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The Elves don't decide who is or isn't King, but they do know who the royal blood flows through. They made mention of the weakness in Aragorn's blood earlier. It was his ancestor that wielded the sword in Rivendel (the broken one that he and Boromir were looking at) and fell to the corruption of the ring after Sauron's defeat. Elrond knows that Aragorn is the rightful heir to Gondor's throne and has reforged the kings blade for him. He is basically pleading for him to accept his place as king to save his daughter as well as the whole of middle earth.
also the other guy is a steward not a king
Thanks for saving me the time. Aragorn has always been Isildurs heir. Rightful king of Gondor.
The kingdom of Rohan is a different kingdom than Gondor. So King Theodon takes his leave from the meeting of Aragorn and Elrond.
@@lylakoehlmoos5391 you should not forget, though, that Rohan is a vassal kingdom to Gondor.
@@hypocritexSure, he's Isildurs heir, but barely a descendant of Anarion, who's lineage has correct claim.
One or Aragorns forefathers tried to claim the throne under the same lineage and was rejected.
The primary reason he was given this was due to his exploits and the prophecies amongst the town folk.
'The hands of the King are the hands of a healer'.
The elves weren't telling the one king that he's no longer King, because he was king of a different Kingdom. They were telling Aragon to claim his rightful place as king of HIS kingdom, Gondor. The other king is the king of Rohan. When he said I take my leave, that just means that he was leaving one tent to go to his tent.😂
LOL exactly
Its some times funny as smart as Boyd is he can miss a lot in movies. I probably chalk it up to reacting while watching is a lot harder to follow story.
@@abc123tiktok I think the more you like. movie the more you can miss cause you're so immersed.
Aragorn never had any romantic interest in Eowyn and she didn't really love Aragorn but more the idea of what he represented. Freedom, adventure and glory.
Denethor, father of Boromir & Faramir, was driven mad by one of the palantir orbs. He kept looking into it and Sauron fed him warped images that drove him crazy.
In the book neither Frodo or Sam ever trusted Gollum (no good Smeagol existed) and they never separated until the orcs carried Frodo off when Sam thought he was dead. They just had no choice but to follow him since they needed a guide to Mordor.
Aragorn was born to be King of Gondor. He's just been in hiding from his enemies since he was a baby while the Steward took care of the kingdom. The stewards always knew that the true king would return one day.
As I remember there hasn't been a king in Gondor for a few centuries after some family war killed most of the bloodline. He wasn't in hiding from enemies, there wouldn't be a point to that as he has been a ranger protecting the people in the North along with other Dúnedain, pretty much putting himself in danger and no successor of his own.
@@marilynman If I remember right Aragorn grew up in Rivendale because his mother placed him there for his safety. I can't remember 100% since it's been 2 years since I read it but the exploring and becoming a ranger was kind of like preparation before he went to take his throne. I guess time doesn't mean as much when you can live to be a couple hundred years old.
@@toodlescae Yes, well he was placed in Rivendel for basic protection as any other young person needs, but also to be taught and trained by the elves. There where several reasons for that, as the elves where wise and knew all history related to the kingdoms in Middle Earth and where able to prepare him to be the king. Another reason which I think is the most important is because his kin (Dúnedain) and specially his line where related to Elrond's line. They where (for a lack of a better term) distant family, and I say distant because of the Dúnedain mortality as it has been a few millennia since both houses separated. Remember that Elrond is half-elf which means that his line can decide to be immortal or take the mortal path, which is why Arwen mentions it in the film as well as Elrond saying that she is dying (because if she where to choose to stay with Aragorn and whether the war is won or lost, she will be mortal).
So going back to Aragorn's infancy, he was placed there so he's taken care by relatives who can actually make him a man worth of taking the throne of Gondor, nation that by extension is related to the elves.
Billy Boyd, aka Pippin, wrote and sang the song that he sings for the steward of Gondor
They did indeed build all of Edoras for the movie and packed it down when they were done, not a single thing was left to tell that they were there.
And then unpacked it and rebuilt for some last minute reshoots! Crazy!
@@brettcloud8550 in the parking lot and still made it look the same :P
Edoras
Bro Go easy😂.. "I take my leave" simply means im leaving the room. Theoden is King of Rohan, Aragon is Heir to the Throne of Gondor.😊
The elves can't just say who is in power. Aragorn is the descendant of Isildur who was the king of Gondor. Isildur was the guy who cut the ring from Sauron's hand in the opening of the first movie.
That was 3000 years ago, so basically every human is the descendant of Isildur by now
@@jwnomadNo, the direct line of Isildur is recorded
@@jwnomadDirect line. Meaning oldest son of the eldest son of the eldest son etc.
