Airgun Accuracy Test: Clean vs Dirty Pellets

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  • @giselleroman2140
    @giselleroman2140 5 років тому +1

    By far, this is my favorite youtube channel. Great information for the airgun community. Thanks Will.

  • @georgeb813
    @georgeb813 5 років тому +5

    One thing I’ve learned is never use Rem oil for anything Airgun related. It is petroleum based. You won’t notice it right away but it does deteriorate all the O-rings that it comes in contact with over time. I use Ballistol to lube my pellets and the breach O-rings last a lot longer. Thanks for the great video.

    • @WillRomansAirgunworld
      @WillRomansAirgunworld  5 років тому

      Thank you George for your comment brother.....and your are correct on the rem oil...I have notices my o-ring in my breech gone bad in my rifle before...thank you for you observation. Thank you sir..no more rem oil..

    • @bigkenny1585
      @bigkenny1585 3 роки тому

      @@WillRomansAirgunworld Rem oil has a silicon based lube in the same spray bottle I use it for all things airgun.

  • @stevesandford1437
    @stevesandford1437 4 роки тому +2

    Greetings from Dublin, in the Republic Of Ireland.
    It might interest you to know that many military shooters/snipers carefully select and clean their rounds before loading into a magazine or single-shot rifle. Also, during the First World War, some of the best fighter aeroplane 'aces' in the the British, French and German air services personally inspected, selected and cleaned each individual round before loading into the belt. They had ground crew/armourers to do this for them but many pilots took this upon themselves to be extra-certain there would be no 'jamming' or erratic trajectory because of faulty rounds. (That would be impractical now because even modern fighters that still use machine guns carry far too many rounds for the pilot to inspect each...) However, aside from the fact that close inspection would reveal a faulty round and careful cleaning would practically eliminate the possibility of 'jamming' there was another advantage to this'hands-on-DIY' approach. It was that it gave the pilot more confidence; it was one less thing he had to worry about! (His LIFE depended on his machine and its guns performing perfectly...) Air-gunners, in the main, don't really have that problem! (So far the varmints haven't learned to shoot back...) That Said, anything that connects, involves and educates the shooter with regard to their tools of choice can only make him/her a better and more confident shooter... xx SF

    • @WillRomansAirgunworld
      @WillRomansAirgunworld  4 роки тому +1

      Thank you sir... you are very good on your military knowledge and history...great job on that...thanks again Steve for sharing that with me...👍👍🇺🇸

  • @Pelletonix
    @Pelletonix 6 років тому +5

    I done the same test, had the same result. Good video, thanks

    • @WillRomansAirgunworld
      @WillRomansAirgunworld  6 років тому +2

      Pelletonix thank for the comment......the only benefit is that you do not have to clean your barrel often... but for accuracy its not needed.... thank you brother...

  • @therattyfire5468
    @therattyfire5468 6 років тому +5

    Nice experiment, I use the same pellets in .22 and I get consistently tight groups. It would be hard to justify the time and effort in cleaning this type of pellet for what is effectively no improvement, nonetheless without contributers like yourself people might not know this. Many thanks from Northern Ireland and a merry Christmas and happy New year to you. ATB... Billy 🇬🇧🇺🇸

    • @WillRomansAirgunworld
      @WillRomansAirgunworld  6 років тому +1

      Thanks for your comment Billy, Merry Christmas and Happy New Years to you as well. The only true benefit in cleaning pellets I would admit is the barrel of the airgun does not need to be cleaned as often.

  • @giselleroman2140
    @giselleroman2140 6 років тому +2

    Once again great video, keep them coming they are very useful. Thanks!

  • @arsenelupiniii8040
    @arsenelupiniii8040 10 місяців тому +1

    Yup, i "cleave" the ends on a piece of copier paper. Just kind of smooth them around and get rid of that edge, or rim that will fall off very easily. I then reload poopy pellets like crow magnums and fill them with wet snap cap rolls, it is very detailed process to get really good exploders. If I buy "accurate" pellets i just smooth em like previously mentioned. But, exploding pellets really make for a more fun target day, or night. Pellet guns are still kind of novel compared to my "powder burners" but I have actual combat experience, and prefer for targets to stay down.

