Yeah If you really like the Speed twin I guess a good compromise would be Rain Mode in town and Road on the Highway? Then you get the best of two worlds... You do get used to road pretty quickly though, even in town (it requires some careful clutch work occasionally). I am a new rider and used rain exclusively on my Speedmaster (practically my first bike) for the first few months. Less Bhp than the speed twin but as much grunt down low (lots of torque even from 2000 rpm).. The bike just feels right on road mode (Rain is still useful of course). That said, if I did your sort of riding and lugging stuff around? A Tiger 900 GT would start to look very tempting indeed... (Although I have no problem travelling on the Speedy. When the weather is good at least :) )
This review has mirrored my own conundrum over the past few weeks. I ride the bobber black with my commute being 50/50 city and motorway but I find myself looking for something else. The Thruxton rs has caught my eye but the Tiger 900 GT PRO is more practical. However your comments on letting a bike go after you have spent time and money getting it perfect for me does play a part in not being able to make up my mind on what to do.
Yeah, around town street twin. Luckily I live in the mountains, and drive the speed twin. But it is very fun to drive a slower bike fast than a fast bike slow.
I've test ridden a Street Twin recently, and i was so impressed i'm seriously thinking about it as the next bike. And i come from an Africa Twin 1000. 80% of my riding are backroads and mountain passes. You can actually kit it with windshield, bags and top case and such, for occasional long trips and a few days adventures. The Honda is really big and comfortable, but the Triumph is just so light, and nimble, and fun. Also cheaper maintenance and less gas. So, basically i may be going the opposite way, from big adventure bike, to small, fun but comfortable bike.
2017 Street Scrambler owner here. Had the bike for 3 years now and 18.000miles. As you mentioned, every time I have thought about replacing it, just couldn’t get the same “fun factor” that this bike provides. It’s low down torque, the beautiful handling are simply irreplaceable. Turned mine into a Street Tracker and it is an absolute blast, especially around town and in the twisties. Back roads with a lot of turns are a joy you have to feel to understand what these bikes are about. I’ll keep it for years to come, continue improving on the performance side and maybe aesthetics, but more subtle on that, since it already looks the way I have wanted. Awesome awesome awesome bikes!!!
I have 2016 Street Twin, made it my own (as we do) used it in town, on motorway, in Europe and I love it. I am short in the leg and this bike is perfect, for me. Riding position, slow speed maneuverability, road handling. I have a rack and panniers rails that I fit for touring and it's ok. All I will change is the front brake as you pointed out. This is a keeper. My bobber has the HT 1200 motor and to be honest I do not need all of that extra power.d
I, have a 2016 second hand street twin. I, have mountains and country roads right near my home in Wyoming. Mine is silver with the red ribbon. This is my 3rdTriumph.I, had a 2001 Trophy 1200 for16 years. Now, with about 3 years on the street twin I, still love it!!!! ( 74 years old now). Even at 10,000' it runs well and eats the twisters. I, have never had an issue with the 2 caliper brakes not being sufficient. There is a wind screen on my bike and retro paniers plus some dress up accessories. If I ,was a pup I'd have a Thruxton rs sitting next to it!
Hi, T120 owner in Thailand. Your feelings about changing the bike after a few years is common and quite good if you realize that the bike you have really suits what you want out of it. You have done many good things with the ST and so it is your creation. When I thought about whether I should change my bike, I came up with the conclusion that I would end up buying another T120, but it might be black. :-) I do suburb commuting but try to get into biking heaven at least twice per year for a week or so each time. Enjoy your current choice and it is great that you get a chance to try out many others. Enjoy your videos!
Hello buddy, I just went today to see the Street twin at Triumph London, and on 16th of April I have my test ride and most probably puting my order for de 21' ST. THANKS FOR ALL THE INFO! It helped making my mind up and hopefully we will meet for a ride in future. All the best!
I added to my 2019 Street Twin a Triumph long distance wind shield and a pair of Hepco Becker hard bags. It's perfect this way both for urban and trips riding. After 20 years of Bmw,, I'm so happy with my handy Street Twin (almost 2 years now). No complain at all, and a big improvement in getting around.
Had my Street Twin for four years and covered nearly 45,000 trouble free miles so far. Best changes made are TEC progressive fork springs, transforms the handling, Bonneville seat, better for 300+ mile days, EBC HH pads to improve the brakes which seem OK to me but I came from a 1976 BMW so have a strong grip and Avon Storm now Spirit tyres. I had uprated rear shocks for 16k miles but went back to stock for comfort, the rear can get a bit unsettled at times but you have to be trying on poor surfaces. All in all been a great bike, 70mpg regardless how hard I ride, just a big, friendly, old thing which does not try to scare you, exhilarates not terrifies. (PS I now do my own servicing with Dealer Tool, not difficult once you dive in.)
Just saw this post and i will say this....I have had my Street Twin for 5.5 years now and last week crossed the 30k kilometer mark, it would have probably been over 40, but wasn`t thanks to covid....The bike just gets smoother and smoother with each and every ride...Its been very reliable, and i don`t think I would like to shift to another brand......
I have a 2016 Street Twin and a scooter. It's the scooter I use to bop around town and the Twin for the longer rides. So for me, the scooter is the little bike and the Twin the huge bike. I did for the first time ever, get a vague sense of the gearbox being a bit on the lacking of power side, but the empty lockdown roads were utterly unrealistic conditions. I also hopped on the highway and again, as an old lady, I wasn't full throttle. I just felt I literally couldn't go any faster not for lack of power, but for a lack of connection with the road. I think that's more about me than the bike. I wasn't unnerved by the buffetting. Just the sense of not being firmly on the road. So by the third exit, maybe 12 miles, I got off. So probably not a long highway bike. But it can do the highway. And I think a more experienced rider could do the highways for a while, no problem. I drive it 50 miles on my commute. I have driven it 120 miles on destination rides. I use soft saddles on the side so I go food shopping with it. I take my camera gear and tripod. With the soft side saddles, I don't feel limited and a unipod can tie down nicely beside the seat and strapped securely to the saddle bars. So I feel no need for an Adventure bike but I had thought about the Honda 500X which seems really nice. Though the Twin was easier for me to learn to gear on. I had some trouble with the X of the same year gearing. (Though now the 500X clutch is a slipper clutch too I think.) Honestly, I know men especially are always in search of more, better faster. But in the real world, what more bike do you need? Even on the empty COVID, less than realistic streets, the Twin was for me, only glancing its limitations. Otherwise, if you're on a more powerful bike, the temptation is to go too fast. The Twin keeps you exactly where you need to be. I was a little sad that they made the ''speed twin'' for the more, better, faster at the expense of the power range being less conducive with urban 'streets. Why? To sit under more impatient horses while you wait for the light to change? As for the brakes, and I am no ''caliper'' expert person and have no idea what is actually meant when those tech phrases are used, but here's what the 2016 Twin gives you in the real world. Plenty of stopping power. I practice (do those who complain about the bike's brakes practice?) emergency stopping in parking lots. I think, and again I'm no expert, the bike is designed to keep you from doing an endo so the front break and rear give you mistake play. Like trail-breaking a bit too much on a twistee lean doesn't put you in a ditch. There's forgiveness in the breaks. (I saw a you-tube video where a group of sport-bike riders with their super breaks have something get in their way and they all panic break and do endos.) You're not going to endo on this bike, I don't think. I have never felt the bike's brakes were not going to stop me on time. And honestly, how fast can you stop two wheels without sending the rider off the seat? We can take so many G's before being bucked. But somehow say a better ''caliper'' this or that and more horse-power and more buttons and options and more grunt and power and people think it's a better bike. The common complaint I get is that the bike for a classic is too aggressively seated. I'm a woman and I think this effects taller riders more so maybe it doesn't effect me as much at 5'7. I can ride it for hours and hours. Do a zillion errands or a long single ride. And when I get off I think, why isn't this everyone's primary mode of transportation? Horrible dull daily errands are a blast. And with side saddles, and they look great, you can go anywhere and do anything. Say for a lumber run to Home Depot, there's no reason everything cannot be done on the classic Street Twin.
OWL OpEd Hi, what a great review - thanks for all the info. Do you mind letting me know your height? I’m looking at this bike and went to the dealer today to have a sit on it and see how it was (I’ve only just past my theory but getting excited and want to see what’s about). Anyway it just seemed so heavy to me and I’m unsure if I’m too short, do you need to be able to have your feet flat on the floor both sides? I know I’m getting ahead of myself but just trying to get a feel for different bikes 😊👍🇬🇧
Ive had a street twin for 3 years now and put 15,000 miles on it and still love this bike. I commute to work on windy country roads when the weather is nice and it is perfect for country roads. I also do long tours with it. I've gone cross country last year, 4,500 miles in 2 weeks and it was great at motorway speeds. I do lots of long tours on weekends for hours in the saddle with no problems. Even doing 75-85 mph for hours on end when I got stuck on the highway with absolutely no problems. I've considered a speed twin and T-120 for more power, but honestly if you like the naked bike look and feel, which I do, once you get past 80mph on the highway, much more speed is not necessary. I do have a small dart screen which helps, but the current power and handling just puts a smile on my face. I think I will have this bike a long time. Plus the long service intervals and dependability is a plus. I'm not easy on a bike and ride it hard and I've had no problems at all mechanically.
