@@FishoD So true. While people will have a preference, I think fans will love both and not have a strong dislike for one of them.. Even though Aliens was my introduction to the franchise, thriller beats action... but only just.
I can't be unbiased. I think in terms of technicality and importance, Alien will win every time. But Aliens is my favorite movie. It's perfect. It makes the watcher feel helpless, and then empowered, which is a fantastic feeling. I watched in so many times I practically wore out the VHS tape of it.
Sigourney Weaver is so amazing, in all her movies she brings an authenticity which really carries the realism of the film. I mean look at Ghostbusters for crying out loud, what a ridiculous premise of a movie, but it works because she brought such authenticity to it to counterbalance the craziness and humour of the SNL Crew, who were amazing too. She is highly underrated IMO.
@@aerthreepwood8021 No, not really. I think I’m a pretty easy film customer. I want to be entertained and I love beautiful visuals, so Mr Scott’s been doing fine by me.
@@conmadben I think I must be one of the few that really liked both Prometheus and Covenant. I got exactly what I wanted: Gorgeous movies in the Ridley Scott “Alien” universe. I felt like I understood exactly what he was doing in each movie. For me they are all self-contained experiences and I love each of them for slightly different reasons.
Aliens was my introduction to the franchise thanks to my older brother. It would have been recorded off TV so would have had been an edited version. I would have been about that same age, or maybe slightly younger. I actually love all of the first 3 movies. I follow a lot of people who cover movies. While I have no doubt that the chest-burster scene would have been intense. I've only heard recently that there was a pretty intense reaction to Ash's head. Any memories. Because I watched Aliens many many times before finally seeing Alien. The chestburster was drilled into me an an emotionally visceral moment because of Ripley's reaction rather than a purely gruesome one. I also knew about Ash being an Android. Sorry... Artificial Person.
I was 6 the first time I saw Alien, and The Shining, on the same day. At a certain age the atmosphere and psychological scares go right over your head and the movie becomes boring outside of the jumpscare moments. They're only scary when you have the capacity of appreciate them, which says something.
I was so sure that Dallas (Tom) was not actually dead, and he would make a surprise comeback during a climactic showdown, a la 80s action movie. That expectation made the later revelation so much more terrifying.
I was in sixth grade when the movie came out, and my father wouldn't let me see it, but my sixth grade teacher was a huge fan and so he read to the class from the novelization and showed us the Heavy Metal graphic novel (which I bought shortly afterward). I didn't actually see the movie itself until some years later, and even though I knew everything that was going to happen, it was still engrossing and terrifying. What a great film.
When this movie was released, it was like nothing that had ever come before, in terms of the way it was shot, and Scott's vision of a gritty industrial future, and the idea that an exploration of the universe was not necessarily in our best interests. It also was ground breaking in the way the sound and dialog is mixed, and came with a production design and the influence of HR Giger which was truly the stuff of nightmares. It's a film so consistently full of invention it is hard to believe it was released in 1979, which was the same year that the 1st Star Trek movie and Moonraker were relative hits. It's hard to believe that those movies were made in the same year as Alien, or even the same decade.
Bill Haders slight horror scenes in the last season of Barry were so great and some of the best tv I’ve seen ever imo. You can really tell he cares a lot about what goes into crafting and effective scene with tension.
I wish I'd seen Alien with no knowledge of it. Years before I saw it, my older brother said to me "I just saw this cool movie called Alien where there's this thing that looks like a hand that jumps on a guy's face, and then a monster bursts out of his stomach!". He had a tendency of spoiling all sorts of great movies that I was too young to see, like Robocop, Predator, Terminator.. 😣
Dark city (definitely directors cut, theatrical is way worse), pitch black, existenz and gattaca. Sci fi movies with great twists that hopefully are not yet ruined for you.
@@rubenvanhalteren-3770 Ah, these are all movies from the glory years when I was old enough to watch them unspoiled. I love Gattaca and Dark City. I saw Pitch Black in the theatre.. great flick. Existenz was an odd one. Croenenberg films can be very random!
