I never thought about the whole "The British Actors are the only ones who give good performances in the Prequels". Maybe that's why they cast Daisy Ridley and John Boyega as the leads in the Sequel Trilogy.
And funny enough both Daisy Ridley and Finn give excellent performances, no joke some of the best acting I’ve seen in a Star Wars film, ESPECIALLY Daisy Ridley in TLJ, Adam Driver is also giving such a good performance in the trilogy.
1:25 NO, Stormtroopers are NOT Clonetroopers and NO, this was not removed from canon by Disney as this fact is still present within canon material as confirmed by Disney. Most Clonetroopers were retired from service soon after the Emperor came into power. Even if you only go by the films, nothing suggests that Stormtroopers are clones. Heck, if that was true, the whole Luke in a Stormtrooper disguise bit wouldn't work as they would know he was an impostor based on his small height. But we don't need to theorize in that manner because the canon material outside of the films make it as clear as day.
+Fryday ", nothing suggests that Stormtroopers are clones." Where in the movies does it say the clone troopers != stormtroopers? They are clearly introduced deliberately to make that connection, and they look very, very similar.
Where is this explained in the movies? I'm not being a twat; I don't recall a reference in the movies to the facility in Kamino being closed down, so it's not unnatural to think that the Ep IV-VI stormtroopers are the same as the Clone Troopers introduced so obviously in Ep II.
I draw it from some points: 1- Jango Fett was dead, so his DNA would eventually run out or be harder to replicate every time(which was mentioned in the animated series) 2- Clone troopers aged very quickly due to the need of making an army real fast, so using them for a steady army instead of a war would be very expensive and useless at the end. 3- Storm troopers have distinct voices and heights, otherwise Luke and Han would haven't been able to disguise as them No, is not touched upon in the movies, but some logic thinking can give you the hint. Of course, first you have to give a crap about the prequels, which I don't blame anyone if they don't
"George, you can type this shit, but you sure as hell can't SAY it!" - Harrison Ford to George Lucas over some creative differences during the original trilogy.
That story is so taken out of context. This is what really happened: www.cinemablend.com/news/1702860/what-really-happened-when-harrison-ford-gave-george-lucas-crap-on-set
My dvd of Attack of the Clones got damaged so it skipped everything but the action scenes. Not kidding. So I used to wonder why it was so hated since it was the most exciting movie. Then one day the DVD broke for good so I got a new one and realized how wrong I was.
So, in other words, when you have to watch the movie in full, including the scenes that don't have action in them, where you actually have to turn your brain on and not just marvel at special effects, is when your opinion of it goes down? Well, this film wasn't made for people like you in the first place.
@@MrZackavelli I was a kid when I owned that DVD. When you're a kid you often skip past all the "boring talking parts" to the actions scenes anyways. But because this movie, from my memory, had only the fun action scenes my kid brain created positive memories surrounding it and was confused when people called it the boring one. Watching it in full as an adult I realized how a majority of the movie is a terribly written romance. Attack of the Clones is not what I would call "intellectually stimulating". This is a film where a woman tells a man his constantly gazing at her makes her uncomfortable, has to explain to him why dictatorships are bad, finds out he massacred an entire village including all the children and decides at the end of this film "yeah I want to marry this man".
+Qua When I was a kid and grew up with Jango thinking he is the ultimate badass, and then saw Boba just kinda stand there until he dies, I pretty much hated boba.
***** The Republic imposed high taxation of the Trade Federation, who in protest began a blockade of Naboo Basically an equivalent of the Boston Tea Party It all just escalates from there onward
direct quote from lucas on the set of phantom menace ""can you do that again but do it more Jedi like"" yep that's some great directions work there george.
+permeus2nd well if you think about it, why would jedi be super outgoing and charismatic? their pretty much monks. being stoic would be very much expected from them.
+Ziggerath and that's why it fails, you don't make your leads into emotionless robots, no matter the lore justification, cause it's fucking boring and unrelatible to our entire species as a whole
+DarthRushy Worst part is if you watch Clone Wars these same characters get proper personalities and are sympathetical just because he did not get direct control of the show.
There are 3 blockbuster movies that George Lucas needed to see in order to make the romance between Anakin and Padme good - Batman Returns, The Mask of Zorro and Titanic. Even though the writing wasn't always the best, the romantic leads in all of them had perfect chemistry and worked magnificently off each other. Also, when I think of what Anakin Skywalker was like before he became Darth Vader, I imagine someone like Thor from the first Thor movie or Chris Pine's James Kirk - both of them are cocky, but are also very likable and evolve to become better people. If Luke Skywalker was Captain America, then Anakin definitely needed to be Thor. Instead, we got Edward Cullen. Thanks, George.
I can see you are a marvel fan and that's why you are comparing the two, but Darth Vader never acted like thor. He had no charisma, but was smart and strong. He could get things done and was powerful. I think he would be a talented man that would be angrier and angrier of the useless of the Jedi order. But that romance was not good at all, it was awkward. We got what I thought anakin would be but he failed in performance and romance. I like Hayden Christensen, but I think that he was not given a good character to develop until the third movie.
Therealmadkong I don't blame Christensen, either. Oh, and Anakin was even worse in Episode III - he was in full Superboy Prime mode by the end of the movie. Speaking of which, if you find Anakin's dialogue painful in these 2 films (just like everyone else does), do as I do - just imagine his dialogue in Superboy Prime's voice. Not only is it surprisingly less whiny, but it's also fucking hilarious.
The writing for the romance in The Mask of Zorro and Titanic were some of the best ever. It may be overdone in the latter b/c of its running time, but the romantic moments go beyond what's required of the actors. Think about the most memorable scenes in both films: Zorro had the church confession, tango, duel in the barn, etc... while Titanic had the "flying", drawing, handprint on the window, etc... sequences. All Lucas had were two people just talking about their feelings. Which is incredibly dull compared to Han constantly hitting on Leia as she tries to resist.
***** I was referring to Titanic and the running time with my statement. But yes, you're absolutely right - watching Jack and Rose's scenes after he saves her, we get to know more about their characters and we get more invested in them, and all the moments you pointed out are spot-on. Same goes for The Mask of Zorro, which is a movie I just adore.
+D Vass that's not what Anakin is supposed to be though. Never was what he was supposed to be. Anakin isn't cool or smooth or a confident ladies man like James Kirk or Thor. He's a geek. He's an awkward nerd, far more relatable and interesting than either of the Mary Sue's you mentioned, and with a personality that makes far more sense given that he's a dorky teenager raised by celibate, emotion-restricting warrior monks who hasn't seen a girl in 10 years and are in LOVE with a girl who you're forbidden to be in love with, you would be just as awkward and dorky. Given that, Anakin & Padme had perfect chemistry. Your fundamental misunderstanding of the character of Anakin does not a bad character make.
I know that others have pointed it out, but the Clones do NOT become the Stormtroopers. The Clones are essentially super soldiers born and bred for war, which is why they're so effective at pretty much everything they do. Between RotS and A New Hope, they began phasing out Clones and replacing them with recruits for a variety of reasons: too expensive, they needed more soldiers than the Clones could provide, some Cloning facilities were being taken over by separatists and used against the Empire. It's actually one of the things I really like: there's a legitimate canon reason for why the Stormtroopers suck so much. But yeah, I really like RotS, and I even forgive Phantom Menace, but I CANNOT defend this movie. It's the worst of the bunch by a huge margin.
The King of Queen The Stormtroopers are actually still alive when knocked down mostly. Did you forget the very first scene of Star Wars or at the hoth base where they slaughter the rebels?
+Apothecary2 it's awkward, since the armor can protect them from lasers but not from ewoks' arrows. And even if the heroes have plot armor, at the very least they could try to aim properly instead of just shooting from the waist.
Brandon Lyon My guess is, since they have the Clones on their side, Droids are pretty much completely obsolete now. They would just be a waste of resources.
Fun fact: Hayden Christensen tried to convince George Lucas to change the script, but Lucas shot him down. The actors aren't bad, but man, the script is just awful.
Cheapsunglasses The script of every Star Wars movie has always been awful. And anyone who says differently regarding the original trilogy have their nostalgia goggles on. Even Alec Guinness who played in actual GOOD movies that are considered masterpieces, went on record of saying the script of A New Hope was just flat-out bad.
@@cinemaslut9034 that's not what Guinness said. He said when he got the script he didn't like the dialog, but he said he had to keep reading it, invested in the story. He was more annoyed by kids' obsession with it. Yes the dialog is silly, but the story is captivating. And EMPIRE, while it also has it's silly moments, is certainly not awful by any stretch of the imagination.
Who are people getting hung by the fact that he made the Storm Trooper mistake? If you only watched the films how are you going to pick up on that fact since they don't make the distinction? Aside from that my biggest problem with the film is how forgettable it is. I can only remember two things from this film and that's geonosis and kamino. Not any scenes just the two planet and not in film but rather because they're my favourite levels in battlefront. Thats what this film is to me.
That’s a great point. When I only watched the movies, I thought they were storm troopers as well. Hell, even Episode 3 didn’t go into detail about the transition to storm troopers.
There's 2 scenes I enjoy throughout the entire film, the death sticks scene and the Jango Fett fight since it was kinda refreshing to see some hand to hand combat in Star Wars
Well I've heard his fellow friends and filmmakers said he should direct his films when Lucas was looking for a director for TPM. And that unlike ANH, the directing chair became very more fun and less stress inducing.
Michael Jordan admitted that Kobe could beat him one-on-one. Is this proof that Kobe was better than Jordan? George is a humble guy. He's not above acknowledging his flaws as a director. Literally every director has a weak point.
Corentin Pousset-Bougère Precisely. Regardless of what Lucas tried to retcon, tFA has nailed down what they are. Hurrah for legitimate canon material fixing things!
Except they were made to look extremely similar, and they never explained that. Hell they never explained it in RoTS. So we’re left to that conclusion. Ps don’t say it was explained more in The expanded universe. If the movie can’t explain it, the the director has failed.
I'm actually surprised that Doug didn't comment on the fist fight with Jango Fett on Kamino or the Jedi battle in the Genosian Execution Arena. Those were some pretty cool action scenes along with the Yoda and Count Dooku lightsaber fight. While I do agree with Doug that ATTACK OF THE CLONES is the weakest of the STAR WARS movies, I wouldn't necessarily call it terrible or dull. The action is still pretty awesome, the designs for the alien creatures and planets still amaze me (I don't care if it's all CGI, as unlike most people, I haven't trained my eyes to detect them; plus, there is photographic evidence of there being actual model work blended in with the Visual effects), and I do like the backstory introduced for the Stormtroopers. I think what makes this one the weakest for me is that unlike TPM, which took you almost immediately into the action, this one felt slower paced and less engaging at points. I do still enjoy it though, despite its flaws (yes, even the Anakin and Padme romance, as while the dialogue is definitely cheesy at points, I feel that it was going for a "ROMEO AND JULIET" type inspiration, and Shakespeare's lines would sound weird by modern standards as well...) Doug does bring up some interesting points though, as how you could easily just skip right ahead to ROTS, as that's the movie that fully explains how Anakin turns to the dark side. I may not completely agree as I do actually like TPM and AOTC, but it is an interesting argument nonetheless. And I also love how he says that the British actors are the ones who give the best performances in the prequels. That actually got a laugh out of me as I've always thought that having a British Accent always elevated an actor or character's credibility or humor, and I'm glad to see that I'm not the only one who has noticed that! So while I do still like ATTACK OF THE CLONES and the rest of the prequel trilogy, I have to give Doug Walker credit for providing a his own unique thesis on these films as they actually feel new and fresh, whereas most of the prequel haters just whine and complain about the same things over and over and over again! This is how you do a negative critique on the prequels correctly in my opinion: provide a fair and balanced analysis without mindless bashing or ranting. That way, even people who do enjoy the prequels can be entertained by these reviews despite not agreeing with them.
I don't agree with Doug when he said the visuals were boring at all, besides the 50's style bar, that was a good point. But I agree that just like episode 1, true had WAY too much political talking and not the kind of interesting political talking. Episode II is somewhere below an ok movie for me. Like in between a D- and a C-
"I don't care if it's all CGI, as unlike most people, I haven't trained my eyes to detect them" Exactly. I don't buy this "it sucks because you know it isn't there". What does it even mean? Watching animated movies must really suck for these people. Every movie special effect requires suspension of disbelief because you know it's not real. It's a god damn movie! It's all seems to me like snobism for old shit.
Bexebeche Whenever some one throws the bullcrap CGI argument, I just like to play the ED WOOD clip, "What do you know?! Haven't you ever heard of suspension of disbelief?!"
Attack of the Clones was the first Star Wars movie my Dad took me to see and we BOTH fell a sleep in the theater. we woke up in time for the cool lightsaber battles at the end though. later that day my Dad just brought out the original trilogy DVDs and we just watched those.
***** Eh, I suppose so. Personally, the reason I don't like them is not that they failed as Star Wars movies, but that they failed as movies in general. There's just so much terrible writing, plot holes, boring and uninteresting political talk, and mind-numbing Michael Bay action scenes that I honestly couldn't care less about anything that happens. Even the characters, always the most important part of an adventure movie, were awful. Obi Wan was an idiot, Anakin was a whiny little bitch, you could replace Padme with a piece of toast!
I feel bad for you and your dad..it must have been such a disappointment to waste your money on a shit movie like this and witness such awful acting and boring characters...
+Alucard BloodyVampire I think he meant that it was hard to care resulting in hard to follow, but same as a kid I didn't mind at all ... but yeah kids don' have a big sense of criticism they just kinda sit there and enjoy what's to be enjoyed I think. (What's that anime again ? I remember the abridged is funny af tho)
Luffyrulz09 Eh, I didn't care much for that, either. Not as bad as any of the prequels, but not as good as it was built up to be. Still, that's just my opinion. If you like TFA, that's fine.
yes the TFA it did play it a bit to safe and by the numbers but to be honest I think it had to be that way with a re launch you have to get the ball rolling before you can soar and they did that now the real test is what they do for the future films
well, sort of. The Stormtroopers are still predominantly clones, but their rapid aging process has made them less effective in combat, so an increasing percentage of them are volunteers and/or draftsmen, both situations being the reason why Stormtroopers are practically cannon fodder in the original trilogy while they were machine-efficient killers in the prequels.