I've had my 2017 Street Scrambler for about a year and a half now and I still love it. Plenty of bike for around town and for the freeways here. I'm in Utah so they can get up to 85mph if you're heading out to the west desert and it feels like plenty. I had a DR650 before this bike so the Street Scrambler feels like plenty of power to me. It's hard for me to look at other bikes since the aesthetic of the Street Scrambler really speaks to me as a designer and I've done a bunch of custom stuff on it. It was rad meeting you last year at the Bike Shed and seeing this bike in person. I hope you keep it and just get an addition to it because I think you'll miss that sound if you don't have it around.
I've been looking forward to this review and I'm happy to say I found it to be a good, and honest one. (What else?) I bought a 2019 ST and it is every bit the 'bike of my dreams'. As you say there are always things other bikes can do that might be better, or an improvement, that's the beauty of bikes and why we all like bikes so much and talk about them. Ya pays yer money and ya takes yer choice and I'm very happy with mine. Cheers!
Spot on!! There's always some sexy new shiny object but Triumphs really are a perfect combo of timeless beauty + a perfectly capable piece of machinery. I've had my Street Scrambler for a year now - after owing several 1950's + 1960's classics - and the new trumpet is hands down the best bike I've owned to date. Always fires up and never fails to put a smile on my face - and every time I walk away from my SS, I look back over my shoulder - multiple times - to admire her. For me, I'll stay loyal to the brand and just keep tweaking, modifying and riding the hell outta my Triumph. Stay safe, have fun!
I've had my Street Twin for 2 years and completely agree with you. I did a tour around France last year and motorways were tough after a few days. As a whole I still adore my street twin, but the only thing that niggles me is the cheap looking speedo bezel.
Hi all, I used to ride a Bonneville tt in the late 60's, Harley's n Honda's then bought a street twin in May 20. Love it. Lighter than my 1991 Honda 750 which has been a great bike though the st has it all for me, handling, looks, reliability and that beautiful engine. I'm here in the states and its summer. I'm laid off for the time being and riding every chance I get. Be safe 'yins' as we say in Pittsburgh. Lou
Well said- My Honda Monkey is perfect in the City, it fits in elevators and storage lockers easy!!! All about your Environment!! Love the work you do!!!
Glad to hear you love your bike Bob. I love my bike but I’m always tempted by something different or new. And yet when I stop and think about it I realise I already have my dream bike or close enough to it. Mine is a 2002 Honda Hornet so it’s not new, but it’s still bags of fun.
Excellent vid and mirrors my own recent history a bit too :D I have had a Street Twin for nearly 3 years (12k miles) and loved it for almost the same reasons you do. I don't have a commute but I like to do the back roads and the occasional longer trip on A and B roads (avoid motorway) - that lazy torquey twin is fantastic. I started to think I wanted to trade up to Speed Twin for "more power" but testrode one and it didn't feel worth the big cash upgrade. So in lockdown I considered a 2nd bike to compliment it - either a Tiger 900 so can do longer trips in comfort and Street twin is for local twisty A/B road runs - OR a Street triple to do the back lane blasting etc and the Street twin fot he longer runs. I plumped for the Street triple - the Tiger 900 had a fantastic engine but it didn't give me what I wanted... I realised I was happy with the Street Twin for torquey lolloping along doing distance and a bit of twisty and then I wanted something more performant for the "fun" side :D .... One thing became clear - The Street Twin is a fantastic bike that is hard to replace!
Great video thank you! Also watched your review riding the bike and that was great too! I’ve just recently bought a 2018 Street Twin, took it out for only its second ride yesterday in face and I absolutely love it! Incredible torque and brilliant handling. Everything you’ve said in your video is completely spot on, I’ll be keeping this bike for some time I’m sure! Thanks again for your great review!
Good summary Bob, I'm not in a city or ride in one. I've had my T120 for 2 years now after a 2016 Africa Twin. I thought about going back to an adventure bike but when I tried the Tiger 900 I realised that the Bonnie is what suits me best, with the Givi rack and a Dart screen and using Rain mode for town and pillion work, it really wouldn't make sense right now to spend a lot of money for no real gain.
Had mine for four years and I still love it ! Could use some leg room on longish trips though. I'm with you on the adventure bikes, but only if I can keep this one !
loved the video. I own a 2018 Street Twin myself and ride about 15 mi./day on it to the office and back home. I used to own scooters (Vespa 300 Super) and wanted to move up to a more powerfull (and cool) bike. I mostly do city traffic here in Santiago (Chile) and love the acceleration and torque of the bike, leaving everyone behind me quickly. Bike Is narrow enought to cut lanes with it. Could not be happier. Agree with you with the front brakes. It takes time to get use to them, so as to brake enough but not too hard activate the ABS. Traction control has prooven very useful as well , for driving on wet cobblestone streets!
I've had the Street Scrambler for 3 years now and still love the bike for the kind of riding I do now (mostly local, mostly B roads, countryside and urban). I had a GS1200 for 10 years before that - a Teutonic masterpiece but too heavy and unwieldy (and, personal opinion, not exactly beautiful...). Sold it for the Scrambler and it was like changing your Alsatian for a Labrador - I use it for 'walks' everyday, it's friendly, powerful enough, always keen, and just - so - much - fun - to - ride! I also think it's a beautiful looking machine and it gives me a lot of aesthetic pleasure. Long trips and European jaunts I stick an MRA screen on, side pannier and Lomo bag on the back - deals with the wind and luggage issues. The only gripe I have is the front brake, as you mentioned. I've even considered swapping out for the 2019 four pot but way too expensive. Great channel. Always enjoy watching.
Ok not a Street Twin but the T100 Black, so same engine etc.. It looks great, good around town, bullet proof engine, frame etc.. I've ridden mine from Scotland to Vladivostok then on to Vancouver and finally the Florida Keys. So town to autobahn, to potholed russian highways to gravel roads- so I'd say it can pretty much do most things!
I've been riding my street twin for four years now day in day out, and love it but it has not yet gone a hole year without breaking down in some way. Throttle controller, ABS controller, loom breaks etc. not to mention recall for dodgy fuel pump and there is water in the clock. Had to change the fork springs to stop the excessive dive under breaking, changed the rear shocks because they were awful and a de-cat to make it pick up and run better, apart from that its all good. Never found the brakes to be an issue and I kept the stock pipes because they just look right. Fuel consumption is good and as you say great around towns and lanes. A bit buzzy on the throttle hand on long runs and the lack of a sixth gear is a shame, but they have to sell the 1200s don't they. Great vid, hope I will see more.
Found a hell of a deal on a '22 with literally 20miles on it for just over $7k I couldn't pass it up. Absolutely love the bike. Love it. I'm absolutely having a blast putting around my neighborhood getting used to riding again and can't wait to be a bit more comfortable to hit some other roads.
Got a low mileage 2016 ST, to be honest I have thought of other bikes but can't justify....Mainly town riding or run to the coast a few times per year....still puts a smile on my face that low end torque is ace....
street twin is my first MC .. bought the 17 model late 16 .. I love this machine .. Tried several others but you are really spot on .. It is just so nimble and yet so powerfull .. the 1200 engines has that extra gear for motorways but I have gotten used to the sound of the twin at high speed and it does 130-40 quite well .. 110 is easy peasy and quick too .. It is a really great .. I am not going to sell mine I simply like it to much :)
Hi, had my street twin for 2 years and 10,000 miles had to have it rewired after electrics to LCD panel, indicators and heated grips packed up. Apparently all due to the factory making the loom about 3 cm too short. Also, head bearings needed replacing... dealer said they were made from cheese. Luckily all done under warranty.
Great vids man! Your vids helped me decide to buy my first bike, a ST '19 mat ironstone. Feels like a perfect beginner bike but also a bike to keep for years. Just looking at it is an experience
Pretty much spot on dude. I've had mine since 2017, and it happily co exists with my little Vespa, so best of both worlds I guess. I would like better brakes though, couldn't agree with you more on that one. That being said, I did do 3 trackday with it with California Superbike School!
Had my ST since 2016 and it suits me down to the ground. I always thought that if Triumph made a 250/300 version it would be a runaway winner, can't really see any reason why they don't.... it's not always about large CC.
I've been struggling for a couple of years between my NC750X, or one of the Triumph Twins or a Z900RS. I tried th eNC, T100 and Z/RS in 2018 and chose the NC for practical reasons/cost at that time. However, now I've ridden the T100, T120 and Speed but not the Street which strangely is the one I've come to home in on without riding for many of the logical reasons you have described. Your comparison of Street and Speed has helped keep my head in charge of heart (the Speed is certainly a great machine). I'd ridden the Z/RS 'by accident' at a dealer and have to say it it a great bike which has left me tempted - it shares a lot of the Speed Twin character, with the same more docile practicality of the Street. Heart and head are struggling hard this year to contemplate a change. -except the NC is actually a perfect bike...just lacking any character.
I’ve ridden the 700 and 750 NCs and I agree they’re really practical and good value but don’t really ignite the soul. I’m yet to get round to riding the Z900RS but I think I’d love it - must make it happen this year!
