Let's be clear the manufacturers are in the business of selling motorcycles...Stoner is faster than the computers.....and everyone knows it ...again they have races to sell bikes ...
Stoner is (sadly) right. But MOTOGP is fast forgetting about SPORT in favor of spectacle which = $$$ It's not gonna get better under new ownership/management if F1 serves as any example. ZZZzzzzzzzzzzzzzz.
Stoner invented that Marc applying it today. So, we got to respect Stoners opinion. He's the one who been racing not us. So what he saya is valid and legit.
Stoner was one of the greatest, the last one of the golden era, an era whn the riders matter more than the bike. I was a big fan of Ducati, but they did Martin dirty and i will be cheering for Aprilia next year, because fuck marquez!
Sadly, Marquez was always given a factory ride on the best bike. He never made a bad bike into a winner. Rossi and Stoner proved they were able to evolve a bike and their riding style in order to win. Marquez is great but he will always be behind Rossi and Stoner as a legendary rider.
Best riders get the best bikes always have. I'm not sure stoner evolved the ducati into a winning bike, no no, rather he rode around its problems. Neither did rossi but people seem to forget his ducati stint. It just got worse after stoner won in 2007. Ironically they both moved from ducati to better bikes, something that most overlook for some reason. Why wouldn't any rider do the same. Look what happened when lorenzo moved to the worst bike in 2019. He achieved 11th as his best position and 19th in the championship the year after winning races on a ducati.. He should of stayed on the best bike where he actually had a chance against his team mate. He finished top 3 every year on a yamaha for 8 years in a row incl 3 titles.
@@mickdunn4023 You are picking and choosing your era's to muddy the water and make your point. Everyone is referring to when Rossi moved from Honda in the 990 era which was hands down the best, to Yamaha which was about where it is now comparatively speaking (vs Ducati right now). Rossi went from winning the last race of the year on the Dominant Honda to winning and dominating on the Yamaha the very first race of the following year. I really had hoped MM93 would have gone to Yamaha instead of Ducati. I think the Yamaha fits his style much better than the current Ducati and no one can ride over the limit like MM93 so I think he could have done it. If he could have pulled that same feat off at Yamaha, then he belongs in the GOAT conversation. But he took the "easy way" and so far it still has not been that easy. He is still fighting the Ducati and I don't think it gets better with a GP25.
@@smoke05sNot sure Marc Marquez has to prove anything. One of the greatest there has been. People don't need to discredit Marc to prove Rossi is the best. I can only imagine they do it because Marc beat him week in week out and took all 6 titles while racing against him, but who knows. Anyway, enjoy the show, guys
To continue to be the number 1 manufacturer you have to choose the top rider. Hands down Mark is the best choice. Ducati workers get ready for lots of overtime pay for the near future.
“Stoner the moaner” ringing ever more true. Last time I looked there’s Morbidelli on a GP25, Alex Marquez, Digi and Bezecchi on GP24s like MM. There’s only MM on a Ducati running with Martin, Bagnaia and Bastiani.
Marc Márquez is the only reason the audience has increase massively this year No other rider can overtake 46 riders in two weekends, an absolute genius. Hate or love him he s the absolute show and the only reason this is not become boring as fórmula 1
@@seanyuke3249 Absolute brainless if you think MotoGP is as boring as F1. And Marquez going to Ducati will increase their sales dramatically, it sounds like you're apart of the famous Rossi rim cleaning club.
@@Necrophat No. I go back way further than Rossi. I don't mind being called brainless by a johnny come lately dipshit. It's king of reaffirming. Thanks.
This is the same thing happening with every sport. That is why I have declining respect and interest towards the sport and it's players. The pure joy of the sport has been sqashed under excrssive capitalism.
Maybe thats also why you didnt realize that the Ducati move has nothing to do with politics? Maybe pay attention and dont listen to Stoners nonsense and think he is allmighty. Everyone can win on a GP24, but look where the other GP23 riders are compared to Marquez. He has beaten all GP24 several times on a 1 year old bike from which Gigi himself said that the GP24 made a bigger step compared to GP23. Its about talent, but Stoner doesnt like to hear this, because he is a grumpy drama queen.
@Cartel893 I don't deny that MM is a great rider. He is currently my favorite. But, there is no denying fact that excessive use of tech helps the riders escape tricky situations easily like High side while exiting from a corner. The sport has become more tech dependent and less of riders talent. And the future is even more so.
@@85amitray this is all based on a motorbike that is 200 ccs bigger engine compacity and almost 60 kg in weight and these aids are around to protect the rider these are all things that Casey stoner fails to acknowledge that the bikes of this era are almost 100 km and hour faster then the bikes of his era
@@Cartel893 What you are saying isn't totally fair since we have 3 injured riders who will easily be behind him for different reasons than skills alone. DiGiannantonio has a dislocated shoulder, Bastianini missed part of last year due to an accident he didn't cause and only now is showing he's returning to form, Mobidelli missed the training and the tests pre-season ... I agree MM is possibly the most talented (and sometimes wreckless) but it's also true that his bike has every possible update that was compatible with both gp24 and 23. Let's wait the next races to see what happens.
it can go the opposite way, less bikes sold due to MM presence and fact that he is widely hated throughout the world and if you add that Ducati major market is Italy... well I think is a boomerang decision
The hate for Marquez comes from simple minded people who watch racing for the riders and not the racing. It stems from Rossi, every rider who beat Rossi is hated...Stoner, Gibernau etc. It's petty. Ducati will sell more bikes either way because their quality and range is growing every year. There's zero chance Ducati will sell less bikes that's ridiculous.