I think it's hilarious when someone mentioned that this is a low key pro Union movie because if they were part of a union, none of that would of happened. 🤣
Before entering the cinema to see Alien, I stood around the corner and had a "smoke". Went inside and settled into my seat. Spent the rest of the evening scared sh*tless and on the verge of a heart stopping panic attack ! Great movie 😁
Didn't understand it the first time I watched this when I was 12. It was only with my afult eyes that I finally got to enjoy this masterpiece. Ridley Scott is definitely something else.
Although I've listened to a lot of actor commentaries but those are obviously on movies they are in. It's really great to hear about their experience of movies, especially from a young age. I have an older brother who gave me access to great movies from a young age and Aliens was actually my introduction to the franchise.
O'Bannon literally wanted to make a serious version of Dark Star with B movie plot elements but filmed seriously and realistically. Remember Star Wars was a pulp space opera plot but with Kubrick levels of aesthetic. Dark Star without the jokes is the tone that now Alien has. People constantly undervalued O'Bannon. Largely because Hill and Giler did minimal rewrites (though they did make Ash into a robot) and tried claim full writing credits. Plot wise Alien is still Planet of the Vampires meets It the Terror from Beyond Space. Aliens is Them!.
Watched it at a drive-in in Edmonton, Alberta in '79. It was hard to see because the film is quite dark, and they started the movie as the sun was setting. I missed some of the film, because my new girlfriend wouldn't leave me alone...
Lol, bill hader on alien. I also like that movie for being scary. Actually alien 1 & 2 i saw as a kid and i will always appreciate them for connecting me with primal horror of being the helpless prey of a predator parasite that is designed to incoporate us into its life cycle so that we are the insects instead of the dominators of nature. (Even if in real life we could probably kill them all and come up with way worse bio-weapons.)
Hader nails what the writers of Star trek never seemed to get except in 1 episode of voyager. Relatable scares and challenges. Everyone has been in a restaurant, seen someone cough or almost choke at one time. Filling pages of dialogue about power couplings and techno babble does nothing to lend itself to tension or the ability for the audience to relate.
Disagree. The technobabble is a necessary plot device. On ST:D they did a jump and almost got pulled into a gravity well or a planet's atmosphere or something and, sans technobabble, the emergency that was supposed to build tension just resolved by itself without the crew having to actually WORK. The showrunners and writers lost the ball on what Trek was supposed to be, and Voyager as a series certainly didn't help matters. The technobabble bridges the gap between what is and isn't possible. Without it, the action lacks substance.
Bill Hader is on point! This video though? Why are you showing completely random scenes from Alien rather than the scenes Hader is talking about? It doesnt seem like there is any kind of association with what I'm watching and what I'm hearing.
No, no, no... No kung fu. Ripley would give birth to alien, who would turn out to be second coming of Jesus as he was immaculately conceived - being an alien and all, not a human. He would then rapidly grow up to be Michael Fassbender, flute and all, and they would rush back home to Earth where he would spread his genetics of kingdom of god to humanity - by infecting them with a black goo virus which would turn bad people into goo and good people into engineer angels. Enginelles. What? Did you miss all the heavy handed sophomoric undertones of Christianity in Scott's movies?
@@jamesabernethy7896 No... it is simply a horrible movie. ~$1T expedition, to make First Contact, essentially the most important thing humanity has ever done, and you debrief people after they arrive? And those people are like "whatever, so long as I get paid"? Just the _laziest_ writing.
Well, he's not really overrated NOW but he's certainly degenerated in the last 5 decades. Then again, even if you judge him by his first 3 films, he's still a great director.
02:38 I think the subsequent Alien movies departed from the original. I have always tried to understand what is the motivation of the Xenomorph, because it is just an animal. Hader compares it to a python trapped in a confined space. Just wanting to kill everyone is not really credible to me.
Bill blathering on about the finer points of movies that fans have aired repeatedly for years. Fascinating, Bill. Shaddup, Bill, and make a movie already.