You are spot on regarding the primary consideration being HOW you ride. I had a beautiful Honda VTX bagger with all the highway uh....” motorway” accessories for long haul riding but the truth is I don’t care for all day rides and definitely prefer back road 1-3 hour lazy jaunts to motorway miles. I rarely ever road with a passenger and used those bags for an extra layer or pair of sunglasses more than anything and eventually sold that bike 3 years ago thinking my riding days were over. With the advent of Covid, this summer I bought my first Triumph...a little inexpensive 05 Speedmaster with the 865cc and I have to say I absolutely LOVE it. I put a nice Corbin solo seat and removed the bags and windscreen the previous owner gave me and giving her a much more stripped down look that I prefer. She’s got plenty of torque and can easily do 75-80 MPH all day long on the motorway if need be but she’s so brilliant and nimble on the little country lane twisties I prefer that I can’t imagine going back to a big highway bike again. Now it might be nice to leave the carbs behind so I am considering the new Speed Twin but for now this has been love at first sight!
Oh yes, it sounds like you're tending towards a GS ;0) Great vid as ever Rob...if the bike you have works why change? Plus, who doesn't love a Triumph eh?
I bought mine because it reminded me most of my Triumphs back in the 60’s when we removed the badges, added upswept megaphone mufflers, took off the front fender, changed the bars...and it sounds good, too, and hasn’t broken down yet!
LOVE my 2018 Street Twin. I got the windshield, luggage rack and saddlebags when I bought it new. I don't have an issue with speed on the highways, and have no issues keeping up with the big Harleys when we travel. The windshield makes all the difference at the higher speeds; 500-700 miles in a day is tough, but doable. We stay away from the interstate highways as it's small enough the large trucks can try to toss it around. Overall, it's a fun bike!
Great videos overall and excellent presentation. I cannot bring anything to the table right now as I have just last night bought a 2118 ST and collect it next week. I have had a long succession of Triumphs from back when Queen Victoria was a young girl (feels like it anyway) I have a 1973 T140V in mint condition, no rust or leaks, in the garage and its perfect in all aspects except my bionic right knee would not agree when I am kick starting. So I have been poring over tons of machine reviews for the past year. I am a Triumph "purist" in that I love the design. My Meriden T140V looks absolutely brilliant, but the modern Triumphs have somehow retained that iconic look and of course replaced all the very outdated bike components. My rides will be mostly urban and a bit of Norfolk countryside without the need to get anywhere in a great hurry. Also doing the Advanced Rider course where handling and ease of control at all speeds is useful. Not sure if I can part with the T140V, would need to go to someone who can appreciate it, but for now there will be two great bikes in the garage. Liam
You really spoke to me with the comment about the brakes. That's my only problem with most bikes, especially big ol heavy cruisers that only have single disk. If I were to buy a Bonnie, it'd have to be the Speed Twin (unless i find a smoking deal on a single-disk Bonnie like yours). Hope all is well over there, MB! #staySAFEeveryone
A very well thought out review! I appreciate the comparisons to the other bikes that you’ve had the chance to ride. A great balance between practicality and emotional/visceral feel for the machine! 👍
I've been doing a ton of mods to my Street Twin, thanks in part to your videos. I love the bike. I live in a very urban environment and with a few style upgrades, there's no other bike I'd rather have for splitting lanes, lane filtering, and commuting. With the TEC camshaft it has all of the performance of the T120 with the size and convenience of the Street Twin.
@@triplethefun Motone and Baak, primarily. Got exhaust from Zard in Italy. Picked the rest from various places depending on if I liked the aesthetics or not
Wife has the 2019 Street Twin, so the one with the extra 10 hp and better brakes compared to the 2018 and earlier versions; she has relatively little trouble keeping up (more or less) with myself on my T120. I think Triumph got the latest version of the Twin 'right' - it added enough extra power (and stopping power) to address the only real outstanding issues that the model had; the new(er) ST with the extra power doesn't run out of breath as quickly as the older one, and my wife's noticed no issues riding it at higher speeds on the motorway. I tend to suggest most people either get a 2019+ model ST, or look to swap the brakes and cam on an older used one, as that really addresses the only true weak points of the earlier ST model.
A great informative video. Although I also love the Street Twin, I think the new Tiger 900 with its light and agileness, it’s comfort and practicality is a winner for me.
I currently use a ZZR 1200 Kawasaki sport touring bike that is used as a commuter. I changed the sprockets to lower my freeway rpm's by about 1000 rpm. I am usually traveling about 70 miles a day roundtrip. I am commuting from Syracuse to Salt Lake City in Utah, USA. I am interested in buying a Triumph. I had a 1966 Bonneville when I was younger and it brings back fond memories.
MB. You have the ideal bike for commuting around London, I'd be keeping it and buying an old rat bike to commute,if that gets half-inched its no great loss, its less of a worry.
Howdy Bob, as you know I’ve had mine 4 yrs now, think it was first one bought in Rep of Ireland...don’t think i’ll ever get rid of it, tried so many times to justify trading it in for a T120 but simply not worth it(trade-in value abysmal)! I love modding and tinkering with it, just ordered a set of Heidenau K60’s and am always adding(or taking away bits)....it will be handed down to my son, it’s a cracking little bike. Perfect for city/urban riding and a Sunday country road spin.....Hope the family all well, keep the vids coming😃🍀JF
Trade is is a joke - always better to sell private and take the cash to the dealer IMO. More hassle dealing with buyers but worth it if you can be bothered. I’m thinking about the K60s too - the road tyres I’ve got at the moment look a bit lame. Let me know how you get on with them!
I'm thinking of buying this bike, but I worry a little about the weight and driving around city traffic. That's why I'm also considering the new Kawasaki Z650 RS 2022 coming soon, also a very good looking bike.
Another fantastic video, I can see in a few years I may have outgrown mine. but for now commuting & fun its a perfect machine. Thanks for your great content
You summed up my thoughts on my Street Scrambler pretty perfectly. I bought it as my first motorcycle and it’s been great to learn on and ride around the city and having the “off road capability” really started to peak my interest into off road riding. Well after riding local trails I’ve been pretty disappointed with how it handles on the dirt and I also feel bad taking it there as if it’s too pretty to be there and I have to worry more about dropping it with having the metal tank and all. I also just came back from my first motorcycle camping trip and the lack of luggage space was a killer. I like to think I packed pretty light and it’s not that I would pack more but being stuck to just a top bag with all my camping gear and then one side bag for my clothes, rain gear, skateboard. Tank bag for camera and all that it just became a huge hassle and tearing the bike apart every time I needed something. The engine held up ok on motorways but there was some sections through mountain passes where the speed limit is 120km/hr all steep up hill where the bikes fuel economy got ruined and I overall felt unsafe being passed by huge semi’s because it doesn’t have the grunt (6th gear really) that it needs to maintain highway speed for a long period of time. Even fitted with a Dart Flyscreen and BarkBusters being that exposed for that long through rain, hail, -5 at the top of mountains became too much and was the final nail in the coffin for me. The bike is fantastic like you said as a city commuter and for what I wanted as a first bike but since then my riding style has changed and I’m looking at trading for a T7 or Africa Twin ASAP.
I have a 2019 ST so as they upgraded the suspension/ brakes + up 10hp, I haven't the same complaints as prior 2019 owners. However the rest, positive and negative, I agree fully. I have done some upgrades and the top two, that made a noticeable difference was adding the X pipe and changing the tyres. I had a new and better bike after these changes.
I have my street twin for 2 years now. I also did a lot modifications and still love it. I also own a harley sportster now, but this a different experience. nice to have both bikes. but if I had to I would sell the harley 🤔 maybe... 😅
Take a 2017 Street Twin, fit aftermarket fork springs, Fox shocks and springs, a tail tidy, a 39 or 40 tooth rear sprocket, Vance and Hines silencers, a 4-pot Brembo brake kit on the front, paint the headlight brackets and instrument bezel ring black, and paint the tank and side covers grey with metal flake. Maybe a mini windscreen. If you ride early spring or late fall, add heated grips. That would be my perfect bike.
Do what I did, used ZeroSR 2018+, best commute bike ever...even better than scooters. This coming from someone that has commuted on scooters for the last 15years. Had a street twin a few years ago and it felt like too much work to commute or twisty mountain rides.
I’ve got a 2016 Street Twin and it suits me as a new rider.It’s not too powerful.The breaks are okay.I’ve thought about getting the Bremen upgrade.I like that I can flat foot the bike and it doesn’t feel to high.I love it overall.I’ve always wanted a Triumph Boneville .
We have to figure out what we want the bike for (?), like you did knowing most of your riding is in town. Are we taking a pillion? Are we doing long distance touring? Do we want to keep to a simple bike? Does it have to be light? I now have a Speed Twin, but if I wasn’t taking a pillion then a smaller capacity bike would be good. For long distance touring with pillion and luggage I’d go for a R1250RT. I once had a 2013 air cooled R1200RT, which couldn’t be beaten for comfort and wind protection; but i traded because i knew my riding would become more local. The Tiger 900 is practical and safe, but i don’t like the looks of them... So the Speed Twin is a great compromise for the moment.
My mate got one as a courtesy bike when his Street Triple RS was in for a service. HATED it ... underpowered, low on torque (for a 900 twin), poor bite point on clutch, didn't get on with its aesthetics, etc. Gave me a shot on it and I really liked it. I think he was comparing apples and oranges and expecting them to be the same. Whereas I (with a lot more m/c experience than he's got) had no preconceptions and judged it on what it was and what it's built for. If I lived in a big city and did a lot of commuting and in town work, I could live with this bike NO PROBLEM ... and it looks really good too.
