When you get into professional saws the answer is easy. Buy the brand that has the best dealer with the best customer service near you. That is where you’ll see the difference. Because both saws are awesome
I used the same principle for saws, and pickups.. what is the brand you see most in the bush, and where is the dealership? Tires for trucks , same thing .. plus when a dealer knows that you are coming to them for all trucks, saws , tires .. supplies .. you get better service and pricing. But , if they start not stepping up with servicing ,or think that they can pad pricing , I had no mercy .. in 95 I sent 12 1 yr old 1 tons back to a dealer in Northern Mantoba because they were waffling on an obvious factory engine design issue.. 3 rads because fan clutches.. a 18yr relationship with a multi national company toast..
they are both great products. I've had my Stihl for over 30 years and it runs like new. I had to replace my fuel line and air filter a couple of times and that's it. As for Huskies, I never owned one but friends of mine love them
Welcome to Wisconsin. You had an excellent host. Great comparison of the two saws. The bckground of the barn with the grapple holding a log and cutting on the rack is a Norman Rockwell Ansel Adams moment. Great video.
@bertbrei2950 There are a few cells in the video of a perfect post card shot of a beautiful scene of woid cutting in the woid yard. Layout was perfect, lighting was just right and Chios were flying
@@InTheWoodyard I think it comes from the word “hoosa” which is a native indian name for corn. But deep down it really means you’re an IU basketball fan and you miss Bobby Knight as coach 🤣
Can’t go wrong with either saw or either guy! I have had the pleasure of meeting you both. True woodhounds for sure! You two put together some great cutting action. 👍🏻👍🏻GNI
It's exactly as you say. I've worked with both Stihl and Husqvarna for many years, so it's hard not to notice it. In Stihl, contaminants get into the fuel and oil tanks much more easily than in Husqvarna. The former has a negative impact on work over time. engine and its service life. Many of my friends do not attach importance to this and the fuel tanks in their chainsaws resemble a miniature aquarium with a large number of fry. It is a pity that Stihl ignores this problem and does nothing about it, and the wood particles that get into the fuel tank will release cellulose over time under the influence of gasoline. and this is rather undesirable in the air-fuel mixture.
Always let your saw idle for a few seconds after a hard cut to allow the cylinder and rings to cool slowly. If you hear the muffler clicking from rapid cooling what do you think the cylinder and rings are doing.
Or just flood it when you kill it. Old saws cooled better under no load wot than idle. More oil means slicker which is cooler. That's why a lot of old fallers fire up a cold saw & let it scream right off the bat for 5 or so seconds.
Tim Ard and David Breedon, a Husqvarna factory rep/territory manager, did a video on this topic. You don't need to let the saws "idle to cool", in fact that actually makes them hotter and hurts the saw. Fuel mixture and the air intake, maintain the saw at design temperature ranges while in the cut at full throttle. The air intake moves air across the cylinder cooling fins at a rate much higher than at idle AND the fuel oil mixture also helps cool the cylinder. After stopping/turning off the saw, heat will soak, but it gets hotter if you let it idle for a long time AND the plug gets more fouled. The primary concern with heat soak, is the fuel in the carb heating (any brand saw). That is one reason it's helpful to have a fuel purge bulb, to circulate in cooler fuel from tank during hot start (also good if you run your saw empty on fuel...see hot start procedure in operator manual). You do you, but here's the video. Synopsis at 21:30. ua-cam.com/video/EnOPJC3eXTc/v-deo.htmlsi=wR-uJ_0-krveMK1b
Great video guys. The best part of the Stihl vs Husqvarna is the banter back and forth. I think Chris summed it up perfectly, the saw with the sharpest chain is the one I'm grabbing first. Here that happens to be a Stihl, haha! Look forward to watching more.
No fan boy of brands. But have the 592 only due to a had a hard on for the ms 500i but none around in Australia at moment. Spur of moment purchased the 592 out of nowhere. To be honest I'm just a normal guy with a job ( not a timber guy). Surprisingly I've cut over 15+ tonnes of Australian redgum 15-26 inches with a battery 18 inch ego chainsaw. Yep of course you need a years of wages for batteries it seems 😅. No I'm not saying there better here at all👍. I understand chain speed isn't everything but my big 592 spinning full noise 24 mtrs/ second. Battery saws these days are pulling 30 mtrs. Again as a timber person for a living no there not there, but wow keep those batteries up to them and they will surprise(yes if pushed batteries can heat and shut down.
Awesome day In The Woodyard guys! Really super enjoyed the video! Lots of big wood an carnage! Great chat about the saws an comparison! Looking forward to tomorrows video with 765! Cheers guys! GNI! Andrew from NB :)
Those are some nice Ash saws! I love my 592 and my 572. My Stilh 440 mag is a beast as well. It's all about the sharpness of the chain. The Huskys rev higher but the stihl does have that lowend torque. Nice video Chris.
@@thefirewooddoctor The 038 Super and Magnum and even the 61cc 038 had nice heavy cranks , clutches and flywheels. Plus, they were built for smooth torque. They weren't much fun to pack around. But they did cut Really well. The 038 Mag easily out cut the 044. My partner and I would race ours against each other. The 038 Mag always won by a fair amount.
22:07 You have done a quick measurement guess at this point to shorten the log. What have you been you looking for? There is no zip tie or similar on the saw. Just a guess from your experience?
I've found that when cutting along the grain -- instead of saw dust or chips the saw throws of piles of thin, long strips of wood. That stuff is well worth scooping up and saving in a feed bag -- because it makes excellent kindling. It catches easy, leave hot embers and I never had to add a second application -- it beats pine needles.
I prefer 24" most of the time, it allows a 48" cut and that will cut 99.85791% of all wood easily. Much easier in the brush, lighter, cuts faster, less teeth to sharpen and I hit the ground a lot less.
Welcome to The Woodyard, nice playing with the saws, great comparison in different aspects. As Tony says, “he has no Denomination on Brands of Chainsaws”. I was about to put my earmuffs on it was damn loud today, just turned the volume down😊
I own 3 different Husky's (all XP's") and I love these saws. I had a tree business and the Husky 41 I purchased back in 1997 is still running great with God only knows how many hours on it.
