As long as the engine is in good condition a rebuild is not required. Fuel pump and fuel injector upgrade service is included, that is all that is required for the fuel system upgrades. ACT street strip is the clutch we recommend, and sell. Stock will work fine up to 300rwhp. Tuning is hard with the Cobb AP, easier with the adaptronic we sell. Dyno tuning is essential for a safe tune over 300rwhp. Adaptronic has anti lag built into the software.
I have a CNC ported (intake and exhaust ports) renesis with rx7 apex seals and an Fd oil regulator.. no studding, how much boost do you think I could pump in there without blowing it up? Just running pump gas, nothing fancy
Mine is being finished up by lucky 7 racing. Rew engine though. 40th AE also. Only shooting for 350rwhp on this set up. Will go for more when rebuild porting comes in a few years.
1st time Ive ever seen a boosted rx8 make good power. You guys know your stuff and now, I might just consider buying one since they are very easy to obtain w/ low miles and Im looking for something different
@TurblownEng Congrats than amazing job ! Planing to buy a turbo kit for my 8 and your kit seems the best one among the ones I saw. what you've done has to be respected :)
Thank you very much, yes it's an 04 with only 30,000 on her, and I’ve taken very good care of her since getting her in 04, it's time for boost. All my cars are boosted and it is something the rx-8 defiantly needs. So I take it with the motor re-build with better studs and a bridge port or a street port and beefier apex seals with a fuel safe in the trunk full of race gas you can start cranking up the boost with this kit? I'm shooting for more in the 400 to 450 wheel horse range.
@rcx6000 We are working on that, going to make an inconel heat shield for the motor/lines that is down there. I am pretty sure we can make it work. Key is reliability.
I'm finding this hard to believe. the renesis by design isn't the most reliable of rotarys and the 10:1 compression makes it hard to turbo. if you are pushing 425 boosted, i would think the motor wouldnt have long to live. what have you done to create a more reliable system? and why not just go with a REW swap with some bolt ons?
@@ryanturriff6020 I'm of the opinion that it isn't impossible but the cost isn't worth it at all. You could just as easily make about 300 bhp with the stock MSP engine (no porting), *some* boost and a decent turbo kit but it'll cost you a small fortune compared to the higher end big boi numbers. If you want MORE power, the REW swap or 3 rotor (20B) cosmo is the way to go but as I understand it, it'll cost you about 35 to 60k just to run those setups. Most people would rather just rebuilt and either streetport or semi-bridgeport the reman engine to keep it reliable, but leave out any thought of FI kits. Porting it gives you some decent hp figures tbh and I'd rather stick to design specs.
If you've driven an RX-8 or any other previous RX-7, you know that having full boost at 3800 rpm is quite early in the rev range. the engine doesn't even come alive until 6k anyway.
Perhaps that's why they put it so low. To get some life down in the lower rpms. I've driven a friend of mine's rx8 and it felt like pulling teeth going through gears. Just took forever lol
@Xxkamillgxx our comments were removed. but to answer your question, yes I drove a turbo rx8, 3 of my friends have rx8's and we cruise s.d. 1 works for pann autos in kearny mesa c.a. he tried the set up as well, and laughed it right off his engine. now hes set for a supercharger. for the reason of a supercharger has torque instantly, and hp. not just low torque, and a seemingly laggy turbo. the turbo has the same effect on all cars, question is: can ur car hold it down till you spool up?
So is this direct bolt on or is there motor rebuilding required with different apex seals and such? What’s all needs to be upgraded on the fuel system just the injectors?? What clutch would you recommend for this kit? Was it hard to tune after? Dose the air/fuel mixture stay stable under boost assuming you have a wide band inside? Do you know if its possable to run somthing like an AEM 2-step anti-lag for these bad boys? (2004 6-speed "type-s") Thanks allot in advance!