I personally am a BMW boxer guy but oh, and I hope my fellow BMW guys don't roast me for this, that thing is beautiful it sounds awesome. A 1200 cc motor tuned for high-torque I'm sure is reminiscent of the boxer but with 120 degree crank having the Thump Thump Thump of a V-Twin my goodness that bike is cool. I Can Only Imagine you have to feel cool ride in that bad boy around
I love the ergonomics of the speed and street twin. Good video and comparison! And ever since @TheMissendenFlyer did some videos on the twin, I've wanted one. :D
Had a street twin for 2 years, same model as yours upgraded to a T120 12 months ago. Was looking for a bit more power, better brakes and more weight for freeway riding (Australia). Still love the T120.
Really Useful points. I love the twin sound and the type of bike, its where Im at home. I really like the balance of usability and passion of this Bonny, its also a very clean design and the only thing I miss is the dual clocks which Id pay more for but not important either. Such a useful review/2 year update, I might be buying this in the next 12 months, noice, thankyou!
I have a 2022 Street Twin. I love it. Now that I’m a bit less off a noob I find myself wishing I could go faster, but honestly the ST is plenty even for passing on the highway. I’ve done a lot of customizations and will probably never get rid of it because it’s perfect for commuting, but will probably get a second faster bike for more spirited fun.
Have an old 865 SE and like you say love the fact I can push it to limit flickable , 17 “ front wheel. Looked at speed and street and wondering if realistically street enough.?? For a change up listed 865 on eBay but took off as didn’t want to part! The new tiger is a terrific comfort mobile. I have a Versys 650 with full luggage under 7k. Might suit your needs? Great all rounder.
just picked up my 2020 Speed Twin and put Nitron shocks on front and rear. SO MUCH better. Its probably the most Soulful Triumph I've ever owned, and so ridable as an everyday round towner OR longer country rides. I've even tour on it
Nice to have review to reinforce my impulse buy 3 years ago after a 30 year absence from riding . I’ve enjoyed every minute of riding around and likewise only do urban and B road riding but always come back with a smile on my face . I had to change the mirrors to bar end as standard were useless for a chunky chap and the seat for a bench seat . This made the world of difference as now I sit on the bike and not in it and in my opinion improved the handling. There are a few other cosmetic modifications . Like you I’ve considered a Speed Twin and would like one but I don’t think I would benefit from the extra performance and I still love the ST . So it’s a keeper and I will do a few more modifications like your headlight .
Great channel. I've had my Street Twin for 2 years and you nailed it on the positives and negatives. Still love the bike but looking to upgrade to something that has more high speed/high distance ability for 20% of highway riding and trips here in the States. How's the Moto Guzzi V85TT?
I’ve had it 2 years, pretty much kept stock for most of it. Cosmetic changes, just wraps on the bars from Trip Machine. Now considering Tec Bike Parts mods like their shorter pipes that sound much better than stock. I’ve been through the luggage capacity dilemma. Currently using Lomo waterproof saddlebags which are great for the price although they aren’t the best in looks. Super functional. I prefer not to wear a backpack. Agree they’re not the best for motorway. I did a 170 mile loop to Daventry for volunteer delivery and it was do-able but not the most comfortable experience. Still no compelling reason to change bikes or upgrade. Most of my riding is in town and lower than motorway speeds. I barely get out of 1st with most of London increasingly capped at 20mph. I think i will keep tweaking this one as the potential for the engine is there with some mods like suspension, pipes, decat, and camshaft. I did have one annoying thing happen. I overturned the right side rear suspension preload adjustment beyond the 5th position and ‘fell off a cliff’. Between the chain and pipe, there isn’t much room to move and I’m unable to turn it back. I’m going to try to use a strap wrench to continue turning it all the way around, which i can’t do with the tool they provide.
I battle with question of a more touring oriented bike vs. city. City oriented you have a some really cool looking options like your street twin. In the end the more practical adventure style (SUV of bikes) will likely win. Cb500x is a good fit for what I need (country roads and some highway) but the versus 650 and tenere 700 would also work. Being cheap, the 500x will likely win.
Was in a similar boat with the type of riding but quite like the street focused twins, ended up giving up the street twin for a desert sled.. it is an improvement in some ways, making it more motorway suitable has yielded mixed results (can't find a decent screen!) but the extra power and braking is great. I imagine its a lighter, tamer scrambler 1200..
This is going to sound odd but try the BMW f750 gs(or any equivalent) . I had the old 800gs & and now the 700gs and what I learned was that the smaller 19 inch rim is ALOT better for your in town driving. I would imagine that it would tick every box you mentioned in the video. 21 inch front wheels are very hard to navigate in town.
Sold my 2015 Scout coz it was going to kill me as I couldn't quite get the hang of dismounting to help it round corners. Took a T120, 3 x Street Twins and a Ducati Scrambler for test rides. Bought a 2016 Street Twin. Mods - X chain, Tec X pipe with std mufflers( don't adhere to "loud bikes save lives", paying attention does) , 1 tooth bigger front sprocket, affixed 70s tank badges and knee pads and T120 mirrors as std even with narrow shoulhers had to mobe sideways to check for traffic. I then sold it when I became unemployable in 2018 with 2 sets of tyres and 23,000km under my belt. July 2020, bought it back again with 27,000km on the clock and added Givi saddle bag racks today. If I can't find a way to affix something cheaper than Givi bags, I'll have to bite the bullet. I would like to fit mid-late 60s tank rack, bar end mirrors, as long as I can find some that do the job, tec cam and maybe a belt drive, maybe paint the mudguards and headlight shell silver, oh, and am looking into whether it's possible to fit a Street Scrambler single seat and rack. Never had problems with handling or braking. One of the few gripes is milky film left on black engine after riding in the rain.
Scrambler seat and rack won't fit, rear part of the frame is different. If you fit the belt drive conversion you will be back to std gearing so maybe find out if the T120 or Bobber belt conversion fits if you want to maintain the higher gearing.
A lot of the things you like about riding the street twin, two year’s on, are the same things I like about riding it on the backroads of Virginia. weight, wheelbase, torque, maneuverability. Don’t count it out on gravel, and it is quick up a twisty hill.
Great Vid. Had my street twin just over a year. Ridden it into London from Kent pre-lock down commute and it's hard going on motorway for 30+miles. Since covid relaxed, I've been heading out into the lanes and countryside - and I really want something that spins up quicker for a more dynamic ride. But can't justify a street triple.. yet! So just customising the street twin for now.
Good vid. My partner has been considering a 2019 Street Twin for her next bike and all the points you mentioned suggest it could be a good fit for her. I'd be interested to hear if you considered the Tracer 700 or 900, or Tiger Sport for longer journies.
Not sure why I had 230kg in my head for the wet weight. It's 198 kg dry and about 217kg kerb. Sorry!
A Speed Twin would be perfect for you?
Yeah If you really like the Speed twin I guess a good compromise would be Rain Mode in town and Road on the Highway? Then you get the best of two worlds...
You do get used to road pretty quickly though, even in town (it requires some careful clutch work occasionally). I am a new rider and used rain exclusively on my Speedmaster (practically my first bike) for the first few months. Less Bhp than the speed twin but as much grunt down low (lots of torque even from 2000 rpm).. The bike just feels right on road mode (Rain is still useful of course).
That said, if I did your sort of riding and lugging stuff around? A Tiger 900 GT would start to look very tempting indeed... (Although I have no problem travelling on the Speedy. When the weather is good at least :) )
This review has mirrored my own conundrum over the past few weeks. I ride the bobber black with my commute being 50/50 city and motorway but I find myself looking for something else. The Thruxton rs has caught my eye but the Tiger 900 GT PRO is more practical. However your comments on letting a bike go after you have spent time and money getting it perfect for me does play a part in not being able to make up my mind on what to do.
Stuart Mahoney I feel like an ADV bike would be perfect for commuting
I was surprised by that weight, that would make it heavier then the t100
I just bought a Street Twin and rode it for the first time today. I love it!
Enjoy!
What colour is it? Mine’s red. Had it for two years still love it.
Yeah, around town street twin. Luckily I live in the mountains, and drive the speed twin. But it is very fun to drive a slower bike fast than a fast bike slow.
I LUUUUUVE my Street Twin, took it out of lockdown just today... feels so good
I've test ridden a Street Twin recently, and i was so impressed i'm seriously thinking about it as the next bike. And i come from an Africa Twin 1000. 80% of my riding are backroads and mountain passes. You can actually kit it with windshield, bags and top case and such, for occasional long trips and a few days adventures. The Honda is really big and comfortable, but the Triumph is just so light, and nimble, and fun. Also cheaper maintenance and less gas. So, basically i may be going the opposite way, from big adventure bike, to small, fun but comfortable bike.
