Expert REVEALS TRUTH About Fluoride in Water
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- Опубліковано 29 січ 2025
- James Li is joined by Dr. Staci to discuss the real impacts of flouride.
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The Netherlands removed fluoride since 1976 and our dental health is among the best in the world.
Yea but they don’t consume sugar like the US 😂
The U.S. has among the worst dental healthcare, so we won't have such a great result.
@@johnhenderson8443 did you watch the video at all? the whole thing disagrees with your statement.
Too many variables on this one.
@@johnhenderson8443 So it's the world's worst dental health - but no need to change it?
Adding Fluoride to water and then coming up with a 24 oz mega gulp that contains 50 gr of sugar is such an American thing.
50g? Try 100
We have 64 Oz drinks
💯👌👍
50 grams of sugar is a very low, low underestimate for American sugar-drinking cattle lmao
@@michaeldob9526 both are bad.
I'm old enough to remember that simply bringing up issues with Fluoride in the water got you labeled as a hippy conspiracy nut
Yes, I've been against it for decades even bringing it up had such visceral backlash propaganda is quite a drug. So glad we are finally at least having these conversations, a glimmer of hope on a bleak horizon.
@animatorsteven I've been in well water for 8 years and stopped fluoride at dentist for me and kids many many years ago
Still happens.
It still basically does. I think most people still eat up the propaganda that it's a sole good with zero risk.
And it has joined many many others as proven to be true.
Brawndo has electrolytes
It has what plants crave
it is green
You drink water? From the toilet?
Brawndo: The Thirst Mutilator
@guitarsix7 Never touch the stuff. Fish fuck in it.
Once critized fluoridated water with a Californian MD visiting Belgium. He got VERY smug, borderline angry like I was the village idiot questioning such "obvious" science. When I told him most EU countries don't flyoridate water he flat out told me I was wrong. "That's impossible!" Till we Googled it. You have to understand that even in "scientific consensus," the vast majority of scientists are not experts in that subject. They are following the herd like everyone else.
Bingo.
Yeah very true. Most scientists are very niche experts and even then can get blinded by their own bias. Plenty of recent cases of scientists getting obsessed with theories based on their life's work that turn out to be frauds.
1.Actual science should evolve with new evidence
2.Science is highly corruptible industry
3.its also very conservative with gatekeeping
Have you seen their teeth?
@@christyann1201apart from the dirty English, their EU teeth are amazing
It was introduced in the 50s? Anything that old needs to be restudied and the whole issue revisited. That's common sense, not conspiracy theory. Lots of things were promoted with the best of intentions but I want to see honest studies conducted in the last 10 years, not studies from the 30's.
Alex Jones made Fluoride a conspiracy theory 20 years ago.
It was introduced to our drinking water in the 50's, but there were many tests done by the German scientists during the holocaust. As an extermination tool\weapon.
True but GOD. We have products coming out every day that we ingest, slather on our skin, and inhale that hasn’t been studied in the first 10 years of its existence. We need to fix that also.
Nope, smoking is still healthy and formula beats the breast.
Jack D. Ripper was right!
No human wants to know that their ignorance has lead to the harm of others or that they have been wrong about a topic for years.
Well...no true human...😮
So they'd prefer to keep causing harm?
MISINFORMATION. REPORTED.
@@NI4NI-y5f Are you even serious?? You want to cancel the bearer of uncomfortable evidence-based information? If you paid attention to the video you'd have seen we've been dogmatically following misinformation for years.
Now do vaccines
Anyone remember when ALL the experts said mercury fillings were safe? Lol.
Also doctors used to recommend smoking cigarettes. Also thalidomide was marketed to pregnant women for multiple years before it was pulled from the market.
@@Xanletyup and those Dr's. We're paid off by big money. Same stuff still happens.
Hate to say it, but mercury amalgam is not really that dangerous, people just became hyper cautious of mercury because of its salt toxicity. But metal mercury can be ingested without much consequence
No!! How old are you?
They still say this lol
Fluoride may be good for oral health, but we don't need to swallow it. It might be OK to put it into toothpaste and then rinsed out of the mouth.
It should be taken out of the public water system and made available to people that want to purchase it and use it willingly
The amount put in water is miniscule, regardless of the claims in this video. You would have to eat many tubes of toothpaste to get fluoride poisoning, or so much water you'd be poisoned by the water first.
@@d_dave7200 The same thing is said about mercury in fish. It might be "miniscule" but it can build up in your body.
@@d_dave7200 how about you prove us all wrong, and make a YT video of you consuming one or more tubes of toothpaste? then you could link to it here and BE RIGHT! please tell me when you do. I'm looking forward to it.
@@sbwification2 Fluoride does not build up in the body like mercury. Where in the body does fluoride build up in? Fluoride is water soluble; what is not used is expelled in urine. Even mercury from fish will eventually be expelled from the body.
You don't know what you are talking about.
Lol there is a correlation found In low iq in children and that is DOSE DEPENDENT. Not everywhere is flouride implemented at "safe" levels. Even "safe" levels based is questionable when it comes to neuro toxicity. So why INGEST it, is it that important? Then stop with the sugar.
Legalized bribery is the problem.
the good old usa and it wont change
ah yes big fluoride
Always has been, might always be.
@@hangukhiphopI got rich investing in big floride. They have a secret cabal that runs everything and the proof is that no one is talking about it! Don't pay attention to the open corruption, worry about what "they" control. And don't define who "they" are it's better if they remain a mystery.
We know who is doing the bribery
If you want fluoride in your water, you can add it yourself.
I shouldn't be exposed to it without consent.
Did you happen to see what happened to ppl who refused the v@×?