Well, I wanna say the obvious thing, which is "you just watched it." But another person below just responded with a polite literal reply. So I'll follow that method. I think, the "Hader take" has become a thing because people discovered after his well built HBO show (is it called Barry? It's on my list of things to get around to) and even Documentary Now that he's more than an SNL cast member who went off and did a Coneheads movie. That he's more in the category of a Tarantino, in terms of his knowledge about films and tv shows. And he can clearly identify the good and bad elements of the last few decades. So, I get it, YOU are not into his insights. I enjoy it, because it's a combo of insights and humor. And I think this applies to lots of people who like to talk about movies and tv. This is the podcast era; people are talking about stuff and other people wanna hear it. In the talk show era, people wanted to see Johnny Carson jump on his desk when a big snake would be brought out by somebody wearing zoo khakis.
@@BobKnight-mm2ze I may have overspoken. I've had these random videos about Bill Hader's takes on all kinds of movies, and I'd only ever dismiss them, because I don't know or was ever very interested in Bill Hader. So disconnected from anything he's done, I had a 25% thought that he was Jon Heder, Napoleon Dynamite guy. Again and again I decline the content, and it keeps coming up. I have the same relationship with Star Wars. I don't know how to convince the algorithm that I hate that franchise. So, why why why do I keep getting offered this guy's take? I watched 30 seconds of the video and quit to leave a snappy comment. I appreciate your thoughtful reply. I might give him a chance.
@ ah crap. I wrote out a whole appreciation post to you taking the time to explain like you did. I posted and UA-cam stalled out on me. Short version, I don’t know who he is and only watched 30 seconds. I kinda thought he might be Napoleon Dynamite guy.. and I engage with wars against the algorithm. I hate Star Wars, and can’t get it to stop recommending stuff about it. Same thing with this Bill I’m not interested in. It’s annoying so I leave snappy comments. I just might give his thoughts some time, after hearing your say about it. So, thanks for taking the time to address my crap.
Alien or Aliens , which one you liked the most , be honest ?
For me it's two different movie genres, both are spectacular. One is survival horror, another is a action horror.
@@FishoD So true. While people will have a preference, I think fans will love both and not have a strong dislike for one of them.. Even though Aliens was my introduction to the franchise, thriller beats action... but only just.
Aliens hasn't held up for me. I've grown too used to Cameron's schtick, and recognize when he's doing some of Those Things that he always does.
As a teenager I thought Aliens was the greatest. Now I think Alien is a masterpiece.
I can't be unbiased. I think in terms of technicality and importance, Alien will win every time. But Aliens is my favorite movie. It's perfect. It makes the watcher feel helpless, and then empowered, which is a fantastic feeling. I watched in so many times I practically wore out the VHS tape of it.
Sigourney Weaver is so amazing, in all her movies she brings an authenticity which really carries the realism of the film. I mean look at Ghostbusters for crying out loud, what a ridiculous premise of a movie, but it works because she brought such authenticity to it to counterbalance the craziness and humour of the SNL Crew, who were amazing too. She is highly underrated IMO.
Alien and Blade Runner made me fall in love with Ridley Scott movies, and he will forever be my favorite film director
Blade Runner is so beautiful!
He got very bad.. With Prometheus and Covenant, Gladiator 2....
It's been a hard couple decades for you, huh?
@@aerthreepwood8021 No, not really. I think I’m a pretty easy film customer. I want to be entertained and I love beautiful visuals, so Mr Scott’s been doing fine by me.
@@conmadben I think I must be one of the few that really liked both Prometheus and Covenant. I got exactly what I wanted: Gorgeous movies in the Ridley Scott “Alien” universe. I felt like I understood exactly what he was doing in each movie. For me they are all self-contained experiences and I love each of them for slightly different reasons.
My father took me to see this on release in 1979, I was 11 then...I've been a fan ever since.
At 11 , must felt scary ?
Cool dad.
