I had a Sienna with all wheel drive and it was a total nightmare. First of all you get terrible gas milage. On the highway the best I would get was about 17 m.p.g.. I had no spare tire because the space where the spare tire would go was taken up by components of the AWD system. This meant you had to use run flat tires which are the absolute worst. They’re expensive, ride harder, and very few manufacturers make them. The other thing is if you get a flat you’re supposed to replace them, not repair them, although some tire shops will fix them. The other thing about the AWD system is that all the tires must be in the same state of wear. Lets say your tires are about half way through their service life and you get a sidewall cut, which isn’t repairable, you have to buy all new tires because if you don’t the AWD system can be damaged. I can only imagine what that will cost to fix. In addition run flat tires wear poorly. You would be lucky to get over 30,000 miles from a set. I now have a 2020 Sienna with front wheel drive only and it’s a great van. I get 24 m.p.g. on the highway and it rides great and has more power than previous Siennas. So unless you live in the snow belt stay away from AWD.
3rd row SUV'S will never beat the comfort of a minivan. You can fit all 7 adults in a minivan whereas the 3rd row in a SUV only children can fit comfortably.
The Durango and Atlas can both fit adults comfortably in the 3rd row but most people won’t be buying those so I would have to agree. The Sienna is dated because Toyota knows the market is going and their minivan sales are dropping so they see no reason to refresh it and are focusing on SUVs like other companies.
KHLegend yes very true this truck makes me feel like I can go anywhere anytime I wouldn’t hesitate to take it across country I highly recommend these I don’t know why people waste their time on old explorers or Tahoe’s when the sequoia will out perform and last longer than anyone of them... many have rust issues but I’m in Cali and my car has no rust at all... best v8 truck for under 10k and that’s just pure facts
I’m still very happy with my 15 years old 291K miles Toyota Sienna that is still runs flawlessly on its original engine, transmission, iced cold AC, suspension, paint, electrical windows, fuel pump. The vehicle never been towed in its 15 years of service and spent almost 360 days a year driving in city traffic with a lot of stop and go. Very good ride compare to sedans and SUVs. Toyota is number one in reliability, longevity, low cost of maintenance and resale value.
In 2015 my wife wanted a Sienna mostly for road trips now that we’re retired. While I wasn’t all that excited about it at the time a smart husband let’s the wife pick the car she wants with, perhaps, a little guidance. I must admit I’m am extremely impressed with it. It’s so good in so many ways. Ride comfort, handling, suspension, transmission, engine performance and above all comfort and room. And the very small turning radius is truly amazing. It even looks good. But most importantly she loves it and so do I.
Harry Hooligan We has two. Love them. Everyone says we look weird in but I don’t care. Because when I initially purchased I was 27 and my husband 30 but we had two little ones and We are teachers and it worked for us and road trips 👍🏼👍🏼😊
@@puny5417No, the people are weird. There's nothing wrong with the looks of most minivans. The name and idea of a minivan became unpopular for pretty much no reason and for some reason certain people still feel that way. Maybe just people that are uncomfortable with themselves or care too much about being seen in something that they hear might be unpopular? Idk. This all goes for wagons, too but I think it was 90's styling that ruined their reputation, but they've been badass ever since. We need cool wagons back in the U.S. but Americans won't buy them for reasons mentioned above.
I absolutely agree and let me tell ya... my husband and I are not the ones to care what others think. And America do need to put more effort and time in minivans. They are amazing!!! Especially the siennas! People also think that they are just for soccer moms or something too. You can pack Christmas trees, strollers and furniture. Lost continues. And siennas are reliable man!! I can’t speak to how long you can keep one running if cared for properly
I have 2007 Sienna CE 250,000 miles now. I live in Houston,Texas 2 times round trip to Omaha Nebraska, 1 round to San Diego, California, Las Vegas, Nevada, Phoenix, Arizona, 1 round trip to Miami, Florida, 3 round trip to Corpus Christi and many more to Dallas, San Antonio and still running strong, smooth no any mayor issue since I bought it 8 years ago ( 175,000 miles). Only replaced ac compressor last year. I am waiting for new look Sienna to buy one and I will keep this 07 for fishing.
The Sienna was also my family's first car, purchased during the first generation (IDK the year number). However it was replaced by at 2009 Honda Odyssey, which somehow has been kept longer.
I bought 2 Toyota Siennas in 21 yrs. I am still driving it because it is paid for & my 2009 XLE still has the "get up & go" at over 200k miles. It make since to get a car now that my kids are grown, but I hate to give it up!
I totally agree with the usefulness of the Sienna mini van over any SUV. While I have replaced various cars and SUV over the years, my main stay is my 2007 Sienna XLE (sans AWD). It hauls peoples and stuffs...just about everything including the kitchen sink. It rides like a dream on the highway at cruising speed and it has enough pick up to meet my need. The van fits into the 'need' category and the SUV fits into the "want" category ... I need a van but want an SUV.
I think you mean 1997. That's when the first generation Sienna came out. Before that, Toyota's minivan was the Previa. Glad to see the Sienna love though, hopefully the next generation is a massive improvement!
Thank you! AWD is best used off road, it doesn’t help at all for the 2 biggest issues in snow... breaking distance and not sliding off the road. We had a snowstorm yesterday here in Colorado and most of all the cars that slid off the road were AWD. AWD will help a little with traction but nowhere near as much as a good set of snow tires and hardly anyone with AWD gets them. There is also a gas mileage and maintenance cost penalty as well as the initial cost of AWD, both the rear differential and transfer case oils need changing every 30K miles at around $100 for each. Get FWD an extra set of wheels and snow tires and keep a set of chains with you in winter especially in the mountains where they are required and you will never have a need for AWD. Now with off-roading the main issue is traction so AWD makes sense there, allthough off road tires make a big difference too. The Sienna does not have the ground clearance for off-roading but there lift kits available that if installed would then put the AWD version to some good use.
oil is 20 bucks for both tops change it yourself. 30k is extreme 60k is plenty. wait till you do a 0-60 in 7 seconds pulling out in front of someone in the rain and tell me you wont love the AWD to 23mpg diffrence. The fwd just sits and burns the tires off. LOL
@@TimZ007 Yes, AWD will allow you to accelerate faster but without the proper tires(which most with AWD do not get) take much longer to stop and longer even with the proper tires in bad conditions, causing many accidents and explains all the AWD vehicles crashing and sliding off the road. This behavior just causes pain and misery for everyone else on the road and bad karma for yourself.