Upon what evidence do you base the statement "MM...is widely hated throughout the world"? True fans of the sport don't "hate" Marc Marquez, or any other rider; they appreciate the skill, competition and excitement generated and put on display at every round whilst cheering on their own heroes. Hating one of the most successful and influential talents of the last 15 years is irrational.
Stoner should stop to riddle. He left Ducati cause Rossi was available und he was pushed out of Honda cause Marc should get the bike. In 2012 Rookies were not allowed to enter a factory team. Therefore Bradl ended up at LCR. HRC and Ezpeleta used the whole season 2012 to get rid of this rule...Stoner was the last obstacle for Marquez. I hope Peco, Martin and Bastianini never forget the dirty games which brought Marquez to Ducati.
He is right. This is exactly why the Honda is in such a scat position. Honda built a bike around MM and his style of riding. Now, no one can ride it now that MM is gone.
Stoner has always made truthful and straight-to-the-point comments. And he has also pointed out many times in more or less ways that politics and electronics have destroyed the rawness of real racing. Personally? Marquez has never been tested on a bike without significant electronic aids. With his HUGE 238+ crash record (highest by far of any rider in MotoGP) he's proving he requires electronics to be at the top. I think Ducati have made a mistake with him. He cannot develop a bike to make it better for one. And two, he is a sociopathic character without any moral restraints and has bought shame to the sport with his antics in the past. Having a personality like him will mean lowkey sabotage, dirty play and unfortunately, the potential for injury for Bagnaia.
These are ridiculous claims. Every single rider has crashed into other riders. What about Luca Marini that essentially ruined Enea's entire 2023 season in the first sprint of the year? The Rossi fans always claimed Stoner was only fast because of his reliance on electronics. Then over the years it came out that Stoner used less electronics than anyone. Rossi fans also claimed Rossi could "develop a bike" and would turn the Ducati into a winning bike, and yet the bike got worse while he was riding the Ducati. I feel the Rossi fans that spread this "Marc can't develop a bike" nonsense are likely wrong again. Marc has lots of crashes because he rode the Honda for so long and their electronics are nearly as good as Ducati electronics. So he has likely had less electronic aids over the years than all of the current riders. Look how much less he is crashing in 2024 now that he is on a good bike. Yet Mir is crashing as much as ever. "lowkey sabotage", lol. Pecco took Marc out this year, not the other way around. You sound like you are someone that lays awake at night worrying that Marc might have a chance to win more championships than Rossi.
I smell salty VR fan.🤡🤡 Full of nonsense. Its ironic that Pecco made Marquez crash once and almost twice if Marquez didnt hold back. So who is dangerous for who`? You bitter clowns need to grow up. Marquez has proven to win on a worse bike against ducati many times. And what the hell are you talking about electronics? Electronics are part of MotoGP since decades. Your claim is the dumbest thing ive ever heard in MotoGP. Marquez won the Championship as a ROOKIE gainst Rossi and Lorenzo on their Peak on Peak Yamaha. If Marquez needs electronics, then Lorenzo and Rossi even more😂😂
There was no politics involved. MM just impressed more with the 23 Duc than Martin. Gigi is a guy who doesnt care about politics or nationality, he is a numbers guy and just look where all the 23 Duc riders re compared to Marc. I always liked Stoner, but sometimes he is just full of shit.
Will Ducati sell more bikes because of Marquez? that's a long stretch. Is the Moto GP attendance increasing because Marquez is competitive again? I think it's more because of the after-Covid phenomenon, not because of Marquez. Undoubtedly, he is who he is, but not that many people like him (like most, I much prefer VR).
Stoner is done and should not project his weaknesses onto current riders. MM93 rode the GP23 around Mugello18 seconds faster than Bagnaia's (or Martin) winning time in 2023!! 18 seconds faster than the 2023 World Champion who knows the Ducati bikes like the back of his hand. Marc Marquez sold his talent to Ducati by clear demonstrations of his riding skill. Ducati will not want him to get away.
Despite the hate marquez has on him ,he will sell more than Martin and thats a fact..also not the only reason,he's a legend like doohan,rossi,stoner and it would have been very stupid letting him go to another factory
This is not only a sport hobby. It's business... w/out revenues, there is not investiment in motogp. W/out Motogp, there is not P&D, then not new tecnology, no New bikes for Market. Beyond the sport, there is company going concern.
When are you people going to tell it as it is Ducati when Rossi went there was not a competitive bike but you know it all's like to put a mark against Rossi because he wasn't successful on it WTF.
@@Letsgetiton41 Exactly. Rossi rode Ducati before the new engineer changed it completely. It was not an agile bike, it couldn't turn. But you are right, some ignorant people just enjoy spitting on the GOAT.
Real legend 60 year old Jeremy McWilliams still riding at a high level in some of the most dangerous races. Hope some of these riders follow in his footsteps one day .
mm is the greatest troll in motogp history: trashed honda haven't won a race for 4 years used gresini as step and left kicked jm, bestia off ducati created the most silliest season on motogp history
Make one thing clear, Ducati will put the best rider on the bike no matter if they are Italian or from Mars. Marquez has had his troubles but he's burning brighter than ever right now.
Casey was a great, natural rider and I agree with him about the electronics. Even his nemesis, Rossi said it years earlier. I do think he's a bit toxic these days with him comments though. Ducati want Marc because he's the most successful rider since Rossi and it's a massive win over Honda etc. Marc is towards the end of his career especially considering his injuries on the Honda. Will Marc win the championship on the Duke? Who knows but he has adapted quickly and lets face it he has a personality unlike anyone in Moto GP these days now Rossi has gone.
