What if... it was just the rings seating in for the first 4000 miles? Try going back to Valvoline and see if it repeats... That would be proof in scientific study.
I hotshot, my 6.7 gets Walmart cheap 15w-40 and a motorcraft filter every 5k. Runs great zero issues, regens like it should and the filter usually stays at 0% on all my runs.
Back when I ran a "fart catcher" on my '19 Ram 6.7 S.O., I got a forced regen every 24 hours of use on the engine timer(idle & driving). I was running Rotella T6. I run Amsoil now because my rocker trunnions looked like shit after 25k miles when I studded it. Parts fell off but the DPF looked excellent at 25k miles. T6 probably is good for emissions systems but might be lacking in the additives that reduce wear. It's a balancing act between emissions system life and engine wear. Pick your poison. I recently went into the rocker box again at 60k miles since switched to Amsoil at 25k and wear is now controlled. Almost nothing to see or be concerned about. I do 10k intervals.
Hell my 2022 f450 lariat at 300 miles I was hauling 32k, did my first oil change at 7,500 miles. And 6-8k ever since. 34,000 miles no issues. Hauling up to 40k in the mtns
My 2023 f350 acted very similar to what you described. Between 5-8k it seemed to figure out what it needed to do to avoid the aggressive regen and just stay clean going down the road. I used motorcraft 10w30 until I hit 50k when I switched to rotella t6 5w40. First oil change at 500, second at 1500, third at 5k. What you were seeing may have had nothing to do with the oil.
Hell my 2022 f450 lariat at 300 miles I was hauling 32k, did my first oil change at 7,500 miles. And 6-8k ever since. 34,000 miles no issues. Hauling up to 40k in the mins
I only do about 35k miles a year on my 17 6.7. I change my oil every 15k. Run oil analysis test consistently as of recent. Going for 20k on my next change. Running rotella t6 5w-40. Truck works very hard and sees extreme cold in north west Montana. I’m at 216k and haven’t touched the engine besides 1 glow plug and a set of exhaust manifolds. I’d say stick with 1 oil though. Seems better to me. I’m also no expert. Just my experience. I do plenty of highway, backroads, idle. A good mix.
Since the rotella is working so well, why do you plan to switch away from it in the future? Also, really like how you are able to look at different cases and recommend products accordingly, like saying valvoline isn’t right for the power stroke, but did great in the Honda.
I'm wondering the same thing. First oil change coming up on my RAM 2500 and was planning to put T6 in it, wondering why he prefers Schaffers or Amsoil.
Any particular reason you're not sticking with Rotella, beyond personal preference? Coming up on my first oil change on my '21 RAM (it was changed by the dealer before I purchased it). I planned on putting T6 10w30 in it and then getting an oil test done when I change it in 5k miles. Maybe I'll try Amsoil in there as well and have another test done to compare.
Hey Paul. Are you saying that maybe the evaporative loss is causing increased regens or that the 6.7 is consuming oil causing the regen? Also I run a 21' mega cab HO. Maybe it's a good thing but i do mostly highway towing and rarely regen. With Valvoline or Amsoil
Can't wait to see if you notice a change when you switch to your regular oil. I need to look for that Valvoline oil. Have an old Dodge minivan with 400,000 Miles on it.
@@wildmanofthewynooch7028Well... Not exactly. "Has to be" if you are shooting for the "up to 100% deposit removal" maybe... BUT after just its first 90 hours (Approx 4000 miles) you'll probably see some significant difference/cleaning... So yeah while continuous use will help "Restore" the Engine and "Protect" it from new Deposits... The cleaning is happening as long as you're using it. You could swap to different oil(s) but if it does what it claims why switch back right away?
Now, yesterday. On a motorcycle channel. He was talking about oil. With what Valvoline oil is doing. It's amazing. Yet. I said with every type of engine (but) diesel. Only Rotella for diesel engines.
I would like to hear and I’m sure many others what your thoughts are about R 99 and R 95 I’ve heard great things and run it as often as I can, but would like to hear your opinion
Technically the Valvoline 10w30 isn’t on the ford approved list. Possibly because it doesn’t have the correct formulation. Maybe why you were having issues. The Valvoline 5w40 is approved though.
Just run Motorcraft synthetic diesel until the warranty goes. Watch project farms it places high in all categories beating rotella in most. It’s what the engineers use it’s what it was designed to use.
Because the engine always burns a tiny amount of oil, if it has tons of metals or produces a lot of ash when it burns then that cakes into your dpf and it can't be burned out
We ditched t6 and went to petro Canada Duron UHP 5w-40. Gross 45+ daily on multiple f450’s no engine problems or emissions issues. Get it cheaper in bulk than Shell.
