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I'm Latina and the only reason I'm not interested in reading Carrie Soto is because it's a sports book. There's this weird expectations on white authors to write diversity. But the moment they do write about other races they get criticized. I'm not talking about stereotypical characters, those are terrible, but we all have different experiences so no one is gonna write a character that represents a race/ethnicity as a whole.
Yes! Also, if we expected writers to write only about their own experiences that would be absurd. We would not have so many of great books that we do now.
As a Latina (born in Mexico, raised in the US), I loved it. Also, I didn’t even see this as a “Latina” book. It was more about a woman who is incredible ambitious and how ambitious women are viewed. If you like TJR books, please read this one as well.
Well as an actual Latina, who was born and raised in Argentina, I can tell you that the rep on this book was awsome. In fact, the spanished publisher who is from Buenos Aires helped Taylor with the quotes and the built of the characters. I have not seen a single problem with this book from people from Argentina. With respect, I find that people who don´t know about MY country should not be making this kind of commnets
I love the “actual latina”. More often than not, I see the ones who try to gatekeep what is latino representation and what isn’t are 3rd generation american-latinos. While we, actual latinas born and raised in Latin America, are just chill because we know being latino isn’t our only personality trait
@@thifanny7298 well that's your point of view and I agree with the first part. As for the last, I am going to speak if I see that I might know more about the experience of people from Latin America, that's not making it my "personality" 😅but actually speaking from a place of more knowledge
hey! so as a half latina specifically argentinian i have very strong emotions about carrie soto is back. personally i adore tjr and i think her representation of a hispanic is fine because in this day and age ur dammed if you do and dammed if you don’t. secondly and more importantly a big complaint was that the spanish was wrong BUT it isn’t it’s just the argentinan dialect of spanish and slang i think the effort put in to put it accurately is appreciatable.
Being Venezuelan-American and having really liked Carrie Soto is back , I don’t understand why we feel the need to keep writers in the boxes that society has put them in (or were “born into”) this is so scary as it limits creators range and censors their own voice. Gaining insight into the Latino in America perspective is not very hard, there is so much information out there that I am sure TJR put to good use. If we can only read latin American characters from latin people then prepare for them to the disappear from the US market (based on a simple population % + lack of Latin American writers representation in the US market) I loved Carrie Soto, she was a credible flawed character with bad ass skills, top notch work habits, and unapologetic attitude. despite a misogynistic society. Someone who even though was extremely successful needed to grow in other areas of her life (don’t we all). This book inspired me to work harder on what I love to do and I highly recommend the ride!
In Tomorrow and Tomorrow and Tomorrow, there is a whole passage on this since they made the japanese game and were not japanese. About how representation matters for these groups and that if we were never allowed out of our "boxes" (ie: if white female authors can only write about white female authors), we do a great disservice to art, literature, etc
I was about to disagree, but I think you're right. I was thinking that as mexican I wouldn't want an American writing about it. But as Chimamanda Ngozi Adichie said, there's a big difference between being half American and completely from other country. I just hope this won't make people look for American authors writing about the Latina experience, leaving actual Latinos without a voice
As an amputee, I really appreciated the accurate descriptions of chronic pain in Tomorrow and Tomorrow… what I personally didn’t enjoy was how his arc revolves around a girl. I would’ve preferred his arc revolved on self acceptance, but I’m just biased lol.
I’m glad to know the representation felt accurate ❤️ I agree about his arc being tied to Sadie, but I do appreciate that it was a friendship not a romance (despite the complicated feelings involved)
I’m Cuban American and absolutely loved Evelyn Hugo. I can understand why other Cubans wouldn’t (we are not a monolith) but I’m personally more concerned with her characters feeling complex than being entirely accurate to their ethnic background. That being said, you can absolutely tell TJR isn’t Latina by the way she writes her characters speaking Spanish. It was extremely noticeable in Carrie Soto because the way we communicate is not quite as simple as “random sentences in Spanish.” Spanglish often has regionalized but distinct grammar rules that are hard to replicate if you’re not intimately familiar with them.
I’m glad to know you enjoyed Evelyn Hugo as a Cuban American! And that’s a great point. I had read several criticisms of the Spanish in Carrie Soto which definitely added to the impression that the representation was not as accurate or well researched as we would hope.
I've said it before but I'll say it every time: it's so helpful to have a reviewer you trust give their honest opinion about these wildly popular books. If you're up for it I hope you do this every year! 📖
Interesting to hear your reasoning behind not reading Carrie Soto is Back. As a LatinX women I didn't find the character of Carrie Soto to be stereotypical, but I'm not of Argentinian/Latin American descent, so that could be why. I have read The Seven Husbands of Evelyn Hugo and as a Cuban American, I can say that I didn't find the representation of Evelyn Hugo to be stereotypical either. I actually found it interesting and fairly accurate that the author would write about a LatinX individual trying to assimilate to American culture and trying to "pass" as caucasian during that time. From what I know about the experience of my grandparents/parents as immigrants to the US, this happened frequently during that time. Given the diversity within the LatinX/Hispanic communities, it would likely be impossible to write a character that pleased everyone. I also think the intent of the story/the characters story arc need to be taken into account. This author isn't writing a story focused on a first generation Argentinian-American discovering the balance between her ethnic heritage and American culture. A story like that would probably be best coming from a LatinX author, someone with personal knowledge of that experience. CSIB and TSHOEH are focused on different facets of those characters, they discuss their heritage, but it isn't the focus of the story the author is trying to tell. I agree that if writing outside of personal experience there needs to be appropriate research done and care taken, but I think at the end of the day, every LatinX/Hispanic individual is going to have a different opinion after reading CSIB and no one opinion or group of opinions can be considered "right" or "wrong." Disappointed to hear that readers feels the author has been dismissive of criticism of her writing of LatinX characters, but at the same time, maybe she has been listening to individuals who feels she's appropriately/accurately writing them. Not everyone can be pleased.
Thank you for sharing your perspective and such a balances take! I agree with so much of what you said here. The last note on TJR is, unfortunately, not the case. She has been outright asked in interviews about Latina readers' concerns and has brushed those concerns aside. Reading her response to concern and criticism in those interviews is what made me decide not to read the book myself.
@@PlantBasedBride Thank you for more insight into her comments. That is really unfortunate to hear. As someone who doesn't have personal knowledge she should be open to learning from those that do.
as someone with chronic pain, Sam’s portrayal was incredibly surprising, I am not sure if the author is familiar with the symptoms, but I felt deeply represented and less alone, in a sense, being an audiovisual creator myself too I hope to find more books that talk about Chronic Pain in the future, as it is definitely one of the most common invisible disabilities out there ):
I’m so glad to know from multiple of these comments that the representation of chronic pain and living as an amputee are accurate, though I am so sad to know how many people live with invisible pain every single day ❤️
Hey! I know Talia Hibbert’s book Get A Life, Chloe Brown has chronic pain rep with a lead character with fibromyalgia and All’s Well by Mona Awad (I think) has chronic back pain. You may have already read these but thought I’s bring them up anyway!
I'm amazed by the amount of books you read and I really like the fact that you call a spade a spade and recommend NOT to read the bigot and harmful ones. Thanks a lot 📚♥️
a video like this must take so much time to make & edit, but i really appreciate it!! feels like i'm sitting down with you with a cup of tea to chat about books 📚 your reviews are always so informative & concise. and i'm so glad i dodged the Hidden Pictures bullet. my god when i heard about the stuff that was in it i could not believe it. thank you for talking about it as well 💖
I only recently started reading TJR for my book clubs and Seven Husbands was my favorite book last year. As someone born and raised in Ecuador I really enjoyed seeing such a popular book have a Latina protagonist! I haven’t read Carrie Soto yet but if the main character is anything like Evelyn Hugo, I think it offers great insight into the Latinx experience, especially those that are trying to make it in certain fields (acting for Evelyn, tennis for Carrie) and as an artist myself, I’m always thinking about how my identity is tied to my aspirations and what it means to see more diversity in these fields. I can totally empathize with the fear that it’s a white author trying to appropriate another culture, but given how much I loved how Evelyn’s character was written I would actually love to see if I feel the same about Carrie Soto!
