'Toxic': DeSantis push to transform university drives out students, faculty
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- Опубліковано 28 сер 2023
- Less than a year after Ron DeSantis appointed a new board of trustees to remake New College of Florida in the image of DeSantis' 'war on woke' political stunt, nearly 40 faculty members have left the small school, along with many students, who the board is trying to replace with lower standards and athletic scholarships.
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So instead of biologists, sociologists, educators, engineers, etc. New College will now be turning out a bunch of sports management majors. Because that's what really drives a school's academic rigor and reputation.
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A good point. We may see the future repercussions when most of these people can't get jobs that pay them well enough to survive. Sports are great and all but most of these kids are not going to become professional athletes.
@@Liz-wz8dh Exactly. Baseball (with or without a baseball diamond to practice on) is not going to pay the bills, or even help anyone become a more informed voter. Which may well be the point, I suppose.
Like people don't study multiple fields in College..
Or maybe too many average people are going college/University ?
Local Apprenticeships are better for a lot of people.
And all those posh student flats they have built all over the city centres should be used to help solve the housing crisis (UK) ?
Why is the Governor so threatened by education and educators. This is embarrassing
Because educated people see through his lies.
@@ericapelz260not only that GOP knows younger people tend to for Democrats that's why they are taking over school boards to try to dumb it down
fascism is shameful, we Italians know it well, still a shame 100 years later
He who yells the loudest, has the most to hide
Republicans have repeatedly stated that the reason they vote against educational assistance bills is because a less educated population makes for more Republicans. Not joking, look it up. And what DeSantis is doing is running for president by showing what an awesome Christian Republican he is by battling against an imaginary enemy. Woke means being kind and compassionate, which they want nothing of.
College students are adults, not children. There's no "think of the children" argument to be had here. They're old enough to vote, they're old enough to drive, and many of them are of drinking age. Some of them are over 30 years old. Some are over 50. They're making choices about their future career paths. The government does not have the right to dictate to them what careers they are allowed to have and what they are allowed to learn.
That's not what the deal is
The girl who wanted to study Marine Biology shouldn't choose another major, she should choose a lawyer to sue the school.
She should also get better parents because they wouldn't even let her talk
Or maybe just go to a different school?
@@nickwinn the school may have offered a degree in Marine Biology that she has already spent money on.
She may not have wanted to talk. It’s possible to want to share your story without needing to do a lengthy interview. Stuff also happens in post production, entire shots need to be scrapped etc. Her appearance validated her parents words, most likely
@@betsylaughlin8652 what's up with her appearance?
The dumbing down of America starts with electing dumb politicians.
...that are paid for by billionaires and corporations.
DeSantis isn't dumb. He knows exactly what he is doing and it is dangerous.
You know that’s right.
No it starts with not educating and or /indoctrinating our youth. Look up how the DAR did it in the past.
They are currently farming a generation of non critically thinking idiots. And it’s purposeful. We must educate ourselves.
They, the rich, the powerful, the ruling class... do not want an educated proletariat. That is specifically way they ended free state colleges in the USA in the 1970's, they literally said so.
This is what happens when politicians take to much power and no one stops them.
@@ryant2568 florida has the highest inflation rate in the country half of the children in florida live at or near the poverty line florida has a high cost of living and poor health care rating plus it is full of racists and religious bigots
@@ryant2568 Y'all really like saying things that are the opposite of reality, don't you?
@@ryant2568unaffordable housing costs, fleeing flood and hurricaine insurers, lack of truck drivers construction workers day laborers cause of his racist policies, overcontrol of education which he has NO experience in, open carry laws so more mass shootings in fl will be possible, sargassum flesh eatting bacteria leprocy malaria denge fever lgbtqi hate immigrant hate attacks on womens bodily autonomy!! Desantis is a monster😮😮😮😮😮😮😮
@ryant2568 That absolutely flies in the face of what's being published about Florida here in Ireland, and Britain next door. We see all the reports about mass events and conventions cancelling their Florida gigs, citing Florida's slide backwards in a range of civil rights, attacks on us gays, etc etc. That has a direct and indirect impact on Florida's economy. Meanwhile Florida's education standards are being dismantled, with the removal of mundane content to appease fundamentalists, the teaching that slavery was Good For The Slaves Actually, etc etc. I could easily continue, but I've to go to work - you're either trolling, badly, or you're a fool.
@@ryant2568 All incorrect.
of all the actual problems within the state of florida, this is what legislators are choosing to focus on, like imagine being the representative of a state while literally taking away your constituents education
The word woke was first used in the early 20th century to refer to people who knew the importance of the beginning civil rights movement. Woke means who were aware. I’m proud to be woke.
The far right redefining of woke into something negative is exclusively because it was coined by black folk and they're trying to diminish the human voices in these discussions
That's long time ago. Every ideology at some point turns from liberajtiong to oppression. That's where Woke is now, proofs are everywhere
Yeah woke simply means to be aware of what's going on around you in society. The opposite of asleep. So deathsantis is siding with ignorance
@@kuruptzZzYes, he's using a non harmful term as a GQP dog whistle!
