Should the Superglide Keyboard be Banned?

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  • Should the Superglide Keyboard be Banned?
    Ottr explains the Wooting 60HE and how it works, and debates whether it should be a bannable thing to use, or whether its simply the future of keyboards.
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  • @ottr
    @ottr  Рік тому +2

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  • @Arthfayle
    @Arthfayle Рік тому +258

    Bro, the amount of people comparing this to things like chronus and strikepacks are insane to me. One removes your recoil entirely and one makes your inputs .002 seconds faster.

    • @1Handzz
      @1Handzz Рік тому +6

      yeah i agree

    • @sspiegel1
      @sspiegel1 Рік тому +23

      Just shows the amount of people cheating with chronus and strikepacks.

    • @brockvanzwol2172
      @brockvanzwol2172 Рік тому +1

      Does a zen make ur inputs faster ?

    • @wavierdig
      @wavierdig Рік тому +15

      Its like calling an elite series controller cheating
      It just feels better
      Probably
      Im not sure but you get my point

    • @big_z1174
      @big_z1174 Рік тому +2

      I swear to god soon they will start to complain about people with good PCs, they only have 30fps so if someone has 60 it is an advantage right??? Or what about screen mhz? This keyboard isn't any different...

  • @vigo0o0
    @vigo0o0 Рік тому +133

    in my opinion there is no problem with that keyboard because i think that the big gaming companies will build keyboards with these features in the future too
    and the technology will evolve anyway to some point where this is the standart for every keyboard.

    • @bladeoftheruinedking5504
      @bladeoftheruinedking5504 Рік тому

      Yeah something like this is progression on technology and something that shouldn't be held back because soon most keyboards will have this

    • @balazsdusek
      @balazsdusek Рік тому

      @@user-rl6wr2ny7frazer is already copying this with their "huntsman kini analog" amd it is not as good but also cheaper which is a good direction for tech like this to go

    • @rxre6969
      @rxre6969 Рік тому

      ​@@cjayscribNot really comparable. The keyboard changes the actuation while a strike pack just gives better aim straight up.

  • @nicholasyork2396
    @nicholasyork2396 Рік тому +96

    I have one and the keyboard is amazing. I feel like they are just raising the standards for keyboards. As a smaller company that is taking over the scene they are super cool.

    • @Audysseus
      @Audysseus Рік тому +1

      ​@@Divinity_vA Also analog switches are far from new...

    • @Positivity1
      @Positivity1 Рік тому

      Bro needs a keyboard to get good😂😂

    • @ninja2MC
      @ninja2MC Рік тому

      how much does it cost

    • @FearWarboar4135
      @FearWarboar4135 Рік тому +1

      @@ninja2MC $180 if I remember correctly. I have one it is amazing

    • @voidiac5832
      @voidiac5832 Рік тому

      im working on getting myself one and im so excited

  • @Wooting
    @Wooting Рік тому +76

    Guess I have nothing more to comment on this then? :D
    Thanks for covering the keyboard, and we really think the additional set of features analog keyboards bring to the market will be the new standard.
    SoonTM

    • @christopherpitts3941
      @christopherpitts3941 Рік тому

      any tkl keyboards coming from wooting soon?

    • @vigo0o0
      @vigo0o0 Рік тому

      I thought I’d get the 60he for my 16th birthday today but I just didn’t :(

    • @pewpewbang9009
      @pewpewbang9009 Рік тому

      Will you guys have Swiss French format?

    • @jjkillerx
      @jjkillerx Рік тому

      65% version please and thank you

  • @qwertyg3666
    @qwertyg3666 Рік тому +26

    The wooting eliminates almost every variable except raw input skill. It makes excellent gamers better whilst providing no benefit to most people because they lack the skill to utilise that level of precision. A strike pack on the other hand actively removes a skill from being needed. How anyone can argue they are equitable I really don't understand.

    • @Nateawa
      @Nateawa Рік тому +8

      controller players don't know the difference between skill and seeing the winning screen

    • @TheRealMonstaa
      @TheRealMonstaa Рік тому +1

      A great take on things, honestly!

  • @Agattine
    @Agattine Рік тому +28

    I think a better comparison would be a SCUF/Battle Beaver for controller players.

    • @blxckleppxrd
      @blxckleppxrd Рік тому

      nahh, scuff just moves buttons so you can do things without having to stop moving and or looking, basically makes the playing field closer to a standard keyboard

    • @Agattine
      @Agattine Рік тому +6

      @@blxckleppxrd the triggers are adjustable to shoot faster than standard controllers. SCUF themselves calls it “mouse click response”.

