Scott Stokely Adds 50 Feet To My Backhand In 15 Minutes
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- Опубліковано 28 вер 2024
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With how many times you have added 50 feet to your shots I'd expect you to be out throwing Anthony Barela by now.
Hahahahahaha
😂
Lol
Scott is the David Leadbetter of disc golf 👍
Nobody out throws AB 😏
Awesome collab, I love the way Scott teaches and breaks everything down step by step. Definitely makes it a lot easier to understand what's going on in a disc golf throw at high speed when you break it down like that. I'm also looking forward for the 1 month update, it would be really cool if you included a montage of your field work throughout the month in the video.
I was in Scott's seminar after Ledgestone in Peoria, IL. I need to go back and refresh on his teachings I'll admit. He has helped me get better and shot my first under par round though thanks to his help
That wrist thing you mentioned at about 10:10 is huge. Had a private lesson with Philo, and that's the biggest thing that helped my game. The rotation on my putts especially got a lot easier.
Its important stuff
Man with all these +50 feet videos you must be up to 1000+ foot drives by now!
Bhahahah shit is stupid
So sweet to see two of my favs on one channel - keep chuckin'
Great video with Scott, a great guy!
I am Peruvian! and I know you Scott!!
❤️
Great ad for Scott and lesson for the rest of us who don't get that opportunity. His teaching, personality, and ability are all reasons why he's in my top 5 current pros.
Thanks Guys!
Muscle memory! Any time I try and change anything every thing goes to Sh*t. I try and try to improve and it seems to just mess my throw up. 😕
Dude I had no idea you had Stokely on your channel! I bet this was epic. I see you can't stop smiling 😁 Now I also know where some of your form comes from! Crazy awesome!
What a great video!! Can't wait to take your course when you come to Australia!!!
Stokely what an absolute legend
I have Stokely's picture right next to Philo's picture in my office. Scott has been super cool to me when I was at my lowest. He also overestimated my distance. Always amazing. I will invite him to my wedding.
350 with so little effort is amazing. Not counting lucky griplock shanks, I've thrown 350 twice ever, but was def yeeting it. Can't wait to drill this.
Scott's a treasure.
this is the man I learned from!
I started his first 6 month class. The first few lessons were huge for me. Fixed things in my game that have been wrong for 20 years.
I stopped the class because I broke my ankle at work, and couldn't play, but it is utterly impossible for me to recommend his 6 month class more vehemently.
Very cool! What disc did you throw for the 350 and the stand still?
the GOAT Big Scott!!!
That first standstill was sooo beutifull
When I was younger I'm in my mid-forties now but when I was younger I play disc golf a couple times and I loveed it.. fast forward all these years I end up getting a divorce bought me a bag and some discs I've been out there every day for three months sometimes twice a day I'm very passionate about it and I'm hoping by the time I'm 55 I am a pro at this unfortunately I'll be a little older but that's okay if you're thinking about getting into disc golf please do it now don't wait take your kids out there and have some fun because I'm living in regret that I never did and I don't want everyone else to live in regret as well
Has it been 30 days yet? I keep coming back waiting to see the progress! 😁😁😁
Not yet, roughly 3 weeks!
@@IceBergTV progress video coming soon? 👀
@@funkgremlin2765 👍
I would love to see that left out 20 minutes as well!
Is there a way to only have form review?
lessons with a master...noice.
Fast forward to 1:15
yeah also many of the top form gurus on dgcoursereview technique & strategy subforum recommend keeping your eyes on your target until the point that your upper body coiling naturally draws them back because it engages the oblique sling. thoughts?
Stokely is great 👍🏻
Really hard to focus with that juicy QJ!
Are you still using what Scott taught you? I notice now you throw over 400.
Hey Scott, I have "heard" of you...
...BTW, born in Peru 🙂
‘’World famous”
I wish I had a family member that was pro and could coach me up.
Im not related to scott, he was just kind enough to make a video
Do you happen to remember the “wrist thing” he was having you think about.
The dude has “disc golf” tatted across his fingers… that’s how you know 😂
Nice!
