Wow.. what a guest. We need more people like this. I learned a lot today. Please Sizwe get Moeletsi Mbeki. Also Ike Khumalo. We need these political history lessons every now and then
Moeletsi Mbeki is probably not gonna say anything new about SA. Stellenbosch mafias positioned themselves for the new dawn, there are more Afrikaaner billionaires now than ever, a bit of development trajectory comparison to Asian tigers here and there, SOEs should be privatised, BBE benefited ANC political elites, ministers are overcompensated.Manufacturing sector dibbed. The usual really, nothing new or exciting. SA have an increasing pool of experts, PhD and post-doc fellows tackling interesting topics at their varied intersections. We need new informed voices. He should call Tito Mboweni if he's looking for a more older voice, he has alot to share and account for. Don't shoot, I'm an orphan, a victim of apartheid.
I repeatedly say that, South Africa 🇿🇦 has capable leaders who can turn around the country, but the lack of inclusion of visionaries of this calibre is the main problem for the current government
My dad paid R5000 to a local chief for ancestral land. Then continued to plough R700k into building his home on it. R700k today isn’t the same as R700k in 2010. I wonder if his cost includes the time value of money plus improvements to the land?
Mr Moganwa is one of this country’s best minds. Great episode. Level headed and considerate. SA needs more socially conscious leaders who understand the role of business in uplifting the nation. Business are people. And people are so eager to start and grow.
Thank you Sizwe for availing a platform for the bright and capable in our society. For too long, our potential has been drowned by the loud and obnoxious, to the point that we are close to forgetting that there are amongst us those that can lead this country to greatness.
I hv listened to this guy in trying to find him nd his political aspirations and political posture,i hv to say,tht hasn't come out clear,bt i like him,he's very smart..
Thanks for the interview. What stood out for me in education is thekey outcome of the compulsary Multiracial boarding High School;; the Basic self defense, military training, mannaging money and critical Thinking.
Mr Jan Moganwa has some of the most practical and interesting views on how we can progress as a nation I've heard in a while, what a great episode. 🔥 Ayeye
A very insightful interview. Please keep on giving people outside the political party atmosphere to the show. I also recommend that the book recommendation should be a permanent feature of the show for every guest. We must always encourage a culture of reading.
Wow ❤❤what an amazing interview!!!,South Africa is blessed with options of great leadership!!!,I hope we one day wake up as a nation to realize our abundance of options and opportunities if we choose unity and progress and how limiting it is that we keep picking division and domination of one group over the other!
Oh man, this just became a fave! He complimented you on your ability to distill in your book and he too deserves the praise. That's what he did for me in this conversation
Fantastic interview. I learned a lot - a key thought around keeping the 3 x group split. Such important insights and grateful for the reminder: proper understanding provides for solutions that incorporate a growth towards integrity. South Africans need to know that "fixing" requires a depth of understanding and a desire not to cloud the room with smoke - conflict is too easy! We must stay together - fostering and supporting each other - reminding that the future belongs to every child. (Because 15 years is really a short stretch.) I love the way Jan takes out the colour in "The Behaviour of Capital".
Hi Sizwe,it amazed me, we have so many talented South African 🇿🇦 men and women we have, I personally want to thank you for your wonderful honest and professional pot cast, my question is simple, where is this good individuals, we need to listen to more people with the intellect and insight of your guest today, I honor you, I respect you, and so is your guest, keep on with your good forum, I just enjoy your show, and equally I learn so much ✔️👍
Education is a huge factor that is being ignored or pushed aside with all the other scandals and drama south africans r facing. Education needs to be at rhe forefront of the issues we face.
A well informed guest, and yes all big economies are run by big business across the globe, in South Africa we just need ethical leaders who are not corrupt and greedy to drive regulations abs transformation without collapsing our only country South Africa
Smwxxxx 🎉 dope conversion...I didn't whether he is part of a political party or? Interesting point of view and very frank about big business running the country 🙏
I can see more South Africans supporting what we as Afrikaners are doing to save ourselves our culture, and our future, things like Orania and Afriforum.
2:30 That is precisely what he is saying… these cocoons like Orania, Afriforum, Cape exit like apartheid before are not sustainable. They are fighting for a cabin upgrade. Relocating to ancestral & cultural homelands of Netherlands, France, Germany and U.K. would make more sense for such people. You can get your cabin upgrade in SA but when this thing sinks it’s taking everyone down. FYI those with little to no stake in the economy have less to lose.