    • @blxckleppxrd
      @blxckleppxrd Рік тому

      @@Agattine so again.... leveling the playing field... imagine if your keyboard and mouse had the ROM of a trigger on a controller.... so yea... mouseclick

    • @millenwagon
      @millenwagon Рік тому

      @@Agattine The Dualsense edge and the Xbox elite controller also have hair triggers, they aren’t game changers. I have them both as well as the original pads, it’s the paddles that are the advantage, the triggers aren’t. And the paddles/rear buttons take some time to master and are more about adding comfort and convenience so you don’t have to play claw

  • @EYNAHL
    @EYNAHL Рік тому +27

    I bought the Wooting HE2 about 2 months ago and while I went from a 20% super glide accuracy to around 80%, wouldn't you know it move movement doesn't win all your fights. Comparing it to a strike pack is a large stretch IMO.

    • @momentykk
      @momentykk Рік тому

      i use normal gaming keyboard and i hit 80% of my superglides imo i dont think it changes much

  • @ChizAndStuff
    @ChizAndStuff Рік тому +7

    I have a Wooting and wouldn’t consider it cheating in the slightest. I’d say the Wooting is the MnK version of an Elite Series 2 or duel sense edge controller. All of them have their own software where you can fine tune nearly everything about it and change how the game feels.
    In a game that’s majority controller nowadays I feel like it’s fair play to those who are sticking with MnK to use this keyboard

  • @rBlackyy
    @rBlackyy Рік тому +6

    I got the Wooting 60HE and its the best Keyboard i tried in over 15 years of playing MnK!

    • @Javggoat
      @Javggoat 6 місяців тому

      Wat mouse u use

  • @XDGoose41
    @XDGoose41 Рік тому +4

    if you want a really in depth look at this keyboard, another creator know as optimum tech has a really well done video on the wooting, and also explains its advantages in apex as well. well worth the watch to learn more about the keyboard.

  • @Icesweats
    @Icesweats Рік тому +5

    no because you can have the same controls on a optical keyboard with hot swap switches. all you need to do is trim the actuation stem for your crouch key and boom you did the same thing software does just takes some trial and error in getting the right lengths. all on a board under $100

  • @BigBrainAFK
    @BigBrainAFK Рік тому +2

    just a slight correction: The feature is called Rapid Trigger. no fire present. Oh also side-side note: DKS isnt macros. It activates a different key depending on the depth of your key press and depending on if the key moves up or down.

  • @facelessgreen8997
    @facelessgreen8997 Рік тому +4

    So let me get this straight. Wooting 60HE is just a mech keyboard that allows you to set the activation depth? That's as much of an advantage as having a standard mechanical keyboard against someone who uses membrane (which is barely at all). Comparing that to CroneUs or that Shite Pack users is insane.

  • @goaway6226
    @goaway6226 Рік тому +2

    I would look at it the same was as controller configure their deadzone and other settings. When does the input happend and when does it end. Optimized to your playstyle and liking. I dont think you can go wrong with 1-1 input rule

  • @napsy27
    @napsy27 Рік тому +3

    I'm not the best movement player, not by a longshot (i fail wallbounces here and there and i suck with ziplines), but its crazy how consistent i got at supergliding with the wooting (i got the wooting two he, the full sized one). According to the web superglide trainer, I used to have about 14% chance of supergliding but now I have a 84% chance (if locked on 120fps). In the real game though, I play on uncapped fps and I still hit most of my superglides. And not only that, my tap strafes are much more precise, and I sometimes accidentally do something close to a neo strafe? but not really since i lose momentum even with stim. but i could strafe in a square somewhat. Every movement just feels clean and responsive and its just amazing. By far one of the best upgrades to my peripherals other than my monitor

  • @unboundjackal
    @unboundjackal Рік тому +3

    I have around a 60-70% success right now using my keyboard with space and C at about 240FPS

  • @tonitom_re
    @tonitom_re Рік тому +2

    If indeed the anticheat of Anybrain should be introduced, I am curious how it deals with such software customized inputs.

  • @nzkuro
    @nzkuro Рік тому +2

    how can anybody even say that the wooting is cheating, while rollers on pc exist....

  • @ethenjordan2010
    @ethenjordan2010 Рік тому +2

    If they had a 65 or TKL I’d buy it. But it’s missing the F keys which I use and I hate not having arrows ( yes I know you can do the second function key, big no)

  • @arctictropic1147
    @arctictropic1147 Рік тому +2

    I would say this is more in relation to an overclocked controller than a strike pack, lowering the latency of your movement. It’s not cheating, just p2w.
    Either way, gaming companies should start following the analog switches trend instead of people trying to label it as cheating so everyone sticks to the slower generic gaming keyboards.

  • @chlebaQQ
    @chlebaQQ Рік тому +2

    Razer huntsman v2 has analog swtiches also

  • @littlebit670
    @littlebit670 Рік тому +3

    Yeah I wouldn't consider a faster keyboard to be cheating because you are still making inputs. It's just a faster keyboard, not a robot helping you with the game (like the Zen/StrikePack or macros)

  • @monkeyclub2100
    @monkeyclub2100 Рік тому +2

    The fact that someone could say a different kind of key switch is the same as a strike pack is so brain dead. Oh no, someone is a couple milliseconds faster than me!!! They’re cheating!!!! Good lord.
    It’s the same as saying a better monitor, gpu, or internet connection is cheating. The more important thing to worry about is your own skill. Cringe tbh.