I love Scott and believe he is a forehand wonder, but let's be honest... Scott Stokely is not known for being accurate or consistent with his backhand and there is plenty of evidence in his season this year. Much of what he says (regarding backhand) is just simply old school and not ideal. He legitimately walks backward after his x-step making it 10x harder to turn his hips quickly AND forces there to be rounding with a far too long and incorrectly placed reach back. If you are a beginner thinking Scott Stokely will give you the backhand of your dreams I ask that you ignore the information he has on the backhand. This is not against Scott at all but I am just cringing because of the evidence we have now about the backhand. Listen to Scott's forehand advice! But if you are looking for backhand help see Sling Shot Disc Golf, Overthrow Disc Golf, Simon Lizotte slow-mo's, Drew Gibson slow-mo's, Ezra Aderhold, Ben Callaway, Etc. I am telling you, it is NOT a coincidence that all these pros and teachers are saying what they are. Look at the slow-mo evidence!
This is solid analysis. ALL pros who throw over 500 feet have a lot of features in common, and walking up backwards (or reversing) isn't one of them. Scott's coaching helped him improve his nose angle and coiling, resulting in a higher exit velocity and increased distance. Contrary to Scott's walk-up alignment, his feet and hips were better positioned.
Scott is like 8 foot 7. I've been saying everytime i watch a how-to backhand video from him that nearly everything he teaches is wrong. He can throw far with this form because he's absurdly tall. If people wanna know the correct form, smaller guys who throw just as far like Emerson, Paul, Mason, etc. and even Paige are who should be emulated. Nothing against Scott at all tho he means well and is a super nice and cool guy. But he throws far by "reaching back" and "pulling through" because his levers are so long and powerful, not because that particular form is ideal. He also grunts loudly on bigger throws. Like he's really muscling it, whereas other pros do not exert that kind of effort for equal distance.
@@hipgnostic560 I agree 100%. I would have mentioned his height helping him but I figured my message was lengthy enough as is haha.
@@Kristofburger I agree about why Iceberg threw further. He really did have better foot placement and shoulder coil before Stokely "fixed" him. And Iceberg if you are reading this: stick with your run up how it was, focus on throwing straight out towards the hit, focus on your left hand coming through earlier to turn the hips, focus on your brace to translate the power efficiently and not lose any after the hit, and most of all... NOSE ANGLE. :) Keep up the good work!!
Also, a pet peeve of mine is that Scott said not to lean over. This is how we control hyzer angles! the more you lean forward at the hip the more hyzer. This helps tremendously with the consistency and integrity of angle release.
Back in 82' I could throw a disc over those mountains! Jk, I was 3 back in 82' 😂 Love the video!
afaik seabas22 says that we should throw from near our bellybutton rather than our pec because it's closer to our COG. thoughts?
So the reason why you would consider throwing higher is because the lower your upper arm is pointing, the shorter your effective lever distance is in the swing plane. For example, put your arm as low as you can reasonably go, and hold the disc correctly parallel to your forearm. Now hold the upper arm completely parallel to the ground. That effective lever distance increases the higher up the arm goes. You still have to make adjustments with your entire arm, how you hold the disc, etc, but that's the essential argument.
I just started playing, I average 90 feet while I watch high school kids throw 200 easy, need to figure out what Im doing wrong
Sounds like you aren’t keeping the nose down.
Do you physically pull the disc when you are going to throw in the power pocket or is that just the trajectory from moving your hips into the shot?
Ah got ya
Scott is so much cooler than Ken K.. Its sad, but no one really misses him. Think of Mj, Gretzky they still love the sport.
Ice man is no shrimp, Stokely is a 6'7" sasquatch man fyi
I'm a bit jealous. Not of your throwing.. of you getting the big dog, Scott Stokley. How much did he charge?
Free.99
@@IceBergTV he came to a tournament I played at a couple years ago before he was big on UA-cam... I missed that opportunity. Good luck with all your upcoming practice in the next few weeks to hit 400. It will come if you practice.
Interesting. Call out Stokely and others about a "fake power grip", next think they are on video together. "plan successful!" )
Ever notice how all these far throwing pros are majority tall and lanky
It certainly seems to help!!
That's why most heavy weight boxers are tall and not fully jacked. They can snap off knockout punches like nothing. There is always exceptions though. Ie Mike Tyson or Paul Mcbeth. And it's bc they work twice/three times harder than the guys w the natural gifts.
Being tall is a benefit in nearly every sport
@@d.harris5971 tyson was short and stout, so his power was closer to his body, to take advantage of that he would aggressively work himself to the inside of his opponent… otherwise I agree.
There is a Peruvian player in my local area. He knows who you are Scott
scott lessons
anyone gonna take a lesson?
