Got the 50mm 1.8S and must say it is the sharpest lens I ever had. And for that reasonable price. Now getting the 70-200 2.8 and I think I never need the 85mm.
Yes it is my current favourite lens, though for greater bokeh the 85 is nicer and for that extra reach. Then the 70-200 is probably Nikons best lens. See our other video of it to see!
noone mentions the 85 used in landscape for light telephoto prime , you are not just stuck with portrait at all. I have the viltrox 40mm F2.5 is sharp and LESS viginetting then the Niko version. I think will get a used z85 f1.8 and keep the 40mm which is under $200 and still nice output.
Great comparison Russ & Loz. I can’t remember the last time (if at all) I’ve seen a shooting distance comparison like this. Any photographer starting out should see the difference for headshots, not only in terms of a less cluttered background, but also in how you don’t have to get right in a subject’s face to get a headshot. It also surprises me to see how much this 50mm elongates the face compared to the 85mm, and how the 85mm seems to have more contrast and dimensionality. Also, towards the end you mention the 50mm f1.2, and I suppose for general purpose wedding and events work, the softer backgrounds of the 1.2 may not be worth the extra weight and expense, because many clients will not manage to tell the difference. But for other kinds of commercial and art photography where you want to eliminate backgrounds and more carefully manage the viewer’s gaze, the f1.2 makes an immense difference. I just wish we had an 85mm f1.2 already. I don’t do a lot of people and portrait work, but you’ve reminded me with your comparisons, how important it is to not shoot too close when needing to have people look themselves in the final image.
Thanks, interesting input. We have a video comparing the 50 1.2 on our channel if you are interested. I now use the 50 1.2 and 105 1.4 instead of 50 1.8 and 85 1.8. But with face distortion, lens choice, distance and angle have a massive impact which isn't often discussed you are right.
@@russandloz I did see your 1.2 comparison and that helped solidify my decision to spend the money. So thank you for that. I’ve only had it two days and already have a few keeper shots I could not have produced any other way, so I’m very pleased with the decision. I did look at the 105mm micro but found the manual focusing to be too laggy and imprecise for my taste. Eventually I will pick up a third party z-mount macro with a proper mechanical focus for close work; and for more portrait-length shooting, will try to get by with the 24-120 f4 all-arounder lens for the time being. I’m also very curious to see how the 85mm 1.2 will look when Nikon finally releases it. I shot GFX for a time and still miss the 110mm f2 (87ish mm equivalent) which had truly magical falloff. Some of that feel comes from the 16-bit color, but most of it comes from the optical formula. I hope Nikon can produce a similar kind of magic. Time will tell.
Have 35,50,85 1.8’s.. love the 85 for portraits.. 35 is my all around general use.. but my 50 1.8 is less used cause of the heavy 50 1.2s but a damn great heavy lens..selling my 50 1.8 together with my Z6 so i can get another Z6ii body soon
GREAT VIDEO!! I think I will buy the 40 f2 + the 85 f1.8 the 50 1.8 is better, no doubt, but cant affort 50 and 85, so the 40+85 would be great too.. a great combo and affordable...
During my early film shooting days, the 50mm was called a “Sneaker Zoom”. Want a closer image? Get closer. Now while approaching 84 years of age, for portraits, I use a 105mm, mostly at ISO 4 and 3D focus tracking.. Now for my nap.
If I were shooting portraits of a single person, I would prefer the 85mm f/1.8S. There’s lightly more compression and the Bokeh is more pleasing. For groups of 3 or more, I would choose the 50mm f/1.2S. And for larger groups, I might use the 35mm f/1.8S. I have all three prime lenses. I also have the trinity of f/2.8 zoom lenses for the z-mount.
@@alfredconqueror4422 No, I’m not rich. I’ve just been selling off all my F-mount lenses and slowly replacing them with the Z-mount equivalent. It’s taken me 3 years so far, but I’ll likely stop after I replace my 200-500mm f/5.6 lens. That will be the last one. I’m not sure if it will be the 100-400mm or the 200-600mm that are listed in the lens roadmap.
I'm just an enthusiast and an old timer. At this moment, I only have the 50 f/1.2 S and adapted my AF-S lens trinity + EF 85 f/1.2 L II and other Nikon & Canon lenses. I'm not buying any more Z lens until I decided is the upcoming Z9 worthwhile enough to buy. Even with a Z9, I'll probably wait for the v2 of the lens trinity. Although I wish Nikon will release some new lenses, such as a 24/28-70 f/2 that matches Canon RF one. I'll buy one now if it is available. BTW, for formal portraits, I'm still using the old rule of the thumb, that is, 50 for full length, 85 for half, 105-135 for H&S.