  • @MintSpaghetti
    @MintSpaghetti Рік тому +1

    This seems like one of the things that is controversial when it first shows up but becomes stacked down the line and I think we just need to wait it out

  • @el_floppo9159
    @el_floppo9159 Рік тому +2

    Cheating would be something altering the intended function of the game; like perceived recoil being lowered by a strike pack or similar. Super glides can be hit on any input device, some being easier than others. My pov is that an analog keyboard is a different input device, and more comparable to a controller, than a keyboard with how analog inputs are registered. This keyboard doesnt give you aim assist though, 0/10 (ive been wanting to pick one up for a while now, cant wait until i get paid B] )

  • @skawattle1213
    @skawattle1213 Рік тому +2

    Unless the wooting can give you Aim Assist then its not even close to cheating

  • @wi1dcard192
    @wi1dcard192 Рік тому

    I find it strange that people are complaining about the variable actuation distance. (For example on space vs control). On any modern hot swappable keyboard you can just purchase a single mechanical switch that has a higher actuation distance and accomplish the exact same thing, it’s just easier on a wooting. The rapid fire again can be accomplished by high actuation point switches, albeit less fluid.
    I don’t think the wooting deserves to be called a cheating device just because it makes these customizations more accessible. It’s just a very good peripheral.

  • @hu_fyk
    @hu_fyk Рік тому

    Hey I didn't see anyone mention this but normal mechanical keyboard doesn't register key when bottom out but there will be an actuation point or travel distance where the keystroke regis.
    About rapid trigger you can (theoretically) achieve almost same speed with normal keyboard if you practice to press and release.
    Example: if your switch bottom out at 4 mm, actuation point is at 2.5mm travel distance and reset point is 2.4 you don't need to bottom it out you just try need to press to 2.5mm and release to 2.4 and press again( but Rapid trigger just easier)
    All of these are from osu! Player who enjoy apex legends view.
    Rapid trigger just make spamming easier but doesn't make your finger control any better.

    • @hu_fyk
      @hu_fyk Рік тому

      In the end keyboard are just making you hit thing easier(in both osu! And apex community) but it doesn't make you better . if you suck and buy this keyboard. You are still being suck just with analog keyboard.

  • @booker4984
    @booker4984 Рік тому +1

    I guess it’s cheating, but it’s nothing you can’t replicate by going into CFG files.
    I can do whatever movement tech I want. And it’s not cheating it’s not considered bannable

  • @xenomxrph
    @xenomxrph Рік тому +2

    Does the keyboard make superglides etc easier, sure... Comparing it to a strikepack/cronus is just dumb and it should rather be compared to a battlebeaver or something like that with paddles on the back making it easier to press certain buttons.
    Does tachyon mode help? While yes, it loweres the input latency, but you forgot to consider the fact that most if not all humans wont notice the difference between 2ms and 1ms. Hitting your peak wasnt limited to your keyboards latency. Adjustable actuation points are not a Wooting exclusive, plenty of gaming keyboards have adjustable actuation points so adding that to one of the reasons a wooting should be banned is just dumb. Its a nice feature, but nothing special. RapidFire might be the most "OP" feature in my eyes, but the clip comparing rapidfire vs a standard keyboard is incredibly misinformative and could be considered false advertisement LMAO. Nobody is telling you to BOTTOM OUT your standard keyboard. Get to know your keyboard, learn the actuation point, hover just above it and with small micro adjustments and boom, you effectively made your own rapidfire technology..
    To end this little rant, the first pc was made 10 years before any membrane keyboard.. Razer released the blackwidow in 2010, 13 years ago! No, mechanical keyboards were not rare or expensive, it was 80 bucks on release. You only find budget keyboards below that price TODAY! I can pull multiple mechanical keyboards from before you were even born out of the closet man. Started with called Inhuman an impression farmer and proceeds to spend over 8 minutes basically spreading misinformation.. jfc do better Ottr

  • @Wreck0nize1232
    @Wreck0nize1232 Рік тому +1

    It’s legit just a really good keyboard ppl should cope 🤣 ppl only complain when they can’t afford it or ain’t good with it

  • @liv6646
    @liv6646 Рік тому +2

    If I can hit a superglide 80-90% of the time on a laptop keyboard, then everyone can.