Not the same thing @@carynmartin6053
@@carynmartin6053I refused the vax and I’m perfectly fine. What do you mean?
@@carynmartin6053yeah. They were fine. I on the other hand got myocarditis.
@@carynmartin6053my cousin didn’t refuse the vax, now he’s in a wheelchair
I wish you guys would link some of the studies in the description
Edit: I'm not taking one side or the other here all I'm asking for is links to studies for convenience sake. I found the JAMA study, if I want to find the podcast she mentioned I have to spend more time etc
Agreed, I'd love to see the "studies"
@ChrisMissal literally the first Google result. ntp.niehs.nih.gov/whatwestudy/assessments/noncancer/completed/fluoride#:~:text=The%20meta%2Danalysis%20found%20that,drinking%20water%20affected%20children%27s%20IQ.
They're not going to do that, just in case you realize that all her claims are from cherry-picked, poor quality studies
@@ChrisMissal ntp.niehs.nih.gov/whatwestudy/assessments/noncancer/completed/fluoride
@@d_dave7200 Just go to Google and paste "nih pubmed fluoridation" into the search bar. When I did that the health risks were presented in search results 4 and 5. The Cochrane review I found suggested that there is evidence that Fluoridation helped some to prevent cavities in studies before 1975 when fluoridated toothpaste became common but they found no effectiveness in data after widespread fluoride toothpaste adoption. If you are familiar with Cochrane they are very good at answering questions like "is this experimental drug safe" and very bad at answering questions like "Is broccoli healthy" because of their strict evidence inclusion rules.
Fluoride in the water, but chocolate milk in the schools. High sugar diets are the problem in terms of fostering tooth decay.…period.
Research the difference between “fluoride” and the “fluoridating agents” that are putting used into the water. There is a difference and it matters. It’s why this topic is considered taboo.
Another question, how do the other countries who don’t fluoridate categorize fluoride? Do they consider it safe for consumption?
@@insectspimtech3902Your missing the point
The worst part is it’s chocolate skim milk or 1% milk…. they take out good fat and nutrients while adding sugar so kids will drink it.
@@RSCSBIB Um, no. Saturated fats are unhealthy and there is a mountain of evidence behind that. Google "Hegsted equation".
Do you need a tissue?
Water? You mean like from the toilet? I drink brawndo.
I just watched this the other day
It's what plants crave
It's got electrolytes
@@Dennis-xj8nh but what are electrolytes?!
@@cvillefarmer Is there an emoji for blank stare? I don't use them. Accept this description as a substitute.
What is not said: you might find calcium fluoride in the soil, but sodium fluoride in drinking water, which is toxic waste from aluminum processing.
Hope you never look into petroleum byproducts then...
Was surprised to hear the doctor say that our ancestors didn't get cavities. Human fossils have been found with cavities. A quick Google search shows that cavities are not a new thing and did in fact affect our ancestors.
Anyone who knows anything about animals also knows that they get cavities.
Don't forget. The host had Vani Hari on as a food expert when she has no education whatsoever in nutrition or food science
@ right. It's difficult to take the rest of the points she makes serious when she starts with two blatant lies
That's just because back before we had the technology to make tools, humans used to open all beer bottles with their teeth
When finding English shipwreck before the Indian sugar trade, the remains had great teeth compared I after the sugar trade.
11:39 "I think everyone has great intentions" and 11:50 "everyone wants the best for the population" ... I wish those statements were true. But history, and the thoughts immediately after about the ADA saving face, or guarding against litigation, also fluoride lobbyists, prove otherwise. If those two claims about everyone's intentions were true, then 12:52 wouldn't be an issue.
Everybody except the people who will chose making money over doing the due diligence just like the vaccine
I can’t believe a chemical element has lobbyists. The American ppl should maybe try getting some for themselves. 🧐.
They had great intentions to turn an industrial waste into a major profit, the health of the peasants is always at the bottom of the list when it comes to greed and profit.
People so easily forget that almost all of human history is filled with people doing horrible things to other people for money and power. They want to blindly ignore that openly seen fact, its all around you, we just want to pretend that everyone and every company has our best interests in mind when that is nearly the opposite every time.
My understanding is that some corporation had flouride as waste products so they lobbied to dump it into rivers
Like milk..
it is added on purpose in a measured way. read you local municipality's annual water report.
There was a video on YT a long time ago, about this British guy investigating fluoridation of the drinking water. At one point he calls Ralph Nader on who to talk to about this. I heard (not sure if it was in the video I am thinking of) that in the process of building atomic weapons, they had to use fluoride for some reason. When they just tried releasing the fluoride into the air, to get rid of it as waste, it fell on nearby farms and killed their crops (or was it their cows?). So they got this idea to convince dentists that it would be a good way to prevent cavities, so they started using it in water supplies. That's what I remember from this video. And oh wow, I just found it. Its called "The Fluoride Deception":
ua-cam.com/video/eBZRb-73tLc/v-deo.htmlsi=QMGppUGJEZV7FadV
It's a waste product from refining aluminum.
Post WW2 American Aluminum companies had fluoride waste they needed to dispose.
I bet Krystal HATED this one
Why? I don't get the reference?
@@ZeeWatcher1000 if the Government "experts" claim it to be good, Krystal is on board is the implication.
@@ZeeWatcher1000 oddly, it seems to be a partison issue. When RFK first brought up flouride earlier in 2024 I saw my liberal friends repost "trust the experts" type posts on the topic.
God, it must feel so embarassing that an online commenter occupies so much of your brain space, lmfao!
@@frenchpeacock If you think that being reminded of the existence and bias of an online commenter from the very channel you're watching requires a lot of brain space, I think that says a lot more about your own intellectual capabilities than OP's.