Aliens was my introduction to the franchise thanks to my older brother. It would have been recorded off TV so would have had been an edited version. I would have been about that same age, or maybe slightly younger. I actually love all of the first 3 movies. I follow a lot of people who cover movies. While I have no doubt that the chest-burster scene would have been intense. I've only heard recently that there was a pretty intense reaction to Ash's head. Any memories. Because I watched Aliens many many times before finally seeing Alien. The chestburster was drilled into me an an emotionally visceral moment because of Ripley's reaction rather than a purely gruesome one. I also knew about Ash being an Android. Sorry... Artificial Person.
I was 6 the first time I saw Alien, and The Shining, on the same day. At a certain age the atmosphere and psychological scares go right over your head and the movie becomes boring outside of the jumpscare moments. They're only scary when you have the capacity of appreciate them, which says something.
@@craig-o6i
Bruh, his dad was probably cracking road beers
Listening to Bill Hader dork out over movies is my personal nirvana.
Got a chance to see Alien in the theater earlier this year for the anniversary re-release. What a treat!
Yeah me too, saw it with my brother. Awesome.
I was so sure that Dallas (Tom) was not actually dead, and he would make a surprise comeback during a climactic showdown, a la 80s action movie.
That expectation made the later revelation so much more terrifying.
there's a deleted scene where Dallas is actually still clinging to life as an alien cocoon, but asks her to kill him, it's depressing AF
I was in sixth grade when the movie came out, and my father wouldn't let me see it, but my sixth grade teacher was a huge fan and so he read to the class from the novelization and showed us the Heavy Metal graphic novel (which I bought shortly afterward). I didn't actually see the movie itself until some years later, and even though I knew everything that was going to happen, it was still engrossing and terrifying. What a great film.
When this movie was released, it was like nothing that had ever come before, in terms of the way it was shot, and Scott's vision of a gritty industrial future, and the idea that an exploration of the universe was not necessarily in our best interests. It also was ground breaking in the way the sound and dialog is mixed, and came with a production design and the influence of HR Giger which was truly the stuff of nightmares. It's a film so consistently full of invention it is hard to believe it was released in 1979, which was the same year that the 1st Star Trek movie and Moonraker were relative hits. It's hard to believe that those movies were made in the same year as Alien, or even the same decade.
Bill Haders slight horror scenes in the last season of Barry were so great and some of the best tv I’ve seen ever imo. You can really tell he cares a lot about what goes into crafting and effective scene with tension.
Alien looks uneasy even nowadays, that’s a level
Pity that modern Scott movies don’t hit the same
I wish I'd seen Alien with no knowledge of it. Years before I saw it, my older brother said to me "I just saw this cool movie called Alien where there's this thing that looks like a hand that jumps on a guy's face, and then a monster bursts out of his stomach!".
He had a tendency of spoiling all sorts of great movies that I was too young to see, like Robocop, Predator, Terminator.. 😣
You mean like when you find out that Darth Vader is Luke Skywalker’s Dad?
Dark city (definitely directors cut, theatrical is way worse), pitch black, existenz and gattaca. Sci fi movies with great twists that hopefully are not yet ruined for you.
@@rubenvanhalteren-3770 Ah, these are all movies from the glory years when I was old enough to watch them unspoiled. I love Gattaca and Dark City. I saw Pitch Black in the theatre.. great flick.
Existenz was an odd one. Croenenberg films can be very random!
Man, I'd love to hear Bill Hader talk about more movies.
Thanks for posting, excellent watch!
I think it's hilarious when someone mentioned that this is a low key pro Union movie because if they were part of a union, none of that would of happened. 🤣
The alien is the reminder to pay your dues.
Just keep talking bill hader. The world needs the sound of your voice.
Hey! Maybe he could be the next mr rogers?
Before entering the cinema to see Alien, I stood around the corner and had a "smoke". Went inside and settled into my seat.
Spent the rest of the evening scared sh*tless and on the verge of a heart stopping panic attack !
Great movie 😁
Bill Hader obviously gets Alien on a deep level - maybe they should let *him* direct one of them...
I saw it when I was 10, and it has regularly given me nightmares ever since for 40 years... Wouldn't go back and change though 😀
Didn't understand it the first time I watched this when I was 12. It was only with my afult eyes that I finally got to enjoy this masterpiece. Ridley Scott is definitely something else.