If you premix yeah, and any boosted car won't last long. Track driving, and daily driving are different. You don't want boost on as high as you would for track going to the grocery store. Lol
@TurblownEng Easily? I haven't followed the FI scene for the RX-8 closely in a while, but I have yet to see a 13B-MSP make 450 rwhp. Even if there has been one, I don't think you could say it was "easily" done. Also, porting on these engines is fairly limited and I don't think there are enough ported and turbocharged RX-8's to say what kind of results could be consistently expected.
Whats a good turbo setup to run about 300hp and increase torque without sacrificing overal reliability of the motor? I'd like to run as low boost as possible but still increase the torque output.
torque is really low. is there a way to increase torque for drifting purposes? its a nightmare trying to drift on dry roads with my mazda only rain or snow works at the time :(
I have a 2005 rx8 automatic w/ paddle shifters. Would i have to swap the automatic transmission for a manual for you guys to do some work on it? Or do you also work on automatics?
Thanks! However, I'm moving to SoCal soon; Is there any way to pull off having a turbo in Cali? I mean I know you _technically_ can't do it _legally_ or pass smog, but is there any way to bypass the turbo system during smog testing by re-routing the exhaust/intake or anything? Or just... No turbos in Cali?
OtherSyde honestly man its super easy to have a turbo, all my buddies have them. If you go to the right cities you can pay off a dude maybe 100 bucks and he'll pass your car (ie. my buddy actually did this, and instead of using the rod to check his vehicle, he just checked another) Soo, yea sure technically they're not allowed but are definitely legal as the most a cop can do is fine you for whatever law you just flipped
OtherSyde as being one from So Cal, for smog the answer is naw bruah, unless you know someone like the guy above me said, then yeah, other then that, legally, emissions smog is very strict out here
also, how reliable is it? I dont need it to be a DD, just start once or twice a week when I take it out on the weekends. I have a 2004 w/2006 motor in it, has about 70k, runs strong, very much a weekend car these days, so even if I only get 15-20k more out of the motor with the turbo setup it'll take a few years and thats fine by me. Let me know, VERY interested
I got an 06 rx8 automatic gt and I want more power could I install this or better? Will screw me over in the future, would I have problems like maintenance?
looking into buying a 2006 6-speed mazda rx8 with 85k miles on it. i want as much power and reliability as possible. looking on spending about 10k. would that be enough for the 450+ hp range? also i will be driving it on the street as well as the track. so i am looking for something somewhat street legal.lol my main concern is the reliability and life of the engine. all info is greatly appreciated and how could i contact you to get the system installed?
granted stock for stock the 8 has more but when serious wrk is done on the engines the 7 has more output potential. look at the hp on this rx8 pushn 4 500 hp. my rx7 has 750hp all pro racers use the old engines less u go 20b or 26b if u can
Scott D I'm wondering because IIRC, someone told me the 4-Rotor Le Mans-winning rotary monster got about 2 miles per gallon 0.0 It cannot possibly be THAT bad with only 2 rotors, right? But then again, RX8's get shitty mileage to begin with, usually only 16-18mpg realistically. With a massive turbo causing much more rapid and violent combustion from all the extra oxygen forced into the chambers, I wonder how much more fuel consumption there is..? Maybe 8-10mpg?
OtherSyde The 787B did roughly 7 liters per lap (4.6 mpg)! Also weight plays a large factor: 830kg/1830lb (787B) vs 1373kb/3027lb (RX-8) and aerodynamics if you are trying to compare them!
That's why Rotaries have such an advantage with racing, believe it or not rotaries get extremely good mpg on a racetrack. 4.6MPG is amazing for a '90s Le Man's Prototype, usually it's gallons per mile.
Btw, launching a spooled up renesis at 4k is personal preference, depending on how you tune your turbo timer. So your false therer. Launching a bone stock rex at 5500, you were almost correct, but nope. You gain power at 5 grand. till 8.5- 9 grand is cool, but dont tempt overrev with her, because your next shift- will be a ugly one. Carry her lovely through all gears. 5,000rpm-8,500 rpm. You honestly are not in any position to tell me something I experience daily.
to have a daily driver with turbo setup, its safe to run 5 maximum 10lbs boost. she aint cheap, so you better have knowledge about your car instead of saying ooooh i want turbo. drop a grenade in it right now.