I’m thinking the same..Africa twin 1100 adv.sports owner but I want them both😅
2017 Street Scrambler owner here. Had the bike for 3 years now and 18.000miles. As you mentioned, every time I have thought about replacing it, just couldn’t get the same “fun factor” that this bike provides. It’s low down torque, the beautiful handling are simply irreplaceable. Turned mine into a Street Tracker and it is an absolute blast, especially around town and in the twisties. Back roads with a lot of turns are a joy you have to feel to understand what these bikes are about. I’ll keep it for years to come, continue improving on the performance side and maybe aesthetics, but more subtle on that, since it already looks the way I have wanted. Awesome awesome awesome bikes!!!
I have 2016 Street Twin, made it my own (as we do) used it in town, on motorway, in Europe and I love it. I am short in the leg and this bike is perfect, for me. Riding position, slow speed maneuverability, road handling. I have a rack and panniers rails that I fit for touring and it's ok. All I will change is the front brake as you pointed out. This is a keeper. My bobber has the HT 1200 motor and to be honest I do not need all of that extra power.d
why not upgrade to between calipers or 2 discs
I, have a 2016 second hand street twin. I, have mountains and country roads right near my home in Wyoming. Mine is silver with the red ribbon. This is my 3rdTriumph.I, had a 2001 Trophy 1200 for16 years. Now, with about 3 years on the street twin I, still love it!!!! ( 74 years old now). Even at 10,000' it runs well and eats the twisters. I, have never had an issue with the 2 caliper brakes not being sufficient. There is a wind screen on my bike and retro paniers plus some dress up accessories. If I ,was a pup I'd have a Thruxton rs sitting next to it!
Hi, T120 owner in Thailand. Your feelings about changing the bike after a few years is common and quite good if you realize that the bike you have really suits what you want out of it. You have done many good things with the ST and so it is your creation. When I thought about whether I should change my bike, I came up with the conclusion that I would end up buying another T120, but it might be black. :-) I do suburb commuting but try to get into biking heaven at least twice per year for a week or so each time. Enjoy your current choice and it is great that you get a chance to try out many others. Enjoy your videos!
Hello buddy, I just went today to see the Street twin at Triumph London, and on 16th of April I have my test ride and most probably puting my order for de 21' ST.
THANKS FOR ALL THE INFO! It helped making my mind up and hopefully we will meet for a ride in future.
All the best!
I added to my 2019 Street Twin a Triumph long distance wind shield and a pair of Hepco Becker hard bags. It's perfect this way both for urban and trips riding. After 20 years of Bmw,, I'm so happy with my handy Street Twin (almost 2 years now). No complain at all, and a big improvement in getting around.
Had my Street Twin for four years and covered nearly 45,000 trouble free miles so far. Best changes made are TEC progressive fork springs, transforms the handling, Bonneville seat, better for 300+ mile days, EBC HH pads to improve the brakes which seem OK to me but I came from a 1976 BMW so have a strong grip and Avon Storm now Spirit tyres. I had uprated rear shocks for 16k miles but went back to stock for comfort, the rear can get a bit unsettled at times but you have to be trying on poor surfaces. All in all been a great bike, 70mpg regardless how hard I ride, just a big, friendly, old thing which does not try to scare you, exhilarates not terrifies. (PS I now do my own servicing with Dealer Tool, not difficult once you dive in.)
Just saw this post and i will say this....I have had my Street Twin for 5.5 years now and last week crossed the 30k kilometer mark, it would have probably been over 40, but wasn`t thanks to covid....The bike just gets smoother and smoother with each and every ride...Its been very reliable, and i don`t think I would like to shift to another brand......
I have a 2016 Street Twin and a scooter. It's the scooter I use to bop around town and the Twin for the longer rides. So for me, the scooter is the little bike and the Twin the huge bike.
I did for the first time ever, get a vague sense of the gearbox being a bit on the lacking of power side, but the empty lockdown roads were utterly unrealistic conditions. I also hopped on the highway and again, as an old lady, I wasn't full throttle. I just felt I literally couldn't go any faster not for lack of power, but for a lack of connection with the road. I think that's more about me than the bike. I wasn't unnerved by the buffetting. Just the sense of not being firmly on the road. So by the third exit, maybe 12 miles, I got off. So probably not a long highway bike. But it can do the highway. And I think a more experienced rider could do the highways for a while, no problem.
I drive it 50 miles on my commute. I have driven it 120 miles on destination rides. I use soft saddles on the side so I go food shopping with it. I take my camera gear and tripod. With the soft side saddles, I don't feel limited and a unipod can tie down nicely beside the seat and strapped securely to the saddle bars. So I feel no need for an Adventure bike but I had thought about the Honda 500X which seems really nice. Though the Twin was easier for me to learn to gear on. I had some trouble with the X of the same year gearing. (Though now the 500X clutch is a slipper clutch too I think.)
Honestly, I know men especially are always in search of more, better faster. But in the real world, what more bike do you need? Even on the empty COVID, less than realistic streets, the Twin was for me, only glancing its limitations. Otherwise, if you're on a more powerful bike, the temptation is to go too fast. The Twin keeps you exactly where you need to be. I was a little sad that they made the ''speed twin'' for the more, better, faster at the expense of the power range being less conducive with urban 'streets. Why? To sit under more impatient horses while you wait for the light to change?
As for the brakes, and I am no ''caliper'' expert person and have no idea what is actually meant when those tech phrases are used, but here's what the 2016 Twin gives you in the real world. Plenty of stopping power. I practice (do those who complain about the bike's brakes practice?) emergency stopping in parking lots. I think, and again I'm no expert, the bike is designed to keep you from doing an endo so the front break and rear give you mistake play. Like trail-breaking a bit too much on a twistee lean doesn't put you in a ditch. There's forgiveness in the breaks. (I saw a you-tube video where a group of sport-bike riders with their super breaks have something get in their way and they all panic break and do endos.) You're not going to endo on this bike, I don't think. I have never felt the bike's brakes were not going to stop me on time. And honestly, how fast can you stop two wheels without sending the rider off the seat? We can take so many G's before being bucked. But somehow say a better ''caliper'' this or that and more horse-power and more buttons and options and more grunt and power and people think it's a better bike.
The common complaint I get is that the bike for a classic is too aggressively seated. I'm a woman and I think this effects taller riders more so maybe it doesn't effect me as much at 5'7. I can ride it for hours and hours. Do a zillion errands or a long single ride. And when I get off I think, why isn't this everyone's primary mode of transportation? Horrible dull daily errands are a blast. And with side saddles, and they look great, you can go anywhere and do anything. Say for a lumber run to Home Depot, there's no reason everything cannot be done on the classic Street Twin.
OWL OpEd Hi, what a great review - thanks for all the info. Do you mind letting me know your height? I’m looking at this bike and went to the dealer today to have a sit on it and see how it was (I’ve only just past my theory but getting excited and want to see what’s about). Anyway it just seemed so heavy to me and I’m unsure if I’m too short, do you need to be able to have your feet flat on the floor both sides? I know I’m getting ahead of myself but just trying to get a feel for different bikes 😊👍🇬🇧
@@quasimodo614 she says she's 5'7 (174cm) in her comment 🙂
@@styrr3 oh thanks, my bad 👎
@@quasimodo614 5'7 = 167,5 cm to be exact, just FYI !
Ive had a street twin for 3 years now and put 15,000 miles on it and still love this bike. I commute to work on windy country roads when the weather is nice and it is perfect for country roads. I also do long tours with it. I've gone cross country last year, 4,500 miles in 2 weeks and it was great at motorway speeds. I do lots of long tours on weekends for hours in the saddle with no problems. Even doing 75-85 mph for hours on end when I got stuck on the highway with absolutely no problems. I've considered a speed twin and T-120 for more power, but honestly if you like the naked bike look and feel, which I do, once you get past 80mph on the highway, much more speed is not necessary. I do have a small dart screen which helps, but the current power and handling just puts a smile on my face. I think I will have this bike a long time. Plus the long service intervals and dependability is a plus. I'm not easy on a bike and ride it hard and I've had no problems at all mechanically.
Mine’s been reliable too - can’t fault it so far
I've had my 2017 Street Scrambler for about a year and a half now and I still love it. Plenty of bike for around town and for the freeways here. I'm in Utah so they can get up to 85mph if you're heading out to the west desert and it feels like plenty. I had a DR650 before this bike so the Street Scrambler feels like plenty of power to me. It's hard for me to look at other bikes since the aesthetic of the Street Scrambler really speaks to me as a designer and I've done a bunch of custom stuff on it.
It was rad meeting you last year at the Bike Shed and seeing this bike in person. I hope you keep it and just get an addition to it because I think you'll miss that sound if you don't have it around.
Good to hear from you mate! Glad you're still enjoying your scram
I've been looking forward to this review and I'm happy to say I found it to be a good, and honest one. (What else?) I bought a 2019 ST and it is every bit the 'bike of my dreams'. As you say there are always things other bikes can do that might be better, or an improvement, that's the beauty of bikes and why we all like bikes so much and talk about them. Ya pays yer money and ya takes yer choice and I'm very happy with mine. Cheers!
Spot on!! There's always some sexy new shiny object but Triumphs really are a perfect combo of timeless beauty + a perfectly capable piece of machinery. I've had my Street Scrambler for a year now - after owing several 1950's + 1960's classics - and the new trumpet is hands down the best bike I've owned to date. Always fires up and never fails to put a smile on my face - and every time I walk away from my SS, I look back over my shoulder - multiple times - to admire her. For me, I'll stay loyal to the brand and just keep tweaking, modifying and riding the hell outta my Triumph. Stay safe, have fun!