Alien is my favorite, still outshines them all, no matter how much they screwup the story line with the other ones.
Although I've listened to a lot of actor commentaries but those are obviously on movies they are in. It's really great to hear about their experience of movies, especially from a young age. I have an older brother who gave me access to great movies from a young age and Aliens was actually my introduction to the franchise.
And Bilbo Baggins turns out to be a robot
Frodo/Bilbo Baggins...
Let's be accurate here 🙂
I heard Mark Kermode say that Ridley Scott watched the Texas Chainsaw Masacre a few times to get a few tips on horror.
Alien is my all-time favorite movie.
Need to watch this movie again. It’s been a loooong time since seeing it last.
O'Bannon literally wanted to make a serious version of Dark Star with B movie plot elements but filmed seriously and realistically. Remember Star Wars was a pulp space opera plot but with Kubrick levels of aesthetic. Dark Star
without the jokes is the tone that now Alien has. People constantly undervalued O'Bannon. Largely because Hill and Giler did minimal rewrites (though they did make Ash into a robot) and tried claim full writing credits. Plot wise Alien is still Planet of the Vampires meets It the Terror from Beyond Space. Aliens is Them!.
My all time favorite horror film!
Fun fact: First time I watched Alien I was completely alone at the movie theatre ... go figure.
Watched it at a drive-in in Edmonton, Alberta in '79. It was hard to see because the film is quite dark, and they started the movie as the sun was setting.
I missed some of the film, because my new girlfriend wouldn't leave me alone...
So are you just ripping off James Whale Bake Sale?
Wow. You took the exact audio from James Whale Bake Sale and edited the video much more poorly.
Lol, bill hader on alien.
I also like that movie for being scary.
Actually alien 1 & 2 i saw as a kid and i will always appreciate them for connecting me with primal horror of being the helpless prey of a predator parasite that is designed to incoporate us into its life cycle so that we are the insects instead of the dominators of nature.
(Even if in real life we could probably kill them all and come up with way worse bio-weapons.)
I can't think of any quote from this movie that I've used in recent times.
Is it true that Ridley Scott didn't tell the other cast members about the chest brushes for the first take?
That seems pretty tough to do.
@@BullyMaguire4ever if he was vague & asked production effects cast to keep it hidden, maybe. Helluva first take
Hader nails what the writers of Star trek never seemed to get except in 1 episode of voyager. Relatable scares and challenges. Everyone has been in a restaurant, seen someone cough or almost choke at one time. Filling pages of dialogue about power couplings and techno babble does nothing to lend itself to tension or the ability for the audience to relate.
Star trek isnt horor though.
Disagree. The technobabble is a necessary plot device. On ST:D they did a jump and almost got pulled into a gravity well or a planet's atmosphere or something and, sans technobabble, the emergency that was supposed to build tension just resolved by itself without the crew having to actually WORK. The showrunners and writers lost the ball on what Trek was supposed to be, and Voyager as a series certainly didn't help matters. The technobabble bridges the gap between what is and isn't possible. Without it, the action lacks substance.
What a dumb, non sensical comment
Bill Hader is on point! This video though? Why are you showing completely random scenes from Alien rather than the scenes Hader is talking about? It doesnt seem like there is any kind of association with what I'm watching and what I'm hearing.
"Phenomenal" Yep
I dread to think what the film alien would look like if it was conceived today, ripley "kung fu" fighting the alien the mind boggles.
No, no, no... No kung fu.
Ripley would give birth to alien, who would turn out to be second coming of Jesus as he was immaculately conceived - being an alien and all, not a human.
He would then rapidly grow up to be Michael Fassbender, flute and all, and they would rush back home to Earth where he would spread his genetics of kingdom of god to humanity - by infecting them with a black goo virus which would turn bad people into goo and good people into engineer angels. Enginelles.
What? Did you miss all the heavy handed sophomoric undertones of Christianity in Scott's movies?