I have heard that chains are not to be used on FWD. We had a 2011 FWD Sienna and it did not accelerate well off the line on wet pavement It also failed to climb short hill in snow on commute home. Great vehicle, but traded for 4WD crew cab. Happy and confident ever sibce.
They’re not that hard to remove, but they’re also like 60 pounds each and you have to pull them straight up while pulling a lever on the back of the seat. It’s easy to do if you’ve had some practice, but it’ll frustrate the hell out of parents who are just doing it the one time they have to move something that won’t quite fit behind the second row.
I have a basic model 2004 Sienna with 308,000 K on it and still going strong. I wish the new ones did not have all that junk on them which is just things to go wrong. As one sales man old me do not expect to get 17 years and 308k out of the new ones. Seem tinny compared to mine. Will drive it until we both pass on.
I just checked Autotrader,. Within 500 miles of my house (pittsburgh, pa) the 100 highest mileage went from 340,000 to 200,000 miles. That's 100 cars with over 200,000 miles on them. I'd say they last pretty well.
Both of our Sienna vans have winter wheels and tires because they provide better all around safety than 4 wheel drive. Thanks for mentioning that fact though I feel few people actually understand.
The Sienna is the best minivan. It does everything better than an SUV except go off road. AWD is definitely better. You are right about AWD not helping you brake or avoid a slide. That is not the point. Where I live, there are steep hills. AWD gets you up those hills that would normally paralyze FWD cars in the snow. That is where it is useful. AWD just gets you home while others are stuck! I couldn't care less about dated styling - that is for the fashion conscious with fragile egos. Get real. This is a car. It is a tool to get a job done RELIABLY. If you want styling, go buy a dress, jewelry, or a new suit.
I have a used 2007 sienna mini van I bought July last year. I love this van. The fuel consumption is great, everything about the van is amazing.Am enjoying it.
Minivan are the best for hauling things. With the rear seats out you can haul furniture, construction materials like sheets of plywood camping gear. I in a business where I need to have a car and hauling space. This does the job.
can't beat the 3rd row comfort of a minivan, especially for adult passengers. Much easier ingress and egress. And awesome volume of carrying capacity. Great review!
Time for a full redesign, getting long in the tooth. I had this van in SE trim in 2011, it kicked ass. I passed a lady one day, at the light she rolled the window down and said “ I hope you don’t have kids in there” lol.
Yup i just gone done looking at a new Honda Odyssey and Chrysler Pacifica and when I then checked out a Sienna I was pretty shocked to see how long in the tooth Sienna was in comparison to those other vehicles. Everything about Sienna inside and outside kinda gave the impression that the Sienna was the unwanted child in the Toyota designers line-up and there was no real design language but more like... there was no more design budget left because Toyota spent it all on their cars and suv's so when it came to this van, they told the designers to just jot something down during their lunch break and production will make it work lol. Honestly the only thing this Toyota has going for it is the AWD. Otherwise you're right, design wise it's definitely lagging behind the competition at this point.
racers115 Totally agree with your statement. People will buy the Toyota because it’s a Toyota. The two competitors you mentioned make sure you doing your research on those 9 speed Zf transmissions. I would still buy the Toyota over the two, but that’s just me. Enjoy the hunt.
Same here, getting rid of 2011 awd xle sienna not buying the same thing again. Looking at Telluride and Ascent. Car and driver or Edmunds just gave it a 5.3 out of 10 due to age. Old tech
@@Winchester1973. I never tried without automatic settings. From the day I bought it new, in the winter ice & snow below freezing I couldn't open the doors no matter what I did.
Got a Tundra and a Sienna... Home Depot runs are done in the Sienna... shopping is done in the Sienna... vacation is done in the Sienna... to lay down 3rd row and use space for transport or even put a mattress for vacation in there beats any SUV...
Got the 11 SE and love it... alot of space, comfy, peppy and super Toyota reliable... Minus is that it is a fuel guzzler at 24 MPG max...but honestly said whoever lays that many bills down for a 2020 doesnt really care...
I own 2 Siennas. A 2002 with front wheel drive and a 2006 limited with all wheel drive. Both have been fantastic vehicles. The 02 has 209000 miles and the 06 has 183000 miles. Both vans have been really trouble free with the exception of some sensors here and there. Be aware that you do need to change timing belt and water pump and 90k mile intervals. AWD makes a big difference when comparing the two in the snow, but we average about 18.5 mpg in the Limited
My family had a 2014 Sienna. It was fun to drive something so big so fast, but I hated the touchy throttle and the lackluster brakes. It always felt like walking on eggshells when I was coming to a stop. If you drive it like you don’t hate your life, you’ll be lucky to get 17 mpg.
I have s 2007 Sienna and have driven more than 215,000 miles without any major issue other than normal maintenance. I love this minivan for reliability but will not buy another one until Toyota comes out with a hybrid power train. It is possible as they've already done it with the Highlander. If Honda comes out with one first, I will jump ship!
Make sure you do your homework and be careful with Honda. Honda is having a lot of reliability issues lately so choose carefully. I am not a brand loyalist or fanboy, I just buy whatever is best for me.
Honda is not the same as Toyota, i had an odyssey before the sienna and although it looks better in my opinion, the overall build quality is better on the Sienna.
It is true. I have 2009 Sienna with 213k miles. It has the exact same engine in Lexus car. My mechanic says it will go to 300k miles easily. Just got the fluids changed. Coolant, ATF, power steering fluid, oil change, brake fluid. Very smooth now!
For families with young kids the Sienna has perfect practicality with Lexus Comfort. My wife loves hers. Hopefully they come out with a Prime Hybrid version.
Too many negative comments about the Sienna which were not necessary to state and there is no comparison to the mentioned competitors. Sienna is the best vehicle I ever owned and it is 2006.
This model is old....If you can wait until next until next spring or summer an all new Sienna will be here. It will be built on Toyotas new TNGA platform, be modern and probably offer a hybrid version at last.
For 2019 they put a new transmission with direct drive and CVT. Not sure what they were thinking, love my six speed 2015 don't like the 8 speed. I have awd. Good traction up hill and stuff but ice will still make you slide. Old is good less bugs. Don't like the new grill. New design means new problems.