    • @liv6646
      @liv6646 Рік тому +1

      @@Divinity_vA funny you mention controller, tried it today using my phone as a gamepad. Like it is 0.4 on PC but without touching my right stick and just strafing while holding the shoot btn, I could one clip dummies. It just locks on, I didn't know it was this powerful tbh

    • @liv6646
      @liv6646 Рік тому +1

      No wonder pros and some top preds play on controller. This plus scripts or configs is just straight up cheating imo.

    • @liv6646
      @liv6646 Рік тому

      @@Divinity_vAHey, no need to get this offensive. They both have their pros and cons but as a FPS game, aiming and shooting are the main part of it. Controllers definitely have an advantage at that. But they have to cater to the average joe, who just wants to casually game and win without having to put much effort.
      I mostly just want the option to separate games on input, MNK and controllers ( both pc, console). Also ban/limit usage of zen/movement scripts/steam input configs. It would definitely improve experience for both experienced players and new players.

    • @Pancakes70
      @Pancakes70 Рік тому

      ​@@liv6646that's if you're on pc console Na it's bad.

  • @BeardedMotawa
    @BeardedMotawa Рік тому

    i have steelseries apex pro , does the same thing btw. difference is actuation point in Steelseries is 0.2 and wooting is 0.1. i think its negligible and you can customize both the same.

  • @vigo0o0
    @vigo0o0 Рік тому +1

    im hopefully geting this at my birthday in 3 days xD

  • @keenannor2917
    @keenannor2917 Рік тому +2

    PS11 gonna be hype 🔥🔥💯

  • @Mysterious_RSA
    @Mysterious_RSA Рік тому

    How i understand it, is the tachyon mode is just a fast response time, but corsair offers keyboards with 8000hz polling. Aka: 0.125ms response time
    As i understand, it's basically the same as tachyon mode, please correct me if I'm wrong.
    The main difference here is just the analog switches

  • @OliWo1i
    @OliWo1i Рік тому

    this is the first helpful video on the wooting ive seen everything else says the same thing this actually confirmed i want it

  • @jomio4682
    @jomio4682 5 місяців тому

    As long as macros are left out of the picture making inputs more like real time isn’t anything near cheating, plus controller and Mnk shouldn’t be compared anyways because of the difference of those

  • @ADDISON396
    @ADDISON396 Рік тому

    I'm pretty sure in your country bro, if they sent you the item free, then by advertising standards, it IS an ad. (In the UK its even worse with ASA being unclear on if a REVIEW is an ad or not, ) but if you're sent the item, in your country, its defo counted as sponsored and I'm pretty sure counts as an "ad" too, so you may want to adjust/mute the audio for the part where you explicitly say the opposite.

  • @jasonanees26
    @jasonanees26 6 місяців тому

    As someone who has a 90% consistensy with super gliding on console it's not that hard if you get the timing right so don't cheat pls go in the firing range and train

  • @FROGxDELIVER
    @FROGxDELIVER Рік тому

    I don't think mechanical over membrane is an actual advantage if you're used to membrane's feel. Unless it has objectively slower response time, it's all about preference. Though mechanical rightfully are more popular because people generally prefer that

  • @Bneb
    @Bneb Рік тому

    Steel series apex pro has the ability to change the actuation because it’s magnetic hybrid keys so you could replicate this to do superglides

  • @shondavis54
    @shondavis54 Рік тому +5

    I as well have a wooting 60he and I have to say NO this is not cheating kinda, yes This keyboard has alot of Functions to make your gameplays a bit better. The 1mm Activation points, rapid trigger, analog inputs, tachyon mode for faster inputs this board is a beast for Fps lovers and mmorpg or just any games all around, but there is one other keyboard that does the same thing as the wooting and that is the SteelSeries apex pro or pro mini. it doesnt have all the stuff wooting has other then the 2mm Activation points. you still need to have some type of knowledge to do any tricks in Apex, even with the wooting in hand for the first day. when i first got my keyboard I still wasnt proforming the superglides, wall jumps till after two weeks of just playing with the wooting. The keyboard is hit or miss for some IMO, but i can see why this is board is being called out. It just too damn fast the only way other boards can come close to a wooting is to either get keycaps rings to push the activation point from 5mm to a 3mm even to 2mm or 1mm that if you want to experiment, or overall mod your keyboards by opening it up and lube each key swich, and tape mod that sucker for a kinda wooting 60he experience but for other boards to have that tachyon mode feeling idk lag switch or something i have no clue. Ottr you make me a better apex player every day with you're videos thanks man, keep up the great work.

    • @ilikehiking
      @ilikehiking Рік тому +1

      60% is not gonna be great in an MMO unfortunately

    • @shondavis54
      @shondavis54 Рік тому

      @@ilikehiking i hope you know we are talking about the wooting 60he witch is a 60%, but can be customized be any button or combination of inputs a regular 60% can't do at all, unless you use macros so yes your only 50% correct, but your referring to boards that are not the 60he. so yes this 60% keyboard itself can play any mmorpg very easily and better then a regular 60%.