My 592 makes that exact same clicking noise from the muffler when I turn it off after a long cut I find it kind of neat. I also have the full wrap set up on mine as well. What would be a cool video to see is you putting your 592 up against a 395 Husqvarna
Are you still wanting a stihl 500i I found seen one today at the hardware store. I was thinking about getting it for my Firewood operation. I have a stihl 462 that I love. But thought about getting it where I could alternate.
They all get sloppy after a year or so of production. So much of it comes from being chucked around & fallen on, bucking big stuff can loosen up mounts & pto bearings. Best way to get longevity is to find good top/side plate angles foe your wood instead of running low rakers. Long bars really show the difference between a fast cutting chain that digs chunks & a fast cutting chain that takes out uniform shavings. The digger cuts fast in small wood but starts the bogging as driver count increases.
With both sitting on the ground it could have been nothing more than the difference in idle speed, what really matters is the difference in AV handles between the saw and the operator which IMHO the Husky has better AV.🤔
That was a nice presentation all around. Very good content, Very good camera and audio. P.p.e . Usage , Very good guest. The weather cooperated. Good information. Nice action. Very well done indeed. You made it look fun. . . . Somehow.
Great video, thanks. What was striking to me was when you shot the two saws running side by side on the ground. The Stihl vibrated significantly more than the Husqvarna. I would then think the Husqvarna would be easier or less taxing on the user. Also were those track marks on the ash result of the emerald ash borer?
Like design of the sawbuck. Preferance depends on which saw dealer is closest & which saw they prefer. Helped a comercial woodcutter, he was a stihl man. He said any time he was around Husky saws very long they had to go to shop for repair. Think a lot of it depends on operator. They are both good saws. Bought my Stihl 034 super in 1978 and it still has good compression, I only cut wood to run up my chimney and I never loan the saw out. That kioti is the best sawbuck.I like sugihara bars.
Chris, my wife loves the long sawdust from ripping logs down….. it’s great for tinder to get the fire going when it’s dry! Maybe you could sell it with how much you have there! May be good pocket money for Burt’s kids!
Great video I subscribed to the 765 guys about an hour before I watched your video! It is so hard to call between Stihl and Husqvarna I have both as I cant decide.
That is one big wrap-around 'west coast' handle on that Huskie. I love that handle on my 066. Use it all the time for dropping trees. An option to think about when buying a new saw.
I have ran all 3 and to me the 395 is an old style saw that IF you like to fix and tinker a lot, that is the saw for you. The 661 and the 592 (I have ran at least 6 different ones of each) are very very similar.
A bucking sawesome time!!! Looks like fun. I plan on upgrading to a 90+ cc saw in the near future. I do love my ms462, but think I’ll enjoy the extra power of the ms661/ 592xp especially when cutting rounds larger that 24”. Happy Father’s Day weekend guys. Stay safe and have fun.
I guess its not all that much bigger then your 462 those are what 72cc I think but you can get the rental Makita saws from Home Depot pretty cheap. I paid $250 for mine. They are a 65cc class saw but you can put the top end from their 79cc or 78cc whatever it is on that saw so for $350-400 range you can have around an 80cc saw. Mine is a 6421 is the model think they call it something else now I have had it a few years. Was like new still when I got it other then the bar was painted orange assuming they do that so you know its a HD owned saw. Everything is the same though on the saw other then the top end so you can buy the OEM piston and cylinder for the bigger saw. They make another saw that is right in the middle of the 2 too that you can use that top end as well but since you already have a 462 probably don't need another saw the same size. There is aftermarket big bore stuff too so you get a little over 80cc but I would stick to the OEM stuff
Hi, I have a Husqvarna 380 CD that I bought in 1977, in my gorilla weight lifter days. lol. I liked it so much I became a Husqvarna dealer. It runs and cuts like the day l bought it. They are the only saws for me. I bought the 592XP last year. I haven't even started it yet. At seventy four, with back problems, I am starting to doubt my purchase. Hmmm: W😮hat to do?
One of the other issues with the Stihl flippy caps is they are recessed in the tank which holds more debris and more difficult to wipe away before opening the cap contributing to the caps leaking, I prefer Husky flippy caps.
I have a stihl 661 on our channel I run 50-50, non-ethanol gas, and race fuel in all of my saws to keep them from guming up the carburetor ! I love the saw, but man is it a work out after several hours of cutting. Haha
What ive found after being an owner of both husky and stihl ( up to 661 ) is the fact that you can do all sorts of things to the stihl, wcs style and egan+maxflow. Husqvarna has some beautiful saws man, and they are in my eyes more reliable. A big bonus is their 550xpg, which imo is unbeatable.
@@InTheWoodyard Husqvarna saws are more reliable. I've had a 262 XP for 21 years, it's never been in the repair shop. I did put a new clutch spring in it. It still has the original NGK plug. My next saw is the 592 XP. I really don't care for that primer bulb, it's something that will eventually dry out, and have to be replaced.
@@ricktaylor3748that just means the saw hasn't got much footage under its belt. After a single season of being tossed around the fall & buck in say SE Oregon, everything gets tired. Screws won't stay tight, mounts fatigue & won't stay tight, caps won't stay tight, plastics are wearing thin, then of course, the engine. After millions upon millions upon millions of mbf have been slain, everything is just tired And the best way to wear yourself out for no good reason is to run a tired saw. Accuracy decreases and you start missing corners & cutting Russians. Plus the more life left in a saw upon retirement means better parts stock for keeping the show going. I've got a graveyard of 92cc stihls.
@@elonmust7470 We'll see. I bought the 592XP about 3 weeks ago. My 262 XP is still running strong, after 21 years of hard use. Just keep your saw maintained, it'll last for decades.
@@ricktaylor3748 Not in production falling it won't. Trees are unpredictable, every time a bucking cut binds up, yanks you & saw for an instant before the kerf opens up, you took some life out of mounting points, pto bearings, & piston skirts. I had a stem with multiple binds let go so violently that it took half of the saw with it & left me with handlebars carb & a gas tank. Ripped an already tired 046 mag completely in two.. i got out some safety wire & put it back together long enough to finish the day before going to the saw shop for a new beast. Every time you chuck the saw in order to avoid the unexpected, things get weaker. The port work that makes life easier makes skirts & bores live a shorter life. Every time your Dawgs let the saw fall off of a log and go bouncing down off of a 70' bluff into the f&b , things get weaker. Ever had to take your axe & chop your chain in two before your bound up saw gets smushed like a grape? That's why square chisel is so common out west, because it decreases the wear & tear associated with a grabby bind-happy chain, one that will kill a saw quick in real timber. When a guy clears $600+ foe the average 6 hrs behind the saw every day, a new saw every season isn't hardly anything to worry about!