I would love to hear your thoughts if you get around to it! I always appreciate hearing more perspectives. I loved Evelyn Hugo and didn’t notice any issues with the representation, but I’m not Latina so that’s not saying much 😅❤️
I'm from Brazil, born and raise, and I have 1001 problems with TJR, none of them are regarding representation. 😂 I really don't care that she wrote latina characters, they all felt like regular real people and she's super successful here, never heard anyone complaining about her in this sense.
@@PlantBasedBride but brazilians are latin americans too! I'm so late to be answering this, but I couldn’t resist lol TJR is BIG here, and my problem with that isn't her interest in writing latine characters, but how overrated her books are, imo
You may be interested in the fact that a bunch of booktubers recently released a project they did called 10 Years of Goodreads Choice Awards winners. There is a playlist. They each took one of the categories and read the last 10 years of winners. So it's a lot of videos but really interesting.
I'm currently reading Tomorrow, and Tomorrow, and Tomorrow and I'm absolutely loving it! Also I read, and loved, and cried reading The Final Gambit and now that you said such amazing things about Gallant I can't wait to buy it and read it! Thank you so very much!
I really love your reviews and trust you as a reader. There are books we've both read that we've rated differently (e.g. What Moves the Dead was a five-star for me!), but I typically know when you give something one star I can trust it's because it's either really harmful in its depictions of certain people, or really poorly written. I think the 3-5 star range can be really a lot more about personal taste but you've never steered me wrong on ones to stay away from whilst also being incredibly transparent about your personal preferences guiding some of your higher ratings, which is exactly how it should be! I am doing a genre reading challenge in my work book club this year and we started with Fantasy, because that was the most popular. We chose a book I'd never have chosen on my own, and I think there's something so valuable about that, which is why I love it when you do this challenge. :)
This is the first video of yours I've stumbled upon, and I have to thank you for your discourse on The Maid! I haven't read it either myself, but as an autistic adult I want to express my gratitude that you brought this issue up and examined it in such a genuine and intelligent way.
YASSSS! LEGENDS AND LATTES! My boyfriend got me that book for Christmas 2022 and I'm so excited to read it as I love a good warm slice of life book. Plus I love DnD so bonus! So glad to hear it got 5 stars from you
Your response to the issues with Taylor Jenkins Reid confirmed for me that you absolutely need to read Yellowface by RF Kuang. It doesn't release until the end of May, though ARCs are circulating right now, but it addresses this issue precisely. I'm a quarter of the way through my ARC and it's an incredible book that exposes some of the worst sides of the publishing industry.
I totally agree that the idea that you have to love yourself to form deep connections with others is super harmful and gate-keeping. It always felt to me like saying, "if you have low self-esteem you don't deserve love." and I'm like... eww. No. Work to love yourself, but if you want romance, you should not have to put that away on a back shelf until you work through your shit.
Yes yes yes!! I was not in a good place with my self esteem when I met my husband, and his unfailing love for me despite my many flaws helped me SO MUCH to learn to truly love myself (it’s still a journey, of course, but it’s staggering how far I’ve come) ❤️ everyone deserves to be loved no matter how much they may struggle with self love!
As a Mexican-American who did read Carrie Soto, I can say you're really not missing much. Besides it being harmful, overly stereotypical, and also just...bland representation, the story itself doesn't match the quality of TJR's other works (many of which I have enjoyed.) I am really hoping she takes in some of the feedback going forward.
I’m disappointed but not surprised to hear that. Thanks for sharing your experience with it, Ava! I really hope she does, as well. She has a lot of potential as an author but her stubbornness/willful ignorance in this area is a big red flag.
I wasn't planning on engaging with internet trolls on here-I was simply affirming Elizabeth's choice not to read Carrie Soto. But since y'all keep commenting on this I'll just say this: 1) if someone says there is harmful rep, it's not for you to tell them they're wrong. You don't get to invalidate feelings or opinions even if you disagree with them. 2) TJR has a history of harmful rep toward the latin@ community as a whole, this isn't just about Carrie Soto and you don't have to be argentine to recognize it. 3) Since when is it impossible for there to be representation without stereotypes? That's the weirdest take I've seen yet. 4) The only thing I am a "victim" of is wasted time with a mediocre book. Anyway, I hope you all find something more fulfilling to do with your time than to defend a bestselling author's very mid book. No one is stopping you from reading and enjoying it, so you might want to think about why it's so upsetting to you that a stranger on the internet happened to have a different experience with it.
As a latina, it doesn't bother me that she writes about a main protagonist that's latina and she isn't. I've read my share of latina writers and I also find that they also depict their main character stereotypically and don't care for it . Btw Love your video !
That’s so interesting to hear that Latina writers do the same thing. I wonder why they would resort to stereotypes as well? It must be so frustrating to read!
@@PlantBasedBride extremely frustrating. The best rep I've found so far in Latino writers and especially as a Dominican is Junot Diaz The Brief and Wonderous life of Oscar Wao. NOW THAT is not only accurate, relatable, but also the writing is phenomenal. Books like Dominicana I HAD to DNF. It wasnt accurate, it was poorly written and it was sooooo stereotypical it made me nauseous.
I haven’t commented on a video in a while but oh man! I have a copy of The Maid and I’m so surprised it won Best Mystery?! I found myself soo frustrated with how Molly’s personality and interactions were portrayed. Maybe the author meant for “shy, awkward girl” but the book didn’t reflect that. At all. And I tend to get invested in main characters so the way the other characters interacted with her made me mad, lol. I agree with your thoughts 100%! All in all it was also predictable and I honestly could’ve bought something else.
I'm agreeing with all your takes! Particularly if I find out a book belongs to a series, I cannot get behind catching up just to read it. That being said: Heartstopper
Ok I adore SJM. Her books actually got me into reading and I’ll forever adore her for that… BUT. I could hardly make it through CC. And I only saw people rave about it. But good Lord it was too long 😩 so thank you for giving me a safe space to share that! Lol
I have watched and looked forward to your videos for some time now, and I am so honestly greateful for your content :) I do not always agree with your oppinion but I do always agree with your reasoning. That is so interesting to me. You have become a reference for me when looking for a new book to read. Thank you!! I hope you continue to do these videos, they are a very valuable contribution to our culture.
Oh I love this! We all have different preferences/interpretations when it comes to books but I’m glad I’m able to express mine in a way that helps you get an impression of whether or not you’ll enjoy it despite our differences ❤️
I'm latina and when I read Evelyn Hugo, I loved it (nowadays, not so much, but due to personal reasons), and to be honest, while I read the book and specially now, a few years later, I keep forgetting that Evelyn is cuban. I didn't read Carrie Soto nor am I going to, but honestly I wasn't even aware Carrie was meant to be latina
📚📖I would totally recommend Hannah Gadsby’s 10 Steps to Nanette. Even though you don’t read much in the Humor genre. Hannah has a truly unique perspective and Nanette was a really powerful show. I always love watching these videos with the GoodReads app open in my hand. I end up adding so many titles to my TBR!
Hi! I was born and raised in Argentina, which is the country Carrie Soto's dad is from in the book, so here is my opinion: Yes, she does seem to have a lot of latinx characters, but thats a thing i love about her books. Granted, she is not latina herself, but she's giving all these latina characters life in her books, and in a beautiful way too. I've seen so much ""representation"" (mostly in american shows like csi but in some books too) where those ficcional characters are 80% of the time: mixed skin, don't have a great english and are criminals of some kind. So, the first time I encountered some resemblance to my reality as a latina (in something so popular) was reading Carrie Soto is Back. Everything about her relationship with her dad, the way she has to fight even harder just because of where her family came from (even as a nepotism kid), changing her name to the "american version" of her actual name. You can really tell by these things that she either spoke to some latinx people or just investigated on the topic. Either way, she did a great job. I would love to see latinx people writing any type of book with representation and succeeding in the way TJR has, but until that happens, what? I find this belief that an artist (writer/actor) can only create a character with characteristics specific to their persona really dangerous. Because if all viral writers are straight, should we LGBT people not have some type of representation in them? Again, reading Carrie soto was the first time that I felt that sense of like home thinking about a character and their surroundings, but reading The 7 husbands of Evenlyn Hugo I could fantasize about actresses from my country (for for example maia reficco, born in texas but raised in argentina, where her parent's are from) playing her. I loved Carrie Soto, she had a great personality but made mistakes in a way I think all could relate, not only us latinxs. Her hardworking personality reminded me of myself and I really like the book despise not knowing a thing about tenis. I would hardly recommend because even if TJR had some weird response to the criticism, she is still helping in the ways I named before, even if she is doing it for her own selfish reasons.