Profit only? So Marquez didnt performed well with the Ducati right?🤡🤡 Stop being a salty loser. Ducati is selling enough bikes, whoever thinks Ducati got MM for selling more bikes is a massive knobhead. THe money they pay him will be hardly covered with bike sales.
2 time world champ? Deeper thinker than most and a bloody good communicator about what goes on bike racing and behind the scenes. Tend to agree racing was more interesting without anti wheelie, traction control and aero. Mick Doohan was a man amongst men because he could control the beast that was the NSR500 wet and dry with analog controls
Who the fuck out there is going to buy a Ducati just because Marc joined the team? If you wanted a Ducati you'd buy one regardless of Marc, if you couldn't afford or didn't want one you wouldn't get one anyway even if Marc joined.
Just what I was wondering, but I dunno what Ducati sales are like in Spain where #93 is (or was?) king. Is it Pedro Acosta now? GASGAS sales going up, Honda sales going down...Repsol going away?
nonesense , people like me , who buy new bikes are not 20 year old pc cultured mm fans . mm is so huge because of asian audience and the masses . same why ronaldo is more popular then messi among kids .
Marquez is a talent to be sure. Is he better than Pecco or Martin? No. Is he more “marketable”? Certainly moreso than Martin. Sometimes skill and talent aren’t the only factors, even in MotoGP. I recognize Marc’s skill, but hope he doesn’t win his 9th championship and is beaten by Pecco, Acosta, and/or Martin.
Stoner is a great Champion who don't like electronic stuff. Skill is one part of it. Now is 80% Electromic. On those top great bike. Whether is European or Japanese.😢
Marc goes to Ducati….Weak wanna prove your the best jump back on the Honda and WIn thats right you couldn’t. Rossi went to the M1 and Stoner won on The OG Ducati those are hero’s Marc just pathetic at this point.
hahaha winning on Sunday selling on Monday 🤣 and standing at the dealer on Tuesday with a broken Ducati. Then you're not really smart. If you fall for that hahaha but I agree with stonner 👍🏻✊🏻👍🏻
I don't hate Ducati. Beautiful. But I have had 4 new ones.. Only problems.. I have been driving motorcycles for 44 years. I have had many brands. So that is my experience.👍🏻
lol this guys wins 2 championship and try making a big fuss about it always giving his unwanted statement . try winning 8 times and we will see about it 😂😂😂 . what a shame to be at same level as rossi and marqueez 😂😂😂
@@G-Man01 bro why cant u guys accept the fact that marc marquezz is way better than stoner . atleast he is trying his best with different teams and still is competetive than ever , and yaaa about moto gp and moto gp bike technology has evolved and should learned to adapt with it otherwise whats the use of all those factory team there , putting thier inputs and their technology to improve the whole world of motorcycle , otherwise u shouldnt watch yourself moto gp and wished that everyone have a 100cc bike with same spec and brand and have a race ..... grow up sucker 🤣🤣
and to add at last ur casey is nothing but jealous what marqueez is acheiving so far , if not then go tell ur guy to come and race than not to sit like sissy and always trying to get attention , and i am prity sure he doubtlfully said he had some kind of problem that he wouldnt be able to ride again as before but tell ur guy to look at marc , he crashed and had that crazy stiches on his arm but he fight , he fight with himself and all the critics and is up there again winning and enjoying . so if u dont like what u seeing than sorry dude , marc is here to evolve so live with it 🤣🤣
Danny did all of the hard work on the Honda along comes Stoner From a Ducati that was so bad he couldn’t ride it any more ( Good luck with that Rossi ) and gets on a winning Honda and guess what Wins easily really same thing with Marc. Now the Honda is totally useless Marc wants the best bike on the Grid 🤔 Why Well he can just jump on it and win 🤣🤣 all the hard work has been done true Champions 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 i could go on 99 Lorenzo I WANT THE BEST OR IM TAKING MY BALL AND GOING HOME 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Apparently Stoner is a bit jealous of Marquez. For whatever reason. In my view, it's all a matter of him seeing in Marquez a talent that even he doesn't have.
@@61js A lot of peoples in the close entourage and commentating for different TV or internet channels like retired ex riders do think like Stoner, but because of their employed contract, they cannot have the same free speech. Stoner is in this position to have.
A lot of peoples in the close entourage and commentating for different TV or internet channels like retired ex riders do think like Stoner, but because of their employed contract, they cannot have the same free speech. Stoner is in this position to have.
Marquez is the best rider of all time along with Rossi, no debate on that. Don't get the hate on Marc because he brings the show and the spotlight to motogp like anyone else at the moment with a bike of last year something the rest are not able to do even in their best dreams 8 times world champion vs a talented rider already 3 years at Ducati winning nothing, people have no idea what it's talking about He s 31 years old at the moment don't lie and physically he s way more prepared to win many titles at a longer age than Rossi, embarrassing hater
Marquez can only ride good on a fast bike he cant help make a bike faster like rossi and stoner can. When he came in he got on the fatest bike thst he didnt make fast
Marc likes grisini but he wasn't secretly trying to get the factory seat I bet he was like shocked the writing is on the wall his 2nd year on the duc is when he will shine
I can't take anything serious coming from Stoners after his comment to one of the greatest riders in Motogp "Obviously your ambition outweighs your talent." Same old Aussis, always winging.