@harivist365 "these cocoons like Orania, Afriforum, Cape exit like apartheid before are not sustainable" Eissh! Orania is the only town in your squatter camp called South Africa that is expanding rapidly. Afriforum on the other hand is a organization that are actually fixing many things the ANC regime is destroying. I am sure you are extremely jealous about that, I would suggest listen to what Jan Moganwa said and that is learn from the whites or go down with the ANC/EFF/MK, the choice is yours.
@@khaltsharivist365 "You can get your cabin upgrade in SA but when this thing sinks it’s taking everyone down" Thank you for my cabin upgrade, I am sure my "cabin" looks better than your rainbow-nation cabin at the moment I mean Orania is the only town that is expanding rapidly in the whole of South Africa. Afriforum with more than 370 000 members is definitely much more influential and economically stable than the whole of the ANC/EFF/MK together.
@@khaltsharivist365 as a rational white afrikaner who is 1st & foremost a south african, i wish to add my comment here saying that the majority of young afrikaners don't share this other dude's opinion. we love our country, love the diversity & are much much better off living in integrated & stimulating communities alongside all our countrymen. i'd add that i have much more in common with other SA'ns then with the idiots over in orania
@@lm_b5080 The "other dude" here 😂you are most welcome to "living in integrated & stimulating communities alongside all our countrymen" that is your right. There are many that choose to live with people of their own culture and it is also their right to do so, as stated in the constitution. "i wish to add my comment here saying that the majority of young afrikaners don't share this other dude's opinion" Hard to believe if you look at for example Afriforum Youth and the membership of the Solidarity Movement and Afriforum which is mostly young Afrikaners. "i'd add that i have much more in common with other SA'ns then with the idiots over in orania" Absolutely you are not forced to live in Orania but I also think you wont fit in because those people are hard working people they don't have time to sit around on UA-cam channels insulting others. Orania is the only town in the whole of South Africa that is expanding exponentially which tells me they are doing something right.
The gentleman's knowledge and insights are encyclopedic. The question is whether the new, envisaged 'coalition' government will have the gumption to action these brilliant ideas.
This has to rank as one of my favourite episodes. He spoke a lot about things I am passionate about. I hope one day I can send you a dm Sizwe to tell you more about these issues, from a youths perspective 😊
SMWX can have a panel session with people like him and thrash out on the proper balanced analysis of South Africa, how SA got here, where we are and what alternative opportunities exist to move forward, looking at both sides of history factually. I really like the analysis from the business perspective as he puts it. It makes a lot of sense than just looking at the political narrative.
Hope is the only thing they cannot take from us, as hard as they have tried and continue to. It's easy to loose hope , but refreshing to know ppl out there have not lost hope in a better future for us
An interesting part about the land act of 1913 came directly from the consequences of the Anglo-Boer war of 1899 - 1902. The British won the war (as the Afrikaners couldn't be beaten in the field but the Afrikaners were dying like flies in the concentration camps (and note not just Afrikaners - over Afrikaner 27000 women and children and black 29000 women and children aligned to the Afrikaners who were in concentration camps as well!) BUT the empire was financially constrained as that war costed the British empire so much money. This led to concessions between the two groups leading to Union in 1910. The Afrikaners essentially got the political power BUT the British / (eventually became English white South Africa) controlled the business sector. 1948 when the National party came in (and Apartheid as law) - one of the objectives was to get the Afrikaners into business ie. building Sanlam etc. So in 1910 - Afrikaners had the political sphere and the British/English - the business sphere!
you can add that in the 1920s/30s the afrikaners had a very very strong labour movement which was crushed by the wealthy english. i'd argue afrikaners turned to Nationalism in 1948 in much the same way poor americans have ignorantly turned to Trump believing he acts on their behalf. go read up about bram fisher & others.
We must acknowledge also that the discovery of minerals and development of mines motivated the political decisions around 1886 when Standard Bank established business in SA
Politics is not cooperate space. It's a whole complete different space. It's either you are right or left, you can't be both or mixed. AfriForum is a typical example of being clear on which site they take. Priority in SA, should be to address the social injustices which are due to historical background of colonialism, apartheid n they still exist due to corruption. Once we can address social injustices, we can now open a discussion of what type of society we want. Otherwise Mr Jan, sounds more like an analyst not a politician.