Eowyn was never in the running with Aragorn. He cared for her, was kind to her, but wasn't in love with her. I don't think Eowyn was in love, either. I assume she had multiple motivations for her interest in Aragorn, and was swept up in all he represented, and also cared for him, but not *in love*. She would not have found her way to Faramir like she did if she was truly in love with Aragorn.
I mean she is royal, so her chances are limited Is not like she could go and marry the butcher. Saw someone royal? guess Ill love him.
32:41 Aragorn is the rightful heir to the throne of Gondor. Thus the steward. His taking the sword of his forefathers is him choosing to step out of exile and in to his rightful place as King of Gondor. He does so at the behest and with the blessing of the elves and Elrond. Elrond is telling Aragorn to step up and be the leader of the next era, of the new world.
When you were saying the traitors just want to live I was laughing hysterically
Smeagol’s story makes the ring work rather well as a metaphor for addiction. And Andy Serkis did actually think of the role in terms of heroin addiction, and how it makes people do things they would otherwise never do. That and his cat coughing up fur balls: ”Gollum! Gollum!”. BTW: I still remember your first orch sighting in the first movie - you recoiled as if you’d smelt something real bad. Too funny. :D
The place where the Edoras set is on is a small mountain called Mt. Sunday. It is actually government protected land, and Peter Jackson has permission to build there, but only if they left the mountain exactly how it was. So, they rolled up turves of grass that were on top, carefully cultivated it in greenhouses, and they built structures that were merely the shells of the Golden Hall and all the other structures for exterior shots. Interior shots were filmed on studio stages. The area was actually so windy that when you see flags being ripped off poles, that really happened and it was not intentional. Now, nothing is left of those strucrures, and they left it exactly as they found it. But here it is immortalized on film.
Peter Jackson has stated that the flag ripping off was intentional, but that the wind carried it farther than intended.
Aragorn was always meant to be King. That’s why Denethor was simply a steward until the “return of the king”
Not sure if anyone's said this yet but Lord Denethor is acting the way he is because, in the book it's been revealed by this point, he has access to one of the orbs that Saurman had, and it's corrupting him. It's something completely cut out of the movie.
The white tree of Gondor is more than just symbolic. It was a seedling from the white tree of Numenor where Aragorn's ancestors were from and that was a seedling from the white tree of Valinor (The Undying Lands) where the demi-gods like Gandalf and all the elves were originally from. The white tree of Valinor was one of two trees that provided light for the world before the sun and moon were created. The lore for this stuff goes deep and The Silmarillion is a good starting point if you are at all interested in finding out more.
This movie is very precious to me. Hope you liked it. 💜
You mean it's preeeecioooous
I cam to do this, but you beat me to it ha!
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The ball is a palantir, kind of like a crystal ball. Basically a direct line to Sauron
No one said Theoden wasn't king anymore. I imagine Theoden left the tent to give Elrond and Aragorn privacy, hence "I take my leave."
Theoden is the king of Rohan. Aragorn is the rightful heir to be king of Gondor, and the sword that Elrond gives him, Anduril, is basically a reforged heirloom.
Fun fact: When Saruman gets stabbed, Peter Jackson wanted Christopher Lee to scream but Lee protested, being that he had seen a man get stabbed in the back and said that they would make just a quick gasp
I can't wait for part 2, where he sees why we remember the names of these fictional heroes. Thanks for the upload!
At 6:15, the large hall and some nearby buildings were actually constructed on that hill, in the middle of nowhere (the rest of the village is CGI). It took months to build. Since the land is set aside for preservation in a national park, the site had to be returned to its original condition after filming ended.
At 8:20, the dream that Éowyn is describing is one that the author J.R.R. Tolkien had in real life. I'm not sure whether it has any connection to this story, but it might to some other part of Tolkien's lore. I don't know why the screenwriters included it.
At 14:30, Denethor is blinded not just by rage and sorrow over the death of his son, but by Sauron as well. Denethor also possesses a palantir seeing-stone. When he looks into it, he sees what Sauron wants him to see. This is why Denethor thinks victory is hopeless.
At 16:22, the filmmakers built a 9-meter tall, detailed miniature of the city of Minas Tirith. It included more than 1000 tiny buildings. The surrounding scenery is CGI. Another giant miniature was built of Sauron's black tower of Barad-dûr.
At 24:55, we're all conflicted in our feelings toward Sméagol/Gollum. That was the intent of the filmmakers. I don't remember how it is in the book.
At 29:10, the budget was indeed huge--about $300 million spent over 7 years. The global ticket sales were 10 times as much, so it was money well spent.
At 30:08, a mountain itself can be evil in Tolkien's lore.