I've had my Street Twin for 2 years and completely agree with you. I did a tour around France last year and motorways were tough after a few days. As a whole I still adore my street twin, but the only thing that niggles me is the cheap looking speedo bezel.
Hi all, I used to ride a Bonneville tt in the late 60's, Harley's n Honda's then bought a street twin in May 20. Love it. Lighter than my 1991 Honda 750 which has been a great bike though the st has it all for me, handling, looks, reliability and that beautiful engine. I'm here in the states and its summer. I'm laid off for the time being and riding every chance I get. Be safe 'yins' as we say in Pittsburgh. Lou
Well said- My Honda Monkey is perfect in the City, it fits in elevators and storage lockers easy!!! All about your Environment!! Love the work you do!!!
Glad to hear you love your bike Bob. I love my bike but I’m always tempted by something different or new. And yet when I stop and think about it I realise I already have my dream bike or close enough to it. Mine is a 2002 Honda Hornet so it’s not new, but it’s still bags of fun.
Excellent vid and mirrors my own recent history a bit too :D I have had a Street Twin for nearly 3 years (12k miles) and loved it for almost the same reasons you do. I don't have a commute but I like to do the back roads and the occasional longer trip on A and B roads (avoid motorway) - that lazy torquey twin is fantastic. I started to think I wanted to trade up to Speed Twin for "more power" but testrode one and it didn't feel worth the big cash upgrade. So in lockdown I considered a 2nd bike to compliment it - either a Tiger 900 so can do longer trips in comfort and Street twin is for local twisty A/B road runs - OR a Street triple to do the back lane blasting etc and the Street twin fot he longer runs. I plumped for the Street triple - the Tiger 900 had a fantastic engine but it didn't give me what I wanted... I realised I was happy with the Street Twin for torquey lolloping along doing distance and a bit of twisty and then I wanted something more performant for the "fun" side :D .... One thing became clear - The Street Twin is a fantastic bike that is hard to replace!
I have a 2018 dct goldwing, best bike I have ever owned.
Great video thank you! Also watched your review riding the bike and that was great too! I’ve just recently bought a 2018 Street Twin, took it out for only its second ride yesterday in face and I absolutely love it! Incredible torque and brilliant handling. Everything you’ve said in your video is completely spot on, I’ll be keeping this bike for some time I’m sure! Thanks again for your great review!
Good summary Bob, I'm not in a city or ride in one. I've had my T120 for 2 years now after a 2016 Africa Twin. I thought about going back to an adventure bike but when I tried the Tiger 900 I realised that the Bonnie is what suits me best, with the Givi rack and a Dart screen and using Rain mode for town and pillion work, it really wouldn't make sense right now to spend a lot of money for no real gain.
Sounds sensible! It’s so easy to get tempted by the latest bikes but sometimes the bike you already have is the best for the job
Had mine for four years and I still love it ! Could use some leg room on longish trips though. I'm with you on the adventure bikes, but only if I can keep this one !
Finally, have been waiting for this review for such a long time.
Yes mate, always been a good bike! That engine is loads of fun!
The Street Twin looks great! 😀
loved the video. I own a 2018 Street Twin myself and ride about 15 mi./day on it to the office and back home. I used to own scooters (Vespa 300 Super) and wanted to move up to a more powerfull (and cool) bike. I mostly do city traffic here in Santiago (Chile) and love the acceleration and torque of the bike, leaving everyone behind me quickly. Bike Is narrow enought to cut lanes with it. Could not be happier. Agree with you with the front brakes. It takes time to get use to them, so as to brake enough but not too hard activate the ABS. Traction control has prooven very useful as well , for driving on wet cobblestone streets!
I've had the Street Scrambler for 3 years now and still love the bike for the kind of riding I do now (mostly local, mostly B roads, countryside and urban). I had a GS1200 for 10 years before that - a Teutonic masterpiece but too heavy and unwieldy (and, personal opinion, not exactly beautiful...). Sold it for the Scrambler and it was like changing your Alsatian for a Labrador - I use it for 'walks' everyday, it's friendly, powerful enough, always keen, and just - so - much - fun - to - ride! I also think it's a beautiful looking machine and it gives me a lot of aesthetic pleasure. Long trips and European jaunts I stick an MRA screen on, side pannier and Lomo bag on the back - deals with the wind and luggage issues. The only gripe I have is the front brake, as you mentioned. I've even considered swapping out for the 2019 four pot but way too expensive. Great channel. Always enjoy watching.
Ok not a Street Twin but the T100 Black, so same engine etc.. It looks great, good around town, bullet proof engine, frame etc.. I've ridden mine from Scotland to Vladivostok then on to Vancouver and finally the Florida Keys. So town to autobahn, to potholed russian highways to gravel roads- so I'd say it can pretty much do most things!
I've been riding my street twin for four years now day in day out, and love it but it has not yet gone a hole year without breaking down in some way. Throttle controller, ABS controller, loom breaks etc. not to mention recall for dodgy fuel pump and there is water in the clock. Had to change the fork springs to stop the excessive dive under breaking, changed the rear shocks because they were awful and a de-cat to make it pick up and run better, apart from that its all good. Never found the brakes to be an issue and I kept the stock pipes because they just look right. Fuel consumption is good and as you say great around towns and lanes. A bit buzzy on the throttle hand on long runs and the lack of a sixth gear is a shame, but they have to sell the 1200s don't they. Great vid, hope I will see more.
Found a hell of a deal on a '22 with literally 20miles on it for just over $7k I couldn't pass it up. Absolutely love the bike. Love it. I'm absolutely having a blast putting around my neighborhood getting used to riding again and can't wait to be a bit more comfortable to hit some other roads.
Got a low mileage 2016 ST, to be honest I have thought of other bikes but can't justify....Mainly town riding or run to the coast a few times per year....still puts a smile on my face that low end torque is ace....
Mine is the 2016 and I still love it everyday..it has 20k miles but still runs strong.
Great blog. Articulate and well reasoned. Why am I watching this at 4am?’ 🤣 You have a new subscriber sir. 👍🇬🇧
street twin is my first MC .. bought the 17 model late 16 .. I love this machine .. Tried several others but you are really spot on .. It is just so nimble and yet so powerfull .. the 1200 engines has that extra gear for motorways but I have gotten used to the sound of the twin at high speed and it does 130-40 quite well .. 110 is easy peasy and quick too .. It is a really great .. I am not going to sell mine I simply like it to much :)
Hi, had my street twin for 2 years and 10,000 miles had to have it rewired after electrics to LCD panel, indicators and heated grips packed up. Apparently all due to the factory making the loom about 3 cm too short. Also, head bearings needed replacing... dealer said they were made from cheese. Luckily all done under warranty.
Great vids man! Your vids helped me decide to buy my first bike, a ST '19 mat ironstone. Feels like a perfect beginner bike but also a bike to keep for years. Just looking at it is an experience
The ironstone finish is so nice! Wish it was available when I bought mine
@@motobob if you have to choose: street twin or street scrambler 2021? I have a problem to decide, heeeelp :)
Thx
Done a fair bit with my 2016 ST...the front end is much better now after fitting the floating disc from the S Cup, better pads and Tec fork springs.
Pretty much spot on dude. I've had mine since 2017, and it happily co exists with my little Vespa, so best of both worlds I guess. I would like better brakes though, couldn't agree with you more on that one. That being said, I did do 3 trackday with it with California Superbike School!
Had my ST since 2016 and it suits me down to the ground. I always thought that if Triumph made a 250/300 version it would be a runaway winner, can't really see any reason why they don't.... it's not always about large CC.
I think 450 might be the sweet spot for a lower displacement version if they could get the pricing right.
@@Strideo1 I agree ☝️ like the early 1970’s Honda CB450 and CB500 models were ideal all around bikes that could do most everything really well .
I've been struggling for a couple of years between my NC750X, or one of the Triumph Twins or a Z900RS. I tried th eNC, T100 and Z/RS in 2018 and chose the NC for practical reasons/cost at that time. However, now I've ridden the T100, T120 and Speed but not the Street which strangely is the one I've come to home in on without riding for many of the logical reasons you have described. Your comparison of Street and Speed has helped keep my head in charge of heart (the Speed is certainly a great machine). I'd ridden the Z/RS 'by accident' at a dealer and have to say it it a great bike which has left me tempted - it shares a lot of the Speed Twin character, with the same more docile practicality of the Street. Heart and head are struggling hard this year to contemplate a change. -except the NC is actually a perfect bike...just lacking any character.
I’ve ridden the 700 and 750 NCs and I agree they’re really practical and good value but don’t really ignite the soul. I’m yet to get round to riding the Z900RS but I think I’d love it - must make it happen this year!
You are spot on regarding the primary consideration being HOW you ride. I had a beautiful Honda VTX bagger with all the highway uh....” motorway” accessories for long haul riding but the truth is I don’t care for all day rides and definitely prefer back road 1-3 hour lazy jaunts to motorway miles. I rarely ever road with a passenger and used those bags for an extra layer or pair of sunglasses more than anything and eventually sold that bike 3 years ago thinking my riding days were over. With the advent of Covid, this summer I bought my first Triumph...a little inexpensive 05 Speedmaster with the 865cc and I have to say I absolutely LOVE it. I put a nice Corbin solo seat and removed the bags and windscreen the previous owner gave me and giving her a much more stripped down look that I prefer. She’s got plenty of torque and can easily do 75-80 MPH all day long on the motorway if need be but she’s so brilliant and nimble on the little country lane twisties I prefer that I can’t imagine going back to a big highway bike again. Now it might be nice to leave the carbs behind so I am considering the new Speed Twin but for now this has been love at first sight!