No you can't. Technically, you CAN get the motor for about $4000, but you'll need to rebuild it, fab a turbo setup, etc etc... by the time you're done with getting a 20B built and swapped, you're looking at close to $20k
Hello , and with the intake manifold something to do when you put the turbine , with flaps apv ssv and vdi? I want 320-350hp pressure no more than 1bar
Alright kid? Im sorry, what are you trying to do now? And what does "just s" mean? Im turning 30 next month btw.. Kind of grew out of your comment... hm- about 12 years ago.
LOTS of HP, not a whole lot of TQ, but i bet when that turbo spools see ya later, love how ya kept the stock look ppl will just think..no big deal ill race this stock rx8....PPPPPSSSSSSHHHHHHHHHHH(turbo spooling) bye bye
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As long as the engine is in good condition a rebuild is not required. Fuel pump and fuel injector upgrade service is included, that is all that is required for the fuel system upgrades. ACT street strip is the clutch we recommend, and sell. Stock will work fine up to 300rwhp. Tuning is hard with the Cobb AP, easier with the adaptronic we sell. Dyno tuning is essential for a safe tune over 300rwhp. Adaptronic has anti lag built into the software.
paint the intercooler and you've got one HELL of a sleeper!
amazing job guys, congrats on the successful install / tuning.
Correct. One of our customers made 550rwhp with a bigger turbo fuel cell/external fuel pump/return regulator and E85..
Yes easily, just convert to E85 and run a higher boost pressure.
"What is your RX-8 missing?" the RX-8 lol :)))))
What do you mean?
@@DanMarcelino he means he doesn't have one
@@White-nh3nu ahh lol I was thinking maybe he thought it was a REW swap or something
@miatazoomzoom
Motor is bone stock, with porting and more boost you can reach 450+rwhp easily
I have a CNC ported (intake and exhaust ports) renesis with rx7 apex seals and an Fd oil regulator.. no studding, how much boost do you think I could pump in there without blowing it up? Just running pump gas, nothing fancy
Finally. Now I know what to do to my 40th anniversary rx8 as well!
Mine is being finished up by lucky 7 racing. Rew engine though. 40th AE also.
Only shooting for 350rwhp on this set up. Will go for more when rebuild porting comes in a few years.
1st time Ive ever seen a boosted rx8 make good power. You guys know your stuff and now, I might just consider buying one since they are very easy to obtain w/ low miles and Im looking for something different
@CCLemone
We've done over 550rwhp now... Look at our other video...
@TurblownEng Congrats than amazing job ! Planing to buy a turbo kit for my 8 and your kit seems the best one among the ones I saw. what you've done has to be respected :)
@TheMetzio its not laggy at all, full boost is 3800rpms. a 30R does spool slightly faster but makes 100 less rwhp...
This was an incredibly well done video
Its only 10/11psi..It usually takes 22+psi to make a decent amount...
I get 11-13 mpg average in my RX-8. I cant imagine what a turbo would do to that.
+Joseph wilk Change your coils then lol
Boost usually increases mpg. Sounds like bad coils or worst case scenario a blown Apex seal.
Yes. We have an even much better version now!
Thank you very much, yes it's an 04 with only 30,000 on her, and I’ve taken very good care of her since getting her in 04, it's time for boost. All my cars are boosted and it is something the rx-8 defiantly needs. So I take it with the motor re-build with better studs and a bridge port or a street port and beefier apex seals with a fuel safe in the trunk full of race gas you can start cranking up the boost with this kit? I'm shooting for more in the 400 to 450 wheel horse range.
@riorin8829
to get to 330rwhp takes $7,000. Past this will require a clutch, ignition upgrade, and a full exhaust system.