Thank you for sharing your perspective! I’m glad you felt Carrie Soto was good representation. Of course, not all groups are monolithic and different people will see things differently, so I’m glad to hear another perspective. Your second paragraph, though, is a common misdirection in these conversations that grinds my gears. No one is saying that authors can’t write characters who don’t have their exact identities or experiences. All we want is for authors to do their research, be respectful, think about why they’re choosing to represent characters a certain way with a critical lens, listen to feedback from readers, employ sensitivity readers before publishing, and use other common-sense steps to reduce the number of poorly rendered characters. For example, I have no problem with male authors writing female protagonists or authors who are not bisexual writing bisexual characters, but when someone who is not a woman or bisexual is writing that character based on harmful stereotypes, for example: portraying a bisexual character as a cheater, greedy, or just experimenting before “choosing a side,” then I have a problem with it. If a straight author is writing a bisexual character who feels like a complete realistic person with flaws that isn’t just buying into harmful stereotypes, then I’m all for the representation!
@@PlantBasedBride I totally agree with this! Of course not every Argentine will feel as I felt, let alone all latinxs, but I find the way she did is still easy to relate even away from that specific Argentine-American perspective. I also want authors to do all that, so maybe I misunderstood and/or miscommunicated. And I find the case you used as an example really annoying and specially hurtful as a bisexual woman myself. So, yes, in those cases with harmful stereotypes I totally get the problem and I agree, I wouldn’t read any (that's what i wanted to say with the csi ""representation"" bit of my reply). But, in the case of TJR books I felt there was some investigation done (and it was well done imo) and the latinx characters were written from what feels like a respectful and knowing perspective. Thank you for responding and have a great day!
I was so baffled by the Maid winning. The only other nominees I read was The Night Shift, which was pretty good! I would compare it to Girl with the Dragon Tattoo; I like a more cozy and Agatha Christie-esque mystery personally but it was definitely enjoyable.
Appreciated the thumbs-up on Sea of Tranquility. Mine was one of the votes that put it in the top spot. So when it came time for the Hugo ballot, I was just really puzzled why it wasn't on there. At first I wondered if it was part of the hanky panky that went on with the award that year. No, she didn't say athing about China. This is how I learned the people who vote for the two awards come from different crowds. You would think there would have to be SOME overlap but apparently it's not enough to make a difference. I checked the top vote getters in the SF choice award for 2021 and it was the same thing. The top sf vote getters did not match the corresponding Hugo ballot. I encountered push-back when I was ranting about SoT's absence from the Hugoi ballot in sf discussion groups. The feeling seemed to be that it was a nice little book, an enjoyable enough read but "not worthy of a Hugo nomination." I am happy that you saw what I saw in it.
I'm a real one 📖... but full transparency; I watch on 1.25 or 1.50 speed LOL Looking forward to reading some of these, thanks for putting all the work in and sharing!
Really loved getting your input on the winners. I haven't read any of them but do have some on my TBR. I love that I can get an idea of where to put them priority-wise or to take them off altogether. Thank you for sharing! 📚
I don’t read a ton of lit fic but I absolutely loved tomorrow and tomorrow and tomorrow. I say the story really being about 3 friends who made a video game instead of just Sam and Sadie. I think it made me even more sad 😢
I always see the criticism coming from people who live in the US which is funny, from my experience as a latina living in latam (as well as pretty much every comment i see from people actually living here in the southern hemisphere) we love the inclusion of latino characters in novels! Even if they are not perfect it is better than not having anything i still get excited every time chile or argentina get mentioned in a book, and when the representation isn’t perfect we just laugh it off as a community that being said, you should definitely read carrie soto is back! it’s really enjoyable, and the argentinian representation is on point! (as his father is from Argentina) also, the book itself is good, has been my favorite TJR novel by far
I’m not American and I don’t know the nationality of all of those who were unhappy with the representation, but I am glad to hear another perspective. I’m not interested in reading it but I’m glad you enjoyed it!
At this point I could structure my TBR to be whatever you've given 5 stars, because we really do agree 100% of the time. I have been patiently waiting for Tomorrow and Tomorrow and Tomorrow to be available at my library because I've banned myself from buying more books this month, but I am extremely excited to dive into it as an avid gamer and with all the hype surrounding it! I love this series because I rarely branch out of my Sci-Fi/Fantasy/Speculative genres and getting an opinion from someone who also reads a lot in those categories has been a great way to carefully select some out of my comfort zone authors! Thank you for braving the Good Reads Pile of Surprises for us all, and for putting together such an informative video once again 💜
I can’t say I fully understand your issues with Taylor Jenkins Reid writing a book about a Latina. It is a fictional story. If we think about murder mysteries, should only murderers and criminals be the ones to write for that genre?
Aaah getting so many recommandations from this video ! I could almost be angry at you because I already have a never ending TBR. But I can't. I enjoy your bookish videos way too much. Thank you for this video ❤️📖
I really love your long videos especially videos with ranting😬😅 I understand it takes effort to film and edit it and I really appreciate it📚📑 your bookish videos are so cozy and calming♥️♥️
📖 I was hesitant to watch this video because my TBR list is already so long and while it did get longer after watching this, I wouldn't say that was a bad thing. I love how thorough you are in your reviews and I appreciate how you include potential triggers and the LGBTQIA representation. Definitely helps when I'm trying to figure out what next to read.
9:44 I found this interesting, I am autistic and have never read this book. I do think its not too big of a deal for someone to make an autistic character without calling them autistic since there are reasons and benefits to making a character autistic coded instead of naming them as autistic, but I do agree that if there is an autistic character it is important to make the character fully fleshed out and make a good representation of what autistic people ar eactually like but I haven't read the book so I'm not sure. also thank you for putting a warning for vomit in your warnings for the next book I have a crippling phobia of it and I am always on edge because people never put warnings so I appreciate it.
I don't love TJR writing but if she did the research, she should be able to write the perspective, not for us to say. Because we can't get mad at her for writing a Latina perspective but then be ok with a man writing a woman perspective. That's just my opinion though, everyone has their own.
Doing research doesn’t guarantee accurate and respectful representation, though. I stopped reading Riley Sager’s books a while back for a similar reason. He’s a man writing almost exclusively female protagonists and I have found his female characters to be built on stereotypes and under developed. After reading a few of his books I decided I was done reading female characters written by a man who clearly doesn’t understand them (or isn’t bothered representing them as full, complex humans). That’s just my perspective, though, and my personal reading decision (just like my personal decision to not read any more books written by TJR featuring Latina protagonists).
can someone explain to me why it matters that reid writes latina characters while not being latina? i think any artist should be allowed the creative freedom of any other media. no one would criticize a white painter for painting an asian woman. is it that the writing itself is insulting? i haven’t read these books so i’m really just looking for some clarification.
As I explained in the video, the problem is that she continues to write Latina protagonists, as in writing internal thoughts and lived experience of Latina women, without being one herself and that many Latina and Latino readers in have come out to say that the representation is inaccurate and harmful, based on stereotypes and not a true understanding of their experience and culture. She continues to ignore the concerns of the community she is claiming to want to represent, without being willing to learn and do better.
Great job. I will be a new follower to your channel. I appreciate your in-depth reviews because now I won’t bother with several of them. You had quite a challenge.
I wish more authors etc. would be dismissive of complaints like the author of your third category. Write whatever you want. If a gay man wants to write a story about a straight woman the only thing that should matter is whether the book is good. A white author can write about a Nigerian protagonist and an Asian author can write about a Native American protagonist. No one should care, it’s a non issue.
It is an issue if the representation is not accurate/is harmful/is based on stereotypes. Especially when we’re talking about representing those from marginalized groups. I refuse to read any more books written by Riley Sager because I’m not interested in poorly drawn female protagonists written by a man.
@@PlantBasedBride that was more or less my point. The only thing that matters should be whether the book is good. In your example, the books are bad because the guy writes poor female characters.