  • @HajimotoProductions
    @HajimotoProductions 5 років тому +1

    Nice information Will.
    Good job!

    • @WillRomansAirgunworld
      @WillRomansAirgunworld  5 років тому

      Yes I've heard this for years clean vs dirty...gust try it for my self...no difference in accuracy...but the only benefit I can say about it is it does keep your barrel cleaner for a longer period of time... thanks again brother I'll see you on the next one.

  • @Tofazfou
    @Tofazfou 5 років тому +1

    Awesome Video. Here is my theory and always has been. Pellets have very little contact surface to the rifling for the "DIRT" to matter. I could see "DIRT" being more of a factor on say a cast bullet or slug because the contact surface to the rifling is much bigger than a pellets surface. Good video. Enjoyed it. Im subbed

    • @WillRomansAirgunworld
      @WillRomansAirgunworld  5 років тому

      Thank you sir...for you comment...I think the only benefit for a clean pellet is maintaining the barrel cleaner for a longer period of time....and that's for pellets...now slugs I have no idea..lol...I bin wanting to get in to slugs...but I'm still wet behind the ears on that subject...I'm trying to learn more by watching your videos and SG...still got a lot to learn brother....thank again Tofazfou for checking out my channel means a lot coming from you brother.....

  • @smittyb9418
    @smittyb9418 4 роки тому +2

    To me it look like the clean pellets were slightly closer to the center of the bullseye than the dirty pellets...thx for the informative video my friend !!

    • @WillRomansAirgunworld
      @WillRomansAirgunworld  4 роки тому +1

      Thank you brother for the comment...and yes I do agree with you on the clean pellets being a little more accurate... thanks again and welcome to the channel Smitty...👍👍🇺🇸

  • @kiddwood5405
    @kiddwood5405 3 роки тому +1

    Nice shooting! Nice rifle!

  • @brianmoore1820
    @brianmoore1820 5 років тому

    The other factor could be that clean pellets will mean a cleaner bore with which to shoot out of. I came home today and used JB's bore paste and the fowling just kept coming out using maybe 20 patches. We just keep on trying to do better. Keep up the good work.

  • @brynybach7741
    @brynybach7741 Рік тому +1

    CZ barrels are cold hammer forged (as are BSA barrels) unlike Lothar Walther which are not.
    It would be a good test to weigh out and sort a tin of cleaned pellets (as many target shooters do) and then test those against the none cleaned and none weighed pellets. That would also be very interesting to see. Love your in depth videos by the way. 👍

  • @johnndavis7647
    @johnndavis7647 Рік тому

    As I understand it. The main benefit of washing pellets is to reduce the amount of lead dust thats finds its way into the piston. The lead dust can wear out your piston seals pretty fast. Washing pellets makes your seals last longer.
    As far as accuracy goes, that may vary from gun to gun or pellets may be dirtier from lot to lot even from the same maker.

  • @dougdiver8637
    @dougdiver8637 3 роки тому +1

    Interesting to see the POI change.

    • @WillRomansAirgunworld
      @WillRomansAirgunworld  3 роки тому

      Thank you Doug for the comment...I sade the same thing...lol 👍👍🇺🇸

  • @ablesandoval4904
    @ablesandoval4904 2 роки тому +1

    Good Info. To me it seems the clean pellets group was a tad tighter.
    But not much...great shooting !...I shoot a break barrel and get very good groups right out of the tin.

    • @WillRomansAirgunworld
      @WillRomansAirgunworld  2 роки тому

      Thank you Abie... much appreciate that. Yes I get the same results out of my break barrels my self..👍👍🇺🇸

  • @djl2033
    @djl2033 Рік тому

    OUTSTANDING THANKS

  • @caseyjones6197
    @caseyjones6197 2 роки тому

    The only pellets I wash and clean are the Crosman H.P.’s and the Ultra Magnum’s. But even then I have a flier in both ways. A/A or JSB for the utmost accuracy 30 yards and greater. But for great accuracy less than 30 yards the Crosman H.P.’s and Ultra Magnums work great at 1/3rd the cost.

  • @bluewater454
    @bluewater454 5 років тому +1

    Might affect your barrel cleaning when it comes time, but it is a hell of a lot easier to clean a barrel than a tin of pellets! Good to experiment with things like that, though. Good idea to see if it affects accuracy.