Stoner is right Ducati has made wrong decision and markez is one it's not about sales for us it's about racing and respecting ur drivers ask stoner peco will leave Ducati soon and I hope to Aprilia or vr 46 😮
As a Rossi fan,I'm not bitter at all BUT pretty bloody ironic that if VR46 hadn't performed so badly on the Ducati in 2011/2012 they wouldn't have employed Gigi Dall'Igna to turn their fortunes around,the very same guy who has allowed Marquez to sneak in through the back door to get a full factory ride,rather than accepting the Gp25 available via Pramac.JM89 will have an axe to grind,so hopefully he takes the No.1 plate to Aprilia,I can't imagine Enea is too chuffed either,well played by Marquez though,getting not one but 2 adversaries onto potentially inferior machines,whilst getting the most capable bike currently on the grid. Credit to Stoner that man was a one off,nobody was really capable of riding that Duke like him,but notice the only Honda MotoGp champion other than Marquez since 2011 is none other than Casey Stoner,and he knows more about the politics in MotoGp than most keyboard warriors. I just hope Ducati don't try to build a bike just around Marquez to the detriment of others in the team,Ducati may of done that with Stoner back in the day and it didn't work out well,following Marquez lead hasn't done Honda any good either it seems........
@@michaelleaver1766 As a Marquez fan I agree that Marc shoud not be testing bikes as he rides like nobody else and Hondas demise is largely due to him. Listen to Crutchlow how he always complained that Honda was developing a bike that was fast but nobody could ride it.
@eragon96grasel Honda must shoulder most of the blame,the Japanese Manafacturers are normally pragmatic,they meaning Honda 1st got the rookies rule changed to their benefit to accommodate him,and when he won consistently just followed him rather than the other riders in the team.Putting all the eggs in 1 basket isn't a good move in a supposed team game.....Pedrosa never stood a chance whilst Marquez was there,arguably one of the greatest riders never to win a championship,Pedrosa was a TEAM player,MM93 not so.
What are your thoughts, is Stoner right? Should MotoGP be less political and more focused on racing only?
Let us know in the comments down below ⬇
Let's be clear the manufacturers are in the business of selling motorcycles...Stoner is faster than the computers.....and everyone knows it ...again they have races to sell bikes ...
Stoner is (sadly) right. But MOTOGP is fast forgetting about SPORT in favor of spectacle which = $$$ It's not gonna get better under new ownership/management if F1 serves as any example. ZZZzzzzzzzzzzzzzz.
Stoner always gives some accurate comments.
I agree with Casey Stoner. Politics is the biggest negative of MotoGp.
Sure. The politics and money that gave Mr Stoner a career and high living standards.
Stoner invented that Marc applying it today. So, we got to respect Stoners opinion. He's the one who been racing not us. So what he saya is valid and legit.
@@RemmyJunior-bo3mzhe just run out before facing Marquez in the track.
Stoner was one of the greatest, the last one of the golden era, an era whn the riders matter more than the bike.
I was a big fan of Ducati, but they did Martin dirty and i will be cheering for Aprilia next year, because fuck marquez!
Sadly, Marquez was always given a factory ride on the best bike. He never made a bad bike into a winner. Rossi and Stoner proved they were able to evolve a bike and their riding style in order to win. Marquez is great but he will always be behind Rossi and Stoner as a legendary rider.
I totally agree he gets on a fast bike or he sucks. He cant ride a bad bike or make it better
Ducati has some real fast bikes right now
Best riders get the best bikes always have. I'm not sure stoner evolved the ducati into a winning bike, no no, rather he rode around its problems. Neither did rossi but people seem to forget his ducati stint. It just got worse after stoner won in 2007. Ironically they both moved from ducati to better bikes, something that most overlook for some reason. Why wouldn't any rider do the same. Look what happened when lorenzo moved to the worst bike in 2019. He achieved 11th as his best position and 19th in the championship the year after winning races on a ducati.. He should of stayed on the best bike where he actually had a chance against his team mate. He finished top 3 every year on a yamaha for 8 years in a row incl 3 titles.
@@mickdunn4023 You are picking and choosing your era's to muddy the water and make your point. Everyone is referring to when Rossi moved from Honda in the 990 era which was hands down the best, to Yamaha which was about where it is now comparatively speaking (vs Ducati right now). Rossi went from winning the last race of the year on the Dominant Honda to winning and dominating on the Yamaha the very first race of the following year. I really had hoped MM93 would have gone to Yamaha instead of Ducati. I think the Yamaha fits his style much better than the current Ducati and no one can ride over the limit like MM93 so I think he could have done it. If he could have pulled that same feat off at Yamaha, then he belongs in the GOAT conversation. But he took the "easy way" and so far it still has not been that easy. He is still fighting the Ducati and I don't think it gets better with a GP25.
@@smoke05sNot sure Marc Marquez has to prove anything. One of the greatest there has been. People don't need to discredit Marc to prove Rossi is the best. I can only imagine they do it because Marc beat him week in week out and took all 6 titles while racing against him, but who knows. Anyway, enjoy the show, guys
Get rid of all the electrics and see who can ride a proper bike that can be see a rider do his stuff
Relevance??
No one is even close to the marketing giant that Rossi was and still is today..
Haaaa
@@JehangirMushtaq
Hmmmm
The t-shirt salesman........ 😂
Why is Ducati a charity foundation.stoner should stop the hate.ducati has hired almost every superstar in MotoGP including him n rossi
To continue to be the number 1 manufacturer you have to choose the top rider. Hands down Mark is the best choice. Ducati workers get ready for lots of overtime pay for the near future.
