Choosing The Right Skateboard Is A Waste Of Time
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- Опубліковано 28 лют 2021
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Ben degros looking at this video title: and I took that personally
😂lmfao
Lol, Ben is the man
+1 Ben.Degross
Totally dig Irving’s clairo shirt
What do you mean aliens?
tell me youre a soft boi without telling me youre a soft boi
yes that clairo shirt
I love what you guys are doing! Such a fun idea to skate each other’s setups. And I agree 100% on not wasting time finding the perfect setup. I tell people all the time on my channel that you won’t know what you like until you just start skating different boards! No need to waste time when you could be out riding!
Right, but basically you are saying just 'try other setups', which really is the only reasonable thing to do. You _have_ to try other setups to figure out what works best. And everyone has their own preference in this. So, I 100% believe skateboard deck setup does matter. Just a few months ago I bought an 8.25" with a tail that was too short. The size itself was perfect, but the tail _literally_ made it unskateable. There's no way you'd adjust to a tail you just always have to pop on the out edge that's too short. It's a physical limit. I've since then picked up a cheap Mini Logo 8.25" to see if that was better and it's like 100x improved. So much so, I might consider sticking with Mini Logo decks for a while. (Until Santa Cruz / Creature Everslick decks in size 8.25" are in stock, I love those).
@@PHeMoX Perfect example of what I mean! The board you hated might be one that someone else loves. We’re all different with different preferences and you won’t figure out yourself until you just pick something and start skating. I teach beginners how to skate on my channel and I think way too many get hung up on their first or even second board choice trying to find the “perfect one” when the reality is they’re still not even comfortable enough to know what feels best for them. I skated for a few years as a kid and took roughly 20years off before coming back last year. Oddly enough, It wasn’t until I did a review of an Amazon board that I found the perfect shape for me. Going to stick with that for a while since it’s reasonably priced as well. Eventually I’ll start trying other decks again to confirm if I stick with the same or change again.
@@PHeMoX , my first board was used. The tail was razored down to three inches on one side, two inches on the other. By the time the tail touched the ground, the board was nearly vertical. I learned to ollie on that board. Got it up over two feet high. When I got my next board I had to bring my front foot way back, towards the rear truck, when setting up to ollie, so that the board would go super rocket. Eventually I got to normal ollies.
Setup doesn't matter.
@@OMNIPHEAST Dang that’s intense! But agree 100% that setup shouldn’t limit you especially when starting out. As long as the board doesn’t break you’re good to go!
@@PHeMoX, depending on the trucks you were skating on that board it's possible that's what made it unskateable. I wish more skate UA-camrs would talk about wheelbase and how that plays a bigger role than even the width of a deck.
I use to skate tight trucks then one day my tight trucks became loose trucks and I never bothered tightening them 🤷♂️
Loose trucks - 10/10
Tight trucks - 0/10
I ride the hardest bushings with the tightest trucks possible. But i also have a really short wheelbase so that evens it out. Like it feels stable setting up but the fact that my wheels are closer in still give me good turn regardless
I ride tight trucks but it definitely has to do with the fact that I am a bigger guy lol I weigh 180 but only after i take a big shit.
@@jiggnorth3593 I’m clocking in at 200 lbs and 5’5” tall; tight trucks to everyone else is actually just medium loose when I stand on it. Compressed center of gravity. Riding rattle loose effectively changes the boards width to the width of the base plates. I get the appeal, extra agility in the body to carve out out landings. Just remember God loves tight trucks as well as those loose as an old pair of sweatpants with a broken waistband.
Same.
@@guyfromthatthing1017 right, I'm 6'3" myself.
"I like my board heavy tall and wide" I've never heard that from a single skater in my whole life been skating for 10 years respect his preference doe love the individuality in skating
he must've started skateboarding that way and never tried something else
Wheelbase is the most important thing to keep consistent, everything else you get used to relatively quickly
tight trucks are cool until you try getting used to loose trucks and then you can never go back
Correct, but it works both ways. If you want to do toe flips, pressure flips and maybe stuff like old school kick flips, you're going to want the trucks to be tight or at least medium level tight. If you do a lot of 180 based tricks though, having loose trucks might be a life saver preventing a LOT of tic tac landings. So yeah...
When he hit us with the wife Swap I spit my coffee all over my new couch and my wife got soooo mad at me 🤣 that got me so good cuz the timing was impeccable 😎 love the vids.
The make doing grinds look so easy
@ClearCreekCounty NeedsAskatepark huh?
"You dont need anything specific" then proceeds to list every specific detail about their setup
Love your videos it inspires me to try different setups and to fine tune my own thanks a lot can’t wait for the next vid!!
So nice whatching you guys skate, everything looks easy!! Love the chilled vibes and maybe if you can, show us learning some new tricks or a difficult one keep it up guys 🙌🏼
Can we do a video with no bushings.