Oh yes, it sounds like you're tending towards a GS ;0) Great vid as ever Rob...if the bike you have works why change? Plus, who doesn't love a Triumph eh?
Well I've got 2 kids now so it's about time I got a dad bike I guess? :)
@@motobob It happens to us all eventually, no need to fight it!!
@@motobob and what exactly is a dad bike huh? ;)
@@kenshiro882002 based on the people that ride them
1200GS
triumph tiger
super tenere
goldwing
K1600
etc.
Had mine 3 weeks now and have fallen in love with it . 😀👍🏍🇬🇧
I bought mine because it reminded me most of my Triumphs back in the 60’s when we removed the badges, added upswept megaphone mufflers, took off the front fender, changed the bars...and it sounds good, too, and hasn’t broken down yet!
LOVE my 2018 Street Twin. I got the windshield, luggage rack and saddlebags when I bought it new. I don't have an issue with speed on the highways, and have no issues keeping up with the big Harleys when we travel. The windshield makes all the difference at the higher speeds; 500-700 miles in a day is tough, but doable. We stay away from the interstate highways as it's small enough the large trucks can try to toss it around. Overall, it's a fun bike!
Great videos overall and excellent presentation. I cannot bring anything to the table right now as I have just last night bought a 2118 ST and collect it next week. I have had a long succession of Triumphs from back when Queen Victoria was a young girl (feels like it anyway) I have a 1973 T140V in mint condition, no rust or leaks, in the garage and its perfect in all aspects except my bionic right knee would not agree when I am kick starting. So I have been poring over tons of machine reviews for the past year. I am a Triumph "purist" in that I love the design. My Meriden T140V looks absolutely brilliant, but the modern Triumphs have somehow retained that iconic look and of course replaced all the very outdated bike components. My rides will be mostly urban and a bit of Norfolk countryside without the need to get anywhere in a great hurry. Also doing the Advanced Rider course where handling and ease of control at all speeds is useful. Not sure if I can part with the T140V, would need to go to someone who can appreciate it, but for now there will be two great bikes in the garage. Liam
1) Street twin
2) xsr700
3) cb650r
Got my m1 license and m2 scheduled. The street twin just went to the top of my list today.
Thank you for the vid 👍
You really spoke to me with the comment about the brakes. That's my only problem with most bikes, especially big ol heavy cruisers that only have single disk. If I were to buy a Bonnie, it'd have to be the Speed Twin (unless i find a smoking deal on a single-disk Bonnie like yours).
Hope all is well over there, MB! #staySAFEeveryone
I’m good mate! Hope you’re doing well too!
A very well thought out review! I appreciate the comparisons to the other bikes that you’ve had the chance to ride. A great balance between practicality and emotional/visceral feel for the machine! 👍
I've been doing a ton of mods to my Street Twin, thanks in part to your videos. I love the bike. I live in a very urban environment and with a few style upgrades, there's no other bike I'd rather have for splitting lanes, lane filtering, and commuting. With the TEC camshaft it has all of the performance of the T120 with the size and convenience of the Street Twin.
Where do you get your mods from?
@@triplethefun Motone and Baak, primarily. Got exhaust from Zard in Italy. Picked the rest from various places depending on if I liked the aesthetics or not
Wife has the 2019 Street Twin, so the one with the extra 10 hp and better brakes compared to the 2018 and earlier versions; she has relatively little trouble keeping up (more or less) with myself on my T120. I think Triumph got the latest version of the Twin 'right' - it added enough extra power (and stopping power) to address the only real outstanding issues that the model had; the new(er) ST with the extra power doesn't run out of breath as quickly as the older one, and my wife's noticed no issues riding it at higher speeds on the motorway. I tend to suggest most people either get a 2019+ model ST, or look to swap the brakes and cam on an older used one, as that really addresses the only true weak points of the earlier ST model.
Interesting video and well worth a watch. It will be interesting to see what you choose to do over the next few weeks/months.
Great review...still looks nice and happy to hear that it's still a good choice for certain applications.
A great informative video. Although I also love the Street Twin, I think the new Tiger 900 with its light and agileness, it’s comfort and practicality is a winner for me.
The street twin was my first motorcycle! One amazing first bike! Love it!
I currently use a ZZR 1200 Kawasaki sport touring bike that is used as a commuter. I changed the sprockets to lower my freeway rpm's by about 1000 rpm. I am usually traveling about 70 miles a day roundtrip. I am commuting from Syracuse to Salt Lake City in Utah, USA. I am interested in buying a Triumph. I had a 1966 Bonneville when I was younger and it brings back fond memories.
MB. You have the ideal bike for commuting around London, I'd be keeping it and buying an old rat bike
to commute,if that gets half-inched its no great loss, its less of a worry.
Howdy Bob, as you know I’ve had mine 4 yrs now, think it was first one bought in Rep of Ireland...don’t think i’ll ever get rid of it, tried so many times to justify trading it in for a T120 but simply not worth it(trade-in value abysmal)! I love modding and tinkering with it, just ordered a set of Heidenau K60’s and am always adding(or taking away bits)....it will be handed down to my son, it’s a cracking little bike. Perfect for city/urban riding and a Sunday country road spin.....Hope the family all well, keep the vids coming😃🍀JF
Trade is is a joke - always better to sell private and take the cash to the dealer IMO. More hassle dealing with buyers but worth it if you can be bothered. I’m thinking about the K60s too - the road tyres I’ve got at the moment look a bit lame. Let me know how you get on with them!
I'm thinking of buying this bike, but I worry a little about the weight and driving around city traffic. That's why I'm
also considering the new Kawasaki Z650 RS 2022 coming soon, also a very good looking bike.
Another fantastic video, I can see in a few years I may have outgrown mine. but for now commuting & fun its a perfect machine. Thanks for your great content
Cheers AH! Appreciate the support
@@motobob Very welcome, keep up the great work :)
You summed up my thoughts on my Street Scrambler pretty perfectly. I bought it as my first motorcycle and it’s been great to learn on and ride around the city and having the “off road capability” really started to peak my interest into off road riding. Well after riding local trails I’ve been pretty disappointed with how it handles on the dirt and I also feel bad taking it there as if it’s too pretty to be there and I have to worry more about dropping it with having the metal tank and all. I also just came back from my first motorcycle camping trip and the lack of luggage space was a killer. I like to think I packed pretty light and it’s not that I would pack more but being stuck to just a top bag with all my camping gear and then one side bag for my clothes, rain gear, skateboard. Tank bag for camera and all that it just became a huge hassle and tearing the bike apart every time I needed something. The engine held up ok on motorways but there was some sections through mountain passes where the speed limit is 120km/hr all steep up hill where the bikes fuel economy got ruined and I overall felt unsafe being passed by huge semi’s because it doesn’t have the grunt (6th gear really) that it needs to maintain highway speed for a long period of time. Even fitted with a Dart Flyscreen and BarkBusters being that exposed for that long through rain, hail, -5 at the top of mountains became too much and was the final nail in the coffin for me. The bike is fantastic like you said as a city commuter and for what I wanted as a first bike but since then my riding style has changed and I’m looking at trading for a T7 or Africa Twin ASAP.
Sounds like you pushed it to the limit! An adv definitely more suited - I enjoyed the Africa twin, but so much more £££ than the tenere
Great review! You spoke about how simple and practical the Street Twin is. Could you do a review of the RE Interceptor 650 for comparison?
I keep meaning to get round to it - I’ll try to soon!
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This is the best comparison between those 2 bikes
I have a 2019 ST so as they upgraded the suspension/ brakes + up 10hp, I haven't the same complaints as prior 2019 owners.
However the rest, positive and negative, I agree fully.
I have done some upgrades and the top two, that made a noticeable difference was adding the X pipe and changing the tyres. I had a new and better bike after these changes.
I have my street twin for 2 years now. I also did a lot modifications and still love it. I also own a harley sportster now, but this a different experience. nice to have both bikes. but if I had to I would sell the harley 🤔 maybe... 😅
I’d love a sportster too
Take a 2017 Street Twin, fit aftermarket fork springs, Fox shocks and springs, a tail tidy, a 39 or 40 tooth rear sprocket, Vance and Hines silencers, a 4-pot Brembo brake kit on the front, paint the headlight brackets and instrument bezel ring black, and paint the tank and side covers grey with metal flake. Maybe a mini windscreen. If you ride early spring or late fall, add heated grips. That would be my perfect bike.
Sounds pretty sweet!
Do what I did, used ZeroSR 2018+, best commute bike ever...even better than scooters. This coming from someone that has commuted on scooters for the last 15years. Had a street twin a few years ago and it felt like too much work to commute or twisty mountain rides.
This is why I love my Triumph Scrambler. It's not fast but it sounds and looks cool.