"[Hayden Christiansen] did a fine job with the material given to him. He's a good actor, kids--leave him alone. Sir Laurence Olivier couldn't read these shitty lines!" ~ Harry S. Plinkett
Dear people born before 1978, When you were young you fell in love with star wars. You loved the world you loved the fights, you loved the characters. What didn't you love? The crappy dialogue? The half-decent acting? No! You loved star wars; the universe. When you grew up you began to realize that you wanted to relive that time when star wars excited you, when it was perfect because you were too young to see it as anything else. Let me explain to you how one could like movies like these: Cue Episode 1. I was 2 years old when it came out and I was 5 years old when I saw it. This film had everything I wanted to see in it. I loved the big fish chasing the Jedi, I loved the Gungan battle verses the droid, I even loved seeing a little boy be a hero. And of course I skipped the boring talking parts. Episode 2 blew my fucking mind. It was exciting, it was bigger, it was louder, it was insane, I loved every second of it. Lightsabers were my fantasy! I bought all the plastic lightsabers I could find and had duels with my friends and my dad every chance I got. I bought a clone trooper helmet and ran around with a gun pretending to be an advanced tactical soldier. I watched that movie a dozen times when I was young (again, skipping the boring parts). By now I had seen episodes 4, 5, and 6. And I liked them a lot because I liked the space battles, they were kinda....meh. Where was the fast paced lightsaber duels? Where was the giant armies fighting the giant armies? I didn't want to see Luke kill a monster with a door, I didn't want to see him standing on his head in a jungle. The only parts I really liked where when spaceships fought each other, like on the death star trench. Episode 3, once again, blew my fucking mind, I was 9 years old. The clones troopers were officially the most badass, merciless, skilled special forces of all time. And AGAIN the lightsaber battles were amazing. I remember trying to hold 4 lightsabers at once in both hands like General Grevious and fighting like that. Being a little older I understood the drama behind Anakin's character and the conflict between him and Obi-Wan, and it made me sad, it pulled me into the movie THAT MUCH MORE. I was an enormous fan of star wars from when I was 5 to when I was 15 and I didn't grow up on the original trilogy. To me: star wars is Clone Troopers and Jedi. I can't say this review is unfair, but I'd like you to take a look at the prequels from a child's perspective and understand that even though we make fun of and shun them, they ARE star wars to many people, and that is not a bad thing.
These movies are just Revenge of the Sith Origins. all they do is set up Anakin/Darth Vader, Obi-Wan, the clones/stormtroopers, and Overall how the Empire came to be.
I gave Attack of the Clones another watch and it was not as bad as I thought it was because the last time I saw it, I was only 9 and saw only the best bits. It was hugely better then Phantom Menace which has been bumped down to my LEAST FAVORITE, not the worst. I don't know where you get your facts Doug, but the duels are not the only thing I remember and like about Attack of the Clones. Yes, I love the duels, but the arena battle, that bar scene in your top 11 good prequel moments, the mystery of Sypho Dias, the origin of Boba Fett, the MUSIC by John Williams, the deterioration of the republic from the inside. I love all those moments. There's even a scene where Poggle gives Dooku the plans to the Death Star.
Facepalm! *The clone troopers are NOT stormtroopers!* Also there's plenty of character development in this movie, much more than in the entire OT. It's just not in-your-face obvious.
+Verebazs Yea but it's awkward and unbelieveable. Padme rejects Anikan and says he will always be like the little kid from Tatoiine, but in then he says some bullshit about sand and BAM she falls in love with him. Also why the fuck did he freak out on Obi One for like no reason?
LuiError 1: Oh yeah, because the bullshit of Leia falling for Han after he forced himself on her is not awkvard and unbeliveable... 2: The sand monologe as narmy as it was, does give a lot of information. Anakin associates sand with Tatooine, which is a horrible place. Naboo is practically a paradise, from where an angel came from. Yeah it sounds terribly corny, but have you read any love poems from the 19th and even mid-20th century? 3: Padmé doesn't fall inlove with him because of that line. It's unfortunate that some of the better scenes between the two ended up being cut.
But where in the movies themselves does it establish that storm troopers aren't clone troopers? I bet you that if you got a kid to watch all the Star Wars movies in order, they would assume that the troops from III are the same as IV, because that's obviously what George was trying to imply or set up.
vsGoliath Did you miss the part about the clones aging twice as fast as normal? Or that Jango Fett was required to stay mostly on Kamino, in order to continue provide genetic material for the creation of new clones, which is pretty hard after he got himself killed? Or that several stormtroopers in the OT are very visibly different in height?
Oh come on Doug, this movie wasn't that boring. Remember the scene where Anakin yelled at Padme about how he slaughtered all the Tuskin Raiders including the women and the children? Cracks me up every time.
The reason why Episode I and II are there is because it has to show exactly when and how the seeds of Anakin's downfall and Palpatine's rise to power occurred. Palpatine's plans are subtle and not attention grabbing. He's the spider making the web to trap everyone. The chess master who can wait patiently. If you follow Palpatine and Darth Sidious alone, the whole politics makes sense. Episode I: Darth Sidious convinces the Trade Federation to invade his home planet of Naboo and force the Queen to sign the treaty for promise of power and wealth. He does so to make the Chancellor look weak and then make Senator Palpatine look sympathetic for election as Chancellor. Episode II: Darth Sidious through Count Dooku formed a rouge Separatist faction to engineer a crisis involving a droid army so large that not even the Jedi could wipe them out. Then he convinces the Senate to grant him emergency powers of direct control to deal with the crisis and then "reluctantly" use the clone army that the Jedi discovered to protect the Republic.
+TheGhostbuster1989 I wouldn't call it amazing. I grew up with it and I still love it, but it took a few seasons to get good, and even after that it still has some problems that piss me off. The good guys always won, most of the villains were pretty lame until the last couple seasons, and it always seemed like the show couldn't figure out who it's audience was, some episodes are very juvenile and silly and appealed to younger kids, and others were dark and gritty and clearly meant for an older audience. (The brain worms episode nearly made me shit my pants in fear when I was a kid.). Also, it was always bouncing around the timeline which made it hard to follow.
When Doug brought up the whole thing about Episodes 1 and 2 being pointless, I remember having an incredibly similar conversation with a friend of mine regarding the prequels. I pretty much said they could've amalgamated the Anakin-focused material from the first two prequels into Revenge of the Sith, since it was pretty clear that the prequels were showing Anakin's life before becoming Darth Vader. And as for the other stuff that went down, The Phantom Menace and Attack of the Clone could've been TV miniseries rather than movies. That way, Lucas could've had more time to develop the characters and stories. Hell, if they were miniseries, we could've gotten better development of Obi-Wan and his history before meeting and during his time mentoring Anakin. Not sure if the results would've been better, but for me personally, it would've been a more promising format for the prequels.
Doug, the stormtroopers in episode 4 are actually recruited people, the clones have been decommissioned between episode 3 and 4. it's explained in star wars rebels :)
Jesus these 3 mistakes in this video are making me cringe. 1. Jedi's cannot form attachments because they can lead to negative emotions (the dark side) when what they love is threatened. 2. Only the first stormtroopers were the leftover clones. After the 3rd movie all new stormtroopers were recruited humans. 3. The clones have a New Zealand accent
+Skarlet People can't tell the difference between a new zealand accent and a fake approximation of an australian accent. These people think the accent for the clones in The Clone War is actually decent.
+Skarlet Remember who's making this video. This is the guy who couldn't tell when Jim Cummings was doing someone's singing voice...twice. He's the guy who didn't know that not all sailors could swim, and didn't know the the demon from Fantasia's name is Chernabog.
+vsGoliath "Padme is the mother of Princess Leia, therefore she is a queen." *is no longer queen* * dies at childbirth*. "It was called the clone wars because the jedi were fighting the clones" *clones and jedi fighting on the same side the entire war* "Yoda was the master who taught Obi Wan Kenobi" *Qui-Gon Jinn is the master who taught Obi Wan* You done goofed, Lucas.
angelowl89 Actually,it is made clear. The Queen is an elected official in this universe and is usually painted up like a China Doll (ex. how Padme dressed in The Phantom Menace ). Considering she never wears that ridiculous getup throughout the 2nd and 3rd prequel (and the fact that Padme refers to herself as senator in the 2nd prequel), it's a safe bet that Padme is no longer a Queen after the first prequel.
I disagree for me the one that you can eliminate without missing anything is the Phantom Menace, that one is pointless in its entirety, however, in this one we get a glimpse of the Dark Side growing in Anakin, that for me is the best part of this movie. Also knowing how the clone army came to be is a neat detail from Lucas. Regarding the Diner scene, it's not completely out of place, it's like in Heat (1995), when De Niro hires the black dude as the getaway driver, at least that's how I saw it. Yoda's fight it's well executed, due to the hype building of the original trilogy of Yoda, just saying that someone is awesome or the strongest of all Jedis is worthless if you DON'T SHOW it.
+Karolus Magnus But we're already made aware of the dark side growing in Anakin in Episode III, and while we don't see how the Clone Army came to be in Episode III, we can still gather the whole idea of there being a Clone Army that later became the Storm Troopers (kind of). So Episode II is still pointless. It having some neat scenes/ideas doesn't make it necessary.
My thoughts on the Stormtroopers, being different from the Clone troopers is this: The original clones, were clones of Jango Fett; he was the host subject. But strands of DNA or whatever means the Kaminoens used to clone him can only go so far. Every now and then they would probably need to gather more DNA, which is why he had an apartment there. So over time, after his death they ran out of DNA to clone. Maybe they could have cloned a clone, but perhaps they wouldn't get the same results. So at one point the Empire began recruiting other people. You never see them take off their helmets so you wouldn't be able to see if they look the same.
I agree with almost everything you're saying. My only problem is that half of the plot points that you're saying don't make sense are actually explained very well. To be fair, I grew up with the prequels so I kind of memorized every single detail about the plot, but just because you didn't get it doesn't mean it wasn't explained.
@@godemperorofmankind3.091 "How is Palpatine controlling both the Republic and the Separatists?", "Why does Anakin have a wife when no other Jedi does?", "What happened to Anakin's arm?", etc.
@@MrZackavelli he lost it in the war. Jedi forbid attachment which Yoda explains. Sidious is secretly the leader because he gives Dooku and Grevious orders and was Dooku's master. if that is unclear, an extra line of dialogue would clean it up. when Sidious reveals himself, he can reveal to anakin "You think you're in control, boy? I played you all for fools. I am Count Dooku's master." or cut dooku out entirely. you dont need that character if we're re-editing this into a single prequel film. that whole first 20 minutes we dont really need.
I actually think Clones has one standout sequence that makes it better than Phantom or Sith. The Tatooine sequence. The whole thing is wonderful. You've got the location, you've got the set, the tone, the music, the dark side coming out of Anakin during the start of his tragedy... it's fantastic. It's the only part of the prequel trilogy I can say that I truly liked. Sith gets a free pass from everyone for being darker and more akin to what people want Ted to see. I don't care. It has the same horrible unrealistic dialogue, the same green screen fetish, the same stilted characters, the same forced tie-in story execution... it's the same. Fair enough that people like that one, but I don't. As for Clones, that Tatooine sequence almost makes the other 2 hours bearable. Almost.
