The Failure of the Edgy Shazam Reboot

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  • @ComicDrake
    @ComicDrake  Рік тому +119

    If you’re ever injured in an accident, you can check out Morgan & Morgan. Their fee is free unless they win. For more information go to www.wordontheblock.biz/r/2228/86/?s=FOR_THE_PEOPLE

    • @GhostlyPhantome
      @GhostlyPhantome Рік тому +32

      Bro got sponsored by Saul Goodman 💀💀💀

    • @ComicDrake
      @ComicDrake  Рік тому +44

      @@GhostlyPhantome Did you know that you have right?

    • @pqcowboychanel
      @pqcowboychanel Рік тому +9

      @@ComicDrake “the constitution says you do.”

    • @jessegartung294
      @jessegartung294 Рік тому +3

      You should do a history on moon girl and devil dinosaur

    • @TheMightsparrow
      @TheMightsparrow Рік тому

      Roy Thomas's wife was called Dan?

  • @danielreilly139
    @danielreilly139 Рік тому +238

    Personally I would love to hear Drake talk about the Prince Comic, cause that just sounds amazing.

    • @LinguarumFautor
      @LinguarumFautor Рік тому +5

      Seconded.

    • @ItsButterBean1020
      @ItsButterBean1020 Рік тому +3

      Agreed

    • @MrJonesito
      @MrJonesito Рік тому +1

      Maybe for the April 1st video, since it's what he does for that day (talk about weird comics or comic related stuff that don't usually fit the vibe of his regular videos).

    • @TheZooropaBaby
      @TheZooropaBaby Рік тому

      I’m sad he didn’t mention artist because I think that comic was drawn by Denys Cowan, that’s awesome too

    • @benjacarrasco9447
      @benjacarrasco9447 Рік тому

      PLEASEEEEEE

  • @ThePatxiao
    @ThePatxiao Рік тому +641

    It's sad how the comic book industry STILL has an obsession with dark and edgy despite the 90's.

  • @joshuaingobo1559
    @joshuaingobo1559 Рік тому +42

    5:17 That feeling where you’ve almost said “Shazam” instead of “Captain Marvel.”

  • @jacobwilliams1223
    @jacobwilliams1223 Рік тому +31

    You know, at first I felt bad Roy got f-ed over on getting to make his dream project a reality...but after hearing what his actual pitch was, I think I am actually on DC's side here. This is the last thing Billy Batson needed.

  • @nikolasmokalis3425
    @nikolasmokalis3425 Рік тому +65

    It’s a shame that Roy Thomas went through all that crap. That being said, Im happy we got Jerry Ordway’s Power of Shazam in the 90’s

    • @AustynSN
      @AustynSN Рік тому +5

      I so miss that version. I especially liked the idea the they were all "sharing" the power so that the more of them using it, the less powerful they were. (Kind of wish they'd reincorporate that into the current version.)

    • @MutantsInDisguise
      @MutantsInDisguise Рік тому +1

      Jerry Ordway's Captain Marvel is one of the very few good things DC has ever done with the character.

  • @CaptainCat101
    @CaptainCat101 Рік тому +140

    It's always about being edgy, even in 2015
    I'm looking at you Fant4stic

    • @kuchenjaeger2164
      @kuchenjaeger2164 Рік тому +16

      THAT MOVIE IS 8 YEARS OLD ALREADY?!
      Oh christ.

    • @TheZooropaBaby
      @TheZooropaBaby Рік тому

      @@kuchenjaeger2164 Fan4stic is basically Ultimate FF right?

  • @mbletz3958
    @mbletz3958 Рік тому +682

    A law firm... sponsoring a UA-camr...? Well that's new lol

    • @jaymesEo6
      @jaymesEo6 Рік тому +29

      The Breakfast Club has been sponsored by a law office for years.

    • @1davey29shows
      @1davey29shows Рік тому +43

      I zone out during sponsors normally, so right when it ended I had to do a double take to make sure I heard right.