IF one is going to get two lenses, a 35 and a 85 could be a good combination. The problem is, for budged buyers the 35mm is typically more expensive. 4:12 the test shows so plainly the effect of compression: it's shown by the. bricks in the background.
Yes, the difference between f/1.8 and f/1.2 is visibly apparent. And it’s not limited to simply the degree of defocus but also the characteristics of the bokeh, greater sharpness and the reduced chromatic aberration. The question is: Is the difference worth the additional size, weight and expense? For me, the answer is yes in the cases of the 50mm and 85mm focal lengths (Canon R system user).
@@russandloz It is a consideration. However, the increase in size and weight are on par with the differences between Canon’s 50/1.8 and Nikon’s 50/1.8. One adopts a mindset upon committing to a large aperture prime that “the look” is worth the effort of carrying around a lens ~3x larger and heavier than the f/1.8 alternative.
If I would have one for general use it would be the 50mm, if I was just going to shoot portraits I would go to the 85 mm as it gives me more working distance, no when I photographed events I used Pentax and Panasonic s5 I just got a Nikon Z6Ii and Zf for general photography and landscapes.
Thanks for uploading... I have both lenses, they are phenomenal optically, especially at their price points. My 85 seems a tad sharper than my 50, very little in it though. They have different use scenarios, both are brilliant for their intended purposes.
I would definitely get the 85 first… it’s like a cheaper version of a 50 1.2 for getting that same isolation, and I have a 35 1.4 for my aps-c system already… regardless though, 85 covers more genres than 50 - sports, large animals, people, and mountain landscapes. You need to be really close to a mountain to make it look good at 50mm. Also as of 2023, 70-200 is redundant if you save up and get 135 plena and 85 second hand / grey market
Depends on your working distance, 85 would be too long for most of my event work but sure it has a better look. I would rather have the 70-200 instead of the 135 too, I don't really get the fascination with that lens
@@russandloz I love that we have the option to shoot at 1.8 and produce some stellar images but I prefer my images stopped down a bit. It’s just my personal preference.
HI, I own a z5 with the kit lens of 24-70 f4, Planning to get a prime lens to take portraits of my kid and family in the functions and family events, Pls provide a recommendation?
That was great to see,big difference between lenses in bokeh and shooting distance.Both lenses are great.
Got the 50mm 1.8S and must say it is the sharpest lens I ever had. And for that reasonable price. Now getting the 70-200 2.8 and I think I never need the 85mm.
Yes it is my current favourite lens, though for greater bokeh the 85 is nicer and for that extra reach. Then the 70-200 is probably Nikons best lens. See our other video of it to see!
Great Comp! I like how it was performed. Thanks for sharing it.
noone mentions the 85 used in landscape for light telephoto prime , you are not just stuck with portrait at all. I have the viltrox 40mm F2.5 is sharp and LESS viginetting then the Niko version. I think will get a used z85 f1.8 and keep the 40mm which is under $200 and still nice output.
Great comparison Russ & Loz. I can’t remember the last time (if at all) I’ve seen a shooting distance comparison like this. Any photographer starting out should see the difference for headshots, not only in terms of a less cluttered background, but also in how you don’t have to get right in a subject’s face to get a headshot. It also surprises me to see how much this 50mm elongates the face compared to the 85mm, and how the 85mm seems to have more contrast and dimensionality. Also, towards the end you mention the 50mm f1.2, and I suppose for general purpose wedding and events work, the softer backgrounds of the 1.2 may not be worth the extra weight and expense, because many clients will not manage to tell the difference. But for other kinds of commercial and art photography where you want to eliminate backgrounds and more carefully manage the viewer’s gaze, the f1.2 makes an immense difference. I just wish we had an 85mm f1.2 already. I don’t do a lot of people and portrait work, but you’ve reminded me with your comparisons, how important it is to not shoot too close when needing to have people look themselves in the final image.
Thanks, interesting input. We have a video comparing the 50 1.2 on our channel if you are interested. I now use the 50 1.2 and 105 1.4 instead of 50 1.8 and 85 1.8. But with face distortion, lens choice, distance and angle have a massive impact which isn't often discussed you are right.