📖 thank you for the video I love hearing your thoughts on books that are recommended and books you thoroughly enjoyed. It always leaves me with an array of books to add to my tbr list
I’m Latino and haven’t read any Taylor Jenkins Reid and while I’ll admit I was excited to hear that Evelyn in her novel Seven Husbands is Cuban American (so am I) I was disheartened to hear it wasn’t handled well. I’ve also heard there’s significant anti-Blackness in Reid’s writing as well… Seven Husbands is still on my TBR simply because I’m curious about the discourse, but it remains to be seen if I’ll ever actually read it. I’m not gatekeeping characters, I totally think white authors can and should include Latino characters in their work, but they should do their research, hire Latino sensitivity readers, and accept feedback from the community when they get it wrong. If Reid can’t do that then she should stop writing characters of color. And if readers want to read about Latino characters, they should pick up books by Latino authors, particularly from the global south and not only the United States Latino perspective.
@@bookboxbabe I’m not Black so I can’t speak on it but Jesse from JesseOnUA-cam did an entire video on this subject if you would like to learn more: ua-cam.com/video/NbOD2GH1WuM/v-deo.html
@@bookboxbabe I wouldn’t necessarily call it anti-blackness but definitely highly ignorant. Specially her portrayal of the journalist in seven husbands of Evelyn Hugo and the use of a black man as shock device.
I’m latina (not Argentine but Brazilian) and I honestly don’t understand the issue with TJR writing latina characters. We adore her books in Brazil and I’ve never heard anyone complain about the representation here.
That’s great! I believe the concerns are being brought up by Latin American readers, as her characters are Latin American specifically. But again, I’m not part of the community so I’m no expert!
I couldn't agree more about the Fiction Winner. EVERYONE loves Legends and Lattes. I think that many times the popular writer gets votes without people reading the books. Thank you for sharing your thoughts. I enjoy the long video though I am sure "editing Elizabeth" is not so happy. :) 📚📖
@@PlantBasedBride You should treat Editing Elizabeth to a long nap and a sweet treat. She works hard! 🧁🛌 Have you read A Psalm for the Wild-Built by Becky Chambers? I think you would enjoy it. I'm currently reading the second in the series.
I laughed out loud when you described The Office as...a show. I also never got into The Office and have never felt the need to watch it; so, I understand not having a desire to read the book for the humor category. Life is short and there are way too many books. Great video; very entertaining.
Just found your channel. I’m half Cuban. I read 7 Husbands of Evelyn Hugo. I didn’t like it, but that’s because TJR is just not my cup of tea. It had NOTHING to do with how she portrayed a Cuban woman. If you want to read a book, read it!
I read Carrie Soto and I really enjoyed it. But I was not aware of the criticism TJR received for her misrepresentation of Latinos. I will have to look into that. Thanks for bringing this up because it's the first time I've heard someone mention it.
To say one can only write about their own experiences would essentially bring the publishing industry to a screeching halt. I don't see the same criticism levied at John Green, for example, who has a penchant for writing about teenage girls. How far does this extend precisely? Can one only write a murder mystery if they've murdered someone?
Of course authors don’t just have to write about their own experiences. But they should be putting in effort to properly represent the people they write about. I haven’t read any of John Green’s fiction so I have no idea if he does a good job writing teenage girls as full complex humans, but if he isn’t capable of that he should stop doing it. I stopped reading Riley Sager’s work because he is unable to write a female protagonist who feels real to me, and I’m uninterested in a man’s poor attempts to write the internal monologue of a woman. He can keep writing that way if he wants, and I’m sure he will, but I don’t have to read his work (and I won’t).
I enjoyed this video SOOOO MUCH. I am currently doing a very tedious job (from home at least) and your video totally was what I needed to pass my morning and now I have some books to check out. I am not a big non academic reader so is hard for me to pick books to read, now I have a nice list to check out and I know they will be good because I trust your opinion 🙌🏻
I loved Carrie Soto, I listened to the audio book. Thankfully I did not bring a lot of baggage to the story, I just listened. I rarely let others determine my enjoyment of a novel, especially when they didn’t bother to read it.
Listening to the group that is apparently being “represented” by a novel when they say they don’t feel represented and in fact find the representation harmful isn’t bringing “baggage” into it.
i actually have been part of good reads for 3 years or more and never have read any of the books that have been part of the best of in any category.... and yes I read. lol
Thanks for this. I just started it and her reasoning for giving it 1 star had nothing to do with the story, plot, or characters so this is what I was looking for lol
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I'm Latina and the only reason I'm not interested in reading Carrie Soto is because it's a sports book. There's this weird expectations on white authors to write diversity. But the moment they do write about other races they get criticized. I'm not talking about stereotypical characters, those are terrible, but we all have different experiences so no one is gonna write a character that represents a race/ethnicity as a whole.
Very well said 👏👏👏
Yes! Also, if we expected writers to write only about their own experiences that would be absurd. We would not have so many of great books that we do now.
As a Latina (born in Mexico, raised in the US), I loved it. Also, I didn’t even see this as a “Latina” book. It was more about a woman who is incredible ambitious and how ambitious women are viewed. If you like TJR books, please read this one as well.
Well as an actual Latina, who was born and raised in Argentina, I can tell you that the rep on this book was awsome. In fact, the spanished publisher who is from Buenos Aires helped Taylor with the quotes and the built of the characters. I have not seen a single problem with this book from people from Argentina. With respect, I find that people who don´t know about MY country should not be making this kind of commnets
I love the “actual latina”. More often than not, I see the ones who try to gatekeep what is latino representation and what isn’t are 3rd generation american-latinos. While we, actual latinas born and raised in Latin America, are just chill because we know being latino isn’t our only personality trait
@@thifanny7298 well that's your point of view and I agree with the first part. As for the last, I am going to speak if I see that I might know more about the experience of people from Latin America, that's not making it my "personality" 😅but actually speaking from a place of more knowledge
Lmfao of course as an Argentinian you are super defensive 😂 😂
hey! so as a half latina specifically argentinian i have very strong emotions about carrie soto is back. personally i adore tjr and i think her representation of a hispanic is fine because in this day and age ur dammed if you do and dammed if you don’t. secondly and more importantly a big complaint was that the spanish was wrong BUT it isn’t it’s just the argentinan dialect of spanish and slang i think the effort put in to put it accurately is appreciatable.
Being Venezuelan-American and having really liked Carrie Soto is back , I don’t understand why we feel the need to keep writers in the boxes that society has put them in (or were “born into”) this is so scary as it limits creators range and censors their own voice. Gaining insight into the Latino in America perspective is not very hard, there is so much information out there that I am sure TJR put to good use. If we can only read latin American characters from latin people then prepare for them to the disappear from the US market (based on a simple population % + lack of Latin American writers representation in the US market)
I loved Carrie Soto, she was a credible flawed character with bad ass skills, top notch work habits, and unapologetic attitude. despite a misogynistic society. Someone who even though was extremely successful needed to grow in other areas of her life (don’t we all).
This book inspired me to work harder on what I love to do and I highly recommend the ride!
i feel like a lot of the time authors don’t try and do research and just say the most stereotypical things at time for “relatability” or shock value
I'm Cuban-American and I agree.
In Tomorrow and Tomorrow and Tomorrow, there is a whole passage on this since they made the japanese game and were not japanese. About how representation matters for these groups and that if we were never allowed out of our "boxes" (ie: if white female authors can only write about white female authors), we do a great disservice to art, literature, etc
@@amandapretti2102 she did a good job you can really tell she did her research
I was about to disagree, but I think you're right. I was thinking that as mexican I wouldn't want an American writing about it. But as Chimamanda Ngozi Adichie said, there's a big difference between being half American and completely from other country. I just hope this won't make people look for American authors writing about the Latina experience, leaving actual Latinos without a voice
As an amputee, I really appreciated the accurate descriptions of chronic pain in Tomorrow and Tomorrow… what I personally didn’t enjoy was how his arc revolves around a girl. I would’ve preferred his arc revolved on self acceptance, but I’m just biased lol.
I’m glad to know the representation felt accurate ❤️ I agree about his arc being tied to Sadie, but I do appreciate that it was a friendship not a romance (despite the complicated feelings involved)
What arc means?
@@PlantBasedBride I got so annoyed when at the end they tried to awkwardly turn it into a love thing and I was like "no. stop it. leave it be."
I’m Cuban American and absolutely loved Evelyn Hugo. I can understand why other Cubans wouldn’t (we are not a monolith) but I’m personally more concerned with her characters feeling complex than being entirely accurate to their ethnic background.