Great comparison, I'd say they are about as equal as you can get. I was going to pull the trigger on a 661 because I get a lot of bigger tree service wood but I'm 53 going on 85 with my bad back and not knowing when too quit and usually can only cut wood after working all day so I decided on a MS 362 to work along side my 462 and Echo 620, the 362 felt like a feather compared to the 661 so I figure its worth the extra couple/few seconds over the much heavier 661.
They are two amazing saws. I have both and run them on a logosol f2+ chainsaw mill. The 661cm is 2 1/2 years old and has no mods and had no issues. The 592xp is about a year old and has no mods or issues. I will say the 592xp runs cooler
@woofy548 I think both of them call them high capacity clutch covers. Most people call them west coast covers. West coast saws sells a machined cover and that's what I have. They are very good quality but a little pricey.
I'm surprised neither of you talked about the vibration difference. In my opinion, the 592xp is smoother and vibrates less than the 661. The 592xp feels like a more refined and modern saw to me and the 661 feels more old school. If I'm bucking for hours I want a smooth saw.
They like cutting drags down, they don't care about vibration haha. These modern saws are all smooth as hell provided the chain is setup proper, AKA less digging & more slicing. Square chisel is the answer.
Hì Chris, I still have my Husqvarna 380 CD that I bought nearly 50 years ago. It runs like the day I bought it. I bought a new 592 XP last spring but haven't started it yet due to three bulged discs in my back. Bummer! Shalom/gw
@@InTheWoodyardI won't deny that I am biased. The Husqvarna gets the job done, I just don't like em. Not unlike Ford vs Chevy. They are both good, but the Ford is better. 👏🍿
I don’t know???? I probably should replace my ms660 soon (or maybe just use it as a dedicated milling saw). The 661 has a much lower tone and is quieter than the 592. The sound levels are from the spec sheets and from me personally using both saws. The husky is significantly louder and all my work mates notice how much louder the 592 is. Both great saws though.
It will void the warranty but get a respectable saw porter to work them over and it will be so much better and way more enjoyable to run. I hear that they will last longer too if done right and taken care of properly. I have several ported saws but dont use them enough to wear them out but yes both great saws especially ported
I like my stihls I just grew up with them and there is hardly any husqvarna dealers around. But the gas caps are crap the older screw in caps were way better.
One of the main reasons I prefer my Stihls. I do own Husqvarna, RedMax which is just a red Husqvarna, Makita, Echo, John Deere which I think is made by Echo, and an old Homelite. Stihl dealers are everywhere. I have one within a few min of my house. I only know of 1 Husqvarna dealer that is close by and its still nearly a half hour away and the guy that owns the shop is an asshole. Its the same at both of the other houses we have. Stihl everywhere. I guess there is one of those tractor supply type stores here that sells both Stihl and Husqvarna and not just homeowner stuff they have all the pro stuff in there but its a big box store. It used to be a Sams club place is enormous. Pretty sure they only do sales there at that big box store no repairs or anything. I don't know if they can order you parts probably I guess.
91.1 cc 7.2 BHP vs 93 cc 7.6 BHP 2 second diffrent. 661 CM 10 years old, but not bad. I don't know how fuel efficiency. But i like Hasqvarna 592xp with mat color 28" bar.
Chris, you looked tired after running a tank through that 661. Were I know I have seen you run multiple tanks through your 592 in the past. I have run a 660 before, and I knew it was not a saw I could run all day way to heavy.
It could be simple as the extra vibration the Stihl has, causing him to grip harder to hold on? The scene when both saws are idling it is obviously dancing around more or it could be differences in the bar designs themselves. Holding it different can cause fatigue also. It isn't always just about the weight...IMO
@steveyork8069 I just thought he looked tired. Just a observation from behind my screen. I know I have ran a 660 and it cut good but I got tired quick and I'm 25 years younger then Chris is lol.
Crazy how suddenly a guy's mood can change when firewood sells lile hotackes! To deliveries already this weekend, with a 3rd in the morning. Plus possibly a 4th delivery tomorrow after that! Gotta get in touch with my inner "Chris Carlson" and get the wood cut, split, snd stacked!
Sugi Hara and Tsumura bars are the very best bars you can buy. The Japanese steel is incredibly durable and will definitely outlast the stihl bars. I personally run Tsumura bars and I have never had a complaint. These bars are used every day in my tree care company and my firewood distribution yard. They get beat up and seem to love the abuse
Old Tsumaras are the best of the lot in my experiences. If you deal with long bars, a great indicator of quality is how much or rather how little they belly out on their sides. Even cannons aren't quite as good as they used to be. A 52" job that barely distorts is a fine piece of steel.
Get either saw from rip saw there night and day better. They rev high especially the husky when there done doing there wizard port work and custom exhaust.
My cordless Makita chainsaw is the shiznit. It's never needed an air filter the pull cord has never broken and it starts every single time I put fresh batteries on it. It's nice and quiet it's maintenance-free and it's cut everything I have tried to cut for the last 3 years with it primarily Osage orange 🧡. As for your dinosaur burners I see no need in my life or any of them. Four sets of 5.0 Makita batteries will fill my pickup truck with a load of cut and processedwood. Two sets of batteries will fill my pickup truck with full length pieces of cut wood. No more dinosaur burners in my life can you hear me now😂
Exactly! If they run and oil the chain, the sharpest win. I have still my life but as I aged, I needed a small 12” to 14” saw. Bought my first Tanaka. Good price, ran well. I have always used Stilh and and Stilh chains. Stilh chains just seem to hold sharpness longer. Anyway, popped a Stilh chain on my Tanaka and Yowsa! Hold on! Big increase. Now, I am now bs ing. Have wood since 1979 for our wood stove. Just an old guy sharing a few thoughts.😊
Gettin a bigger saw so I can be home earlier gets NO traction. She wants me to get a smaller saw! - I like the saws that sing. I don't like screamin' saws. Your big saw collection sings good enough to get a record deal in Nashville!! They could use one improvement for these hot summer days, an air conditioned cab!! - All those wonderful noodles can save you a lot of money, especially around Christmas, if you save 'em up and don't use them all yourself!! Remember, generosity is a virtue! GNI
@@InTheWoodyard How did you do that? After all, you are a &^%MAN, while she's still a woman!! The only &%$*MAN in the world who is trustworthy, is a divorce lawyer her BF knows already!! i guess 'ignorance truly is bliss"! I used to be blissful too! What's really cool is, I'm always right, about anything, until she tells me I'm not!! Wish I could say more, but she's looking over my shoulder.