What championship are you watching, 2019?
Casey Stoner was one heck of a rider (respect), but his comments may be more toxic than they are accurate (he has been right on many occasions).
Show a video of Stoner saying anything you mentioned. Otherwise, it's just your opinion and speculation.
“Stoner the moaner” ringing ever more true. Last time I looked there’s Morbidelli on a GP25, Alex Marquez, Digi and Bezecchi on GP24s like MM. There’s only MM on a Ducati running with Martin, Bagnaia and Bastiani.
Is it any different from Stoners days?
Marqez going to Ducati is the best reason to buy an Aprilia that I've ever seen.
Marc Márquez is the only reason the audience has increase massively this year
No other rider can overtake 46 riders in two weekends, an absolute genius. Hate or love him he s the absolute show and the only reason this is not become boring as fórmula 1
@@jorgefernandez8728 It is as boring as F1.
@jorgefernandez8728 Martin vs Pecco is the reason for the increased interest.
@@seanyuke3249 Absolute brainless if you think MotoGP is as boring as F1. And Marquez going to Ducati will increase their sales dramatically, it sounds like you're apart of the famous Rossi rim cleaning club.
@@Necrophat No. I go back way further than Rossi. I don't mind being called brainless by a johnny come lately dipshit. It's king of reaffirming. Thanks.
This is the same thing happening with every sport. That is why I have declining respect and interest towards the sport and it's players. The pure joy of the sport has been sqashed under excrssive capitalism.
Maybe thats also why you didnt realize that the Ducati move has nothing to do with politics? Maybe pay attention and dont listen to Stoners nonsense and think he is allmighty. Everyone can win on a GP24, but look where the other GP23 riders are compared to Marquez. He has beaten all GP24 several times on a 1 year old bike from which Gigi himself said that the GP24 made a bigger step compared to GP23. Its about talent, but Stoner doesnt like to hear this, because he is a grumpy drama queen.
Have a cry why don’t you and I don’t think anyone would really care if you stopped watching you sound like Casey stoned and he is a real wa:$&r
@Cartel893 I don't deny that MM is a great rider. He is currently my favorite. But, there is no denying fact that excessive use of tech helps the riders escape tricky situations easily like High side while exiting from a corner. The sport has become more tech dependent and less of riders talent. And the future is even more so.
@@85amitray this is all based on a motorbike that is 200 ccs bigger engine compacity and almost 60 kg in weight and these aids are around to protect the rider these are all things that Casey stoner fails to acknowledge that the bikes of this era are almost 100 km and hour faster then the bikes of his era
@@Cartel893 What you are saying isn't totally fair since we have 3 injured riders who will easily be behind him for different reasons than skills alone. DiGiannantonio has a dislocated shoulder, Bastianini missed part of last year due to an accident he didn't cause and only now is showing he's returning to form, Mobidelli missed the training and the tests pre-season ... I agree MM is possibly the most talented (and sometimes wreckless) but it's also true that his bike has every possible update that was compatible with both gp24 and 23. Let's wait the next races to see what happens.
The truth is brutal? Deal with it. 🤣
it can go the opposite way, less bikes sold due to MM presence and fact that he is widely hated throughout the world and if you add that Ducati major market is Italy... well I think is a boomerang decision
The hate for Marquez comes from simple minded people who watch racing for the riders and not the racing. It stems from Rossi, every rider who beat Rossi is hated...Stoner, Gibernau etc. It's petty. Ducati will sell more bikes either way because their quality and range is growing every year. There's zero chance Ducati will sell less bikes that's ridiculous.
@@CRFLAusspot on comment - well said
Upon what evidence do you base the statement "MM...is widely hated throughout the world"? True fans of the sport don't "hate" Marc Marquez, or any other rider; they appreciate the skill, competition and excitement generated and put on display at every round whilst cheering on their own heroes. Hating one of the most successful and influential talents of the last 15 years is irrational.
Stoner should stop to riddle. He left Ducati cause Rossi was available und he was pushed out of Honda cause Marc should get the bike. In 2012 Rookies were not allowed to enter a factory team. Therefore Bradl ended up at LCR. HRC and Ezpeleta used the whole season 2012 to get rid of this rule...Stoner was the last obstacle for Marquez. I hope Peco, Martin and Bastianini never forget the dirty games which brought Marquez to Ducati.
What a brilliant answer someone who knows about racing and moto gp.great post
Plot hole........... Stoner retired. 😂
He is right. This is exactly why the Honda is in such a scat position. Honda built a bike around MM and his style of riding. Now, no one can ride it now that MM is gone.
Jealousy is a bitch!! It’s like a corrosive feeling on ppl that can’t live with success of the best of the best! You deserve it Marquez!! GO GO 93!!!
Oh shuttup
@@paulmolles4445 For You Yellow Clown!!
@@paulmolles4445 Better than that yellow loser who kicked people from bike cause he can't outperform them .
Stoner has always made truthful and straight-to-the-point comments. And he has also pointed out many times in more or less ways that politics and electronics have destroyed the rawness of real racing. Personally? Marquez has never been tested on a bike without significant electronic aids. With his HUGE 238+ crash record (highest by far of any rider in MotoGP) he's proving he requires electronics to be at the top. I think Ducati have made a mistake with him. He cannot develop a bike to make it better for one. And two, he is a sociopathic character without any moral restraints and has bought shame to the sport with his antics in the past. Having a personality like him will mean lowkey sabotage, dirty play and unfortunately, the potential for injury for Bagnaia.
