What people are wanting to see is a comparison between the standard car and the circuit pack, but both with PS4S tyres on. It's a long overdue comparison.
Totally agree! Just get both cars and simply swap the wheels over for simplicity and ALSO compare them with esc, both, on and off please and a road and track comparison. From watching likely every review out there lol, I am highly confident that the biggest difference are the tyres only for the road and the lsd's are only really relevant for track usage and when esc is disabled. Something the majority of buyers only using it on the road won't be even turning off! The base, convenience pack and Circuit pack names is likely the clue.
One French review had both shodding ps4s's. That was on a track and all about power drifting and with esc off! Yes of course the circuit pack car is better for that, as it's name suggests! Not what many are querying however. For me, if they didn't have the Convenience pack available in uk, I'd have walked. Test drove Circuit pack 3 times. It's circuit pack extras are irrelevant for my needs and wants as a daily road car, bar better tyres, and lack of convenience pack extras/comforts, ruins it for me, again, as a daily. People have different wants and needs in life. There's NO "only one to get" answer. YES, for track enthusiasts it's clearly circuit pack but, personally, I don't think that's particularly track oriented compared to many more fun rwd cars that are designed to oversteer and drift naturally, without power drifting, which forgetting the cost of tyres, is likely going to be putting huge strains on numerous components. Likely the reason for it's ridiculously short service intervals! I'm sure the millionaires won't be particularly bothered but the majority of owners likely will.
@@mattyoz0 Yes, if driving it regularly on a track I agree. Also believe the longlife service intervals like you mentioned, were mainly designed for motorway miles sales company cars. As mine will be a daily road car, for fun, I'd have rathered the yearly/ 10000 miles more conventional intervals whilst using the best oil and various parts. I checked the servicing pre ordering and accepted it. I must say, toyota weren't particularly on the ball, giving me various interval quotes from sales, servicing and their HQ! Pretty poor. One of the issues with very new cars unfortunately. If there'd been anything else that's new, manual, awd, light small etc etc that compared for my needs and wants I'd have maybe bought elsewhere
Has anyone noticed that the BBS wheels have Made in Japan stamped on them ? This is a bargain if all the parts are the same. Their quality control is second to no one.
We can’t wait for our two to arrive!! Rallye a must if you enjoy driving or live in a regional area!! Undulating roads ...b roads etc.. make the forged wheels and Torsten diffs shine..who cares about track driving?? It’s all about driving the best possible Toyota on the road
The only problem of these forged wheels is, that when you ruin them only one costs 3020 EURO!!!! What a stupid way of pricing spare parts ax it would mean, that 1/3 of the price of the car derives only from the wheels.
Hi Tom. I'd like to get your opinion re the following please: Few have truly explained at what point the circuit's 2 lsd's take over. Yes, I've heard the 9 or 10 tenths explanation and that the base car's dunlop sp sport maxx 050's are it's main achilles heal! But isn't it also, only, with esc off- expert mode or fully, in your experience?!! All the reviews around the world show the open diffs car to ONLY spin up an unloaded wheel when esc is turned off! Certainly the time to have lsd's, especially for trackday users and power sliding. I tested the circuit pack in uk last December in cold 2-5°C damp and greasy road conditions. No base cars to compare. Couldn't feel the lsd's activating however. 3 very "spirited" 45 minutes test drives, predominantly in track mode. I think the sophisticated and constantly variable awd clutch coupling torque distribution, electronics and ps4s's did all the work. Some have commented that the "reactive" torsen lsd's when activating are audible also? Drove it, only, with esc on, as I will be driving mine when it arrives, unless it snows! My i30N performance pack, now running michelin ps4s's, pz4's were pants in the wet lol, and esc in normal or sport (Not off) still utilises its front e-diff lsd in every drive and can be felt! Perhaps because it's electronically activated and therefore proactive rather than reactive! Two Italian reviewers commented that you can't tell the difference between the GR open diffs and the lsd's car until disabling