    • @shondavis54
      @shondavis54 Рік тому

      @@ilikehiking trust me I tested this sucker out on 100+ games in every category it really works better then i can tell you.

    • @ilikehiking
      @ilikehiking Рік тому

      @@shondavis54 You can reprogram pretty much every 60% keyboard on the market with modifiers and such. It's just simply too much of a pain in the ass in an MMO as they have a lot of keybinds. Having extra keys available even for actions that aren't important in combat such as mounting or whatever is just too valuable, and I just cannot be bothered to reprogram and learn the modifiers for so many actions just because this company decided to adapt a stupid minimalist layout. If I only played shooters like Apex I would instantly buy this, but unfortunately I play more games.
      I'm not the only one who thinks 60% sucks, every video about this keyboard has people saying this. As much as I want this keyboard from a technological standpoint, I know that they will eventually release a TKL or 75% keyboard so I'll just wait it out. Patience is a virtue.

    • @shondavis54
      @shondavis54 Рік тому +1

      @@ilikehiking Not really majority of 60% boards don't have a program to change anything like any board you get on amazon if it not a razor Logitech, corsair or ASUS your assed out, everything else sounds more like a skill issue and if you have big hands this wont work for you since alot of ppl in the world have the time and the brain power to make key profiles for what ever you are doing I have profiles for typing, fps, driving sims and mmorpgs and can remember all my key presses so if this is a problem for you it may not be a problem for many others and they did have a TKL board but was discontinued it may come back in a year or two. This is a dope conversation. (meaning good)

  • @hockeyplayer39
    @hockeyplayer39 Рік тому

    Steelseries makes a keyboard with per key actuation as well

  • @dhrida5518
    @dhrida5518 Рік тому +1

    I have a membrane keyboard I am pleased with it but it's a one hand keyboard with like 36 keys or whatever having a small space bar is great no clicks missed this one might do the difference off drop when there is many teams contesting your landing spot to consider this to the equivalent of a strike pack is just copium to having aim assist it might help get the right timing but if you are pressing keys at the wrong time no keyboard can bless you lol

  • @XWeedhunterX
    @XWeedhunterX Рік тому

    I remember switching from logitech g510 membrane keyboard to SteelSeries Apex 7 RED mechanical and even writing an essay on word was like night and day. Not to mention inputs while gaming.

  • @imthedan2
    @imthedan2 Рік тому +1

    You're talking to the MNK players of Apex Legends. They never understand or have an issue with the advantages they have. All they are trained to say is "AiM AsSiSt!"

    • @piggybackedfromapizzadough5727
      @piggybackedfromapizzadough5727 Рік тому

      Mnk has a singular advantage and that’s really long range. Controller is just op. Quit coping.

    • @imthedan2
      @imthedan2 Рік тому +1

      @@piggybackedfromapizzadough5727 lol... MNK has EVERY advantage outside of close range fights. Y'all just lying now to protect your fragile ego.

    • @piggybackedfromapizzadough5727
      @piggybackedfromapizzadough5727 Рік тому

      @@imthedan2 no… controller can do everything mnk can do but with legal aimbot. Why would the majority of the pro scene be controller if it wasn’t better?

    • @imthedan2
      @imthedan2 Рік тому

      @@piggybackedfromapizzadough5727 First off, the last ALGS had a split of 50/50 MNK and controller players in the top 10 for kills. There were 5 MNK and 5 controller players. So, pros are fine on MNK.
      and no, you can't do everything on controller that you can on MNK lol... what a dumb ass statement. the fact you'd say something so dumb makes me feel like you're trolling or stupid - and it ain't worth my time for either.

  • @durikke2
    @durikke2 Рік тому

    Getting a low ping does have its drawbacks... no lag compensation at all

  • @tyandag6313
    @tyandag6313 Рік тому

    this is the 2nd time hearing about the wooting keyboard being considered as "cheater keyboard" from a different community

  • @JDMKEV
    @JDMKEV Рік тому +1

    i always wondered how people looted so fast like timmy when off drop since im a console player but now i know! good vid ottr, also agree with your take...not cheating defs a bit pay to win but there will always be other people with better stuff than you especially on the PC side of things

  • @chessfan10
    @chessfan10 Рік тому

    I want one so my movement can be at 100% while my aim stays at 50%.

  • @yahootube90
    @yahootube90 Рік тому

    If the complaint that better peripherals/hardware is cheating, then I think people better play on console instead of PC. Of course, some people have paddles on their controllers and strike packs, and better resolution TVs, etc., so the problem won't completely go away there, but it is perhaps reduced.

  • @yungsteazy
    @yungsteazy Рік тому +1

    If you guys ever want to make content calling things cheating that are obviously not cheating is a great way to farm viewers I love how gullible the internet is now a days say something wrong and on purpose and the internet will correct you love it

  • @bullshizzmccoy4034
    @bullshizzmccoy4034 Рік тому

    "Obviously, a $5k computer wont make you better at aiming." The irony...