In other words, floss and brushing will be a much better way to handle tooth decay
No actually.
Check out what's in the toothpaste lol
But Americans don't like having to do stuff, it's why the govt also fortify our foods
And avoiding sugary drinks and snacks.
@@suitesthebandyes. But then you just put the Fluoride on your teeth and spit it out. Currently we do that AND drink fluoride water. I can see the issue ppl have w that. I doubt Fluoride is doing that much net harm, but it seems unnecessary.
So let me get this straight:
This woman comes on here and says that 1) there is minimal to no real benefit to fluorine in water based on other country decay rates. 2) there is strong indications that his causes serious health risks 3) the only reason they are not changing the policy is because they are vain and don't want to admit they are wrong and litigations.... and then this woman asked why this issue is controversial???
She really did answer her own question.
Just read some of the comments here. There are lots of people totally brainwashed on this topic.
I know a lot of dentists too and most of them are in total denial about this. Many will have a visceral reaction if you question flouride in water
Why are you calling her a woman so much? Why does that matter? She's an expert, and you're not. Weirdo.
She’s from Portland Oregon….. her behavior is as expected
Voluntary ignorance.
The road to hell is paved with good intentions
I'm driving the school bus 😂
We need more content like this from y'all
13:37 - What they fail to tell you is the amount of fluoride used. And I think ignoring that is misleading. Since no one else is willing to actually research it and instead resort to doom and gloom porn, here's what I found.
This is a large meta-analysis that found, on average, kids around the world exposed to higher fluoride levels tended to have slightly lower IQ scores than those exposed to lower levels. This is where Saagar will stop reading and say I told you so. However, the researchers used 74 studies of which they said 52 were at "high risk of bias". The data analyzed doesn’t (mostly) deal with anything like the conditions relating to fluoride amounts in the drinking water in America. Another caveat is the data presented is all observational - the researchers in those studies did not make the participants consume different amounts of fluoride, they just observed their exposure to fluoride and carried out IQ tests. The paper demonstrates that high levels of fluoride may negatively effect children's IQ - although minimally. "The dose makes the poison".
But let me be clear: This paper supports the use of fluoride in water supplies as directed by the HHS and EPA guidelines.
Listen, just let Breaking Points cook (their viewers brains)
Regardless we need to be looking at who has funded those studies and look at who would have benefited from the study results. Science and Research has a long history of being bought, sold and payed for.
Thank you. A couple more points, though. The effects are pretty small for some of the studies (~1 IQ points for each .5ppm fluoride). Some of the studies were more sophisticated and measured urinary fluoride of mothers and didn't just estimate intake based on reported behavior, so there may be something real there. However, I do wonder about confounding variables such as intellegence of mothers who choose bottled water or breastfeeding. And also, IQ scores for children are notoriously unreliable when projecting those into adulthood.
Fluoride can be BOTH…
- Good for your teeth
- Bad for your Brain/Hormones
I don’t understand why people can’t accept this
Same reason they're still having the nature vs nurture argument 🎉😂
It certainly can be, and more than that, there's the question of whether it should be in the water at all or administered in larger doses just to the teeth.
Almost all the evidence for fluoride benefit on teeth is through topical application not systemic (ingestion) - there's no good studies that show systemic benefit. So the question is how did people end up being forcefully covertly medicated systemically with fluoride if there is no good evidence?
So are we harming are children's brains forcefully without choice for a reason that doesn't exist? That's the issue. That and how did we get here and who benefited the most.
Tell that person to drink 2 gallons of tea everyday and to tell you when their kneck is swollen.
Not to mention much of the research done to support fluoride for teeth health has been funded by chemical companies who would have a waste product on their hand called fluoride if they couldn't sell it to municipalities to put in their water supply.@@WaspMedia3D
I told the lady cleaning my teeth that I didn't want her to put fluoride on my teeth. She asked me why not. I said I was under the impression that it is toxic.
She said, "Well you don't swallow it!"
I then told her it's in our water.
Topical fluoride is great for your teeth but I would never purposely drink it. Luckily I've never lived anywhere that fluoridates
do you get dental x rays, too?
@@holdyourground no
this never happened
@@cwag07 I know, right! What a crazy and unbelievable story! Nothing in that story adds up at all!
Please discuss where the fluoride comes from and what would be done with it if we didn't add it to our drinking water. If it truly is unnecessary and should be removed from the water supply who is behind the lobby and what do they stand to lose? This always seems to be left out of the conversations.
The only question for me at this point is where the hell can we find non-fluoridated water?
I'm going to need a second opinion here. Looking at countries that aren't fluoridated vs ones that are and comparing the number of cavities is wildly problematic. It ignores all other variables. What are the diets of these countries....what is their access to dental care? It doesn't count as a cavity if you never go to the dentist and just end up at the ER to get the tooth pulled. I'm for looking for better options.... topical has always been the better option but it's more expensive and less consistent. Poor people don't go to the dentist. If it can be applied at home for very cheap then let's do it. But there are a large number of negligent parents out there already and their kids will be the ones to suffer for it. The whole issue with fluoride is the concentration levels. It seems like every time someone points to a negative outcome with fluoride it's when a small number of people are exposed to way higher levels than recommended.
The root issues are our food supply and lack of access to health care. Putting fluoride in the water is a bandaid that helps industry deal with waste, not people who need better access to healthcare and whole foods
@Amanda-xx7sj yes I would agree but that doesn't mean we can't do both.. unless they can demonstrate actual harm that make the benefit not worth it. We fluoridate our water and clean up our food supply. Which one do you think is more likely? Both a freedom issue as well.. those who think the government shouldn't "force" fluoride in our diet are going to support the government telling you what you can and cannot eat?