the esc, due to the car's electronics being a little intrusive, disliking the fact that in order to get the lsd's benefit, you needed to turn off esc! I'm having a GR for the road only and therefore ordered the uk base model but with the Convenience pack to gain the extra comforts that you already get in the Australian base car, plus parking sensors front and rear. Those along with blind spot monitor and rear cross traffic alert and emergency braking will offset its utterly awful rear back and quarters visibility and make it a more pleasurable daily! Personally prefer the standard wheels and grey callipers, suspension will be slightly more road biased and will simply be putting better tyres on it. Ps4s's are good but more likely going to get either Goodyear f1 supersport for its better steering feel/ wet grip or the very latest Bridgestone potenza SPORT, (early reviews appear incredible), that tyrereviews will be testing/comparing with numerous other uuhp brands later this month 😉. Thank you. James
Preference ? The lolz ? Resaleability, Dick measuring in the pub ? I want to try power sliding my kids to school personally so ive spec'd it lol......required ? probs not.....spec'd anyway?, you betcha lol
@@James-RJM lol you've clearly seen me driving ....jokes aside my long term plan for the car is weekend track toy but I'll use as a daily for the initial 3 years so I wont benefit from the circuit pack really till it becomes the weekend toy
If you're already spending $50k+ on a GR Yaris, the extra $5k is worth it in my opinion. Also, why not make comparisons to something closer like an STi instead of "hot" hatches.
@@trcs3079 I'm not sure why Toyota Australia is charging you that much, but my Rallye edition cost me $58,735 full driveaway in Queensland. Maybe you are looking at what the scalpers are selling them for. Compared to an STi I think it's very reasonable IMO.
@@carlosgj1308 It was definitely a bargain if you were fast enough to order one. Toyota Australia must have lost a lot of money on that PR exercise. Even at the regular price, we are still cheaper than the UK.
No one ever seems to talk about the diffs in the standard car is it cos its really not worth mentioning what exaxtly is different as there must be quality longevity questions?
I ordered mine last year and only got it last week and could only get a Rallye (not complaining) mines number 172, so the 200 of them haven't even been made yet . I'm still trying to figure out how to turn the lady off that tells me I go over 1km the speed limit
A great deal of younger buyers with automatic only licences may want a dual clutch auto and would be quicker and likely slightly more economical but like the ST Fiesta I’d only want a manual
@@malcolmscott4150 👍 Plenty of paddle years ahead of us mate. I'm sooooo thankful that I learnt to drive with a stick manual personally. Let those younger drivers import the Japanese RS version, fwd 1.5 "cvt" lol.... Fingers crossed they never sell it in the uk😆
Because it’s an easier sell to the the better half, kinda like being neutered but still being left with somewhat of a set of balls. Better some than a 1.5 cvt...
The CircuitPack/Rallye is worth it simply for the LSDs. In the UK the price difference was £3500 making the additional wheels, LSDs and suspension tweaks an utter bargain. If you want to buy CircuitPack/Rallye wheels from Toyota, they're £3500 for a set. Really puts into perspective how much of a bargain the CircuitPack/Rallye is compared to the base model car.
@@jbu89gb yes, absolutely! I also think itl hold its appeal and value stronger over time. The interior bits on the convienence pack are just gimmicky - the whole car is inconvenient in reality 🤣. Buying a car like this its all about the driving so the CP is the only way to go
@@relentlesspursuit6894 Yes agreed, I have a Circuit Pack, but I must admit I would have liked the JBL and heated seats and wheel. Why the UK did not get heated parts but Australia did is something that makes no sense at all! Super hot country - heated wheel/seats Cold country - no heated wheel/seats.
@@jbu89gb speaker upgrades will soon be available for the GR which will help. I'm sure most buyers would of gone for both packs if an option but as that wasnt possible its CP all the way 😎
Equivalent in the UK is called circuit pack (although we don't get heated seats) but price differece is even less, so very few non circuit packs have been sold over here. Mine is landing in 6 weeks or so and am looking forward to getting her run in and then deciding if I'm going to fettle her. Will be getting some mudflaps on though, as those wide hips look like stone chip magnets!