I fucking hate Attack of the Clones. I detest everything about it. It really honest to God baffles me that there are trollers or just plain idiots on here that claim the Force Awakens is worse. To me that's like trying to argue that the Dark Knight Rises is worse then Batman and Robin. Force Awakens has only one problem in that it borrows to much from a New Hope, but it was otherwise well paced, well written, well acted, well directed with fun and likable characters. And no, Attack of the Clones doesn't get any points for being ''original'' since it fails in almost every other possible aspect of story telling. 1. The plot makes little to no sense and is unforgivably boring. Nothing in Clones is even remotely interesting to follow or care about. Despite not being as complicated and a tiny bit more focused then Menace it is somehow more of a chore to sit through. The whole plot is focused around some intergalactic space war building up against two forces we know nothing about. I honest to God still can't comprehend what was the point of this film. Clones doesn't add anything, doesn't advance anything. You could make the argument it shows how the Clone Wars started, but honestly we didn't need to. The Original Trilogy threw us right into the conflict with the Empire and the Rebels. We didn't need to know how it started just that's been happening for a while. Same thing should have been done with these Prequels. Just have the whole trilogy be about the Clone Wars. Or at the very least show us the start of the conflict with Episode I and end it with Episode III. That we we can have a better understanding of both sides of the conflict. 2. Almost a good half of these characters are either unlikable, boring or straight up annoying. Anakin has one character arc: a whinny little bitch that's it. It really baffles how people say Kylo is worse then Anakin. The reason why Kylo's angst works for his character is cause he's trying to live up to his grandfather and is in constant frustration that he won't be able to live up to him. It doesn't work for Anakin cause first off unlike Kylo he's not supposed to be a villain. He's meant to be our main character who we follow on his journey, the character whom we can care about or relate to. But throughout the whole he's just a constant, whinny, complaining asshole who never once shows any decent qualities. Plus there is no way a whinny, psychopathic asshole like Anakin can become cold, calculating military force like Vader was in the Originals. It amazes me why people like Mace Windu. He's probably the character in the Prequels that has the least amount of character out of them all. The only thing I can remember about Windu is that he's got a purple Lightsaber. That's it. Padme is once again underdeveloped and boring. Oh and extremely stupid. Purely because she's falls in love with a creepy whinny psychopath like Anakin Skywalker. 3. The dialogue is some of the worst in any Star Wars movie period. ''I don't like sand. It's course, rough and irritating, and it get's everywhere. Nothing feels naturally nor carry any emotion weight. Half the dialogue is nothing more then exposition for the audience. The only characters that are able to pull off some of these awful lines as Doug said are all the British actors. 4. There is no clear or developed villain whom we can understand or follow. Say what you will about Menace and the fact that Maul had next to no character or personality other then having a double Lightsaber, but he was at the very least better introduced and carried a very powerful foreboding presence whenever he was on screen. I honest to God cannot remember a single damn thing about Count Dooku in this movie other then he's played by Christopher Lee. He's mentioned once in the crawl, once by the Jedi, and doesn't show up until an hour and 40 minutes into the movie and he gets next to no development. Has one Lightsaber fight and flees. The Separatists as a whole in the Prequel movies (ignoring the Clone Wars show) are very weak replacements for the Empire. In the Original Trilogy we actually see the power and evil of the Empire. Such as blowing up Alderaan. In the Prequels we are never shown the Separatists doing anything evil per say, plus it's hard to feel any kind of tension with them in comparison to the Empire since nearly all their military are nothing more then a bunch of useless robots that are easily hacked up by the Jedi. All we get is people telling us why the Separatists are bad but never witnessing it for ourselves. 5. The romance. (*Laughs*) Oh God the romance. I honest to Christ, and I'm probably going to get a lot of shit for this but I honestly think this romance is a little bit more worse then Twilight. With Twilight we all knew going in it was going to be shit, there was no expectations of quality to be expected from it. With Star Wars, we've seen a romance done well before in Empire, so to see it fall so far from grace to this horribly written, loveless Shakespearean type knock off crap is truly more heartbreaking. It also doesn't help that Anakin isn't the least bit charming. He comes off more like some awkward sex pervert. Nothing of his actions would realistically make Padme let alone any woman fall in love with him. The whole backdrop of this film is the romance between Anakin and Padme. And it fails miserably. 6. The overuse of computer generated imagery make the film look cheaper and more dated. It's amazing to think that the same year this film came out was the same year that the Two Towers came out and that film still infinitely holds up, while Clones holds up as well as a cat with two legs. From the fact that nearly every environment is against a blue screen or how even every single Clone Trooper is completely CG without even a few real actors thrown in for closeups. Hey, you know when Peter Jackson had to show countless armies of Orcs? He used CG for them in far shots. When he needed closeups of them fighting the heroes he actually used fucking actors in make up and costume. But I guess that would have taken too much effort for Mr. Lucas. Clearly something he had no desire in doing. 7. The way everything is filmed and shot has to be some of the laziest film making I've ever seen. The fact that most of the talking scenes are done with people either sitting in chairs, walking down a hall and talking, or over the shoulder in shot reverse shot. Plinkett has explained this very well in his reviews. 8. This film did it's damn best to completely and utterly ruin the lore and characters from the Original Trilogy. Anakin who we were told by Obi-Wan as being a cunning and good friend, is instead represented as a whinny, angry, complaining, one dimension, creepy, prevented, bitchy, psychopathic asshole. Yoda who was always the wise Jedi Master who told Luke that his weapons are meaningless compared to the power of the Force, is now thrown one to do stupid flipping and jumping. Lucas seems to have confused the Jedi with the Vulcans from Star Trek only this time not being allowed to display even the slightest form of emotion and have any form of attractants. The Force is completely and utterly shat upon with Lucas's notion that the only thing that makes a Jedi a Jedi is a fucking damn laser sword instead of the mystical power that gives them their name and title. He pretty much confirmed this with having Lee say: ''It's obvious this contest cannot be decided by our knowledge of the Force, but our skills with a Lightsaber.'' Doug is utterly right in that this movie has less reason for existing then any other in the franchise. It doesn't add anything, it doesn't progress anything. The only reason this film was made was for Lucas to just make more money and show off some crappy CG. Nothing else.
Bane Knightfall Wow, you tore this film apart even better than Doug did! I completely agree with you guys, Attack of the Clones is my least favorite Star Wars film. But I kinda enjoy making fun of it along with Phantom Menace. I'm not afraid to say that I even own this film on Blu ray, DVD, and VHS. I don't know why I do it. I think I'm just a huge Star Wars nerd.
The Phantom Menace sucks as well. But I can say it at least looked like a f**king movie. With props, sets, and an okay balance of CG and practical effects, and it did have a few entertaining moments such as the Pod race or the Darth Maul fight (despite the fact it held no emotional depth or weight to it). I cannot think of a single moment in Clones that even slightly entertained me or left me with something.
This one is irritating because of wasted potential...hear me out...Through out a good 3/4 of the movie but start with Obi Wan is on a mission with Anakin ala the Clone Wars TV show and they get seperated, and Dooku is the one who captures them and explains why he left the Jedi Order and what's going on with Palpatine, Dooku is not a Sith but he's a true neutral jedi one who's in touch with both sides and when that happen he learned the truth of Palpatine but no one on the Council would believe him in part because the Order has become corrupt and stiff necked with Mace Windu being that representation, now Palpatine wants Dooku dead since he knows the truth. Now Anakin is on a mission to learn the truth because Dooku explains his relationship to him, Obi Wan, and Qui Gon and that Qui Gon went to Naboo because Dooku said the answer was there...and that is Jar Jar was a sith who played the Buffoon in order to start a war to get Naboo back for the Gungans because he believes the Naboo stole the planet from them and Qui Gon learned that but Darth Maul Killed him. Now Obi Wan mean while is trying to find Anakin but he and the Jedi Order are constantly butting heads because Obi Wan thinks Dooku may have turned Anakin but he can be saved but the Council's all nah take them both out. So what happens is Obi Wan trying to figure out what the right thing to do is. All the while the Clone Army and the Droids conduct their war because Palpatine does a false flag by blowing up the Senate and framing the Seperatists, and Jar Jar who manipulated Padme into becoming a Senator gives Palpatine his power. How's that for a much more interesting story?
Honestly as a child i LOVED these movies and as a teenager almost adult i can say i still LOVE these movies now. Yes the dialogue can sometines be a bit bland and the actors could have been better chosen but i actually enjoy the political talks and love to see anakin slowly turn more and more deranged. I don't know maybe its just the nostalgia talking but i cant help but smile when i watch these movies.😄
you made a really good point about revenge of the sith being the only one ppl should really watch. No need for a prequel trilogy, just that one film. Well done Doug/Rob
+Mizticall George should have had just split the events of episode 3 into three movies, so there would be time for proper character development so when Anakin finally becomes Darth Vader, people would care.
1:15 Jedi forming attachments gets in the way of mastering the force and all prioritizes as a jedi must be towards the force, not family, not love, etc.
Nah, that was just something that Lucas retconned into the prequels to try and make his shitty love story more interesting. Spoiler alert. It didn't work.
Name 5 good things in The Phantom Menace: 1. Liam Neeson and Ewan McGregor are awesome in their roles. 2. The Podrace 3. John Williams' Duel of the Fates Soundtrack 4. The Duel of the Fates Lightsaber battle 5. Darth Maul Name 5 good things in Attack of the Clones 1. Yoda VS Count Dooku 2. ...........
5 good things in attack of the clones Natalie Portman in sexy outfits Anakin murdering people after his mother died Obi Wan getting blown up by Jango Fett Less Jar Jar It's so boring that you will fall asleep through most of it so it makes the movie feel a lot shorter
Holy shit! It's so nice to hear someone feels the same way I do. I have seen this as the worst of the prequels as well, but I always seemed alone in that. I gave Phantom a little bit of a pass considering it was the first part of a 6 hour movie basically. But this was where it showed the series was truly doomed.
First, maybe it's just because I'm a huge star wars geek, but I follow the politics in these movies just fine. Naboo elects queens for a term, during which they have the power any queen would have. After the term ends, Naboo elects a new queen. I take it back. The main reason I understand the politics is definitely because I am a star wars geek. Either way, while I have no defense for they love scenes (they just plain suck) I actually like just about everything else in the movie. Just my opinion.
The deathsticks scene is the only scene I remember from that movie and the only one worth remembering. The worst part is I watched the movie at least 100 times as a kid and still that's all I remember.
Attack of the Clones is a mixed bag. On one hand, it has some thrilling action sequences, particularly the arena battle on Geonosis. The visuals are also impressive, with the CGI landscapes and creatures adding a sense of scale to the galaxy far, far away. However, the film suffers from a clunky script that relies too heavily on convoluted political machinations. The romance between Anakin and Padme feels forced and lacks chemistry, making it difficult to invest in their relationship. Overall, while Attack of the Clones has its moments of excitement, it falls short in terms of storytelling and character development.
I tried watching this last night and I had to stop half way through because I almost fell asleep. The Phantom Menace was alright, at least it had decent progression. I can get past the gungans and Jar Jar specifically, so other than that there isn't really much wrong with it. Episode II I agree is the worst of the bunch because it was basically part shitty love story and part game of clue that was never resolved in Episode III (which in my opinion is actually good).
According to the Expanded Universe, Jedi are supposed to have an open mind and keep things in ballance. If you hold one person in higher regards than others (say, friendship or love) , it clouds your judgement and can cause disaster. The Jedi basically ban emotion, all of them. As for the clone troopers/stormtroopers debate, apart from a select few, all stormtroopers were just regular people that were hired, this was because Clones aged at an increased rate (reaching adulthood in only 10 years). An exception was Vader's personal hit-squad, the 501st Legion.
yeah that's what makes me laugh about that complaint in phantom menace, that the council and republic meetings are boring, I'm just like you do know that the original trilogy had an empire right which means no real deliberating whereas this is a time of democracy where it's actually important to the plot
+Josiah Vock Yeah, but that was all explained a lot simpler, with a lot of visual suggestion, in the original trilogy. When I'm seeing the politics happen in the prequels, I feel like I'm watching Question Time in space.
Mayeur000Donz i always stand by my opinions, I'm happy to hear other opinions but mine don't change easily, on numerous occasions I've actually softened people's thoughts on episode 1 though so y'know maybe I'm just a bit special
Let's be real for a second. Hayden actually did hit some very good notes during the scene with Padme when he tells her he killed the sand people. Yes, the dialogue is awful, but he REALLY nailed the emotions of an angry, hurt teenager. Go back and just rewatch that one scene. Credit where it's due.
What gets me about the love story is that, there really was no reason to make it such a huge thing. It's not like anything set it up in the original trilogy-for all we knew, Anakin just had a one night stand and his mom sent them for adoption (did they even say they were twins? Cause it would actually make more sense if there were two mothers I think). Would anyone mind if it was just a sub-plot? If Anakin just happened to have a wife? Look, I'm just saying, this isn't a romantic comedy, if you ain't good at writing romance, nobody's making you and especially not making it the core of our protagonist's entire character arc.
+Markus Criticus Vader says they are twins in Return of The Jedi. "Your feelings for them are strong especially for... sister. So, you have a twin sister. Your feelings have now betrayed her too. Obi-Wan was wise to hide her from me, now his failure is complete. If you will not turn to the dark side then perhaps she will".
Tank207 Right. I watched it dubbed (before you say anything, Americans REMAKE foreign movies and some of them are just in British English) and in Czech, I think he just says "You have a sister." My bad.
I'm sorry but Ford (Han Solo) was THE best part about Star Wars for me. Nothing about him seemed ''hokey''. Ford portrayed the character exceptionally well.
I loved Attack of the Clones when I was a kid, it was my first Star Wars film and it got me into the series. Funny enough I tried to rewatch Attack of the Clones recently; 5 minutes, I went 5 minutes before saying "FUCK THIS."
That's just it though. They're so boring they become harder to pay attention to. The first SW movie I ever saw was ROTS and yet I fully understood everything, despite the fact it was the 3rd movie in a prequel trilogy. That's a problem for the other 2 because it makes the other 2 pointless
Well at least we have a bunch of information the majority of the fandom won't know about since the majority will care about the movies and not the extended universe how is this better than the sequels again
I like these two films, Episode 1 and 2, and 3 for that matter. My reason is that they show more worlds in these films other than, you know, a desert, a swamp, the north pole, you get the gist. I mean how cool would it be if there actually was an entire planet that was one ginormous city? It'd be one hell of a toxic place to live, but the just the thought of the grand scale astonishes me. But that's just me, I enjoy the adventures of new lands to explore.
I imagine the reason why these movies exist is to establish something in the first trilogy. Episode 1 establishes Anakin Skywalker. Episode 2 establishes the bounty hunter and the clone army used in the empire(I mean, seriously, there are no faces identifying that they are regular humans in the first place.). Episode 3 links it all together.
And that Palpatine's takeover plot began at a very early stage. All that political talk often gives what Palpatine wants: Supreme Chancellor and a giant army.
I don't disagree with Doug necessarily but there are some pretty great parts in this movie. When Anakin unleashes his hate the music swelling is good stuff, the duel between ObiWan and Fett has some good tight dramatic shots. The subsequent asteroid chase (*Cue Lucas saying something about poetry rhyming*) has some incredible audio and visual effects in the sonic torpedoes or whatever they were. Then at the end I did like the battle in the arena when the Jedi's charged, we haven't seen anything like that yet, and the fight in the dark between Anakin and Dooku was supposed to be, well, "dark" (Cue* Lucas po-)
I agree. This is my least favourite Star Wars movie to. Sure there is less Jar Jar & kid Anakin isn't in it, but is replaced by a guy that equally sucks as Anakin. In the first movie, you didn't have to sit through all that awkward cringeworthy love dialogue, PLUS THE FIRST MOVIE HAS DARTH MAUL!!
1:00 - 1:04 Stated by Padme that when her term was up she was chosen by her people due to her leadership skills to replace Palpatine as Naboo's senator. 1:12 - 1:16 The Jedi code states that emotions can cloud one's judgement and love especially so as it can lead one to the dark side which uses emotions to tap into it's power. 1:23 - 1:34 Clones were phased out not long after the empire came to power due to their advanced growth and aging and they replaced by recruits and conscripts with the remaining clones forced into retirement. Even if you didn't know that you could guess there was a change by Episode IV. Seriously Doug, there's not caring and not paying attention to dialogue SAID IN THE MOVIE.