It is applied at home for very cheap. She’s referring to fluoridated toothpaste. You have to go out of your way to get toothpaste without fluoride in it and it’s usually more expensive.
@@Mettle_DAD I'm sorry, but the "benefit" is imaginary. There is NO benefit to DRINKING fluoride. And poor people in America have plenty of access to TOPICAL fluoride. Just look at the toothpaste isle at your preferred grocery store and see what the price difference is between toothpaste with fluoride and toothpaste without fluoride (if you can find any). So unless you're talking about people who are so poor that they can't afford toothpaste (which would mean they don't have a home with access to fluoridated water either), there is no need to be concerned about access to fluoride. Your city can take a small portion of the money that it is paying to fluoridate the water and use it to buy toothpaste for all of the homeless shelters and that issue is solved. Also, I remember as a kid in school that 2 or 3 times a year we were given cups of fluoride to swish with during class. I'm assuming that they still do that, so that helps take care of the cases you mentioned about negligent parents.
Also, I'm completely consistent when it comes to the freedom issue. Government shouldn't force fluoride in our diet and people should be allowed to eat or drink whatever they want. Additionally, government shouldn't be subsidizing sugar and corn so much that it makes the most unhealthy foods the most affordable. They should instead be priced at fair market values so that foods that are actually healthy will be more readily available and economical.
And in case that makes you think that I'm some kind of entitled "free market" type who doesn't actually care about poor and middle class people, I can tell you that I live paycheck to paycheck and a good 2/3rds of my paycheck goes just to paying for housing and groceries. I also support policies like UBI, minting the coin, and nationalizing the Federal Reserve. These are all consistent with promoting freedom and removing the shackles that are placed on the American people by the government and the bankers and financial elites that control our government. The fluoridation of our water really is just another one of those shackles.
Exactly this. Her argument also reflects this. She's not saying flouride is inherently bad, she's saying there's a risk of overexposure and that we may need to dial down the floruidation in our water to counteract the risks. She also says that given proper tooth care flouridation may be moot, but that's unfortunately not how society operates.
Thanks for covering this
We have been distilling our water for years, as we watch others become dumb. So dumb they took the Fauchi lies.
So dumb they are functionally illiterate 😂😂😂
The fact that she said "everyone wants whats best for people" and then started talking about how powerful the "fluoride lobby" is tells you everything.
Yes, but we put fluoride in our water here in Ireland and we don't have fluoride lobbyist🤷♂️🤷♂️
i dunno. But its a little suspicious considering we hate socialized everything in this country yet we continue essentially needless mass doping of water. Fluoride treatment is better done at the dentist.
It tells you absolutely nothing...
@@od9694 isnt half of irelands economy just USA companies parking their money? Thats lobbying
@@od9694 don't you see? that's just HOW POWERFUL the fluoride lobbying effort is in your country! you don't even know it exists! you gotta watch out, "they" are coming after you, one glass of water at a time!
We must protect our precious bodily fluids!
The real problem is that ppl are "forced" to drink F water in their public supplied water.
If ppl want to add it to their water or purchase F water, that's fine. But do not force it on others.
No one is forcing you to take it . That would be the gov giving stuff for free in a capitalist country.
The Flouuride in water is from industrial waste that they do not want to stop dumping
Because there’s a bunch of it somebody can get it in a truck and dump it In the water system for a price
@@tspinnh Yes! If it's so important for teeth to add stuff to water then why don't we add vitamin d and magnesium both of which are required for healthy teeth.
That's like saying don't chlorinate water because some people don't want it. That's not how municipal systems work.
@Stratus41298 Chlorine kills bacteria in water and doesn't remain in water the way toxic fluoride does.
Fluoride is good in your toothpaste, bad in your drinking water.
Irrigate the crops with it , So you're still.
Getting plenty in the food supply , I distill all my water , .
Unfortunately drinking tea , The plant absorbs a lot of Floride
I had fluoride in my toothpaste most of my life and my teeth always had cavities. Adult life I use toothpaste without fluoride and I don’t have cavities. 🤔
@@23chngeLol. Ok so absent a lifetime of diet, health maintenance, etc, etc info... Blah blah blah blame fluoride. Totally 😂
@@23chnge your diet probably changed
Drinking fluoride is like drinking sunscreen
Just saying "Fluoride" is very broad when it comes to chemistry. Calcium Fluoride is naturally occurring. Sodium Fluoride, Stannous Fluoride and Sodium monofluorosphate is what's used in toothpaste. But, Sillicoflouride a byproduct of industrial phosphate fertilizer is what's put in drinking water. What a clever way to "filter" an industrial waste product through humans as a way to dispose of it.
And in the same vein what are the concentrations? and the impacts and bioaccumulation of all of those differ.
I've been screaming this for over 20 yrs! Thank you for a well worded statement!
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Why tf would they have to filter fluoride through humans? So smooth 🧠.
The effective chemical particle when it comes to fluorine is the ion. This is what does both the damage to humans and the damage to mouth bacteria. Look at where it is on the periodic table.
Why is no one talking about the fact that there are different types of fluoride?! The type that is placed in water is a side product from factories that are dumped into water bc they can’t get rid of it anywhere else!!!
Flouride is flouride
Bingo
Most European countries have chosen alternative fluoride delivery methods, such as:
- Fluoridated salt (available in Germany, France, and Switzerland)
- Fluoride supplements
- Fluoride in dental products (toothpaste, mouthwash)
All toothpaste with fluoride has a "do not swallow" warning.
to be fair- why would you swallow any toothpaste
that's a concentration thing, everything is toxic at high enough leveles
Different concentration.