If you close your eyes as you 'watch' this, you can tell the difference by the sound. I prefer the 'throaty' Stihl to the 'crackly' Husky, but each to their own...😂👍💪🪓🇦🇺 (and as a sidenote, I'd be fascinated to know if any deaf chainsaw users can feel the difference in the vibration..?🤔👍)
Seriously…. If the $1500 budget for a stihl or husky 92cc is hard to stomach, get yourself a Holzforma G660. Clone to the stihl 660 in every way. I put the high output oiler on my G660 and that saw is a beast just like these two are. At 20% the cost.
Not going to do it. The Chinese copies are just that a copy of some one else's years of product development, testing, money and marketing that is just plain theft plain and simple. I personally think it should be illegal to sell them anywhere other than China and even they should be ashamed of it.
When you get into professional saws the answer is easy. Buy the brand that has the best dealer with the best customer service near you. That is where you’ll see the difference. Because both saws are awesome
YUP!
That's why you buy from guys who have both flavors. Swedish & German!
Agreed...hailing from ontario Canada 🇨🇦
I used the same principle for saws, and pickups.. what is the brand you see most in the bush, and where is the dealership? Tires for trucks , same thing .. plus when a dealer knows that you are coming to them for all trucks, saws , tires .. supplies .. you get better service and pricing.
But , if they start not stepping up with servicing ,or think that they can pad pricing , I had no mercy .. in 95 I sent 12 1 yr old 1 tons back to a dealer in Northern Mantoba because they were waffling on an obvious factory engine design issue.. 3 rads because fan clutches.. a 18yr relationship with a multi national company toast..
Esattamente
they are both great products. I've had my Stihl for over 30 years and it runs like new. I had to replace my fuel line and air filter a couple of times and that's it. As for Huskies, I never owned one but friends of mine love them
Yup, both great saws!
Welcome to Wisconsin. You had an excellent host.
Great comparison of the two saws.
The bckground of the barn with the grapple holding a log and cutting on the rack is a Norman Rockwell Ansel Adams moment.
Great video.
Morning Ann. Back wall of barn has been pulled in and straightened some. Wont ever be back to new but definately looks better.
Thanks Ann Marie!
@bertbrei2950 There are a few cells in the video of a perfect post card shot of a beautiful scene of woid cutting in the woid yard. Layout was perfect, lighting was just right and Chios were flying
Guys from Indiana are ok. I’m glad he finally got up to see you !! Looks like a fun day with some nice saws.
Most Hoosiers are okay, what is a Hoosier any way???? Sounds like a Dr. Seuss name???
@@InTheWoodyard I think it comes from the word “hoosa” which is a native indian name for corn. But deep down it really means you’re an IU basketball fan and you miss Bobby Knight as coach 🤣
Can’t go wrong with either saw or either guy! I have had the pleasure of meeting you both. True woodhounds for sure! You two put together some great cutting action. 👍🏻👍🏻GNI
Thanks Todd!
It's exactly as you say. I've worked with both Stihl and Husqvarna for many years, so it's hard not to notice it. In Stihl, contaminants get into the fuel and oil tanks much more easily than in Husqvarna. The former has a negative impact on work over time. engine and its service life. Many of my friends do not attach importance to this and the fuel tanks in their chainsaws resemble a miniature aquarium with a large number of fry. It is a pity that Stihl ignores this problem and does nothing about it, and the wood particles that get into the fuel tank will release cellulose over time under the influence of gasoline. and this is rather undesirable in the air-fuel mixture.
Always let your saw idle for a few seconds after a hard cut to allow the cylinder and rings to cool slowly. If you hear the muffler clicking from rapid cooling what do you think the cylinder and rings are doing.
Okay!
Or just flood it when you kill it. Old saws cooled better under no load wot than idle. More oil means slicker which is cooler. That's why a lot of old fallers fire up a cold saw & let it scream right off the bat for 5 or so seconds.
Tim Ard and David Breedon, a Husqvarna factory rep/territory manager, did a video on this topic. You don't need to let the saws "idle to cool", in fact that actually makes them hotter and hurts the saw.
Fuel mixture and the air intake, maintain the saw at design temperature ranges while in the cut at full throttle.
The air intake moves air across the cylinder cooling fins at a rate much higher than at idle AND the fuel oil mixture also helps cool the cylinder.
After stopping/turning off the saw, heat will soak, but it gets hotter if you let it idle for a long time AND the plug gets more fouled.
The primary concern with heat soak, is the fuel in the carb heating (any brand saw). That is one reason it's helpful to have a fuel purge bulb, to circulate in cooler fuel from tank during hot start (also good if you run your saw empty on fuel...see hot start procedure in operator manual).
You do you, but here's the video. Synopsis at 21:30.
ua-cam.com/video/EnOPJC3eXTc/v-deo.htmlsi=wR-uJ_0-krveMK1b
Great video guys. The best part of the Stihl vs Husqvarna is the banter back and forth. I think Chris summed it up perfectly, the saw with the sharpest chain is the one I'm grabbing first. Here that happens to be a Stihl, haha!
Look forward to watching more.
Glad you enjoyed it Bobby!
No fan boy of brands. But have the 592 only due to a had a hard on for the ms 500i but none around in Australia at moment. Spur of moment purchased the 592 out of nowhere. To be honest I'm just a normal guy with a job ( not a timber guy). Surprisingly I've cut over 15+ tonnes of Australian redgum 15-26 inches with a battery 18 inch ego chainsaw. Yep of course you need a years of wages for batteries it seems 😅. No I'm not saying there better here at all👍. I understand chain speed isn't everything but my big 592 spinning full noise 24 mtrs/ second. Battery saws these days are pulling 30 mtrs. Again as a timber person for a living no there not there, but wow keep those batteries up to them and they will surprise(yes if pushed batteries can heat and shut down.