4:29 well, considering this takes place about 20 years before star wars a new hope, when you think about it it kinda makes sense for why something would resemble the 50s.
"senator palpatine decides to form a clone army" nothing about this sentence is accurate. CHANCELLOR palpatine manipulates jarjar to get the senate to vote on whether they want to use the already created clone army as their army. now, technically palpatine used dooku to use syfo dias to make the army, but that was more behind the scenes manipulation. jeez NC atleast pay attention to the movie
"...which will eventually become the storm troopers" uhhhh also no. clones age 2x as fast and thus are old by the time of new hope. most storm troopers are regular guys.
+Roei Potash AKA Poihpio if you actually pay attention its not that hard, and it is very interesting, palpatines plot in thr prequels is very impressive
he always mentions how hard it was to follow these movies, yet i was able to understand all that stuff at the age of 11 when i first saw this movie, this is my favorite one outta the Prequels and just to add more fuel to the fire Clone Troopers are NOT Storm Troopers. remember kids to do your research or else you might tick off a couple hundred fans
You forgot one other detail in the first two prequel. There's no sense of urgency in ANYTHING. It's like they forgot that the point of the movie was in the title: "Star Wars." Where was the War in Star Wars? In the original trilogy, they were in the middle of a civil war! Everything was urgent. Episodes 1 and 2 had minimal conflict. Episode 1 was supposed to be the meeting of Anikin and Obi-Wan during a trade conflict. Episode 2 was a lead up to the actual Clone Wars. No urgency in either movie because everything was more conspiracy than genuine "Holy shit, this is bigger than me" conflict. Of the Star Wars prequels, episode 3 was the only one that had an actual war going on! That's why it was the best of the prequels (even though it was still a bad movie). There was a REAL conflict going on. It was an actual war they were fighting.
+sonochamp That's because the real war is happening much more subtly in the guise of a figure named Palpatine. Besides, Star Wars is more than just wars and action pieces. It can be anything really.
At least we get cool bounty hunter that actually does some cool stuff other than just stand around for most his screen time only to be knocked into the Sarlac Pit by a disoriented Han.
entropino Okay, maybe you can help me understand this. People seem really split on the fight scenes from the prequels. Some call them awesome, some call them terrible. I'm one of the latter. I see them as tensionless, emotionless, and overly-choreographed. No depth to them. I'd like to hear what you like about the fights.
***** Not biased if almost complete general consensus holds that the prequels were a travesty to all things Star Wars. There's fanfiction that's better then these awful movies. It honestly amazes me that anyone can defend them, not just as Star Wars movies, but as movies in general. That's how bad they are.
vsGoliath The weaponry(technology) and the armies are interesting and look better. How different forces clash looks quite interesting. The light saber battles utilise the force much more and are more varied.(dodging using environment to advantage etc.)
You should give the 2D animated hour long Clone Wars specials a look. They originally aired on Cartoon Network, and I loved them as a kid. Hell, I liked the universe they (sort of) laid out in Attack of the Clones, and those shorts expanded it for me and gave me a better idea of what the Clone Wars were. I'd argue that they're far better than Episode I and II combined. It's mostly action scenes, but they're really well done action scenes. The scene with General Grievous at the end of the first part still gives me chills to this day.
No, do not skip Attack of the Clones. Why? Because the two Clone Wars cartoons add so much more development to Anakin and Obi-Wan and actually show why Obi-Wan referred to Anakin as a good friend twice in the OT. Also, they're both great cartoons (Rebels as well). I also disagree, 1 is still the worst. I can't define that film as "so bad, it's good" because Jar Jar is JUST THAT ANNOYING. Also, Hayden's performance is bad, but still more tolerable than Jake Lloyd (Jake: Sandstorms are very, very dangerous. YYIIPPEEEEE!!! x2, let's try spinning that's a good trick!, etc.). Granted, I think Lucas' directing caused most of the bad acting from virtually everyone but even then I'll take horny, angsty 19-year old over obnoxious little brat. Also, the mystery of what Obi-Wan was investigating was somewhat interesting. True, the final reveals don't make sense (no way Palpatine could have predicted all this) but it's better than the absolutely nothing "plot" of Episode 1. Finally, as someone who got sick of these movies' massive erection for Tantooine (seriously, a vast galaxy and we have to visit this shithole for four, technically five, of them?!) at least Episode 2 spends less time on there than 1.
I think - going out on a limb here - the Brits may be better at giving performances with weirder dialogue because of theatre. Ian McDiarmid is a Shakespearean actor, and while McGregor and Lee haven't done much theatre, the British school of acting is still heavily influenced by theatre and Sheakespeare. Now I'm not saying Americans don't do theatre or Shakespeare because they obviously do, but it's just a completely different relationship with acting. I think it might also have something to do with the fact that British people are naturally understated, whereas Americans are more emotional, and this transfers to acting methods as well.
The Phantom Menace is definitely worse than Attack of the Clones. The pod racing scene was fun, and the light saber fight was pretty cool, but that's it. Clones has the arena scene, which is fun, and the light saber fight that was pretty cool also. That balances out the best parts of Phantom Menace. The asteroid belt scene was pretty cool too. And as painful as the dialog was between Anakin and Padme, there's no way bad writing is worse than the bad acting Jake Lloyd and the non-stop annoyance of Jar Jar. The Obi Wan storyline in Clones may not have been great, but it was far more interesting than attempt at a story in Phantom Menace.
Just don't watch The Clone Wars movie, I made the mistake of watching the movie and I was so terrible, I could not get into the series. Not saying the cartoon was bad just the movie.
Ive heard that there are edits of the movie without any romantic scenes, it makes the movie much more concise and to the point. Making it much better, and MUCH more watchable.
Brandon Lyon Four years before the Battle of Yavin, all clones had been decommissioned from the Imperial Army. Nonetheless, a few clones remained in Imperial service acting as training instructors for the next generation of stormtroopers
klimmr3021 I'd say episode 1 has more bad things in it, but it also has more good things. (the pod race,the lightsaber fight etc.) and episode 2 is SO fucking pointless and boring and it has no good scenes in it. The only part of episode 2 I enjoy is the part where c-3p0 is shooting people on the droid body. And that's a 5 second scene. Everything in episode 2 is either awful or incredibly boring
klimmr3021 For me, at least there are some real hard-earned effort on Episode 1, balancing practical effects with CGI. Episode 2 just reeks of laziness, with numerous blue screens, more static acting and CGI overkill.
I like the opening scenes (including the chase) and the closing ground battle/duels. The 1 1/2 Hours in between are basically glued together by Obi-Wans scenes on Kamino and Geonosis (which has the most atmospheric locations and best dialogue (Obi Wans chat with Dooku is easily the best of the lot) as well as those frigging seismic charges!), also there is some nostalgia to found to be during the Scenes on the Lars-Moisture-Farm. Heck, Shmi Skywalkers' Death Scene is pretty touching too... and of course there are Ewan McGregor, Ian McDiarmid and the always awesome Christopher Lee doing their best (I'd even add Temuela Morrison, who is genuinely good as Jango Fett, even though he doesnt do much and gets offed pretty easily) But aside from that: Stilted dialogue, no chemistry between Portman and Christensen, questionable motivation on Padmes side to even fall in love with Anakin in the first Place (I get that Anakin is socially awkward with him being a Jedi and all and not knowing how to express himself towards a woman, but Padme? The ex-queen, seasoned diplomat and politician Padme? (I dunno, maybe she just said "Aw hell!" at some point and gave up because she wanted to get laid badly or something)). And then there are the often extremely awkward tonal shifts and (probably worst of all) the Threepio-Scenes on Geonosis. John Williams really tried to give this Movie an impressive Score and he provides an absolutely beautiful love Theme and some fantastic Action writing, but his work was butchered in post-production or even outright replaced by preexisting Music from TPM.
I've never even thought of Revenge of the Sith as a movie on its own, I've only ever thought about it in context to the rest of Star Wars. Oh my god, you're completely right.
I never thought about the whole "The British Actors are the only ones who give good performances in the Prequels". Maybe that's why they cast Daisy Ridley and John Boyega as the leads in the Sequel Trilogy.
Every other character in the Star Wars universe has a British accent.
And funny enough both Daisy Ridley and Finn give excellent performances, no joke some of the best acting I’ve seen in a Star Wars film, ESPECIALLY Daisy Ridley in TLJ, Adam Driver is also giving such a good performance in the trilogy.
It’s too bad no one knew what to do with them so they’d characters really suffered for it
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NO, Stormtroopers are NOT Clonetroopers and NO, this was not removed from canon by Disney as this fact is still present within canon material as confirmed by Disney. Most Clonetroopers were retired from service soon after the Emperor came into power. Even if you only go by the films, nothing suggests that Stormtroopers are clones. Heck, if that was true, the whole Luke in a Stormtrooper disguise bit wouldn't work as they would know he was an impostor based on his small height. But we don't need to theorize in that manner because the canon material outside of the films make it as clear as day.
+Fryday ", nothing suggests that Stormtroopers are clones."
Where in the movies does it say the clone troopers != stormtroopers? They are clearly introduced deliberately to make that connection, and they look very, very similar.
+Beany2007FTW Clone troopers got old and died very fast due to their accelerated growth, so the Empire started recruiting
Where is this explained in the movies?
I'm not being a twat; I don't recall a reference in the movies to the facility in Kamino being closed down, so it's not unnatural to think that the Ep IV-VI stormtroopers are the same as the Clone Troopers introduced so obviously in Ep II.
I draw it from some points:
1- Jango Fett was dead, so his DNA would eventually run out or be harder to replicate every time(which was mentioned in the animated series)
2- Clone troopers aged very quickly due to the need of making an army real fast, so using them for a steady army instead of a war would be very expensive and useless at the end.
3- Storm troopers have distinct voices and heights, otherwise Luke and Han would haven't been able to disguise as them
No, is not touched upon in the movies, but some logic thinking can give you the hint. Of course, first you have to give a crap about the prequels, which I don't blame anyone if they don't
Also, clone troopers actually are able to hit their targets
"George, you can type this shit, but you sure as hell can't SAY it!" - Harrison Ford to George Lucas over some creative differences during the original trilogy.
That story is so taken out of context.
This is what really happened:
www.cinemablend.com/news/1702860/what-really-happened-when-harrison-ford-gave-george-lucas-crap-on-set
My dvd of Attack of the Clones got damaged so it skipped everything but the action scenes. Not kidding. So I used to wonder why it was so hated since it was the most exciting movie. Then one day the DVD broke for good so I got a new one and realized how wrong I was.
Dr. Madd lol
Must of been a short film
Dr. Madd damn, that’s one hell of a coincidence
So, in other words, when you have to watch the movie in full, including the scenes that don't have action in them, where you actually have to turn your brain on and not just marvel at special effects, is when your opinion of it goes down? Well, this film wasn't made for people like you in the first place.
@@MrZackavelli I was a kid when I owned that DVD. When you're a kid you often skip past all the "boring talking parts" to the actions scenes anyways. But because this movie, from my memory, had only the fun action scenes my kid brain created positive memories surrounding it and was confused when people called it the boring one. Watching it in full as an adult I realized how a majority of the movie is a terribly written romance. Attack of the Clones is not what I would call "intellectually stimulating". This is a film where a woman tells a man his constantly gazing at her makes her uncomfortable, has to explain to him why dictatorships are bad, finds out he massacred an entire village including all the children and decides at the end of this film "yeah I want to marry this man".
It's so dense. Every single image has a digital effect.
+Marcus “DeadPunisherCZ” Punisher Which is simultaneously amazing and terrible.
Like poetry.
+Druida it rhymes...
+Marcus “DeadPunisherCZ” Punisher Fuck you, Rick Berman!
Wait a minute...that ain't Rick Berman...
What is it with _Ricks_?
+Aitor Molina Hopefully it'll work. Jar Jar is the key to all of this.
well, There was Jango Fett. He was pretty cool.
Boba was better
Qua Well, Boba never did anything really. In the movies at least. Jango at least we saw kill and fight with people.
+Suika Ibuki idk I just liked the mysterious aspect of boba
+Qua When I was a kid and grew up with Jango thinking he is the ultimate badass, and then saw Boba just kinda stand there until he dies, I pretty much hated boba.
+00WhiteBlade Boba is pretty badass in the clone wars.
I think the scene where Annakin's mother dies in his arms was fucking intense!!
you are right
@@juanmarodriguez6010 IMO, it's Hayden's best acting in the part.
Hayden is an extremely good facial actor but needs a good director to bring out his speaking parts
Something George didn’t seem to be good at
never had any problems following the political talks
+Hromovlad1 Same. Even as a kid, it was pretty simple to me.
+Falcon Helmet Like what? It makes sense to me.
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It was what drawn me to starwars, the other films didn't deliver like the prequels did.
*****
The Republic imposed high taxation of the Trade Federation, who in protest began a blockade of Naboo
Basically an equivalent of the Boston Tea Party
It all just escalates from there onward
direct quote from lucas on the set of phantom menace ""can you do that again but do it more Jedi like""
yep that's some great directions work there george.
+permeus2nd I think he was still living in the 70s. Twas a sillier time.
+permeus2nd well if you think about it, why would jedi be super outgoing and charismatic? their pretty much monks. being stoic would be very much expected from them.
+Ziggerath
and that's why it fails, you don't make your leads into emotionless robots, no matter the lore justification, cause it's fucking boring and unrelatible to our entire species as a whole
+DarthRushy Worst part is if you watch Clone Wars these same characters get proper personalities and are sympathetical just because he did not get direct control of the show.
angelowl89 Except for Obi-Wan. He was a jackass in the Clone Wars, no offense.