That’s not what it means now…..and if you were aware…you would know that. Many people all over the world are sick of “woke” garbage. France even said it was ruining their country. Again…if you were actually aware…you would know that.
Lifelong Tampa Bay resident here. I hate what DeSantis has done to that college. He talks about not wanting students to be indoctrinated, but his actions tell me he doesn't mind students there being indoctrinated with his political beliefs.
nail on the head. they arent against indoctrination at all. they just want their indoctrination to be mandatory. and most of them are so propagandized that they arent even aware theyve been indoctrinated
Yep. It’s ironic that he is the most militant about indoctrinating Florida students with his political and social ideas and yet is a firebrand against supposed indoctrination. The irony is incredible.
@@bate01071Not nearly as incredible as the hypocrisy.
@@bate01071 everything they say is a projection
Bingo! It’s “indoctrination” when the other side does it…
If this is how Desantis treats college students, imagine what he will do to this entire nation.
A Dutchie here. I sure hope that if Trump is not a candidate anymore, deSantis will not be the alternative. I expect him to be a greater disaster for the USA than Trump. The Trump era has already weakened the systems to an extent that will takd a long time to repair. DeSantis knows the system. He can read and is not as lazy as Trump. And he is interested in far more area's than Trump. I am afraid he will do irreversible damage to the USA and the rest of the world. He is not a mini-Trump but Trump 5.0.
Do the republicans not have a candidate who is not aiming for fascism, will do disastrous things internationally and is qualified like in having worked in public office before. I hate to say it but it seems to me that only Chris Christie and maybe Nick Haley come to mind.
The only republican that I know who would fit, is Liz Cheney. I know I would probably not like her policies but she is at least sane and no fascist.
Will do? You a psychic or Nostradamus? Lol
@@SigmaPathfinderit is said that the best predictor of future behavior is past behavior.
Then move to another country
He’s a sadistic bully! He bullied students at USF into removing their masks during the pandemic. He embarrassed them before he gave his stupid speech. So yes, we have a pattern here where he clearly hates students, especially liberal students, and will do everything he can to hurt them.
It is clear to me that Desantis is not interested in the education of the next generation of our voters.
actually he is very interested in not educating the next generation of voters
@@pahlihubert8009 agreed, its how he and the rest of the GOP rat pack intend to stay in power for life
Like trump, he loves the uneducated
The worst part of seeing stuff like this is the fact that as someone from a different nation, I can’t do anything to help. It really is heartbreaking. That goes for any news that sees human rights violations in action.
Having no Marine Biology courses at a coastal college is like having no agriculture courses at a prairie college.
It's because marine biology addresses climate change, since our oceans are dying. And that is too woke.
Do a quick google search to verify that they DO in fact have a marine biology courses. Dont believe everything you listen to on the internet.
What's with *armed police* at those meetings ? 😬
So you’re saying that every college in coastal states should do marine biology courses no matter if they have the setup for it or not? If the college can just drop marine biology, then they weren’t really equipped to run that class.
No. It wasn't meant as an all or none proposition. I'll fill it in a bit. Specialization is a graduate school gig, not a college gig. A well-rounded, expansive view of the world (citizenship included) is the job of a liberal arts education. I'm saying that it's nonsensical not to use location, location, location in course offering. People who study and teach about the ocean tend to like living by the ocean. Ditto for all kinds of things. Forms an academic community, a place to chat up ideas, research, teaching issues. This is what I was talking about. Thx for point of clarity.
Just sack the last teachers and call it a sports institute. Education obviously has no place in Florida.
This movement by Republican leaders is from the George Floyd death and outrage.
No education, no books, only indoctrination.
Kinda puts the so called Education of meatball Ron into Question as well .
@@josephbearpaw meatball Ron is an elite. Harvard and I believe Yale.
Education has no place in most Red States. It shows.😊
The scary thing is this is “college” level. Not small children. The reasons stated for young children don’t apply here. They literally killed programs that these students were in the middle of completing. This is pathetic. But one that a certain demographic allowed to grow and fester without stopping it. This is part of the beginning of the end game. And all these changes will take many years to undo.
How to return "true academics" to a university:
- Remove programs like marine biology
- Focus on programs like baseball
- Sacrifice young people in the process (it's okay, their lives are inconsequential compared to important things like DeSantis' (unlikely) presidency)
I always thought universities were there to educate and advance learning, not to be glorified sports clubs.
Ridiculous really
It’s all about the money.
A sports club with no baseball field ha! You can’t make that s-it up!
This is SPARTA-SANTIS! Education is weak, we build strong men, REAL men, all muscles and no brain, easy to control! /s
Really, alot of universities have sports programs, what's the problem with that? The idea of changing a program that has been seen as not good, or not in the direction that the state in this instance is., wants , is about - if you dont like it go elsewhere. move on . simple. stop complaining, its life., oh and if its so bad why are they at capacity with students? and no they are not all athletes. Just sayin. This whole report is all one sided.