At a foundation level, I agree with multilingual school offerings, and as the students progress to the secondary level then they use English as the only medium of instruction.
Question: What are the outcomes where there is a lack of cohesion - in a coalition government? Serious conversations need to be had by South Africans - after the political power grab on the 29th May 2024!
Spread the fire indeed!,SMWX always has great people,amazing conversations and essential ideas for a complex nation like ours!!,I enjoyed this episode so much I watched it twice 😂,this definitely makes my top 10 SMWX interviews ❤
In just 2 minutes of this interview I wonder, as he was brought up by corporate SA, internalised some of their practices and benefitted from them and this country's neo-liberal and anti poor policies. What does he stand for? He is brought into the political arena by what he articulates as self-interest brought about by the need to improve the society his kids will inhabit. Are his interests aligned with the majority of the poor SANs? Looking into the fact that often business interests are anti-poor? My thinking is that he is another version of Busa,Rise Mzansi, and Cope. Those parties are just sides of the same coin and are competing for the same tiny votes from the black middle class in an overwhelmingly poor country.
It almost sounds like this argument you make and others like it seem to dismiss any form of poverty alleviation discussion that doesn’t seem to retain and perpetuate poverty status quo. May I ask, what specifically gives you the impression of being anti-poor/pro-white in what this man has proposed, because Ive just listened to the entire discussion, and EVERY point he has made promotes the alleviation of poverty and the promotion of real transformation in this country, and not the populist garbage spewed by the current politicians that seem most popular, he’s proposals seem to be amongst the most practical I’ve heard and hit directly at the sources of our current problems without the racist rhetoric? To me this type of attitude sounds like you want more of the same that we’ve been having for the past 3 decades or am I perhaps missing something?
@@siZobonaMakezaI did none of that, mine was to ask what is he stands for and how is what he is saying practical? It's all fancy words, and he is such a romantic. Liberalism wont make any head way in changing the situation in this country. Radical economic policies are needed and political will is a must. What Jan is saying is what we already have, we have had more than once. It yielded no results through various ANC presidents. And If you think Jan will make any changes you are dreaming. He is merely a sophisticated version of Mandela. Good ideals don't matter in politics, he is a dreamer and it will end there. SA business won't just roll over because Jan one of their own is speaking. Even his party is elitist, and won't resonate with the majority of the people in the country.
@@mthethelelimagqaza9072 there are what I believe to be inaccuracies in your statement but then again you seem to be fixed in your beliefs and points of view, who am I to propose an alternative perspective. I hope your wishes come true and you reap the rewards of what you wish for and able to find peace with the unintended consequences that may arise 👊🏾
I had high hope based on the trailer. However I see intent to implement the same plans just with their subtle spin on it. Cant wait for the movement to gain traction then judge based on performance, because on paper everybody shines
I guess politicians have been 'captured' a long time. If Business paid for their accomodation when they returned to SA. Obviously they returned favours once they came into power
The more these corporate guys speak ,the more I think we need politicians. Yes they might be good in running municipalities or departments. I'm not sure but May 29 will decide.
"The motto is: !ke e: /xarra //ke, written in the Khoisan language of the /Xam people, literally meaning diverse people unite. It addresses each individual effort to harness the unity between thought and action. On a collective scale it calls for the nation to unite in a common sense of belonging and national pride - unity in diversity."
Afriforum is known for issues they have taken on, so what issues have these Citizans taken on? That will give us a good picture of what he stands for politically. This guy is well read which is great and seemingly great at climbing the corporate ladder but I doubt that makes for an effective politicians in South Africa,
Wow.. what a guest. We need more people like this. I learned a lot today. Please Sizwe get Moeletsi Mbeki. Also Ike Khumalo. We need these political history lessons every now and then
Moeletsi Mbeki is probably not gonna say anything new about SA.
Stellenbosch mafias positioned themselves for the new dawn, there are more Afrikaaner billionaires now than ever, a bit of development trajectory comparison to Asian tigers here and there, SOEs should be privatised, BBE benefited ANC political elites, ministers are overcompensated.Manufacturing sector dibbed. The usual really, nothing new or exciting.