Speedometer needs more speed. I gone over 110 MPH / 180 KM/H 117 MPH / 190KM/H. This Minivan has power. If you don't do wheels soon on first gear. At 25 MPH / 40KM/H tire spins. A heavy wheels and tires will keep this on the group better at off ramp turns.
Also do not underestimate the value of those wide open sliding doors & lower trunk deck .... Bad ass for ski trips, golf trips, hiking trips & weekend getaways
AWD is important up here in snowy Buffalo. The Sienna has lots of cargo space and a tried and true design for the 2020 model year. I don't like the redesign for 2021, but that's just me.
Same here. I love driving it. So glad we chose it over a 3 row SUV.. we were looking at the Subaru Ascent after upgrading from an outback. It was really a no brainier when considering how much reliability you're getting for spending that much money.. gives a lot of peace of mind. Also the comfort, function, space... It's difficult to not stay hard all day just having that thing in the driveway.
Tactical Priority Sienna platform was designed to accommodate an AWD drivetrain, which removes space for 2nd row stow-and-go. Regardless, I’ll take Toyota’s 300k-mile overtrain reliability over Chrysler’s 2nd row stow-and-go.
Manufacturers have tried to convince us that gas mileage is the most important thing in the world because the government is on them to sell high gas mileage cars. Let us get back to reality, which is that the most important feature of any car is SAFETY. Go with the AWD version. See that it drives better in the rain, besides snow/ice.
Awd is not necessary at all for on road driving in winter, it’s more effective and cheaper to buy a second set of dedicated winter tires... doing so allows for better grip, acceleration AND braking... something that awd by itself does not. Also most of the awd lack rear differentials and rely on braking to act as a differential, which can work but system response is always lacking a constant awd system (a la Subaru) or performance awd like Audi A4 and up (the A3 works on a fwd based one from the golf R rather than at this point solely Audi rwd bias awd)
Side note... I haven’t had an AWD car since 2003 (it was a WRX wagon manual). I’ve done with two wheel drive and differentials with winter tires since 2007 with my 2007 R56 MINI Cooper S with mechanical LSD (subsequent years got an E-diff over mechanical unit), my 2013 FRS manual, and now my 2019 Honda Civic Type R. And to this day I still have no issues with winter driving. Granted I’m from Pa around philly so our average snow fall is basically 5-8 days a year. Any Canadians want to jump in here?
Minivan owners, how often, if ever, have you had the need to remove the 2nd row seats? Is stow n go convenient, most definitely! But not at the sacrifice of a comfortable seat. People sit in the seats way more than you'll ever need to remove the seats for cargo. I'd rather have more comfortable seats than have stow n go.
I have a Honda Odyssey and have removed the 2nd row countless times to haul things to the dump. My dad and I once fit a 600-lb root ball from a pine tree in there. We've also hauled about 1,300 lbs of stone pavers. He's always owned trucks and is now a huge minivan fan :) But with four kids, we have the 2nd row in at all other times.
We take out the 2nd row seats in our 06 Sienna all the time, it’s our hauler for when we do yard work or need to carry something big, the inside is huge with all the seats taken out
If you don’t need to tow more than 3000 lbs or so, nothing beats a minivan for combination of people & cargo space, fuel mileage, handling, cost of tires. A tow package is cheap, & a trailer can carry the occasional item too tall or bulky to fit in the van. Friends have a Jag & 2 BMW’s -& a Chrysler Town & Country. Whenever they go on a road trip, they use the T&C.
There's a new generation coming out next year; if you're in the market, wait a few months and see how you like the new one, or get a good deal on this one if you like it better then!
nothing beat minivan for family. Quiet, Spacious, and greater MPG than most SUV. For 10 years without any update, it is a fact that it is what most people need. Reliability wise, it is unbeatable and the reason the used price is still higher than Odyssey or Pacifica. Honda burning oil and problematic transmission, Pacifica hybrid is a good choice with similar to Prius realiable eCVT system. Time will tell if it will be trouble free (200k Miles/10 years benchmark) like Prius and Corolla Hybrid.
So I live in snow country and the cars that go off the road during ice and snow storms are 4 wheel all wheel. drive cars? Why you may ask?? Well it's because 4 wheel drive does not actually help you hold the road, it's the tires that do that and all the folks with all wheel drive forget the reality and go to fast, and then end up off the road. AWD and four WD help with traction when starting and going though snow at low speeds but at speed it's tires that hold the road.
i luv it . its a fantastic car. however there is huge minus here that it does not come a diesel version for fuel economy. it has (gas) a huge consumption rates unfortunately.
The reason for manual shifting is going down hill on long stretches. Minivans are heavy especially when you have everyone in them. If you don't use your transmission to slow down you will warp the rotors or worse loose your brakes.
Looks like it could make a decent camper van. If we do end up getting a van I want AWD though.The front wheel drive van we used to have the wife got stuck a couple of times in the snow. At that we don't even live in what could be considered a snow belt. But when it does snow they can sometimes be slow about clearing the roads. That an we might sometime want to get a few feet off the pavement. Not anywhere close to Rockcrawling. But maybe a somewhat rough road.
That's what I'm hearing with it being on the same TNGA platform as the Highlander. Is there any confirmed info if it'll be offered in a hybrid as soon as the 2021 goes on sale? I've heard some say the hybrid will come later. But that doesn't make sense to me since the new Highlander is offered in a hybrid right out of the gates.
@@jdansie I extrapolate from all recent developments that Toyota will release a Hybrid Sienna . To date , I have seen NO actual press reports on the subject which makes sense as all recent marketing hype has been focused around the new Highlander and RAV4 variations. Although the press previews for the Highlander Hybrid occurred simultaneously with the non- Hybrid, there is a delay of several months before the Hybrid reaches dealerships. As was the case with the RAV4 Hybrid, I expect back orders and delays as the public realizes what a massive leap forward the new Highlander Hybrid represents. My personal view is that the next Sienna SHOULD be Hybrid only as it makes perfect sense in the purely practical Minivan segment. An AWD, Hybrid Sienna getting 35+ mpg would be the pinnacle of rational family transportation. Regardless of what I think, the whole world will find out Toyota's plans in 2020. ;)
is it a good price? i recently bought brand new 2019 sienna LE at 0 % APR with 60 payments of $564/ month & downpayment of $5000. this includes toyota extended warranty plan, plus the white strip by the front doors, the railing on the roof & mats. my priority was 0%
Hurry up and buy the 2020 Sienna if you want the V6. The 2021 Sienna is 4 cylinder hybrid mole with much less power and torque for driving a family around.