It’s ironic that they say they value rigorous academics while simultaneously pushing athletics, lowering academic requirements for recruits, and leaving entire departments unstaffed. I feel so bad for this entire generation of Floridians. If this had happened at my university, I would have been gutted.
they don't go far enough actually, leftist corruption of academia needs to be fought harder and worldwide
It's the republican way - keep everyone stupid, so they will still vote for you.
Republicans don’t see the irony or hypocrisy. They say don’t buy into narratives - while creating very particular narratives. They say that the government is weaponizing the departments of education, justice, and law enforcement- and then create their own agencies and subvert equitable practices to fight culture wars. They lie to everyone’s face about what their policies are, sign bills in secret and deny any wrongdoing - while telling you it’s the other party who lies, cheats and steals.
They should all leave.
Government is the problem. End all public institutions.
Exact same thing happening all over the country in the workplace. Extremely under educated and under qualified workers getting thrown into dangerous situations.
Keep fighting girl. Do not let this take you down. Go back and fight.
This country is in serious trouble.
It will be if DeSantis or any Republican becomes president.
Not if ,the people stand up for the Country and the Constitution, and not follow a party that is dead and been taking over by a MAGA/QAnon fascist one. Ron is already acting like a dictator in FLD. DeSantis is using the word Woke like its bad, it shows how dumb he is, DeSantis is not American.
Everything has been in trouble since the beginning of time
If they are removing marine biology then yes!
Yes because of people like you.
A dictator at work.
Exactly, that why he needs to be voted out never to serve in ANY office again
Right. And he's trying to be president? GTFOH 😩
@@Nikki_with_the_blikkiat first I was afraid that Rhonda might be president, now....not so much 😂
@@diamonddiva8376His term is up in 24..Thank God!
Thankfully, dictators actually get things done.
This is so heartbreaking! I am so sorry this sadist governor and his backwards authoritarian legislature have hijacked the state and the one place these kids felt at home. My teenager would have probably thrived at New College before this but we plan to leave FL in 1.5 yrs after they graduate high school after living here 30 years. But we won't stop fighting facism and authoritarianism.
Come to Boston it’s very cold in the winter but we take education very seriously!
This is not only killing the academic performance of students it is also hurting the very athletes that go there because not can do sports forever with no plan B their done in they old age
"we don't have the teachers to teach those class anymore, just pick something else"
That's not how college works, students are there for a reason.
That's predatory to students, to just spend money somewhere that doesn't benefit them.
A lot of grants will not even allow you to just change majors in midstream, and if you do you lose many of your credits.🤔
I’d sue the college for my full tuition. The amount I would’ve spent if I was able to get my degree there instead of switching schools.
And once again, who elected DeSantis ? If he’s doing harm in Florida. He’ll do even worst as a presidential candidate, even worst as a president.
The fact that one man can do all this undemocratic stuff, just goes to show you we are not as free or democratic as we pretend to the world we are.
He has way too much power.
We have been ruled by the minority for far too long.
@@cryptoenthusiast4999that power was given to him by ignorant Florida voters. He didn't take it.
It seems like whenever there is need for the people not a thing can get done, but whenever it's more money for the wealthy, or more power for the dictator du jour it happens in the blink of an eye and there is nothing we can do to stop it.
@@randal_gibbons
It doesn’t help that the republican legislature is writing laws to fit his agenda.
"Toxic" seems like an understatement!
Desantis is not capable of defining what "woke" means
He just taught all those young people how important politics is. I hope they come roaring back come election time.
“We are five days away from fundamentally transforming the United States of America.” - Barack Obama, October 30, 2008
“We are going to have to change our conversation; we’re going to have to change our traditions, our history; we’re going to have to move into a different place as a nation.” - Michelle Obama, May 14, 2008
He’s done more for them than any politician in American history.
@@johnmartin4641Please clarify.
@@johnmartin4641By getting Southern "rebels" to fall in line with the government? We Yankees always knew that " rebel" blood is weak sauce.
They should also transfer out so they don’t have any more money!
This is ridiculous
honestly it sounds like money being pushed around to make it's attendance look better than it is, all while taking away things that made the college good to begin with, just because DeSantis wants to pick a fight, and show his so called power. Please... this is disgusting, and so is he.
Exactly right on all counts.
What exactly do think made college great? Because right now its a 4 year daycare pumping out retail workers and alcoholics.
@@PonyJarCollector Just because *you're* a drunk working at BestBuy...
@@Teeveepicksures projection? Stay mad because I’m right, you goblin.
@@PonyJarCollector Like you know anything. Low IQ DeSantis nuthugger.
Sounds like grounds for lawsuit for those sophomores and higher in the gender studies major. If you offer a major and then eliminate it in midstream, enrolled students incur a cost if all their credits don't transfer.
`get rid of some of the political window dressing.` says the politician...🤦
That girl who was taking a Marine Biology degree, but had no advisors and no staff available suddenly with no warning- I absolutely would fight to have all loans forgiven and possibly ask or file for some sort of financial reimbursement for all the time spent on a degree that would become nonexistent without warning or sue for my money and time (valued) back for all I put in. That is, since the college cannot complete the program. Absolutely insane of that school.