@rcx6000
We are working on that, going to make an inconel heat shield for the motor/lines that is down there. I am pretty sure we can make it work. Key is reliability.
I'm finding this hard to believe. the renesis by design isn't the most reliable of rotarys and the 10:1 compression makes it hard to turbo. if you are pushing 425 boosted, i would think the motor wouldnt have long to live. what have you done to create a more reliable system? and why not just go with a REW swap with some bolt ons?
@@ryanturriff6020 I'm of the opinion that it isn't impossible but the cost isn't worth it at all. You could just as easily make about 300 bhp with the stock MSP engine (no porting), *some* boost and a decent turbo kit but it'll cost you a small fortune compared to the higher end big boi numbers.
If you want MORE power, the REW swap or 3 rotor (20B) cosmo is the way to go but as I understand it, it'll cost you about 35 to 60k just to run those setups.
Most people would rather just rebuilt and either streetport or semi-bridgeport the reman engine to keep it reliable, but leave out any thought of FI kits. Porting it gives you some decent hp figures tbh and I'd rather stick to design specs.
@Munroman
Yes it is different. We didn't have the camera filming the monitor during that pull.
This is an awesome video.
i want a turbo so freaking bad...
All the Rx-8s we have installed our turbo system are currently running...
If you've driven an RX-8 or any other previous RX-7, you know that having full boost at 3800 rpm is quite early in the rev range. the engine doesn't even come alive until 6k anyway.
Perhaps that's why they put it so low. To get some life down in the lower rpms. I've driven a friend of mine's rx8 and it felt like pulling teeth going through gears. Just took forever lol
Looking to buy this kit...do you think I can track my rx8 with it?
Do you think you guys could up the Torque on this great build? love the professional finish of the work....you guys need to come to Florida!
@Xxkamillgxx our comments were removed. but to answer your question, yes I drove a turbo rx8, 3 of my friends have rx8's and we cruise s.d. 1 works for pann autos in kearny mesa c.a. he tried the set up as well, and laughed it right off his engine. now hes set for a supercharger. for the reason of a supercharger has torque instantly, and hp. not just low torque, and a seemingly laggy turbo. the turbo has the same effect on all cars, question is: can ur car hold it down till you spool up?
Great setup, i'm not a huge fan of steel motor mounts though :)
Oh lawd dat toruqe. Shame I forgot the RX-8 when I was car shopping last November, heard they're very nimble despite not really looking like they are.
@TurblownEng Cool, PS make sure the sohn omp adapter fits in there, lol.
Just steel motor mount brackets, uses the OEM motor mounts...
I wonder if you can do anything to jump start that torque line.
depends on the turbo you use.
That is a nice setup guys. Is that 425hp graph at 2:07 also at 11.5 psi like the video'd monitor?
I will defff! get the same set-up!
@Jedi054 I dunno if i would consider any rx8 a sleeper myself.
how much would the modification cost me? i am hoping to get a 2004 Rx-8 for like 8 k and modify it like the one you have! so cool
How many miles until the engine couldn't keep up and it needed a rebuild?
Point of ReView Media 5 lol
So is this direct bolt on or is there motor rebuilding required with different apex seals and such? What’s all needs to be upgraded on the fuel system just the injectors??
What clutch would you recommend for this kit?
Was it hard to tune after? Dose the air/fuel mixture stay stable under boost assuming you have a wide band inside?
Do you know if its possable to run somthing like an AEM 2-step anti-lag for these bad boys? (2004 6-speed "type-s") Thanks allot in advance!
That Renny aint gonna last too long @ 425whp
If you premix yeah, and any boosted car won't last long. Track driving, and daily driving are different. You don't want boost on as high as you would for track going to the grocery store. Lol
@TurblownEng Easily? I haven't followed the FI scene for the RX-8 closely in a while, but I have yet to see a 13B-MSP make 450 rwhp. Even if there has been one, I don't think you could say it was "easily" done. Also, porting on these engines is fairly limited and I don't think there are enough ported and turbocharged RX-8's to say what kind of results could be consistently expected.
