FORCON here (89'-96). I remember when they started FAST company out of Mare Island in the 90's. Were were not impressed with the idea one bit. Its good to see that all of these units still exist and have managed to pick out their niche. Semper Fi!
They came outta mare Island? WOW I lived in Fairfield my whole life didn't know that. My Grandfather was a Sargent Major 38 years in the Corps. WW2, KOREA, AND NAM. My dad was First Force Recon in the early 60's. I was gonna head that route but broke my Ankle and got steel installed.
I was in FAST over in Norfolk 91-93. Great training our advantage was rapid deployment with heavy weapons. 1 platoon had 3 m60’s, 1 50cal, 1mk 19, 2 SMAWs and 2-60mm mortars. Embassy reinforcement was main mission
The liaison part of ANGLICO is actually because we attach to foreign forces or Army units. That way in a marine AO the calls for fire are always done the same way and can be de conflicted by the same people as well
To be clear, the tier system is not part of nor used by SOCOM. These terms emerged from outside the official SOCOM structure, and the military doesn't officially classify units in this way.
1' is an embassy swat , 2' light intell gathering for the fmf , 3' fire control for air and sea guns and advisory for combined operations ,4' S/S teams for long range precision shooting 5' spec op's unit for what tier 1's don't have time to for
5 years at 1st ANGLICO (2010-2015) 3 deployments. I just wanna say we specialize in CAS, naval guns and surface to surface fires but we aren’t like special forces or anything. We have a specific specialty and the unit structure is unique in the Marine Corps.
@@andrewdimauro7352 , c'mon thunder from the skies , you have a unique history in the Corps ain't no party like a beach party semper fi brothers ( 81/85 )
I think ANGLICO is thrown in here due to it being “Special Operations Capable”. Additionally, the JTAC qualification appears to be inherent to specialized service members in other branches whereas the MC views it as a Billet and now a requirement to become an 0871. So whereas in another branch of service you may be considered special, the MC views JTACs as an individual that has simply attended a course like it’s commonly done in many other MOSs. Either way ANGLICO is a great unit to be a part of from the plethora of buddies that have had the pleasure to serve in. Haven’t met anyone that disliked their time there.
@andrewdimauro7352 I think you're missing the point. A "special" force, by definition, does things the normal forces can not. That much capability/flexibility in calling down warheads on foreheads most definitely puts the group in special forces. I dreamt of having a job like that... still do.
@@andrewdimauro7352 c'mon you went through several hard schs and survived and got your honorable discharge at the days end your being modest hell i was part fish in my HS swimming team and scuba sch almost killed me bubba like it or not you're from a special breed , im not trying to sell you a belt buckle in the parking lot im just proud to be way over 50' plus and still look good for my age and proud to have run with the wolves and you've done it to semper fi bro
Funny how different things seem 20 some odd years later. 2 deployments with a Marine Expeditiinary Unit (MEU) pre MARSOC, part of maritime special purpose force. Force did all direct action assaults, marine raiders were put together out of the BLT working as security forces, STA and Recon would be eyes forward and on any sniper initiated assaults. Months and months together doing interop training while being evaluated by a special operations training group in order for a SOC qualification before deploying. Good times.
@@davidwilliams5930 was 3/8 from 97 to 01, the security forces drops were always a shit show and a half. In our minds we got a bunch of Pogues corporals who didn't know shit about being infantry who thought they should be in charge. Not all of them, or maybe even most, but enough. One of my bro's was fast in 01 and was with the Iraq invasion, he straight up said that we just didn't do embassy stuff...Do find it interesting that when they formed Marsoc they pulled from the 4th MEB. At the time I think 3/8 was the large unit with any combat experience as a unit even if Kosovo was nothing like the shit storm that was coming later.
I'm so proud of all you young war fighters, (Devil Dogs) you not only hold up old traditions you've raised the bar! Semper Fi brothers, old salt, (1963-1967).
Would definitely want to be a force recon corpsman or SARC as they are called nowadays. I can perform all the medical tasks would need some training in weapons and water activities.
Semper Fi and Happy Birthday from Pvt Jose and I. Brother Jose was a Vietnam War Hero who reenlisted as a Pvt in 1980 to come back to ANGLICO! I would also like to mention Major Dupras WWII Marine Raider who trained and lead UDT sailors in August of 1950!