Just moved to Rotella T6 10w30, since it ea recently released and at Wally W shelves. 17 F350 6.7 CC LB SRW 4WD daily driver on a fitness program. Only 1,200 miles so far, time will tell...maybe slight mpg vice 5w40.
@@willb7975 I had a brand new 2017 F350 SRW diesel with 160k miles that I just replaced with my new 23 Ram 3500 Cummins HO. The power stroke has been very reliable since day one except for the front end suspension light wobbles and rear diff leak at 20k miles. I used Rotella T6 5w-40 since first oil & filter change at 7,500 miles then every 8500 to 10,000 miles intervals. Also, used the power service from Walmart every other fill and winter anti-gel. Never had any emission problem. By way, I live on the road full-time and the ford pulled my 31 foot 9,000 lbs. Outdoors RV travel trailer to the desert, washboard, and many unpaved roads as I stay and volunteer for the Public Lands like BLM, National park, and local desert landscapes. Really like the ford but my Ram has a way better engine brake and more stable towing or empty. To be fair, the ford is srw and ram is dually.
What the he'll are you talking about ,put oil in it change every 5000 miles move on ,we have fleet ok power strokes most have 250000 miles and still running
These are the real world tests that help the average guy so much! Thank you kind sir!
What if... it was just the rings seating in for the first 4000 miles? Try going back to Valvoline and see if it repeats... That would be proof in scientific study.
That Valvoline oil was tested and showed to actually de-carbon the rings and piston. You are correct, it is game changing.
@@markcarraway879 it’s all marketing false advertising by valvoline, look beyond marketing and you will realize
I hotshot, my 6.7 gets Walmart cheap 15w-40 and a motorcraft filter every 5k. Runs great zero issues, regens like it should and the filter usually stays at 0% on all my runs.
You should also recomend fuel treatment like hotshot. Fuel is engine oil biggest weakness.
Archoil is much better than Hotshots.
Could be the engine breaking in and not the oil. Would like to see this comparison with a higher mileage truck
Hey at least the 23 and up power strokes have a 9th injector before the DPF to raise EGTS versus dumping a bunch of extra fuel into the motor.
Actually 2020 and later
@@mojo4376nope. Started in 23, 20/22 totally different dpf/scr assy than the 23/24
Back when I ran a "fart catcher" on my '19 Ram 6.7 S.O., I got a forced regen every 24 hours of use on the engine timer(idle & driving). I was running Rotella T6. I run Amsoil now because my rocker trunnions looked like shit after 25k miles when I studded it. Parts fell off but the DPF looked excellent at 25k miles. T6 probably is good for emissions systems but might be lacking in the additives that reduce wear. It's a balancing act between emissions system life and engine wear. Pick your poison. I recently went into the rocker box again at 60k miles since switched to Amsoil at 25k and wear is now controlled. Almost nothing to see or be concerned about. I do 10k intervals.
Hell my 2022 f450 lariat at 300 miles I was hauling 32k, did my first oil change at 7,500 miles. And 6-8k ever since. 34,000 miles no issues. Hauling up to 40k in the mtns
My 2023 f350 acted very similar to what you described. Between 5-8k it seemed to figure out what it needed to do to avoid the aggressive regen and just stay clean going down the road. I used motorcraft 10w30 until I hit 50k when I switched to rotella t6 5w40. First oil change at 500, second at 1500, third at 5k.
What you were seeing may have had nothing to do with the oil.
Hell my 2022 f450 lariat at 300 miles I was hauling 32k, did my first oil change at 7,500 miles. And 6-8k ever since. 34,000 miles no issues. Hauling up to 40k in the mins
Would never have thought choice of oil would make a difference.
Zinc makes a huge difference in cat/DPF life.
If you want to learn about oil, follow Lake Speed JR.
He's too fast to follow with his "Speed".
It’s a tough call because of break in. Run it again and see what happens.
I only do about 35k miles a year on my 17 6.7. I change my oil every 15k. Run oil analysis test consistently as of recent. Going for 20k on my next change. Running rotella t6 5w-40. Truck works very hard and sees extreme cold in north west Montana.
I’m at 216k and haven’t touched the engine besides 1 glow plug and a set of exhaust manifolds. I’d say stick with 1 oil though. Seems better to me. I’m also no expert. Just my experience. I do plenty of highway, backroads, idle. A good mix.
Watching your video made me dizzy with you constantly moving around everywhere.
He tarded
Definitely agree. gotta sit still heads spinning
Incredible findings and attention to detail.
Since the rotella is working so well, why do you plan to switch away from it in the future? Also, really like how you are able to look at different cases and recommend products accordingly, like saying valvoline isn’t right for the power stroke, but did great in the Honda.
