Hey mrgm do you know what happened with the shadowlands pvp sets? You showed on the beta the ensembles were on the pvp vendor but haven’t been there on beta or pre patch
@@nickkanax7080 10-59. You are locked from queueing for Shadowlands content if you're already level 60. You're not even able to talk to Chromie to switch to the Shadowlands timeline. It sucks.
Pissed and disappointed with the way that it's being handled. I'm unable to queue for Shadowlands content now, at level 60. And I'm also unable to lock my XP at level 60, so that I can finish Shadowlands content. It sucks.
Really hoping they decide to either add Threads back in OR make the hybrid. I was pushing for that since SL beta because the SL storyline is so slow and restrictive, which is such a shame since it's so beautiful. After I collect the leveling data when it goes live, I likely won't be leveling through SL again via the campaign. Makes me sad. :/
I just think they should make it so you can jump between any of the zones at will, like every other zone in the game. You have to pretty much get loremaster and finish every quest in order to swap to maldraxxus from bastion, for example, which is stupid. I always felt like the linear structure of this expansion was one of the worst things about it. Also, currently, I cannot find a way to do plaguefall. It doesn't show up on the que list for shadowlands chromie dungeons. Shadowlands gets alot of hate. I didn't think it was to bad, but things definitely needed work. That was just one of those things that I did not like. It was so on rails. I thought it was actually pretty cool. It needed way more content than what we got to. But yah. Kind of frustrating that If I want to do maldraxxus. I need to do all of the quests in bastion. It just annoys me.
Clear and concise information. Thanks. I have a new and returning player from 5 years ago and I needed to know how they’d get to 60 before df drops. Respeck bro
Thanks for the info Mr GM. I won’t be levelling in SL again anytime soon. The hard split between on rails storyline and do what you like ToF was too much. I recently started the story quests again on an alt after doing ToF on many alts. It was fun, I love the zones but too linear for my tastes. Then I got to end of Ardenweald and was told not high enough lvl, go away til you’re lvl 58 to continue the story. That was the straw that broke me and I switched to ToF to finish off to 60. I much prefer old style levelling where the story is less linear and you choose to do as much or as little in a zone as you like. Currently redoing BC Nagrand in Chromie time and just love the openness of it. The storyline is there but feels more organic. Ok, it’s possible to lose the story thread at times but hey, that’s what Wowhead is for.
I leveled a main and then about 14 alts to 60. I settled on not picking threads of fate and leveling through Bastion and Maldraxxus until they send you up to Oribos. Then I changed to threads of fate and finished that way, rather than going back to the maw. Minimizing maw time being the goal. It felt quite effective. I am leveling a new character now although he isn’t 50 yet. I have noticed that although I selected Northrend I can go to Elwyn forest and get XP there as well. Westfall and Redridge maybe next
I will definitely do SL for leveling. I thought the main campaign was really good. Like every expansion, the leveling experience story is great! It may be slower overall, but most of my leveling is done for pleasure, not any game-related reason
Remember to lock your xp at level 59. Because Blizzard decided to lock level 60s out of the Shadowlands timeline, and you are no longer able to lock your xp at 60.
@@nulltheworm Is there a way to do the plaguefall dungeon? it doesn't show up in the chromie time que list for dungeons at all. I also wish blizz would just remove the requirements to unlock each zone. Let me quest a bit here and there between them whenever I want to. Like why do I have to do every quest in bastion just to go to maldraxxus. Makes no sense.
@@qunt100 If you're above level 60, you'll have to do it as Legacy Dungeon/Raid content and travel to the dungeon entrance directly. If you're ever unable to do that during an expansion, just as you seem to suspect, you have to complete a certain set of quests first. Shadowlands is/was a very terrible experience in this regard.