SA have an increasing pool of experts, PhD and post-doc fellows tackling interesting topics at their varied intersections.
We need new informed voices.
He should call Tito Mboweni if he's looking for a more older voice, he has alot to share and account for.
Don't shoot, I'm an orphan, a victim of apartheid.
I hope Duma Gqubule is part of his circle!!
WORD
wow. now tht u mention Mr Moeletsi Mbeki .... he should actually be a regular here...
(Sizwe, sorry for imposing🙈🙈🙈 )
These are the leaders we have and can turn things around in this country!
This is probably the best episode on SMWX. South Africa needs new thinking.
Agreed!
It's proof positive that we have all the talent needed to turn this bus around and go back on track
i may be wrong SMWX FAM but can we make Mr Mogwana the friend of the show wow
I repeatedly say that, South Africa 🇿🇦 has capable leaders who can turn around the country, but the lack of inclusion of visionaries of this calibre is the main problem for the current government
Finally, someone with a sober and pragmatic view on land expropriation.
My dad paid R5000 to a local chief for ancestral land.
Then continued to plough R700k into building his home on it.
R700k today isn’t the same as R700k in 2010.
I wonder if his cost includes the time value of money plus improvements to the land?
We need part 2, soonest. Before election please. ❤
Yes please!
Absolutely phenomenal,a serious contender for my vote
Mr Moganwa is one of this country’s best minds.
Great episode.
Level headed and considerate.
SA needs more socially conscious leaders who understand the role of business in uplifting the nation.
Business are people. And people are so eager to start and grow.
Yhoo so much is unpacked. I'll have to watch this again and again. He offers so much 'objective' perspective and context. This is 🔥 🔥 🔥 💯
Thank you Sizwe for availing a platform for the bright and capable in our society.
For too long, our potential has been drowned by the loud and obnoxious, to the point that we are close to forgetting that there are amongst us those that can lead this country to greatness.
This is the kind of leadership we need in SA❤🔥BIG SHOUTOUT TO MR. MOGANWA🔥🔥🔥
This man just unlocked so many facets of my mind 🔑🤯. Great guest Sizwe 💯!
I hv listened to this guy in trying to find him nd his political aspirations and political posture,i hv to say,tht hasn't come out clear,bt i like him,he's very smart..
Damn this Guy is so Good ....
👏 👏 👏 👏 👏
Just a brilliant open, frank and honest discussion about South Africa and what we can do to set it on a course for collective prosperity.
Sizwe and Jan, thank you for the arguably the most practical and most informative interview I have ever watched.
Thanks for the interview. What stood out for me in education is thekey outcome of the compulsary Multiracial boarding High School;; the Basic self defense, military training, mannaging money and critical Thinking.
Mr Jan Moganwa has some of the most practical and interesting views on how we can progress as a nation I've heard in a while, what a great episode. 🔥 Ayeye
The contents we subscribed for ❤🔥❤🔥❤🔥❤🔥❤🔥 #SMWX
A very insightful interview. Please keep on giving people outside the political party atmosphere to the show. I also recommend that the book recommendation should be a permanent feature of the show for every guest. We must always encourage a culture of reading.
The National Leader of Citizans. ✊
Wonderful interview, really enjoyed the discourse.
I can listen to this guy, mind stimulating 👏👏👏
Wow ❤❤what an amazing interview!!!,South Africa is blessed with options of great leadership!!!,I hope we one day wake up as a nation to realize our abundance of options and opportunities if we choose unity and progress and how limiting it is that we keep picking division and domination of one group over the other!
I would love Jan Moganwa to have a greater influence in the government policies.
Oh man, this just became a fave! He complimented you on your ability to distill in your book and he too deserves the praise. That's what he did for me in this conversation
I have an extreme high regard for individuals with an extensive library. Information has the potential to turn into wisdom. Thanks, SMWX
Great guest. ❤ What a leader, in support of CITIZANS 🎉
What a dope conversation especially on education,we need to have more of these Sizwe🙏🏾
For the first time, I listen to a speaker and I do not have objections to any point.
If only we could have people like this in government.
I agree however it will never be allowed, ppl like this individual are a detrimental threat to the control and power that governs south africa.
WOW, great guest and great episode!