So your at like 750 ft nowadays lol jk
850 internet distance
Seems this advice is contradictory to other form experts
11:27
Train train train
I took Scott Stokely 8 hour class in Waco. Fantastic! At 65 years old at the time my max distance was around 150'. Just turned 66 this week and can now reach 300'. Plus my putting sucked so bad he held me and another guy after the class ended and didn't stop helping us until we found the proper putt for us. My forehand is also around 300' as well now. You have to go back every now and then and watch the video he makes of you of doing the 4 part process in slow motion to get back on track. Best lesson by far! I have my own 18 hole disc golf course on the ranch. My Son and I laid it out to where it would be a medium difficulty type course and as we progress we change it up to make it more challenging.
Great story Ron, very interesting!
Where you at? My 16 yr old and I (53) would love to visit. Barron doubles my drive distance easily.
Scott Stokely is an awesome human. Just the history of the sport that he knows let alone being part of that history is so cool.
Great video! I'm jealous that you got to do a one on one lesson with Scott.
Yeah thanks it was realllly cool and helpful!
This essentially just comes down to lack of fully coiling your upper body backwards. This did me wonders for effortless power. However, it's very easy to fall in the trap of walking backwards if you focus too hard on getting your upper body backwards too early. If your feet are backwards along with your upper body, there's no tension between the lower and upper body as they're both facing backwards, and it becomes slow, inefficient, and not powerful to have to forcefully rotate both lower and upper body back around at the same time. As long as the feet are perpendicular to your upper body when you coil the upper body backwards, then the power should come in the form of merely releasing tension between that coil.
Very true thats good advice!
Thanks - pinned down nicely !
Could prob throw close to 500 if you used a power grip
I can’t believe I’m his doubles partner for Australian nationals. I’ll learn so much, he seems like such a great teacher and person.
lucky you!
How'd it go?
Really well! We got tied second place, I also caddied for him throughout the tournament.
And then a few weeks after we played what was then the longest disc golf hole.
Iceberg was throwing over 400 ft. Then he said he added 100 ft with pinch grip. Now 50 ft from Scott. Dang he is throwing over 550 ft now.
I believe with the new form from scott i can unlock the mid 400s which has eluded me
🤣
yea all of his videos are so click baity. Its like painfully obvious he barely threw in this video...
Wow… that was so cool🤯 he’s so disc golf smart. Im speechless
Agreed!
I don't get it! It seems like Scott is doing things wrong like facing backwards, reaching back early, turning head back too much. These are things other coaches teach against. I know he's exaggerating the moves but still.
I love how positive Scott is about all of it. He is a awesome teacher and from what he has shown us a great human.
Gotta appreciate the Stokely work ethic - selling and educating in America. His book is a great read, had me fixated with his story and his connection to the history of disc golf. The Icebergian has been lighting up the channel lately, starting with the power grip bonfire !
I’ve loved Scott’s program, I’m in his first Online group…and now I have a forehand for the first time ever. Be willing to rebuild your swing from scratch, and pace yourself!
I went out today, threw standing up straight, getting my head looking back for a longer reachback, and got the disc through my upper chest. I have been going way to low, bending forward obviously, and I now threw 330-350ft with what felt like 60-70% power to not over do it. About as far as a good 100% would get me before.
This video was a gamechanger. Thank you Scott! Amazing.
(Oh, and yes I will definately have to relearn my discs now...)
I love Scott and I’m no pro but I have watched 1000s of hours of pros throwing and they all keep their chin in line with the front shoulder not looking at the disc but looking toward the target
He stated in the video to do this in the begining and as he progresses he can learn to move his head.
He covers this in this video and many... He shows a specific structure but he always caveats that once you get the concept the minute details might be stylistically different depending on your own body, mechanics, hand shape/size. So he's definitely not a saying there is only one way, but if you are looking to start somewhere to get better and comfortable that's what he's giving.
Nice development quickly. ❤️👏I'd only comment that this swing is the "old school"-style, which is fine, but not that people would think that this is the only way to throw. Quite a few finnish players now have moved onto a "modern swing" that doesn't have a separate reach back at all. 🇫🇮
Would you mind explaining that, or maybe point out an example of this? I'd like to know more, as I'm trying to get better at throwing, too. TY 🙂
@@NickCarroll Hey Nick! Take a look at Niklas Anttila and Seppo Paju for reference.
I had to change my notification bell just to make sure I don't miss the 1 month update!
I remember sling shot disc golf breaking down the pros and they always keep the head forwards. There’s so many ways to tweak a throw. Depends what works for you.