At 32:40, Elrond is not telling the humans who should be the king. Théoden is the current king of Rohan and Aragorn the heir to the throne of Gondor. Elrond is there to give Andúril (the sword of the king of Gondor) to Aragorn. He needs it in order to command the Army of the Dead. As you realized, Elrond is also there to tell Aragorn that Arwen will die soon if Sauron is victorious in the War of the Ring, since she has chosen a mortal life. After the destruction of the One Ring, Arwen does die, but not for more than 120 years. Her father never sees her again after leaving with the rest of the elves for the Undying Lands. In the book, Frodo does not send Sam away; the screenwriters wanted to increase the tension.
the two at the beginning of the movie are Smeagol and his friend Deagol, they were a "breed/type" of Hobbit known as the River people/folk so called because they lived on and around rivers.
The orb is called a Palantir and was originally used as a means of Communication between different cities and fortresses within the Numenorean Empire, the Ancestors of Aragorn and the Dunedain (Rangers of the North), until Sauron got his hands on the one in Minus Morgal (the fortress Frodo passes to get the steps to enter Mordor and the base of operations for the Ringwraiths) and corrupted them.
Third movie and boyd didn't realize Aragorn was the heir to the kingdom of gondor, FFS man.
Deagol was Smeagol's cousin and ostensibly, his friend. Talk about a fishing trip gone bad!
Elrond isn't anointing Aragorn King. Aragorn is a direct descendant of Isildor, who was Gondor's last King. The line of Stewards has ruled for generations, waiting for a King to return. Hence the title of the movie.
Edoras was built on the hillock in a New Zealand National Park just for the movies. It was completely removed and the land returned to pristine condition after the filming was done.
Just want to say that the steward, his family line has been stewards for hundreds, of years, maybe over a thousand
actually probably 600+, after Isildur fell to Orcs and the ring was found by Smeagol.
0:50 Andy Serkis is playing Smeagol. The other actor is playing Deagol, who is Smeagol's cousin and best friend.
3:00 Tolkien pretended that he translating the Lord of the Rings instead of writing it. There's a good possibility that Gollum adding "-es" to some words but not others was Tolkien's "attempt to translate" an unusual Hobbit grammar structure into English. (There are scholars who study Tolkien's languages who would have a better understanding of this.)
03:58 Its been a while since I read the books; they could have been shouting. Another possibility is that Gandalf or Saruman is using a spell to allow them to hear each other. I personally think it would have been Saruman. At this point he is trying to manipulate Gandalf and the others; it's hard to manipulate someone when you're shouting at them.
05:00 Smelling like an orc: again, Saruman is trying to manipulate them. How many manipulative politicians have you encountered who are incredibly hypocritical?
05:20 You need to add a zero to that; he's over 1000 years old. Gandalf and Saruman are both Maiar (roughly equivalent to a minor angel) who have been sent to Middle Earth in the form of humans with decreased powers. Gandalf had just been returned to Middle Earth in the last film.
08:30 That ball is a palantír. They can see vast distances and also communicate with other palantíri. At one point, there were 7 palantíri in Middle Earth. At this point, Aragorn, Denethor, and Sauron each have a palantír. I'm not sure what happened to the other 4.
12:25 Those humans have been targeted. What you're looking at is Minas Tirith, the fortress. The orcs have been decimating the nearby city of Osgiliath. (The ruins where Faramir released Frodo, Sam, and Gollum).
14:35 Denethor isn't just blind with grief. He's been spending a lot of time looking into his palantír. Denethor does have a mind strong enough to withstand Sauron's attempts to control him. However, Sauron is able to obscure things that Denethor would have otherwise seen. Basically, Sauron turned Denethor's palantír into a tv stuck on the Grim-Dark channel. At this point, Denethor doesn't have much (if any) hope.
One thing to keep in mind about Denethor is that Peter Jackson changed him up a bit for the film. In the books, he wasn't as incompetent as you see here.
19:20 Yes, the ring is trying to sabotage them in its attempt to get back to Sauron. It probably didn't help that the Witch King of Angmar (the Nazgûl who stabbed Frodo on Weathertop) was just inside that fortress (Minas Morgul).
20:40 I did a little research, and the only film I could find the set design cost for was Waterworld. That film was incredibly expensive because storms kept destroying sets.
Waterworld Production Cost: approx. $352 million (2023 dollars).
Waterworld Set Cost: approx $200 million (2023 dollars).
Return of the King Production Cost: $160 million (2023 dollars).
Return of the King Set Cost: ?
However, I suspect that the 1963 Cleopatra cost more than either. It had a final production cost of $44 million (about $440 million in 2023 dollars), and many of the sets were never even used.
20:56 I found an article on Cinema Blend where Elijah Wood said that blue screen was used.
24:15 I don't see Denethor as corrupted. He's definitely broken, though.