That being said, you can absolutely tell TJR isn’t Latina by the way she writes her characters speaking Spanish. It was extremely noticeable in Carrie Soto because the way we communicate is not quite as simple as “random sentences in Spanish.” Spanglish often has regionalized but distinct grammar rules that are hard to replicate if you’re not intimately familiar with them.
I’m glad to know you enjoyed Evelyn Hugo as a Cuban American! And that’s a great point. I had read several criticisms of the Spanish in Carrie Soto which definitely added to the impression that the representation was not as accurate or well researched as we would hope.
I've said it before but I'll say it every time: it's so helpful to have a reviewer you trust give their honest opinion about these wildly popular books. If you're up for it I hope you do this every year! 📖
Aw I’m so glad! I always find it interesting so I’m sure I’ll keep doing it ❤️
Interesting to hear your reasoning behind not reading Carrie Soto is Back.
As a LatinX women I didn't find the character of Carrie Soto to be stereotypical, but I'm not of Argentinian/Latin American descent, so that could be why.
I have read The Seven Husbands of Evelyn Hugo and as a Cuban American, I can say that I didn't find the representation of Evelyn Hugo to be stereotypical either. I actually found it interesting and fairly accurate that the author would write about a LatinX individual trying to assimilate to American culture and trying to "pass" as caucasian during that time. From what I know about the experience of my grandparents/parents as immigrants to the US, this happened frequently during that time.
Given the diversity within the LatinX/Hispanic communities, it would likely be impossible to write a character that pleased everyone.
I also think the intent of the story/the characters story arc need to be taken into account. This author isn't writing a story focused on a first generation Argentinian-American discovering the balance between her ethnic heritage and American culture. A story like that would probably be best coming from a LatinX author, someone with personal knowledge of that experience. CSIB and TSHOEH are focused on different facets of those characters, they discuss their heritage, but it isn't the focus of the story the author is trying to tell.
I agree that if writing outside of personal experience there needs to be appropriate research done and care taken, but I think at the end of the day, every LatinX/Hispanic individual is going to have a different opinion after reading CSIB and no one opinion or group of opinions can be considered "right" or "wrong."
Disappointed to hear that readers feels the author has been dismissive of criticism of her writing of LatinX characters, but at the same time, maybe she has been listening to individuals who feels she's appropriately/accurately writing them. Not everyone can be pleased.
Thank you for sharing your perspective and such a balances take! I agree with so much of what you said here. The last note on TJR is, unfortunately, not the case. She has been outright asked in interviews about Latina readers' concerns and has brushed those concerns aside. Reading her response to concern and criticism in those interviews is what made me decide not to read the book myself.
@@PlantBasedBride Thank you for more insight into her comments. That is really unfortunate to hear. As someone who doesn't have personal knowledge she should be open to learning from those that do.
as someone with chronic pain, Sam’s portrayal was incredibly surprising, I am not sure if the author is familiar with the symptoms, but I felt deeply represented and less alone, in a sense, being an audiovisual creator myself too
I hope to find more books that talk about Chronic Pain in the future, as it is definitely one of the most common invisible disabilities out there ):
I’m so glad to know from multiple of these comments that the representation of chronic pain and living as an amputee are accurate, though I am so sad to know how many people live with invisible pain every single day ❤️
@@PlantBasedBride it’s not talked about it enough, that’s for sure 🥲
Hey! I know Talia Hibbert’s book Get A Life, Chloe Brown has chronic pain rep with a lead character with fibromyalgia and All’s Well by Mona Awad (I think) has chronic back pain. You may have already read these but thought I’s bring them up anyway!
@@RiffyRaf tysm for recommending! I did know about Chloe brown, but not about “all’s well”! I will look into it too 💛
These long book videos are my favourite. Love listening to these! 📚 📕 📖
Mine too! I love a good long bookish video to have on in the background ❤
I'm amazed by the amount of books you read and I really like the fact that you call a spade a spade and recommend NOT to read the bigot and harmful ones. Thanks a lot 📚♥️
I definitely think it’s important to explicitly say why these books are harmful! And thank you ❤️❤️
a video like this must take so much time to make & edit, but i really appreciate it!! feels like i'm sitting down with you with a cup of tea to chat about books 📚 your reviews are always so informative & concise. and i'm so glad i dodged the Hidden Pictures bullet. my god when i heard about the stuff that was in it i could not believe it. thank you for talking about it as well 💖
Aw I’m so glad! That’s exactly what I hope these videos feel like ❤️ and yes, I was shocked, too!
I only recently started reading TJR for my book clubs and Seven Husbands was my favorite book last year. As someone born and raised in Ecuador I really enjoyed seeing such a popular book have a Latina protagonist! I haven’t read Carrie Soto yet but if the main character is anything like Evelyn Hugo, I think it offers great insight into the Latinx experience, especially those that are trying to make it in certain fields (acting for Evelyn, tennis for Carrie) and as an artist myself, I’m always thinking about how my identity is tied to my aspirations and what it means to see more diversity in these fields. I can totally empathize with the fear that it’s a white author trying to appropriate another culture, but given how much I loved how Evelyn’s character was written I would actually love to see if I feel the same about Carrie Soto!
I would love to hear your thoughts if you get around to it! I always appreciate hearing more perspectives. I loved Evelyn Hugo and didn’t notice any issues with the representation, but I’m not Latina so that’s not saying much 😅❤️
Really appreciate the way you approached the challenge this year, considering every option, giving feedback, while maintaining some boundaries
Thank you! That’s kind of you to say ❤️❤️
I'm from Brazil, born and raise, and I have 1001 problems with TJR, none of them are regarding representation. 😂 I really don't care that she wrote latina characters, they all felt like regular real people and she's super successful here, never heard anyone complaining about her in this sense.
I believe it’s Latin American readers specifically who have raised concerns!
@@PlantBasedBride but brazilians are latin americans too! I'm so late to be answering this, but I couldn’t resist lol TJR is BIG here, and my problem with that isn't her interest in writing latine characters, but how overrated her books are, imo
You may be interested in the fact that a bunch of booktubers recently released a project they did called 10 Years of Goodreads Choice Awards winners. There is a playlist. They each took one of the categories and read the last 10 years of winners. So it's a lot of videos but really interesting.
Oh how interesting! I hadn’t heard about this. What a great idea!
Just wanted to say how much I appreciate you saying Latino and Latina vs Latinx. It made me smile so much.
I’m always trying to learn how to use language in more respectful and inclusive ways! Just doing my best ❤️
The commitment to reading all these is so impressive!!📖📚📖
Thank you! There were a couple I skipped but I read the vast majority 😅❤️
I'm currently reading Tomorrow, and Tomorrow, and Tomorrow and I'm absolutely loving it! Also I read, and loved, and cried reading The Final Gambit and now that you said such amazing things about Gallant I can't wait to buy it and read it! Thank you so very much!
I really love your reviews and trust you as a reader. There are books we've both read that we've rated differently (e.g. What Moves the Dead was a five-star for me!), but I typically know when you give something one star I can trust it's because it's either really harmful in its depictions of certain people, or really poorly written. I think the 3-5 star range can be really a lot more about personal taste but you've never steered me wrong on ones to stay away from whilst also being incredibly transparent about your personal preferences guiding some of your higher ratings, which is exactly how it should be!
I am doing a genre reading challenge in my work book club this year and we started with Fantasy, because that was the most popular. We chose a book I'd never have chosen on my own, and I think there's something so valuable about that, which is why I love it when you do this challenge. :)
Oh thank you! That means a lot. I definitely agree ratings from 3 to 5 have so much to do with personal preference from one reader to another!
This is the first video of yours I've stumbled upon, and I have to thank you for your discourse on The Maid! I haven't read it either myself, but as an autistic adult I want to express my gratitude that you brought this issue up and examined it in such a genuine and intelligent way.
Thank you, I really appreciate that. I’m always trying my best to read more critically and examine how characters are being represented ❤️
Our wives under the sea was such a treat to read, so weird, so creepy and yet..romantic in a way?
Yes exactly! Just so interesting and unique ❤️
📖📕 I'm actually decreasing my goal for reading from 50 to 30 so I can focus more on ones I like. Love hearing your thoughts on these!
I decreased my goal this year, too ❤️ next step is learning to DNF when I’m not enjoying a book!
