That's precisely why I said something about your comment of a chain being 4 seconds faster than the other chain. I've seen many timed cuts, but getting one chain cutting that much faster than another is truly works of art. Thanks for doing the comparison and making such great content. Keep up the great work and making cutting logs so much fun.
Super interesting and well made video , l must admit, l am a dinger ❤to edge, many many years practice with round file, l do enjoy filing, ethereal edge is guaranteed, even after hitting a stone , metal etc., like they say “ No Hoof , No Horse !!! “ Bodey, l believe you are falling in love with MS 400C, l noticed you are running 058. She cuts better with 063. in my opinion, use Stihl 13/64 file, as against other brand 7/32, that size file sits nicer on Stihl Chain, looking forward to more good stuff !!!❤
Benefits of square over round for me and my style of cutting (firewood) is in felling. Making face cuts and bore cuts and less chatter. Makes for a smoother cut without the chatter or hanging up in the wood. At 60 yrs old I doing like fighting a saw in the wood cause I took the rakers too low. I've square ground about 25 chains over the last few months and am still learning. The development of muscle memory is key to any filing. Down side, double bevel files are expensive. Vallorbe files are about $28 each, but the best I've found. Pferd is good at $18 each. Takes me almost twice as long to file square over round. But square filing has made me a better round filer.
C83/C85 is not bad out of the box but is way better when you run a file over it and do the rakers on the hardwood setting. When I put a new chain on I have to sharpen it because fresh out of the box they are nowhere near their potential. Great videos by the way! 👍🏻
I think you did a really good job on this video. You made a lot of good points and I really enjoyed it. Keep up the good work bud! But as a follow-up, maybe take that square ground chain and knock a couple strokes off the rackers and try it again.
i like to run the stihl chain just because how little stretch they get and how long the teeth last if you dont hit anything with them. and out of the box i normally hit the gullet out and maybe touch the cutter a once or twice and it makes it cut quite a bit faster. i wouldnt do it if it didnt make much of a difference cuz even just a 24 inch bar to sharpen all the way takes quite awhile if you do it right lol. and ive heard a big thing why ppl like about the square files is how well they cut at an angle doing face cuts and cleaning up dutchmans it is compared to round. and it really does make it alot easier. and also where i used to work my boss im pretty sure has a saw that was built by gary its a kit saw i think they called it a k483 its a big bore stihl 460 im pretty sure that was ported with a barkbox and that saw blew the doors off stock 661's he had and weighed not nearly as much. my only complaint about it was the damn thing couldnt keep a starter recoil alive for more then a month or 2 cuz of how much compression it has lol and my boss was a cheap ass and wouldnt just pony up the extra bucks for an oem stihl one that would last way longer.
I have yet to find a chain that will cut a fraction of what my hand file will cut. I buy the 100’ role of x-cut chain at a time. HL supply had it on sale around the 4th for around $350. Normally it’s around $600. It save you money in the long run
I thought the c83 is low pro gauge 0.50?, are the other chains the same gauge?. Not quite a fair test if so, Also what gauge is the bar. is that bar 0.50 or 0.58?... most stihl bars are 0.63 here in the uk.🤔
It takes true skill to make a chain that will do a bore cut without jumping and still be aggressive. To me this is what separates a racing chain from a good chain.
Just bought my first Husquavarna and it’s a 372xp and it’s needing a bar and chain. Im use to running Stihl bar and 33rs Stihl chain so I’m clueless when it comes to Husquavarna. What chain is equivalent to the Stihl 33rs chain? People are suggesting to me to buy the C83 or Oregon EXL but idk nothing about those C83 chains. Are they a safety chain cause if so I’m passing on it. Im looking for something like I’m use to using. Hate to buy bar adapter just to run Stihl bar and chain but most likely will cause I still haven’t found one yet I like better. What does everyone recommend for these hard woods in Kentucky
I (kinda homeowner) hand square filed an 18" Oregon on my stock 550xp. Rakers were Just in the sweet spot. Cutting hard dry 16" beech, my pro friend was looking at me like i was cutting with a fokkin lightsaber. That's all i have to Say.
If ya was running a big saw all day for a living. It sounds to me like a square ground chain would save ya some vibration damage. Make ya not so sore etc. Just thinking & it hurts. 🙃
Basically , keep your chains sharp . Half a second this way or that way doesn't really matter to me. Just buckin firewood . I wonder if square ground would be faster milling with a 10° angle vs round ground. Again probably miniscule difference . Good video .
Long story short, negligible differences between sharpening styles. What is a distinct difference is the amount of time it takes to do the different sharpening procedures. I know some people swear by square file, others by baby C. I say whatever they want to do to run with it. I’ll stick with what has worked for me.