These are ridiculous claims. Every single rider has crashed into other riders. What about Luca Marini that essentially ruined Enea's entire 2023 season in the first sprint of the year? The Rossi fans always claimed Stoner was only fast because of his reliance on electronics. Then over the years it came out that Stoner used less electronics than anyone. Rossi fans also claimed Rossi could "develop a bike" and would turn the Ducati into a winning bike, and yet the bike got worse while he was riding the Ducati. I feel the Rossi fans that spread this "Marc can't develop a bike" nonsense are likely wrong again. Marc has lots of crashes because he rode the Honda for so long and their electronics are nearly as good as Ducati electronics. So he has likely had less electronic aids over the years than all of the current riders. Look how much less he is crashing in 2024 now that he is on a good bike. Yet Mir is crashing as much as ever. "lowkey sabotage", lol. Pecco took Marc out this year, not the other way around. You sound like you are someone that lays awake at night worrying that Marc might have a chance to win more championships than Rossi.
I smell salty VR fan.🤡🤡 Full of nonsense. Its ironic that Pecco made Marquez crash once and almost twice if Marquez didnt hold back. So who is dangerous for who`? You bitter clowns need to grow up. Marquez has proven to win on a worse bike against ducati many times. And what the hell are you talking about electronics? Electronics are part of MotoGP since decades. Your claim is the dumbest thing ive ever heard in MotoGP. Marquez won the Championship as a ROOKIE gainst Rossi and Lorenzo on their Peak on Peak Yamaha. If Marquez needs electronics, then Lorenzo and Rossi even more😂😂
Any chance you could get just a wee bit creative and not use the word "brutal" in ALL of your thumbnails? I've yet to find anything brutal.
There was no politics involved. MM just impressed more with the 23 Duc than Martin. Gigi is a guy who doesnt care about politics or nationality, he is a numbers guy and just look where all the 23 Duc riders re compared to Marc. I always liked Stoner, but sometimes he is just full of shit.
It will be interesting in 2025 watching Marc and Lewis struggling to keep their teammates behind on same machinery
Will Ducati sell more bikes because of Marquez? that's a long stretch. Is the Moto GP attendance increasing because Marquez is competitive again? I think it's more because of the after-Covid phenomenon, not because of Marquez. Undoubtedly, he is who he is, but not that many people like him (like most, I much prefer VR).
Almost all “GP” channel hates 93😅 ☝️🖕🏻
Stoner is done and should not project his weaknesses onto current riders.
MM93 rode the GP23 around Mugello18 seconds faster than Bagnaia's (or Martin) winning time in 2023!! 18 seconds faster than the 2023 World Champion who knows the Ducati bikes like the back of his hand. Marc Marquez sold his talent to Ducati by clear demonstrations of his riding skill. Ducati will not want him to get away.
Casey has a similar mystique to Mike Hailwood. We will appreciate him more when time has passed. Deus vult!
Ducati selling more bikes with Marquez...hope their not disappointed. Get ready for sparks in the camp next year.
Despite the hate marquez has on him ,he will sell more than Martin and thats a fact..also not the only reason,he's a legend like doohan,rossi,stoner and it would have been very stupid letting him go to another factory
This is not only a sport hobby. It's business... w/out revenues, there is not investiment in motogp. W/out Motogp, there is not P&D, then not new tecnology, no New bikes for Market. Beyond the sport, there is company going concern.
V. Rossi did well on the Ducati, well not really. It was to be Honest embarrassing.
When are you people going to tell it as it is Ducati when Rossi went there was not a competitive bike but you know it all's like to put a mark against Rossi because he wasn't successful on it WTF.
@@Letsgetiton41 Exactly. Rossi rode Ducati before the new engineer changed it completely. It was not an agile bike, it couldn't turn. But you are right, some ignorant people just enjoy spitting on the GOAT.
Real legend 60 year old Jeremy McWilliams still riding at a high level in some of the most dangerous races. Hope some of these riders follow in his footsteps one day .
mm is the greatest troll in motogp history:
trashed honda
haven't won a race for 4 years
used gresini as step and left
kicked jm, bestia off ducati
created the most silliest season on motogp history
😂😂😂😂😂 In 3 years Márquez will the GOAT!!!! 9 MotoGP championships!!! Envy is very bad…..
Marq marquez in Ducati and Lewis hamilton in Ferrari hitting similar chords
Yes there both over the hill. Deal with it 😂😂😂😂😂
Toprak razgatlıoglu
Everything about business and money...
Make one thing clear, Ducati will put the best rider on the bike no matter if they are Italian or from Mars. Marquez has had his troubles but he's burning brighter than ever right now.
Yep, brighter in hitting the ground XD
It’s not politics it’s Economics
Mark is a legend world loves him
I haven’t been watching this sport long and this guy seems to not like electronics much lol
electronics kill the human skills, Stonner is right many will agree with him.
Go back and watch the 500s. Then you will know why.
@@seanyuke3249 why were electronics introduced?
@@janickfievet8315 why were they introduced?
@@JobeRacing not for the sport for sure, for money making only and the game industry also.
Everyone doesn't age the same way.. Cut that age crap
Casey was a great, natural rider and I agree with him about the electronics. Even his nemesis, Rossi said it years earlier.
I do think he's a bit toxic these days with him comments though.
Ducati want Marc because he's the most successful rider since Rossi and it's a massive win over Honda etc.