I am currently trying to choose a van for our family. Personally prefer Honda but when it comes to discounts and stuff Toyota always offers more and I don’t care that Honda has higher resale value coz I drag cars till they basically give up like over 200k to 300k miles. I wanna buy sienna coz I saw a deal when they giving 0 apr in our area but that interior is turning me off so bad. Maybe it looks bad in videos and might grow on me when I go to test drive tomorrow let’s see most likely I am getting odyssey coz it looks better imo but I will definitely give sienna a fair chance and see if I am save money if I buy one over Honda.
I loved our 2006 LE so much that we replaced it at 200,000 miles with a 2015 LE last year. I'm 5'8" It's taken over a year to stop complaining about the "active head restraint". My kids still complain. I also very much prefer the second row seats in the 2006, but I suspect they were redesigned to accommodate the ergonomically torturous head rests.
All I know is that unless you are towing something over 3000 pounds, a minivan does everything most people want from an suv with more comfort, space and ease of entry.
@@Riley0798 I haven't seen an undisguised pic. I hear it's wider. The nice thing is the new platform will be stronger and safer. I hope it's not horribly ugly.
If you need space for people and stuff, absolutely the minivan trumps the crossovers and even most bigger SUV's. The only advantage the larger truck based SUV's have is in trailer towing capability but beyond that, there's no comparison in my experience. One thing I've been very disappointed with Toyota is how far they seem to be lagging behind everyone else in connectivity technology. Most of their line hasn't had Apple CarPlay or Android Auto even though everyone else seems to have had it for a number of years now. You mentioned the 2020 Sienna now has Apple CarPlay but no mention of Android Auto. I've noted that on some of their other current models. Personally, I have never understood why so much priority has been given to Apple support when the vast majority of the folks I know don't use Apple. Oh well. One other minor correction. The transmission on the Sienna, if it's still like the Toyota products I've had experience with, including my 2013 Rav4, doesn't have a true "manual" mode. When placed in "sport" mode, the "D" on the display is replaced with some gear number below the available top gear of the transmission. In my 2013 Rav4 with 6 speed tranny, it's "4." I can "upshift or downshift" from that point if I want but at that point, the highest gear the transmission will go to is the displayed gear, but the transmission is still a fully automatic transmission. All you've done is limit the highest gear the transmission will upshift to but it will still upshift and downshift automatically as it sees fit in accordance with what you ask it to do.
I had a Sienna with all wheel drive and it was a total nightmare. First of all you get terrible gas milage. On the highway the best I would get was about 17 m.p.g.. I had no spare tire because the space where the spare tire would go was taken up by components of the AWD system. This meant you had to use run flat tires which are the absolute worst. They’re expensive, ride harder, and very few manufacturers make them. The other thing is if you get a flat you’re supposed to replace them, not repair them, although some tire shops will fix them. The other thing about the AWD system is that all the tires must be in the same state of wear. Lets say your tires are about half way through their service life and you get a sidewall cut, which isn’t repairable, you have to buy all new tires because if you don’t the AWD system can be damaged. I can only imagine what that will cost to fix. In addition run flat tires wear poorly. You would be lucky to get over 30,000 miles from a set. I now have a 2020 Sienna with front wheel drive only and it’s a great van. I get 24 m.p.g. on the highway and it rides great and has more power than previous Siennas. So unless you live in the snow belt stay away from AWD.
Glad my wife and I made the right purchass
3rd row SUV'S will never beat the comfort of a minivan. You can fit all 7 adults in a minivan whereas the 3rd row in a SUV only children can fit comfortably.
The Durango and Atlas can both fit adults comfortably in the 3rd row but most people won’t be buying those so I would have to agree. The Sienna is dated because Toyota knows the market is going and their minivan sales are dropping so they see no reason to refresh it and are focusing on SUVs like other companies.
@@joelrepass2379 Styling and design are an after thought with Toyota. The Sienna lasts a long time
My sequoia 3rd row is very nice but have to deal with V8 MPG.
t h yep 13 city 17 hwy on that 6000lb elephant that’ll run forever.
KHLegend yes very true this truck makes me feel like I can go anywhere anytime I wouldn’t hesitate to take it across country I highly recommend these I don’t know why people waste their time on old explorers or Tahoe’s when the sequoia will out perform and last longer than anyone of them... many have rust issues but I’m in Cali and my car has no rust at all... best v8 truck for under 10k and that’s just pure facts
I’m still very happy with my 15 years old 291K miles Toyota Sienna that is still runs flawlessly on its original engine, transmission, iced cold AC, suspension, paint, electrical windows, fuel pump. The vehicle never been towed in its 15 years of service and spent almost 360 days a year driving in city traffic with a lot of stop and go. Very good ride compare to sedans and SUVs. Toyota is number one in reliability, longevity, low cost of maintenance and resale value.
I'm looking for a used one now.
I love this!! You didn’t forget anything! I want one even more now! Thank you! And I’m so glad you’ve got your moneys worth... and more
My dad sold his 04 with 430k last year, to get a 2018 Sienna. I will be getting the 2021 Sienna later this year
I drove a Sienna recently and really enjoyed it ! I’d love to have one
In 2015 my wife wanted a Sienna mostly for road trips now that we’re retired. While I wasn’t all that excited about it at the time a smart husband let’s the wife pick the car she wants with, perhaps, a little guidance. I must admit I’m am extremely impressed with it. It’s so good in so many ways. Ride comfort, handling, suspension, transmission, engine performance and above all comfort and room. And the very small turning radius is truly amazing. It even looks good. But most importantly she loves it and so do I.