Don't swallow any toothpaste at all
@@JasonLave if the concentration is significantly higher in toothpaste for efficacy, then it doesn't need to be in drinking water. Congrats, you've proven that it isn't needed.
Happy that I'm in France and they don't put this crap in the water here.
Ya the French decrease the youths IQ the old fashion way. by having them drink alcohol.
That's because you don't need to.
Floride occurs in a lot of sources of fresh water.
She forgot one. How long does it take for fluoride to leave the human pineal gland?
@@Lobsterwithinternet that's actually true. So adding it might not be that big of an issue then?
@@Lobsterwithinternet "need any" is patently absurd. The ideal amount is exactly 0 and you need none to thrive. There are many undesirable things in water in different parts of the world. That does not support the argument that municipal water should be intentionally poisoned higher levels of these chemicals.
10 years ago you were called a conspiracy theorist if you said fluoridated water caused lower IQ
This is what I agree with RFK on. If there are no benefits for it being in the water, why is it there?!?
There are benefits. She (and RFK) are peddling conspiracy theories with no good quality data to back it up. The benefits of fluoride aren't as high as previously thought, but people are using that to say there are no benefits at all, which is NOT what the research actually concluded.
Probably more harm than good.
To turn a waste product into a cash cow.
Even more critical nutrients, such as iodine and vitamin D, are still only added to foods (salt and milk) that you can choose to buy with or without the additive, and you can choose how much to ingest. You can't choose your tap water, and nor can you really control how much you ingest given water is used to wash everything.
great discussion, no gaslighting, no bias, no bullsh*t
I lost IQ points reading the comment section...derp
Conspiracy brain as far as the eye can see
@@ChrisMissal The conspiratorial worldview is closer to the truth than the default institution-trusting view. It really is.
@@ChrisMissalyou believe everything your told instead of actually looking into stuff. That’s on you for being blind
@@PotThoughts "you're" - and you're insinuating you're smarter than everyone else. the irony could bend space time.
@@purposefully.verbose na I’m actually pretty fucking dumb so it baffles me that so many people are dumber than me. Maybe I don’t think I’m as smart as I really am idk. I’m pretty humble that I’m not above anyone. You bleed the same way I bleed.
the moment you have very powerful lobby groups backing it, you should be concerned.
The floride they use in water isn't the natural version. It's a industrial by product.
Yep! Thanks American government! Always looking out for us!
Perhaps BI product May explain an explosion in queers
lol. Wtf. Fluoride is an element. It’s just what it is unless it has something else in it. Doesn’t matter the source.
If something is toxic, it's toxic no matter if its natural or not. I hate that logic that natural equals safe. With that reasoning, lead is safe because it's naturally occuring in nature .......
@@MiguelGarcia-vj7oo fr, lots of morons in the comments
I am so happy this is FINALLY being taken more seriously. Thank you for covering this. I'm thankful I grew up in and live in an area that does not fluoridate- Any time I've ever gone somewhere else and had fluoridated water I've gotten debilitating migraines. It has seriously restricted where I am able to live.
... I find it hard to believe that flouride is causing your issue. There are so many factors at play that could cause migraines while traveling.
@Stratus41298
Only happens when I drink the water. When bring my own water, I'm fine. It happens when not traveling, even the next town over at the doctor if I drink the fluoridated water within ten minutes it hits me. Happens directly after drinking any fluoridated water. Repeatedly, every time.
As a former chemist, fluoride is a toxic industrial waste byproduct that costs more to dispose of than just dumping it into dental products. Same thing for gluten, an industrial waste byproduct of over processing wheat. Manufacturing figured out they can make money off of both by selling them to food manufactures and adding them to everything and we are paying the price.
LOL
Same thing happening with the sludge from wastewater treatment/bio-digesters being sold to farmers as "fertilizer" that ended up contaminating the land with PFAS etc😊
Ser gluten is naturally in all wheat products
What?
@ It's called repurposing and recycling. I would hope that the notion of recycling and efficient use of byproducts is not one we would dismiss on principle. PFAS and microplastics are a major issue for the use of sewage sludge as fertilizer, but that doesn't mean it was a bad idea from the beginning. None of this is an indictment of the use of fluoride, the origin of which is immaterial to the merits of its use in water supplies.
I don’t want things added to my water without my consent. If I decide that fluoride is good for me to consume then I will consume fluoride. Please nanny government don’t try to fix me. Let me fix myself.
It IS added with your consent though. You elected officials to use modern science to develop regulations surrounding water treatment. That's how it works.
Fluoride in your drinking water is "totally safe and totally effective." hmmm where have we heard that line before???
Not one mention about how fluoride calcifies your pineal gland
I’m from CO. With natural fluoride in the water. I’ve been drinking the sink water and water from the hoses growing up. My teeth are strong, I’m healthy, active, and have never had major health problems.
Google the term anecdote.
Just because you haven’t noticed an impact on your health, doesnt mean you haven’t experienced one. Noticing your IQ decreasing is probably impossible, unless you’re frequently tested, or unless it happens rapidly. Also, assuming you are totally fine, it doesn’t mean we should continue to pump an industrial byproduct (which is where most of America gets its fluoride) into most people’s water. Even if there’s a less than 1% chance it might decrease my mental faculties, I’d feel uncomfortable putting it in my body. Leave it to American to tarnish the one healthy thing we had left ffs
Lol it causes a drop in IQ, glad you are healthy and have strong teeth though.
@@jludo😂😂😂😂😂😂 that is hilarious.
Do you brush your teeth?
The dentist was a great guest! Very informative. Ty!
If you wanted to get it to the target audience with poor dental health, you wouldn't put it in water. You would put it in Mountain Dew.
wow an actually good BP segment
"Reveals truth" sets off alarm bells lol
It's a good thing i watched this video. Now i have a reminder that "the truth" in video titles means "this particular person's understanding"
I get that it wouldnt be as catchy, but this is now how i will translate that.