Marc is towards the end of his career especially considering his injuries on the Honda.
Will Marc win the championship on the Duke? Who knows but he has adapted quickly and lets face it he has a personality unlike anyone in Moto GP these days now Rossi has gone.
Yeah, Stoner is right. That choice based on the profit only 😠
Profit only? So Marquez didnt performed well with the Ducati right?🤡🤡 Stop being a salty loser. Ducati is selling enough bikes, whoever thinks Ducati got MM for selling more bikes is a massive knobhead. THe money they pay him will be hardly covered with bike sales.
Why are we still asking opinions to this guy?
Might have something to do with the fact that he’s more qualified than most to give it.
2 time world champ? Deeper thinker than most and a bloody good communicator about what goes on bike racing and behind the scenes. Tend to agree racing was more interesting without anti wheelie, traction control and aero. Mick Doohan was a man amongst men because he could control the beast that was the NSR500 wet and dry with analog controls
Who the fuck out there is going to buy a Ducati just because Marc joined the team? If you wanted a Ducati you'd buy one regardless of Marc, if you couldn't afford or didn't want one you wouldn't get one anyway even if Marc joined.
Just what I was wondering, but I dunno what Ducati sales are like in Spain where #93 is (or was?) king. Is it Pedro Acosta now? GASGAS sales going up, Honda sales going down...Repsol going away?
I Believe M. Marquez would have Beat C. Stoner from 2013 - 2018.
But, who would have come out on top Marquez or Simoncelli? That would have been spectacular to see.
Sadly we will never know
Ducati has started a pest in the nest
nonesense , people like me , who buy new bikes are not 20 year old pc cultured mm fans . mm is so huge because of asian audience and the masses . same why ronaldo is more popular then messi among kids .
There's no R in Ducati..
No…but there is in Motorcycle and Racing.
Marquez is a talent to be sure. Is he better than Pecco or Martin? No. Is he more “marketable”? Certainly moreso than Martin. Sometimes skill and talent aren’t the only factors, even in MotoGP. I recognize Marc’s skill, but hope he doesn’t win his 9th championship and is beaten by Pecco, Acosta, and/or Martin.
He is just a fraction off of Pecco and Martin and is on the bike that they started 2023 with. He is every bit as good and maybe better than then.
@@lemmy999 maybe. Hopefully we will get to see via the results.
With Ducati 2024 he would be the best… by far. With Ducati 2023 he will fight to be the Champion….
But now martin is unlikely to get the same support the rest of the year from duc so that he doesn't take the number one plate to aprillia
Stoner is a great Champion who don't like electronic stuff. Skill is one part of it. Now is 80% Electromic. On those top great bike. Whether is European or Japanese.😢
DucatiGP zzzz sopped subscribing... done.
Marquez's big question is who am I going to follow?
Just the fact that 8 times WC risk all to leave Honda and join a last years team
With the same bike it will all look different in 2025
Marc goes to Ducati….Weak wanna prove your the best jump back on the Honda and WIn thats right you couldn’t. Rossi went to the M1 and Stoner won on The OG Ducati those are hero’s Marc just pathetic at this point.
Market itu harus stoner 😂 dia laku keras takkanlah DUCATI nak tolak MARQUEZ ❗
This is all wrong Marc only wanted the latest spec bike at grisini but Ducati didn't want Marc winning a championship on a satellite squad
Flash in the pan Casey. Gut issues took him out.
marquez will wipe the floor with the works ducati
Stoner is history not willing to be history.
hahaha winning on Sunday selling on Monday 🤣 and standing at the dealer on Tuesday with a broken Ducati. Then you're not really smart. If you fall for that hahaha but I agree with stonner 👍🏻✊🏻👍🏻
Why the hateman? i got 4 in my garage that never had an issue
I don't hate Ducati. Beautiful. But I have had 4 new ones.. Only problems.. I have been driving motorcycles for 44 years. I have had many brands. So that is my experience.👍🏻
lol this guys wins 2 championship and try making a big fuss about it always giving his unwanted statement . try winning 8 times and we will see about it 😂😂😂 . what a shame to be at same level as rossi and marqueez 😂😂😂
You can always tell who knows nothing about MotoGP or motorbikes with comments like these....
@@G-Man01 bro why cant u guys accept the fact that marc marquezz is way better than stoner . atleast he is trying his best with different teams and still is competetive than ever , and yaaa about moto gp and moto gp bike technology has evolved and should learned to adapt with it otherwise whats the use of all those factory team there , putting thier inputs and their technology to improve the whole world of motorcycle , otherwise u shouldnt watch yourself moto gp and wished that everyone have a 100cc bike with same spec and brand and have a race ..... grow up sucker 🤣🤣
and to add at last ur casey is nothing but jealous what marqueez is acheiving so far , if not then go tell ur guy to come and race than not to sit like sissy and always trying to get attention , and i am prity sure he doubtlfully said he had some kind of problem that he wouldnt be able to ride again as before but tell ur guy to look at marc , he crashed and had that crazy stiches on his arm but he fight , he fight with himself and all the critics and is up there again winning and enjoying . so if u dont like what u seeing than sorry dude , marc is here to evolve so live with it 🤣🤣
Who keeps giving a shit about Stoner?