    • @jachariah4694
      @jachariah4694 Рік тому +30

      Yeah I just watched a Saberspark on family guy also sponsored by Morgan and Morgan

    • @mattwo7
      @mattwo7 Рік тому +11

      @@jachariah4694 Dr. Crafty is sponsored by Jedah and Jedah lol

    • @skyslasher2297
      @skyslasher2297 Рік тому +16

      There’s a shit ton of law related content in this channel I can see why they’d think it’s a good idea

  • @catlawyerwilldefendfortrea6038
    @catlawyerwilldefendfortrea6038 Рік тому +106

    I'd love to see an inked and coloured version of those pages. Even if it's just by a fan. Think it'll make a cool Elseworld concept. Also, Captain Thunder is such a better name than Shazam or just Captain

    • @smiller2044
      @smiller2044 Рік тому +2

      @Cat Lawyer Will defend for treats Captain might not work for Captain America

    • @pkrockinomega4184
      @pkrockinomega4184 Рік тому +13

      Gonna be honest, Captain Thunder is a really cool name.

    • @tonypeppermint5329
      @tonypeppermint5329 Рік тому

      Oh yeah.

    • @Antwannnn
      @Antwannnn Рік тому

      Shazam is cooler to me. I like that it's an acronym and an onomatopoeia

  • @benwasserman8223
    @benwasserman8223 Рік тому +60

    Wonder if this reboot semi-inspired Mary Marvel’s evil phase in the 2000s.

    • @wdcain1
      @wdcain1 Рік тому +4

      That was one of the few cool ideas Countdown had.

  • @benjaminmuratore9341
    @benjaminmuratore9341 Рік тому +18

    The title/thumbnail gave me the impression that this was actually an attempt made in the 90's, not the 80's.

  • @nigelflood7074
    @nigelflood7074 Рік тому +24

    Damn , that Capt Marvel relaunch would have made a pretty sweet Black Label book lol

  • @shoresean1237
    @shoresean1237 Рік тому +9

    From what I've heard, the bad blood between Roy and DC started when he was assured Earth-2 would survive the COIE intact, and this promise was broken, and more, seemed like it was never in play to start with.

  • @mrkaji8913
    @mrkaji8913 Рік тому +2

    6:11 hard core fan

  • @jordanloux3883
    @jordanloux3883 Рік тому +3

    So Billy almost had an awkward edgelord teenager phase... I can see that working as a comedy series actually

  • @smiller2044
    @smiller2044 Рік тому +9

    Shazam in theaters is good! Glad that Zac *IS* the superhero, great casting all around & even for Shazam Family (different then comics and it works)!

  • @GerarddeSouza-yt3fc
    @GerarddeSouza-yt3fc Рік тому +3

    Horrible. Give me "Bright, silly and goofy."
    "Okay, boomer."

  • @radiant_ways0746
    @radiant_ways0746 Рік тому +9

    I'm glad to have watched another one of your award-winning content Drake

  • @andrewcook3983
    @andrewcook3983 Рік тому +7

    The way it comes in the vid is that Roy Thomas didn't do much whilst he was at DC, but that is far from the cases. I didn't read all of his output at the time, but two of my favourites to this day are All Star Squadron and Infinity Inc., both started before Crisis on Infinite Earths, being set on Earth 2, and impacted by that event.

  • @luigiboi4244
    @luigiboi4244 Рік тому +7

    I mostly know Roy Thomas for his work on the early Avengers comics, with my favorite being the 2-Part Story introducing The Vision. That story will forever be one of my favorite stories thanks to Roy.

  • @theodorequakins2636
    @theodorequakins2636 Рік тому +5

    I can't even imagine how they wrote that crossover comic. Like, how do you write an interesting story about superman switching places with magic superman?

    • @ComicDrake
      @ComicDrake  Рік тому +9

      It's actually kind of interesting. When Superman says Shazam, he turns into a non-super powered Clark Kent. That said, it's a Mr. Mxyzptlk book and plays out like most of his plots. So if you don't like them, you might want to skip it.

  • @ThePkmnYPerson
    @ThePkmnYPerson Рік тому +1

    The DCEU having the same "We can't make up our minds" problem that this comic book did shows DC has learned nothing.

  • @mathieuleader8601
    @mathieuleader8601 Рік тому +4

    Elvis is a big Shazam fan

  • @mathieuleader8601
    @mathieuleader8601 Рік тому +3

    Imagine a timeline whereby Elvis played Shazam

  • @samuelturner6076
    @samuelturner6076 Рік тому +3

    6:14 Hi, I’d love to see that prince video if you’d want to make it.