Most Japanese performance cars have 4 seats. It’s like being able to transport 4 people comfortably or 5 people with 3 in discomfort, they choose comfort. The point of a hot hatch isn’t to carry people around though, it’s a fun daily car and I may even take my rear seats out.
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I NEVER EVER thought I'd say this...but I want a yaris 🤣
same 🤣
What people are wanting to see is a comparison between the standard car and the circuit pack, but both with PS4S tyres on. It's a long overdue comparison.
Totally agree! Just get both cars and simply swap the wheels over for simplicity and ALSO compare them with esc, both, on and off please and a road and track comparison.
From watching likely every review out there lol, I am highly confident that the biggest difference are the tyres only for the road and the lsd's are only really relevant for track usage and when esc is disabled. Something the majority of buyers only using it on the road won't be even turning off!
The base, convenience pack and Circuit pack names is likely the clue.
One French review had both shodding ps4s's. That was on a track and all about power drifting and with esc off!
Yes of course the circuit pack car is better for that, as it's name suggests!
Not what many are querying however.
For me, if they didn't have the Convenience pack available in uk, I'd have walked. Test drove Circuit pack 3 times. It's circuit pack extras are irrelevant for my needs and wants as a daily road car, bar better tyres, and lack of convenience pack extras/comforts, ruins it for me, again, as a daily.
People have different wants and needs in life. There's NO "only one to get" answer.
YES, for track enthusiasts it's clearly circuit pack but, personally, I don't think that's particularly track oriented compared to many more fun rwd cars that are designed to oversteer and drift naturally, without power drifting, which forgetting the cost of tyres, is likely going to be putting huge strains on numerous components. Likely the reason for it's ridiculously short service intervals!
I'm sure the millionaires won't be particularly bothered but the majority of owners likely will.
@@mattyoz0 Yes, if driving it regularly on a track I agree. Also believe the longlife service intervals like you mentioned, were mainly designed for motorway miles sales company cars.
As mine will be a daily road car, for fun, I'd have rathered the yearly/ 10000 miles more conventional intervals whilst using the best oil and various parts.
I checked the servicing pre ordering and accepted it.
I must say, toyota weren't particularly on the ball, giving me various interval quotes from sales, servicing and their HQ! Pretty poor.
One of the issues with very new cars unfortunately.
If there'd been anything else that's new, manual, awd, light small etc etc that compared for my needs and wants I'd have maybe bought elsewhere
My hot hatch hooning days are way passed, but still excited to see Toyota is fun to drive now.
Disagree. The seats are not too high. They are perfect. Easier to spot and avoid potholes. Perfect. Love it!
For the street - those PS4S Tyres are doing most of the differentiating work between the GR and Rallye.
Yes it would be great to see the difference between this and the stock one with PS4S!
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I am coming after your job :-). Great review. Going to be too expensive here in NZ but would be so much fun.
Saving up right now man 💰
Has anyone noticed that the BBS wheels have Made in Japan stamped on them ?
This is a bargain if all the parts are the same.
Their quality control is second to no one.
We can’t wait for our two to arrive!! Rallye a must if you enjoy driving or live in a regional area!! Undulating roads ...b roads etc.. make the forged wheels and Torsten diffs shine..who cares about track driving?? It’s all about driving the best possible Toyota on the road
Is it the Frosty White Color your driving in this video For Australian Customers?
I couldn't pick where you fimed this.
Looks like mix of racetrack and main road
The racetracks in this video are bryant park in victoria and sydney motorsport park.
You've just gotta get this one! The forged wheels alone are so cool!
The only problem of these forged wheels is, that when you ruin them only one costs 3020 EURO!!!! What a stupid way of pricing spare parts ax it would mean, that 1/3 of the price of the car derives only from the wheels.
Woo can’t wait for mine
Are you using it on the track?
Are the 2 LSDs audiable? Can you hear them in action?