@@nulltheworm Ok So I got a quest for plaguefall, and I STILL can't que for it. I am level 56 lol. Chromie time ends at level 59 as soon as you teleport to org or stormwind, which is stupid. Even though the dungeon finder says 10-60 in the specific que. Found that out on another toon. Like, I liked this expansion more than most. But good lord does it suck that you can't just quest for a bit in one zone, and just decide to mix and match in each one. No. You gotta do every quest in the whole game. This was the most linear, landlocked expansion ever. I am just dumb founded that they didn't even bother to change this going forward. How hard can that be to just, let people quest in general where they want to. I can understand having a starting point, but those starting points used to end pretty quickly. But in shadowlands, you are stuck in each zone until you finish everything in those zones in order to move on to the next one. Sucks for raiders to. Specially if they wanted to mythic raid. Well, you better get to loremaster sir. Otherwise, you cant get to this zone. Stupid man.
@@qunt100 So this is your first character going through Shadowlands then? Basically Blizzard is very strict on Shadowlands (like BFA, maybe moreso) for your first character. You have to basically do most of every storyline/zone quests per patch as you progress through the overall expansions in order to unlock the next batch of storyline/zone quests and dungeons. It should be better for future characters. But yeah, it's frustrating.
The fact is that the whole point of Chromie Time should be to let you re-live the events of past expansions, their stories and their characters, not to give you the fastest way to reach max level. So SL storytime should stay this way for me, because if you make it just like Threads of Fate or even something in between, most players will reach level 60 before finishing the story of the expansion, and that is not what Chromie Time should be. If you ask me, Chromie Time should also include the WHOLE story of an expansion, from the first patch to the last.
I'm probably going to park a bunch of my alts at 50 just to access Threads of Fate. I actually enjoy Torghast solo and it's a nice (though not exactly fast) way to get almost a full bar in the Torghast daily whenever you fancy.
Shadowlands leveling was designed so you were able to reach level 60 only with the campaign as long as you did it with WM ON, with WM OFF and, as far as I see from your video, you did it that way, then you need to do a few sidequests or bonus objetctives, so I do not think they will change that (although, I might be wrong).
Why would they remove Threads? I don't think that helps anything, they should totally tune the ability for Torghast 10-60, AND give it more xp. Let it be an actual way to level
I hope that if characters are in Threads of Fate when the change happens, we're able to get them out into another expansion. I have a few characters that I can't seem to be bothered leveling.
I leveled through SL on a ret paladin and got up to the ravendreth mission where you need to go into torghast and can safely say its still over tuned I tried several times to beat the boss and couldn't cause the soul fragments kept killing me.
Thank for this video, good to see SL in Chromie Time. Personally, I'm done with SL and won't be coming back to level any future characters ...well maybe in xpac 12.0
Is the end of shadowlands campaign for leveling prior to joining covenant or does it take you through the covenant storyline? Currently playing through the renown campaign for revendreth and it seems pretty repetitive, especially with the daily or 72 hr quests that are collect 1000 anima, free 20 souls etc. Sad to hear torghast isn’t available - I really enjoy running it but I have a lvl 60 paladin that I’m running it with, would have loved to mindlessly level a toon even 30-50 in Ghast. Pretty excited for dragonflight and launch of the new dragon race on the 15th but I’m definitely gonna stay far away from shadowlands for leveling, pretty burnt out on it now.
'No doubt that will be changed'. (Referring to the high ilvl gear at low levels.) Genuinely, they didn't even fix Warlords Item scaling with busted items or Legion ones, I wouldn't 100% bet on it, even if it's likely.
Decided to level in SL with Chromie Time. First thing to note: I finished the campaign at level 50 having stayed away from side quests, and did not get to choose a covenant and world quests are not unlocked. So I have to go back through the zones completing side quests until I can go to the Dragon Isles. Not great.