Harry Hooligan We has two. Love them. Everyone says we look weird in but I don’t care. Because when I initially purchased I was 27 and my husband 30 but we had two little ones and We are teachers and it worked for us and road trips 👍🏼👍🏼😊
@@puny5417No, the people are weird. There's nothing wrong with the looks of most minivans. The name and idea of a minivan became unpopular for pretty much no reason and for some reason certain people still feel that way. Maybe just people that are uncomfortable with themselves or care too much about being seen in something that they hear might be unpopular? Idk. This all goes for wagons, too but I think it was 90's styling that ruined their reputation, but they've been badass ever since. We need cool wagons back in the U.S. but Americans won't buy them for reasons mentioned above.
I absolutely agree and let me tell ya... my husband and I are not the ones to care what others think. And America do need to put more effort and time in minivans. They are amazing!!! Especially the siennas! People also think that they are just for soccer moms or something too. You can pack Christmas trees, strollers and furniture. Lost continues. And siennas are reliable man!! I can’t speak to how long you can keep one running if cared for properly
I have 2007 Sienna CE
250,000 miles now. I live in Houston,Texas 2 times round trip to Omaha Nebraska, 1 round to San Diego, California, Las Vegas, Nevada, Phoenix, Arizona, 1 round trip to Miami, Florida, 3 round trip to Corpus Christi and many more to Dallas, San Antonio and still running strong, smooth no any mayor issue since I bought it 8 years ago ( 175,000 miles). Only replaced ac compressor last year. I am waiting for new look Sienna to buy one and I will keep this 07 for fishing.
I have 2004 sienna 245000 miles still runs great awd J D. no rust
Just rolled over 260k in my 2004 earlier today! U can't kill these things!
John Davy, How much exposure to road salts though? I have been curious about how anti corrosive these Siennas are..
You still many older Siennas on the road. Its the most reliable van out there.
For real tho
I have a 1999 Toyota Sienna with 246K miles and drives like it has 20K. Starts up everyday.
Also have a 2005 Sienna with 240k.
Love them.
Got a 2003 Sienna with 199,000 miles and I love it
The Sienna was also my family's first car, purchased during the first generation (IDK the year number). However it was replaced by at 2009 Honda Odyssey, which somehow has been kept longer.
I have seen many old odyssey's on the road as well.
I bought 2 Toyota Siennas in 21 yrs. I am still driving it because it is paid for & my 2009 XLE still has the "get up & go" at over 200k miles. It make since to get a car now that my kids are grown, but I hate to give it up!
I have this in the premium all wheel drive version and I love it.
Owned one for 18 years and drove for 148,000 Miles. Great 👍 Vehicle.
I totally agree with the usefulness of the Sienna mini van over any SUV. While I have replaced various cars and SUV over the years, my main stay is my 2007 Sienna XLE (sans AWD). It hauls peoples and stuffs...just about everything including the kitchen sink. It rides like a dream on the highway at cruising speed and it has enough pick up to meet my need. The van fits into the 'need' category and the SUV fits into the "want" category ... I need a van but want an SUV.
I have a 2015 Sienna, never thought I would say this but I love that thing! I would get another Sienna if I was in the market for sure
I love the Sienna! My family has a Sienna 1990 and it still runs smoothly! We recently got a new Sienna and love it! Our is the limited fully loaded!
Nice man i have a 2008 with 400000 km wish you many more miles man
I think you mean 1997. That's when the first generation Sienna came out. Before that, Toyota's minivan was the Previa. Glad to see the Sienna love though, hopefully the next generation is a massive improvement!
Thats eggcellent!
Toyota did not make sienna in 1990.
You must be referring to the Toyota Previa.
Thank you! AWD is best used off road, it doesn’t help at all for the 2 biggest issues in snow... breaking distance and not sliding off the road. We had a snowstorm yesterday here in Colorado and most of all the cars that slid off the road were AWD. AWD will help a little with traction but nowhere near as much as a good set of snow tires and hardly anyone with AWD gets them. There is also a gas mileage and maintenance cost penalty as well as the initial cost of AWD, both the rear differential and transfer case oils need changing every 30K miles at around $100 for each. Get FWD an extra set of wheels and snow tires and keep a set of chains with you in winter especially in the mountains where they are required and you will never have a need for AWD. Now with off-roading the main issue is traction so AWD makes sense there, allthough off road tires make a big difference too. The Sienna does not have the ground clearance for off-roading but there lift kits available that if installed would then put the AWD version to some good use.
Eric Orton AWD’s main advantage is hill starts. Otherwise, it’s winter tires all the way.
oil is 20 bucks for both tops change it yourself. 30k is extreme 60k is plenty. wait till you do a 0-60 in 7 seconds pulling out in front of someone in the rain and tell me you wont love the AWD to 23mpg diffrence. The fwd just sits and burns the tires off. LOL
@@TimZ007 Yes, AWD will allow you to accelerate faster but without the proper tires(which most with AWD do not get) take much longer to stop and longer even with the proper tires in bad conditions, causing many accidents and explains all the AWD vehicles crashing and sliding off the road. This behavior just causes pain and misery for everyone else on the road and bad karma for yourself.
I have heard that chains are not to be used on FWD.
We had a 2011 FWD Sienna and it did not accelerate well off the line on wet pavement
It also failed to climb short hill in snow on commute home. Great vehicle, but traded for 4WD crew cab. Happy and confident ever sibce.
Exactly! Stopping distances on ice and snow are directly related to tires and has nothing to do with AWD, 4WD or whatever system.
Those seats looked easy to remove to me lol. He did that fast !!
They’re not that hard to remove, but they’re also like 60 pounds each and you have to pull them straight up while pulling a lever on the back of the seat. It’s easy to do if you’ve had some practice, but it’ll frustrate the hell out of parents who are just doing it the one time they have to move something that won’t quite fit behind the second row.
Other reviewers can do it too. But no one does it looking as easy as our George here LOL
I have a basic model 2004 Sienna with 308,000 K on it and still going strong. I wish the new ones did not have all that junk on them which is just things to go wrong. As one sales man old me do not expect to get 17 years and 308k out of the new ones.
Seem tinny compared to mine. Will drive it until we both pass on.
I just checked Autotrader,. Within 500 miles of my house (pittsburgh, pa) the 100 highest mileage went from 340,000 to 200,000 miles. That's 100 cars with over 200,000 miles on them.
I'd say they last pretty well.
ya sienna's are great. I would get over a 7 passenger SUV any day
my mom has a 2013 Toyota sienna with 101K and no problems. extremely reliable mini van.