He did say that he has his students purposefully turn their head back more than necessary to break bad habits and then they can tweak it after developing better mechanics
Love the video and you both are awesome! But I’m a little confused, in this video you say you backhand distance “caps at 330” but in numerous other videos you are throwing 375-400. Ex: ua-cam.com/video/Ggh8XjuQiCo/v-deo.html
I have good days and bad days. My backhand was in a bad state currently
You stole what I was going to say. I've looked around at a lot of his videos and his titles are click baity. He also talked about adding 100 feet to his throw based off his grip... so he went from 230 foot back hand to a 330 then apparently 400 with this video. He is scratching scott's back and scott is scratching his. This is UA-cam 101.
The Mike pillow of disc golf
One of the nicest disc golfers you could ever hope to meet.
True!!
I took one of his clinics and this was taught and it definitely got me at least an extra 50-65ft.
Awesome!
THIS IS INSANE! I literally would try so hard to hit a 320-330! I watched my video of my throwing and holy crap I was WAAY off!! Didn’t do a single thing on this video. I just went out, I literally stand still and I threw over 300! I did a slow x walk and threw 370!!! I’m losing my mind haha thank you!!!
Oh and the best part!! We recorded it and I actually hear a WOOSH when I threw them! Actually mind blown
Love Scott might have to schedule a time to see him
Do it!
Great video... I love how Scott admits upfront that he is only arrogant in disc golf alone and humbly nothing else because disc golf is all he knows and does. I truly respect that and identify with it personally. I've watched a ton of videos and he's a heck of a insightful coach. In all his free youtube content he really seems to know the challenge issues/areas going on in a students mind when being coached on new approach/technique and has adapted a very insightful style to keep a student from overthinking meltdown or analysis/paralysis. That is a sign of a great teacher in any area let alone disc golf. As soon as i get a break i'm going to be signing up for his program for sure.
I made these changes 2 months ago and think the idea of Slow is smooth and smooth is far is bad wording for ideal form. I think smooth makes you think tension free and relaxed. That leads to leaning forward for many beginners. Keeping my shoulders flexed upright and arm flexed the entire backswing guarantees a flat or slight anhyzer release before the slingshot. Also feeling tension from potential energy building makes it easy to feel when you have the most power to turn the potential into kinetic energy.
Took a lesson from SS once, utterly worthless. It was he was reading a script and made my form way worse. Patrick Brown was the best teacher I’ve ever had. Jon Baldwin and Johne McCray were great too. Nothing beats practice though.
9:03 on .25 speed is the actual outcome and looks great. Does Scott teach to start out on ani or was that a biproduct of over emphasizing standing up straight? Also, what disc were you throwing?
I would have loved this if it wasnt for my home country! im Norwegian so we have 6 months with much snow. I live in the wrong country with discgolf as a hobby, hahah!
I gotta say the golf swing comparison is completely wrong. You shouldn't be generating any power way up above your head like that
So are you throwing 400’ yet?
Yes!!
I'm glad I ran across this video. I just watched some moron in Hawaii saying you had to lean over to throw farther.
Scott will always be a legend in the sport, now he's just adding being a legend in teaching
Definitely showed improvement at WACO!
That was awesome seeing Scott throw that killer side arm to win that huge skins hole against those guy's.
Awesome presentation!
So, where's the follow-up vid? I didn't see it linked
Imagine taking advice from Scott stokely of all people
That was a cool video, ty! Btw you look like Hailey Joel Osment lol, cheers!
Nipple High let it fly, one term in volleyball I was able to bring into discgolf
Very cool. Looking forward to what results you are able to achieve.
this was great, I get to it from time to time then it gets really long
Bruh awesome 🎉 thanks for sharing!
Scott Stokley is the greatest.
that was impressive!
Good tips.
Although I think everyone who knows how to throw decently, will throw further with an anhyzer release.
Try hyzer flipping an appropriate disc and you may change your mind.
What drivers were you throwing?
Momentum pretty fly, loft bohrium, a bunch of random stuff really
So, the lesson was hidden. It's ok. I don't see any pros turning their back to the basket, anyway. I won't be back.
The only thing Scott is slightly off on here is about standing completely upright. Your core 100% can not activate properly in an upright position. Anyone reading this try to tighten your core standing upright, then crunch down slightly and try it. It’s not even close to feeling the same. And as in every athletic movement, the core is key to the upper levels of power. Not saying Scott is wrong by any means. I’m sure this method works for a lot. But there’s not a single person who’s going to get 500+ with no core involvement or putting spin rate over core power. The best combo is utilizing the core to accelerate the spin. Would love to hear some thoughts on this
scotts the man.
Love this videos! That i had a lots of hjelp. Thanks! 😀🥏
thanks for watching!