I just came back from a long break from wow, and am really enjoying DF. I've nothing done in SL and noticed there are really nice mog and mounts available, was hoping by leveling through I'd be able to unlock the covenants and get the 80 renown to unlock the boost to grind most of the mog sets, by your experience I'm wasting me time, was wondering if anyone has any input or help on this topic, Shame since really nice sets and unique items are locked away in such a complicated mess, any help be great lads, thanks 👍
Yeah, not going to do SL levelling any time soon. I even have a bunch of alts parked at lv50 waiting for Chromie Time to get extended. I also want to see how it will go from 1-60 by doing other expansions, like if doing Legion you will naturally reach the end point in Argus instead of stopping in the middle of the story expansion
This is what I was looking forward to with Dragonflight if i am going to be honest, lvl 10-60 through shadowlands sounds like a lot of fun to me, cant wait....I just dont like any of the older content areas nor do I like battles for Azeroth being forced on me once im done with 1-10
It's a bad change that it becomes mandatory linear instead of choosing where to go (linear paths are always bad since even if they're good, they quickly get tedious when alts are involved). Not really sure why they don't keep the option for alts once you've done it once. Then again BFA is kinda the same thing, where originally you could pick the zone order (even the main from the beginning, not just alts) but once it become squished it became linear for some reason. Guess Blizz just like to shoot themselves in the foot a bit whenever they're doing changes to leveling?
I dont know if you can help. When ever i pick a place/ expansion i only get those dungeons thats in the expansion. But my friend also gets the dungeons from bfa, but i dont have those. You know why?
i was under the impression that this change was going in on the 15th. so its pretty disappointing that i have to continue to level my alts through SL for those 2 weeks. big bummer.
Most of the changes are happening on the 15th! Just not Shadowlands being added to Chromie Time. You'll be able to 50-60 in any expansion from the 15th
@@MrGM Level 50-59. At 60, you're locked out of the Shadowlands timeline and cannot lock your xp to continue doing the content at level. (Or using the dungeon finder.)
Thank you for the video. My question is: If I start Chromie time with legion and then decide to go to WoD ... do I need to switch times with Chromie to get max xp?
I'm never leveling in Shadowlands again unless they bring back Threads of Fate, or allow leveling through Korthia or Zereth Mortis content. The base leveling campaign is too tedious.
that is normal because BFA is current timeline lvling. only SL was added and BFA retains as the original timeline. kinda funny but regardless BFA is intended current lvl timetime to 60 formally 50
They need to make a hybrid of every expansion. Basically for every chromie time expansion make it a TLDR of the entire expansion. Cut out all the side and campaign quests that don't progress the story. That way you get the full story and know what happens in each expansion and don't get to 60 and your not even half way through the content. I think that would be awesome and a great way to make sure people are caught up on lore. It would take some work so I know they wouldn't do it, but it could be a one and done thing that scales easily.
@@MrGM Oh it is, really? I am currently leveling a toon and do not get any bfa dungeons in the browser. Maybe I activated another timeline by accident...will check that. Thanks!
thats what they said about cata, mop, wod, bfa and now SL. but time went on and people spoke some fond of cata, mop for it zones, wod for its raids, bfa for its fun systems and a killer patch. SL to will have its memories. great CN raid in 9.0. some kickass dungeons. an amazing zone known as revendreth not to mention s3 and s4 4th affixes just being a great fun time in keys . now DF will have some hype then get the bandwagon to complain about shit. called the worst. and then it to will become history and favoured on for its moments like they all do
How do you feel about Shadowlands joining Chromie Time? twitch.tv/MrGM
can you spam shadowlands dungeons from 10-60?
Hey mrgm do you know what happened with the shadowlands pvp sets? You showed on the beta the ensembles were on the pvp vendor but haven’t been there on beta or pre patch
@@nickkanax7080 10-59. You are locked from queueing for Shadowlands content if you're already level 60. You're not even able to talk to Chromie to switch to the Shadowlands timeline. It sucks.
Pissed and disappointed with the way that it's being handled. I'm unable to queue for Shadowlands content now, at level 60. And I'm also unable to lock my XP at level 60, so that I can finish Shadowlands content.
It sucks.
I am so sorry you had to level through Shadowlands one more time. Thank you for your sacrifice.
Really hoping they decide to either add Threads back in OR make the hybrid. I was pushing for that since SL beta because the SL storyline is so slow and restrictive, which is such a shame since it's so beautiful. After I collect the leveling data when it goes live, I likely won't be leveling through SL again via the campaign. Makes me sad. :/
I just think they should make it so you can jump between any of the zones at will, like every other zone in the game. You have to pretty much get loremaster and finish every quest in order to swap to maldraxxus from bastion, for example, which is stupid. I always felt like the linear structure of this expansion was one of the worst things about it.