Not true, There have been mummies found with cavities.
Recent studies... haha, they've literally known this since the beginning. Love how late to the show y'all are.
I am thankful that RFKJr and others are finally talking about our health!
Sure, but people are lazy in this country, and like eating... especially sweets... so good luck.
People don't take care of their teeth... plain and simple.
Alex Jones said this 2 decades ago
Probably longer 😂
He said it turns you gay 😂😂😂😂
Alex Jones parrots things other people say..
Most times with zero research done into it
HIs job is to sensationalize, not "report"
The man has no original thoughts whatsoever
(the same can be said for the MAJORITY of people doing this in all fairness.. in his case, it's just worse how much he talks about things without researching)
@@BDnevernind only frogs though 🤣🤣
@@Dennis-xj8nh but he was implying more you know it 😅
Alex Jones told us this 30 years ago
Alex says a lot of dumb things
Doesn't mean he can't be right
@ probably vs possibly 😂
Also ChatGPT: Here is a ranked list of countries by the percentage of their population receiving fluoridated water (artificially or naturally):
1. Singapore: 100%
2. Australia: ~90%
3. United States: ~73%
4. Republic of Ireland: ~70%
5. New Zealand: ~62%
6. Malaysia: High coverage in urban areas (exact percentage varies)
7. Canada: ~39%
8. United Kingdom (England): ~10-11%
Many other OECD countries (e.g., most of Europe, Japan, and South Korea) have little to no fluoridation of water and are thus excluded from this ranking.
chat gpt? wow. you're relying on an LLM with a known history of hallucinating data, and you're proud of it. ok then. and clearly nobody in singapore has bad teeth. :|
I hate when people act like we better be careful because we have no idea what will happen. Have you ever heard of EUROPE? We know exactly what will happen. Educate yourselves and let's get it out of the water right now.
Can we take Europe's healthcare standard then too?
@@cdsaylor2 I hope so. Maybe we can get our average life expectancy caught up to theirs too.
Exactly Pluse if you want floride buy fluoridated toothpaste don't make the rest of us pay to put it in our water supply.
@@cdsaylor2Sure! Was that supposed to be a gotcha? 😂
@@spindragon Yes we don't have to ban it. Just take it out of the water. Europe already did the large scale tests to tell us it isn't needed in water.
I'm skeptical of fluoride in water too, but I'm curious to know if those other countries have good rates because they also have healthcare that evens it out with our fluoride??
That’s certainly a factor.
You’re right to be skeptical of fluoride in the water. It has almost no benefit and negatively affects young children. It’s mostly harmless for most adults (at least at the levels it’s supposed to be at) and is good in toothpaste
No. Decay rates have gone down in both, countries that fluoridate and those that don't.
I always appreciate James Li’s deep dives. He is the best of Breaking Points. I only stay subbed for him.
In the 1980's I was a kid in elementary school, and we would have once a week a fluoride mouthwash break. The school nurse would come around with trays of fluoride mouthwash, we wouldn't ingest it, just normal swishing and then spit it out. They did stop doing this, not sure if it was because they started putting it in the water, or if it got too expensive.
Hell yeah! I remember this! 😂
When I was a real young in the 80s & early 90s. Don't know when they discontinued it.
There was probably already fluoride in the water. I had this too and it was a supplement.
Damn, I forgot all about doing this!
Me too, I totally forgot about that!
So for the people that did this, how are your teeth?
@14:25 I wish everyone had good intentions!
BP is smashing their credibility by giving James Li a platform. He had the one lady on with the 432 Hz shit, absolutely killed me
Are you kidding? Idk about 432Hz (I Googled 'James Li 432Hz' but none of his videos came up?), but James Li has done some amazing investigations on very third-rail topics the elites don't want talked about! Whistleblowers, corporate shenanigans, lobbyist groups, etc. He's doing a critical journalistic service better than the mainstream media outlets.
link to that video. there are no search results that i can find with it. I suspect it doesn't exist, or you misconstrued it.
You can see that this video presents top tier research evidence, including a Cochrane review and meta-analysis of all relevant peer reviewed articles about the efficacy of fluoridation. A Cochrane review is gold standard science.
What credibility?
@@lawrencehubbell9397 The Cochrane review found that fluoride reduced cavities, just less than they used to because of all the other advances in dental care that have happened since it was introduced. It did not recommend stopping fluoridation, nor did it say that there were serious health concerns with it. Just that the modern, smaller benefit needs to be factored in. That's literally it. There's no good evidence of health concerns in the amounts recommended for drinking water.
Additionally the small benefit of fluoridation does not take into account how unequal the benefits are. It's not a quarter of a tooth per kid, it's likely little to no difference for rich people who have the time, money and energy to do whatever they need to protect their teeth, and a huge difference for poorer people who don't.
In my early 20s I became worried about fluoride in the water and switched to almost entirely drinking purified water. I also started using non fluoridated toothpaste. At some point a few years down the road it felt to my uneducated sense of my tooth health that there was some growing wear and decay at the base of my teeth, so I switched back to fluoridated toothpaste.
I'm in my 50s now and still drinking purified water and using fluoridated toothpaste. I'm kind of wondering if I'd be a good case study?
Good stuff, even if it had only benefits, it should still not be in the drinking water. You can get al the benefits from tooth paste easily.
and if it occurs naturally would you have it removed?
@johnmccracken3473 you have an option of what toothpaste you buy
You don't have an option of what water comes out of your tap
If this were true then dentists would not administer topical fluoride to patients at regular intervals
How in the hell can they link fluoride to lower IQ and exclude other factors like diet, lack of exercise, family history, etc.
