That was really impressive. 🙏thank you. What other videos would take thousands of words and hundresd of theories You demonstrated in under a minute. Relearning the importance of practicals. Everything was so clear to see and understand.
That is how most of these systems are made because you have very few options for a air tight connection. In ultra high vacuum systems the problem is actually helium atoms getting sucked through the glass.
Hello Luciano, thank you for sharing your knowledge ! We wanted to try to coat a mirror of 60 cm, how important is to rotate the mirror inside the chamber ?
Thanks for sharing. I presume that you use a tungsten filament. Can you tell me how many milligrams of Aluminum oxyd did you use and ay what temperature is the vaccum chamber ?
Setup up two stage evap, 1) metal layer, 2) Carbon, what is deposits as a sapphire layer protecting the metal layer. Be careful with gold, it goes everywhere during evap. Where are you in the world? anywhere near Portland, OR, USA? I am a High Vac Design engineer....
Wow that's amazing. Thanks for sharing. Just a question do we really need vaccum or do we just need an oxygen free chamber? Can we fill the space with say helium and achieve the same result?
Did you notice the effort he went to to create the vacuum? If you just have to fill with inert gas then that is what everyone would do. You need a vacuum.
Hello , its seem a nice good work , i ask you if its possible to use the same machine for coat antireflexive on the lens surfaces? Of course with magnesium fluoride
Spectrum-Coatings, Majestic Coatings, Owl Laboratories. These are first surface coaters. For a regular mirror, best just to buy a kit and DIY. No chamber needed but you do need a VERY clean work area.
@@wannabe8x6 Due to the oxygen in the air that will react to everything but also due to the air pressure it self that is to high so the aluminium vapor would not even reach the mirror and if something will be able to reach it the surface will be far from shiny due to severe oxidation of the metal on its way. The tungsten coil will also be attacked by the oxygen and tungsten trioxide would also be made du to this which is a yellow substance and also not shiny one bit. You have to get the right equipment so you can get down to at least 5-E6 Torr before even thinking about doing something like this. A turbo pump is expensive but easier to handle but absolutely nothing is allowed to fall down in it no matter the size when it is on so its very sensitive but it will not emit anything into the chamber like oil or such. The other thing to use is a diffusionpump (used in the video) that is much cheaper but require a special type of little expensive oil and a DP will leak small amounts of oil into the chamber that could be bad for what you are doing or not a problem. But you usually use a special type of baffle that prevent like 99.99& of any oil to enter the chamber that should be enough, otherwise you need to use liquid nitrogen or similar to really remove pretty much all of it. And with a diffusion pump so if a nut will fall into it, it will just go on like nothing happen. If the same would happen with a turbo pump at full sped you would run and the pump would also be totally destroyed after that, it would be a very dangerous situation. So they both have their pros and cons but one of them is needed to be able to do what is done in the video, and also a rouging pump.
That was really impressive.
🙏thank you.
What other videos would take thousands of words and hundresd of theories
You demonstrated in under a minute.
Relearning the importance of practicals.
Everything was so clear to see and understand.
This is extremely impressive, I love seeing other people make incredible DIYs. You must really love the stars 😅🙏
So clever to use a magnet to turn the mirror blank!
That is how most of these systems are made because you have very few options for a air tight connection. In ultra high vacuum systems the problem is actually helium atoms getting sucked through the glass.
I need this in my garage.
You have a very nice setup... I can only dream about that vaccum pump
Nice. Thanks for posting. Can the mirror be overcoated with your present configuration?
Congratulations this is brilliant, What great work. I'm curious why does the aluminum vapor rise if the vacuum is present?
Its heat energy like water boiling. Al ion gas shoot off it metal because it has higher energy than it's neighbor atom.
@@alexlo7708 Its neighbor atom practically doesn't exist tho . Vacuum??
@@aerosoapbreeze264 neighborhood in solid metal surface.
@@aerosoapbreeze264 They must have source metal in vapor disposition.
Argon gas is pumped in after vacuum if i remember correctly
That is awesome!
I think I'm dying of hardware envy.
FASCINATING!!!!!!! Thanks 👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼
Excellente and fascinating!!
Hello Luciano, thank you for sharing your knowledge ! We wanted to try to coat a mirror of 60 cm, how important is to rotate the mirror inside the chamber ?
ua-cam.com/video/75AoWl3jhcQ/v-deo.html&app=desktop
Thanks for sharing.