    • @WillRomansAirgunworld
      @WillRomansAirgunworld  5 років тому

      Thank you brother for the comment.... and yes I agree with you 100% I rather clean a barrel all day then a tin of pellets....👍👍

  • @Dark_Knight_112
    @Dark_Knight_112 Рік тому

    You and one other UA-camr debunked the lubed pellet theory. They don’t make it more accurate. Just keeps your barrel cleaner and less cleaning which in turn makes your rifle more accurate. If you clean your barrel regularly, unwashed pellets are fine. Thanks for the in-depth video.

  • @heksogen4788
    @heksogen4788 3 роки тому +1

    Finally, someone dispelling the stupid myth.

  • @Glennoutdoors
    @Glennoutdoors 5 років тому +1

    Thanks for your time, Listen to SG He’s the Man !!!!

    • @WillRomansAirgunworld
      @WillRomansAirgunworld  5 років тому

      Thank you brother for the comment...and yes your right SG always has good advice thank you sir👍👍

  • @sebastom123
    @sebastom123 10 місяців тому

    ik ik its a old video but i gotta say first nice video no questions ... but its a question overtime ... after 100 shot you want the barrel clean or more dirty (of course a dirty barrel aim bad) after 200 shot you want the barrel still clean or really dirty ... im not sure if I'm clear but i can add this i own a fx impact and after cleaning the pellets i use dry silicone spray so it seal the lead dust and seal them from corrosion yet leave no residue after 500 shots (full can) i had visually nothing dirty in my barrel
    cheers mate!

  • @CNcheffunray
    @CNcheffunray 10 місяців тому

    If every 10 shots, the accuracy decreases and the barrel needs to be cleaned to recover, what is the situation and how should we handle it?Can you give me some guidance?thank you

  • @bigkenny1585
    @bigkenny1585 3 роки тому

    I was watching this video looking for a solution as to why my PCP airgun (new) is shooting low and to the right. I was thinking it was possibly dirty pellets. Thanks to your video I am going to move on to changing my pellet choice. I have also found out that some pellets come in a slightly larger diameter. I have a Beeman chief 2 synthetic 3000psi. Any thoughts you can provide would be appreciated. I know the Crossman 14.3 hollow points are not working. They are supposed to be a stable pellet, but I can't hit the broad side of a barn with them.

  • @cliffb.2416
    @cliffb.2416 5 років тому +1

    Nice shooting! That's a quiet gun. What moderator is that? Custom? You made it?

    • @WillRomansAirgunworld
      @WillRomansAirgunworld  5 років тому

      Thank Cliff for your comment brother...sorry bro I getting back to you so late....like buy 1 month lol...but yea I made that LDC for the cricket..and it work pretty good but now I got a Donny fl and its even more quite...thanks again brother and see you on the next one..

  • @smittyb9418
    @smittyb9418 4 роки тому +1

    will Romans airgun world....i have a winchester 45 cal, i just ordered the 170 & 180 grain slugs, my plain is to use vinegar to clean them and wd 40 to lube them...what do you think ????

    • @WillRomansAirgunworld
      @WillRomansAirgunworld  4 роки тому +1

      Thanks good idea...due to the fact that a clean slug or pellets will have more of a benefit in the long run...your barrel will stay cleaner for a longer time vs a dirty barrel your shot's will have a little more accuracy..so that being said YES!!! But be careful what you use for lube I think WD 40 is bad on O-rings you may want to do some research on lubricant so you do not damage your O- rings...hope this helps brother..👍👍🇺🇸

  • @stedyone1090
    @stedyone1090 5 років тому +1

    If you're gonna clean em it's only 1 more step to weigh em. I even size them sometimes. Nice gun. Nice shooting. Peace.

  • @zxveleno
    @zxveleno 4 роки тому +1

    the barrel is a cz? or lothar? how many rows does your rod 10 or 12 have? compliments

    • @WillRomansAirgunworld
      @WillRomansAirgunworld  4 роки тому

      24" CZ barrel..the magazine holds 12 rounds..

    • @zxveleno
      @zxveleno 4 роки тому

      @@WillRomansAirgunworld
      rifling of the barrel 10 or 12

  • @wannabemgtow2540
    @wannabemgtow2540 6 років тому +1

    I think the benefits of using clean air gun pellets is when you clean your Barrel thoroughly your barrel will stay clean longer. What is the deal with that rag under your Barrel?