YASSSS! LEGENDS AND LATTES! My boyfriend got me that book for Christmas 2022 and I'm so excited to read it as I love a good warm slice of life book. Plus I love DnD so bonus! So glad to hear it got 5 stars from you
It’s so so good! I hope you adore it 🥰
Your response to the issues with Taylor Jenkins Reid confirmed for me that you absolutely need to read Yellowface by RF Kuang. It doesn't release until the end of May, though ARCs are circulating right now, but it addresses this issue precisely. I'm a quarter of the way through my ARC and it's an incredible book that exposes some of the worst sides of the publishing industry.
I came here to recommend this too!
Thank you for the suggestion! I remember seeing the cover for it but I knew it hadn’t been published yet. I’ll definitely add it to my TBR!
Thank you for talking about Hidden Pictures in this way!! It was on my TBR, glad I could remove it without losing any time on it.
You’re so welcome! I don’t want anyone to waste time on it or be hurt by it.
I totally agree that the idea that you have to love yourself to form deep connections with others is super harmful and gate-keeping. It always felt to me like saying, "if you have low self-esteem you don't deserve love." and I'm like... eww. No. Work to love yourself, but if you want romance, you should not have to put that away on a back shelf until you work through your shit.
Yes yes yes!! I was not in a good place with my self esteem when I met my husband, and his unfailing love for me despite my many flaws helped me SO MUCH to learn to truly love myself (it’s still a journey, of course, but it’s staggering how far I’ve come) ❤️ everyone deserves to be loved no matter how much they may struggle with self love!
Yeah it seems like I'm always going to keep learning things about myself
As a Mexican-American who did read Carrie Soto, I can say you're really not missing much. Besides it being harmful, overly stereotypical, and also just...bland representation, the story itself doesn't match the quality of TJR's other works (many of which I have enjoyed.) I am really hoping she takes in some of the feedback going forward.
I’m disappointed but not surprised to hear that. Thanks for sharing your experience with it, Ava! I really hope she does, as well. She has a lot of potential as an author but her stubbornness/willful ignorance in this area is a big red flag.
what stereotypes? I havent read the book but I am curious /gen
@@e-todlonghair2856 there’s no stereotypes actually.
I've read 6 TJR books and loved them all, but Carrie Soto was definitely my least favourite
I wasn't planning on engaging with internet trolls on here-I was simply affirming Elizabeth's choice not to read Carrie Soto. But since y'all keep commenting on this I'll just say this: 1) if someone says there is harmful rep, it's not for you to tell them they're wrong. You don't get to invalidate feelings or opinions even if you disagree with them. 2) TJR has a history of harmful rep toward the latin@ community as a whole, this isn't just about Carrie Soto and you don't have to be argentine to recognize it. 3) Since when is it impossible for there to be representation without stereotypes? That's the weirdest take I've seen yet. 4) The only thing I am a "victim" of is wasted time with a mediocre book. Anyway, I hope you all find something more fulfilling to do with your time than to defend a bestselling author's very mid book. No one is stopping you from reading and enjoying it, so you might want to think about why it's so upsetting to you that a stranger on the internet happened to have a different experience with it.
THAT chapter in Tomorrow and Tomorrow and Tomorrow had me sobbing! The way Zevin crafted that was beautiful
So so beautiful 😭 I was a mess
"NPC" was one of the greatest chapters ever.
As a latina, it doesn't bother me that she writes about a main protagonist that's latina and she isn't. I've read my share of latina writers and I also find that they also depict their main character stereotypically and don't care for it . Btw Love your video !
That’s so interesting to hear that Latina writers do the same thing. I wonder why they would resort to stereotypes as well? It must be so frustrating to read!
@@PlantBasedBride extremely frustrating. The best rep I've found so far in Latino writers and especially as a Dominican is Junot Diaz The Brief and Wonderous life of Oscar Wao. NOW THAT is not only accurate, relatable, but also the writing is phenomenal. Books like Dominicana I HAD to DNF. It wasnt accurate, it was poorly written and it was sooooo stereotypical it made me nauseous.
I haven’t commented on a video in a while but oh man! I have a copy of The Maid and I’m so surprised it won Best Mystery?! I found myself soo frustrated with how Molly’s personality and interactions were portrayed. Maybe the author meant for “shy, awkward girl” but the book didn’t reflect that. At all. And I tend to get invested in main characters so the way the other characters interacted with her made me mad, lol. I agree with your thoughts 100%! All in all it was also predictable and I honestly could’ve bought something else.
Lol I can relate 😂 I was so frustrated at how she was portrayed and how the other characters interacted with her!
I felt like I read a children's book lol
I'm glad my mom died is actually best on Audiobook! Jennette voice it herself and it was just both jarring and captivating that way
I'm agreeing with all your takes! Particularly if I find out a book belongs to a series, I cannot get behind catching up just to read it. That being said: Heartstopper
Ok I adore SJM. Her books actually got me into reading and I’ll forever adore her for that… BUT. I could hardly make it through CC. And I only saw people rave about it. But good Lord it was too long 😩 so thank you for giving me a safe space to share that! Lol
I love spending time with the long videos, it feels like a coffee with a good friend. Thank you for that
Aw I’m so glad 🥺 sitting down to film these always feels like catching up with my bookworm friends, too! 🥰
Love these types of videos. Honestly, I could listen to you read your grocery list. A lot of your 5 stars are on my TBR for this year. 📚📕📖
Haha aw thank you! 😂❤️
I have watched and looked forward to your videos for some time now, and I am so honestly greateful for your content :) I do not always agree with your oppinion but I do always agree with your reasoning. That is so interesting to me. You have become a reference for me when looking for a new book to read. Thank you!! I hope you continue to do these videos, they are a very valuable contribution to our culture.
Oh I love this! We all have different preferences/interpretations when it comes to books but I’m glad I’m able to express mine in a way that helps you get an impression of whether or not you’ll enjoy it despite our differences ❤️
I'm latina and when I read Evelyn Hugo, I loved it (nowadays, not so much, but due to personal reasons), and to be honest, while I read the book and specially now, a few years later, I keep forgetting that Evelyn is cuban. I didn't read Carrie Soto nor am I going to, but honestly I wasn't even aware Carrie was meant to be latina
📚📖I would totally recommend Hannah Gadsby’s 10 Steps to Nanette. Even though you don’t read much in the Humor genre. Hannah has a truly unique perspective and Nanette was a really powerful show.
I always love watching these videos with the GoodReads app open in my hand. I end up adding so many titles to my TBR!
I’m not familiar with Gadsby but I’ll look into it! ❤️
Love your videos, not over the top and just feels like a conversation with a friend.
100% agree about Lessons in Chemistry which I read on a whim and will continue to re-read.
Hi! I was born and raised in Argentina, which is the country Carrie Soto's dad is from in the book, so here is my opinion: Yes, she does seem to have a lot of latinx characters, but thats a thing i love about her books. Granted, she is not latina herself, but she's giving all these latina characters life in her books, and in a beautiful way too. I've seen so much ""representation"" (mostly in american shows like csi but in some books too) where those ficcional characters are 80% of the time: mixed skin, don't have a great english and are criminals of some kind. So, the first time I encountered some resemblance to my reality as a latina (in something so popular) was reading Carrie Soto is Back. Everything about her relationship with her dad, the way she has to fight even harder just because of where her family came from (even as a nepotism kid), changing her name to the "american version" of her actual name. You can really tell by these things that she either spoke to some latinx people or just investigated on the topic. Either way, she did a great job.
I would love to see latinx people writing any type of book with representation and succeeding in the way TJR has, but until that happens, what? I find this belief that an artist (writer/actor) can only create a character with characteristics specific to their persona really dangerous. Because if all viral writers are straight, should we LGBT people not have some type of representation in them? Again, reading Carrie soto was the first time that I felt that sense of like home thinking about a character and their surroundings, but reading The 7 husbands of Evenlyn Hugo I could fantasize about actresses from my country (for for example maia reficco, born in texas but raised in argentina, where her parent's are from) playing her.
I loved Carrie Soto, she had a great personality but made mistakes in a way I think all could relate, not only us latinxs. Her hardworking personality reminded me of myself and I really like the book despise not knowing a thing about tenis. I would hardly recommend because even if TJR had some weird response to the criticism, she is still helping in the ways I named before, even if she is doing it for her own selfish reasons.