I presume that you use a tungsten filament. Can you tell me how many milligrams of Aluminum oxyd did you use and ay what temperature is the vaccum chamber ?
do you want tungsten filaments? we are supplier
Great information thanks...I need to fix my mirror...
DIY plating would be nice
Wow, good job!
Excellent.
Setup up two stage evap, 1) metal layer, 2) Carbon, what is deposits as a sapphire layer protecting the metal layer. Be careful with gold, it goes everywhere during evap. Where are you in the world? anywhere near Portland, OR, USA? I am a High Vac Design engineer....
Как телескоп Главное зеркало своими руками спасибо ❤️
Kak telescope Do-it-yourself main mirror Thanks ❤️😁👍✨🤩👍🔭 okay
Hello I want to make a machine to make coating to my mirrors. You can help me with the parts I need to do something similar. Thank you
Is this Silver wire? Or Titanium/Tungsten heating wire? So ist this mirror Silver/Titanium/Tungsten coated?
Congratulations
Wow that's amazing. Thanks for sharing. Just a question do we really need vaccum or do we just need an oxygen free chamber? Can we fill the space with say helium and achieve the same result?
Did you notice the effort he went to to create the vacuum? If you just have to fill with inert gas then that is what everyone would do. You need a vacuum.
Good job, but i cant see clearly what method you used ? PVD ? CVD?
PVD
Slick.
It is quite a complex pump. What is the minimum required vacuum pressure ?
Can you give purchasing link for this vaccum chamber?I m from india
Plz send all components link in English. I am very much interested to make it
Hello , its seem a nice good work , i ask you if its possible to use the same machine for coat antireflexive on the lens surfaces? Of course with magnesium fluoride
Its a mirror, why would you want AR coating?
Excelente
What size tungsten wire did you use? 3*08mm?
That machine.under its the turbomolecular bumb?
Hola donde puedo conseguir este equipo, saludos!
LOL! DIY bell jar?
How hard is this to make? They are like at least 5k on ebay
Hi. Was there any way you could measure the pressure/reverse pressure?
Reverse pressure, as in vacuum?
Очень просто!
Circuit please
Search magnetron sputtering on UA-cam
He used a variac to power the element
@@shrikantpatil3924 This is not magnetron sputtering, it's regular thermal deposition...
Can you sell me a machine of this type
So from where did you steal all that equipment?
Do you know anywhere I can have things sent to do this? I have parts needing coating.
Spectrum-Coatings, Majestic Coatings, Owl Laboratories. These are first surface coaters. For a regular mirror, best just to buy a kit and DIY. No chamber needed but you do need a VERY clean work area.
Kewl
Hello, can it be done with a simple vacuum pump? Thank you
Cannot be done with a simple vacuum pump
Ok , Thank you. Obrigado
May I know why?
@@wannabe8x6 Due to the oxygen in the air that will react to everything but also due to the air pressure it self that is to high so the aluminium vapor would not even reach the mirror and if something will be able to reach it the surface will be far from shiny due to severe oxidation of the metal on its way.
The tungsten coil will also be attacked by the oxygen and tungsten trioxide would also be made du to this which is a yellow substance and also not shiny one bit. You have to get the right equipment so you can get down to at least 5-E6 Torr before even thinking about doing something like this.
A turbo pump is expensive but easier to handle but absolutely nothing is allowed to fall down in it no matter the size when it is on so its very sensitive but it will not emit anything into the chamber like oil or such.
The other thing to use is a diffusionpump (used in the video) that is much cheaper but require a special type of little expensive oil and a DP will leak small amounts of oil into the chamber that could be bad for what you are doing or not a problem. But you usually use a special type of baffle that prevent like 99.99& of any oil to enter the chamber that should be enough, otherwise you need to use liquid nitrogen or similar to really remove pretty much all of it.
And with a diffusion pump so if a nut will fall into it, it will just go on like nothing happen. If the same would happen with a turbo pump at full sped you would run and the pump would also be totally destroyed after that, it would be a very dangerous situation.
So they both have their pros and cons but one of them is needed to be able to do what is done in the video, and also a rouging pump.
@@dtiydr oiless vacuum pump thats it
Kak ....?.... by their by hand
What is the actual name of the process being employed here? Sputtering?
+Junkers Yes is sputtering.
hello, is it possible to make a half mirror with only 50% transmission?
Actually, this process is evaporation not sputtering. Two very different processes.
Vapor deposition
I was just about to say that, then I read your comment.
Not much to understand
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