24:50 Its funny how people who read the book first and people who watched the movie first seem to have different feelings about Gollumn. I read the books first, and I sat there dumbfounded when a friend of mine said that Gollum was "so cute!".
25:15 Tolkien may have had a reason for making their feet big and hairy, but I'm not a Tolkien scholar.
25:52 As I understand it, Denethor's relationship with Faramir is tainted by Denethor's distrust of Gandalf. Faramir was friendly with Gandalf, and trusted him more than his own father. This is where the "wizard's pupil" line comes from. This probably wouldn't have been so bad if the contrast between Boromir and Faramir weren't so great.
29:17 Yeah, Denethor does act less like a steward and more like a king. But he doesn't go whole hog with it; In the throne room, he sits on a chair that is at the foot of the King's throne instead of sitting on the throne itself.
32:10 I'm not sure if Théoden knows that Aragorn is the heir to Gondor. He may have been saying that out of respect (or fear) of Elrond.
32:15 The most powerful elves were the one who were ancient and had traveled to Aman (roughly equivalent to heaven). Galadriel was one of them. They have thousands of years of knowledge and experience, including the skills they learned in Aman. At this point, comparing elves to men is a lot like comparing us to the Roman Empire during its fall.
I feel I should also mention here that Elrond and his daughter Arwen are half-elven. They have the choice to keep their mortality and travel to Aman or renounce their immortality and stay in Middle Earth. At the end of the books, Elrond keeps his immortality and goes to Aman, while Arwen gives up her immortality and stays with Aragorn.
32:40 The elves don't actually decide who is, or isn't a king. Elrond is trying to persuade Aragorn to step up and become king. Keep in mind that Aragorn fears that he has King Isildur's weakness. I think that Aragorn is still asking himself "Am I worthy to be king?"
34:00 There's almost nothing in the Lord of the Rings books about Arwen. They really enhanced her role for the film. And I think the "Arwen is tied to the fate of the ring" is something they added for the film.
Excellent and helpful comments.
I’ve also been surprised by people who think that Gollum is cute! I read the books 3 times over 20+ years before the movies came out and never thought of Gollum as anything but twisted, corrupted by the ring. (I saw one reactor compare him to Dobby from the HP movies. What?!)
@@genny5309 I do feel sympathy for Gollum, but there's a huge difference between having sympathy for him and thinking he's cute.
Keep in mind that the "just a stewards" had been ruling Gondor for many hundreds of years at this point. The idea of the return of the King was an abstraction; the Stewards had been de facto kings for ages. And the stunning landscape is what real New Zealand looks like.
They DID literally build Meduseld, the hall of King Theoden. Rather, New Zealand's 'Army Corps of Engineers' (I forget their actual title) built it. This is the only edifice that was completely real inside and out, just as it's portrayed in the movie. They used it to store equipment, etc. before and after filming inside. New Zealand is incredibly strict about its environment. Everything had to be left exactly as it was found once all filming ended. Not a scrap of paper shows that anything was ever there. Hobbiton, too, was removed, but had become such an iconic setting that it was rebuilt and is now a tourist attraction. Unfortunately, it's only frontages. There is no 'inside'. But you CAN have a drink at the Green Dragon Inn a short distance away.
They used some really cool minature sets in the movie. Minis Tirith was like 20 ft tall. You can look up pics of the models they used it's really interesting.
So, I don't know if anyone has mentioned this further down in the comments, but in medieval times, if the king wasn't around or there wasn't a king, a steward was put in place to guard and run the kingdom (or steward it) for the king until he came back or until a new one was named and crowned. When Aragorn's ancestor vanished, a steward was put on the thrown, but as time went on the rule of the kingdom went down through the line of the stewards. Denethor was the 26th steward in his line. That is why Denethor acted as the king for all intents and purposes and why he wasn't too happy to hear that the real heir had been found. After you've had complete power for your whole life you don't want to give it up (as we see in The Swamp these days). That is why Gandalph says "Authority is not given to you to deny the return of the king."
You actually heard two names at the beginning and you were correct. They were Smeagol and Deagol. They were brothers fighting over the ring when they first found it. Yes, they were Hobbits.
Supposedly it is IMPOSSIBLE to give up the One Ring if you touch it. Sam was only willing to give it up cause he only held it by the chain. Gollum falling into the lava with it was fate. Only way it could be dropped in there was "by accident". In a way getting Gollum to come to mount DOOM and trip into the lava with the Ring was the real quest all along.
Gollum in the end, saved Middle Earth.
Do you mean destroy the One Ring? Because Bilbo totally gave it up in Fellowship (after some convincing).
On the budget: They shot and produced all 3 movies at the same time, over a single 3 year period, so the budget is combined at around $281 million (just under $500 million for inflation in 2022). This includes the building of 350 live sets, over 20,000 extras, the building of 30km of paved roads to shooting locations, among other things. It's actually nuts what they got done with that budget (even though it's still massive). They made about $3 billion in box office alone, with Return of the King bringing in almost half.