There was a short lived square file craze around here in hardwood land back about 15 years ago until we all figured out it is not faster. Also as a professional timber cutter I love Archer skip for the money. To me it mimics a Stihl chain in it's cutting profile. I hate Oregon ... Won't use it, it's junk. And the x83 is king 👑. Just my opinions....which are useless at best..
I’m completely brand new to this. What is Archer skip? I’m so new that I’m been finding Poulans in the dumpsters and reviving them and the chains that are on them have been getting the job done. Willing to learn.
And Archer chain seems to be way better than tri-link (countyline/home depot/etc three circles) with the exception of some woodland pro branded tri link in 325 narrow lerf. it wasnt bad.
What problems have you had with Oregon chain? I've used their .325 chain for almost a decade but will buy whatever fits my bar. I'm curious if I could spot the difference if you point it out to me.
@@danagordon8871 Archer is a discount Australian brand(probably made in China...lol). And skip tooth chains have less cutting teeth per drive link. I only recommend skip on more powerful pro type saws. Weaker saws can't pull them well. Hope this helped!
That shows ya that for cutting wood and working with a saw just get a chain use it till it’s full and sharpen it till there nothin left no one racing is watchin chainsaw chain reviews.
That's precisely why I said something about your comment of a chain being 4 seconds faster than the other chain. I've seen many timed cuts, but getting one chain cutting that much faster than another is truly works of art. Thanks for doing the comparison and making such great content. Keep up the great work and making cutting logs so much fun.
Good video Boedy. I really like the C83 chain.
Super interesting and well made video , l must admit, l am a dinger ❤to edge, many many years practice with round file, l do enjoy filing, ethereal edge is guaranteed, even after hitting a stone , metal etc., like they say “ No Hoof , No Horse !!! “ Bodey, l believe you are falling in love with MS 400C, l noticed you are running 058. She cuts better with 063. in my opinion, use Stihl 13/64 file, as against other brand 7/32, that size file sits nicer on Stihl Chain, looking forward to more good stuff !!!❤
I see a bunch of great cutting chains!!
Benefits of square over round for me and my style of cutting (firewood) is in felling. Making face cuts and bore cuts and less chatter. Makes for a smoother cut without the chatter or hanging up in the wood. At 60 yrs old I doing like fighting a saw in the wood cause I took the rakers too low. I've square ground about 25 chains over the last few months and am still learning. The development of muscle memory is key to any filing.
Down side, double bevel files are expensive. Vallorbe files are about $28 each, but the best I've found. Pferd is good at $18 each. Takes me almost twice as long to file square over round. But square filing has made me a better round filer.
I've said it before, your test/experiment control is excellent👍🆙BigGuy
I think the 3 circles on that cheap chain mean trilink which is a brand sold at tractor supply
Whatever it is, it's horrific chain.
I run the xcut semi on my 550xp; love those chains on that saw.
Great comparison with surprising results! Think for the time being, I'll stick to my round filing.
C83/C85 is not bad out of the box but is way better when you run a file over it and do the rakers on the hardwood setting.
When I put a new chain on I have to sharpen it because fresh out of the box they are nowhere near their potential.
Great videos by the way! 👍🏻
Great idea, would like to see how a c85(semi chisel)compare, just for fun ;)
Rakers could have been taken down a little more. But I've heard you don't want to take them down real low as compared to round filing. Good video.
Good job dude, which file did you use? The vallorbe?
Yes I did!
High priced Vallorbe, but a great file. Pferd is good also and a little cheaper.
That 3 circle chain is TRI LINK brand.
thats a cool comparison i cut alot of hickory i think ill order a loop of that c83 and compare it to one ive ground....
I think you did a really good job on this video. You made a lot of good points and I really enjoyed it. Keep up the good work bud! But as a follow-up, maybe take that square ground chain and knock a couple strokes off the rackers and try it again.
i like to run the stihl chain just because how little stretch they get and how long the teeth last if you dont hit anything with them. and out of the box i normally hit the gullet out and maybe touch the cutter a once or twice and it makes it cut quite a bit faster. i wouldnt do it if it didnt make much of a difference cuz even just a 24 inch bar to sharpen all the way takes quite awhile if you do it right lol. and ive heard a big thing why ppl like about the square files is how well they cut at an angle doing face cuts and cleaning up dutchmans it is compared to round. and it really does make it alot easier. and also where i used to work my boss im pretty sure has a saw that was built by gary its a kit saw i think they called it a k483 its a big bore stihl 460 im pretty sure that was ported with a barkbox and that saw blew the doors off stock 661's he had and weighed not nearly as much. my only complaint about it was the damn thing couldnt keep a starter recoil alive for more then a month or 2 cuz of how much compression it has lol and my boss was a cheap ass and wouldnt just pony up the extra bucks for an oem stihl one that would last way longer.