Hi Tom. I'd like to get your opinion re the following please:
Few have truly explained at what point the circuit's 2 lsd's take over. Yes, I've heard the 9 or 10 tenths explanation and that the base car's dunlop sp sport maxx 050's are it's main achilles heal! But isn't it also, only, with esc off- expert mode or fully, in your experience?!!
All the reviews around the world show the open diffs car to ONLY spin up an unloaded wheel when esc is turned off! Certainly the time to have lsd's, especially for trackday users and power sliding.
I tested the circuit pack in uk last December in cold 2-5°C damp and greasy road conditions. No base cars to compare. Couldn't feel the lsd's activating however. 3 very "spirited" 45 minutes test drives, predominantly in track mode. I think the sophisticated and constantly variable awd clutch coupling torque distribution, electronics and ps4s's did all the work. Some have commented that the "reactive" torsen lsd's when activating are audible also? Drove it, only, with esc on, as I will be driving mine when it arrives, unless it snows!
My i30N performance pack, now running michelin ps4s's, pz4's were pants in the wet lol, and esc in normal or sport (Not off) still utilises its front e-diff lsd in every drive and can be felt! Perhaps because it's electronically activated and therefore proactive rather than reactive!
Two Italian reviewers commented that you can't tell the difference between the GR open diffs and the lsd's car until disabling the esc, due to the car's electronics being a little intrusive, disliking the fact that in order to get the lsd's benefit, you needed to turn off esc!
I'm having a GR for the road only and therefore ordered the uk base model but with the Convenience pack to gain the extra comforts that you already get in the Australian base car, plus parking sensors front and rear. Those along with blind spot monitor and rear cross traffic alert and emergency braking will offset its utterly awful rear back and quarters visibility and make it a more pleasurable daily!
Personally prefer the standard wheels and grey callipers, suspension will be slightly more road biased and will simply be putting better tyres on it. Ps4s's are good but more likely going to get either Goodyear f1 supersport for its better steering feel/ wet grip or the very latest Bridgestone potenza SPORT, (early reviews appear incredible), that tyrereviews will be testing/comparing with numerous other uuhp brands later this month 😉. Thank you.
James
Hi James.
Yes I'm Happy with base GR. Just needs better Tyres like the review said.
@@Dave-gl6jb 🖐 Hope you're keeping well mate
Preference ? The lolz ? Resaleability, Dick measuring in the pub ? I want to try power sliding my kids to school personally so ive spec'd it lol......required ? probs not.....spec'd anyway?, you betcha lol
@@rtorbs 😉 That school drive would be amusing to watch
@@James-RJM lol you've clearly seen me driving ....jokes aside my long term plan for the car is weekend track toy but I'll use as a daily for the initial 3 years so I wont benefit from the circuit pack really till it becomes the weekend toy
Excellent presentation
If you're already spending $50k+ on a GR Yaris, the extra $5k is worth it in my opinion. Also, why not make comparisons to something closer like an STi instead of "hot" hatches.
Being Australia, the yaris GR is roughly 55,000-58,000AUD. The GR rallye edition is an extra 10,000, quite significant if you ask me.
@@trcs3079 I'm not sure why Toyota Australia is charging you that much, but my Rallye edition cost me $58,735 full driveaway in Queensland. Maybe you are looking at what the scalpers are selling them for. Compared to an STi I think it's very reasonable IMO.
@@trcs3079 not true. I’m getting a rallye for sub 60k and I ordered last week
For 6k difference I rather get rally but when it first come out for 40k that was a bargain👍🏼
@@carlosgj1308 It was definitely a bargain if you were fast enough to order one. Toyota Australia must have lost a lot of money on that PR exercise. Even at the regular price, we are still cheaper than the UK.
No one ever seems to talk about the diffs in the standard car is it cos its really not worth mentioning what exaxtly is different as there must be quality longevity questions?
Hi-tech racing mechanicals, for the masses!!!! well done to Toyota for releasing the Circuit Pack Rallye model in Australia!!
Is there a reason none of the shots have the car being driven fast? It looks like it is just cruising around slowly.