Haha you summarised my 10+ minute in a sentence basically
I’ve got a 2016 Street Twin and it suits me as a new rider.It’s not too powerful.The breaks are okay.I’ve thought about getting the Bremen upgrade.I like that I can flat foot the bike and it doesn’t feel to high.I love it overall.I’ve always wanted a Triumph Boneville .
I smell another new adventure bikes lover 😎.
We have to figure out what we want the bike for (?), like you did knowing most of your riding is in town. Are we taking a pillion? Are we doing long distance touring? Do we want to keep to a simple bike? Does it have to be light? I now have a Speed Twin, but if I wasn’t taking a pillion then a smaller capacity bike would be good. For long distance touring with pillion and luggage I’d go for a R1250RT. I once had a 2013 air cooled R1200RT, which couldn’t be beaten for comfort and wind protection; but i traded because i knew my riding would become more local. The Tiger 900 is practical and safe, but i don’t like the looks of them... So the Speed Twin is a great compromise for the moment.
270 degree crankshaft sounds like a 90 degree V-twin, my Griso 8V for instance.
My mate got one as a courtesy bike when his Street Triple RS was in for a service. HATED it ... underpowered, low on torque (for a 900 twin), poor bite point on clutch, didn't get on with its aesthetics, etc. Gave me a shot on it and I really liked it. I think he was comparing apples and oranges and expecting them to be the same. Whereas I (with a lot more m/c experience than he's got) had no preconceptions and judged it on what it was and what it's built for. If I lived in a big city and did a lot of commuting and in town work, I could live with this bike NO PROBLEM ... and it looks really good too.
I personally am a BMW boxer guy but oh, and I hope my fellow BMW guys don't roast me for this, that thing is beautiful it sounds awesome. A 1200 cc motor tuned for high-torque I'm sure is reminiscent of the boxer but with 120 degree crank having the Thump Thump Thump of a V-Twin my goodness that bike is cool. I Can Only Imagine you have to feel cool ride in that bad boy around
And we get to play with the chain every other day and reset it every 500 to 700 miles .... :)
I love the ergonomics of the speed and street twin. Good video and comparison! And ever since @TheMissendenFlyer did some videos on the twin, I've wanted one. :D
Had a street twin for 2 years, same model as yours upgraded to a T120 12 months ago. Was looking for a bit more power, better brakes and more weight for freeway riding (Australia). Still love the T120.
Yeah I must admit I kind of wish I’d gone for the t120 sometimes...
Really Useful points. I love the twin sound and the type of bike, its where Im at home. I really like the balance of usability and passion of this Bonny, its also a very clean design and the only thing I miss is the dual clocks which Id pay more for but not important either. Such a useful review/2 year update, I might be buying this in the next 12 months, noice, thankyou!
I have a 2022 Street Twin. I love it. Now that I’m a bit less off a noob I find myself wishing I could go faster, but honestly the ST is plenty even for passing on the highway. I’ve done a lot of customizations and will probably never get rid of it because it’s perfect for commuting, but will probably get a second faster bike for more spirited fun.
Have an old 865 SE and like you say love the fact I can push it to limit flickable , 17 “ front wheel. Looked at speed and street and wondering if realistically street enough.?? For a change up listed 865 on eBay but took off as didn’t want to part! The new tiger is a terrific comfort mobile. I have a Versys 650 with full luggage under 7k. Might suit your needs? Great all rounder.
just picked up my 2020 Speed Twin and put Nitron shocks on front and rear. SO MUCH better. Its probably the most Soulful Triumph I've ever owned, and so ridable as an everyday round towner OR longer country rides. I've even tour on it
Thanks for your review and looking forward for a comparison of Street twin and Speed Twin......❤️❤️❤️❤️
Nice to have review to reinforce my impulse buy 3 years ago after a 30 year absence from riding . I’ve enjoyed every minute of riding around and likewise only do urban and B road riding but always come back with a smile on my face . I had to change the mirrors to bar end as standard were useless for a chunky chap and the seat for a bench seat . This made the world of difference as now I sit on the bike and not in it and in my opinion improved the handling. There are a few other cosmetic modifications . Like you I’ve considered a Speed Twin and would like one but I don’t think I would benefit from the extra performance and I still love the ST . So it’s a keeper and I will do a few more modifications like your headlight .
Great channel. I've had my Street Twin for 2 years and you nailed it on the positives and negatives. Still love the bike but looking to upgrade to something that has more high speed/high distance ability for 20% of highway riding and trips here in the States. How's the Moto Guzzi V85TT?
I’ve had it 2 years, pretty much kept stock for most of it. Cosmetic changes, just wraps on the bars from Trip Machine. Now considering Tec Bike Parts mods like their shorter pipes that sound much better than stock. I’ve been through the luggage capacity dilemma. Currently using Lomo waterproof saddlebags which are great for the price although they aren’t the best in looks. Super functional. I prefer not to wear a backpack. Agree they’re not the best for motorway. I did a 170 mile loop to Daventry for volunteer delivery and it was do-able but not the most comfortable experience. Still no compelling reason to change bikes or upgrade. Most of my riding is in town and lower than motorway speeds. I barely get out of 1st with most of London increasingly capped at 20mph. I think i will keep tweaking this one as the potential for the engine is there with some mods like suspension, pipes, decat, and camshaft. I did have one annoying thing happen. I overturned the right side rear suspension preload adjustment beyond the 5th position and ‘fell off a cliff’. Between the chain and pipe, there isn’t much room to move and I’m unable to turn it back. I’m going to try to use a strap wrench to continue turning it all the way around, which i can’t do with the tool they provide.
I’m new to the channel, I subscribed after watching you on bru time with tea pot. Your reviews are quality!
I battle with question of a more touring oriented bike vs. city. City oriented you have a some really cool looking options like your street twin. In the end the more practical adventure style (SUV of bikes) will likely win. Cb500x is a good fit for what I need (country roads and some highway) but the versus 650 and tenere 700 would also work. Being cheap, the 500x will likely win.
The 500X looks like a cracking bike I agree. Proper utilitarian setup - cheap and practical. I’ll try to get hold of one
@@motobob That would be great! Loved this video you just posted. I think all of us were waiting for an update on your beautiful twin!
Was in a similar boat with the type of riding but quite like the street focused twins, ended up giving up the street twin for a desert sled.. it is an improvement in some ways, making it more motorway suitable has yielded mixed results (can't find a decent screen!) but the extra power and braking is great. I imagine its a lighter, tamer scrambler 1200..
Super review.
Have you ever faced any Gear Box issues with you Street Twin? Gears getting stuck from 2nd to 3rd?
Please do comment, Thanks.
This is going to sound odd but try the BMW f750 gs(or any equivalent) . I had the old 800gs & and now the 700gs and what I learned was that the smaller 19 inch rim is ALOT better for your in town driving. I would imagine that it would tick every box you mentioned in the video. 21 inch front wheels are very hard to navigate in town.
I need to check the new one out. I rode the 650 some time ago and loved it!
Sold my 2015 Scout coz it was going to kill me as I couldn't quite get the hang of dismounting to help it round corners. Took a T120, 3 x Street Twins and a Ducati Scrambler for test rides.
Bought a 2016 Street Twin. Mods - X chain, Tec X pipe with std mufflers( don't adhere to "loud bikes save lives", paying attention does) , 1 tooth bigger front sprocket, affixed 70s tank badges and knee pads and T120 mirrors as std even with narrow shoulhers had to mobe sideways to check for traffic.
I then sold it when I became unemployable in 2018 with 2 sets of tyres and 23,000km under my belt.
July 2020, bought it back again with 27,000km on the clock and added Givi saddle bag racks today. If I can't find a way to affix something cheaper than Givi bags, I'll have to bite the bullet.
I would like to fit mid-late 60s tank rack, bar end mirrors, as long as I can find some that do the job, tec cam and maybe a belt drive, maybe paint the mudguards and headlight shell silver, oh, and am looking into whether it's possible to fit a Street Scrambler single seat and rack.
Never had problems with handling or braking. One of the few gripes is milky film left on black engine after riding in the rain.
Scrambler seat and rack won't fit, rear part of the frame is different. If you fit the belt drive conversion you will be back to std gearing so maybe find out if the T120 or Bobber belt conversion fits if you want to maintain the higher gearing.
I have a top box and windshield on mine. Heated grips too for the pacific nw. I haul so much on my bike.
A lot of the things you like about riding the street twin, two year’s on, are the same things I like about riding it on the backroads of Virginia. weight, wheelbase, torque, maneuverability. Don’t count it out on gravel, and it is quick up a twisty hill.
Great Vid. Had my street twin just over a year. Ridden it into London from Kent pre-lock down commute and it's hard going on motorway for 30+miles. Since covid relaxed, I've been heading out into the lanes and countryside - and I really want something that spins up quicker for a more dynamic ride. But can't justify a street triple.. yet! So just customising the street twin for now.
I’ve been considering mods from Tec, like pipes, suspension etc. What are you planning on yours?
Great video your street twin looks fantastic stay safe 🇬🇧👍🏻
Cheers RP
Good vid. My partner has been considering a 2019 Street Twin for her next bike and all the points you mentioned suggest it could be a good fit for her.
I'd be interested to hear if you considered the Tracer 700 or 900, or Tiger Sport for longer journies.
You should also try and consider the new Honda CB 500 X, for your weekend rides. I suppose it will perform very well in London too.