Being "heard perfectly" from the balcony on Orthanc. Canon stated that the shape of the tower itself helped to propogate sounds up and down the exterior surface.
Yeah Elves aren’t determining anything about Mortal kingdoms. Theoden is King of Rohan. Elrond is urging him to take up his title as King of Gondor, replacing the Stewards of Gondor, which as either the only, or at least most direct, descendant of Elendil and Isildur is his unclaimed right.
They built a big chunk of the village on the hill. They had to set up a nursery for any native plants they removed, so they could be returned once the filming was finished.
Also the shot where you asked that question was in reverse. You can see if you look at the flags.
They built it for the movie, they built alot of the sets full scale and also had blacksmiths/weaponsmiths/armours(however its spelt)/leather workers etc for the weapons and armour, most of the stuff in this movie is real
So Rohan (the city you were asking about) is a conservation area they were allowed to use to film, there were SUPER strict rules about what they could or couldn’t do, but it was worth it for the shot, it’s a very real place
Many of the extravagant sets were done as "bigatures" (as apposed to "miniatures") which is to say, very large models were made that could have the necessary level of detail, and the actors were blue-screened in after. Also yes, some were actually made in full, including Edoras (the wooden Rohan village) which were all left behind abandoned to become favorite tourist locations. Last I knew, Edoras was still there to be explored, but that was a while ago and may no longer be true.
Read some more comments, and I may have been misinformed about these structures still remaining. I do distinctly remember being told that, though.
@@eudite1762 Yeah. I have to assume you're mixing it up with Hobbiton/Shire sets that were (re)build several times and made permanent with the filming of The Hobbit. Not sure if any other "major" sets were left open for visit.
Edoras was in strictly controlled part of National Park or something and the only reason they were allowed to film and build there was that they'd conserve -- everything -- around there, tear the sets down after they're done and make sure absolutely no harm comes to that area and it's nature. I believe they later on had to chip in and actually help build a trail and parking facilities there as so much people were hiking up to see that hill that nature was starting to suffer from the amount of "tourist" traffic. This might be where the "it's still there" could come from?
26:43 "I could be wrong ... but I'm not." I love that!
The original release of the extended edition DVDs have several discs that show almost everything about the making of these movies. They are as fascinating as the films.
At 8:15 Peter Jackson & Co. put into Eowyn's mouth an image of a great wave that in the book was spoken by Faramir later in the story. The great wave was the wave that destroyed the ancient kingdom of Numenor (you can read about it in The Silmarillion, in the section called Akallabeth). Tolkien himself apparently dreamed this dream repeatedly while growing up.
I can't wait for the next one! The last one is by far my favorite! I have watched these for years, and it never gets old. I'm so glad you appreciate what went in o making these movies and how long it took. Definitely check out the, behind the scenes, making of them sometime.
Let's nip the Mandela Effect in the bud. The "Elf Lady" did not "blatantly tell" Frodo and Sam about Lembas bread portioning in the film. Legolas told Merry and Pippin.
26:48 I think the problem here is that he knows that every time he’s “disloyal” to his father he’s proving his father right. Now, it’s “right” only in his fathers perspective but that’s the perspective that matters to Faramir. Should it matter to him? No. Is he the disdained second son of a powerful family who even after his brother’s death seems to be unable to do any thing right in his father’s eyes? Yes. So if we’re looking for a modern term it’s probably “trauma response” but I think his archetype is one that’s represented quite often however maybe best represented here.
That opening scene is the 2nd time Peter Jackson has started a movie by making me feel like an accomplice to murder. The first was Heavenly Creatures (starring Kate Winslet and Melanie Lynskey).
Although some older gladiator movies and westerns were brutal to the animals on set, this movie trilogy had nearly 180 horses die throughout the making. Most had gotten sick, but some were injured.
The total irony of your comments at ~32:00 - "They just want to live" heh.
Same lol.
Vulcans are space Elves, and Klingons are space Orcs...
We learned in Fellowship that Aragorn is Isildur's heir, and heir to the throne of Gondor. It's also stated by Denethor in his refusal to "bow to this Ranger from the North!" after saying "word has reached my ears of this.. Aragorn! son of Arathorn!".
Theoden is king of Rohan, an entirely separate country, also of Men (the terms 'Men/Man' speaking of the human race when calitalized).
Elves do not have say over the rulings of Rohan or Gondor, however the broken sword Narsil (owned by Elendil then picked up and stomped on by Sauron) was forged by the elves long ago to be gifted to the King of Gondor. Only they had the ability to recraft it.