Also, currently, I cannot find a way to do plaguefall. It doesn't show up on the que list for shadowlands chromie dungeons.
Shadowlands gets alot of hate. I didn't think it was to bad, but things definitely needed work. That was just one of those things that I did not like. It was so on rails.
I thought it was actually pretty cool. It needed way more content than what we got to. But yah. Kind of frustrating that If I want to do maldraxxus. I need to do all of the quests in bastion. It just annoys me.
Clear and concise information. Thanks. I have a new and returning player from 5 years ago and I needed to know how they’d get to 60 before df drops. Respeck bro
Welcome back :)
Thanks for the info Mr GM. I won’t be levelling in SL again anytime soon. The hard split between on rails storyline and do what you like ToF was too much. I recently started the story quests again on an alt after doing ToF on many alts. It was fun, I love the zones but too linear for my tastes. Then I got to end of Ardenweald and was told not high enough lvl, go away til you’re lvl 58 to continue the story. That was the straw that broke me and I switched to ToF to finish off to 60. I much prefer old style levelling where the story is less linear and you choose to do as much or as little in a zone as you like. Currently redoing BC Nagrand in Chromie time and just love the openness of it. The storyline is there but feels more organic. Ok, it’s possible to lose the story thread at times but hey, that’s what Wowhead is for.
I have 8 characters between 50 and 60 can't wait until the ph2 patch drops and I can actually level them :P
I leveled a main and then about 14 alts to 60. I settled on not picking threads of fate and leveling through Bastion and Maldraxxus until they send you up to Oribos. Then I changed to threads of fate and finished that way, rather than going back to the maw. Minimizing maw time being the goal. It felt quite effective. I am leveling a new character now although he isn’t 50 yet. I have noticed that although I selected Northrend I can go to Elwyn forest and get XP there as well. Westfall and Redridge maybe next
I will definitely do SL for leveling. I thought the main campaign was really good. Like every expansion, the leveling experience story is great! It may be slower overall, but most of my leveling is done for pleasure, not any game-related reason
Remember to lock your xp at level 59. Because Blizzard decided to lock level 60s out of the Shadowlands timeline, and you are no longer able to lock your xp at 60.
@@nulltheworm Is there a way to do the plaguefall dungeon? it doesn't show up in the chromie time que list for dungeons at all.
I also wish blizz would just remove the requirements to unlock each zone. Let me quest a bit here and there between them whenever I want to. Like why do I have to do every quest in bastion just to go to maldraxxus. Makes no sense.
@@qunt100 If you're above level 60, you'll have to do it as Legacy Dungeon/Raid content and travel to the dungeon entrance directly.
If you're ever unable to do that during an expansion, just as you seem to suspect, you have to complete a certain set of quests first.
Shadowlands is/was a very terrible experience in this regard.
@@nulltheworm Ok So I got a quest for plaguefall, and I STILL can't que for it. I am level 56 lol. Chromie time ends at level 59 as soon as you teleport to org or stormwind, which is stupid. Even though the dungeon finder says 10-60 in the specific que. Found that out on another toon.
Like, I liked this expansion more than most. But good lord does it suck that you can't just quest for a bit in one zone, and just decide to mix and match in each one. No. You gotta do every quest in the whole game.
This was the most linear, landlocked expansion ever. I am just dumb founded that they didn't even bother to change this going forward. How hard can that be to just, let people quest in general where they want to.
I can understand having a starting point, but those starting points used to end pretty quickly. But in shadowlands, you are stuck in each zone until you finish everything in those zones in order to move on to the next one.
Sucks for raiders to. Specially if they wanted to mythic raid. Well, you better get to loremaster sir. Otherwise, you cant get to this zone. Stupid man.