    • @WillRomansAirgunworld
      @WillRomansAirgunworld  6 років тому

      thank you brother for the comment.....lol... its not a rag .... but its a rabbits tail for luck ..... and yes i will agree with you 100% on the barrel staying cleaner for a longer period of time.... very good statement....

  • @slowpokeairgunner4027
    @slowpokeairgunner4027 5 років тому +1

    I clean mine now and then, cleaning them and using lube seems to help the accuracy a bit, not sure if it's worth the trouble, more testing needs to be done. I do know that it's time to clean the barrel when accuracy gets off. I have two guns from the same manufacturer, one doesn't seem to care at all if the barrel is dirty or not, it's still a laser, the other needs cleaned every now and then, but I soot a lot more through that gun. Cleaning pellets seems to keep it shooting longer before cleaning again.

    • @WillRomansAirgunworld
      @WillRomansAirgunworld  5 років тому

      Yes sir...to me its the same thing clean or dry as far as accuracy..the only benefit for cleaning the pellets really would be for cleaning your barrel less....lol....for my testing I will get through my CZ barrel 500 rounds dirty... and a 1000 rounds clean in 25 cal.. but I agree with you every gun barrel is different some might be more or less....thanks again brother and will see you on the next one. 👍

  • @nicorallysport
    @nicorallysport Рік тому

    Lube after cleaning ?, the problem is that the JSBs are already high-end pellets that are already very clean, it would be better to test with medium or low-end pellets which are dirtier

  • @MrDonescobu
    @MrDonescobu 5 років тому +1

    Are those China tanks worth getting? Can you still get it filled in the states if it's only CE certified? Since those tanks from China aren't DOT certified. Thnx

    • @WillRomansAirgunworld
      @WillRomansAirgunworld  5 років тому +1

      Travis thank you for your comment brother....and yes the China tanks are worth it you can save a little bit of money..and the quality of the tank is good and you can fill them in US scuba shop of you choose it's got 15 years exp date and all parts are built well...I had no problem with this tank in the one year I had owned it. Hope this helps brother.

    • @MrDonescobu
      @MrDonescobu 5 років тому +1

      Will Roman's Airgun world Love your videos and transparency in your reviews.. Thanks for the update on the China tanks. I've had a few of them on watch list on eBay but been hesitant. You gave me more confidence in them.

  • @weirhauch1002
    @weirhauch1002 5 років тому +1

    Good video , but dirt needs to build up in the barrel for the pellets to start swirling ! Although this can show up easily in some barrels.

    • @WillRomansAirgunworld
      @WillRomansAirgunworld  5 років тому

      Thank you brother for the comment...and yes I do agree with you...your barrel can lose accuracy more faster with dirty pellets than clean....and that is a fact....thank you brother and welcome to the channel..hope to here from you again..👍👍

  • @exodusriss1713
    @exodusriss1713 4 роки тому +2

    I think You are to close to test for the power you are using my friend
    in the uk we shot 12flb and I shot 18gran jsb which you kown are very clean pellets
    Some of the other brands of pellets
    You can see if you empty a tim of h&n pellets you will more then likely see little bits of lead at the bottom of the tins
    Ones you clean they become fantastic pellets
    Good tip for you my friend if you get a tin of pellets that have
    decayed you know gone gray put them in write vinegar overnight
    You will be amazed stay safe my friend

    • @WillRomansAirgunworld
      @WillRomansAirgunworld  4 роки тому +1

      Thank you brother for the comment... i appreciate that tip.. stay safe my friend...👍👍🇺🇸

  • @commenter4799
    @commenter4799 Рік тому

    I think your first group could have actually been a little tighter. It looks like your point of aim moved down just a little as the top of the bullseye got chewed up. Perhaps doing the test where you aim at the bullseye but the pellets strike deliberately off the point of aim.

  • @lunatic231
    @lunatic231 4 роки тому

    only reason id clean is to prevent my barrel from getting fowled up sooner than it needs too, ill clean the excess lead of them and lightly lube aids so you dont have to clean after every can.