The dwarf Telchar of Nogrod in the first age crafted Narsil. The elven smith's in Imladris reformed it into Anduril.
I rewatched Fringe this summer. It was far better than I remembered. Back to backing the episodes really helps to keep the dueling stories straight. John Noble was only known in Au before being cast as Denethor. He has worked quite a bit in Hollywood since. I also like recognizing an actor and then find them in their earlier work. Worst shock I ever got was Anthony Hopkins as Richard in Lion in Winter after knowing him as Hannibal Lecter.
If you want to know all the crazy detail for how these movies were shot, look for the collector's edition for each movie. There might be an anniversary set with all 3 together. There are multiple dvds of documentaries in each on the making of the induvial movie and overall production.
I see comments about the 'ball', but no real explanation of what it is. These are called palantiri (singular palantir). There were seven brought to Middle Earth by Aragorn's ancestors. They were basically Skype before Skype. They helped the high king (located in Arnor in the north) to monitor a very large kingdom. His two sons ruled the South kingdom of Gondor. In the palantir, things far away could be seen and communication achieved. Some were long since lost, but Sauron acquired one when the Nazgul took the place now called 'The Dead City' (where Sauron's armies issued from in the movie). Sauron used it to twist the mind of Saruman, who had one in the tower of Orthanc in Isengard and also to demoralize and eventually break the mind of Denethor, who had one in Minas Tirith.
6:49 Yeah, Tolkien was always fond of a well-placed belch and/or fart joke. 🤦♂️
The Rohan capital was indeed entirely built on the hill for the movie. After filming, they actually had to demolish the set and restore the environment to its original natural state as part of the agreement with the New Zeeland governement.
"how can a mountain be evil"
not even 30 seconds later,
"that mountain is evil" xD
Had Gollum not returned to Smeagol at the end of the second movie, he would have been fine.
re: "Why are these humans not being targeted like the other humans"
They are! This city is really just an overgrown fortress called Minas Tirith and is the capital of Gondor. It is on the river Anduin, a river which Sauron'ss forces have not really crossed until the Ringwraiths finally crossed when trying to search for the Ring in the Shire. They have effectively been at war in back and forth skirmishes with Mordor for hundreds of years.
It is what Boromir was referring to when he was giving his speech at the Council of Elrond, that they have forever been at the frontlines while everyone else's lands have been kept safe (hence the fervent longing to give the Ring to Gondor). It was only in recent years that the battles have leaked past these lines (like the attack on Rohan) due to Sauron's increasing aggression due to the Ring being discovered again. At the time of this war, a lot of the surrounding towns and fiefs have dwindled due to the ongoing fighting, and many now have taken refuge in Minas Tirith or far off in the borderlands as far away from the frontlines as possible.
From LOTR chapter "MINAS TIRITH":
"For ten leagues or more it ran from the mountains’ feet and so back again, enclosing in its fence the fields of the Pelennor: fair and fertile townlands on the long slopes and terraces falling to the deep levels of the Anduin...
"The townlands were rich, with wide tilth and many orchards, and homesteads there were with oast and garner, fold and byre, and many rills rippling through the green from the highlands down to Anduin. Yet the herdsmen and husbandmen that dwelt there were not many, and the most part of the people of Gondor lived in the seven circles of the City, or in the high vales of the mountain-borders..."
Clearly, you missed something...Aragon is anď has always been air to the thrown of gondor. The other guy was just a steward, aka place holder for him
At 16:00 you say, "This cannot be real." Peter Jackson was a proponent of miniatures in set design, and many sets that today would be done with CGI were done in LOTR with miniatures (or "big-a-tures," as the scenery builders called them). For T2T a series of sets were built at different scales in a quarry site to represent Helm's Deep. After that movie was filmed the sets were torn down and Minas Tirith was built in their place, again as a series of sets. The overall scenes of the city were a huge "big-a-ture." Unlike Hobbiton, I don't think any of Minas Tirith survives, though I would love to walk its streets.
"That's how I look at it. But I could be wrong. But I'm not." In the terms of the movie, you're not wrong.
Boyd straight up became the 'Saruman the stinky' meme at one point :D
Fun fact. the LOTR triology made 2.991 billion worldwide. Just a bit. The Hobbit movies only made under 3 billion also despite having mixed reviews.
20:38 don’t quote me on this because I’m not an expert BUT they filmed most of these three movies all in the same go and the cost was somewhere around 500 million. So even though it ends up being cut in to three movies you could say that, era it was made taken in to consideration, these are the most expensive “movie” ever made. Obviously that’s taking some liberties with definitions but still I think your sentiment is correct; they went for it and nailed it.
21:30 I think this is one of the most Epic sequences that I've seen in cinema.
33:30 "He can't expire based on the story." AKA: Plot Armor.
Literally touching worms? Haven't you ever gone fishing?