I ordered mine last year and only got it last week and could only get a Rallye (not complaining) mines number 172, so the 200 of them haven't even been made yet . I'm still trying to figure out how to turn the lady off that tells me I go over 1km the speed limit
I'd get the Rallye edition for sure, and also replace the front seats with some Recaro's
Proper driving car. My Renaultsport 197 is on its last legs and this might be the fitting replacement.
I'm coming from a 182 Trophy that a pillock being chased by the police wrote off.
@@portland573 same, had trophy and long line of renaultsports
If there is kanye theres rallye?
Why would you want an automatic in a car like this ?
I don’t know
Because you don't enjoy driving 🤣
A great deal of younger buyers with automatic only licences may want a dual clutch auto and would be quicker and likely slightly more economical but like the ST Fiesta I’d only want a manual
@@malcolmscott4150 👍
Plenty of paddle years ahead of us mate. I'm sooooo thankful that I learnt to drive with a stick manual personally.
Let those younger drivers import the Japanese RS version, fwd 1.5 "cvt" lol.... Fingers crossed they never sell it in the uk😆
Because it’s an easier sell to the the better half, kinda like being neutered but still being left with somewhat of a set of balls. Better some than a 1.5 cvt...
Looks good.
These are going to be ripe for the picking on the used market in a few years...
I think they will hold their value and fall into collectors hands for the most part defo curious as to future value
@@rtorbs the GR Supra is another car I'll be keeping an eye on
Just checking in. Not really as of 2022
just drove home my 24 rallye new - fucking insane boiz its basically a rally car thats legal
Yes please
The CircuitPack/Rallye is worth it simply for the LSDs. In the UK the price difference was £3500 making the additional wheels, LSDs and suspension tweaks an utter bargain. If you want to buy CircuitPack/Rallye wheels from Toyota, they're £3500 for a set. Really puts into perspective how much of a bargain the CircuitPack/Rallye is compared to the base model car.
The wheels are £1600 per wheel ; £6400 for a set plus Tyres
@@relentlesspursuit6894 so the CircuitPack/Rallye is even more of a bargain then
@@jbu89gb yes, absolutely! I also think itl hold its appeal and value stronger over time. The interior bits on the convienence pack are just gimmicky - the whole car is inconvenient in reality 🤣. Buying a car like this its all about the driving so the CP is the only way to go
@@relentlesspursuit6894 Yes agreed, I have a Circuit Pack, but I must admit I would have liked the JBL and heated seats and wheel.
Why the UK did not get heated parts but Australia did is something that makes no sense at all!
Super hot country - heated wheel/seats
Cold country - no heated wheel/seats.
@@jbu89gb speaker upgrades will soon be available for the GR which will help. I'm sure most buyers would of gone for both packs if an option but as that wasnt possible its CP all the way 😎
Equivalent in the UK is called circuit pack (although we don't get heated seats) but price differece is even less, so very few non circuit packs have been sold over here. Mine is landing in 6 weeks or so and am looking forward to getting her run in and then deciding if I'm going to fettle her. Will be getting some mudflaps on though, as those wide hips look like stone chip magnets!
Considering one of these. Felt the Rallye was essential. But figure the Corolla GR might be stock sooner if released this year.
Cheaper than uk by £3500 for the Rally. 54'500 AUD = £29'998 .....£33'500 basic in UK for that package.... interesting
We also get all the packages as standard so it’s possibly the one time we are not getting shafted!
the brakes are the same mate lol
Dead set. I drive number 12!
Toyota VS Corona Virus. At least someone is fighting for humanity in 2021!
Why do they reduce the number of seats in this and the Civic type R? When you have five in your family you may as well just buy a two seater
Are you drunk?
@@larjkok1184 not enough to enjoy your responses
Most Japanese performance cars have 4 seats. It’s like being able to transport 4 people comfortably or 5 people with 3 in discomfort, they choose comfort. The point of a hot hatch isn’t to carry people around though, it’s a fun daily car and I may even take my rear seats out.
Go buy a van or sth
@@Wind_slash0 no
How many minutes are you going to spend talking about it having LSDs before you talk about it having LSDs?
A whole 12 minutes