This show never misses👌🏾
Fantastic interview. I learned a lot - a key thought around keeping the 3 x group split. Such important insights and grateful for the reminder: proper understanding provides for solutions that incorporate a growth towards integrity. South Africans need to know that "fixing" requires a depth of understanding and a desire not to cloud the room with smoke - conflict is too easy! We must stay together - fostering and supporting each other - reminding that the future belongs to every child. (Because 15 years is really a short stretch.) I love the way Jan takes out the colour in "The Behaviour of Capital".
❤
Bring him back.
Seconded
Yes please ,part 2 PLEASE
Hi Sizwe,it amazed me, we have so many talented South African 🇿🇦 men and women we have, I personally want to thank you for your wonderful honest and professional pot cast, my question is simple, where is this good individuals, we need to listen to more people with the intellect and insight of your guest today, I honor you, I respect you, and so is your guest, keep on with your good forum, I just enjoy your show, and equally I learn so much ✔️👍
Glad you enjoyed it!
South Africa...I think we have just witnessed our true leader.🤔
His views on education amongst other things 💯🙌🤔🔥🔥🔥
Education is a huge factor that is being ignored or pushed aside with all the other scandals and drama south africans r facing. Education needs to be at rhe forefront of the issues we face.
Thank you Sizwe this is awesome. I would also like to request that you invite the minister of Arts And Culture because artists are marginalized.
Jan just took us to Harvard on the state of the nation. This conversation has been a collection the nations wisdom. 🤌
A well informed guest, and yes all big economies are run by big business across the globe, in South Africa we just need ethical leaders who are not corrupt and greedy to drive regulations abs transformation without collapsing our only country South Africa
Smwxxxx 🎉 dope conversion...I didn't whether he is part of a political party or?
Interesting point of view and very frank about big business running the country 🙏
I need to join this movement!!!
We need More people like this in government
Inclusive, aye ye, I've been waiting for this, give us the link to find out more
Dr Sizwe ❤ your guests are so knowledgeable, the best 👌 👍🏾
I can see more South Africans supporting what we as Afrikaners are doing to save ourselves our culture, and our future, things like Orania and Afriforum.
2:30 That is precisely what he is saying… these cocoons like Orania, Afriforum, Cape exit like apartheid before are not sustainable. They are fighting for a cabin upgrade. Relocating to ancestral & cultural homelands of Netherlands, France, Germany and U.K. would make more sense for such people. You can get your cabin upgrade in SA but when this thing sinks it’s taking everyone down. FYI those with little to no stake in the economy have less to lose.
@harivist365 "these cocoons like Orania, Afriforum, Cape exit like apartheid before are not sustainable" Eissh! Orania is the only town in your squatter camp called South Africa that is expanding rapidly. Afriforum on the other hand is a organization that are actually fixing many things the ANC regime is destroying. I am sure you are extremely jealous about that, I would suggest listen to what Jan Moganwa said and that is learn from the whites or go down with the ANC/EFF/MK, the choice is yours.
@@khaltsharivist365 "You can get your cabin upgrade in SA but when this thing sinks it’s taking everyone down" Thank you for my cabin upgrade, I am sure my "cabin" looks better than your rainbow-nation cabin at the moment I mean Orania is the only town that is expanding rapidly in the whole of South Africa. Afriforum with more than 370 000 members is definitely much more influential and economically stable than the whole of the ANC/EFF/MK together.
@@khaltsharivist365 as a rational white afrikaner who is 1st & foremost a south african, i wish to add my comment here saying that the majority of young afrikaners don't share this other dude's opinion. we love our country, love the diversity & are much much better off living in integrated & stimulating communities alongside all our countrymen. i'd add that i have much more in common with other SA'ns then with the idiots over in orania
@@lm_b5080 The "other dude" here 😂you are most welcome to "living in integrated & stimulating communities alongside all our countrymen" that is your right. There are many that choose to live with people of their own culture and it is also their right to do so, as stated in the constitution.
"i wish to add my comment here saying that the majority of young afrikaners don't share this other dude's opinion" Hard to believe if you look at for example Afriforum Youth and the membership of the Solidarity Movement and Afriforum which is mostly young Afrikaners.