Here's a little copy/paste I do from time to time on different LOTR reactions. Let's talk about the genetic soup that is Aragorn, aka The Perfect Man (Get ready for a lot of names, lol). Aragon's ancestry is divided into two branches at the beginning.
In Valinor, the Undying Lands, dwell the "Gods" (The Valar), the Angelic Beings (The Maiar), and the Elves. On one branch you have King Finwë of the Noldor Elves (Elves who love smithcraft and jewels) who married his second wife Indis of the Vanyar Elves (The golden High Elves most in favor of the Valar) and they had children named Fingolfin the chadliest elf that ever lived, and the kind-hearted Finarfin, and Finarfin's daughter is Galadriel. One of Fingolfin's sons is Turgon, whose daughter was named Idril. Idril married a man named Tuor, whose father Huor sacrificed his life to save the remnant of Turgon's army in the woeful Battle of Unnumbered Tears, and Tuor also had the favor of Ulmo the God of Water. Tuor and Idril had a son named Eärendil, the Greatest Mariner of Song, who now sails the ship of the Morning Star, and the phial that Galadriel gives to Frodo is the Light of Eärendil, and the Elves most beloved star is the Morning Star of Eärendil (Venus).
On the second branch you have the Maiar Melian who served Estë the Goddess of Rest and Vána the Goddess of Flowers. She left Valinor early on to dwell in Middle-Earth not long after the Elves first awoke under starlight before the Sun and Moon. By chance Melian crossed paths with Elwë Thingol, king of the Teleri Elves (Elves of the sea, mariners), and they both fell in love at first sight. Half of the Teleri went to Valinor, the other half stayed in Middle-Earth to find their king Thingol who wandered off. This remnant of the Teleri found their king and their new angelic queen Melian, and they became the Sindar, the Grey Elves. Thingol and Melian had a daughter named Lúthien, who fell in love with a mortal man named Beren. After a long and harsh quest that involved Sauron and a descent into Hell and whatnot Thingol gave Beren his blessing and he and Lúthien married, at the expense of her immortality. They had a son named Dior, Thingol's heir, and he and the elf Nimloth had a daughter named Elwing. Eventually Elwing meets Eärendil, they fall in love and they had two sons, Elros and Elrond.
Now because Eärendil and Elwing had both Elf and Human blood inside them they could choose to be either elf or mortal, same with their sons Elros and Elrond. Both Elwing and Eärendil chose to be elves as did Elrond, but Elros chose to be a mortal man and became the first in a line of kings of divine men called the Númenoreans. After many generations you have Isildur at the beginning of the movie who took the Ring from Sauron, but Isildur had a surviving son.
And after many many many generations later you have Aragorn, who has the bloodline of three houses of the Elves (Noldor, Vanyar and Sindar/Teleri), of an angelic being, of three houses of valiant warrior men (Houses of Bëor, Marach and Haleth), the planet Venus, and a divine bloodline of men (Númenoreans/Dúnedain). Behold! The perfect man!
Denethor is also corrupted by another seeing stone, the same type Saruman has been using, therefore the despair.
9:00 The crystal ball is called a Palantir (I think) and is like a group partly line (in the 1970s) or a group video chat now. Anyone in the party/chat is privy to what's going on.
Start: "You're literally touching worms..." Haven't you ever baited a hook to use with a cane pole and bobber? Maybe that's just a Midwest and Southern thing. I remember 50 years ago going into the woods in southwest Indiana and cutting our own bamboo to use for fishing that year.
Aside: in late April early May we would also look for morels, an easily-identifiable mushroom that nothing (significantly) toxic looks anything like.
At 9:00 you say, "Maybe this is the reason why Saruman was the way that he was." The movie doesn't say so, but in the book, this is exactly right! Gandalf says, "Very useful that was to Saruman, yet it seems that he was not content. Further and further abroad he gazed, until he cast his gaze upon Barad-dur. Then he was caught!...Easy it is now to guess how quickly the roving eye of Saruman was trapped and held, and how ever since he has been persuaded from afar, and daunted when persuasion would not serve. The biter bit, the hawk under the eagle's foot, the spider in a steel web!"
Fringe is my most favorite tv show EVERRRRR! John Noble is an actor's actor.
Denethor also has one of those balls that saruman had so thats the reason he is the way he is (on top of boromirs death)
My phone buffered at 27:02 and the shocked face lingered on so perfectly😂 I thought it was intentional I was cracking up
Sam is indeed the real hero when you think about it.
Smeagol is as well, if not for him they would've been caught at the Black Gate, never finding the way to Cirith Ungol by way of the secret stair.
True. He did help them, even if to meet his own desires. @@UltimateGamerCC
That is Smeagal and this fishing buddy is Deagal. I think they are brothers or cousins. Not 💯% sure.