  • @lucyinchat
    @lucyinchat Рік тому +1

    Talk about The Prince comic!

  • @kirbymarchbarcena
    @kirbymarchbarcena Рік тому +1

    Roy's time was a wasted magic

  • @christopherb501
    @christopherb501 Рік тому +3

    I forget, did you ever talk about the edgy reboot that _did_ happen in the New 52?

  • @nicodemusedwards6931
    @nicodemusedwards6931 Рік тому +1

    My family didn’t believe me when I said Shazam was awesome. They thought I was crazy when I told them I wanted to see the first Shazam movie… look who’s laughing now.

  • @insanemakaioshin
    @insanemakaioshin Рік тому +2

    That could've been a good elseworld story.

  • @dandragon8595
    @dandragon8595 Рік тому +2

    DC Comics eventually did their dark, edgy, Captain Marvel reboot in the New 52. And It sucked and is the unfortunate basis for the first and second Shazam movies. Not in tone but in things like him not being worthy of the power of Captain Marvel, making Billy a little angry child as opposed to the one that despite the hardships in life, he is still a good kid with a kind heart, not perfect but a good person to be deserving of the power. Black Adam's new origin, doing the shazam family in the first arc. Note: This is not me saying that you can't tell dark or more mature stories with this character, but he has to have the core of his character stay the same. The best example I can give is in the episode "Clash" from Justice League: Unlimited.

  • @Magmafrost13
    @Magmafrost13 Рік тому +1

    For a moment I thought you were gonna say the law firm sponsor represented your girlfriend and/or the lady that hit her, which would've been a really funny story. "Hey law firm involved in my girlfriend's car crash, wanna sponsor a youtube video?" and/or "hey boyfriend of our client, want us to sponsor one of your youtube videos?"

  • @comixproviderftw_02
    @comixproviderftw_02 Рік тому +2

    0:32 That’s… Interesting.

  • @tskmaster3837
    @tskmaster3837 Рік тому +1

    I read that as "HOT Fred McMurry" which makes more sense.

  • @tantryl
    @tantryl 11 місяців тому

    Was totally expecting this to turn into a Miracleman video.

  • @Tussin59
    @Tussin59 Рік тому +2

    I mean in the lexicon of pop culutre those old enough to remember gomer pyle know the catch phrase Sha-uh-zam which is in reference to the character . I have an affinity for the original version where billy is the kid and shazam is the adult not the other way around in the new movies. He was the first comic character I remember finding in my youth keep up the good content I enjoy your youtube and tiktok stuff.

  • @djpegao
    @djpegao Рік тому +1

    Whoa, glad to see you were able to make some time from studying in order to make this video, NGL some of the decisions are quite...... unorthodox and waaaaay out there; but I would like to see these pages colored just to grasp any sense of what they were supposed to look like

  • @fernandozavaletabustos205
    @fernandozavaletabustos205 Рік тому

    Thank you for making another interesting video as always!!

  • @WylsComics
    @WylsComics Рік тому +2

    Award Winning

  • @DavidAllgaier_
    @DavidAllgaier_ Рік тому

    5:13 funny correction 😂

  • @ricky865
    @ricky865 Рік тому +1

    Personally I think if this Comic would have come out it would have been moved to the Vertigo imprint without a doubt and it would have done very well there if written correctly.

  • @togorconquest2372
    @togorconquest2372 Рік тому +1

    Id love to see goth chris. I give the look a 9/10. Little too much pink for me, but ya always beautiful!

  • @TheCreepypro
    @TheCreepypro Рік тому +1

    a shame what they did to roy hope he is doing better

  • @breawycker
    @breawycker Рік тому

    DC might as well be called EM for executive meddling

  • @TevyaSmolka
    @TevyaSmolka Рік тому +2

    This Shazam! Captain marvel Reboot sounded so bad and a complete trainwreck from the very beginning.

  • @alexandermccalla5098
    @alexandermccalla5098 Рік тому +1

    They kinda did do the edgy Mary thing. I remember a forum of Mary during Countdown to Final Crisis. Mary altered by Eclipso I think.
    I would love to see Shazam say the magic word and turn in MJ.