By “we” I mean y’all 😂
as a non-american person i find y'all the weirdest word ever
I ve been skating 8.5 with Thunder 149 and 53 full conical for the past 10 years.
I just bought a new set up with 8.25 Indys 144 and 52 mm classic shape wheels. I can't wait to try something new.
I have gone down the setup rabbit hole and have probably spent more time learning setups than learning new tricks. Currently skating some Grind King Disruptors and it very different than my thunders. Trying to stick with them for a bit and give them a fair shake.
I just switched to 8.5 loose indies on 54mm wheels from tight thunder low hollows on 51mm wheels and it changed skating for me. The taller wider and looser truck just turns soo easy and i feel like with landing you can get away with more if you flow with it, where tighter trucks throw you off the board. Also the wheels , i noticed the heft in weight which helped ollies for me somehow. And just more speed/momentum. you can ride over rougher ground and haul ass. I totally get what he means by his board being a monster truck lol
The road to 100k! Thanks for another sick one !
The ending is getting better lmao 😂
Interesting video! Was a good watch!
Those fakie tres were quite tasty too
"Flick That Thang" sounds like if Ying Yang Twins dropped a new track 😂
9:58 feels like couple therapy
This is making me stoked for the deck that I’m gonna set up
i would not have as much fun without my current set up. grosso w/indy 169s extra hard bushings. bones 51s 103s. mob and bronsons with the nike janos.
I have two 8.25 VX McCoy’s one on 148 Thunders and the other with 149 Indy’s but I put risers on my Thunders not the other way.
I give Irvin’s a 5.5/10 risers on Indys (really)
Zach 6.5/10 due to over tight trucks. I use to ride bones bushings until they don’t last more than a few months. Now I use Indy Conicals you will love them.
I just get decks for the shape now and thunder trucks that fit (low or high). Any small wheels usually 52mm and any bearings
I was skating an 8.25 on my Indy 149’s with 52mm ricta’s, bronson raw bearings. Kept everything the same, but sized my deck up to 8.5 and it feels way better on my size 13’s
Irving's setup 6.022/10
Zach's setup 7.67269/10
Zac's convert to bigger wheels! That pop!
I have a Flip neon team logo board, think it’s 8.5 maybe? or 8.25 w Indy’s n stereo 52’s pretty sure. I usually like 8.5 w 55’s is pretty standard to go between street n park. easy
way to go guys keep it up!
Thank you guys
My setup is krux trucks 8.0 with baker 7.879 with spitfire 53mm because I like my board as light as it can be
Didn’t know Irving was pro 😱
Now you know what’s been known 😂🤣
I thought it was Josh Katz in the thumbnail for a second 😂
zac's board is my vibe
I give you both a 10 keep killing It
What is the advantages of having a heavier board?
I skate a very similar skate setup to zac. I skate different trucks. But, I’m thinking I might loosen my trucks. When I land it kinda looks the same as when Irving was skating zac’s board.
Facts I bought a board for a trip to Europe broke it in 5 mins after arriving there lol
Totally Dig Irving's Clairo Shirt!
I don't know if it's possible but linking Bluetiles site and Irving's board sponsor would be cool 🤷 great video keep killing it!
Irving's set up I give a 6 just cuz I'd be curious to try, Zach's set up a 9 just cuz its so similar to my set up, Zach had a traditional set up, Irving has a tweaked to his liking set up which is cool too
I'm rating Irving's shoes 10/10!
Also, Irving had the task of breaking in Zac's bushings...
Yeah also Zach realized his trucks were tighter than usual too lol. Oh well 🤷🏻♂️
Zach rides a board like me, medium tightness closeness how ever you wanna say it lol, but only difference is my trucks are Indy 144s, and ice been on 54s lately but gonna go back to the 52 53 range, I could NEVER ride Irving's set up, I'm an 8.25 guy as of like 7 years ago lol, before then it was 8 the. 7.75 and yeah you guys know how it goes lol, but Irvings set up is just insane, 149 indys on an 8.25 is crazy even with an 8.5 I'll ride 144s
Almost every time I'm at the park i see a newbie and I tell them to LOOSEN THEIR TRUCKS
Also I love him finding out how awful thunder trucks are
I love these videos
I bought a quasi board comparing to thekillingfloor skateboards and HOLY SHIT. A 8.375 quasi board is AMAZING
With Irv, it’s impossible to skate tighter trucks, but actually fun to skate super loose ones. I think Dae Won led a lot of people to find that out.
i dont have loose trucks i just have ripped bushings and im too lazy to find some i like.