What makes you think they don't control for those other factors?
This is a good question. An easy confound might be which populations live in areas with fluoride in their water and which don't. Most of the scales used to measure intelligence are tested on, and most importantly, normed on American populations. Which would immediately make comparing American IQ scores to other populations a problem.
@@jludo you can’t control for all factors unless you have them imprisoned and control their diet and for how long is considered adequate time in this controlled environment?
Anything can become toxic given the correct dose and she makes a great point about looking at other sources of fluoride intake. But it’s pure speculation to suggest drinking the tap water lowers IQ without considering external factors and the amount of fluoride consumed.
@@jludo You can't. Unless you take away peoples' human rights.
@vg1400 you can mix the populations you compare to minimize externalities. Not perfect but you can get a good idea if your study is big enough. Double blind, randomized, placebo controlled aren't the only possible studies.
This is the first time ive seen the topic of flouride discussed not immediately trying to sell their special expensive filter, water, or supplements.
Another issue not discussed and the most important for me is that fluoride is believed to cause plaque build up in the pineal gland. Though we know precious little about the pineal gland it is connected with sleep and becomes active during the most traumatic events in life like birth and death. Whatever the pineal gland is... "the seed of the soul" or a simple valve that regulates sleep I try hard not to mess with it.
It Produces 5omdmt Known as the god particle , It's actually controlled substance , The Receptors that all the hallucinate drugs dock with , Is four secretions from the penal glan .
The government knows what it is and they did this on purpose , It also calcifies The arteries , Causing most of the heart disease Mixed with oxygenated oils , The processed foods are full of them ..
Looking for this
As much as I’m against flouride in the water I’m skeptical of this claim. I’m not aware of good data on this but perhaps it’s possible.
There’s already a lot of good data that it’s harmful for children. That should be enough to take it out
Thanks for this Break Points! Good reporting. I was recently talking about this with someone and realized I needed to do more research and BOOM y'all do some great reporting that gives me a legit study outline. Thanks!
Forget fluoride in the water,
What's in the water in Florida?
salt or gators
Cocaine and semen
Fluoride is what's in their water.
That's why it's pronounced Fluorida
@ Florida man fight Fluoride Gators - Tonight on Fox News!
Crack
This was very educational, thank you for having her.
You just know this was some shit that Saagar greenlit.
BP really having on the 10th dentist exclusively lol
Thanks Saagar! Great video
James Li…literally the only guy I ever watch BP for now.
RFK Jr said exactly the same thing.
I work for a major water utility in New England. I’ve had a concern with fluoride for many years, I’ve brought it up to many of the higher ups. Many of them have no idea why we add it to the water, some make the dental health claim. When I mention forced medication and health risks I get eye rolls and they tell me to go to the health department and file a complaint. I don’t understand it, it’s a win-win for the company because we save money on buying fluoride and all the safety around handling such a hazardous chemical yet no one wants to make the change or challenge it.
Wait! What? 3:50-4:00. We are one of the last, but 97% of westernized countries do not? And this has an edit/cut in it???
I was confused with that statement. I love breaking points Krystal and Saagar are great but this segment makes me question if they are atleast reviewing some of the people they have on. Plus as the point has been made animals do get cavities. We would brush our dogs teeth all the time and even our vets stated their teeth were not so cavity prone.
Which bit is confusing here? Most countries don't do it
@@ThemataSo of the 3% that do we were the last?
I think she meant we’re the last ppl left doing it
I would assume she means: animals in their natural habitat sans humans have extremely low cavity rates.
Of course animals get lots of cavities now as they eat crap processed food we feed them and live in human environments with all the human problems that comes with.
Are we ignoring the risks or are we being oblivious to the fact that we are being poisoned?
Why did you bring a dentist on here instead of a chemist or a human biologist you brought a dentist as your expert in floride??
5:54 She presented legit gold standard science in the Cochrane review reporting on about fluoride's effect on dental cavities, her field of specialty. A neurologist might have given some insight or credence on the relationship with child IQ, but the evidence shown seemed plain enough for the purpose of the video.
You seem like the kinda person where if they brought on a biologist you'd ask why they didn't bring on a dentist who deals with fluoride daily
Because fluoridating the water is a dental treatment haha please tell me it’s not that difficult to understand. If we’re were discussing chemotherapy I’d want a cancer doc on not a chemist
When my kids were small we had well water. My wife wanted to get fluoride supplements and sent me to the pharmacy. The pharmacist asked me if we had a prescription, and no, we didn't. Are they having cavity issues? No they were not. "Then why would you give your kids fluoride?" I didn't have a good answer other than we had always been told it helped tooth enamel. The pharmacist proceeded to inform me (imagine that) of all the potential downsides of fluoridation without a prescription. I don't remember all of them but they weren't minor.
This lead me to my current position in fluoride in water. For some people it will be so miniscule compared to what they may need that it's not worth spending money on. For others, it WILL have detrimental effects and should be stopped immediately or sooner.
Does this mean RJK Jr isn’t crazy?
Nope, he’s not. He’s right about a lot of things. Most people just refuse to listen to the nuance of the scientific studies that challenge their previously held beliefs - often which are informed by marketing campaigns and not science.
Correct
No, this woman is as well. She's making patently and demonstrably false claims throughout this video. Comparing it to lead poisoning is so absurd, I can't even take it as an intellectual error. This is either on purpose, or total incompetency and she must have bribed her way to her degrees.
@@d_dave7200 She literally referenced a JAMA study, which is a peer-reviewed journal, to support that claim. Did you miss that or are you scientifically illiterate?