I'm wondering the same thing. First oil change coming up on my RAM 2500 and was planning to put T6 in it, wondering why he prefers Schaffers or Amsoil.
Do an oil analysis on that T5. I did and I was getting low TBN and viscosity thinning.
i never thought about how oil makes a sucha big diffrence
Your after market wells look wicked, lol!
Any particular reason you're not sticking with Rotella, beyond personal preference? Coming up on my first oil change on my '21 RAM (it was changed by the dealer before I purchased it). I planned on putting T6 10w30 in it and then getting an oil test done when I change it in 5k miles. Maybe I'll try Amsoil in there as well and have another test done to compare.
Hey Paul. Are you saying that maybe the evaporative loss is causing increased regens or that the 6.7 is consuming oil causing the regen? Also I run a 21' mega cab HO. Maybe it's a good thing but i do mostly highway towing and rarely regen. With Valvoline or Amsoil
Can't wait to see if you notice a change when you switch to your regular oil. I need to look for that Valvoline oil. Have an old Dodge minivan with 400,000 Miles on it.
Restore and protect has to be used for four oil changes.
@@wildmanofthewynooch7028Well... Not exactly. "Has to be" if you are shooting for the "up to 100% deposit removal" maybe... BUT after just its first 90 hours (Approx 4000 miles) you'll probably see some significant difference/cleaning...
So yeah while continuous use will help "Restore" the Engine and "Protect" it from new Deposits... The cleaning is happening as long as you're using it. You could swap to different oil(s) but if it does what it claims why switch back right away?
Why didn’t you put Schaffers in it?
Now, yesterday. On a motorcycle channel. He was talking about oil. With what Valvoline oil is doing. It's amazing. Yet. I said with every type of engine (but) diesel. Only Rotella for diesel engines.
It’s your fuel and fuel additive that Causes less regeneration or more. It’s not you oil.
I would like to hear and I’m sure many others what your thoughts are about R 99 and R 95 I’ve heard great things and run it as often as I can, but would like to hear your opinion
Technically the Valvoline 10w30 isn’t on the ford approved list. Possibly because it doesn’t have the correct formulation. Maybe why you were having issues. The Valvoline 5w40 is approved though.
Id do rotella t6 and change oil every 5k. I use penzoil on the gas engines, still shell owned company. Nothing better then american oil.
love the vids!
I am so happy I don't have an EGR or ccv or any of that crap. The government doesn't have it on their trucks either
Good for you👍🏻
Should’ve kept the factory stock rims
Just run Motorcraft synthetic diesel until the warranty goes. Watch project farms it places high in all categories beating rotella in most. It’s what the engineers use it’s what it was designed to use.
I am still dizzy. Stop moving around next time
Why so many oil changes? I hear you on the first one at 800. You know that you gotta give time for the rings to seat…
Is it ok to switch up different brands of oil like that
WTF does the oil have to fo with regens?
Because the engine always burns a tiny amount of oil, if it has tons of metals or produces a lot of ash when it burns then that cakes into your dpf and it can't be burned out
We ditched t6 and went to petro Canada Duron UHP 5w-40. Gross 45+ daily on multiple f450’s no engine problems or emissions issues. Get it cheaper in bulk than Shell.
Why not t6 instead of T5?
How can I apply to your company?
Use T-6 it’s even better than T-6
Just moved to Rotella T6 10w30, since it ea recently released and at Wally W shelves. 17 F350 6.7 CC LB SRW 4WD daily driver on a fitness program. Only 1,200 miles so far, time will tell...maybe slight mpg vice 5w40.
@@willb7975 I had a brand new 2017 F350 SRW diesel with 160k miles that I just replaced with my new 23 Ram 3500 Cummins HO. The power stroke has been very reliable since day one except for the front end suspension light wobbles and rear diff leak at 20k miles. I used Rotella T6 5w-40 since first oil & filter change at 7,500 miles then every 8500 to 10,000 miles intervals. Also, used the power service from Walmart every other fill and winter anti-gel. Never had any emission problem. By way, I live on the road full-time and the ford pulled my 31 foot 9,000 lbs. Outdoors RV travel trailer to the desert, washboard, and many unpaved roads as I stay and volunteer for the Public Lands like BLM, National park, and local desert landscapes. Really like the ford but my Ram has a way better engine brake and more stable towing or empty. To be fair, the ford is srw and ram is dually.
What the he'll are you talking about ,put oil in it change every 5000 miles move on ,we have fleet ok power strokes most have 250000 miles and still running
Not to be that guy but it sounds like BS
It's true
@@wizard_of_poz4413 should do oil analysis
Quit using Rotella. Use Motorcrft 15w-40
Never had any issues with any rotella engines we use
Sell it immediately.
Run away as fast as you can from this brand