Yup, she went in for certain degree and it disappeared. There must be some legal consequences for this.. mean while we're locking up hungry folks for stealing a candy bar lol.. the law does not apply to the rich and powerful apparently
if that that possible all California collage would be bankrupt
You don't get money back for and education you already recieved. You should get any money back for anything you paid in advance for. There are marine biology classes all over this state. We are surrounded on 3 sides by 2 different oceans.
@@JohnJohn-nh2rl😅
Marine biology is woke how?
Ron DeSantis is such a wormy little tyrant
I don't really believe in conspiracies but He's as close to a lizard person as you can get!🦎
That's the oldest whiny kid in the world.
Here is where i saw the word tyrant and its meaning....
The Second Amendment, ratified in 1791, was proposed by James Madison to allow the creation of civilian forces that can counteract a tyrannical federal government.
Wormy little puppet
that "tyrant" is statistically speaking the best governor in the country.
I feel bad for the kids who are just trying to get an education at an institution that they thought would be best for them. I did think it was weird that the parent had to do the talking for that one marine biology student
I miss playing raquetball at New College. I roomed with someone who went there. They offered him a chance to study something that virtually no other college would have. Seemed like a cool experiment in learning.
Experiments lead to progress!
It's clear to me what Ron DeSantis is doing.. He's trying to close "independent" schools of thoughts and knowledge.!!
And being a dictator!
And probably that's why China is succeeding
Well good? They give out scam degrees anyways. Imagine having a BA in gender studies and shelling out 6 figures rofl. I could teach you everything you need to know about gender with three words for free: there’s only two
So now claiming men can get pregnant is "independent thinking"? OK, quack.
@@kommisar. TROLL ALERT
I used to be shocked at all the cruel, irrational, and malevolent behavior originating from DeSantis's office too. Then I learned he directly supervised the sanctioned mistreatment and torment of individuals detained indefinitely at Guantanamo Bay prison camps in Cuba when he was in the Navy, which explains why he's such a vile human being. You gotta remember, detainees there never had trials. They were just held for years, it didn't' matter if they were guilty or innocent. If you're able to tolerate it, you can research the topic, he did all kinds of stuff to those people including forced feedings. Of COURSE he dismantled a college.
Typical coward. Does all that with the protection of the state. Alone he crawls into a ball and cries.
Wow. That explains a lot.
I've tried to use this for an argument against him and the right just immediately says "well theres nothing that can truly prove that happened so he must be innocent. It was made up."
@Riley0509 yeah, right?
Governor Putin...how's that?
An elected gov appoints trustees in a public college and is accused of being Toxic. What?😅
This should happen all across the country ....
As an alum of Stony Brook University who was there when they tried to cancel Marine Bio as a major because they said it was a budgetary need, you can sue and you can win. Universities cannot take your money and then fail to deliver what was promised.
They needed the money for the gender studies department
Til DeSantis comes along … firing judges and prosecutors who disagree with him…
@@palominox64 That is what the people of Florida want. That is why DeSantis won in a landslide.
I just said that same comment. She just wanted all that time and money on a program that the college suddenly bailed on and didnt offer a reasonable accommodation.
Really? They do it all the time... How many gender studies/afroX studies majors have you met that end up working at Chili's and the like because I've met a ton.
How can they explain not having Marine Biology in a state that is literally surrounded by water.
If I were a student I would sue. They have every right to have their money refunded.
You can be sure that the contract signed indemnifies the college against such action. Criminal fraud, perhaps.
Marine Biology is not a specialized class and won't be respected since this is a liberal arts school. Every major university in Fl offers marine biology so a serious student would enroll at a school that specializes in it to attend that school.
It's Trump University all over again! 😂
I like that point and am so thankful to the people protecting the marine life down there. Also, I love manatees. They need more help than ever.
Marine Biology teaches that evolution is real, and you can't have that in a Christian Nationalist state.
Our children must never give up! We can never give up on our children either!
It's a sports school, nothing academic about it, smh
I feel horrible for those students and faculty. They are dumbing down that college. Why is he so afraid of people being educated and not sharing his same views?
Because educated people wouldn't vote for a demagogue like him & he'd have to try to find another job where he'd have to, actually, do some WORK.
When people are taught to form their own opinions and do their own research, we call this becoming educated. Educated people overwhelmingly vote Democrat. Not all of them, but a great majority. Most republicans are blue collar, average "Joes" who are so used to being told what to do, what to think, and how to vote, that they never consider there might be an alternative.
Republicans value power, authority, and control while masking it behind other facades. If colleges teach students to become educated, the GOP loses a large portion of its base and will likely never win an election again. This is why they want cookie cutter schools, colleges, and universities to create good "workers" who do as they are told and don't bother applying critical thinking skills, instead of good leaders who will challenge the status quo.
Again, not every Republican feels this way, this is a broad generalization that has been exacerbated by Trump and the MAGA Crowd.
Fascism. That’s how it works.
@@ProctorsGamble delusional bot
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i’m a trans junior who lives and goes to school in a conservative neighborhood. i’ll be looking at colleges this year, and knowing that this could happen to me in the next couple years is beyond heartbreaking. i cant believe how far back in time we’re going. this is how genocide starts.