  • @TheRealMonstaa
    @TheRealMonstaa Рік тому

    Agreed and with great reasoning!

  • @awsomepossum58
    @awsomepossum58 Рік тому

    Wooting isn’t cheating, it doesn’t make you more skillful. Just quickens your input. You’re not going to hit more shots or have better game sense. This keyboard is popular among the OSU community and now it’s getting into the apex scene, I recommend you apex players stay with what you have right now and save the 200 bucks because it’s not going to make you better.

  • @Richmo_
    @Richmo_ 2 місяці тому

    Is playing with a controller with paddles considered cheating? It gives you more options while keeping your thumbs on the sticks. It's just innovative technology. It's not doing anything for the player except adjusting the speed of the input that they STILL HAVE TO PRESS. Strikepacks/Chronus literally create inputs for you to remove recoil. That's so far away from what the Wooting is that it's a laughable comparison. It's like saying someone buying a bigger monitor is like buying wallhacks because they can see more.

  • @TailicaiCorporation
    @TailicaiCorporation Рік тому

    Yea I’m a controller player (been on console most of my life and so MnK isn’t where I’m at yet… trying to get my gaming PC soon) and ain’t no way that’s the same thing as the strike pack or chronos thing… turbo buttons and changing assignments to perform multiple actions is just simply cheating. Now I have a similar feeling about mouse wheel for multiple jump inputs for tap strafing but yet ppl complaining that controller players shouldn’t be able to link their movement stick to about the same thing, but that’s a different topic all together even though I just play on normal controller config.
    Btw I’ve just started trying to incorporate super glides with my controller on my dying laptop (it fluctuates between 80 fps to 5fps depending on wth is going on) and I’ve been able to do it more than a handful of times and I can’t even wall jump on a consistent basis. So it ain’t THAT hard to learn.

  • @zaxgaming8686
    @zaxgaming8686 Рік тому +1

    as a wooting 60he keyboard user, don't ban it or i'll stop spending money on the game. 👏👏WOOTING 60HE IS NOT CHEATING 👏👏sure its a "competitive advantage" but it would never beat a cfg user / cfg controller user. If anything should be removed it would be cfg controller users, they get aim assist and movement. im not being prejudice against controller players in general, but the cfg files allow with using a controller.

  • @NolanBollan
    @NolanBollan Рік тому

    So it’s adding/remove dead zones to a keyboard.

  • @supaweeb4076
    @supaweeb4076 Рік тому

    Nah, it just makes movement easier to do(if you have no knowledge then its kinda useless), doesnt make u have 0 recoil and aim for you.

  • @Juanz_ttv
    @Juanz_ttv Рік тому +1

    im not gonna watch the video im just gonna say no it shouldn't be, and i dont even have one. Controller has tons of ad ons that never get talked about. ban those

  • @theglavenglossproject2693
    @theglavenglossproject2693 Рік тому

    2 questions, did you get banned and how expensive is this thing?

  • @swifted
    @swifted Рік тому

    Where’s the updated vid for the setup?

  • @YOUTUBE_CHRIS
    @YOUTUBE_CHRIS Рік тому

    I don't care to use a macro, but consistent input times is what interests me

  • @Zeppe1in
    @Zeppe1in Рік тому

    I've never tried it, but everyone says it's easy to press. I'm using a QK75 keyboard and it's pretty easy to hit the Supergilde.

  • @Flo_GMR
    @Flo_GMR Рік тому

    The New Apex pro TKL with 0,2mm is also very good

  • @simonemereu1581
    @simonemereu1581 Рік тому

    me personally supergliding is really ez just put V as secondary crouch and then you can superglide easier try it

  • @darkySp
    @darkySp 10 місяців тому

    Wooting offer not a crutch or some feature like macros that automates or manipulates inputs, it's a legitimate innovation on keyboard switches.
    How the hell do you compare a technological innovation that improves responsiveness to something that gives you an advantage through automation ?
    If we go by this logic, let's call G-Sync/FreeSync and Nvidia Reflex to be cheating, because they give you consistency and lower latency than compared without them!
    I don't see a single solid point that can be made against Wooting's Lekker switches to justify it as "cheating", what the hell LOL

  • @JocelynTaylor-sl5pk
    @JocelynTaylor-sl5pk Рік тому

    Love your videos dude keep it up

  • @supreme84x
    @supreme84x Рік тому

    If the Wooting keyboard should be banned, then all keyboards except membrane should be banned. We should bam all controllers except a single type. No extra buttons. Everyone gets the exact same ps or Xbox controller and nothing more.

  • @peartkishi
    @peartkishi Рік тому

    So you mean to tell me the reason why whenever Im in a gun and flustering like an idiot, trying to do things quickly, pressing the same button multiple times and not getting my desired result is due to my keyboard shitty input lag???????? Where tf do I buy?