Marine Security Forces.. 8152.. The GUN SLINGERS of the USMC. Only unit in the USA Arsenal, in which an Infantryman, will get SIGNIFICANTLY more trigger time with pistols\shotguns than any other unit in the Arsenal. These are the Marines that you see on Aircraft Carriers. Masters of CQB on a ship. Better than any seal team, any delta. ON A SHIP that is.. These are the Marines that also guard the Navy weapon stations. With an emphasis on CQB.. and COUNTER CQB.
It's so awesome to see even the nerdiest sounding unit in this list is manned by some badasses. Army just kind throw their guys into a role and sending to a school. But marines make it their entire job, then attach them to more badass group and make sure they can hang when shit goes down.
@ntbroz7315 not much different but the Marines didn't want to integrate into spec ops because high brass already thought they were elite lol which they weren't.Try telling a bunch of regular marine grunts to do Delta Devgru and CIA operative training lol what a joke. This is all documented you can look it up. It was a whole dramatic thing bringing them into special operations for Socom and Jsoc. Army, Navy, and Airforce dominate in special operations community while Marines have been playing catch up for decades. Facts
No our Force Recon does not report to SOCOM and we like it that way. Never wanted to be part of SOCOM to begin with and the Marine Corps was forced to bring Marine Raiders back into existence because some people in government hate to be told no. So now Force Recon can stay where they always belonged and Raiders can fill the SOCOM gap. In the words of Doc Holiday, "there now we can all be friends again."
@@terrarecon sure I get it, the Marine Corps wants to maintain control of their recon units, no problem. But with that control comes all of the conventional unit stupidity and limitations. Lower training budget, limited mission-sets, crappy equipment, slower promotions, less pay, silly rules, etc. etc.
MARINES are NOT SOLDIERS! I don't know why that isn't clear? US Navy=SAILORS, USAF=AIRMEN, US Coast Guard=GUARDSMEN, US Army=SOLDIERS, US Marine Corps=MARINES! I respect my bullet sponge brethren! Semper Fi!
@@ernesthofmeister3054 The 0151s and the 0121s worked hand in hand. The 0151s did unit diary and the 0121s did Service Record Books, awards, etc. We often interchanged duties, and were indistinguishable from each other when it came to getting random duties.
@Adam-iq8rv That was Company level, I worked Regimental S-3 and later 2ndMarDiv PC&AO (Personnel Classification and Assignment Office) as a Division Correspondence Clerk!......tough job, easy duty!
Old USMC 1972-1983 Stationed mostly in Okinawa for 6 years with 1/4 , 2/4, 3/4 , 1/9 5th Marines, 3rd Mar Div. Recon, Force Recon. Trained at Forte Bragg, Fort Benning, Coronado, Jest Trained in the Philippians, Cold weather survival in Norway and Mount Fuji, ITR Camp Pendleton. A lot of training in Okinawa, Camp Lejeune and Camp Pendleton. Maybe some of us chewed the same dirt. OOrah, Semper Fi
MSG. Even CI/HUMINT while NOT accredited federal agents (like all other DOD CI. NOT in the DOD CI. as is AFOSI/ ACI/ NCIS) They used to have theater and national level assignments
When he said that the Forward Artillery Observers in ANGLICO are "the only US military unit that can call in fire support from the air, sea, and land all at once"-----that is wrong. The Air Force's TACP can do the SAME EXACT THING and do it on a regular basis.
My dad was in First Force Recon i believe 61-64? I may be off a couple years. But i do know he was in Cambodia and Vietnam WAAYYYYY before they say troops were. Or i should say MILITARY ADVISOR!!!
Seems like there's a lot of redundancy here. All of these jobs look like they can be covered by Force Recon, Recon or MARSOC. Maybe some of these units fall under the umbrella of Recon, so that would make sense. Still, they all sound like very cool jobs.
The Marine Corp is full of redundancy . Every Marine a rifleman its built into there culture. Had a buddy in boot camp from PR. Dude was a machine. PT and could handle his own. His mos was sanitation. Remember the Corps gets the least funding of all the services. They make due with what they have on hand at the time. So that redundancy is on purpose.