@@d3nza482 So...the 4th Alien then?
i thought this would be an AI clip of bill in ALIEN
Ridley Scott is overrated but Alien is without question a masterpiece.
He did some amazing movies but lately things have got weird. I often say that Prometheus is a decent Sci-fi movie, just a horrible Alien movie.
@@jamesabernethy7896 No... it is simply a horrible movie. ~$1T expedition, to make First Contact, essentially the most important thing humanity has ever done, and you debrief people after they arrive? And those people are like "whatever, so long as I get paid"? Just the _laziest_ writing.
Well, he's not really overrated NOW but he's certainly degenerated in the last 5 decades. Then again, even if you judge him by his first 3 films, he's still a great director.
Why does the creature burst through the hardest part of the human body when the easiest part is inches away below that?
The scene doesn't make sense.
What would an Alien know is the hardest part of the human body? Should "it" have come out of his asshole?? Duh!!
02:38 I think the subsequent Alien movies departed from the original. I have always tried to understand what is the motivation of the Xenomorph, because it is just an animal. Hader compares it to a python trapped in a confined space. Just wanting to kill everyone is not really credible to me.
ALIENS is bad sequel. Good movie but bad sequel.
Bill Hader on why anyone should care what Bill Hader thinks.
Skidly Rott
Bill blathering on about the finer points of movies that fans have aired repeatedly for years. Fascinating, Bill. Shaddup, Bill, and make a movie already.
You felt you had a disease???? What?
Uhh how do I block Hader’s brain dead thoughts on my favourite movies?
. . . By not watching clips of him talking about them?
Funny how perceptions work…
Aliens is better.
You bring the kids to see Aliens.
The adults go see Alien.
@@YumYum820 "Game over man!" ...lol.
I'm guessing you think Terminator 2 is better than the original too.
@@soopahsoopahI prefer T1.
@@frfsolrac77 I was foolish to presume
Who cares what Bill Hader thinks?
I don’t understand why there are so many of these videos. He doesn’t add anything that interesting.
he's a very talented writer/director, it's interesting hearing what directors think about classic movies
Then why in the ever living fuck did you even bother clicking the video? Very weird.
Well, I wanna say the obvious thing, which is "you just watched it." But another person below just responded with a polite literal reply. So I'll follow that method. I think, the "Hader take" has become a thing because people discovered after his well built HBO show (is it called Barry? It's on my list of things to get around to) and even Documentary Now that he's more than an SNL cast member who went off and did a Coneheads movie. That he's more in the category of a Tarantino, in terms of his knowledge about films and tv shows. And he can clearly identify the good and bad elements of the last few decades.
So, I get it, YOU are not into his insights. I enjoy it, because it's a combo of insights and humor. And I think this applies to lots of people who like to talk about movies and tv. This is the podcast era; people are talking about stuff and other people wanna hear it. In the talk show era, people wanted to see Johnny Carson jump on his desk when a big snake would be brought out by somebody wearing zoo khakis.
@@BobKnight-mm2ze I may have overspoken.
I've had these random videos about Bill Hader's takes on all kinds of movies, and I'd only ever dismiss them, because I don't know or was ever very interested in Bill Hader. So disconnected from anything he's done, I had a 25% thought that he was Jon Heder, Napoleon Dynamite guy.
Again and again I decline the content, and it keeps coming up. I have the same relationship with Star Wars. I don't know how to convince the algorithm that I hate that franchise.
So, why why why do I keep getting offered this guy's take?
I watched 30 seconds of the video and quit to leave a snappy comment. I appreciate your thoughtful reply. I might give him a chance.
@ ah crap.
I wrote out a whole appreciation post to you taking the time to explain like you did.
I posted and UA-cam stalled out on me.
Short version, I don’t know who he is and only watched 30 seconds. I kinda thought he might be Napoleon Dynamite guy.. and I engage with wars against the algorithm. I hate Star Wars, and can’t get it to stop recommending stuff about it. Same thing with this Bill I’m not interested in. It’s annoying so I leave snappy comments.
I just might give his thoughts some time, after hearing your say about it. So, thanks for taking the time to address my crap.