There are 3 blockbuster movies that George Lucas needed to see in order to make the romance between Anakin and Padme good - Batman Returns, The Mask of Zorro and Titanic. Even though the writing wasn't always the best, the romantic leads in all of them had perfect chemistry and worked magnificently off each other. Also, when I think of what Anakin Skywalker was like before he became Darth Vader, I imagine someone like Thor from the first Thor movie or Chris Pine's James Kirk - both of them are cocky, but are also very likable and evolve to become better people. If Luke Skywalker was Captain America, then Anakin definitely needed to be Thor. Instead, we got Edward Cullen. Thanks, George.
I can see you are a marvel fan and that's why you are comparing the two, but Darth Vader never acted like thor. He had no charisma, but was smart and strong. He could get things done and was powerful. I think he would be a talented man that would be angrier and angrier of the useless of the Jedi order. But that romance was not good at all, it was awkward. We got what I thought anakin would be but he failed in performance and romance. I like Hayden Christensen, but I think that he was not given a good character to develop until the third movie.
Therealmadkong I don't blame Christensen, either. Oh, and Anakin was even worse in Episode III - he was in full Superboy Prime mode by the end of the movie. Speaking of which, if you find Anakin's dialogue painful in these 2 films (just like everyone else does), do as I do - just imagine his dialogue in Superboy Prime's voice. Not only is it surprisingly less whiny, but it's also fucking hilarious.
The writing for the romance in The Mask of Zorro and Titanic were some of the best ever. It may be overdone in the latter b/c of its running time, but the romantic moments go beyond what's required of the actors. Think about the most memorable scenes in both films: Zorro had the church confession, tango, duel in the barn, etc... while Titanic had the "flying", drawing, handprint on the window, etc... sequences. All Lucas had were two people just talking about their feelings. Which is incredibly dull compared to Han constantly hitting on Leia as she tries to resist.
***** I was referring to Titanic and the running time with my statement. But yes, you're absolutely right - watching Jack and Rose's scenes after he saves her, we get to know more about their characters and we get more invested in them, and all the moments you pointed out are spot-on. Same goes for The Mask of Zorro, which is a movie I just adore.
+D Vass that's not what Anakin is supposed to be though. Never was what he was supposed to be. Anakin isn't cool or smooth or a confident ladies man like James Kirk or Thor. He's a geek. He's an awkward nerd, far more relatable and interesting than either of the Mary Sue's you mentioned, and with a personality that makes far more sense given that he's a dorky teenager raised by celibate, emotion-restricting warrior monks who hasn't seen a girl in 10 years and are in LOVE with a girl who you're forbidden to be in love with, you would be just as awkward and dorky. Given that, Anakin & Padme had perfect chemistry. Your fundamental misunderstanding of the character of Anakin does not a bad character make.
I know that others have pointed it out, but the Clones do NOT become the Stormtroopers. The Clones are essentially super soldiers born and bred for war, which is why they're so effective at pretty much everything they do. Between RotS and A New Hope, they began phasing out Clones and replacing them with recruits for a variety of reasons: too expensive, they needed more soldiers than the Clones could provide, some Cloning facilities were being taken over by separatists and used against the Empire. It's actually one of the things I really like: there's a legitimate canon reason for why the Stormtroopers suck so much.
But yeah, I really like RotS, and I even forgive Phantom Menace, but I CANNOT defend this movie. It's the worst of the bunch by a huge margin.
+baylaust The Stormtroopers don't suck. The heroes just have plot armor. Leia was hit twice in the films.
The King of Queen The Stormtroopers are actually still alive when knocked down mostly. Did you forget the very first scene of Star Wars or at the hoth base where they slaughter the rebels?
+Apothecary2 it's awkward, since the armor can protect them from lasers but not from ewoks' arrows. And even if the heroes have plot armor, at the very least they could try to aim properly instead of just shooting from the waist.
The King of Queen at-at didn't go into the base.
Brandon Lyon My guess is, since they have the Clones on their side, Droids are pretty much completely obsolete now. They would just be a waste of resources.
Fun fact: Hayden Christensen tried to convince George Lucas to change the script, but Lucas shot him down. The actors aren't bad, but man, the script is just awful.
Cheapsunglasses The script of every Star Wars movie has always been awful. And anyone who says differently regarding the original trilogy have their nostalgia goggles on. Even Alec Guinness who played in actual GOOD movies that are considered masterpieces, went on record of saying the script of A New Hope was just flat-out bad.
Bitchslapped it was Harrison Ford that said it. But yeah, pretty much the same quote.
@@cinemaslut9034 that's not what Guinness said. He said when he got the script he didn't like the dialog, but he said he had to keep reading it, invested in the story. He was more annoyed by kids' obsession with it.
Yes the dialog is silly, but the story is captivating. And EMPIRE, while it also has it's silly moments, is certainly not awful by any stretch of the imagination.
@@cinemaslut9034 facts people don't like to admit how corny the OG trilogy dialogue was
So this is proof that he wasn’t just working with just yes men yet he just ignored their criticism until Revenge of the Sith
Who are people getting hung by the fact that he made the Storm Trooper mistake? If you only watched the films how are you going to pick up on that fact since they don't make the distinction?
Aside from that my biggest problem with the film is how forgettable it is. I can only remember two things from this film and that's geonosis and kamino. Not any scenes just the two planet and not in film but rather because they're my favourite levels in battlefront. Thats what this film is to me.
That’s a great point. When I only watched the movies, I thought they were storm troopers as well. Hell, even Episode 3 didn’t go into detail about the transition to storm troopers.
There's 2 scenes I enjoy throughout the entire film, the death sticks scene and the Jango Fett fight since it was kinda refreshing to see some hand to hand combat in Star Wars
I think even Lucas admitted to not being a very good actor's director.
Yet he decided he didn't want any help with that..... hmm
Well I've heard his fellow friends and filmmakers said he should direct his films when Lucas was looking for a director for TPM. And that unlike ANH, the directing chair became very more fun and less stress inducing.
Michael Jordan admitted that Kobe could beat him one-on-one.
Is this proof that Kobe was better than Jordan?
George is a humble guy. He's not above acknowledging his flaws as a director. Literally every director has a weak point.
For the last time : STORMTROOPERS. ARE NOT. CLONES.
Yeah, but the movies themselves never explain that, do they?
+vsGoliath They never explain they are either
well TFA has now established it, finally.
Corentin Pousset-Bougère Precisely. Regardless of what Lucas tried to retcon, tFA has nailed down what they are. Hurrah for legitimate canon material fixing things!
Except they were made to look extremely similar, and they never explained that. Hell they never explained it in RoTS. So we’re left to that conclusion. Ps don’t say it was explained more in The expanded universe. If the movie can’t explain it, the the director has failed.
I'm actually surprised that Doug didn't comment on the fist fight with Jango Fett on Kamino or the Jedi battle in the Genosian Execution Arena. Those were some pretty cool action scenes along with the Yoda and Count Dooku lightsaber fight.
While I do agree with Doug that ATTACK OF THE CLONES is the weakest of the STAR WARS movies, I wouldn't necessarily call it terrible or dull. The action is still pretty awesome, the designs for the alien creatures and planets still amaze me (I don't care if it's all CGI, as unlike most people, I haven't trained my eyes to detect them; plus, there is photographic evidence of there being actual model work blended in with the Visual effects), and I do like the backstory introduced for the Stormtroopers. I think what makes this one the weakest for me is that unlike TPM, which took you almost immediately into the action, this one felt slower paced and less engaging at points. I do still enjoy it though, despite its flaws (yes, even the Anakin and Padme romance, as while the dialogue is definitely cheesy at points, I feel that it was going for a "ROMEO AND JULIET" type inspiration, and Shakespeare's lines would sound weird by modern standards as well...)
Doug does bring up some interesting points though, as how you could easily just skip right ahead to ROTS, as that's the movie that fully explains how Anakin turns to the dark side. I may not completely agree as I do actually like TPM and AOTC, but it is an interesting argument nonetheless. And I also love how he says that the British actors are the ones who give the best performances in the prequels. That actually got a laugh out of me as I've always thought that having a British Accent always elevated an actor or character's credibility or humor, and I'm glad to see that I'm not the only one who has noticed that!
So while I do still like ATTACK OF THE CLONES and the rest of the prequel trilogy, I have to give Doug Walker credit for providing a his own unique thesis on these films as they actually feel new and fresh, whereas most of the prequel haters just whine and complain about the same things over and over and over again!
This is how you do a negative critique on the prequels correctly in my opinion: provide a fair and balanced analysis without mindless bashing or ranting. That way, even people who do enjoy the prequels can be entertained by these reviews despite not agreeing with them.
The Phantom Menace immediately taking you into the action? Yeah, uh huh. Have you actually seen tPM?
It does get into the action fairly quickly, like in about 5 minutes, but I wouldn't say immediately. Episode 3 does that, though.
I don't agree with Doug when he said the visuals were boring at all, besides the 50's style bar, that was a good point. But I agree that just like episode 1, true had WAY too much political talking and not the kind of interesting political talking. Episode II is somewhere below an ok movie for me. Like in between a D- and a C-
"I don't care if it's all CGI, as unlike most people, I haven't trained my eyes to detect them"
Exactly. I don't buy this "it sucks because you know it isn't there". What does it even mean? Watching animated movies must really suck for these people.
Every movie special effect requires suspension of disbelief because you know it's not real. It's a god damn movie! It's all seems to me like snobism for old shit.
Bexebeche Whenever some one throws the bullcrap CGI argument, I just like to play the ED WOOD clip, "What do you know?! Haven't you ever heard of suspension of disbelief?!"
I am very angry because someone spoiled The Force Awakens for me.
Yep, same here.
Sorry dude, I know what it feels like to get excited for a movie and then some asshole ruins it for you.
+MegaSoulhero I've been spoiled twice.Today. Fuck my life
+MegaSoulhero A moment of silence.
+MegaSoulhero That sucks man, that really sucks. Though look on the bright side, for the next movie you will be a LOT more careful
Attack of the Clones was the first Star Wars movie my Dad took me to see and we BOTH fell a sleep in the theater. we woke up in time for the cool lightsaber battles at the end though. later that day my Dad just brought out the original trilogy DVDs and we just watched those.
It's a sad, sad day when you can say you fell asleep during a Star Wars movie. The prequels really are that bad, aren't they? :/
***** What echo chamber? Seems to be the opinion of the vast majority that these films failed not only as Star Wars movies but as movies in general.
***** Eh, I suppose so. Personally, the reason I don't like them is not that they failed as Star Wars movies, but that they failed as movies in general. There's just so much terrible writing, plot holes, boring and uninteresting political talk, and mind-numbing Michael Bay action scenes that I honestly couldn't care less about anything that happens.
Even the characters, always the most important part of an adventure movie, were awful. Obi Wan was an idiot, Anakin was a whiny little bitch, you could replace Padme with a piece of toast!
I feel bad for you and your dad..it must have been such a disappointment to waste your money on a shit movie like this and witness such awful acting and boring characters...
vsGoliath only the third one is good
The political talk was was not hard to follow to me WHEN I WAS A KID. It's really weird for adults to say that it's hard.
+Alucard BloodyVampire I think he meant that it was hard to care resulting in hard to follow, but same as a kid I didn't mind at all ... but yeah kids don' have a big sense of criticism they just kinda sit there and enjoy what's to be enjoyed I think.
(What's that anime again ? I remember the abridged is funny af tho)
magicmisteur Hellsing Ultimate is the name, it's like what if Tarantino made anime, 100% badass
Alucard BloodyVampire Right, yeah that's what I remember it to be like, cool visuals too. Thanks :)
Might be less of a "hard to follow" and more of a "hard to care."
+Alucard BloodyVampire yeah I find it weird when people talk about poltics being hard like its simple. Then again maybe why people wote so badly.
The only things I really liked about this movie was Jango Fett, the Geonosis arena battle and Yoda facing Count Dooku.
I don't like this movie. It's coarse, rough, and irritating...and it gets everywhere.
but not force awakens. its everything soft, and smooth...
Luffyrulz09 Eh, I didn't care much for that, either. Not as bad as any of the prequels, but not as good as it was built up to be. Still, that's just my opinion. If you like TFA, that's fine.
yes the TFA it did play it a bit to safe and by the numbers but to be honest I think it had to be that way with a re launch you have to get the ball rolling before you can soar and they did that now the real test is what they do for the future films
Jackson Rushing I scrolled down for like 90 seconds before I finally found this joke. Worth it.
guthax30 Glad you liked it.
The clones doesn't become the stormtroopers...
Zippr yes they do
well, sort of. The Stormtroopers are still predominantly clones, but their rapid aging process has made them less effective in combat, so an increasing percentage of them are volunteers and/or draftsmen, both situations being the reason why Stormtroopers are practically cannon fodder in the original trilogy while they were machine-efficient killers in the prequels.
TheGrayMysterious neeeeeeeerrrrrrrddddddd
Mikhail Gorbachev Hi, Mr. Piccolo
TheGrayMysterious why am I a flute?
was my favorite Part of the Prequels when i was younger, because the epic Battle of geonosis and the Fight of Yoda against Dooku :D
"[Hayden Christiansen] did a fine job with the material given to him. He's a good actor, kids--leave him alone. Sir Laurence Olivier couldn't read these shitty lines!"
~ Harry S. Plinkett
Jackson Rushing I totally disagree
Scott Korin Okay.
@@ScottKorin You think Olivier could have made this work, or do you hate Hayden Christiansen?
Dear people born before 1978,
When you were young you fell in love with star wars. You loved the world you loved the fights, you loved the characters. What didn't you love? The crappy dialogue? The half-decent acting? No! You loved star wars; the universe.
When you grew up you began to realize that you wanted to relive that time when star wars excited you, when it was perfect because you were too young to see it as anything else.