Both of our Sienna vans have winter wheels and tires because they provide better all around safety than 4 wheel drive. Thanks for mentioning that fact though I feel few people actually understand.
People talk yang about minivans until they actually drive and use one to travel or run errands. Then it’s “I LIKE this “
The Sienna is the best minivan. It does everything better than an SUV except go off road. AWD is definitely better. You are right about AWD not helping you brake or avoid a slide. That is not the point. Where I live, there are steep hills. AWD gets you up those hills that would normally paralyze FWD cars in the snow. That is where it is useful. AWD just gets you home while others are stuck! I couldn't care less about dated styling - that is for the fashion conscious with fragile egos. Get real. This is a car. It is a tool to get a job done RELIABLY. If you want styling, go buy a dress, jewelry, or a new suit.
I have a used 2007 sienna mini van I bought July last year. I love this van. The fuel consumption is great, everything about the van is amazing.Am enjoying it.
Minivan are the best for hauling things. With the rear seats out you can haul furniture, construction materials like sheets of plywood camping gear. I in a business where I need to have a car and hauling space. This does the job.
can't beat the 3rd row comfort of a minivan, especially for adult passengers. Much easier ingress and egress. And awesome volume of carrying capacity. Great review!
Time for a full redesign, getting long in the tooth. I had this van in SE trim in 2011, it kicked ass. I passed a lady one day, at the light she rolled the window down and said “ I hope you don’t have kids in there” lol.
Yup i just gone done looking at a new Honda Odyssey and Chrysler Pacifica and when I then checked out a Sienna I was pretty shocked to see how long in the tooth Sienna was in comparison to those other vehicles. Everything about Sienna inside and outside kinda gave the impression that the Sienna was the unwanted child in the Toyota designers line-up and there was no real design language but more like... there was no more design budget left because Toyota spent it all on their cars and suv's so when it came to this van, they told the designers to just jot something down during their lunch break and production will make it work lol. Honestly the only thing this Toyota has going for it is the AWD. Otherwise you're right, design wise it's definitely lagging behind the competition at this point.
racers115 Totally agree with your statement. People will buy the Toyota because it’s a Toyota. The two competitors you mentioned make sure you doing your research on those 9 speed Zf transmissions. I would still buy the Toyota over the two, but that’s just me. Enjoy the hunt.
Its getting a redesign next year
Suppose to be a little bigger and may have stow in go second roe seats.
@@smallnuts2 Well, I know it will be a hit. Thanks for the info btw.
Same here, getting rid of 2011 awd xle sienna not buying the same thing again. Looking at Telluride and Ascent. Car and driver or Edmunds just gave it a 5.3 out of 10 due to age. Old tech
Best van I ever owned. But the sliding side doors in the midwest winter were a nightmare. Wouldn't open bellow freezing
You mean on automatic setting, or even with power off?
@@Winchester1973. I never tried without automatic settings. From the day I bought it new, in the winter ice & snow below freezing I couldn't open the doors no matter what I did.
@@Winchester1973. Maybe without auto on maybe it would open but who knows. Doors broke so I got an suv
I still like minivans for the versatility comfort and ease of use
AWD is fine but FWD can be good too if u have right tires and know how to drive in abnormal conditions.
But have you tried AWD with top tier winter tires? Amazing in Canadian weather
Got a Tundra and a Sienna... Home Depot runs are done in the Sienna... shopping is done in the Sienna... vacation is done in the Sienna... to lay down 3rd row and use space for transport or even put a mattress for vacation in there beats any SUV...
Got the 11 SE and love it... alot of space, comfy, peppy and super Toyota reliable... Minus is that it is a fuel guzzler at 24 MPG max...but honestly said whoever lays that many bills down for a 2020 doesnt really care...
I own 2 Siennas. A 2002 with front wheel drive and a 2006 limited with all wheel drive. Both have been fantastic vehicles. The 02 has 209000 miles and the 06 has 183000 miles. Both vans have been really trouble free with the exception of some sensors here and there. Be aware that you do need to change timing belt and water pump and 90k mile intervals. AWD makes a big difference when comparing the two in the snow, but we average about 18.5 mpg in the Limited
My family had a 2014 Sienna. It was fun to drive something so big so fast, but I hated the touchy throttle and the lackluster brakes. It always felt like walking on eggshells when I was coming to a stop. If you drive it like you don’t hate your life, you’ll be lucky to get 17 mpg.
I have s 2007 Sienna and have driven more than 215,000 miles without any major issue other than normal maintenance. I love this minivan for reliability but will not buy another one until Toyota comes out with a hybrid power train. It is possible as they've already done it with the Highlander. If Honda comes out with one first, I will jump ship!
There both good toyota and honda
Make sure you do your homework and be careful with Honda. Honda is having a lot of reliability issues lately so choose carefully. I am not a brand loyalist or fanboy, I just buy whatever is best for me.
Honda is not the same as Toyota, i had an odyssey before the sienna and although it looks better in my opinion, the overall build quality is better on the Sienna.
It is true. I have 2009 Sienna with 213k miles. It has the exact same engine in Lexus car. My mechanic says it will go to 300k miles easily. Just got the fluids changed. Coolant, ATF, power steering fluid, oil change, brake fluid. Very smooth now!
For families with young kids the Sienna has perfect practicality with Lexus Comfort. My wife loves hers. Hopefully they come out with a Prime Hybrid version.
Too many negative comments about the Sienna which were not necessary to state and there is no comparison to the mentioned competitors. Sienna is the best vehicle I ever owned and it is 2006.
The Sienna has 360 camera which the Odyssey doesn't have
This model is old....If you can wait until next until next spring or summer an all new Sienna will be here. It will be built on Toyotas new TNGA platform, be modern and probably offer a hybrid version at last.
For 2019 they put a new transmission with direct drive and CVT. Not sure what they were thinking, love my six speed 2015 don't like the 8 speed. I have awd. Good traction up hill and stuff but ice will still make you slide. Old is good less bugs. Don't like the new grill. New design means new problems.
Speedometer needs more speed. I gone over 110 MPH / 180 KM/H 117 MPH / 190KM/H. This Minivan has power. If you don't do wheels soon on first gear. At 25 MPH / 40KM/H tire spins.
A heavy wheels and tires will keep this on the group better at off ramp turns.