Thank you for sharing your perspective! I’m glad you felt Carrie Soto was good representation. Of course, not all groups are monolithic and different people will see things differently, so I’m glad to hear another perspective.
Your second paragraph, though, is a common misdirection in these conversations that grinds my gears. No one is saying that authors can’t write characters who don’t have their exact identities or experiences. All we want is for authors to do their research, be respectful, think about why they’re choosing to represent characters a certain way with a critical lens, listen to feedback from readers, employ sensitivity readers before publishing, and use other common-sense steps to reduce the number of poorly rendered characters.
For example, I have no problem with male authors writing female protagonists or authors who are not bisexual writing bisexual characters, but when someone who is not a woman or bisexual is writing that character based on harmful stereotypes, for example: portraying a bisexual character as a cheater, greedy, or just experimenting before “choosing a side,” then I have a problem with it. If a straight author is writing a bisexual character who feels like a complete realistic person with flaws that isn’t just buying into harmful stereotypes, then I’m all for the representation!
@@PlantBasedBride I totally agree with this! Of course not every Argentine will feel as I felt, let alone all latinxs, but I find the way she did is still easy to relate even away from that specific Argentine-American perspective.
I also want authors to do all that, so maybe I misunderstood and/or miscommunicated. And I find the case you used as an example really annoying and specially hurtful as a bisexual woman myself. So, yes, in those cases with harmful stereotypes I totally get the problem and I agree, I wouldn’t read any (that's what i wanted to say with the csi ""representation"" bit of my reply). But, in the case of TJR books I felt there was some investigation done (and it was well done imo) and the latinx characters were written from what feels like a respectful and knowing perspective.
Thank you for responding and have a great day!
I really enjoy this style and type of video!! Thank you for taking the time to so elaborately chat about the books you have read, such cozy vibes🥰
Oh thank you! I’m glad this video gave cozy vibes ❤️
I was so baffled by the Maid winning. The only other nominees I read was The Night Shift, which was pretty good! I would compare it to Girl with the Dragon Tattoo; I like a more cozy and Agatha Christie-esque mystery personally but it was definitely enjoyable.
Appreciated the thumbs-up on Sea of Tranquility. Mine was one of the votes that put it in the top spot. So when it came time for the Hugo ballot, I was just really puzzled why it wasn't on there. At first I wondered if it was part of the hanky panky that went on with the award that year. No, she didn't say athing about China. This is how I learned the people who vote for the two awards come from different crowds. You would think there would have to be SOME overlap but apparently it's not enough to make a difference. I checked the top vote getters in the SF choice award for 2021 and it was the same thing. The top sf vote getters did not match the corresponding Hugo ballot. I encountered push-back when I was ranting about SoT's absence from the Hugoi ballot in sf discussion groups. The feeling seemed to be that it was a nice little book, an enjoyable enough read but "not worthy of a Hugo nomination." I am happy that you saw what I saw in it.
I'm a real one 📖... but full transparency; I watch on 1.25 or 1.50 speed LOL
Looking forward to reading some of these, thanks for putting all the work in and sharing!
Lol I watch all videos at 1.5x speed at least, and listen to most audiobooks at 2.5x, so no judgement here 😂
Really loved getting your input on the winners. I haven't read any of them but do have some on my TBR. I love that I can get an idea of where to put them priority-wise or to take them off altogether. Thank you for sharing! 📚
and I appreciate you for making a long book-talk video. thank you📚
I don’t read a ton of lit fic but I absolutely loved tomorrow and tomorrow and tomorrow. I say the story really being about 3 friends who made a video game instead of just Sam and Sadie. I think it made me even more sad 😢
I always see the criticism coming from people who live in the US which is funny, from my experience as a latina living in latam (as well as pretty much every comment i see from people actually living here in the southern hemisphere) we love the inclusion of latino characters in novels! Even if they are not perfect it is better than not having anything
i still get excited every time chile or argentina get mentioned in a book, and when the representation isn’t perfect we just laugh it off as a community
that being said, you should definitely read carrie soto is back! it’s really enjoyable, and the argentinian representation is on point! (as his father is from Argentina) also, the book itself is good, has been my favorite TJR novel by far
I’m not American and I don’t know the nationality of all of those who were unhappy with the representation, but I am glad to hear another perspective. I’m not interested in reading it but I’m glad you enjoyed it!
Your criticism of The Maid was identical to me. Thank you
I really enjoy listening to you. The perfect blend to get work down and still hear about books
I'm so glad❤️
At this point I could structure my TBR to be whatever you've given 5 stars, because we really do agree 100% of the time. I have been patiently waiting for Tomorrow and Tomorrow and Tomorrow to be available at my library because I've banned myself from buying more books this month, but I am extremely excited to dive into it as an avid gamer and with all the hype surrounding it!
I love this series because I rarely branch out of my Sci-Fi/Fantasy/Speculative genres and getting an opinion from someone who also reads a lot in those categories has been a great way to carefully select some out of my comfort zone authors!
Thank you for braving the Good Reads Pile of Surprises for us all, and for putting together such an informative video once again 💜
Haha aw thank you! ❤❤
you finally convinced me to make a profile in goodreads! i'm adding the world we became to my TBR 📖
Oo I hope you love it! Make sure to read the City We Became first ❤️
Every year I look forward to this video, and every year you don’t disappoint. Thanks for the review! 📖📚
Haha aw thanks! 🥰
I’m mexican and I don’t have any problem with Taylor Jenkins Reid characters, actually I love all her books ❤
I can’t say I fully understand your issues with Taylor Jenkins Reid writing a book about a Latina. It is a fictional story.
If we think about murder mysteries, should only murderers and criminals be the ones to write for that genre?
Hidden Pictures was on my TBR and I’m so glad I saw this review before purchasing.
I’m glad I could help you avoid it!
📖 I loved Legends & Lattes so much
If you enjoyed Station Eleven I think you’ll really like Sea of Tranquility! They have quite a few similarities but SoT was the better book, imho ❤️
I want to second Sea of Tranquility. It was so different, I loved it.
Watching this made me add some books to my "I wanna buy it / read it" list 😳
Thanks for those vidéos !
Aaah getting so many recommandations from this video ! I could almost be angry at you because I already have a never ending TBR. But I can't. I enjoy your bookish videos way too much. Thank you for this video ❤️📖
Aw haha sorry (but also not) 😂 I hope you love any of the books you pick up on my recommendation! ❤️❤️
I really love your long videos especially videos with ranting😬😅 I understand it takes effort to film and edit it and I really appreciate it📚📑 your bookish videos are so cozy and calming♥️♥️
Aw thank you! 🥰
📖 I was hesitant to watch this video because my TBR list is already so long and while it did get longer after watching this, I wouldn't say that was a bad thing. I love how thorough you are in your reviews and I appreciate how you include potential triggers and the LGBTQIA representation. Definitely helps when I'm trying to figure out what next to read.
I’m so glad you enjoyed it, even if I did add a bit to your ever-growing TBR 😅❤️
9:44 I found this interesting, I am autistic and have never read this book. I do think its not too big of a deal for someone to make an autistic character without calling them autistic since there are reasons and benefits to making a character autistic coded instead of naming them as autistic, but I do agree that if there is an autistic character it is important to make the character fully fleshed out and make a good representation of what autistic people ar eactually like but I haven't read the book so I'm not sure.
also thank you for putting a warning for vomit in your warnings for the next book I have a crippling phobia of it and I am always on edge because people never put warnings so I appreciate it.
This is my favorite video of yours! Thank yo u for doing it again! ❤️📚❤
You're so welcome! I love making these, too 🥰
I don't love TJR writing but if she did the research, she should be able to write the perspective, not for us to say. Because we can't get mad at her for writing a Latina perspective but then be ok with a man writing a woman perspective. That's just my opinion though, everyone has their own.
Doing research doesn’t guarantee accurate and respectful representation, though. I stopped reading Riley Sager’s books a while back for a similar reason. He’s a man writing almost exclusively female protagonists and I have found his female characters to be built on stereotypes and under developed. After reading a few of his books I decided I was done reading female characters written by a man who clearly doesn’t understand them (or isn’t bothered representing them as full, complex humans). That’s just my perspective, though, and my personal reading decision (just like my personal decision to not read any more books written by TJR featuring Latina protagonists).
can someone explain to me why it matters that reid writes latina characters while not being latina? i think any artist should be allowed the creative freedom of any other media. no one would criticize a white painter for painting an asian woman. is it that the writing itself is insulting? i haven’t read these books so i’m really just looking for some clarification.