@@qunt100 So this is your first character going through Shadowlands then? Basically Blizzard is very strict on Shadowlands (like BFA, maybe moreso) for your first character. You have to basically do most of every storyline/zone quests per patch as you progress through the overall expansions in order to unlock the next batch of storyline/zone quests and dungeons.
It should be better for future characters. But yeah, it's frustrating.
The fact is that the whole point of Chromie Time should be to let you re-live the events of past expansions, their stories and their characters, not to give you the fastest way to reach max level. So SL storytime should stay this way for me, because if you make it just like Threads of Fate or even something in between, most players will reach level 60 before finishing the story of the expansion, and that is not what Chromie Time should be. If you ask me, Chromie Time should also include the WHOLE story of an expansion, from the first patch to the last.
I'm probably going to park a bunch of my alts at 50 just to access Threads of Fate. I actually enjoy Torghast solo and it's a nice (though not exactly fast) way to get almost a full bar in the Torghast daily whenever you fancy.
I mostly wonder if the cosmetic of SL will be available at lvl 10.
What about characters that are already level 50 and has run through Chromie time?
Do these SL locations have any lvl requirements ? For example is lvl 20 trial character able to do all SL quests?
Shadowlands leveling was designed so you were able to reach level 60 only with the campaign as long as you did it with WM ON, with WM OFF and, as far as I see from your video, you did it that way, then you need to do a few sidequests or bonus objetctives, so I do not think they will change that (although, I might be wrong).
Why would they remove Threads? I don't think that helps anything, they should totally tune the ability for Torghast 10-60, AND give it more xp. Let it be an actual way to level
I hope that if characters are in Threads of Fate when the change happens, we're able to get them out into another expansion. I have a few characters that I can't seem to be bothered leveling.
Twinks are gonna have so much fun with the Shadowlands items.
I leveled through SL on a ret paladin and got up to the ravendreth mission where you need to go into torghast and can safely say its still over tuned I tried several times to beat the boss and couldn't cause the soul fragments kept killing me.
I'm sure I'll level an alt through SL Chromie Time 5-10 years down the road. :D
I kinda liked the SL campaign, so I will definitive lvl a char in SL Chromie time
Thank for this video, good to see SL in Chromie Time. Personally, I'm done with SL and won't be coming back to level any future characters ...well maybe in xpac 12.0
Is the end of shadowlands campaign for leveling prior to joining covenant or does it take you through the covenant storyline?
Currently playing through the renown campaign for revendreth and it seems pretty repetitive, especially with the daily or 72 hr quests that are collect 1000 anima, free 20 souls etc.
Sad to hear torghast isn’t available - I really enjoy running it but I have a lvl 60 paladin that I’m running it with, would have loved to mindlessly level a toon even 30-50 in Ghast.
Pretty excited for dragonflight and launch of the new dragon race on the 15th but I’m definitely gonna stay far away from shadowlands for leveling, pretty burnt out on it now.
'No doubt that will be changed'. (Referring to the high ilvl gear at low levels.) Genuinely, they didn't even fix Warlords Item scaling with busted items or Legion ones, I wouldn't 100% bet on it, even if it's likely.
Decided to level in SL with Chromie Time. First thing to note: I finished the campaign at level 50 having stayed away from side quests, and did not get to choose a covenant and world quests are not unlocked. So I have to go back through the zones completing side quests until I can go to the Dragon Isles. Not great.
I just came back from a long break from wow, and am really enjoying DF. I've nothing done in SL and noticed there are really nice mog and mounts available, was hoping by leveling through I'd be able to unlock the covenants and get the 80 renown to unlock the boost to grind most of the mog sets, by your experience I'm wasting me time, was wondering if anyone has any input or help on this topic, Shame since really nice sets and unique items are locked away in such a complicated mess, any help be great lads, thanks 👍
Yeah, not going to do SL levelling any time soon. I even have a bunch of alts parked at lv50 waiting for Chromie Time to get extended. I also want to see how it will go from 1-60 by doing other expansions, like if doing Legion you will naturally reach the end point in Argus instead of stopping in the middle of the story expansion
This is what I was looking forward to with Dragonflight if i am going to be honest, lvl 10-60 through shadowlands sounds like a lot of fun to me, cant wait....I just dont like any of the older content areas nor do I like battles for Azeroth being forced on me once im done with 1-10
i hate that the ilvl increase isnt up yet, much want to see my Artifact Weapon grow again, rather than cap at 50-70 ilvl.