@@russandloz I did see your 1.2 comparison and that helped solidify my decision to spend the money. So thank you for that. I’ve only had it two days and already have a few keeper shots I could not have produced any other way, so I’m very pleased with the decision. I did look at the 105mm micro but found the manual focusing to be too laggy and imprecise for my taste. Eventually I will pick up a third party z-mount macro with a proper mechanical focus for close work; and for more portrait-length shooting, will try to get by with the 24-120 f4 all-arounder lens for the time being. I’m also very curious to see how the 85mm 1.2 will look when Nikon finally releases it. I shot GFX for a time and still miss the 110mm f2 (87ish mm equivalent) which had truly magical falloff. Some of that feel comes from the 16-bit color, but most of it comes from the optical formula. I hope Nikon can produce a similar kind of magic. Time will tell.
Have 35,50,85 1.8’s.. love the 85 for portraits.. 35 is my all around general use.. but my 50 1.8 is less used cause of the heavy 50 1.2s but a damn great heavy lens..selling my 50 1.8 together with my Z6 so i can get another Z6ii body soon
Great review. Wish all online reviews were so direct and to the point.
Thanks, appreciate the support :-)
Love the Nikon Z lenses. Have the 20,35,50 and 85. Recently got the compact 28mm f2.8. Pairs very well with the 50/1.8S.
GREAT VIDEO!!
I think I will buy the 40 f2 + the 85 f1.8
the 50 1.8 is better, no doubt, but cant affort 50 and 85, so the 40+85 would be great too.. a great combo and affordable...
It might be worth looking on the used quality market to get them cheaper
So nice to see the 2-XL again after all these years!
I'm going for the 85mm and an F mount 50 f1.8G with the converter. Wish I could afford them both, because that 50mm is amazing!
There are always good used deals at retailers to look out for
During my early film shooting days, the 50mm was called a “Sneaker Zoom”. Want a closer image? Get closer.
Now while approaching 84 years of age, for portraits, I use a 105mm, mostly at ISO 4 and 3D focus tracking..
Now for my nap.
The 105 1.4 is a beautiful lens. I still use it. Issue is it has a different colour tone to z glass. A nap sounds good for me too
If I were shooting portraits of a single person, I would prefer the 85mm f/1.8S. There’s lightly more compression and the Bokeh is more pleasing. For groups of 3 or more, I would choose the 50mm f/1.2S. And for larger groups, I might use the 35mm f/1.8S. I have all three prime lenses. I also have the trinity of f/2.8 zoom lenses for the z-mount.
Well you are rich! I only have the 50
@@alfredconqueror4422 No, I’m not rich. I’ve just been selling off all my F-mount lenses and slowly replacing them with the Z-mount equivalent. It’s taken me 3 years so far, but I’ll likely stop after I replace my 200-500mm f/5.6 lens. That will be the last one. I’m not sure if it will be the 100-400mm or the 200-600mm that are listed in the lens roadmap.
I'm just an enthusiast and an old timer. At this moment, I only have the 50 f/1.2 S and adapted my AF-S lens trinity + EF 85 f/1.2 L II and other Nikon & Canon lenses. I'm not buying any more Z lens until I decided is the upcoming Z9 worthwhile enough to buy. Even with a Z9, I'll probably wait for the v2 of the lens trinity.
Although I wish Nikon will release some new lenses, such as a 24/28-70 f/2 that matches Canon RF one. I'll buy one now if it is available.
BTW, for formal portraits, I'm still using the old rule of the thumb, that is, 50 for full length, 85 for half, 105-135 for H&S.
The 50mm 1.2 is too big and pricey. I hope Nikon releases a 50mm 1.4 which would be the sweet spot for me.
I was looking for this comparison everywhere and I got here, Thanks !!
IF one is going to get two lenses, a 35 and a 85 could be a good combination. The problem is, for budged buyers the 35mm is typically more expensive. 4:12 the test shows so plainly the effect of compression: it's shown by the. bricks in the background.
I'd take the 50 and new 105, both better lenses
@@billmoyer3254 85 is better than the 50 my man. The 50 is just in a weird spot between the 35 and 85.
This was another great review and worth watching for people on the fence
Thanks !
Yes, the difference between f/1.8 and f/1.2 is visibly apparent. And it’s not limited to simply the degree of defocus but also the characteristics of the bokeh, greater sharpness and the reduced chromatic aberration. The question is: Is the difference worth the additional size, weight and expense? For me, the answer is yes in the cases of the 50mm and 85mm focal lengths (Canon R system user).