"i'd add that i have much more in common with other SA'ns then with the idiots over in orania" Absolutely you are not forced to live in Orania but I also think you wont fit in because those people are hard working people they don't have time to sit around on UA-cam channels insulting others. Orania is the only town in the whole of South Africa that is expanding exponentially which tells me they are doing something right.
The gentleman's knowledge and insights are encyclopedic. The question is whether the new, envisaged 'coalition' government will have the gumption to action these brilliant ideas.
*This is one of the best episodes!!!!*
But now I really don't know who to
vote for🤷🏽♂️!!!!
Thank you #SMWX
Are the value propositions are not strong enough to convince you?
What truly matters to you and your future in South Africa?
Well said Mr big up thanks 💯
This has to rank as one of my favourite episodes. He spoke a lot about things I am passionate about. I hope one day I can send you a dm Sizwe to tell you more about these issues, from a youths perspective 😊
SMWX can have a panel session with people like him and thrash out on the proper balanced analysis of South Africa, how SA got here, where we are and what alternative opportunities exist to move forward, looking at both sides of history factually. I really like the analysis from the business perspective as he puts it. It makes a lot of sense than just looking at the political narrative.
This man is sober!🤝 Especially about managing the contradictions with ANC.Acknowledge the good and be able to say goodbye 👏
Insightful interview, learnt quite a lot from it.
I could not agree more identifying the common interest in South Africa is highly inportant
Thank you so much for bringing this guest and thank you for the book recommendations 🙏
We need non carreer politicians like you sir to contribute in developing SA.
This guy gives me hope
Hope is the only thing they cannot take from us, as hard as they have tried and continue to. It's easy to loose hope , but refreshing to know ppl out there have not lost hope in a better future for us
John Perkins’s Confession of a Economic Hitman 👌
First view, first comment 😊
The most sensible man I've ever listened to❤
I need part 2asap. Amazing guest
10/10. High class chops
The conversation was really really refreshing.
This is Vuka Africa!I will join anytime if they take on new members. This is what we need in SA in order to regain our dignity as South Africans
Big business runs more powerful countries all over the world. Therefore the world is run by business, period.
Love this episode 😍 ❤
Big business runs the world !!!
An interesting part about the land act of 1913 came directly from the consequences of the Anglo-Boer war of 1899 - 1902.
The British won the war (as the Afrikaners couldn't be beaten in the field but the Afrikaners were dying like flies in the concentration camps (and note not just Afrikaners - over Afrikaner 27000 women and children and black 29000 women and children aligned to the Afrikaners who were in concentration camps as well!) BUT the empire was financially constrained as that war costed the British empire so much money. This led to concessions between the two groups leading to Union in 1910. The Afrikaners essentially got the political power BUT the British / (eventually became English white South Africa) controlled the business sector. 1948 when the National party came in (and Apartheid as law) - one of the objectives was to get the Afrikaners into business ie. building Sanlam etc.
So in 1910 - Afrikaners had the political sphere and the British/English - the business sphere!
you can add that in the 1920s/30s the afrikaners had a very very strong labour movement which was crushed by the wealthy english. i'd argue afrikaners turned to Nationalism in 1948 in much the same way poor americans have ignorantly turned to Trump believing he acts on their behalf. go read up about bram fisher & others.
@@lm_b5080 yup I agree. I've read up on it
We must acknowledge also that the discovery of minerals and development of mines motivated the political decisions around 1886 when Standard Bank established business in SA
I appreciate all the comments below, now time to support this platform with zaka.
Politics is not cooperate space. It's a whole complete different space.
It's either you are right or left, you can't be both or mixed. AfriForum is a typical example of being clear on which site they take.
Priority in SA, should be to address the social injustices which are due to historical background of colonialism, apartheid n they still exist due to corruption.
Once we can address social injustices, we can now open a discussion of what type of society we want.
Otherwise Mr Jan, sounds more like an analyst not a politician.
I just subscribed because of this episode. Well done.
Welcome! 👊🏼
At a foundation level, I agree with multilingual school offerings, and as the students progress to the secondary level then they use English as the only medium of instruction.
What an episode. Thanks for the book recommendations.
what a guy so diplomatic loved this chat
Question: What are the outcomes where there is a lack of cohesion - in a coalition government?
Serious conversations need to be had by South Africans - after the political power grab on the 29th May 2024!