We've have installed our turbo system on several automatics.
Did this person have traction with the 225’s??
ports?? and hows the cobb accessport working?? would you still recommended that or something else now??@TurbownEng
I have an anniversary additio really need new ignition a turbo and a good exhaust
Wrong.
the MSP makes MORE power than any other non-turbo production 13B.
Is the graph at 2.07 different to the one shown when on dyno?
Whats a good turbo setup to run about 300hp and increase torque without sacrificing overal reliability of the motor? I'd like to run as low boost as possible but still increase the torque output.
torque is really low. is there a way to increase torque for drifting purposes?
its a nightmare trying to drift on dry roads with my mazda only rain or snow works at the time :(
I have a 2005 rx8 automatic w/ paddle shifters. Would i have to swap the automatic transmission for a manual for you guys to do some work on it? Or do you also work on automatics?
For those looking to purchase this turbo system;
www.turbosource.com/Turblown-RX-8-Top-Mount-Turbo-System-p/ts4-23-46105.htm
Thanks! However, I'm moving to SoCal soon; Is there any way to pull off having a turbo in Cali? I mean I know you _technically_ can't do it _legally_ or pass smog, but is there any way to bypass the turbo system during smog testing by re-routing the exhaust/intake or anything? Or just... No turbos in Cali?
OtherSyde honestly man its super easy to have a turbo, all my buddies have them. If you go to the right cities you can pay off a dude maybe 100 bucks and he'll pass your car (ie. my buddy actually did this, and instead of using the rod to check his vehicle, he just checked another) Soo, yea sure technically they're not allowed but are definitely legal as the most a cop can do is fine you for whatever law you just flipped
OtherSyde as being one from So Cal, for smog the answer is naw bruah, unless you know someone like the guy above me said, then yeah, other then that, legally, emissions smog is very strict out here
@TurblownEng do you still make the top mount system for the rx8
also, how reliable is it? I dont need it to be a DD, just start once or twice a week when I take it out on the weekends. I have a 2004 w/2006 motor in it, has about 70k, runs strong, very much a weekend car these days, so even if I only get 15-20k more out of the motor with the turbo setup it'll take a few years and thats fine by me. Let me know, VERY interested
Did you had a huge turbo lag ? 35r is way too big have you tried with 30r ? Can engine fill the 35r easily ?
Is that a racing beat muffler and midpipe?
is there sluggish amount of lag with these rotaries?
I got an 06 rx8 automatic gt and I want more power could I install this or better? Will screw me over in the future, would I have problems like maintenance?
looking into buying a 2006 6-speed mazda rx8 with 85k miles on it. i want as much power and reliability as possible. looking on spending about 10k. would that be enough for the 450+ hp range? also i will be driving it on the street as well as the track. so i am looking for something somewhat street legal.lol my main concern is the reliability and life of the engine. all info is greatly appreciated and how could i contact you to get the system installed?
How is this car holding up? any problems? Also is it running race gas or pump?
You'll have to add 1000+ for an ECU and the cost of tuning. More like 8,000$
So is it $6500 + a Tune out the doors? Installed and everything? Also is this engine stock or did you put new apex seals, different rotors etc.
granted stock for stock the 8 has more but when serious wrk is done on the engines the 7 has more output potential. look at the hp on this rx8 pushn 4 500 hp. my rx7 has 750hp all pro racers use the old engines less u go 20b or 26b if u can
Stupid question but whats the effect on mpg now?
About how much money this whole thing cost with installation and all?
Did it blow up
That’s on a renesis?
Doesn't change if you don't drive it hard.
the tC was catching up...i guess it had at least 400HP too
what is this acceleration speed for this vehicle ?
this is my fav vid
Yeah..having a sleeper rx-8 is like having a sleeper Corvette,lol.