As I explained in the video, the problem is that she continues to write Latina protagonists, as in writing internal thoughts and lived experience of Latina women, without being one herself and that many Latina and Latino readers in have come out to say that the representation is inaccurate and harmful, based on stereotypes and not a true understanding of their experience and culture. She continues to ignore the concerns of the community she is claiming to want to represent, without being willing to learn and do better.
And just like that my TBR list has grown! 😅😅😅😅 thanks Elizabeth for yet another bookish video! I was waiting for it and it was awesome!
Haha sorry (but not really) 😂 ❤️❤️
Great job. I will be a new follower to your channel. I appreciate your in-depth reviews because now I won’t bother with several of them. You had quite a challenge.
Welcome and thank you 🥰
I wish more authors etc. would be dismissive of complaints like the author of your third category. Write whatever you want. If a gay man wants to write a story about a straight woman the only thing that should matter is whether the book is good. A white author can write about a Nigerian protagonist and an Asian author can write about a Native American protagonist. No one should care, it’s a non issue.
It is an issue if the representation is not accurate/is harmful/is based on stereotypes. Especially when we’re talking about representing those from marginalized groups. I refuse to read any more books written by Riley Sager because I’m not interested in poorly drawn female protagonists written by a man.
@@PlantBasedBride that was more or less my point. The only thing that matters should be whether the book is good. In your example, the books are bad because the guy writes poor female characters.
I love watching your book reviews! I always discover very interesting books to add to my reading list 📚
I'm so glad!
📖 thank you for the video I love hearing your thoughts on books that are recommended and books you thoroughly enjoyed. It always leaves me with an array of books to add to my tbr list
Based on your take on Hidden Pictures alone, I feel that I can trust you. I was baffled by any positive reviews of this book.
Truly baffled and horrified by its popularity.
I appreciate your comment on TJR
I’m Latino and haven’t read any Taylor Jenkins Reid and while I’ll admit I was excited to hear that Evelyn in her novel Seven Husbands is Cuban American (so am I) I was disheartened to hear it wasn’t handled well. I’ve also heard there’s significant anti-Blackness in Reid’s writing as well… Seven Husbands is still on my TBR simply because I’m curious about the discourse, but it remains to be seen if I’ll ever actually read it. I’m not gatekeeping characters, I totally think white authors can and should include Latino characters in their work, but they should do their research, hire Latino sensitivity readers, and accept feedback from the community when they get it wrong. If Reid can’t do that then she should stop writing characters of color. And if readers want to read about Latino characters, they should pick up books by Latino authors, particularly from the global south and not only the United States Latino perspective.
I love this take! Thank you for sharing your perspective. ❤️
i’ve read all of tjr and i have no idea where you’re getting anti blackness from 💀
@@bookboxbabe I’m not Black so I can’t speak on it but Jesse from JesseOnUA-cam did an entire video on this subject if you would like to learn more: ua-cam.com/video/NbOD2GH1WuM/v-deo.html
@@bookboxbabe I wouldn’t necessarily call it anti-blackness but definitely highly ignorant. Specially her portrayal of the journalist in seven husbands of Evelyn Hugo and the use of a black man as shock device.
In which book does she talk badly about black people
I’m latina (not Argentine but Brazilian) and I honestly don’t understand the issue with TJR writing latina characters. We adore her books in Brazil and I’ve never heard anyone complain about the representation here.
That’s great! I believe the concerns are being brought up by Latin American readers, as her characters are Latin American specifically. But again, I’m not part of the community so I’m no expert!
I couldn't agree more about the Fiction Winner. EVERYONE loves Legends and Lattes. I think that many times the popular writer gets votes without people reading the books. Thank you for sharing your thoughts. I enjoy the long video though I am sure "editing Elizabeth" is not so happy. :) 📚📖
I think you’re probably right! And editing Elizabeth was definitely a little sleep deprived lol 😂
@@PlantBasedBride You should treat Editing Elizabeth to a long nap and a sweet treat. She works hard! 🧁🛌 Have you read A Psalm for the Wild-Built by Becky Chambers? I think you would enjoy it. I'm currently reading the second in the series.
Wait where was there transphobia in hidden pictures? Or right wing ideals? I didn’t get that from it at all
Just wondering.. was it a good book?
I laughed out loud when you described The Office as...a show. I also never got into The Office and have never felt the need to watch it; so, I understand not having a desire to read the book for the humor category. Life is short and there are way too many books. Great video; very entertaining.
Just found your channel. I’m half Cuban. I read 7 Husbands of Evelyn Hugo. I didn’t like it, but that’s because TJR is just not my cup of tea. It had NOTHING to do with how she portrayed a Cuban woman. If you want to read a book, read it!
New to your channel, and loved this video! Highly recommend "What Our Bones Know," by Stephanie Foo from the memoir category.
Regarding Taylor Reid. As a Mexican American living in the US I can say I don’t appreciate her obsession with Latinas. I appreciate your opinion btw!
Loved this video. I'm reading Tomorrow and tomorrow and tomorrow and enjoying it so far! Glad you liked it too
I had very similar thoughts about Flicker in the Dark. Just meh..met...
I have the other 2 on my TBR.
Thanks, girl! ♥
I think you would really enjoy Remarkably Bright Creatures. 🐙
I read Carrie Soto and I really enjoyed it. But I was not aware of the criticism TJR received for her misrepresentation of Latinos. I will have to look into that. Thanks for bringing this up because it's the first time I've heard someone mention it.
I’m glad I could bring it to your attention! ❤️
To say one can only write about their own experiences would essentially bring the publishing industry to a screeching halt. I don't see the same criticism levied at John Green, for example, who has a penchant for writing about teenage girls. How far does this extend precisely? Can one only write a murder mystery if they've murdered someone?
Of course authors don’t just have to write about their own experiences. But they should be putting in effort to properly represent the people they write about. I haven’t read any of John Green’s fiction so I have no idea if he does a good job writing teenage girls as full complex humans, but if he isn’t capable of that he should stop doing it. I stopped reading Riley Sager’s work because he is unable to write a female protagonist who feels real to me, and I’m uninterested in a man’s poor attempts to write the internal monologue of a woman. He can keep writing that way if he wants, and I’m sure he will, but I don’t have to read his work (and I won’t).
I enjoyed this video SOOOO MUCH. I am currently doing a very tedious job (from home at least) and your video totally was what I needed to pass my morning and now I have some books to check out. I am not a big non academic reader so is hard for me to pick books to read, now I have a nice list to check out and I know they will be good because I trust your opinion 🙌🏻
I'm so glad I could keep you company and give you some book recs! 🥰
I LOVE SJM and when I say I cackled at your reading that "Adventure! Suspense!" 😂
Who writes those descriptions?? I just want a word lol
I loved Carrie Soto, I listened to the audio book. Thankfully I did not bring a lot of baggage to the story, I just listened. I rarely let others determine my enjoyment of a novel, especially when they didn’t bother to read it.
Listening to the group that is apparently being “represented” by a novel when they say they don’t feel represented and in fact find the representation harmful isn’t bringing “baggage” into it.
Just discovered your channel withat video, subscribed and will binge watch more videos today! 🤗📚📝 Loved your reviews so much!
Welcome and thank you! 🥰
i actually have been part of good reads for 3 years or more and never have read any of the books that have been part of the best of in any category.... and yes I read. lol
📚📖enjoyed this so much! thank you.
I'm so glad! ❤️
I had the same feeling about Molly. It was obvious she was on the asd spectrum. I also wasn't too thrilled about the story as well.
📚 Really appreciate these videos! I have added tomorrow and.. , gallant and kaikeyi to my TBR.
Oo enjoy them!!
Hidden pictures was so good lol
Thanks for this. I just started it and her reasoning for giving it 1 star had nothing to do with the story, plot, or characters so this is what I was looking for lol
It really wasn’t. Even without the excessive bigotry it is a very simple and lacklustre thriller.
I will say, how high we go in the dark was my absolute favourite book of last year. Would recommend it to anyone
also a debut that was amazing was Nightcrawling