That was the best job I ever had! Thanks Chris!
Hey thanks for stopping in!
Awesome day In The Woodyard guys! Really super enjoyed the video! Lots of big wood an carnage! Great chat about the saws an comparison! Looking forward to tomorrows video with 765! Cheers guys! GNI! Andrew from NB :)
Glad you enjoyed it!
Love the video as always. Do you have a video that shows a more in depth look at your bucking table? Seems like it works well.
No, but we can do one some day!
Those are some nice Ash saws! I love my 592 and my 572. My Stilh 440 mag is a beast as well. It's all about the sharpness of the chain. The Huskys rev higher but the stihl does have that lowend torque. Nice video Chris.
Thanks for watching Grant!
I have a feeling that my 038 clone saw is pretty close to my 572xp in 20in oak. Chain setup would determine the winnter.
@@thefirewooddoctor
The 038 Super and Magnum and even the 61cc 038 had nice heavy cranks , clutches and flywheels. Plus, they were built for smooth torque. They weren't much fun to pack around. But they did cut Really well. The 038 Mag easily out cut the 044. My partner and I would race ours against each other. The 038 Mag always won by a fair amount.
22:07 You have done a quick measurement guess at this point to shorten the log.
What have you been you looking for? There is no zip tie or similar on the saw. Just a guess from your experience?
Yup, just eye balling it, I was looking for what side to cut to get the best wood from.
Good morning Chris the two of you are having to much fun. Happy Father’s Day weekend. Keep on cutting
Thnaks Brian!
I've found that when cutting along the grain -- instead of saw dust or chips the saw throws of piles of thin, long strips of wood. That stuff is well worth scooping up and saving in a feed bag -- because it makes excellent kindling. It catches easy, leave hot embers and I never had to add a second application -- it beats pine needles.
Yup, it is called ripping or noodling and yes it is great for a fire starter.
Chris, I see some of the bigger saws are sold with a 28 inch bar and some with a 32 inch bar. Why would someone want the shorter bar Thanks
I prefer 24" most of the time, it allows a 48" cut and that will cut 99.85791% of all wood easily. Much easier in the brush, lighter, cuts faster, less teeth to sharpen and I hit the ground a lot less.
This fall I'm really thinking bout getting a 661 w/a 36" bar
It is a great saw!
Welcome to The Woodyard, nice playing with the saws, great comparison in different aspects.
As Tony says, “he has no Denomination on Brands of Chainsaws”.
I was about to put my earmuffs on it was damn loud today, just turned the volume down😊
Yes, they ae both screamers!
I own 3 different Husky's (all XP's") and I love these saws. I had a tree business and the Husky 41 I purchased back in 1997 is still running great with God only knows how many hours on it.
Very cool! They make good stuff!
My 592 makes that exact same clicking noise from the muffler when I turn it off after a long cut I find it kind of neat. I also have the full wrap set up on mine as well. What would be a cool video to see is you putting your 592 up against a 395 Husqvarna
I did that about 2 years a go! There is a video!
Good Day, Just wondering have you ever done a piece count for a face just the size of your split
No I have not, I am sure it is a lot!
Both great saws love to have anyone of them! Imagine cutting all that wood by hand before gas chainsaws went into production back in 1927!
Yup, I can not even imagine hand cutting a years worth of wood for heating the house!
Love that Husky !!!!!
It just seems to me that cutting back to back l have to pick the Husqvarna..
That animal rips !
They are both nice!
Is there a minimum CC size that you would recommend for a 24 inch bar ?
For bucking only ,not felling
Some are listed at 50 cc but I would say 60 cc but 70 cc is better for me.
Chris when you are cutting up the big rounds in half or quarters, could you cut half way and put in a wedge and split the rest open?
Sure but why when the saw easily cuts it and faster than stopping and manually placing the wedge and the whacking it.
Are you still wanting a stihl 500i I found seen one today at the hardware store. I was thinking about getting it for my Firewood operation. I have a stihl 462 that I love. But thought about getting it where I could alternate.
Maybe some day I will??
How much does tractor weight?
4,000 with loader arms and I have the tires loaded too about 900 more plus about 400 pounds on the back end.
Do you guys have any insight on how they each hold together after lots of use? How does the anti vibe compare?
Sorry no, I have not ran them enough to give you a god answer BUT they are great saws!
They all get sloppy after a year or so of production. So much of it comes from being chucked around & fallen on, bucking big stuff can loosen up mounts & pto bearings. Best way to get longevity is to find good top/side plate angles foe your wood instead of running low rakers. Long bars really show the difference between a fast cutting chain that digs chunks & a fast cutting chain that takes out uniform shavings. The digger cuts fast in small wood but starts the bogging as driver count increases.
I love the sound of a chainsaw idling it reminds me of a top fuel dragster
Yes! I agree!
I didn't see your cable tie markers on either saw. What did you use?
Measurement footage is on the cutting room floor,
Would be my guess.
We just eye balled it.
nope, just guessed.
So with the idling shot…it looks like the Stihl had more vibration. Can you comment on that?
Hey Len
Yup, lots more!
With both sitting on the ground it could have been nothing more than the difference in idle speed, what really matters is the difference in AV handles between the saw and the operator which IMHO the Husky has better AV.🤔
That was a nice presentation all around.
Very good content,
Very good camera and audio.
P.p.e . Usage ,
Very good guest.
The weather cooperated.
Good information.
Nice action.
Very well done indeed.
You made it look fun. . . . Somehow.
Thanks Jean!
I have a 500i & 395 . Both are equally as fun to use. Id have to give my 500i the edge just because it's more comfortable in the hands.
Both great saws!
When you talk about dry ash and how hard it is. It's rated harder than oak. When it comes to hard wood floors. Great job on comparing the two saws.
Yup, for cutting oak is easier, more moisture.
Great video, thanks. What was striking to me was when you shot the two saws running side by side on the ground. The Stihl vibrated significantly more than the Husqvarna. I would then think the Husqvarna would be easier or less taxing on the user. Also were those track marks on the ash result of the emerald ash borer?
Yes and yes!