Just out of sheer morbid curiosity, what kind of MPG does this monster get?
not good would be my guess
Scott D I'm wondering because IIRC, someone told me the 4-Rotor Le Mans-winning rotary monster got about 2 miles per gallon 0.0 It cannot possibly be THAT bad with only 2 rotors, right? But then again, RX8's get shitty mileage to begin with, usually only 16-18mpg realistically. With a massive turbo causing much more rapid and violent combustion from all the extra oxygen forced into the chambers, I wonder how much more fuel consumption there is..? Maybe 8-10mpg?
OtherSyde The 787B did roughly 7 liters per lap (4.6 mpg)! Also weight plays a large factor: 830kg/1830lb (787B) vs 1373kb/3027lb (RX-8) and aerodynamics if you are trying to compare them!
That's why Rotaries have such an advantage with racing, believe it or not rotaries get extremely good mpg on a racetrack. 4.6MPG is amazing for a '90s Le Man's Prototype, usually it's gallons per mile.
My stock rx8 makes 21-25 highway but when i get on it it's somewhere around 15-18 mpg
Btw, launching a spooled up renesis at 4k is personal preference, depending on how you tune your turbo timer. So your false therer. Launching a bone stock rex at 5500, you were almost correct, but nope. You gain power at 5 grand. till 8.5- 9 grand is cool, but dont tempt overrev with her, because your next shift- will be a ugly one. Carry her lovely through all gears. 5,000rpm-8,500 rpm. You honestly are not in any position to tell me something I experience daily.
Renesis or Rew?
lol, when the engine bay turned up i was like: where the hell is the engineXD
What's the gas mileage now?
Make it work with the OMP and I am sold.
Whats the mileage now?
i cant imagine the MPG on this car ouchhhhhhhhhh >
how much plus install?
the only thing i don't like is the intercooler placement...
You must like hot intake air. FMI is needed on such a setup.
i am using water to air intercooer where they put the turbo and turbo where they put the intercooer
how much did all this cost?
13,000
Mark Wright yah, a really shitty Porsche.
@dan Martin where did you get it done?
haha rx8's don't cost 2 grand, do research before you even say anything lol
DIY or shop
stock engine???
2:37 he was so not going 35 m/h XO
nice setup, but lol at un-centered intercooler.
whats the mpg now? like 10? lol
@kllgn2 ?
dont know what your saying.
They used the Star Trek intro. lol
wish my boy can do that
i was all ready to get a fc rx7 until i see this long sigh idk what i want now
Im jealous i want an rx8 like that its beast
im only running 250hp on mine :(
poop:(
250 with NA?
to have a daily driver with turbo setup, its safe to run 5 maximum 10lbs boost. she aint cheap, so you better have knowledge about your car instead of saying ooooh i want turbo. drop a grenade in it right now.
$6500+ an ECU & Tuning
No you can't.
Technically, you CAN get the motor for about $4000, but you'll need to rebuild it, fab a turbo setup, etc etc... by the time you're done with getting a 20B built and swapped, you're looking at close to $20k
Make that 60k.
@@twinblade02 Bro you just replied to an 8 year old post..... tf is wrong with you?
It burned down from a fuel fire a few months ago after the owner upgraded the injectors :(.
Hello , and with the intake manifold something to do when you put the turbine , with flaps apv ssv and vdi? I want 320-350hp pressure no more than 1bar
wats omp
Alright kid? Im sorry, what are you trying to do now?
And what does "just s" mean?
Im turning 30 next month btw.. Kind of grew out of your comment... hm- about 12 years ago.
that torque curve.......kinda sad
That car obviously had a FMIC...
LOTS of HP, not a whole lot of TQ, but i bet when that turbo spools see ya later, love how ya kept the stock look ppl will just think..no big deal ill race this stock rx8....PPPPPSSSSSSHHHHHHHHHHH(turbo spooling) bye bye
The only thing you did wrong is when you decided wish color to take.... Come on, red blue or white is WAYYY BETTER