@@kraccusblack1022 There's probably a lot I don't understand about the founding of the military, but it seems like the Marine Corps has always been underserved. If we've got enough money to give away billions to foreign crony "allies" of the illegal Biden Administration, who've usurped power from the true president and The People, then I don't see why they can't slide a billion or two to the Corps. It's weird, because if the military is going to back the play of a bunch of azzholes who would deem themselves our kings, you would think that the Powers would grant the Corp more money. However, it does seem that the Marine Corps is the service that is least rolled into this new regime of traitorous assholez
15th MEU SOC aircrew here. Worked with all the units mentioned here, and yes there IS redundancy in them. The Marine Corps is the most capable and adaptable fighting force in the entire world.
Actually, DOD forced the Marines to form MARSOC, the Marines are traditionally looked at as special troops or shock troops. That's why the original Raiders were disbanded just a couple of years after formation.
I was recon Marine in the 80’s, was asked by a grunt Lt, why do you recon guys think you are so special then everyone. I said we don’t think that, we are just grunts with different missions. After that we became friends!
I went thru CounterGuerrillaWarfareSchool at Ft. Bragg 50 yrs ago with 5th and 7th SFG, worked with 1st, 10th and 19th SFG also. Great guys, but a completely different mission than USMC ops. Their main job is to train indigenous troops in guerrilla warfare. So what unit did you serve with?
Why is MARSOC considered Tier 2? Not related to the first question, but I've often heard people sh!t on MARSOC when comparing sf units, but seems to me they would be some of the biggest bad@sses out there being marines AND special forces ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
ANGLICOs are a lot more similar to Air Force TACPs that CCTs. Also, they are NOT the only specialty that can call for fire air, land, and sea. TACPs and CCTs can as well and were doing so before ANGLICO.
@@hamie7624 The reason for that is they were created to only support the Marine Corps besides Raiders. Raiders are basically Green Berets. Their training regimen was helped set up by Green Berets. There must be a need for it because the Marine Corps was FORCED to assign Marines to SOCOM, but the entire purpose of the redundancy is for having all of those elements ONLY supporting the Marine Corps.
Actually you have that backwards. ANGLICO started as JASCO back in WWII before there was an airforce. I went to Army jump school in 1980. We had some para rescue guys but no mention of fac teams.
RTT is part of USMC Security Forces. They aren't as high speed as Force Recon but fun nonetheless... or at least in the late 90s at Kings Bay it was fun.
@@Grid88they show up to the fleet just a clueless and inexperienced as the boots but they have some rank so there more unwilling to listen and learn, and get put in a billet that reflects there rank leaving a huge experience gap in leadership roles. Give me a fresh boot straight out of SOI anyday.
@rudolfrednose5604 you must not know marine security guards are infantry the reason they're different because they do infantry training then go do embassy training in Virginia so don't speak on things if you don't know too much about
@@lunyolieny4463 exactly if there infantry why the fuck do they need fast teams and marine security guards, instead of cutting the scout sniper program they should of cut msg and made everyone go to a infantry unit
@@rudolfrednose5604 marine Security guard is a complete different billet than Fast or security plt Come on know your shit before commenting. Marine security forces is the first job in the marine corps for starters. Men were Recruited to guard naval vessels and personnel during 1775 . So unless you’re a general or a commander you have no say on what units you deem worthy.
The marine security forces are a joke, they are undertrained rifleman, after they would complete their two year commitment and return to the infantry they would suck
It's long, so first off I apologize. Marine Corps was DEVGRU (in capacity) before SEALs were even a thing. The Marine Corps belongs to the Navy. Part of Its primary purpose was to allow the sailors to do naval things (manage ships) while Marines provided security and were committed to direct force on force. After the Marine Raiders of WWII was disbanded Marine Recon was further developed into Force Recon in the 1950's. The Navy provided funding and later pulled/reduced said funding and decided that they wanted their frogmen underwater demolition guys under the Navy banner to become an elite small force on force unit. The Navy used the training template of Force Recon to get things rolling for SEALs. Technically, all the Navy did was halt the evolution of Force Recon and redirect existing resources to create a redundant initial copy cat of Force Recon, and then evolve the SEALs to where they are now. The missions the SEALs do are very needed, the SEALs as an organization was never needed, because the Navy through the Marine Corps already had Force Recon that could have had a separate unit specially designated for rotation of the missions SEALs do now. It's not a SEAL diss, those guys are patriots because they are dedicated Americans, not because they are in the SEALs. This is a prime example of how our government wastes money and creates countless agencies within the military as well as non-military, such as the FBI, ATF, and DEA. Why not just have special FBI units that focus on those areas instead of recreating the wheel??