Let me explain to you how one could like movies like these:
Cue Episode 1. I was 2 years old when it came out and I was 5 years old when I saw it. This film had everything I wanted to see in it. I loved the big fish chasing the Jedi, I loved the Gungan battle verses the droid, I even loved seeing a little boy be a hero. And of course I skipped the boring talking parts.
Episode 2 blew my fucking mind. It was exciting, it was bigger, it was louder, it was insane, I loved every second of it. Lightsabers were my fantasy! I bought all the plastic lightsabers I could find and had duels with my friends and my dad every chance I got. I bought a clone trooper helmet and ran around with a gun pretending to be an advanced tactical soldier. I watched that movie a dozen times when I was young (again, skipping the boring parts).
By now I had seen episodes 4, 5, and 6. And I liked them a lot because I liked the space battles, they were kinda....meh. Where was the fast paced lightsaber duels? Where was the giant armies fighting the giant armies? I didn't want to see Luke kill a monster with a door, I didn't want to see him standing on his head in a jungle. The only parts I really liked where when spaceships fought each other, like on the death star trench.
Episode 3, once again, blew my fucking mind, I was 9 years old. The clones troopers were officially the most badass, merciless, skilled special forces of all time. And AGAIN the lightsaber battles were amazing. I remember trying to hold 4 lightsabers at once in both hands like General Grevious and fighting like that.
Being a little older I understood the drama behind Anakin's character and the conflict between him and Obi-Wan, and it made me sad, it pulled me into the movie THAT MUCH MORE.
I was an enormous fan of star wars from when I was 5 to when I was 15 and I didn't grow up on the original trilogy.
To me: star wars is Clone Troopers and Jedi.
I can't say this review is unfair, but I'd like you to take a look at the prequels from a child's perspective and understand that even though we make fun of and shun them, they ARE star wars to many people, and that is not a bad thing.
Agree with everything that you just said! :D
I agree 100%
These movies are just Revenge of the Sith Origins. all they do is set up Anakin/Darth Vader, Obi-Wan, the clones/stormtroopers, and Overall how the Empire came to be.
Lol, is that supposed to be a knock? Those are pretty essential plot points.
I gave Attack of the Clones another watch and it was not as bad as I thought it was because the last time I saw it, I was only 9 and saw only the best bits. It was hugely better then Phantom Menace which has been bumped down to my LEAST FAVORITE, not the worst.
I don't know where you get your facts Doug, but the duels are not the only thing I remember and like about Attack of the Clones. Yes, I love the duels, but the arena battle, that bar scene in your top 11 good prequel moments, the mystery of Sypho Dias, the origin of Boba Fett, the MUSIC by John Williams, the deterioration of the republic from the inside. I love all those moments. There's even a scene where Poggle gives Dooku the plans to the Death Star.
While its not good it is great to see Christopher Lee in a Star Wars film.RIP Christopher Lee.
Facepalm! *The clone troopers are NOT stormtroopers!*
Also there's plenty of character development in this movie, much more than in the entire OT. It's just not in-your-face obvious.
+Verebazs Yea but it's awkward and unbelieveable. Padme rejects Anikan and says he will always be like the little kid from Tatoiine, but in then he says some bullshit about sand and BAM she falls in love with him. Also why the fuck did he freak out on Obi One for like no reason?
*Wan
LuiError
1: Oh yeah, because the bullshit of Leia falling for Han after he forced himself on her is not awkvard and unbeliveable...
2: The sand monologe as narmy as it was, does give a lot of information. Anakin associates sand with Tatooine, which is a horrible place. Naboo is practically a paradise, from where an angel came from. Yeah it sounds terribly corny, but have you read any love poems from the 19th and even mid-20th century?
3: Padmé doesn't fall inlove with him because of that line. It's unfortunate that some of the better scenes between the two ended up being cut.
But where in the movies themselves does it establish that storm troopers aren't clone troopers? I bet you that if you got a kid to watch all the Star Wars movies in order, they would assume that the troops from III are the same as IV, because that's obviously what George was trying to imply or set up.
vsGoliath
Did you miss the part about the clones aging twice as fast as normal? Or that Jango Fett was required to stay mostly on Kamino, in order to continue provide genetic material for the creation of new clones, which is pretty hard after he got himself killed? Or that several stormtroopers in the OT are very visibly different in height?
Oh come on Doug, this movie wasn't that boring. Remember the scene where Anakin yelled at Padme about how he slaughtered all the Tuskin Raiders including the women and the children? Cracks me up every time.
Yeah, the comedy in the prequels is spot on! Wait, those are supposed to be serious moments? Oh...
+vsGoliath You did try to be funny? Well, guess you took lessons from Jar Jar.
The reason why Episode I and II are there is because it has to show exactly when and how the seeds of Anakin's downfall and Palpatine's rise to power occurred. Palpatine's plans are subtle and not attention grabbing. He's the spider making the web to trap everyone. The chess master who can wait patiently. If you follow Palpatine and Darth Sidious alone, the whole politics makes sense.
Episode I: Darth Sidious convinces the Trade Federation to invade his home planet of Naboo and force the Queen to sign the treaty for promise of power and wealth. He does so to make the Chancellor look weak and then make Senator Palpatine look sympathetic for election as Chancellor.
Episode II: Darth Sidious through Count Dooku formed a rouge Separatist faction to engineer a crisis involving a droid army so large that not even the Jedi could wipe them out. Then he convinces the Senate to grant him emergency powers of direct control to deal with the crisis and then "reluctantly" use the clone army that the Jedi discovered to protect the Republic.
Evan Pan-Bao
OT Cocksuckers: bUt MuH LIghtSbERS & HaN soLOs CO0LnesS
Just to let you know Doug. The Clones were fire when the Empire was form.
Doug, please review the Clone Wars cartoon, it's absolutely amazing.
+TheGhostbuster1989 minus that one saga about the chip in clone troopers' brains.
+TheGhostbuster1989 I wouldn't call it amazing. I grew up with it and I still love it, but it took a few seasons to get good, and even after that it still has some problems that piss me off. The good guys always won, most of the villains were pretty lame until the last couple seasons, and it always seemed like the show couldn't figure out who it's audience was, some episodes are very juvenile and silly and appealed to younger kids, and others were dark and gritty and clearly meant for an older audience. (The brain worms episode nearly made me shit my pants in fear when I was a kid.). Also, it was always bouncing around the timeline which made it hard to follow.
I liked this movie, actually.
Me too
How
@@ChaoticDarkthrones Same
Nevermind I don’t
@@SDfan2002 Yeah I changed my mind, too.
When Doug brought up the whole thing about Episodes 1 and 2 being pointless, I remember having an incredibly similar conversation with a friend of mine regarding the prequels.
I pretty much said they could've amalgamated the Anakin-focused material from the first two prequels into Revenge of the Sith, since it was pretty clear that the prequels were showing Anakin's life before becoming Darth Vader. And as for the other stuff that went down, The Phantom Menace and Attack of the Clone could've been TV miniseries rather than movies. That way, Lucas could've had more time to develop the characters and stories. Hell, if they were miniseries, we could've gotten better development of Obi-Wan and his history before meeting and during his time mentoring Anakin.
Not sure if the results would've been better, but for me personally, it would've been a more promising format for the prequels.
Doug, the stormtroopers in episode 4 are actually recruited people, the clones have been decommissioned between episode 3 and 4. it's explained in star wars rebels :)
Jesus these 3 mistakes in this video are making me cringe.
1. Jedi's cannot form attachments because they can lead to negative emotions (the dark side) when what they love is threatened.
2. Only the first stormtroopers were the leftover clones. After the 3rd movie all new stormtroopers were recruited humans.
3. The clones have a New Zealand accent
+Skarlet People can't tell the difference between a new zealand accent and a fake approximation of an australian accent. These people think the accent for the clones in The Clone War is actually decent.
+Skarlet
Remember who's making this video. This is the guy who couldn't tell when Jim Cummings was doing someone's singing voice...twice. He's the guy who didn't know that not all sailors could swim, and didn't know the the demon from Fantasia's name is Chernabog.
+Skarlet At least it's only three, unlike the film
the actor is from new zealand
+Skarlet Yes lets defend this movie...
You know, if the rumors were true - that Jar Jar was actually a sith - I could have a whole new respect for the prequels.
They aren't. George isn't that smart. Jar Jar existed for comic relief but Lucas can't write for shit.
+vsGoliath "Padme is the mother of Princess Leia, therefore she is a queen." *is no longer queen* * dies at childbirth*.
"It was called the clone wars because the jedi were fighting the clones" *clones and jedi fighting on the same side the entire war*
"Yoda was the master who taught Obi Wan Kenobi" *Qui-Gon Jinn is the master who taught Obi Wan*
You done goofed, Lucas.
angelowl89
Hell, Padme wasn't even a Queen when she gave birth - she was a senator, at that point (or was she even that?)
I don't know, it isn't clear. As I said, George Lucas done goofed. He does not know star wars, he is like the worst star wars fan ever.
angelowl89
Actually,it is made clear. The Queen is an elected official in this universe and is usually painted up like a China Doll (ex. how Padme dressed in The Phantom Menace ). Considering she never wears that ridiculous getup throughout the 2nd and 3rd prequel (and the fact that Padme refers to herself as senator in the 2nd prequel), it's a safe bet that Padme is no longer a Queen after the first prequel.
I disagree for me the one that you can eliminate without missing anything is the Phantom Menace, that one is pointless in its entirety, however, in this one we get a glimpse of the Dark Side growing in Anakin, that for me is the best part of this movie. Also knowing how the clone army came to be is a neat detail from Lucas. Regarding the Diner scene, it's not completely out of place, it's like in Heat (1995), when De Niro hires the black dude as the getaway driver, at least that's how I saw it. Yoda's fight it's well executed, due to the hype building of the original trilogy of Yoda, just saying that someone is awesome or the strongest of all Jedis is worthless if you DON'T SHOW it.
+Karolus Magnus But we're already made aware of the dark side growing in Anakin in Episode III, and while we don't see how the Clone Army came to be in Episode III, we can still gather the whole idea of there being a Clone Army that later became the Storm Troopers (kind of). So Episode II is still pointless. It having some neat scenes/ideas doesn't make it necessary.
If you skip episode I, you skip Darth Maul vs Obi Wan.
That 50's diner from this film looked like it could fit right into a scene from the Holiday Special.
I love these movies! You didn't touch up on ANYTHING good!
Ilovesimsfreeplay16 Watch his review of Episode I
@@Grancop00 Yeah, the greatness of the film flies over his head in that video too.
My thoughts on the Stormtroopers, being different from the Clone troopers is this: The original clones, were clones of Jango Fett; he was the host subject. But strands of DNA or whatever means the Kaminoens used to clone him can only go so far. Every now and then they would probably need to gather more DNA, which is why he had an apartment there. So over time, after his death they ran out of DNA to clone. Maybe they could have cloned a clone, but perhaps they wouldn't get the same results. So at one point the Empire began recruiting other people. You never see them take off their helmets so you wouldn't be able to see if they look the same.
I agree with almost everything you're saying. My only problem is that half of the plot points that you're saying don't make sense are actually explained very well. To be fair, I grew up with the prequels so I kind of memorized every single detail about the plot, but just because you didn't get it doesn't mean it wasn't explained.
“No character is developed…”
Rewatch Shmi’s death scene and Anakin’s reaction.
you can cut that out and Anakin's fall still makes sense. you only need ROTS to understand why this guy becomes vader
@@godemperorofmankind3.091 "How is Palpatine controlling both the Republic and the Separatists?", "Why does Anakin have a wife when no other Jedi does?", "What happened to Anakin's arm?", etc.
@@MrZackavelli he lost it in the war. Jedi forbid attachment which Yoda explains.
Sidious is secretly the leader because he gives Dooku and Grevious orders and was Dooku's master. if that is unclear, an extra line of dialogue would clean it up. when Sidious reveals himself, he can reveal to anakin "You think you're in control, boy? I played you all for fools. I am Count Dooku's master." or cut dooku out entirely. you dont need that character if we're re-editing this into a single prequel film. that whole first 20 minutes we dont really need.
@@MrZackavelli How dose the Republic suddenly have a Clone Army?
@@Remix-pr4xd The Kaminoans made it for them?
Thanos to George Lucas on TPM and AOTC: “Your politics bore me.”
How could you dislike this movie with such masterful lines such as:
"I don't like sand, it's coarse, and rough, irritating, and it gets everywhere..."
I actually think Clones has one standout sequence that makes it better than Phantom or Sith. The Tatooine sequence. The whole thing is wonderful. You've got the location, you've got the set, the tone, the music, the dark side coming out of Anakin during the start of his tragedy... it's fantastic. It's the only part of the prequel trilogy I can say that I truly liked. Sith gets a free pass from everyone for being darker and more akin to what people want Ted to see. I don't care. It has the same horrible unrealistic dialogue, the same green screen fetish, the same stilted characters, the same forced tie-in story execution... it's the same. Fair enough that people like that one, but I don't. As for Clones, that Tatooine sequence almost makes the other 2 hours bearable. Almost.
The only reason I like this movie is because it gave a kickstar to some of the best videogames based in the Star Wars Universe.
I fucking hate Attack of the Clones. I detest everything about it. It really honest to God baffles me that there are trollers or just plain idiots on here that claim the Force Awakens is worse. To me that's like trying to argue that the Dark Knight Rises is worse then Batman and Robin. Force Awakens has only one problem in that it borrows to much from a New Hope, but it was otherwise well paced, well written, well acted, well directed with fun and likable characters. And no, Attack of the Clones doesn't get any points for being ''original'' since it fails in almost every other possible aspect of story telling.
1. The plot makes little to no sense and is unforgivably boring. Nothing in Clones is even remotely interesting to follow or care about. Despite not being as complicated and a tiny bit more focused then Menace it is somehow more of a chore to sit through. The whole plot is focused around some intergalactic space war building up against two forces we know nothing about. I honest to God still can't comprehend what was the point of this film. Clones doesn't add anything, doesn't advance anything. You could make the argument it shows how the Clone Wars started, but honestly we didn't need to. The Original Trilogy threw us right into the conflict with the Empire and the Rebels. We didn't need to know how it started just that's been happening for a while. Same thing should have been done with these Prequels. Just have the whole trilogy be about the Clone Wars. Or at the very least show us the start of the conflict with Episode I and end it with Episode III. That we we can have a better understanding of both sides of the conflict.