Cousins 😁
@@spencergrady4575 thank you.
Vulcans = Space Elves, Klingons = Space Orcs, Ferengi = Space Goblins Romulans = Dark Space Elves
Smeagol was a hobbit of the riverland, - Stoor branch. A race that preceded the Hobbits of the shire.
The Elves are the firstborn of Iluvatar, Men the second. The elves are fully of this world and do not leave it, men, despite their frailness, go somewhere of Iluvatar's bidding when they die.
Each LOTR movies cost 94 million to make. And the Hobbit trilogy cost 745 million. Yep, three times as much. WETA did amazing work with the CGi and stuff. So beautiful. Along side the real world footage as you often seen. The movies also won so many Oscars. Gollum was done by Andy Serkis, he was in a motion capture suit the whole movie. He won awards to. He went on to do motion capture for Ceaser in the Planet of the Ape movies. The motion capture they used really changed how the motion capture industry worked. Again with WETA helping also.
Tolken himself had said that Samwise is the chief hero of the story.
1:45 Sméagol has a tragic backstory. Very sad. But he's too far gone. Unlike Anakin Skywalker, there's not enough left of him to save.
A bunch of the cities were built in miniature. It’s real and lit, just not full size.
The structures may be CGI, but the beautiful background is New Zealand.
The men of the mountain will know he is king because because he has the Sword Reforged.
Places versus Hobbitses in Gollum speak... Smeagol spoke the common language and thus has always known the singular and plural forms of place, however Hobbits are a new race to him since meeting Bilbo and in the 60 years he spent trying to find Bilbo he never heard hobbits refered to as a singular. So to him Frodo isn't a hobbit he is a hobbits, making Sam and Frodo together a pair of Hobbitses.
Yes, the city was really built there. Obviously it’s not a working city but yeah they built it there so it would feel real (I didn’t mean Mina’s tirith) But the rest of the things are models of varying scale for need, the models are why it looks so real because the model is real
The budget was huge for its time, but it also paled in comparison to today's big productions, as it was also basically split for 3 four hour films.
The trick for most of the amazing visuals was actually hard practical work. Most of the important places were actually built in big miniatures, "bigatures" as they called them, that were completely realistic and detailed, making superior to even today's expensive CGI.
Also most of the locations are real places, after years of location scouting for this production, not CGI. The Orcs are all real actors with top tier prosthetics, again not CGI. Even Gollum, though he's CGI, was finely acted and motion captured and even closely resembles the actors features, you can really see Andy Serkis' features all over .
Fringe was one of my absolute favorite series
Denethor was also very effected by a palantir (the ball pippin looked into). He also had one, and tried to use it to soy in sauron, and was actually quite resistant to its effects. But sauron started manipulating him, showing him how hopeless his position was, and that go did would fall under his rule, so he began to despair. he still sucks! But his grief and despair are a bit more explainable than just being a giant turd. Its also how he knows about Aragorn.
They used far less CGi than you think in the LOTR movies. Why it looks so good is a combinations of miniature sets and compositing. Though the miniatures were smaller in scale than a real city or a fortress, they were still huge, so they could fit in tons of details.
Sadly I think there will never be movies like the LOTR trilogy again...
Love that you watched this!
they don't...Aragorn is the right King but he has chosen exile as a ranger, his ancestor is isildur, the one who cut Sauron's hand. he is afraid he is as weak as his ancestor, hence he doesntwant to claim the throne.
Denethor's family act like king-regents untill the King decides to return. that's why Boromir said Gondor has no king, it needs no King. Their title isn't king but "Steward of Gondor"
the Elves (Elrond) just happen to have the shattered sword that cut Sauron's hand, that sword functions in the story as a sign of the return of the righful ruller.
thing is they ARE rationing the Lembas, but Merry and Pippin ate 3 whole ones before getting full, so yes they are rationing it.
This movie alone won 11 Oscars.😮
In regards to your question about elves, it's many reasons. Elves are immortal, so most of them are at least a few centuries old and far more experienced than the humans. They also were here (here being Tolkien's middle earth) first, so this is all technically still their empire. Most importantly, THAT is not just any elf, it is Elrond Half-elven. He is thousands of years old, is a legendary hero among both elves and men, and was involved in creating the rings of power in the first place. His brother was Aragorn's ancestor and was the first King of Gondor.
No, Elros (Elrond's brother) chose to be human and was the first King of the island kingdom of Numenor.
@@dennisswainston411 The survivors of Numenor are the ones who founded Gondor, at least that's my recollection of the Silmarillion. It has been a long time since I read that book though.
Take a look at The Making of 'The Lord of the Rings'. It's INCREDIBLE!
21:48 The Byzantines actually used this similar system