@@terrarecontrue, but sometimes it's better to have "dedicated", seperate "independent" units & agencies. That "specialisation" & redundancy can come in handy, at times
@@marstuv5068 I don't argue that it's good to have dedicated units depending on the need. However, too much redundancy can be a waste. How many special units does the military need? I mean, there are Rangers, Green Berets, Delta, MARSOC, Force Recon, Recon, Navy Seals, and the list goes on and on. My argument was about the Navy wasting resources and creating an entirely new organization when it could have simply carved out a component of Force Recon for those missions they claimed they needed to create Seals for. In that instance, a special Marine unit is a dedicated independent unit that serves the goals of the Navy. Remember, the Navy actually owns the Marine Corps.
@@michaeld.4521yeah they did. It was from WW1, the Germans said they just kept coming and coming like they coming from hell, they called them Devil Dogs. If you don’t believe just ask your momma, she’ll tell ya they kept coming and coming 😆🤣😂
Tier 1. Only DEVGRU, Delta, Ranger Recon Company, and 160th., and a couple of other very low profile units are Tier 1. But one should not get caught up with the categories. Force Recon, Seal Team 1,2,3,4, SF, MARSOC, are all Very capable. It you want to kill and destroy I will still take a Marine Infantry Company. Ooh Rahhh
Yep, they are. Rather, join the army because they're not doing anything currently, and marines have badass units but in the same time it's not worth it going with that full pipeline and not doing action with your job.
Yeah, notice all those White males in the USMC Special Operations and their toxic masculinity? That’s because the “others” can’t hack it, but that doesn’t make them racist. Get good, bruh. Step up or sit down.
@@MVK_GS And it's just a coincidence that they're also the objectively weakest and most useless branch, right? The weakest airman is an order of magnitude more badass than even the most seasoned MARSOC 'operator'. Diversity is our strength, chud.
What's the "88" for? The year you were born, or something else? Asking for a friend. 😂😂 also, MARSOC is being dismantled. The Crayon Overlords have decided they dont need a highly skilled Marine SOF unit in SOCOM.
Lt zimmerman usmc sf. And 🇺🇸 🇺🇸 USA God bless you all
There is too much amphibious operations here. I guess I'm more of a delta guy.
Glad somebody finally mentioned Radio Recon
Was in recon when radio recon came to be. The Radio Recon was great bunch of Marines and very good at what they do! 85 to 89
78-79 B Co. 3rd Recon Bn.
79-81 DRP (Deep Recon Platoon/Force Recon) 1st Recon Bn.
81-82 Scuba Locker NCOIC 1st Recon Bn.
Semper Fi Brothers !!!
Thanks for your service 🇺🇸🦅
FORCON here (89'-96). I remember when they started FAST company out of Mare Island in the 90's. Were were not impressed with the idea one bit. Its good to see that all of these units still exist and have managed to pick out their niche. Semper Fi!
They came outta mare Island? WOW I lived in Fairfield my whole life didn't know that. My Grandfather was a Sargent Major 38 years in the Corps. WW2, KOREA, AND NAM. My dad was First Force Recon in the early 60's. I was gonna head that route but broke my Ankle and got steel installed.
I was in FAST over in Norfolk 91-93. Great training our advantage was rapid deployment with heavy weapons. 1 platoon had 3 m60’s, 1 50cal, 1mk 19, 2 SMAWs and 2-60mm mortars. Embassy reinforcement was main mission
FAST is needed, but it really should have a wider mission scope. They fulfill a lot of international drills spots for the Corps though.
The liaison part of ANGLICO is actually because we attach to foreign forces or Army units. That way in a marine AO the calls for fire are always done the same way and can be de conflicted by the same people as well
To be clear, the tier system is not part of nor used by SOCOM. These terms emerged from outside the official SOCOM structure, and the military doesn't officially classify units in this way.