  • @JoePatABC
    @JoePatABC 5 років тому +3

    Well, you can't shoot 5 pellets and determine much of anything about clean vs. dirty. The idea of shooting clean pellets is to eliminate flyers. You have to take enough shots to justifiably say that you would normally have had some flyers. Try 40 shots per group and you should have some valid data.
    Nice shooting BTW.

    • @WillRomansAirgunworld
      @WillRomansAirgunworld  5 років тому

      Jmpdgs. Thank you for the comment brother....and that is a good idea...I will do that test again with dirty vs.clean again with 40 shoots to see if I can get 1 or 2 flyers...good idea brother...thank you. I'll see you on the next one.

  • @zxveleno
    @zxveleno 4 роки тому

    Congratulazioni 🍾🎉 a quanti metri?

  • @bowfishingfalcon1162
    @bowfishingfalcon1162 5 років тому

    Nice shooting buddy ,like your channel iam subbed 👍

  • @Glennoutdoors
    @Glennoutdoors 5 років тому

    I’m a new sub , Your doing a nice job no bull sh-t thanks.

  • @realitychess2747
    @realitychess2747 5 років тому +1

    I was thinking cleaning pellets should clean out the barrel

    • @WillRomansAirgunworld
      @WillRomansAirgunworld  5 років тому

      Thank you for the comment...and yes your right...the only benefits from cleaning pellets are that you dont have to clean your barrel as often V.S durty pellets....but for as far as accuracy I don't think so.....👍👍

  • @daleweller5193
    @daleweller5193 3 роки тому +1

    I could live with ether one.

  • @fathertimencUSA
    @fathertimencUSA 5 років тому +1

    That is pretty good for 45 yards.

  • @liedebunker1253
    @liedebunker1253 4 роки тому +1

    Darn! That is a $1,400 air rifle. Well, I think it's the rifle that is good.

    • @WillRomansAirgunworld
      @WillRomansAirgunworld  4 роки тому

      Thank you brother for the comment...yes i will agree with you. The gun is very accurate..all you have to do os pull the trigger..👍👍🇺🇸

  • @edkjellander5924
    @edkjellander5924 3 роки тому

    Clean pellets or clean barrel (PICK)one

  • @frenchie6189
    @frenchie6189 5 років тому +2

    I use 91% Isopropyl Alcohol, Stuff's cheap, works great & dries very quickly! Peace.

    • @WillRomansAirgunworld
      @WillRomansAirgunworld  5 років тому

      Thank you brother for the comment...great information I'll look into my self...and try it thank you Frenchie..👍👍

  • @dramc-ov3cp
    @dramc-ov3cp 2 роки тому

    This is just silly. Don't you know that lead is soft enough to write with? Did you know that pre 1500 AD pencils were made of real lead? You can clean them forever, and they'll still mark. The only thing you're measuring is the effect of your lubricant, and statistically, that was a bust too.

  • @urbanspaceman7183
    @urbanspaceman7183 2 роки тому

    Hot hot water, not cold hot water.

  • @alemchelth
    @alemchelth 5 років тому +1

    U proved nothing. You should have shot the clean pellet group first, then the dirty group. Also, start with a clean barrel. Shooting the dirty group first just dirtied the barrel and the clean pellet group mise as well have been dirty. Even then, the "clean" group looked slightly smaller. So there u go. U cant put dirt through first then call the clean "clean" anymore.

  • @umbratherios5614
    @umbratherios5614 5 років тому +1

    VERY SLIGHT but DEFINITE difference (perhaps a millimeter...) not much of a difference to matter at shorter ranges, but on longer ranges? like 50 meters? I think that might be interesting.
    on short ranges? man... I would say the results are.... as mythbusters would say, Plausible.

    • @WillRomansAirgunworld
      @WillRomansAirgunworld  5 років тому

      Thank you Umbra for the comment... yes I agree with you on that... I believe at longer distance a clean pellet will do much more better in accuracy....thanks again for your input on this topic...and welcome to the channel brother...awesome to have you here...👍👍🇺🇸

  • @prophy4736
    @prophy4736 4 роки тому

    a stable rest would have been more scientific. you move alot when your shooting and leaving human error in the equation

  • @BirdWhisperer46
    @BirdWhisperer46 3 роки тому

    Way too much work for the little it helped.