Ohhhh nooo! DeSantis took out the trash!!
You're definitely going to want to look outside the state. At least him losing the nomination will mean that the damage he can do is limited to one state.
@@commonsense6967be quiet bully
If you want a safer college experience try the mid Atlantic or west coast colleges.
Did they do anything to trans students? If they had, surely we would have heard about it in the video, but we didn't ...
So this Liberal Arts college, is now a Conservative Arts college.
This is the creep of fascism. Ruffo and Desantis need to be punished right out of office.
Fascism is when the US Govt colludes with big tech corporations to silence speech on social media platforms. I'm thinking you were all for that.
The reputation of a college matters a lot when it comes time to get a job.
A degree from this college is going to be worthless.
It already is. My opinion is unpopular but objectively true. Uni should only focus on law and STEM fields. All other courses could be axed if you ask me. So I don't care about a gender studies lol. Good riddance. It's a worthless course. Doesn't progress our species at all.
Does that mean I support republicans or I am right wing? No. But see. In the past, those supporting science were considered left wing.
European countries have already stated they will NOT accept any FL educated ppl into their workforce or to even emigrate/move to there.
@@Lumi_Lumi13deplorables don’t travel abroad and when they do they just complain how it’s not like the crap hole they came from.
@@oneof6billionpeopleYou will find Men also study Gender studies, there are many jobs around the world where it is valuable, having studied it myself for a semester it is very interesting and enlightening, it also didn’t make me feel insecure unlike someone like you. But I’m nearly 60 and aren’t scared by strong smart women, I dated a Gender Studies Professor and Author of a number of books, much smarter than me.
@oneof6billionpeople My neice minored in women's studies. She runs diversity for a large, international co and makes just under 400K. And you?
The path to a totalitarian police state....
School board meeting with a lot of police in full tactical gear present...??
When is the book burning event..??
What’s so special about this college that it’s a BIG issue???
As a parent of a HS senior looking at colleges, thank you for taking the entire state off the table for every kid I know. Sorry, no out of state tuition for you!
And Florida (lots of red states) can't staff their grammar or high schools, either. Look at ANY school careers site now that school has started. 100s of openings. Everyone has left the career or moved to a bluer, saner state. No one wants to deal with the screaming parents who demand 'my way or the highway' and parrot Trumpian talking points. The school board meetings became dangerous and then these same people complained about being labeled terrorists when they were threatening and doxxing people. Okay, YOU figure out how to homeschool and babysit your kids during the day then (along with a full time job).
Yes! Send your kids to real universities!
@@kiyoko5523New College is now just a political football for authoritarians and their clueless marks. Like the rest of our new far-right leaders, DeSantis needs indoctrination specifically aimed at young people because truthful education is dangerous for authoritarianism.
@@signalfire6691 To be fair, not all of us are insane like that lol. Also, I grew up with the Alabama public school system and I was extremely lucky to have great grammar teachers. Hearing most southerners talk makes me want to rip my ears off.
Florida Atlantic University is an excellent place in a great city, Boca Raton.
This is really strange and disheartening for students, faculty and parents. Students and faculty are suddenly finding classes they were taking or taught are no longer available. Most of the new students are athletes who really don't meet the qualifications. The Board is now run by unqualified people who were appointed by the Governor. Students had already been at the school are forced to leave while others feel trapped, so Sad 😢
You use to need straight A’s to get in there
This is authoritarianism.
Yeah sounds like Hitler
Great example of the dumbing down of America, as a reply to "wokeness". The New College is bound to fail, does DeSatan understand that?
The new fascist will shut down all freedoms if we let them.
The evolution of our country cannot be stopped. Not by Ruffo, not by Trump, not by anyone. There is too much momentum, and too many people - especially young people.
Not a multi cultural mix and it’s plain to see. Could easily be a boot camp for secret soldiers...
The only "political window dressing" is what's coming from DeSantis and his regime.
keep believing that while watching msnbc lol the irony. Can you possibly be so lost that you don't Realize how toxic mainstream media is😢
They always project what they're doing themselves...
Those students becomes his private army/soldiers, brainwash to be his shields/defense, do his biddings, vote for him, and etc.‼️ Isn't it sounds like North Korea⁉️ 🙄🤔🤢🤬
I believe he's referring to the LBTGQYFV84$%
@@Spectre-wd9dl agreed! Absolutely asinine that people would have to work to be treated equally and without contempt in the US in the year 2023AD. Absolutely *_asinine._*
There’s a really good lawsuit there for students who had their majors removed from the college catalog because they were there to study that topic and if the topic is no longer available to receive a degree they deserve a your money back and they might be due punitive damages if their credits do not transfer to other schools due to no fault of their own. I hope they sue when the school offers students a place to take their studies and they choose to interrupt that in the middle of the course of study, they don’t have their teachers anymore because they chose to shift to other priorities, and I think that that cannot go unpunished the university made a commitment to the students.
You going to pay for the lawyers?
@@fmlazarYou've never heard of _pro bono?_
You've never heard of attorneys who will waive their fee in order to provide legal representation to those who are unable to afford it because it's for a cause they believe in?