Absolutely enjoyed this, I was taking a lot of notes for further research and expanding the rhetoric on some things as I listened!
Big business runs the world
Thanks
Thanks!
I love your programme❤
Spread the fire indeed!,SMWX always has great people,amazing conversations and essential ideas for a complex nation like ours!!,I enjoyed this episode so much I watched it twice 😂,this definitely makes my top 10 SMWX interviews ❤
Glad you enjoyed it!
Sizweee, kindly invite Dr Iqbal Surve' bro.
In just 2 minutes of this interview I wonder, as he was brought up by corporate SA, internalised some of their practices and benefitted from them and this country's neo-liberal and anti poor policies. What does he stand for? He is brought into the political arena by what he articulates as self-interest brought about by the need to improve the society his kids will inhabit. Are his interests aligned with the majority of the poor SANs? Looking into the fact that often business interests are anti-poor? My thinking is that he is another version of Busa,Rise Mzansi, and Cope. Those parties are just sides of the same coin and are competing for the same tiny votes from the black middle class in an overwhelmingly poor country.
Exactly!
Well put.
It almost sounds like this argument you make and others like it seem to dismiss any form of poverty alleviation discussion that doesn’t seem to retain and perpetuate poverty status quo. May I ask, what specifically gives you the impression of being anti-poor/pro-white in what this man has proposed, because Ive just listened to the entire discussion, and EVERY point he has made promotes the alleviation of poverty and the promotion of real transformation in this country, and not the populist garbage spewed by the current politicians that seem most popular, he’s proposals seem to be amongst the most practical I’ve heard and hit directly at the sources of our current problems without the racist rhetoric? To me this type of attitude sounds like you want more of the same that we’ve been having for the past 3 decades or am I perhaps missing something?
@@siZobonaMakezaI did none of that, mine was to ask what is he stands for and how is what he is saying practical? It's all fancy words, and he is such a romantic. Liberalism wont make any head way in changing the situation in this country. Radical economic policies are needed and political will is a must. What Jan is saying is what we already have, we have had more than once. It yielded no results through various ANC presidents. And If you think Jan will make any changes you are dreaming. He is merely a sophisticated version of Mandela. Good ideals don't matter in politics, he is a dreamer and it will end there. SA business won't just roll over because Jan one of their own is speaking. Even his party is elitist, and won't resonate with the majority of the people in the country.
@@mthethelelimagqaza9072 there are what I believe to be inaccuracies in your statement but then again you seem to be fixed in your beliefs and points of view, who am I to propose an alternative perspective. I hope your wishes come true and you reap the rewards of what you wish for and able to find peace with the unintended consequences that may arise 👊🏾
I had high hope based on the trailer. However I see intent to implement the same plans just with their subtle spin on it. Cant wait for the movement to gain traction then judge based on performance, because on paper everybody shines
Now heres a guy who seems to speak my language!!!
Great interview,like wise
Well done AGAIN on another valuable show!
When will you speak to Lauren from OHM?
Interesting discussion
While they were looking out for their interests, you weren't looking out for ours but yours...
I guess politicians have been 'captured' a long time. If Business paid for their accomodation when they returned to SA. Obviously they returned favours once they came into power
Ya no, we are okay moos. Why are we panicking vele, we have thinkers.
Big businesses runs the world not just south africa
The more these corporate guys speak ,the more I think we need politicians. Yes they might be good in running municipalities or departments. I'm not sure but May 29 will decide.
I love the term native as reference to blacks
1:03:54 That's one great book. 💛
Great book recommendation❤
Can i please have the list of the books... interesting coversation indeed and very eyeopening
interview the head of absa & ask how they arranged legal immunity for themselves? even the saps dont let you lay charged against them
Also Mr Sizwe... please get us Zuko Godlimpi and Thabo Mpesi.
"The motto is: !ke e: /xarra //ke, written in the Khoisan language of the /Xam people, literally meaning diverse people unite. It addresses each individual effort to harness the unity between thought and action. On a collective scale it calls for the nation to unite in a common sense of belonging and national pride - unity in diversity."
Afriforum is known for issues they have taken on, so what issues have these Citizans taken on? That will give us a good picture of what he stands for politically.
This guy is well read which is great and seemingly great at climbing the corporate ladder but I doubt that makes for an effective politicians in South Africa,