C83 is some good stuff
I have yet to find a chain that will cut a fraction of what my hand file will cut. I buy the 100’ role of x-cut chain at a time. HL supply had it on sale around the 4th for around $350. Normally it’s around $600. It save you money in the long run
It would be fun if you sent Boedy a chain to show how much faster a good hand file is.
I like these cutting videos
Excellent test, I’m surprised
thx
Every chain has its purpose. I prefer the Husky chain myself.
I thought the c83 is low pro gauge 0.50?, are the other chains the same gauge?. Not quite a fair test if so, Also what gauge is the bar. is that bar 0.50 or 0.58?... most stihl bars are 0.63 here in the uk.🤔
They were all .050 gauge.
@@stevemcdowell2019 fair play👍
Low pro gauge? You talking about a safety chain?
It takes true skill to make a chain that will do a bore cut without jumping and still be aggressive. To me this is what separates a racing chain from a good chain.
Just bought my first Husquavarna and it’s a 372xp and it’s needing a bar and chain. Im use to running Stihl bar and 33rs Stihl chain so I’m clueless when it comes to Husquavarna. What chain is equivalent to the Stihl 33rs chain? People are suggesting to me to buy the C83 or Oregon EXL but idk nothing about those C83 chains. Are they a safety chain cause if so I’m passing on it. Im looking for something like I’m use to using. Hate to buy bar adapter just to run Stihl bar and chain but most likely will cause I still haven’t found one yet I like better. What does everyone recommend for these hard woods in Kentucky
For the money looks like a good hand filed County Line is pretty good!
Mopar shirt 💪🏽
👍🆙BigGuy
Great test
I (kinda homeowner) hand square filed an 18" Oregon on my stock 550xp. Rakers were Just in the sweet spot. Cutting hard dry 16" beech, my pro friend was looking at me like i was cutting with a fokkin lightsaber. That's all i have to Say.
If ya was running a big saw all day for a living. It sounds to me like a square ground chain would save ya some vibration damage. Make ya not so sore etc. Just thinking & it hurts. 🙃
Four way sounds like a motocross hole shot! 😂
I have good luck with tractor supply country line chain.
Basically , keep your chains sharp . Half a second this way or that way doesn't really matter to me. Just buckin firewood . I wonder if square ground would be faster milling with a 10° angle vs round ground. Again probably miniscule difference . Good video .
The square file that my buddy JARED brought tosaw fest was super fast
Long story short, negligible differences between sharpening styles. What is a distinct difference is the amount of time it takes to do the different sharpening procedures. I know some people swear by square file, others by baby C. I say whatever they want to do to run with it. I’ll stick with what has worked for me.
we need close ups on the chains! :) we wanna see the goods!
When Gary ground that chain he probably expected you to set the rakers where you like them so he didn’t touch them
I never test ran it... Probably needs the rakers took down to self feed.
Keep sharing the test results. Love it!
There was a short lived square file craze around here in hardwood land back about 15 years ago until we all figured out it is not faster. Also as a professional timber cutter I love Archer skip for the money. To me it mimics a Stihl chain in it's cutting profile. I hate Oregon ... Won't use it, it's junk. And the x83 is king 👑. Just my opinions....which are useless at best..
I’m completely brand new to this. What is Archer skip? I’m so new that I’m been finding Poulans in the dumpsters and reviving them and the chains that are on them have been getting the job done. Willing to learn.
And Archer chain seems to be way better than tri-link (countyline/home depot/etc three circles)
with the exception of some woodland pro branded tri link in 325 narrow lerf. it wasnt bad.
What problems have you had with Oregon chain? I've used their .325 chain for almost a decade but will buy whatever fits my bar. I'm curious if I could spot the difference if you point it out to me.
@@7eis wont be apples to apples cause I run 3/8 chain. 3/8 and .325 are two different animals.
@@danagordon8871 Archer is a discount Australian brand(probably made in China...lol). And skip tooth chains have less cutting teeth per drive link. I only recommend skip on more powerful pro type saws. Weaker saws can't pull them well. Hope this helped!
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That shows ya that for cutting wood and working with a saw just get a chain use it till it’s full and sharpen it till there nothin left no one racing is watchin chainsaw chain reviews.
Good show
do a TEST with the HArbor Freight cheeeeeepie sharpener!!!!!!
Body you mean pro jack
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