Not everything comes down to dollars.
A class-action suit only requires one lawyer.
Anything else you're not clear on?
Go ask the New College board.
nrn eod
'bye now
@@queenswillrule Yes and I've heard of unicorns too. Your point?
Right, there's no guarantee that an attorney will pick up this gauntlet...get real. It costs money to litigate.
They should sue. It’s their money and time.
This makes my heart bleed....
Rufo seriously acted against someone for getting spittle on his shoe? And then took it so far as to have her leave school? This proves he is truly concerned about the academic future of young Americans.
It's her story that she spit on his shoe. But even that is a battery under Florida law which is a crime. Crimes are not permitted on campus. Conservative students have been mocked, ridiculed, hounded. Conservative professors are not hired. Civility is returning. Get used to it. If you can't express your views without spitting on somebody you do not belong on campus.
Following in the footsteps of Trump - installing the worst people for the job wherever possible!
I was just thinking the same the correlations between the two is pretty scary and he is only going to get worse
Kakistocracy!
Desanctimonius and his minions are nothing but a bunch of HYPOCRITE FREEDOM KILLERS !!.
Sad.
@@placitas52 - I learned a new term today - thank you!
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I remember when Republicans used to talk about keeping government out of things as much as possible. Out of schools, out of homes, out of businesses. "Government is the problem." I never used to agree, but I'm starting to see what their point was back then. If the government wasn't completely backwards, maybe it wouldn't be this bad.
Keep shemales out of public sight
They lied then and they lie now. Ron DeFascist, big government on his terms.
Republicans project their authoritarian ideology to everyone, they claim it's the left indoctrinating our children Then they turn around and have committees to implement those very forms of control. It's not a secret, it's moris code, a dog whistle, a call to action.... They can all hear what's being said and where to fall in line. it's those of us defending democracy that get blind sided by the blatant hypocrisy.
Forced the hand with all the oppressing individuals cause they are white and straight, child grooming! Gross
It's a tool, an implement. Government. It's all in how it is used. Government is designed as the solution. But when it's implemented incorrectly, lacking civil rights, Government then becomes the problem.
Same with guns. 2A and guns are by design the solution. When human/civil rights violations and immature behavior mix with guns, Guns now become a problem and no longer a solution.
What is his problem with that college?!
"As a form of protest i spit on the ground". Disgusting.
I don't understand how a governor has the power or authority to dictate the curriculum of universities. What kind of world have we become?
Followup: For all you commenters explaining how it's done, that's not my question. We would never allow a medical school's curriculum or physics class to be written or dictated by the government. But that's what is happening in Florida. Are we going to allow DeSantis to force medical schools to teach that bloodletting is how you cure cancer or that trepanation is how to treat depression or schizophrenia? That's basically what's happening.
What's so unusual about this? Authoritarian regimes often dictate academics. We chose to live without freedom, so the government is doing what governments always do in countries like ours.
@@tofu_golemeducation is a federal thing though, I think that's the point. How does he have the power to do this over the Board of Education?
@@alexs1640 It is not a national/federal thing. In each state there is a State University system in place. While New College started out private it later merged with the Unisity of South Florida making it a State of Florida University. As such, it is controlled (ultimately) by the State of Florida. How you can tell if a university is state funded/controlled is if it has a state name, such as University of Michigan, University of Texas, University of Tennessee, University of Arkansas and so on.
@@pat_in_va8605 I thought even state universities were partially funded by federal tax dollars and overseen by the Dept of Education. But I guess I'm wrong in that. So the DOE is only for public k-12? Strange as state and federal tax dollars go to those schools but it stops at the college level?
I used to be shocked at all the cruel, irrational, and malevolent behavior originating from DeSantis's office too. Then I learned he directly supervised the sanctioned mistreatment and torment of individuals detained indefinitely at Guantanamo Bay prison camps in Cuba when he was in the Navy, which explains why he's such a vile human being. If you're able to tolerate it, you can research the topic, he did all kinds of stuff to those people including forced feedings. Of COURSE he dismantled a college.
Hold yourselves accountable Florida for voting DeSantis into office
Gets together to Tallahassee, march and make all the noises until he resign. 😮😊
They should hold their heads high and be proud.
Not everyone voted for that MFer
I Did Not and Would Not Vote for Duhsantis Or Gaytz Or The Gouh Scott, who is Now In the Senate even After he was busted for healthcare Fraud 🤨 ✌️
*Goofy voice* He huk! And I’ll do it again!
Florida wanted this and overwhelmingly voted for this man
Yes all white Supremacist/republican
Lord what happened to Freedom??????
NO marine biology in a Florida college?!!! Is that what they call rigorous academics?
Sooooo many ignorant right wing religious voters in Fl put the beast in charge of Fl
They asked for him, the rest of us have to suffer the consequences ! Dems aren’t perfect! Republicans are tyrannical hypocrites hiding behind their religion, and cherry picking their religious books AND the constitution to justify their hypocritical , corporatist, greedy, and bigoted behavior
Us Floridians who refused to drink the Trump/ DeSantis / “christian” republican koolaid are paying a very high price for the idiocy of others!