  • @trex23d
    @trex23d Рік тому +2

    Does anyone know what issue of Alter Ego talks about the cancelled gritty pitch? I'd love to read more about it

  • @michaelkantner6420
    @michaelkantner6420 Рік тому

    I really like all of your videos! You are very thorough and knowledgeable, and you have a great sense of humor. I am amazed on how much research you do in order to make a video, and unlike some random commentors, you KNOW your shit!

  • @Abominatrix650
    @Abominatrix650 Рік тому

    Thank you for another informative video, Drake!

  • @sahilhossain8204
    @sahilhossain8204 Рік тому

    Lore of The Edgy Shazam Reboot DC Comics Didn't Want You to See momentum 100

  • @SKOURGEOFORCE
    @SKOURGEOFORCE Рік тому +1

    I Like the Michael Jackson / Elvis Shazam the be awesome why they do that.

  • @colinakersakers44
    @colinakersakers44 Рік тому +1

    While the story of this sucks for the people involved who just wanted to tell their stories, I can’t say I’m to bummed out that we missed our chance to see Shazam with some edge. Shazam is the last character who needs some edge thrown in there besides Superman

  • @alecaquino4306
    @alecaquino4306 Рік тому

    Dwayne McDuffie kind of looks like Keegan-Michael Key.

  • @ValueNetwork
    @ValueNetwork Рік тому

    Not the first Morgan and Morgan UA-cam sponsor I’ve seen, and honestly I don’t mind that. It’s not a very Intrusive sponsor, although it is very American

  • @leegish6984
    @leegish6984 Рік тому

    I love the pineapple shirt

  • @maximusprime3459
    @maximusprime3459 Рік тому

    They need to just adapt the Jerry Ordway run from the 1990s.

  • @chwenhoou
    @chwenhoou Рік тому +1

    Ultimately, thank god for The Power of Shazam by Jerry Ordway. This failed pitch reeks of copying Alan Moore's Miracle Man. Which is ironic, TBH. Miracle Man was based on the UK version of Captain Marvel.

  • @douglasbriel6103
    @douglasbriel6103 Рік тому

    The latest run was good, but Johns wasn't getting his scripts in on time.

  • @talkingqueen9587
    @talkingqueen9587 Місяць тому

    while all shazam comics dont need to be magical and goofy, i think many of the ones who are are definitly the best. the original comics were fun, and worked solely on comic magic. that was a big part of why it was fun, at least for me. im still rooting for dc to bring back tawky tawny properly.

  • @kr555wizard
    @kr555wizard Рік тому +1

    I would have loved to see the michael jackson based design in an official comic, though I def don't think an edgier captain marvel would work. Like not unless they aged up billy himself to his late teens, and changed the reasoning he got his powers.

  • @M567dk
    @M567dk Рік тому

    Here I thought the new 52 version of Shazam as a bit dark given its take on the Captain Marvel character.

  • @garrettkujo26
    @garrettkujo26 Рік тому

    Ohhh you should do a video on Mr. Miracle, my favorite run is the one from 2017. Or do a video on the Prince comic, I've read it and its something, something interesting

  • @kingmkplayz
    @kingmkplayz Рік тому +1

    Did he saw law firm?

  • @jeremytung1632
    @jeremytung1632 Рік тому

    Shazam was not made for edgy stories, so it’s no wonder this one didn’t make it very far.

  • @diegodreossi1458
    @diegodreossi1458 Рік тому

    Shazam 2 is a good movie, i recommend watch it in theaters

  • @daelen.cclark
    @daelen.cclark Рік тому +1

    I found this decent enough of a pitch, but I think Ordway’s SHAZAM series was better.

  • @NickolasNameolas
    @NickolasNameolas Рік тому

    Prince had 2 comics, the second one is harder to find, international spy thing, I think.

  • @holbvgbbbbkfz
    @holbvgbbbbkfz Рік тому +4

    Sorry about your girlfriend
    Hope she's cool now

    • @ComicDrake
      @ComicDrake  Рік тому +7

      The insurance company deemed it a total loss so we're waiting for them to finally give us the check so we can get her something new.
      Luckily I work from home so I've just been letting her use my car for the past month.