Like design of the sawbuck. Preferance depends on which saw dealer is closest & which saw they prefer. Helped a comercial woodcutter, he was a stihl man. He said any time he was around Husky saws very long they had to go to shop for repair. Think a lot of it depends on operator. They are both good saws. Bought my Stihl 034 super in 1978 and it still has good compression, I only cut wood to run up my chimney and I never loan the saw out. That kioti is the best sawbuck.I like sugihara bars.
Great point! Thanks!
Chris, my wife loves the long sawdust from ripping logs down….. it’s great for tinder to get the fire going when it’s dry! Maybe you could sell it with how much you have there! May be good pocket money for Burt’s kids!
I think you’re talking about nodules, my wife will use them for chicken bedding 👍
Yup, maybe so.
Yup!
Chris you were on about a third good make of saw what about olemac saw do the sell saws in the u. S. A.
Never heard of it, where are you at???
Great video good comparison between the two saws, Stihl seemed to vibrate i little more.
thanks,I think so too!
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I just the Husqvarna mix oil but bar oil...it all works so cheap stuff. Thanks for asking and for watching!
Outstanding video Chris! Great comparison. Have a great day!
Thanks! You too!
Great video I subscribed to the 765 guys about an hour before I watched your video! It is so hard to call between Stihl and Husqvarna I have both as I cant decide.
Awesome! Thank you!
G’morning Chris ! Sweet Saw Action today !! Always a good show when one of us drives 5 hours just to run saws with you. She cuts Eh ?
GoodNightIrene
Morning Mr. Minnesota eh!
Both saws are great. Ripping dry ash is tough, rip some white pine if you want to see noodles, I do rips of bigger chunks when making campfire wood..
Yup, white pine makes noodles big time!
Good Morning Chris,rain here in Vermont today
Hello!
That is one big wrap-around 'west coast' handle on that Huskie. I love that handle on my 066. Use it all the time for dropping trees. An option to think about when buying a new saw.
Yup!
We got both at work I kinda prefer the 661 over the 592 but really the 395 just smokes both of em that's why I bought one for myself.
I have ran all 3 and to me the 395 is an old style saw that IF you like to fix and tinker a lot, that is the saw for you. The 661 and the 592 (I have ran at least 6 different ones of each) are very very similar.
Hi Chris!!😀😀
Dealer support is everything!!
That's why I have always been a Stihl guy.
Take care my friends!!😀😀💚💚
Logger Al
You got that right! But after running a bunch of different saws now, they both really do make good stuff!
A bucking sawesome time!!! Looks like fun. I plan on upgrading to a 90+ cc saw in the near future. I do love my ms462, but think I’ll enjoy the extra power of the ms661/ 592xp especially when cutting rounds larger that 24”. Happy Father’s Day weekend guys. Stay safe and have fun.
Thanks both great saws.
I guess its not all that much bigger then your 462 those are what 72cc I think but you can get the rental Makita saws from Home Depot pretty cheap. I paid $250 for mine. They are a 65cc class saw but you can put the top end from their 79cc or 78cc whatever it is on that saw so for $350-400 range you can have around an 80cc saw. Mine is a 6421 is the model think they call it something else now I have had it a few years. Was like new still when I got it other then the bar was painted orange assuming they do that so you know its a HD owned saw. Everything is the same though on the saw other then the top end so you can buy the OEM piston and cylinder for the bigger saw. They make another saw that is right in the middle of the 2 too that you can use that top end as well but since you already have a 462 probably don't need another saw the same size. There is aftermarket big bore stuff too so you get a little over 80cc but I would stick to the OEM stuff
🙌🙌Chris,seems like you guys were having some good time together ❤😊🪵🪵🪵🪵🪵🪵🪵🪵🪵🪵👍
Yup, cutting firewood is fun!
Hi, I have a Husqvarna 380 CD that I bought in 1977, in my gorilla weight lifter days. lol. I liked it so much I became a Husqvarna dealer. It runs and cuts like the day l bought it. They are the only saws for me. I bought the 592XP last year. I haven't even started it yet. At seventy four, with back problems, I am starting to doubt my purchase. Hmmm: W😮hat to do?
It is as great saw! RUN IT!
One of the other issues with the Stihl flippy caps is they are recessed in the tank which holds more debris and more difficult to wipe away before opening the cap contributing to the caps leaking, I prefer Husky flippy caps.
Yup1 Good point!
You wash all that off with the last Oz of pour. The Oz that overflows & washes everything away.
I hate flippy caps...
@elonmust7470 sounds like a great idea, pour extra gas on your saw and on the ground every time you fill up. That is just ridiculous.
I have a stihl 661 on our channel I run 50-50, non-ethanol gas, and race fuel in all of my saws to keep them from guming up the carburetor ! I love the saw, but man is it a work out after several hours of cutting. Haha
yup, it is a great saw!
Both I sure make a great saw. I husky guy myself. Them 572 are great. Cut truckload smoker wood today. Keep up the good work.
Thanks 👍
Good video Chris. Both of those are good saws I'm sure. Grandpa told me "dance with the girl you brought or the ride home will be real quiet". GNI
Yup, that is a good one!
Kami juga menggunakan mesi stihl kalo tebang pohon , belum nyoba mesin lain
Thanks for watching!
What ive found after being an owner of both husky and stihl ( up to 661 ) is the fact that you can do all sorts of things to the stihl, wcs style and egan+maxflow. Husqvarna has some beautiful saws man, and they are in my eyes more reliable. A big bonus is their 550xpg, which imo is unbeatable.
My favorite is the saw that is sharp and runs good.
@@InTheWoodyard Husqvarna saws are more reliable. I've had a 262 XP for 21 years, it's never been in the repair shop. I did put a new clutch spring in it.
It still has the original NGK plug. My next saw is the 592 XP. I really don't care for that primer bulb, it's something that will eventually dry out, and have to be replaced.
@@ricktaylor3748that just means the saw hasn't got much footage under its belt. After a single season of being tossed around the fall & buck in say SE Oregon, everything gets tired. Screws won't stay tight, mounts fatigue & won't stay tight, caps won't stay tight, plastics are wearing thin, then of course, the engine. After millions upon millions upon millions of mbf have been slain, everything is just tired
And the best way to wear yourself out for no good reason is to run a tired saw. Accuracy decreases and you start missing corners & cutting Russians.