2. Almost a good half of these characters are either unlikable, boring or straight up annoying. Anakin has one character arc: a whinny little bitch that's it. It really baffles how people say Kylo is worse then Anakin. The reason why Kylo's angst works for his character is cause he's trying to live up to his grandfather and is in constant frustration that he won't be able to live up to him. It doesn't work for Anakin cause first off unlike Kylo he's not supposed to be a villain. He's meant to be our main character who we follow on his journey, the character whom we can care about or relate to. But throughout the whole he's just a constant, whinny, complaining asshole who never once shows any decent qualities. Plus there is no way a whinny, psychopathic asshole like Anakin can become cold, calculating military force like Vader was in the Originals. It amazes me why people like Mace Windu. He's probably the character in the Prequels that has the least amount of character out of them all. The only thing I can remember about Windu is that he's got a purple Lightsaber. That's it. Padme is once again underdeveloped and boring. Oh and extremely stupid. Purely because she's falls in love with a creepy whinny psychopath like Anakin Skywalker.
3. The dialogue is some of the worst in any Star Wars movie period. ''I don't like sand. It's course, rough and irritating, and it get's everywhere. Nothing feels naturally nor carry any emotion weight. Half the dialogue is nothing more then exposition for the audience. The only characters that are able to pull off some of these awful lines as Doug said are all the British actors.
4. There is no clear or developed villain whom we can understand or follow. Say what you will about Menace and the fact that Maul had next to no character or personality other then having a double Lightsaber, but he was at the very least better introduced and carried a very powerful foreboding presence whenever he was on screen. I honest to God cannot remember a single damn thing about Count Dooku in this movie other then he's played by Christopher Lee. He's mentioned once in the crawl, once by the Jedi, and doesn't show up until an hour and 40 minutes into the movie and he gets next to no development. Has one Lightsaber fight and flees. The Separatists as a whole in the Prequel movies (ignoring the Clone Wars show) are very weak replacements for the Empire. In the Original Trilogy we actually see the power and evil of the Empire. Such as blowing up Alderaan. In the Prequels we are never shown the Separatists doing anything evil per say, plus it's hard to feel any kind of tension with them in comparison to the Empire since nearly all their military are nothing more then a bunch of useless robots that are easily hacked up by the Jedi. All we get is people telling us why the Separatists are bad but never witnessing it for ourselves.
5. The romance. (*Laughs*) Oh God the romance. I honest to Christ, and I'm probably going to get a lot of shit for this but I honestly think this romance is a little bit more worse then Twilight. With Twilight we all knew going in it was going to be shit, there was no expectations of quality to be expected from it. With Star Wars, we've seen a romance done well before in Empire, so to see it fall so far from grace to this horribly written, loveless Shakespearean type knock off crap is truly more heartbreaking. It also doesn't help that Anakin isn't the least bit charming. He comes off more like some awkward sex pervert. Nothing of his actions would realistically make Padme let alone any woman fall in love with him. The whole backdrop of this film is the romance between Anakin and Padme. And it fails miserably.
6. The overuse of computer generated imagery make the film look cheaper and more dated. It's amazing to think that the same year this film came out was the same year that the Two Towers came out and that film still infinitely holds up, while Clones holds up as well as a cat with two legs. From the fact that nearly every environment is against a blue screen or how even every single Clone Trooper is completely CG without even a few real actors thrown in for closeups. Hey, you know when Peter Jackson had to show countless armies of Orcs? He used CG for them in far shots. When he needed closeups of them fighting the heroes he actually used fucking actors in make up and costume. But I guess that would have taken too much effort for Mr. Lucas. Clearly something he had no desire in doing.
7. The way everything is filmed and shot has to be some of the laziest film making I've ever seen. The fact that most of the talking scenes are done with people either sitting in chairs, walking down a hall and talking, or over the shoulder in shot reverse shot. Plinkett has explained this very well in his reviews.
8. This film did it's damn best to completely and utterly ruin the lore and characters from the Original Trilogy. Anakin who we were told by Obi-Wan as being a cunning and good friend, is instead represented as a whinny, angry, complaining, one dimension, creepy, prevented, bitchy, psychopathic asshole. Yoda who was always the wise Jedi Master who told Luke that his weapons are meaningless compared to the power of the Force, is now thrown one to do stupid flipping and jumping. Lucas seems to have confused the Jedi with the Vulcans from Star Trek only this time not being allowed to display even the slightest form of emotion and have any form of attractants. The Force is completely and utterly shat upon with Lucas's notion that the only thing that makes a Jedi a Jedi is a fucking damn laser sword instead of the mystical power that gives them their name and title. He pretty much confirmed this with having Lee say: ''It's obvious this contest cannot be decided by our knowledge of the Force, but our skills with a Lightsaber.''
Doug is utterly right in that this movie has less reason for existing then any other in the franchise. It doesn't add anything, it doesn't progress anything. The only reason this film was made was for Lucas to just make more money and show off some crappy CG. Nothing else.
Bane Knightfall I agree with everything you said. I despise Attack of the Clones with a passion! It's such a disaster of a film!
Even when I used to like the Prequels. Episode II was always my least favorite.
Bane Knightfall Wow, you tore this film apart even better than Doug did! I completely agree with you guys, Attack of the Clones is my least favorite Star Wars film. But I kinda enjoy making fun of it along with Phantom Menace. I'm not afraid to say that I even own this film on Blu ray, DVD, and VHS. I don't know why I do it. I think I'm just a huge Star Wars nerd.
The Phantom Menace sucks as well. But I can say it at least looked like a f**king movie. With props, sets, and an okay balance of CG and practical effects, and it did have a few entertaining moments such as the Pod race or the Darth Maul fight (despite the fact it held no emotional depth or weight to it). I cannot think of a single moment in Clones that even slightly entertained me or left me with something.
Wow damn great review :)
The clone troopers were discontinued after revenge of the sith for money reasons. Thats why the stormtroppers talk differently in the originals.
This one is irritating because of wasted potential...hear me out...Through out a good 3/4 of the movie but start with Obi Wan is on a mission with Anakin ala the Clone Wars TV show and they get seperated, and Dooku is the one who captures them and explains why he left the Jedi Order and what's going on with Palpatine, Dooku is not a Sith but he's a true neutral jedi one who's in touch with both sides and when that happen he learned the truth of Palpatine but no one on the Council would believe him in part because the Order has become corrupt and stiff necked with Mace Windu being that representation, now Palpatine wants Dooku dead since he knows the truth. Now Anakin is on a mission to learn the truth because Dooku explains his relationship to him, Obi Wan, and Qui Gon and that Qui Gon went to Naboo because Dooku said the answer was there...and that is Jar Jar was a sith who played the Buffoon in order to start a war to get Naboo back for the Gungans because he believes the Naboo stole the planet from them and Qui Gon learned that but Darth Maul Killed him. Now Obi Wan mean while is trying to find Anakin but he and the Jedi Order are constantly butting heads because Obi Wan thinks Dooku may have turned Anakin but he can be saved but the Council's all nah take them both out. So what happens is Obi Wan trying to figure out what the right thing to do is. All the while the Clone Army and the Droids conduct their war because Palpatine does a false flag by blowing up the Senate and framing the Seperatists, and Jar Jar who manipulated Padme into becoming a Senator gives Palpatine his power. How's that for a much more interesting story?
In case anyone's wondering, the song in the beginning is "Movie Score" by Jeffrey Peterson.
0:33 “ it’s not very interesting to look at”
Me, laying my eyes upon Hayden Christensen and Ewan McGregor: “Wrong!”
BeccaRaptor94 To be fair, it hasn’t aged well unlike the original trilogy.
Honestly as a child i LOVED these movies and as a teenager almost adult i can say i still LOVE these movies now. Yes the dialogue can sometines be a bit bland and the actors could have been better chosen but i actually enjoy the political talks and love to see anakin slowly turn more and more deranged. I don't know maybe its just the nostalgia talking but i cant help but smile when i watch these movies.😄
you made a really good point about revenge of the sith being the only one ppl should really watch. No need for a prequel trilogy, just that one film. Well done Doug/Rob
Heck, a very easy argument could be made that NONE of the prequels needed to happen.
+Mizticall Clone Wars, either the old one or the CGI one. Then Revenge of the Sith. There, good prequels. :P
+Mizticall George should have had just split the events of episode 3 into three movies, so there would be time for proper character development so when Anakin finally becomes Darth Vader, people would care.
1:15 Jedi forming attachments gets in the way of mastering the force and all prioritizes as a jedi must be towards the force, not family, not love, etc.
Nah, that was just something that Lucas retconned into the prequels to try and make his shitty love story more interesting. Spoiler alert. It didn't work.
vsGoliath Didn't Yoda say something like that in Episode 5? He was trying to convince Luke to continue his training.
Name 5 good things in The Phantom Menace:
1. Liam Neeson and Ewan McGregor are awesome in their roles.
2. The Podrace
3. John Williams' Duel of the Fates Soundtrack
4. The Duel of the Fates Lightsaber battle
5. Darth Maul
Name 5 good things in Attack of the Clones
1. Yoda VS Count Dooku
2. ...........
5 good things in attack of the clones
Natalie Portman in sexy outfits
Anakin murdering people after his mother died
Obi Wan getting blown up by Jango Fett
Less Jar Jar
It's so boring that you will fall asleep through most of it so it makes the movie feel a lot shorter
1.Corusant Speeder Chase
2.Kamino Sub plot
3.the scene with Anakin and his mother
4. Jango Fett
5. The Battle of Geonosis
Matt Thornton 1. Droid Factory scene
2. Opening chase scene
3. Anakin murdering sandpeople
4. Seismic charges in space
5. Fighting giant creatures
Holy shit! It's so nice to hear someone feels the same way I do. I have seen this as the worst of the prequels as well, but I always seemed alone in that. I gave Phantom a little bit of a pass considering it was the first part of a 6 hour movie basically. But this was where it showed the series was truly doomed.
First, maybe it's just because I'm a huge star wars geek, but I follow the politics in these movies just fine. Naboo elects queens for a term, during which they have the power any queen would have. After the term ends, Naboo elects a new queen.
I take it back. The main reason I understand the politics is definitely because I am a star wars geek.
Either way, while I have no defense for they love scenes (they just plain suck) I actually like just about everything else in the movie. Just my opinion.
But is fun or interesting? No they´re not, and that´s the reason why everyone dont follow politics in star wars.
@@fenomozo9108
That's subjective
The deathsticks scene is the only scene I remember from that movie and the only one worth remembering. The worst part is I watched the movie at least 100 times as a kid and still that's all I remember.
Ok, what's wrong with the politics? I was a kid when I saw this and I could follow the politics just fine. Was I a kid genius?
The acting made the politics hard to follow. The politics of the CW are easier to follow because they made up for that
@@northchurch753 fair enough
Attack of the Clones is a mixed bag. On one hand, it has some thrilling action sequences, particularly the arena battle on Geonosis. The visuals are also impressive, with the CGI landscapes and creatures adding a sense of scale to the galaxy far, far away.
However, the film suffers from a clunky script that relies too heavily on convoluted political machinations. The romance between Anakin and Padme feels forced and lacks chemistry, making it difficult to invest in their relationship.
Overall, while Attack of the Clones has its moments of excitement, it falls short in terms of storytelling and character development.
I tried watching this last night and I had to stop half way through because I almost fell asleep. The Phantom Menace was alright, at least it had decent progression. I can get past the gungans and Jar Jar specifically, so other than that there isn't really much wrong with it. Episode II I agree is the worst of the bunch because it was basically part shitty love story and part game of clue that was never resolved in Episode III (which in my opinion is actually good).
According to the Expanded Universe, Jedi are supposed to have an open mind and keep things in ballance. If you hold one person in higher regards than others (say, friendship or love) , it clouds your judgement and can cause disaster. The Jedi basically ban emotion, all of them.
As for the clone troopers/stormtroopers debate, apart from a select few, all stormtroopers were just regular people that were hired, this was because Clones aged at an increased rate (reaching adulthood in only 10 years). An exception was Vader's personal hit-squad, the 501st Legion.
But...I like the politics
yeah that's what makes me laugh about that complaint in phantom menace, that the council and republic meetings are boring, I'm just like you do know that the original trilogy had an empire right which means no real deliberating whereas this is a time of democracy where it's actually important to the plot
+Josiah Vock
Yeah, but that was all explained a lot simpler, with a lot of visual suggestion, in the original trilogy.
When I'm seeing the politics happen in the prequels, I feel like I'm watching Question Time in space.
Mayeur000Donz
to be fair i went on to really enjoy the phoenix wright games so maybe i just like law and politics?
*****
I guess you're that niche market who it works for, then. And that's fine. :~) Don't let anyone take that away from you.
Mayeur000Donz
i always stand by my opinions, I'm happy to hear other opinions but mine don't change easily, on numerous occasions I've actually softened people's thoughts on episode 1 though so y'know maybe I'm just a bit special
Let's be real for a second. Hayden actually did hit some very good notes during the scene with Padme when he tells her he killed the sand people. Yes, the dialogue is awful, but he REALLY nailed the emotions of an angry, hurt teenager. Go back and just rewatch that one scene. Credit where it's due.
What gets me about the love story is that, there really was no reason to make it such a huge thing. It's not like anything set it up in the original trilogy-for all we knew, Anakin just had a one night stand and his mom sent them for adoption (did they even say they were twins? Cause it would actually make more sense if there were two mothers I think). Would anyone mind if it was just a sub-plot? If Anakin just happened to have a wife? Look, I'm just saying, this isn't a romantic comedy, if you ain't good at writing romance, nobody's making you and especially not making it the core of our protagonist's entire character arc.