I want my quirky and purple Florida back!
It will take years to get her back!
The governor is more into physically robust waterboarding. Oh, and he played baseball, hence the new focus on baseball at the New College.
No Marine Biology in a Liberal Arts college. Not really surprising.
@@jeremymead8546 you'd be surprised about how many top liberal arts colleges teach biology - in the Florida context with lots of coasts and mangrove areas, not offering marine biology courses appears to be a missed opportunity to stand out nationally.
@@jeremymead8546 that's not even the issue here, how does an entire curriculum simply disappear without notice???! thats actually insane!
The Florida boycott should be hard, and welcoming professors and students from Florida should be a top priority in other universities.
Actually a lot of universities are hesitant to accept people from Florida due to how crippled and anti-education Florida's schools have become.
Yeah because everyone needs marine biology and gender studies teachers.
@@AB-hn6gbActually, yes, every school in Florida offers these courses.
I thought elections were the will of the people.....I guess they're only the will when YOU win
A lack of diversity and higher education is exactly what the MAGA cult wants for Florida and America at large.
True academic means telling all the truth not sugar coating it.
everything is going to burn to the ground
Very troublesome that we are letting this to happen in America.
But not surprising.
It's very troubling woke ideologie was allowed to get so far.
@@jeffspicolli593what's the definition of woke?
@@hrv4908exactly
@Jroc84 anything that destroys American values
DeSantis governance has been disastrous for Florida.
This is just horrific! Just horrific. Just SMH in despair for the students and the staff. Peace.
This reminds me of when the ministry took over Hogwarts and fired Dumbledore.
There is not a Republican party anymore it's the confederate party now
Fascist party now, for sure
@@Nikki_with_the_blikkiyou took the words right out of my mouth thank you
Call the republicains what they are "The Repugnant Party", a party of hate & division with NO POLICIES to help the poor or average american, only policies to extend their BIGOTRY & FEAR while also giving themselves more power to exert narrow, closed minded believes.
More like the DONATION party = what do YOU want 4 $....???
Indeed, the Republican Party has been eaten-alive from within by Trumpism.
Only the shell with the name remains.
It is filled with RINOs that side with Trump.
Why doesn't Ron just close all schools in Florida at this point?
Then he could save all those teachers salaries and put it towards his private militia?! The man is a nightmare. Wannabe dictator. Has he actually done ANYTHING that has ended up good for Florida??? ANYTHING???
Since when does relying on PragerU constitute an academic boon? Or banning books? Look, if Florida is doing well after all these things, it is in spite of what Ron is doing, not because of, and you can take pride in being a Floridian.
But then again, I don't think having less than an 80% adult literacy rate is that great, one of the lowest ones in the USA.
And last time I checked, DeSantis banned talking about US Slavery like it was a bad thing (It was) because it hurts the feelings of people. The issue of gender is just a matter of respect, not a matter that is weighed alongside academics, so don't act like they are on the same scale.@@ryant2568
That might look bad… give him a year😂
Your fingers haven’t fallen off yet, Ryant? I lost count of how many posts you have said that same line in.
Give it a break. Troll.
Oh, DeSantis needs the schools. He has accused them of indoctrinating students in “woke” ideology, when it is he that wants the schools to indoctrinate kids to be intolerant and hateful.
Thank God someone has the courage to push out the neo Marxist disaster universities have become. My grandparents learned the same curriculum during their 3 years in a Soviet gulag.
I live in Germany, here no politician would ever have a say in staffing matters at a uni. What is this?
''I love the poorly educated.''
Donald tRUMP and Ron DeSanctimonious
Cyanide Puddin Fingers.
Right
Are we supposed to infer that the moral stance is to hate the poorly educated?
@@lynnrunningdeer7364 Gitmo Grad
@@Plexippuspetersi92 No, it is to educate the poorly educated, but to acknowledge that they are poorly educated, and therefore likely to have poorly informed opinions.
Wow, attacking young adults and their parents is total cowardice.
Right?! I thought old Rhonda was all about "parents rights"! I guess only if the parents agree with his ideology, huh?😮
Not if they're weak
@@Lionsmanemanthat is exactly right!
@@Lionsmaneman who's 'rhonda'?
@@wakawakawilly9365 Ron DeSantis=Rhonda just a cute little nickname
The students need a class action suit. changing the college, nationally known for its innovative liberal concepts to a public Christian College is a complete violation and betrayal of every student who is currently registered.
What has happened to our country???😢
Guy had to arm-twist a teenage girl by filing a lawsuit against her. Speaks volumes about him as a man.
All because a little bit of spittle may or may not have hit his shoe…what a fricken pansy
She should have fought it!! It was a frivolous use of law. Now that is actually a crime!!!
Rhonda Santis is a complete Karen gurl.😢😮😂❤🤍💙
@@notfiveo psychotic voting base
Yeah what a snowflake, and a snake-like one too
This is the process of dumbing down a whole country 😢
Its easier to control mindless bodies that do what they’re told than people who ask why.