Plus the more life left in a saw upon retirement means better parts stock for keeping the show going. I've got a graveyard of 92cc stihls.
@@elonmust7470 We'll see. I bought the 592XP about 3 weeks ago. My 262 XP is still running strong, after 21 years of hard use. Just keep your saw maintained, it'll last for decades.
@@ricktaylor3748 Not in production falling it won't. Trees are unpredictable, every time a bucking cut binds up, yanks you & saw for an instant before the kerf opens up, you took some life out of mounting points, pto bearings, & piston skirts. I had a stem with multiple binds let go so violently that it took half of the saw with it & left me with handlebars carb & a gas tank. Ripped an already tired 046 mag completely in two.. i got out some safety wire & put it back together long enough to finish the day before going to the saw shop for a new beast. Every time you chuck the saw in order to avoid the unexpected, things get weaker. The port work that makes life easier makes skirts & bores live a shorter life. Every time your Dawgs let the saw fall off of a log and go bouncing down off of a 70' bluff into the f&b , things get weaker.
Ever had to take your axe & chop your chain in two before your bound up saw gets smushed like a grape? That's why square chisel is so common out west, because it decreases the wear & tear associated with a grabby bind-happy chain, one that will kill a saw quick in real timber.
When a guy clears $600+ foe the average 6 hrs behind the saw every day, a new saw every season isn't hardly anything to worry about!
Great to see the big boy chainsaws, in The Wood Yard taking care of business
They are that!
Great comparison, I'd say they are about as equal as you can get. I was going to pull the trigger on a 661 because I get a lot of bigger tree service wood but I'm 53 going on 85 with my bad back and not knowing when too quit and usually can only cut wood after working all day so I decided on a MS 362 to work along side my 462 and Echo 620, the 362 felt like a feather compared to the 661 so I figure its worth the extra couple/few seconds over the much heavier 661.
The Stihl 462 is a great saw too!
They are two amazing saws. I have both and run them on a logosol f2+ chainsaw mill. The 661cm is 2 1/2 years old and has no mods and had no issues. The 592xp is about a year old and has no mods or issues. I will say the 592xp runs cooler
Thanks for the info Mike!!!
I think it's the 5 series husqvarna flywheels. They have longer fins which creates more surface area.
How do you run them with captive bar nuts?
@woofy548 I think both of them call them high capacity clutch covers. Most people call them west coast covers. West coast saws sells a machined cover and that's what I have. They are very good quality but a little pricey.
Running cooler might just be in the tune.
I'm surprised neither of you talked about the vibration difference. In my opinion, the 592xp is smoother and vibrates less than the 661. The 592xp feels like a more refined and modern saw to me and the 661 feels more old school. If I'm bucking for hours I want a smooth saw.
Good point! I will try to mention it if I do that again!
They like cutting drags down, they don't care about vibration haha. These modern saws are all smooth as hell provided the chain is setup proper, AKA less digging & more slicing. Square chisel is the answer.
Good morning all!
Hello!
Hì Chris, I still have my Husqvarna 380 CD that I bought nearly 50 years ago. It runs like the day I bought it. I bought a new 592 XP last spring but haven't started it yet due to three bulged discs in my back. Bummer! Shalom/gw
You are going to love the 592 it is a beast!
Good morning Chris how are you doing they are both great saws
Morning! I am doing better than I deserve! Yup, great saws!
I'll take the Stihl any day of the week. I can't stand the sound the Husqvarnas make. Listen to it rattle and whine at 9:42.
They are so similar when cutting I found very little difference, you must be a Stihl guy.
@@InTheWoodyardI won't deny that I am biased. The Husqvarna gets the job done, I just don't like em. Not unlike Ford vs Chevy. They are both good, but the Ford is better.
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Is that 661 ported? Definitely sounds angrier than normal!
No, just a bark box.
Bark box.
Hi, I've been running Huskies for 50 years. I love my 592XP w/24" bar. But I am spoiled lol Shalom/gw
Yup, great saw!
I don’t know???? I probably should replace my ms660 soon (or maybe just use it as a dedicated milling saw).
The 661 has a much lower tone and is quieter than the 592. The sound levels are from the spec sheets and from me personally using both saws.
The husky is significantly louder and all my work mates notice how much louder the 592 is.
Both great saws though.
Yup, both great saws!
I've just subbed, please consider a video on 2 cycle oils like low ash Opti2 and Amsoil or other?
Thanks so much, I use the Husqvarna mix all the time and it works well, never a problem.
Good job Chris I watch your videos everyday and I love Husqvarna saws and weedeaters
Thanks, they do work well!
It will void the warranty but get a respectable saw porter to work them over and it will be so much better and way more enjoyable to run. I hear that they will last longer too if done right and taken care of properly. I have several ported saws but dont use them enough to wear them out but yes both great saws especially ported
I like to avoid extra noise with my saws..
I must disagree... I'm from Germany and i had to buy the Husqvarna 592 XP-G, because i want it 🤣 I don't like small saws 😅😅
Yup, it is a great saw! I bought one too for the same reason!
Next time you get some big pieces, let me know. I'll bring a different brand large saw to try out.
What kind is that?
@@InTheWoodyardecho cs 1201. Just cut up a 44 inch oak. It's a beast
@@InTheWoodyard wish I post some pictures of my little operation.
Stihl or Husky probably does not matter for most users. Both are great brands.
Yup, I agree!
Both nice saws. I have a 036 and 046.
Yes they are!
Great day to let the chips fly
Looks like you both had fun
Yup, we did!
Nice saws! Great show guys!!👍👍GNI
Thanks 👍
I like my stihls I just grew up with them and there is hardly any husqvarna dealers around. But the gas caps are crap the older screw in caps were way better.
One of the main reasons I prefer my Stihls. I do own Husqvarna, RedMax which is just a red Husqvarna, Makita, Echo, John Deere which I think is made by Echo, and an old Homelite. Stihl dealers are everywhere. I have one within a few min of my house. I only know of 1 Husqvarna dealer that is close by and its still nearly a half hour away and the guy that owns the shop is an asshole. Its the same at both of the other houses we have. Stihl everywhere. I guess there is one of those tractor supply type stores here that sells both Stihl and Husqvarna and not just homeowner stuff they have all the pro stuff in there but its a big box store. It used to be a Sams club place is enormous. Pretty sure they only do sales there at that big box store no repairs or anything. I don't know if they can order you parts probably I guess.