+Markus Criticus Vader says they are twins in Return of The Jedi.
"Your feelings for them are strong especially for... sister. So, you have a twin sister. Your feelings have now betrayed her too. Obi-Wan was wise to hide her from me, now his failure is complete. If you will not turn to the dark side then perhaps she will".
Tank207 Right. I watched it dubbed (before you say anything, Americans REMAKE foreign movies and some of them are just in British English) and in Czech, I think he just says "You have a sister." My bad.
Markus Criticus Ah I see
"Australian accents" XD, I am sure the Kiwis would love that.
I'm sorry but Ford (Han Solo) was THE best part about Star Wars for me. Nothing about him seemed ''hokey''. Ford portrayed the character exceptionally well.
+Abbas Khan He was perfect in TFA aswell.
I loved Attack of the Clones when I was a kid, it was my first Star Wars film and it got me into the series. Funny enough I tried to rewatch Attack of the Clones recently; 5 minutes, I went 5 minutes before saying "FUCK THIS."
Imagine not being able to follow the story to the prequels, just pay attention and it makes sense
That's just it though. They're so boring they become harder to pay attention to. The first SW movie I ever saw was ROTS and yet I fully understood everything, despite the fact it was the 3rd movie in a prequel trilogy. That's a problem for the other 2 because it makes the other 2 pointless
Well at least we have a bunch of information the majority of the fandom won't know about since the majority will care about the movies and not the extended universe how is this better than the sequels again
Jedi cant fall in love for the same reason Catholic Priests cant, it distracts from their priorities they need to do
Same sentiment. I get through Phantom Menace easily, but AOTC is gruesome at times to get through.
I like these two films, Episode 1 and 2, and 3 for that matter. My reason is that they show more worlds in these films other than, you know, a desert, a swamp, the north pole, you get the gist. I mean how cool would it be if there actually was an entire planet that was one ginormous city? It'd be one hell of a toxic place to live, but the just the thought of the grand scale astonishes me. But that's just me, I enjoy the adventures of new lands to explore.
I imagine the reason why these movies exist is to establish something in the first trilogy. Episode 1 establishes Anakin Skywalker. Episode 2 establishes the bounty hunter and the clone army used in the empire(I mean, seriously, there are no faces identifying that they are regular humans in the first place.). Episode 3 links it all together.
And that Palpatine's takeover plot began at a very early stage. All that political talk often gives what Palpatine wants: Supreme Chancellor and a giant army.
+Melcadrien Anikan: Not just the men... but the women.. and the children to!
Me: BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!
This is the one I don't remember at all. I can't remember what the story is, who's in it, absolutely nothing is memorable to me.
All I remember from it was the Yoda fight
+Jonathan Oosterhof It's awful. Be glad that you can't remember it. I wish I could forget that this movie happened.
+Jonathan Oosterhof At least this paved way for the Clone Wars. Both the 2003 and 2008 series.
I don't disagree with Doug necessarily but there are some pretty great parts in this movie. When Anakin unleashes his hate the music swelling is good stuff, the duel between ObiWan and Fett has some good tight dramatic shots. The subsequent asteroid chase (*Cue Lucas saying something about poetry rhyming*) has some incredible audio and visual effects in the sonic torpedoes or whatever they were. Then at the end I did like the battle in the arena when the Jedi's charged, we haven't seen anything like that yet, and the fight in the dark between Anakin and Dooku was supposed to be, well, "dark" (Cue* Lucas po-)
I agree. This is my least favourite Star Wars movie to. Sure there is less Jar Jar & kid Anakin isn't in it, but is replaced by a guy that equally sucks as Anakin. In the first movie, you didn't have to sit through all that awkward cringeworthy love dialogue, PLUS THE FIRST MOVIE HAS DARTH MAUL!!
1:00 - 1:04 Stated by Padme that when her term was up she was chosen by her people due to her leadership skills to replace Palpatine as Naboo's senator.
1:12 - 1:16 The Jedi code states that emotions can cloud one's judgement and love especially so as it can lead one to the dark side which uses emotions to tap into it's power.
1:23 - 1:34 Clones were phased out not long after the empire came to power due to their advanced growth and aging and they replaced by recruits and conscripts with the remaining clones forced into retirement. Even if you didn't know that you could guess there was a change by Episode IV.
Seriously Doug, there's not caring and not paying attention to dialogue SAID IN THE MOVIE.
Even though this is my least favorite Star Wars movie, I still like this movie. Hell, It's better than every other shitty movie from the early 2000s!
4:29 well, considering this takes place about 20 years before star wars a new hope, when you think about it it kinda makes sense for why something would resemble the 50s.
"senator palpatine decides to form a clone army"
nothing about this sentence is accurate.
CHANCELLOR palpatine manipulates jarjar to get the senate to vote on whether they want to use the already created clone army as their army.
now, technically palpatine used dooku to use syfo dias to make the army, but that was more behind the scenes manipulation.
jeez NC atleast pay attention to the movie
"...which will eventually become the storm troopers"
uhhhh also no. clones age 2x as fast and thus are old by the time of new hope. most storm troopers are regular guys.
+FasolatiWhitamen hence the "bullshit poitical talk nobody can follow and nobody gives a fuck about"
+Roei Potash AKA Poihpio
if you actually pay attention its not that hard, and it is very interesting, palpatines plot in thr prequels is very impressive
he always mentions how hard it was to follow these movies, yet i was able to understand all that stuff at the age of 11 when i first saw this movie,
this is my favorite one outta the Prequels
and just to add more fuel to the fire Clone Troopers are NOT Storm Troopers.
remember kids to do your research or else you might tick off a couple hundred fans
You forgot one other detail in the first two prequel. There's no sense of urgency in ANYTHING. It's like they forgot that the point of the movie was in the title: "Star Wars." Where was the War in Star Wars? In the original trilogy, they were in the middle of a civil war! Everything was urgent. Episodes 1 and 2 had minimal conflict. Episode 1 was supposed to be the meeting of Anikin and Obi-Wan during a trade conflict. Episode 2 was a lead up to the actual Clone Wars. No urgency in either movie because everything was more conspiracy than genuine "Holy shit, this is bigger than me" conflict. Of the Star Wars prequels, episode 3 was the only one that had an actual war going on! That's why it was the best of the prequels (even though it was still a bad movie). There was a REAL conflict going on. It was an actual war they were fighting.
+sonochamp That's because the real war is happening much more subtly in the guise of a figure named Palpatine. Besides, Star Wars is more than just wars and action pieces. It can be anything really.
At least we get cool bounty hunter that actually does some cool stuff other than just stand around for most his screen time only to be knocked into the Sarlac Pit by a disoriented Han.
Revenge of Sith was probably my favorite Star wars film to be honest.
(I mean unless 7 is better I don't know yet)
Then you have terrible taste in movies.
Eh I like the prequels more, more world more politics. More fights. Less meh.
entropino Okay, maybe you can help me understand this. People seem really split on the fight scenes from the prequels. Some call them awesome, some call them terrible. I'm one of the latter. I see them as tensionless, emotionless, and overly-choreographed. No depth to them. I'd like to hear what you like about the fights.
***** Not biased if almost complete general consensus holds that the prequels were a travesty to all things Star Wars. There's fanfiction that's better then these awful movies. It honestly amazes me that anyone can defend them, not just as Star Wars movies, but as movies in general. That's how bad they are.
vsGoliath The weaponry(technology) and the armies are interesting and look better. How different forces clash looks quite interesting. The light saber battles utilise the force much more and are more varied.(dodging using environment to advantage etc.)
You should give the 2D animated hour long Clone Wars specials a look. They originally aired on Cartoon Network, and I loved them as a kid. Hell, I liked the universe they (sort of) laid out in Attack of the Clones, and those shorts expanded it for me and gave me a better idea of what the Clone Wars were. I'd argue that they're far better than Episode I and II combined. It's mostly action scenes, but they're really well done action scenes. The scene with General Grievous at the end of the first part still gives me chills to this day.
No, do not skip Attack of the Clones. Why? Because the two Clone Wars cartoons add so much more development to Anakin and Obi-Wan and actually show why Obi-Wan referred to Anakin as a good friend twice in the OT. Also, they're both great cartoons (Rebels as well).
I also disagree, 1 is still the worst. I can't define that film as "so bad, it's good" because Jar Jar is JUST THAT ANNOYING. Also, Hayden's performance is bad, but still more tolerable than Jake Lloyd (Jake: Sandstorms are very, very dangerous. YYIIPPEEEEE!!! x2, let's try spinning that's a good trick!, etc.). Granted, I think Lucas' directing caused most of the bad acting from virtually everyone but even then I'll take horny, angsty 19-year old over obnoxious little brat. Also, the mystery of what Obi-Wan was investigating was somewhat interesting. True, the final reveals don't make sense (no way Palpatine could have predicted all this) but it's better than the absolutely nothing "plot" of Episode 1. Finally, as someone who got sick of these movies' massive erection for Tantooine (seriously, a vast galaxy and we have to visit this shithole for four, technically five, of them?!) at least Episode 2 spends less time on there than 1.
doctordoom85 I fully agree.
I think - going out on a limb here - the Brits may be better at giving performances with weirder dialogue because of theatre. Ian McDiarmid is a Shakespearean actor, and while McGregor and Lee haven't done much theatre, the British school of acting is still heavily influenced by theatre and Sheakespeare. Now I'm not saying Americans don't do theatre or Shakespeare because they obviously do, but it's just a completely different relationship with acting. I think it might also have something to do with the fact that British people are naturally understated, whereas Americans are more emotional, and this transfers to acting methods as well.
The Phantom Menace is definitely worse than Attack of the Clones. The pod racing scene was fun, and the light saber fight was pretty cool, but that's it. Clones has the arena scene, which is fun, and the light saber fight that was pretty cool also. That balances out the best parts of Phantom Menace. The asteroid belt scene was pretty cool too. And as painful as the dialog was between Anakin and Padme, there's no way bad writing is worse than the bad acting Jake Lloyd and the non-stop annoyance of Jar Jar. The Obi Wan storyline in Clones may not have been great, but it was far more interesting than attempt at a story in Phantom Menace.
Well I honestly got way more emotion from anakin mourning his mother when Luke found Owen and beru dead hell I even teared up
You can just skip this film and watch Star Wars:the clone wars cartoon instead
You suck man. This movie is great.
Well to you many others it is
ya, and i am sick of these stupid bastards who keep bashing the prequel movie's because it's not what they thought it would be.
Just don't watch The Clone Wars movie, I made the mistake of watching the movie and I was so terrible, I could not get into the series. Not saying the cartoon was bad just the movie.
Ive heard that there are edits of the movie without any romantic scenes, it makes the movie much more concise and to the point. Making it much better, and MUCH more watchable.
clone troopers and storm trooper are not the same. they stopped producing clones after the clone wars.
Brandon Lyon Four years before the Battle of Yavin, all clones had been decommissioned from the Imperial Army. Nonetheless, a few clones remained in Imperial service acting as training instructors for the next generation of stormtroopers
+Majin Akuma I think Doug isn't really that familiar with Star Wars beyond the movies
+Kyle Shea Neither are most casual fans; this is the problem with the prequels, so many things are explained away out of context of the films.
1:20 ohh, someone didn't get his facts straight... clone troopers are NOT the same as stormtroopers
Both episode 1 and 2 aren't very good, but out of the 2, I still think Episode 1 is worse.
klimmr3021 I'd say episode 1 has more bad things in it, but it also has more good things. (the pod race,the lightsaber fight etc.) and episode 2 is SO fucking pointless and boring and it has no good scenes in it. The only part of episode 2 I enjoy is the part where c-3p0 is shooting people on the droid body. And that's a 5 second scene. Everything in episode 2 is either awful or incredibly boring
klimmr3021 For me, at least there are some real hard-earned effort on Episode 1, balancing practical effects with CGI. Episode 2 just reeks of laziness, with numerous blue screens, more static acting and CGI overkill.
I like the opening scenes (including the chase) and the closing ground battle/duels. The 1 1/2 Hours in between are basically glued together by Obi-Wans scenes on Kamino and Geonosis (which has the most atmospheric locations and best dialogue (Obi Wans chat with Dooku is easily the best of the lot) as well as those frigging seismic charges!), also there is some nostalgia to found to be during the Scenes on the Lars-Moisture-Farm. Heck, Shmi Skywalkers' Death Scene is pretty touching too... and of course there are Ewan McGregor, Ian McDiarmid and the always awesome Christopher Lee doing their best (I'd even add Temuela Morrison, who is genuinely good as Jango Fett, even though he doesnt do much and gets offed pretty easily)
But aside from that: Stilted dialogue, no chemistry between Portman and Christensen, questionable motivation on Padmes side to even fall in love with Anakin in the first Place (I get that Anakin is socially awkward with him being a Jedi and all and not knowing how to express himself towards a woman, but Padme? The ex-queen, seasoned diplomat and politician Padme? (I dunno, maybe she just said "Aw hell!" at some point and gave up because she wanted to get laid badly or something)). And then there are the often extremely awkward tonal shifts and (probably worst of all) the Threepio-Scenes on Geonosis.
John Williams really tried to give this Movie an impressive Score and he provides an absolutely beautiful love Theme and some fantastic Action writing, but his work was butchered in post-production or even outright replaced by preexisting Music from TPM.
why do people always think a new zealand accent is australian?
MrBenjamino they're completely different, people just don't realise that for some reason. I'm Australian, so I would know
Mysterygamer175 I'm a New Zealander, i know to they are totally different
MrBenjamino Same with some people thinking a Brummie accent sounds posh
Probably the same way in which many people confuse American and Canadian accents.
Channel Blaino no one does.
I've never even thought of Revenge of the Sith as a movie on its own, I've only ever thought about it in context to the rest of Star Wars. Oh my god, you're completely right.