Fair enough, though the Nikon 50 1.2 is much larger and heavier than the Canon version if thats any consideration.
@@russandloz It is a consideration. However, the increase in size and weight are on par with the differences between Canon’s 50/1.8 and Nikon’s 50/1.8. One adopts a mindset upon committing to a large aperture prime that “the look” is worth the effort of carrying around a lens ~3x larger and heavier than the f/1.8 alternative.
They didn’t test 50 1.2 They use 50 1.8!!!
@@HaimGreen In the video, the question was raised about the relative worth of an 50/1.2. I was responding to that.
The Sony 50mm f1.2 is superior to the Canon.
If I would have one for general use it would be the 50mm, if I was just going to shoot portraits I would go to the 85 mm as it gives me more working distance, no when I photographed events I used Pentax and Panasonic s5 I just got a Nikon Z6Ii and Zf for general photography and landscapes.
Good comparison. Background music is louder than voice :(
@@mrdmahesh yes our videos got better with sound as we developed the channel. Sound is very tricky to get right for all devices. 😊
Thanks for uploading... I have both lenses, they are phenomenal optically, especially at their price points. My 85 seems a tad sharper than my 50, very little in it though. They have different use scenarios, both are brilliant for their intended purposes.
Which one is better for street photography
@@martin5368 50mm is best IMO but 85 is OK, a bit long..
@@musiqueetmontagne thankyou
Another question. Idk if you’ve used the 50-250mm. If so how does the 50mm on that lens compare to the 55mm prime lens. Is it worth the upgrade?
The sharpness test makes no sense... you were using a tripod, yet you still shot at 1/250 and 20,000 ISO? How does that make sense?
love both lenses but i notive i use the 85 more often
Great video! I have the 50mm but now I want something with more compression. It would be interesting to see 85 1.8 vs 105 mc 2.8
I would say the 1.8's always have a better look.
The 85 is my fav s lens. You just can't go wrong with it.
I would definitely get the 85 first… it’s like a cheaper version of a 50 1.2 for getting that same isolation, and I have a 35 1.4 for my aps-c system already… regardless though, 85 covers more genres than 50 - sports, large animals, people, and mountain landscapes. You need to be really close to a mountain to make it look good at 50mm. Also as of 2023, 70-200 is redundant if you save up and get 135 plena and 85 second hand / grey market
Depends on your working distance, 85 would be too long for most of my event work but sure it has a better look. I would rather have the 70-200 instead of the 135 too, I don't really get the fascination with that lens
This is video🔥🔥🔥.. really searching this one❤️
A great video! Thank you
Great video as always
thanks Jon
Very interesting presentation. Thank you.
Great video. Love my 85mm. Considering whether i should go with 50mm F1.8 or 40mm F2 for environmental portraits. Any suggestions?
I would say 50 is a better than its price lens, very pro, but depends if you want a wider focal length
I like both and own both but my most used lens is the 35 1.8s. The 35 is lighter then the 50/85 and great all a around.
What kind of photography do you take? :-)
I do family lifestyle photography and with the pandemic mostly shot indoors so the 35 was very handy in smaller spaces.
@@christopherrodriguez7223 Thanks, do you shoot at 1.8 for the look and light gathering?
@@russandloz I love that we have the option to shoot at 1.8 and produce some stellar images but I prefer my images stopped down a bit. It’s just my personal preference.
85 mm lens use for short films..
"Better or Different" No not better but good for what it cost , Different , Yes because of the lengths
Great informative video
Do I get the same results if I use those lenss
With Nikon zfc for video??
Zfc is a cropped sensor so will be 75mm and 100mm I believe
@@russandloz Thanks for your reply 👍
I mean the blurry background
Love u tooo! Daffodil park?
No not Daffodil park! 😂
HI, I own a z5 with the kit lens of 24-70 f4, Planning to get a prime lens to take portraits of my kid and family in the functions and family events, Pls provide a recommendation?
I would recommend the 50 1.8z for versatility and low light like the video suggests. 🙂
I have z5 and confused i should go for 85mm or 50mm
z6ii user i have old lens user this lens ftz adopter .. please .. answer me sir ?
hi sir
Why no mention of the camera's sensor size?
It’s full frame
@@lozzom will it work natively on my Zfc? Thanks.
@@psysword yes you can mount any of the Z lenses on the Zfc
The focal lenghth is diffrent between apsc and full frame.
I am like that....
85 is sharper in my eyes
They are both very very sharp. Like most lenses now. It's good we can pick lenses based on other things
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