Absolutely correct
1' is an embassy swat , 2' light intell gathering for the fmf , 3' fire control for air and sea guns and advisory for combined operations ,4' S/S teams for long range precision shooting 5' spec op's unit for what tier 1's don't have time to for
Thank you for the fast brake down brother
Your summary is #5 made me smile big lol well said
embassy SWAT? are you high?
@@xusmico187 Apparently he is after reading his comment.
@@xusmico187 , what are the f a s t teams doing deep international united nations special operations counter terrorism duties ,
5 years at 1st ANGLICO (2010-2015) 3 deployments. I just wanna say we specialize in CAS, naval guns and surface to surface fires but we aren’t like special forces or anything. We have a specific specialty and the unit structure is unique in the Marine Corps.
@@andrewdimauro7352 , c'mon thunder from the skies , you have a unique history in the Corps
ain't no party like
a beach party semper fi brothers ( 81/85 )
@ loved every minute of it and I’m proud of it. I’m just saying we’re not some special forces unit
I think ANGLICO is thrown in here due to it being “Special Operations Capable”. Additionally, the JTAC qualification appears to be inherent to specialized service members in other branches whereas the MC views it as a Billet and now a requirement to become an 0871. So whereas in another branch of service you may be considered special, the MC views JTACs as an individual that has simply attended a course like it’s commonly done in many other MOSs. Either way ANGLICO is a great unit to be a part of from the plethora of buddies that have had the pleasure to serve in. Haven’t met anyone that disliked their time there.
@andrewdimauro7352 I think you're missing the point. A "special" force, by definition, does things the normal forces can not. That much capability/flexibility in calling down warheads on foreheads most definitely puts the group in special forces. I dreamt of having a job like that... still do.
@@andrewdimauro7352 c'mon you went through several hard schs and survived and got your honorable discharge at the days end your being modest hell i was part fish in my HS swimming team and scuba sch almost killed me bubba like it or not you're from a special breed , im not trying to sell you a belt buckle in the parking lot im just proud to be way over 50' plus and still look good for my age and proud to have run with the wolves and you've done it to semper fi bro
1966-69 4th Force Recon. 1969-72 3rd ANGLICO MOS 7141 Airbourne Equipment Specialist (Rigger) Semper Fi
This is all awesome and thorough, As Marine with 1/6 BLT in Afghanistan, I saw a lot of ANGLICO in Action from FOB Marjah
USMC "Danger is Ours Business", Semper-Fi.
Cool explanation of different roles.
I doubt MARSOC will be around by FY2034. The Marines may down size soon ....
@@DavidLLambertmobile if anything the corps needs more government suppport.
Proud to be a FORCE RECON MARINE.❤️🇺🇸
I was like : " we are my Scout Snipers at!" then I realized they do not exist anymore..... SS 8541/0317 if you know you know....
Funny how different things seem 20 some odd years later. 2 deployments with a Marine Expeditiinary Unit (MEU) pre MARSOC, part of maritime special purpose force. Force did all direct action assaults, marine raiders were put together out of the BLT working as security forces, STA and Recon would be eyes forward and on any sniper initiated assaults. Months and months together doing interop training while being evaluated by a special operations training group in order for a SOC qualification before deploying. Good times.
I was in FAST company for a few years. It was fun. Alpha 5! Ooh rah!!
Ran with Charlie 3 and Alpha 3. Oorah brother
AF4 2010-12 was the best
12yrs as a 0311 I would roll with FAST !!
Who did you serve with?
@@davidwilliams5930 was 3/8 from 97 to 01, the security forces drops were always a shit show and a half. In our minds we got a bunch of Pogues corporals who didn't know shit about being infantry who thought they should be in charge. Not all of them, or maybe even most, but enough. One of my bro's was fast in 01 and was with the Iraq invasion, he straight up said that we just didn't do embassy stuff...Do find it interesting that when they formed Marsoc they pulled from the 4th MEB. At the time I think 3/8 was the large unit with any combat experience as a unit even if Kosovo was nothing like the shit storm that was coming later.
Great and conceal distinctions that makes so much sense when slighted different intention makes huge difference
I'm so proud of all you young war fighters, (Devil Dogs) you not only hold up old traditions you've raised the bar! Semper Fi brothers, old salt, (1963-1967).
Thank you for your service for the country sir.
