountains
There is no better engine under load for long distance and for longevity than Cummins. It’s made for towing….period.
Cool story bro
@@franklinbarlow8020 facts. Pure facts
Your opinion doesn't make it a fact
@@franklinbarlow8020 no but my life experiences with trucks…farming for years, other mechanics I know and guys in the industry does make it facts. Jerk off
@Franklin Barlow neither does yours. However, statistics prove the Cummins has the highest level of longevity and durability of any of light duty/pickup trucks.
I love the 68RFE on the RAM 3500 dually or single rear wheel.
The Powerstroke, Duramax & Cummins are all great engines with their own pros & cons. I personally think 370 hp/850 tq is more than sufficient to tow most any travel trailer or 5th wheel down the road w/ no issues. This is just my opinion, but I like the fact that the 6.7 Cummins still uses a cast iron cylinder head. It just makes sense that it would be more durable than aluminum, especially w/all the compression of a diesel. (19:1 on the SO motor). The I-6 configuration is vastly more popular in commercial trucking vs the V8. Finally, you cant forget the Ol' Reliable Bosch CP3 fuel pump. The newest iteration of the 68RFE is a great tranny for it's intended purpose. It shifts smooth & fast. I also feel its characteristics promote good fuel mileage. It's not "commercial grade" like an Aisin or Allison 1000 6-speed, but is very dependable if properly maintained. However, it's a dinosaur compared to the competition & Ram needs to upgrade to hold their share of the truck market. ZF Powerline, or the rumored 9-speed Allison would both be great choices.
That set up is absolutely great. The only thing I hear about the 68RFE is if you tune your truck, the transmission will fail. If you are just towing and running around town stock, it’s the best Cummins set without a doubt.
So I’ve heard this about the Aisin, if you run over 50HP TUNE, it will damage it 👍🏾
Nothing is set in stone. My 2017 68 has been deleted and tuned since 2018 with no issues. Closing in on 100k miles. But I have maintained it and don’t mistreat it either. It pulls my trailers and that’s it, no burn outs, drag racing etc. i keep it at a modest power level on my tuner. If I do want to play on a high tune I just roll into the throttle but that just burns through fuel so me being an old fart, cheapo, that has happened a handful of times in 6 years. I realize it’s potentially a weak link and I drive it accordingly. For example I go ahead and downshift when I know I’m coming to a transition in grade to save a shift under heavy throttle, etc. So yeah in stock form this combo should be great!
@@JB_WhoWork It can definitely be an issue. Most guy with the Aisin I see on UA-cam have a simple 40Hp tow tune especially of they have increased the tire size on the truck. The guy that have the 68RFE seem to like the 150hp tunes and they have ripped the tranny apart inside of 6 months. I think if you take care of a tuned truck and don't race it with stock parts you'll be fine..
@@supporterofsanity I agree, you use it as designed and it takes care of you. Some of the people/channels I see on UA-cam, not so much...
My 17 had 342 gears and 37s. I had a billet valve body and converter and my truck was tuned with 68 tuning. Trans was fine if you drive it properly
Considering that the dealer knew you were coming to review one of their trucks, and from that generate a possible sale of said truck, how come they didn't detail it before your arrival ? Is that how they look after their stock ? It's not the first time I've seen reviews where the vehicle is in dire need of a good clean !
Hey, Keep your eyes out for s 2023 Ram 3500 mega cab limited (Silver) at LHM with the HO and Ram boxes. It should be there any day. It was in SLC rail yard last week. I would love to see your video on that truck. Allway a pleasure to login to see what you are up to. Keep up the great videos.
Is it yours?
Buy it! 🤘💯
When you say tow a lot do you mean number of days or the weight? We plan on towing a 11k 5 th wheel all year round, would you go with that HO? Thanks!
I still don't know why the Lo-Cummins get so much hate. Sure, the power "numbers" may appear to be unimpressive in light of the H.O.s 1075, but I would caution anybody on thinking it is not highly capable. One of the misconceptions on the low-output Cummins is the perceived low-reliability of the 68RFE. However, in 2019 the entire transmission was overhauled, with a completely new valve body design and ring gear set. There is definitely a difference in overall quality. One other issue guys love to tune their Cummins for crazy amounts of torque but fail to upgrade the trans, and the 68 is not suitable for much beyond the 850 it handles.
The high output is meant for heavy hauling use. The standard is not meant for this and is a light duty usage combination. It is not geared to tow heavy which is why it’s towing numbers, are unimpressive. The standard Cummins/transmission is for someone who want alittle more towing capability with their rv, but not for someone looking to run a trucking company hauling day in and out. The H.O can easily handle 30k daily where as the standard is I believe in the low 20’s.
@@MonsterTruckingCo. yes. The Aisin is literally a medium-duty transmission, which is nearly bulletproof and is best used in heavy towing/hauling. Most of the complaints are from individuals that only use their HDs for pavement princesses. I own a '20 3500 SRW and it is a beast while under towing. But I can appreciate the more daily-use friendliness of the 850 Cummins.
@@hellkitty1014 yeah I notice that too. I’ve driven the AISIN and it’s drives no better or worse than any other HD truck… it drives like a truck lol, not an SUV. A lot of people get these and think they drive terrible, when in reality, the truck drives great and they are the ones not accustomed to driving such a vehicle. Whenever I hear complaints about the transmission being cluncky or not smooth, I can’t but automatically feel this person never drove an HD before, because anyone used to driving these vehicles, knows they are not SUV smooth.
Just let the truck do it’s thing & it drives fine. I have a HO Cummins with the Aisin & I love it. Have not towed much yet with it but I’m about to start.
Have they finally put a telescoping steering column in?
Where can I buy the Sport Performance Hood online in Delmonico Red for my 2024 Ram 2500 Big Horn Crew Cab?