They make great stuff!
Yup, the problem with box stores is no service.
91.1 cc 7.2 BHP vs 93 cc 7.6 BHP
2 second diffrent.
661 CM 10 years old, but not bad.
I don't know how fuel efficiency.
But i like Hasqvarna 592xp with mat color 28" bar.
they both cut.
The great tool debate. Which one is better, I say the one you have when you need it.
yup!
Seems to me that the Stihl would benefit from a little leaner tune.
Okay.
Another fun day in the Woodyard. Now time for me to go reload the truck for Monday evening after work..😁👍
Have fun!
Chris, you looked tired after running a tank through that 661. Were I know I have seen you run multiple tanks through your 592 in the past. I have run a 660 before, and I knew it was not a saw I could run all day way to heavy.
Wouldn’t know why the power heads weigh the same if the 661 has a full wrap handle,if not it’s 3 ounces lighter than 592.
It could be simple as the extra vibration the Stihl has, causing him to grip harder to hold on? The scene when both saws are idling it is obviously dancing around more or it could be differences in the bar designs themselves. Holding it different can cause fatigue also. It isn't always just about the weight...IMO
@steveyork8069 I just thought he looked tired. Just a observation from behind my screen. I know I have ran a 660 and it cut good but I got tired quick and I'm 25 years younger then Chris is lol.
We started at 6am and made 4 videos in a row that day so yes I was tired!
they feel the same.
Crazy how suddenly a guy's mood can change when firewood sells lile hotackes! To deliveries already this weekend, with a 3rd in the morning. Plus possibly a 4th delivery tomorrow after that! Gotta get in touch with my inner "Chris Carlson" and get the wood cut, split, snd stacked!
Good for you!
We did the same in New Zealand, 592 is quicker than the 661, sings better too. Both great saws, but for us 592XP takes first place
I really could not tell much of a difference at all. Both are great!
Tge husqvarnas are lighter too which as a climber i like more
ok.
For all the energy you have throughout the day...what the hell do you eat for breakfast?
Four fried chickens and a coke
or some dry toast!!!!!!!
Anything I want.
Sugi Hara and Tsumura bars are the very best bars you can buy. The Japanese steel is incredibly durable and will definitely outlast the stihl bars. I personally run Tsumura bars and I have never had a complaint. These bars are used every day in my tree care company and my firewood distribution yard. They get beat up and seem to love the abuse
Thanks good to know!!
Old Tsumaras are the best of the lot in my experiences. If you deal with long bars, a great indicator of quality is how much or rather how little they belly out on their sides. Even cannons aren't quite as good as they used to be. A 52" job that barely distorts is a fine piece of steel.
Yes definitely durable and best bars
Get either saw from rip saw there night and day better. They rev high especially the husky when there done doing there wizard port work and custom exhaust.
Nice!
Great video
Thanks!!!
Shit yer sharpin. Little but often give it the shine
ok
My cordless Makita chainsaw is the shiznit. It's never needed an air filter the pull cord has never broken and it starts every single time I put fresh batteries on it. It's nice and quiet it's maintenance-free and it's cut everything I have tried to cut for the last 3 years with it primarily Osage orange 🧡. As for your dinosaur burners I see no need in my life or any of them. Four sets of 5.0 Makita batteries will fill my pickup truck with a load of cut and processedwood. Two sets of batteries will fill my pickup truck with full length pieces of cut wood. No more dinosaur burners in my life can you hear me now😂
Sorry to hear that. I like to cut a lot of wood fast and battery saws are not it....yet. Someday maybe.
Matters little which power head, sharpest chain takes prize.
Yup, I agree!
Exactly! If they run and oil the chain, the sharpest win. I have still my life but as I aged, I needed a small 12” to 14” saw. Bought my first Tanaka. Good price, ran well. I have always used Stilh and and Stilh chains. Stilh chains just seem to hold sharpness longer. Anyway, popped a Stilh chain on my Tanaka and Yowsa! Hold on! Big increase. Now, I am now bs ing. Have wood since 1979 for our wood stove. Just an old guy sharing a few thoughts.😊
Gettin a bigger saw so I can be home earlier gets NO traction. She wants me to get a smaller saw! - I like the saws that sing. I don't like screamin' saws. Your big saw collection sings good enough to get a record deal in Nashville!! They could use one improvement for these hot summer days, an air conditioned cab!! - All those wonderful noodles can save you a lot of money, especially around Christmas, if you save 'em up and don't use them all yourself!! Remember, generosity is a virtue! GNI
I don't ask I just get what I want/need. My wife trusts me.
@@InTheWoodyard How did you do that? After all, you are a &^%MAN, while she's still a woman!! The only &%$*MAN in the world who is trustworthy, is a divorce lawyer her BF knows already!! i guess 'ignorance truly is bliss"! I used to be blissful too! What's really cool is, I'm always right, about anything, until she tells me I'm not!! Wish I could say more, but she's looking over my shoulder.
Great video guys. ❤
Thanks for watching James!
the only thing i think is the price difference between the two
Yup, that is one thing I should have mentioned more!
Both awesome! 👍👍👍
We agree!
From 6:56 to 7:00 dont push the saw to cut
Yup, some times when trying a new saw I like to see what it will do and if I can stop it so ya, I did that.
If you close your eyes as you 'watch' this, you can tell the difference by the sound. I prefer the 'throaty' Stihl to the 'crackly' Husky, but each to their own...😂👍💪🪓🇦🇺 (and as a sidenote, I'd be fascinated to know if any deaf chainsaw users can feel the difference in the vibration..?🤔👍)
Great point! Probably lots of deaf chain saw guys!
I think i seen a bark bok on the stihl. makes a great sound 😊
Stihl have the barkbox muffler, not stok
yup.
Seriously…. If the $1500 budget for a stihl or husky 92cc is hard to stomach, get yourself a Holzforma G660. Clone to the stihl 660 in every way. I put the high output oiler on my G660 and that saw is a beast just like these two are.
At 20% the cost.
Not going to do it. The Chinese copies are just that a copy of some one else's years of product development, testing, money and marketing that is just plain theft plain and simple. I personally think it should be illegal to sell them anywhere other than China and even they should be ashamed of it.