@ I'm a scientist. I read the JAMA meta-analysis. Even at face value the impact of IQ was small, and not comparable to lead.
Nevertheless, there are serious questions about that meta-analysis. The problem with meta-analyses in general is that it's a bit of a garbage-in, garbage-out situation. They're only as good as the data you insert into the statistical analysis. If the data has quality RCTs with modern methodologies, and no bias or doctored results, then meta-analyses can be amazing and the gold-standard. But if you use poor quality studies you can end up with issues.
The meta-analysis found that so many of the studies included were biased and targeting particular outcomes, that they had to introduce an entire methodology to rate that bias to try to adjust for it. Little to none of the key research was done in the US or western Europe either, where levels of fluoride are more carefully controlled to avoid over-exposure, and even among those studies the meta-analysis believed were valid, there are real questions about their quality and whether the data is legitimate. There also questions about the methods and whether it's a valid approach at all.
Some criticisms from others, starting with the person who led the study:
"Kyla Taylor, a health scientist at the National Institute of Environmental Science who led the study, said that the meta-analysis “does not address the benefits of water fluoridation and was not designed to address the broader public health implications of water fluoridation in the United States. The meta-analysis is an important contribution for understanding the safe and effective use of fluoride and may inform future risk-benefit assessments of the use of fluoride in children’s oral health.”
“These researchers now have many publications trying, somehow, to legitimize spot urine as a valid measure of fluoride exposure, when it is not. Using spot urine samples to establish causation between fluoridation exposure and harm to IQ is ridiculous,” said Jennifer Meyer, a professor of population health at the University of Alaska Anchorage."
“People think that the point of systematic reviews is to be objective and I don’t think that’s totally true. I think the point of it is to be transparent, because there’s often subjective decisions that are made about whether you are up- or downgrading risk of bias just by having laid out a protocol for how to do that,” Klatt said.
Other meta-analyses and systemic reviews on fluoride and IQ have come to different conclusions. One from 2023, for example, found “fluoride exposure relevant to community water fluoridation is not associated with lower IQ scores in children.” Another from 2021 found an “inverse association between fluoride exposure and IQ was particularly strong in the studies at high risk of bias, while no adverse effect emerged in the only study judged at low risk of bias.”
“There’s no perfect study. These meta-analyses help us get a picture from multiple [studies],” said Mark Moss, a dentist and epidemiologist who was an author on the 2023 meta-analysis. He said the new JAMA Pediatrics study “looks bad from afar. But we go back to this generalizability issue, and that those are not really high-quality studies.”
15:46 yeah we make our own health issues with the food, lining those companies pockets, and then we try to fix it with a bunch of meds, lining those companies pockets as well
If you don't eat or drink sugar and other carbohydrates you won't need the fluoride to prevent tooth decay.
Most people do though
I'd add carbonation to that list as it is somewhat acidic and can weaken the teeth for short periods. If you're drinking diet soda all day and doing so when eating, you might as well be drinking soda with sugar in it.
I personally wonder if the concentration of fluoride in the water is really sufficient to make much of a difference compared with the amount of products that are available to provide a more targeted application.
I'm not particularly on the side of removing it from the water without a stronger basis for doing so, but I do think that it arguably makes more sense to focus on addressing the issue of people not having proper access to more targeted applications and dental care before really considering removing it from the water supply.
Sugar is in practically every product you consume. A strict diet of meat and vegetables with strictly water are the only way
How would someone avoid eating carbohydrates
I was a complete sugar addict as a child. I spent the first 10 years of my career as a pastry chef and ate more sugar. Eventually, I stopped eating quite as much sugar, but my teeth have always been an excellent condition. So this leads me to believe this theory about eating sugar and tooth decay to be somewhat incorrect
James Li is the best
Dose makes the poison. It literally is that simple
Yes, flouride was introduced to "prevent cavities," but the underlying reason it was introduced was to mitigate radiation poisoning.
It's not for your health. It's for profit
Yep. It's to peddle the neurotoxin petroleum byproducts hydrofluorosilicic acid and sodium fluorosilicate for human consumption.
you're looking at it through an American lens. The rest of the world has no profit motive in their healthcare.
They don't make much money on it so it has to be dune for some other reason.
@@kjell744 it saves them money on disposal. It's a waste byproduct.
@kjell744 Getting municipalities to dispose the petroleum industries useless neurotoxin byproducts (hydrofluorosilicic acid and sodium fluorosilicate, not 'fluoride') into the water supply, & getting the taxpayers to pay for it is hardly 'not much money'.
Most European countries have chosen alternative fluoride delivery methods, such as:
- Fluoridated salt (available in Germany, France, and Switzerland)
- Fluoride supplements
- Fluoride in dental products (toothpaste, mouthwash)
That’s why we need Medicare for all so that everyone can afford to go to the dentist. Most people and kids do not have the luxury of getting consistent reliable dental care. Fluoride in water doesn’t seem to be the solution but Universal Healthcare is the solution.
Traditional Medicare doesn't cover preventative dental care. But Medicaid and programs like CHIP do. I think we need to understand how limited Medicare coverage is before advocating for everyone to have it. I understand it's used as a catch-all term, but it makes me nervous.
Krystal and Kyle gonna be big mad
All the countries that don't add fluoride have healthcare coverage (and dental coverage in Europe).
People were talking about this for years, and everyone labeled us as crazy conspiracy theorists.
Again ... ... processed food. Harder and harder to avoid this without growing your own food or directly from the farmer.
What study will tie the information that fluoride reduces iq on the same level in lead and then also therfore shows that an unflouranted country like Japan has that equivalent iq jump over a fluoride country like the USA? As someone carrying expertise in this, you would think she would have this dialed.