  • @mathieuleader8601
    @mathieuleader8601 Рік тому +1

    Michael Jackson almost got to buy Marvel as a whole

  • @MJ-oi6ul
    @MJ-oi6ul Рік тому

    You would make such a perfect boyfriend with all that big brain and sweet personality ❤

  • @nolanmartin3573
    @nolanmartin3573 Рік тому

    What's that upside down pineapple doing on your shirt? You trying to tell us something?

  • @drbone3959
    @drbone3959 Рік тому +3

    shazam

  • @randallguzik3764
    @randallguzik3764 Рік тому

    Are you going to do a follow up on the John Byrne pitch that he drew before Jerry ORDWAY got the gig?

  • @alanemocab3465
    @alanemocab3465 Рік тому

    I've heard of from justice league unlimited.

  • @dancinswords
    @dancinswords Місяць тому

    Captain Marvel and Superman switched powersets... Isn't that like saying Batman and Robin switched powersets?

  • @fadeldennawi7133
    @fadeldennawi7133 Рік тому

    You HAVE to do a Ben 10 video

  • @sahuanitasahu7696
    @sahuanitasahu7696 Рік тому

    It be cool to see (m.j)Micheal Jackson Shazam take on mizan from demon Slayer m.j vs m.j

  • @juanbisonosuero3650
    @juanbisonosuero3650 Рік тому

    Back When dc had editing

  • @Isaiah_Drake
    @Isaiah_Drake Рік тому

    Morgan and Morgan.
    for the people👍🏿 oh wait sorry 👍🏻

  • @juliusbossman7280
    @juliusbossman7280 Рік тому

    Love your videos
    What awards have you won?

  • @TheComediAnimal
    @TheComediAnimal Рік тому

    Had to look to be sure but after you mentioned Roy Thomas being a big writer for X-Men and then the...really fucked up way that Shazam book was gonna start I had to go check something.
    Way back in X-Men #57 (During the arc where Alex Summers begins developing his powers/becoming Havok and the X-Men fighting the Living Monolith) there's a scene where a ticked off Cyclops yells at a bunch of Egyptian law enforcement (I think they were law enforcement) and calls them a slur for Middle Eastern people?? Like I don't know if the phrase was full on considered a slur yet back in the late 60s/early 70s but it's genuinely shocking to see a slur pop up in a comic...let alone being shouted by one of the heroes??? And then later on a messed up series of stereotypes thankfully gets lost to time??
    Like that's a pretty uncomfortable trend that thankfully doesn't seem to happen again or I feel it'd be more discussed considering how well recognized his works are.

  • @gokublack1222
    @gokublack1222 Рік тому +1

    Yo

  • @TheYugikuza
    @TheYugikuza Рік тому +1

    Your shameless sponsoring is cring worthy my friend keep it up 😂

  • @denistuohy2535
    @denistuohy2535 Рік тому

    NGL I think Roy Thomas is a great creator, but his version of Shazam sounds god awful. Who knows how it would've come out but in principle it sounds really bad.

  • @arcadiaberger9204
    @arcadiaberger9204 Рік тому

    [Le Sigh] No reboot at all is better than an edgy reboot.

  • @AbiyBattleSpell
    @AbiyBattleSpell Рік тому

    so ur gonna pound some law hehe porn joke 🐱

  • @JamesWyatt-o5j
    @JamesWyatt-o5j Рік тому

    NO you WILL NOT see us "next time"!!!! I try to watch these videos with my 7 year old and you keep dropping F-Bombs, because you are immature and inconsiderate of your audience. Nice example, Drake.

    • @ComicDrake
      @ComicDrake  Рік тому +2

      I'm not trying to be a fucking example. 😂 At no point have I ever claimed to be a child friendly channel.
      Besides, they're harmless words. Anything that isn't a racial slur only has power because the overly sensitive and easily offended make it so. I've never understood all the pearl clutching.

    • @ComicDrake
      @ComicDrake  6 місяців тому

      I'm really disappointed in you. Based on this comment, you said you were going to stop watching my videos and yet you're watching and commenting on other stuff? No integrity at all.

  • @wmdbassplayer
    @wmdbassplayer Рік тому +1

    Sorry, but I bailed as soon as you said "a guy named Roy Thomas." I've seen a few of your videos and they're usually alright, but here you really sound like someone who knows nothing about comics, isn't really into them, and is just a good script reader. I'll admit it's probably a generational thing since I was reading comics since the 1960's, but that line gave me "I don't know who this Paul McCartney is but Kanye's gonna make him blow up" meme vibes.