  • @mr.love_doctor1272
    @mr.love_doctor1272 Рік тому +1

    You can tell bro MNK bias💀as I said in the aim assist video aim assist barely works 85% of the time but MNK get their “advantages” the entire game, MNK better movement,more control over aim, don’t have to deal with aim assist when it does happen and a few other things. Aim assist is the only thing good about controller . Bad team mates bc every has a console, everyone has good aim, less control over movement, aim assist barely works and other things.

    • @amix8857
      @amix8857 Рік тому +1

      That's bot true. A huge advantage of controller is its ease of use. You can play way longer and way more comfortably on a controller. Try playing 8hrs on each and tell me mnk doesn't absolutely break you. This is another reason most kill grinders are on controller.

  • @o3nisoaso3
    @o3nisoaso3 Рік тому

    Wishing everyone on PC was on a level playing field is putting everyone back onto console but console days like PS3

  • @XxHistorikxX
    @XxHistorikxX Рік тому

    It's not cheating if it's just really good hardware. As soon as there's software with macros and scripts, that's the problem.

  • @CoffeeFresh_
    @CoffeeFresh_ Рік тому

    My problem with the keyboard shown, its not a ten keyless.

  • @grade_c
    @grade_c Рік тому

    I have a pretty bad PC, and I didnt really know how bad it was until I went o my friend's house and played on his. I am only ever able to get a couple kills on mine (it runs at like 25 fps) but on his I dropped like kills. Thats when I realized I dont actually suck, its just my setup 😂😂

  • @Madcaper
    @Madcaper Рік тому

    Just got mine in the mail today can’t wait to try it out on some apex

  • @ItsDdvdd
    @ItsDdvdd Рік тому +3

    I got the SteelSeries apex pro, it has dual actuation as well as adjustable actuation. So can hit space bar, and actuate both jump and then crouch, in that order. Jump actuation is halfway, crouch is at the bottom. Super glide accuracy is probably 90%+.
    The timing is all me though, I dont consider it cheating because of that. My friend who doesn't play mnk tried and it took him ~15 tries to hit his first successful glide. It makes it WAY easier to be consistent, but its still a skill

    • @ItsDdvdd
      @ItsDdvdd Рік тому

      Added benefit is that you can free up the v or c keybind. I've got crouch bound to "p"

    • @unkkit151
      @unkkit151 Рік тому

      I set the jump actuation halfway and crouch at the bottom and it doesn't work well for me. What FPS do you play at?

    • @ItsDdvdd
      @ItsDdvdd Рік тому +2

      @@unkkit151 okay I just checked and I was indeed wrong. Jump actuation is at the very top at 0.2mm, and crouch is at the very bottom at 3.8mm. Good luck, happy supergliding!
      I play at 140fps

  • @TheRadioSquare
    @TheRadioSquare Рік тому

    This very much sounds like an ad, or you not doing your research before reviewing a keyboard. Modern keyboard already have extremely fast response, Tachyon mode is a gimmick that supposedly lowers it to 1ms or below, instead of 2 or maybe even 3ms normally. For reference, 3ms is 0.003 seconds... so yeah, good luck trying to notice the effect of this super amazing gamer mode. Totally not a marketing gimmick!
    Simultaneous activation point also sounds like a massive skill issue, I can only assume you can't actually achieve any special degree of consistency of doing superglides on this keyboard, which is why you had to use footage from someone else.
    Normal looting vs wooting is quite literally some TV infomercial thing, where they add a grey filter and have someone fail to cut a tomato. You didn't even get your facts straight. Many of the current keyboards don't require you to bottom out a switch, in fact, many of the "gamer" keyboards commonly have linear switches with low activation force and distance. You're only limited by your own dexterity with any modern keyboard.
    Again I have no idea why you made this video unless it's either
    1) Some ad loophole that you don't have to disclose
    2) You're being a content fiend and wanted to make a clickbait video while cluelessly advertising a gimmicky keyboard.

  • @Obye.
    @Obye. Рік тому

    As a console player I can hit super glides left and right I’ve gotten the timing down

  • @VanNowe
    @VanNowe Рік тому

    "uuuugh your buttons button faster then my buttons. You're cheating!!"
    unless it is a 3rd party program that snaps onto people heads from anywhere, or gives god mode, unlimited ammo, no recoil, walls things like that its not cheating.. just cause someone has better gear (higher frames, more ram, better cpu, liquid cooled what ever) doesnt mean its cheating. it just means they did there research to find exactly what they want for there dollar.