Danny did all of the hard work on the Honda along comes Stoner From a Ducati that was so bad he couldn’t ride it any more ( Good luck with that Rossi ) and gets on a winning Honda and guess what Wins easily really same thing with Marc. Now the Honda is totally useless Marc wants the best bike on the Grid 🤔 Why Well he can just jump on it and win 🤣🤣 all the hard work has been done true Champions 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 i could go on 99 Lorenzo I WANT THE BEST OR IM TAKING MY BALL AND GOING HOME 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Casey Stoner needs to go and do something else. No one doubts he was an amazing rider, but he’s no longer relevant anymore.
Apparently Stoner is a bit jealous of Marquez. For whatever reason. In my view, it's all a matter of him seeing in Marquez a talent that even he doesn't have.
Come on Stoner… Get a life
Who cares what Stoner says, he was the biggest sook in racing…
Marc go to ducati will increase the sell? yeah for some buyer only buy because of that but a Rider don't buy bike by brand
Marc Marquez is (arguably) the biggest brand in MotoGP to date
I wish Stoner would just go away.
People only go away when other people stop asking them questions.
@@61js A lot of peoples in the close entourage and commentating for different TV or internet channels like retired ex riders do think like Stoner, but because of their employed contract, they cannot have the same free speech. Stoner is in this position to have.
A lot of peoples in the close entourage and commentating for different TV or internet channels like retired ex riders do think like Stoner, but because of their employed contract, they cannot have the same free speech. Stoner is in this position to have.
Stoner is jealous coz he is no longer the legend in ducati 😂.... pecco beat his record easily
Who cares about what stoner says ? Let him come back and talk in the track. 😂
Doesnt matter what marquez does he will never win another championship. He isnt as fast as pecco and martin
Marquez is the best rider of all time along with Rossi, no debate on that.
Don't get the hate on Marc because he brings the show and the spotlight to motogp like anyone else at the moment with a bike of last year something the rest are not able to do even in their best dreams
8 times world champion vs a talented rider already 3 years at Ducati winning nothing, people have no idea what it's talking about
He s 31 years old at the moment don't lie and physically he s way more prepared to win many titles at a longer age than Rossi, embarrassing hater
Marquez can only ride good on a fast bike he cant help make a bike faster like rossi and stoner can. When he came in he got on the fatest bike thst he didnt make fast
He isnt the best get over yourself
I'm looking forward to 2027
This video is aging well............
I repeat aging well......... 😂
Casey is a good rider but still he is second to Marc.You're not gonna find a talent like Marc again for a long time
Toprak is the most talented rider today
Marc likes grisini but he wasn't secretly trying to get the factory seat I bet he was like shocked the writing is on the wall his 2nd year on the duc is when he will shine
Moaners gonna moan
He’s always been jealous!! go Marq! F Casey
Don't give one chit what stoner has to say.All he did was cry about everything while in GP
I can't take anything serious coming from Stoners after his comment to one of the greatest riders in Motogp "Obviously your ambition outweighs your talent."
Same old Aussis, always winging.
I think Casey stoner needs to shut his mouth he is out of the sport and he does nothing but put other riders and teams down and I’m an Aussie
Are you sleeping with Casey stoner? Stoner was one of the most hated riders of any MotoGP period so his opinion will never matter.
What a load of crap. The most naturally talented rider of his era, his opinion matters a lot more than yours
@@brettgolledge5820 what a load of crap…as you put it 🤣🤣🤣🤣he’s a w⚓️…..good riddance he’s gone…perhaps you can join him? 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
@@andyfry745 you are an A grade 🤡.
Stoner is right Ducati has made wrong decision and markez is one it's not about sales for us it's about racing and respecting ur drivers ask stoner peco will leave Ducati soon and I hope to Aprilia or vr 46 😮
stoner is nothing he is little mosquito by baby alien his thought is nothing
MM would still have beat him , stoner was too busy whining,
Marquez is rectal cancer to any team. Ducati just fucked up.
Another bitter rossi fan having a rant
Sounds like fear
As a Rossi fan,I'm not bitter at all BUT pretty bloody ironic that if VR46 hadn't performed so badly on the Ducati in 2011/2012 they wouldn't have employed Gigi Dall'Igna to turn their fortunes around,the very same guy who has allowed Marquez to sneak in through the back door to get a full factory ride,rather than accepting the Gp25 available via Pramac.JM89 will have an axe to grind,so hopefully he takes the No.1 plate to Aprilia,I can't imagine Enea is too chuffed either,well played by Marquez though,getting not one but 2 adversaries onto potentially inferior machines,whilst getting the most capable bike currently on the grid.
Credit to Stoner that man was a one off,nobody was really capable of riding that Duke like him,but notice the only Honda MotoGp champion other than Marquez since 2011 is none other than Casey Stoner,and he knows more about the politics in MotoGp than most keyboard warriors.
I just hope Ducati don't try to build a bike just around Marquez to the detriment of others in the team,Ducati may of done that with Stoner back in the day and it didn't work out well,following Marquez lead hasn't done Honda any good either it seems........
@@michaelleaver1766 As a Marquez fan I agree that Marc shoud not be testing bikes as he rides like nobody else and Hondas demise is largely due to him. Listen to Crutchlow how he always complained that Honda was developing a bike that was fast but nobody could ride it.
@eragon96grasel Honda must shoulder most of the blame,the Japanese Manafacturers are normally pragmatic,they meaning Honda 1st got the rookies rule changed to their benefit to accommodate him,and when he won consistently just followed him rather than the other riders in the team.Putting all the eggs in 1 basket isn't a good move in a supposed team game.....Pedrosa never stood a chance whilst Marquez was there,arguably one of the greatest riders never to win a championship,Pedrosa was a TEAM player,MM93 not so.