    • @ComicDrake
      @ComicDrake  Рік тому +7

      Bro. I am a professional comic book historian. I know all about Roy Thomas.
      I make videos for non-comic readers, so I present things in a more conversational tone. It's not that deep.

    • @wmdbassplayer
      @wmdbassplayer Рік тому

      @@ComicDrake yeah, okay. Sounds like I touched a nerve. I know who Roy Thomas is, too. I'm a professional musician and I can imagine the reaction I'd get if I referenced "a guy named Duke Ellington" in a conversational manner.

    • @ComicDrake
      @ComicDrake  Рік тому

      @@wmdbassplayer And as a huge Duke Ellington fan, I wouldn't get triggered if you said that. Yes, he was widely influential, but it's understandable if not, everybody knows who he is.
      This is the same energy that people getting pissed off at Billie Eilish for not knowing about Van Halen.

  • @soltandvinegar
    @soltandvinegar Рік тому +43

    I paused the video for about three hours, and once I unpaused it I saw Drake pointing at me and saying "Bitch, give me some damn super powers."

    • @TitularHeroine
      @TitularHeroine Рік тому +2

      So did you do it??

    • @soltandvinegar
      @soltandvinegar Рік тому +5

      @@TitularHeroine sadly I lack a magical staff imbued with the powers of ancient gods and heroes :(

  • @wdcain1
    @wdcain1 Рік тому +41

    Grant Morrison took the Doom Patrol in some dark places in his '90s reboot (child molestation, psychological damage, and gender identity) but he still let his run be goofy and fun.

    • @nikolasmokalis3425
      @nikolasmokalis3425 Рік тому +11

      Grants approach to superhero stuff imo is to keep the actions of the characters the same but make the continuity that informs their actions more detailed/mature

    • @breawycker
      @breawycker Рік тому +8

      Grant uses they/them pronouns

    • @wdcain1
      @wdcain1 Рік тому +4

      @@breawycker My mistake.

    • @concept5631
      @concept5631 11 місяців тому +2

      ​@@wdcain1 Hella based for admitting your mistake and not doubling down.

    • @wdcain1
      @wdcain1 11 місяців тому +2

      @@concept5631 It's logical to acknowledge your mistakes. Otherwise you won't learn anything.

  • @owensreviews625
    @owensreviews625 Рік тому +174

    Shame that Roy got burned by DC like that. It’s truly sad when you hear about when writers or artists get to work on their dream characters for the big 2, only to get screwed over when they try to bring their ideas to life (even if they weren’t considered good).

    • @daelen.cclark
      @daelen.cclark Рік тому +13

      At least let them down easy when the idea isn’t good.

    • @andrewcook3983
      @andrewcook3983 Рік тому +8

      He did get to do a few Earth 2 titles that he created - All Star Squadron (the expanded JSA during WWII and Infinity Inc. (the sons and daughters of the JSA, set in contemporary times) - prior to Crisis on Infinite Earths.

    • @RoverBoy1899
      @RoverBoy1899 Рік тому

      Black Adam also appeared in the Bronze Age Shazam comic.

    • @brianthomas2434
      @brianthomas2434 Рік тому +2

      What was really a shame was Roy's reboot plan. That someone who had read original Captain Marvel stories when they were new thought "updating " him to be just another eighties superhero makes me lose some respect for Thomas, whose career I followed almost from its beginning.
      Cap CAN'T be updated. The kid friendliness, innocence and even silliness is part and parcel of him. You want to write "mature " stuff, create a new character. Don't make Captain Marvel a character he isn't.
      Or wasn't, really. DC tried to revive CM, looking for the huge sales he had in the Forties. They didn't consider those sales came from a different time and a different readership. Their only sensible option is to admit defeat and forget the character. But since they can sell, what twenty thousand copies of an issue, they won't.
      The fact that in the past, Whiz Comics and Captain Marvel Adventures sold hundreds of thousands of copies.....Well, at least we sell SOMETHING.

    • @brianthomas2434
      @brianthomas2434 Рік тому

      ​@@daelen.cclarkand baby, this sucked MASSIVELY!