  • @emilhappy5696
    @emilhappy5696 Рік тому

    No it shouldent. Then you might as well start banning hardware cause we all need the same FPS and Ping.
    Also i don't have a wooting (would love to try one) but i managed to learn superglides and all that jazz at a pretty consistent basis. So a wooting is just a shortcut for people who don't wanna put time in. Also theres always configs. I don't play competetive or algs so i can use them freely, if i wanted to. i always just enjoyed nailing stuff like this on my own. Gives me a feeling of control and confidence in just letting myself trust in my "hard" flow for itself. Cause when you stop thinking about which button to press next, when you trained it for weeks. Your brain just does it, it comes natural suddenly. That is a wonderful feeling, seeing your hard work pulled off without effort. Its just a part of your way to play.

  • @VeexFPS
    @VeexFPS Рік тому

    It feels so sponsored ngl..

  • @nnannnnaa
    @nnannnnaa Рік тому

    so you can just hold W to tap strafe?

  • @ihavecrabs56
    @ihavecrabs56 Рік тому

    they should just make it so these things are made possible on lower end hardware. that way everyone has access to these techniques

  • @supreme84x
    @supreme84x Рік тому

    I've got a Wooting 60he and still can't super glide or do any movement shit.

  • @triyo1089
    @triyo1089 Рік тому

    Then there’s me who just uses custom key boards 😂 id give up performance for my zoom65 any day bc its just a dream to type on

  • @Audysseus
    @Audysseus Рік тому

    Tired of controllers complaining about dead zones sand having to go back through the middle of the stick.. like y'all those settings you copy and pasted from your favorite streamer has no dead zone selected and you'll move standing still let alone not having to go back through the middle..... Dense AF fr

  • @AIMSoothsayer
    @AIMSoothsayer Рік тому

    this keyboard already got banned in trackmania tournaments due to its completely customizable input ratio's. But this is apex they don't care what your doing as long as your playing the game... my only real issue with it thoo is how ez they make for people to setup macro's, that will be abused no doubt.

  • @mrkisback
    @mrkisback Рік тому

    Ottr approved.

  • @cSimplicity_
    @cSimplicity_ Рік тому

    Why would there be a problem with this keyboard when the whole of pc can just config file it??

  • @Flo_GMR
    @Flo_GMR Рік тому

    This Keyboard is strong. They should do something about it. Just like aim assist

  • @kogentama685
    @kogentama685 Рік тому

    since when did making a better product than everyone else become cheating, like its not because you are buying this keyboard that you all of a sudden become a god with no recoil or anything. other companies just have to catch up and do better

  • @zacharywilliams1122
    @zacharywilliams1122 Рік тому

    Automation or not, isn't aim assist “automation”!? Therefore this isn't cheating.

  • @JoelVenc
    @JoelVenc Рік тому

    So people say it cheating because you're able to make it faster💀

  • @charleshaines9715
    @charleshaines9715 Рік тому

    Supergluide seems like a bug to me. So it would be better to remove that nonsense. The game should be responsible for limiting unfair advantages. Macros aren't cheating, it's only a complaint by sweats

    • @WanderDMC
      @WanderDMC Рік тому

      How are you gonna say supergliding is an unfair advantage that should be removed, then advocate for macros which give an unfair advantage

  • @washrealDjungelskock
    @washrealDjungelskock Рік тому +1

    Like bro
    Do you Research a little bit better please. I dont offen watch your Videos but everytime i do i notice points and arguments that are just wrong. In the last week i watched your movement tierlist and this one and in bouth are just arguments that arent true.
    As an example. Tachyon Mode is nothing special. It just deactivates the Illumination effect on the keyboard to give the chip more Power so that the polling rate can get higher. Without Tachyon Mode the wooting hast a polling rate of 500hz wich is Below average of any gaming keyboard. With Tachyon mode it has 1000hz polling rate wich is the Standard for gaming and mechanical keyboards and even good Office Membran Keyboards have 1000hz.
    There are Keyboards wich have a higher polling rate tho. In that rwgard the wooting is not special.
    The Real benefit of the wooting is the continous rappid trigger Feature. Not the normal rapid trigger, the continous one. And the most Important benefit of it is not Looting, but the abbility to strafe Kind of instantly. That makes you harder to hit when you side wiggle und makes some movement techs easier. In apex the advantage isnt that big. You really notice it in Tachyon shooters. As for supergliding. Space + C is even without a wooting easier to get working than space + Control could ever be, because you can press them with the same finger and when you do that the accuation point doesnt matter, cause you need to angle your Finger always the same to get the right Timing.
    In the conclusion im completly on your side. I personally own a wooting and its awesome. But its like every other Piece of Hardware. Better Hardware always gives you some Kind of advantage and you can Macro your game on any keyboard. So it cant really be Banned.

  • @libbymeynell3928
    @libbymeynell3928 Рік тому

    people really dont care on xbox, in higher diamond lobbies ive seen a few people spam fire single fire flatline and 301 with perfect accuracy, also dodging bullets and seeing the bullets not move up or down but have a horrible left to right spray