Ram needs a complete exterior update. The bubble body is seriously outdated.
I actually saw one of these in person at my local dealership today same package Laramie Night Edition Dually not sure if it was high output or standard but the price was $96k. They are nice trucks but man are they expensive.
The hate for the SO Cummins is definitely all about the 68RFE. When I was shopping trucks a few years ago I was doing the same thing: checking each VIN with Ram's online tool to see if it had the 69RFE or the Aisin. It sounds like they improved the 68RFE, which would make the 2020+ SOs sleeper-ish values on the used market.
BTW I'd love to know the max tow numbers on this model. The LO Rams sometimes tow quite a bit less than people would assume.
Man that do look awesome but I have to say I had two rams I guess was made on Friday because on my 22. Laramie I had I had a lots of problems so I traded it for something else, will my next truck be a ram, maybe I loved my ram but for now I pass.
Wish they could figure out why the outside edge of the front tires keep cupping.
Nice. You better have a good gig lined up to pay for it :)
You literally took the words out what I was going to say. When I was spec out my 24 chevy drw, I was telling myself they would kill the industry if the night edition was available for my truck. Chevy takes away tons of options compared to srw.😢😢
That ones pretty.
🤠 that's a truck
Honestly i think the cummins low end and exhaust break make up for any 10 speed. Besides actually working on the trucks as a diesel mechanic id much rather build a trans rather than work on an inferior engine all the time much cheaper overall with how much labor time it takes working on a v8 diesel configuration.
Hey JB this or 2023 Ford Super Duty truck which one you like n recommend
I’m really liking the 2023 Duty! Hoping to check out a dually soon l 👍🏾
Wonder how they got the 4.10's on a '23? That option is no longer available to build online. As soon 4.10 is picked it switches back to the gas engine. Perhaps only the dealers can order the Cummins + 4.10 combo?
Sometimes the online builder is wrong 👍🏾
RAM and Aisin better design an eight/ten speed transmission for their trucks like Ford (torqueshift) and GM (Allison) in order to compete hard.
I have to stop watching these videos. I love my 18 but damn these new trucks are nice.
Ya, every new video I want to just run out and blow money.
Now you know how I feel everyday 🤣
The only thing I hate is that RAM cheaps out on the front turn signals on the HD's. Why have LED lights everywhere on the truck, except the front turn signals?
get a limited. they are led
I can't believe 97K , no HO or Aisin trans! Hope it comes with a heavy duty Flasher for you 4 ways, so when you're on those long steep grades and my Powerstroke or a Duramax comes smoking by you! The Black Out Edition does look good in my mirrors !48 gallon tank standard with a 8 ft. bed , Ram has been[ resting on their laurels] GM and Ford have passed them by.
whoever cleaned that truck, clearly he wasnt into it lol
Personally
I have the hemi but love the cummins. Just didn't want to deal with the you know ! 😕
Rather deal with emissions than try to fight low tow figures that come with the Hemi. Plus the Hemi resale value is awful as it’s not a desired combo for people who do more than daily drive them and weekend RV towing. My dealership here won’t even take Hemi duallys. They take Hemi SRW trucks, because most people buying the Hemi in SRW aren’t towing and typically lift or modify them. The commercial side of the dealer doesn’t deal with the gassers unless it’s a special order from a buyer.
@@MonsterTruckingCo. I second the gas dually point. It is SO HARD to find gas dually models from any of the Big 3 for the last 5-6 model years, let alone one that isn't an absolute stripped down base unit. On top of that, in some cases the gas 1-ton SRW tows slightly more than the gas 1-ton dually because the extra wheels and flares add weight to a truck that is otherwise identical on gearing and suspension. if someone wants a dually and a tow rating near or just over 20k, they are heavily steered towards diesel.
@@SurelyYewJest the ram gas dually has very low towing capabilities. I’m sure it works for weekenders, but I need a truck that can handle 30k easily and still have a resale value when selling it to buy another. The gas does not provide any of those. Engines wear out fast, no resale worth, low towing figures, etc. etc.
I came from a dissel and miss the torque. But I don't tow more the 17k, also not worried about resale to much. With that said, I'm also adding a sc or turbo in the future.
@@mr.eurocarturboit2251 and that will make good power, but also make it unreliable. Most gas engines are high compression, turbos and sc use low compression. Too much towing with a turbo on a non turbo motor, will at some point pop the head gasket. Only a matter of time.
The truck is totally badass but 97k? 🤯
Crazy, isn't it? I have almost the exact same setup in a '22 with the HO+Aisin (but without the side/front camera package) and it was $5k cheaper. HD truck prices are out of control.
Same old interior outdated and $98,000 for this truck😂
Need to get a ford F-450 , F600 too big
The only thing I hate about your videos is when you say things like this truck is going to go fast...
At 97k it pisses me off that people are paying that kind of money
Standard Cummins is for weekend rv’ers, it is NOT a good choice for any type of hauling business. The transmission paired with the s.o, is for light duty use.
Wrong
If that were the case, why are diesel engines usually de-tuned when commercial customers by low-trim fleet models? The LO Cummins in the Ram HD *IS* the powerplant used in commercial versions.
A high output version is honestly a easy up sell for the manufacturer. Although they are different it’s peanuts in cost difference for them. The gain is a no brainer. Human nature to go for the “ more”
@@SurelyYewJest yeah the low Cummins is in the commercial trucks, your not wrong about that. What isn’t in the commercial trucks is the 68rfe. The trans is the weak link, not the motor. 68rfe is garbage for commercial use.
The engines for commercial use are de-tuned for engine longevity.
You should buy this truck brother. LOL JK Buddy JK!
It looks like it’s a used truck because it’s really dirty
Because they always have problems