Conservatives have been at that endeavor for decades. They are absolutely against an educated populace capable of critical thinking. Today's conservatives are nothing less than the Fourth Reich.
Its like Desatan wanted a failed trump university! Praying for the students and families that were railroad out of education! I hope that this stops somehow❤
They should get their money back and, if not, sue the college on contingency.
Ya they should get their money back because colleges teaching kids that men can get pregnant is ridiculous.
Florida will quickly end up being the state of old retired people and tourists.
Why would any young person with ambitions ever consider Florida as an option for education?
Especially young women! No reproductive health care.
Why would they even consider it for place of employment?
That’s what Florida already is. No other reason to even go there at this point, it’s just a risk to your well being.
Not even that. Home insurance companies are leaving and those staying are drastically raising rates. Not just for homes either but boats, rvs, all the expensive toys retirees and tourists like to have.
The beaches are becoming toxic, the weather even more destructive, the state is going downhill.
DeSantis just wants it to be a place he can use for votes to be President and after that he is fine to let it rot.
It's depressing for the young people who grew up in Florida and will have to leave for a proper education.
Students and Teachers leaving Florida, Healthcare Workers leaving Florida, Insurance Companies leaving Florida and Disney pulling the plug on adding on in Florida. Last person leaving Florida, turn out the lights please.
Florida is also sinking
@@agridulce3532It’s true we are. Even at the small community college I work at the little dorms that do exist are reserved for sports students only. None of our students can get in touch with their advisors, if they even have one. It’s gotten to a point that student-tutors are the ones helping their classmates fill out FAFSA, forms, recommend classes and register for them. It’s ridiculous. Our tutoring lab has 2 tutors-that’s it.
This is fascism.
Nothing says "firmly grounded in the liberal arts" like starting a baseball team.
As an academic in Ireland (I lecture in English literature), I just can't get my head around this. It would literally be impossible for this to happen in an Irish (or British) university.
No one can get their head around this. It makes zero logical sense. It's all a political stunt by DeSantis despite him saying it's not about politics. It's literally the only reason he is doing it.
Which part would be impossible? A politician / political party being able to get members of the faculty / board of a university fired or replaced?
@cor144 reading comprehension must not be your thing?
England & Ireland are mature society, would not even think about that sort of BS.
Yeah a lot of things which happen here must seem a bit irregular to people living in countries such as yours.
Mass shootings almost every day, parents sending their kids to school with bulletproof backpacks, January 6th insurrections, etc. But we've been told by MAGA Republicans that they're working on making this place "great again", so we're not really worried. 👍🍔🍟🥤😋🇺🇸
Ron setting up a school in his image, a school for bullies?
I was at college in the 1980s, I don't recall seeing any police on campus, least of all in a board meeting? The absurdity of a college board needing a police presence. Pure bullying.
Idiocracy is coming for America.
Omg this is like the movie “Revenge of the Nerds:Adams College.”
Youth keep fighting for your rights! Do what you need, study and get the heck out into the world and make the world a better place. ❤ You all have the power you just have to ban together and keep fighting together to make lasting change. 🎉
Nobody is taking a florida "education" seriously these days.
To take on debt for a lesser and nationaly worthless degree seems like a bad idea.
I don't blame people for leaving.
Either the institutions or the the state.
If I were hiring and I saw a Florida education...they would go to the bottom of the pile. Florida University degrees are going to be worthless in years to come.
What are you talking about?????
Florida's education system is considered one of the best in the country in national rankings.
P.S. Florida's population is actually growing not shrinking.
Where are you getting your information?
@@ryant2568Was that ranking achieved before or after they began teaching slavery benefitted slaves and downplayed Florida's history of slavery?
You seem to have missed the "these days" part.
A lot of people stuck in the last year will be surprised about Florida's direction.
Its not as rosy as you think it js.
@@ryant2568 that was before your governor started banning books and cutting minority courses you are willfully ignorant
@@ryant2568NOT any more😂😂😂😂😂😂
Yep, prioritising baseball is definitely a sign of "rigorous academics that are firmly grounded in liberal arts".
It is a bid for the Latino vote.
it has nothing to do with Latinos and everything to do with DeSantis being on a baseball team in college.
Almost all Canadian universities have no baseball. They have lower tuition and high graduation rates. Something is wrong with the American university system.
With no baseball field no less! God, how farcical.
@@deloresmatt8643a political stunt! Where is Florida Attorney General Ashley Moody, whose duty it is to PROTECT Florida citizens from this lawless exploitation of our higher education institutions?
Unbelievable
If they no longer have the faculty for the classes these people were promised and payed for then the college should have to refund their tuition.
No they should sue to DeSantis for their education back. That's the only way any of this is going to end is a lawsuits
As Amellia said, the only way is to take it to court. However, that is probably what DeSantis wants. The conservative district and circuit courts will probably strike down the case in favor of DeSantis. Republicans and racist hated losing control in the 60s and 70s, so they are taking it back, one state at a time.
Unfortunately you both are right and this will have to be settled in the courts which is a waste of money and time for something that should just be automatically done.
Vote blue and get rid of the worst Florida governor.