Also do not underestimate the value of those wide open sliding doors & lower trunk deck .... Bad ass for ski trips, golf trips, hiking trips & weekend getaways
My uncle bought a Sienna and chip tuned it to 330 hp lol
Never mentioned Toyota’s unparalleled reliability that Chrysler or even Honda couldn’t offer.
Not to mention Toyota's frequent recalls. Don't forget about all of those!
AWD is important up here in snowy Buffalo. The Sienna has lots of cargo space and a tried and true design for the 2020 model year. I don't like the redesign for 2021, but that's just me.
I have a Sienna 2019 XLE with mobility auto access seat. It’s a 7 seater, fits comfortably. The best decision that I’ve ever had.
Same here. I love driving it. So glad we chose it over a 3 row SUV.. we were looking at the Subaru Ascent after upgrading from an outback. It was really a no brainier when considering how much reliability you're getting for spending that much money.. gives a lot of peace of mind. Also the comfort, function, space... It's difficult to not stay hard all day just having that thing in the driveway.
Yeah, stopping was solved with traction control and ABS, AWD is what it’s all about in UP Michigan
I have a 2019. My only complaint is the damn trolleys the second row seat mount on. I wish toyota would go with stow and go.
Tactical Priority Sienna platform was designed to accommodate an AWD drivetrain, which removes space for 2nd row stow-and-go. Regardless, I’ll take Toyota’s 300k-mile overtrain reliability over Chrysler’s 2nd row stow-and-go.
There’s another AWD minivan but only available in Japan, Australia, New
Zealand etc. it also has a hybrid model
too which gets 33MPG combined.
I can’t wait for the day “crossovers finally wane,”
Manufacturers have tried to convince us that gas mileage is the most important thing in the world because the government is on them to sell high gas mileage cars. Let us get back to reality, which is that the most important feature of any car is SAFETY. Go with the AWD version. See that it drives better in the rain, besides snow/ice.
Awd is not necessary at all for on road driving in winter, it’s more effective and cheaper to buy a second set of dedicated winter tires... doing so allows for better grip, acceleration AND braking... something that awd by itself does not. Also most of the awd lack rear differentials and rely on braking to act as a differential, which can work but system response is always lacking a constant awd system (a la Subaru) or performance awd like Audi A4 and up (the A3 works on a fwd based one from the golf R rather than at this point solely Audi rwd bias awd)
Side note... I haven’t had an AWD car since 2003 (it was a WRX wagon manual). I’ve done with two wheel drive and differentials with winter tires since 2007 with my 2007 R56 MINI Cooper S with mechanical LSD (subsequent years got an E-diff over mechanical unit), my 2013 FRS manual, and now my 2019 Honda Civic Type R. And to this day I still have no issues with winter driving. Granted I’m from Pa around philly so our average snow fall is basically 5-8 days a year. Any Canadians want to jump in here?
The AWD makes it safer but you still need to be a good driver and understand the limits of your vehicle. No they don’t trounce CUV but the crush SUV.
Minivan owners, how often, if ever, have you had the need to remove the 2nd row seats? Is stow n go convenient, most definitely! But not at the sacrifice of a comfortable seat. People sit in the seats way more than you'll ever need to remove the seats for cargo. I'd rather have more comfortable seats than have stow n go.
I have a Honda Odyssey and have removed the 2nd row countless times to haul things to the dump. My dad and I once fit a 600-lb root ball from a pine tree in there. We've also hauled about 1,300 lbs of stone pavers. He's always owned trucks and is now a huge minivan fan :) But with four kids, we have the 2nd row in at all other times.
We take out the 2nd row seats in our 06 Sienna all the time, it’s our hauler for when we do yard work or need to carry something big, the inside is huge with all the seats taken out
Good logic!
If you don’t need to tow more than 3000 lbs or so, nothing beats a minivan for combination of people & cargo space, fuel mileage, handling, cost of tires. A tow package is cheap, & a trailer can carry the occasional item too tall or bulky to fit in the van. Friends have a Jag & 2 BMW’s -& a Chrysler Town & Country. Whenever they go on a road trip, they use the T&C.
Love this mini van it is the prettiest and most powerfulest mini van out there
You missed the "Limited Premium" trim which has 2nd row recliner lounge seats and 3rd row power fold down seats.
I always admire this minivan though..its simple but cool I like it
It does make sense logically , but still , people rather not drive a minivan unless they REALLLY need to ! ( personal opinion)
There's a new generation coming out next year; if you're in the market, wait a few months and see how you like the new one, or get a good deal on this one if you like it better then!
That's what I'm doing but the update news is soooooo slow!
We're super happy with our 2016 XLE and will probably drive it into the ground.
i guess toyota is like if it aint broke dont fix it
Instead of all wheel drive, get a set of winter tires.
Sienna is cool though that automatic 8 speed is still a new technology that needs refinement
nothing beat minivan for family. Quiet, Spacious, and greater MPG than most SUV. For 10 years without any update, it is a fact that it is what most people need. Reliability wise, it is unbeatable and the reason the used price is still higher than Odyssey or Pacifica. Honda burning oil and problematic transmission, Pacifica hybrid is a good choice with similar to Prius realiable eCVT system. Time will tell if it will be trouble free (200k Miles/10 years benchmark) like Prius and Corolla Hybrid.
make next gen powered by new hybrid system just added to highlander and bring both to Europe
All wheel drive I crease safety when driving on icey and slippery road
So I live in snow country and the cars that go off the road during ice and snow storms are 4 wheel all wheel. drive cars? Why you may ask?? Well it's because 4 wheel drive does not actually help you hold the road, it's the tires that do that and all the folks with all wheel drive forget the reality and go to fast, and then end up off the road. AWD and four WD help with traction when starting and going though snow at low speeds but at speed it's tires that hold the road.
i luv it . its a fantastic car. however there is huge minus here that it does not come a diesel version for fuel economy. it has (gas) a huge consumption rates unfortunately.
Minivans are the best!
I like my 2008 sienna.
The reason for manual shifting is going down hill on long stretches. Minivans are heavy especially when you have everyone in them. If you don't use your transmission to slow down you will warp the rotors or worse loose your brakes.
There is nothing wrong with the LE trim if you have small kids I would definitely not buy the one with the leather seats.