For me every brand felt like a slightly different shape.... Couldn't notice from looking at the board tho I had to skate them to get a feel for the shape.... But I kinda settled for girl decks idk why but the shape always works for me
loose trucks save lives
Zach looks better with the big wheels/ loose trucks
Irving has the same setup as me pretty much
i see those blondey superstars irving 1:52
Irving should try 8.38 i ride 149 thunders with an 8.38 and it feels so.sick
i want that clairo shirt irving
Zac looks kinda like Josh Katz in the thumbnail
🔥🔥🔥
I'm on 8.375 at the moment but I'm definitely going back to 8.5
Edit: Back on 8.5 so happy I'm back
what shoes irving got on
Zac with mustache looks like an old man. Without he looks a lot younger. Funny I always thought he is old. Dunno about the actual age though.
And totally agree with title and thumb btw.
Irving’s setup: 8
Zach’s setup: 6
Zack needs to skate Indys man big boy gang shit
5:10 fakie junt
Choosing the right skateboard is a waste of time.
Ur right that u should be able to skate anything but i will say that sizes matter. Like u dont wanna skate a 7.63 for big boy stuff
i dont think so, I went to 8.5 and found gaps so much easier
@@MrTripsJ I'm on a 8.25" now and that size is perfect for me. There's no way it wouldn't matter. And I also had a cheap 8.25" just to try out the size, but the shape and most notably the size of the tail was off, too short, so I kept sliding off the tail edge basically. So even within the size range, the board shape itself truly _does_ matter a lot. I really disagree with the whole video to be honest. My 'perfect' skateboard deck would probably be the Andy Anderson shape, but in size 8.25". Unfortunately I have the 8.45" A Anderson Flight deck which is awesome, but for a beginner trying to learn flip tricks it's a bit too big really. And it's not even about flipping it. It's more about the overall weight of the setup. It quickly adds up in a bigger size deck.
@@PHeMoX 🤷♂️ loads of people learn kick flips on 8.5+ shaped decks, don't worry about it you'll psyche yourself out
@@MrTripsJ my first board was an 8.5 deck and for my second board that I’m on the now is 8.59 I’ve skated my friends smaller decks and I’m not sure which I prefer but if I wanna go smaller I’m gonna need to get smaller trucks and a new deck which is annoying
Fun sesh
What size risers does Irving use?
1/8th!! Just the Lil guys
Agreed 👍
My thunders squeak the exact same lol
Take the bushings out and wax them.
most likely the pivot cup
@@hammmmrd already did
One thing I noticed is Zach usually lands on the front of his board when he does a trick and Irving usually land more towards the middle of his board
Another thing you guys should do to the walls so if you’re bored ever does hit the wall you should put foam around the bottom of the wall so if you’re bored hits the wall it won’t chip
Idea... skate you're own board, set up like normal, swap halfway through, then adjust, skate and adjust one more time.
mine was more like Irving's but i liked the graphics on zachs
Y do I have irving exact fit
This was very educational 🧐
Does anybody else out there re-shape their boards? I use the nose as my tail and i re-drill the truck holes of the actual tail back and use that as my nose. And then I saw off and sand the edges of the kicks and make them more square and less pointy. Rn I’m on a custom 8.4, 13.75 wb, 31” toy machine. So its wide and mellow but feels smaller and it kinda evens out
wtf
Ever ridden a welcome? Some of their square tail boards are interesting
@@floridaboy9641 yes. I’ve ridden nora’s board. Thing about wide square tails is that its less scoopy. But if its square and tapered like andy anderson’s board its all good
@@nanping5428 sounds weird but it looks like a normal board. Nobody ever asks about it or says it feels too different. If anything They just say “8.25?” Lol
heres a pic of it: (imgurdotcomslash)shguNCl(dotJPG)
I’m in the middle w 8.25 144 Reynolds and 53 mm
10 on both y'all set ups
It’s odd because the tighter trucks make it look like Zach is skating the way Irving usually skates. I’m so confused
Did Zach switch to Indy?
Ill stick with my G021 DECK, I LIKE MY DECK, ITS PERFECT 👌
Breaking in each other's board is this taboo
Yo what shoes was Irving wearing?
the blondey adidas
Asymmetrical skateboards are dumb though. I'm getting a symmetrical one next time.
I rate 10 stars for both set ups
shout out Clairo
8.25 gang
Wife swap aka THEE set up video! We finally did it
I don't think people realize that you're THEE Irving.
@@ssj4diamante lol it’s ok. :’) maybe one day I’ll be recognized as Irving...
i disagree with the title i went from skating mellow concave baker decks for years then decided to try a palace deck with a steep concave and it legit took like 3 weeks to get the timing on my tricks right.
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Yeah fosho
Their griptape setup style is the same as their skate style.
Irving Setup: 6/10 ITS A CHUNKY LAD
Zac: 9/10 looks smooth and simillar to my setup
Unless you only ride boards with souls (shaped decks)....
9:57 No. No he doesn't understand what you're saying😀
Hey
Who skates Suuuuuper loose trucks?! who skates Tight trucks?!
I rate it a 20
7 of 10
nobody:
me: after few mins of deciding.. ok ill get that one.....no no... i think. . the other one....Whaa-- XD