  • @majinsole8554
    @majinsole8554 Рік тому +18

    Shazam almost looked straight outta JoJo’s, that’s wild 😆
    ~_~

  • @humachine6738
    @humachine6738 Рік тому +47

    If you want to read some good Shazam stories, I highly recommend Shazam & The Monster Society of Evil by Jeff Smith. Great book and it’s from the guy who created Bone.
    Wow! Roy Thomas’ potential Shazam reboot is WILD! I mean it’s not surprising that someone may have wanted to try a darker and edgier reboot for Shazam back in the 80s, but I never would have expected that Roy Thomas would be the creative mind behind it.
    You’d think Roy being such a big fan of CM he’d want to bring back the elements of what he liked when he read the books as a kid like maybe the fantasy and whimsical elements, but NOPE! I think the problem with Roy’s pitch is that he’s trying to make CM fit with the trends of the 80s (dark and gritty) rather than bring back what made it popular in the 40s and make it work for the modern day (see Jeff Smith’s Shazam book for a great example of how that could work).

  • @geoffreyrichards6079
    @geoffreyrichards6079 Рік тому +96

    I gotta admit… I kinda like the Prince/Jackson-styled take on Captain Marvel. It does help give him some visual distinction from Superman.

    • @ItsButterBean1020
      @ItsButterBean1020 Рік тому +10

      Honestly it does kinda work for me, I’d be down for it as an alternate superhero or version of Shazam out there

    • @kingofthegundam7974
      @kingofthegundam7974 Рік тому +13

      I wouldn't have minded a more rock and roll take on Captain Marvel like that... I just wish the rest of the pitch wasn''t nearly so weird.

    • @caliken10
      @caliken10 Рік тому

      Is it me or is there a little young Elvis mixed in that design?

    • @TheZooropaBaby
      @TheZooropaBaby Рік тому +3

      I guess injecting pop icon stuff makes sense, ive heard Elvis Presley loved Captain Marvel Jr and his visual was inspired by Cap Jr's appearance, so yeah why not work in pop culture of the then-current singers and what not?

    • @tonypeppermint5329
      @tonypeppermint5329 Рік тому

      ​@@ItsButterBean1020 Oh yeah.

  • @prime7213
    @prime7213 Рік тому +5

    Gosh I hate how there’s this idea that dark/gritty = mature in all media. I’m all for taking a silly property and making it “mature” but that doesn’t mean you have to take every taboo topic under the sun and throw it in your book.
    Look at IDW’s Ninja Turtles or Boom Studio’s Power Ranger. Both are more mature versions of children’s properties but don’t feel the need to prove their badassery with hyper violence and sex, they do it with strong writing and multidimensional characters.

    • @felixdaniels37
      @felixdaniels37 22 дні тому

      IDW TMNT is godawful, I wouldn't exactly put that as a good example at all.

  • @jameslink8
    @jameslink8 Рік тому +14

    The dark & edgy stuff is one thing I don't miss from the 90's. Long comment sorry & going to get into some personal stuff, but I found you're channel about 5 years ago & subscribed, but a few months later I was hit by a car & in the hospital for a few weeks it broke vertebra in my neck, cracked my skull & de-gloved my scalp, cracked my right shoulder blade almost in half & broke my left leg & shattered my ankle so now I can't work or get out much so I get lonely & bored, had to move back in with my parents & all we have is Direct TV & there's never anything on so now I just watch UA-cam on my Xbox & talking to my therapist, my medication, weed & you're videos help with my loneliness & boredom & I just wanted to say thank you for that

  • @doubleberger5983
    @doubleberger5983 Рік тому +3

    And Roy Thomas...LIKED captain marvel?

  • @koushikraja331
    @koushikraja331 Рік тому +4

    Ironic they wanted to make the edgy captain marvel design based on Michael Jackson and Bruce Springsteen, but Elvis' outfits and style was based on his favorite superhero, Captain Marvel Jr.

  • @henriqueabreu9706
    @henriqueabreu9706 Рік тому +4

    That Michael Jackson inspired costume looks like some kind of fever dream LMAO

  • @eliandervalderen5849
    @eliandervalderen5849 Рік тому +2

    I cannot imagine a Captain Marvel based on Michael Jackson