AWD is critical for us....my wife hates dealing with a transfer case & good luck getting up our road without it
Looks like it could make a decent camper van. If we do end up getting a van I want AWD though.The front wheel drive van we used to have the wife got stuck a couple of times in the snow. At that we don't even live in what could be considered a snow belt. But when it does snow they can sometimes be slow about clearing the roads. That an we might sometime want to get a few feet off the pavement. Not anywhere close to Rockcrawling. But maybe a somewhat rough road.
Snow tires and rims will always offer better traction than all-wheel drive.
An all-new Hybrid Sienna is just around the corner.
That's what I'm hearing with it being on the same TNGA platform as the Highlander. Is there any confirmed info if it'll be offered in a hybrid as soon as the 2021 goes on sale? I've heard some say the hybrid will come later. But that doesn't make sense to me since the new Highlander is offered in a hybrid right out of the gates.
@@jdansie I extrapolate from all recent developments that Toyota will release a Hybrid Sienna . To date , I have seen NO actual press reports on the subject which makes sense as all recent marketing hype has been focused around the new Highlander and RAV4 variations. Although the press previews for the Highlander Hybrid occurred simultaneously with the non- Hybrid, there is a delay of several months before the Hybrid reaches dealerships. As was the case with the RAV4 Hybrid, I expect back orders and delays as the public realizes what a massive leap forward the new Highlander Hybrid represents. My personal view is that the next Sienna SHOULD be Hybrid only as it makes perfect sense in the purely practical Minivan segment. An AWD, Hybrid Sienna getting 35+ mpg would be the pinnacle of rational family transportation. Regardless of what I think, the whole world will find out Toyota's plans in 2020. ;)
@@rightlanehog3151 I like it! Thanks and best wishes!
exactly same as my 17 sienna
Came across a small company that makes lift kits for these. Honestly I might do it on an older model.
Yup there is a video of the install here on UA-cam
I think the only reason I'd take a Sienna over an Odyssey is the AWD option
is it a good price?
i recently bought brand new 2019 sienna LE at 0 % APR with 60 payments of $564/ month & downpayment of $5000.
this includes toyota extended warranty plan, plus the white strip by the front doors, the railing on the roof & mats.
my priority was 0%
Hurry up and buy the 2020 Sienna if you want the V6. The 2021 Sienna is 4 cylinder hybrid mole with much less power and torque for driving a family around.
That why I'm buying soon and I'm getting the limited awd
I wonder if Chrysler has a patent on the second row Stow & Go? I figured Honda and Toyota would be using them by now?
There building my sienna se premium right now awd is hilarious and kills the tow rating fwd for me...
I'd take a minivan over a SUV anyday.....Toyota needs a real AWD Hybrid
They will have a hybrid in 2021 I believe.
I am currently trying to choose a van for our family. Personally prefer Honda but when it comes to discounts and stuff Toyota always offers more and I don’t care that Honda has higher resale value coz I drag cars till they basically give up like over 200k to 300k miles. I wanna buy sienna coz I saw a deal when they giving 0 apr in our area but that interior is turning me off so bad. Maybe it looks bad in videos and might grow on me when I go to test drive tomorrow let’s see most likely I am getting odyssey coz it looks better imo but I will definitely give sienna a fair chance and see if I am save money if I buy one over Honda.
The manuel down shift is handy on steep down hills to extend your brakes life if you live in a hilly or mountainous area.
Waiting for EV or hybrid or Hydrogen
Don't forget about the Toyota long term reliability
The only car I’d swap my Sienna for is another Sienna or Lexus minivan if they make one .
For me, a crossover makes no sense. It’s similar to both a minivan and an SUV in certain ways, but pales in comparison to both.
I heard that the Sienna Hybrid will be available in 2021, can't wait to replace my 2006 Sienna.
I want an all electric sienna. With 450 miles per charge.
I loved our 2006 LE so much that we replaced it at 200,000 miles with a 2015 LE last year. I'm 5'8" It's taken over a year to stop complaining about the "active head restraint". My kids still complain. I also very much prefer the second row seats in the 2006, but I suspect they were redesigned to accommodate the ergonomically torturous head rests.
All I know is that unless you are towing something over 3000 pounds, a minivan does everything most people want from an suv with more comfort, space and ease of entry.
With the middle seats taken out & back seat into the floor--it's an encased pickup to me.
Please bring a Hybrid!
Good review. Thanks for doing it.
It looks very nice that grill
Wait for the 2021 redesign. We've been waiting since 2011, what's 1 more year....
asertiv1 the 2021 model is really ugly
@@Riley0798 I haven't seen an undisguised pic. I hear it's wider. The nice thing is the new platform will be stronger and safer. I hope it's not horribly ugly.
@@Riley0798 where did you see it?
Could change the look of it
This model is nice
I learned how to drive in a sienna 😭
Habib Cool!!
If you need space for people and stuff, absolutely the minivan trumps the crossovers and even most bigger SUV's. The only advantage the larger truck based SUV's have is in trailer towing capability but beyond that, there's no comparison in my experience. One thing I've been very disappointed with Toyota is how far they seem to be lagging behind everyone else in connectivity technology. Most of their line hasn't had Apple CarPlay or Android Auto even though everyone else seems to have had it for a number of years now. You mentioned the 2020 Sienna now has Apple CarPlay but no mention of Android Auto. I've noted that on some of their other current models. Personally, I have never understood why so much priority has been given to Apple support when the vast majority of the folks I know don't use Apple. Oh well. One other minor correction. The transmission on the Sienna, if it's still like the Toyota products I've had experience with, including my 2013 Rav4, doesn't have a true "manual" mode. When placed in "sport" mode, the "D" on the display is replaced with some gear number below the available top gear of the transmission. In my 2013 Rav4 with 6 speed tranny, it's "4." I can "upshift or downshift" from that point if I want but at that point, the highest gear the transmission will go to is the displayed gear, but the transmission is still a fully automatic transmission. All you've done is limit the highest gear the transmission will upshift to but it will still upshift and downshift automatically as it sees fit in accordance with what you ask it to do.
$50k for a minivan!?!?
That's not the base price
Yea that’s so pricey I would lease it
Power sliding doors are the best
All wheel drive helps with keeping control if you're already driving responsibly for conditions. It's not a license to disrespect slippery roadways.