It's a bad change that it becomes mandatory linear instead of choosing where to go (linear paths are always bad since even if they're good, they quickly get tedious when alts are involved). Not really sure why they don't keep the option for alts once you've done it once. Then again BFA is kinda the same thing, where originally you could pick the zone order (even the main from the beginning, not just alts) but once it become squished it became linear for some reason. Guess Blizz just like to shoot themselves in the foot a bit whenever they're doing changes to leveling?
I dont know if you can help. When ever i pick a place/ expansion i only get those dungeons thats in the expansion. But my friend also gets the dungeons from bfa, but i dont have those. You know why?
i was under the impression that this change was going in on the 15th. so its pretty disappointing that i have to continue to level my alts through SL for those 2 weeks. big bummer.
Most of the changes are happening on the 15th! Just not Shadowlands being added to Chromie Time. You'll be able to 50-60 in any expansion from the 15th
@@MrGM Level 50-59. At 60, you're locked out of the Shadowlands timeline and cannot lock your xp to continue doing the content at level. (Or using the dungeon finder.)
So there is no way to play through Zereth Mortis or do World Quests?
This video made me feel Ucey. Good times!
Thank you for the video. My question is: If I start Chromie time with legion and then decide to go to WoD ... do I need to switch times with Chromie to get max xp?
I tried for about an hour or so...vendors didnt have food/drink that I could use at 30 so I went to Draenor
Do you have to do all 4 zones? Or can you go to just Ardenweald at its required level and do all the campaigns there? Pretty much like BFA or Legion.
Unlike most people, I enjoyed leveling in Shadowlands but with them removing Threads of Fate it means I'll never level there again.
The right move and glad to never have to go there again
I'm never leveling in Shadowlands again unless they bring back Threads of Fate, or allow leveling through Korthia or Zereth Mortis content. The base leveling campaign is too tedious.
Of course they want you to play through the story
Does anybody know what XP bar addon does he use?
Glad you did this and not me lol
I am never setting foot in Shadowlands again. It's on my bottom of expansions, along with Cataclysm.
No BFA on the cromie map? Strange 😮
that is normal because BFA is current timeline lvling. only SL was added and BFA retains as the original timeline. kinda funny but regardless BFA is intended current lvl timetime to 60 formally 50
They need to make a hybrid of every expansion. Basically for every chromie time expansion make it a TLDR of the entire expansion. Cut out all the side and campaign quests that don't progress the story. That way you get the full story and know what happens in each expansion and don't get to 60 and your not even half way through the content. I think that would be awesome and a great way to make sure people are caught up on lore. It would take some work so I know they wouldn't do it, but it could be a one and done thing that scales easily.
I still miss Torghast :/
Where is BFA Chromie time?
It’s the default levelling experience so it doesn’t need to be activated by Chromie
@@MrGM Oh it is, really? I am currently leveling a toon and do not get any bfa dungeons in the browser. Maybe I activated another timeline by accident...will check that. Thanks!
You do need to start the BFA story by visiting Anduin in Stormwind Keep. Once you get through the rp stuff, the first few dungeons will unlock.
Hahahaha - no, nope, never again
No one is looking back at Shadowlands and saying its good
thats what they said about cata, mop, wod, bfa and now SL. but time went on and people spoke some fond of cata, mop for it zones, wod for its raids, bfa for its fun systems and a killer patch. SL to will have its memories. great CN raid in 9.0. some kickass dungeons. an amazing zone known as revendreth
not to mention s3 and s4 4th affixes just being a great fun time in keys
. now DF will have some hype then get the bandwagon to complain about shit. called the worst. and then it to will become history and favoured on for its moments like they all do
naaaaw
lol
1st
I never gonna go shadowlands again
nice exploit the legion starter buffs from 10-60 with chromie :P