Were you Recon? If so you may have known my pops
@@frankgraziano9759 Not Recon, Plt. Sgt. rifle platoon. Much respect to your Pops and all Recons for what they do without publicity, Semper Fi.
Cool video. Good breakdown of these units.
Thank you sir
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They call it slow company by the way. Those guys get shit out into victor units after 3 years and let me tell you they are anything but elite!
you scared me in the beginning, I thought I was put into an AOEII game and was confused for a second
Would definitely want to be a force recon corpsman or SARC as they are called nowadays. I can perform all the medical tasks would need some training in weapons and water activities.
Semper Fi and Happy Birthday from Pvt Jose and I. Brother Jose was a Vietnam War Hero who reenlisted as a Pvt in 1980 to come back to ANGLICO! I would also like to mention Major Dupras WWII Marine Raider who trained and lead UDT sailors in August of 1950!
Served as the field radio operator with 6th plt 1st Force Recon attached to 3rd Recon Bn 74-76
Did you get to go to Forcon training and get the wings/chute insignia?
Marine Security Forces.. 8152.. The GUN SLINGERS of the USMC. Only unit in the USA Arsenal, in which an Infantryman, will get SIGNIFICANTLY more trigger time with pistols\shotguns than any other unit in the Arsenal.
These are the Marines that you see on Aircraft Carriers. Masters of CQB on a ship. Better than any seal team, any delta. ON A SHIP that is..
These are the Marines that also guard the Navy weapon stations. With an emphasis on CQB.. and COUNTER CQB.
my dad was force recon vietnam. friend of mine was on a fast team.
Someone should have sent some of these great Marines when things were going south in Benghazi.
Blame killery
Clinton made sure this didn’t happen.
As I understand it, they were tac’d up ready to go but were stood down by on high 🤷🏻♂️ smh stupid DC nonsense
It was Special Forces waiting on a runway ready to go.
Force Recon and MARSOC
Thanks for sharing, SEMPER FI MARINES
RTT was good times.
Most of these units don't have selections. They're just units you can get assigned to. Besides the recon units, they're all just places you can work.
It's so awesome to see even the nerdiest sounding unit in this list is manned by some badasses. Army just kind throw their guys into a role and sending to a school. But marines make it their entire job, then attach them to more badass group and make sure they can hang when shit goes down.
You forgot the Amphibious Raid Company
Very nice won me on this one.
Thanks, I appreciate it!
26 MEUSOC here and I would love to run with raiders.
The rebirth of MARSOC aka MARINE RAIDERS was the SOF the United States needed
Why, what do they do different from Green Beret exactly?
@ntbroz7315 not much different but the Marines didn't want to integrate into spec ops because high brass already thought they were elite lol which they weren't.Try telling a bunch of regular marine grunts to do Delta Devgru and CIA operative training lol what a joke. This is all documented you can look it up. It was a whole dramatic thing bringing them into special operations for Socom and Jsoc.
Army, Navy, and Airforce dominate in special operations community while Marines have been playing catch up for decades. Facts
@@ntbroz7315 nothing much. Except MARSOC is full of marines. so its like sending the dogs on someone.
Not to take anything away from them but FORECON is not special operations. They are studs but technically they do not report through SOCOM.
Correct but they are special operations capable.
Doesn't matter. They have seen plenty of combat.
No our Force Recon does not report to SOCOM and we like it that way. Never wanted to be part of SOCOM to begin with and the Marine Corps was forced to bring Marine Raiders back into existence because some people in government hate to be told no. So now Force Recon can stay where they always belonged and Raiders can fill the SOCOM gap. In the words of Doc Holiday, "there now we can all be friends again."
@@defilade1066 It does matter......the 82nd Airborne "has seen plenty of combat" also, but that does not make them special operations.
@@terrarecon sure I get it, the Marine Corps wants to maintain control of their recon units, no problem. But with that control comes all of the conventional unit stupidity and limitations. Lower training budget, limited mission-sets, crappy equipment, slower promotions, less pay, silly rules, etc. etc.
Eas Mos was 8654 jump and scuba qualified reconnaissance Marine
MARINES are NOT SOLDIERS! I don't know why that isn't clear? US Navy=SAILORS, USAF=AIRMEN, US Coast Guard=GUARDSMEN, US Army=SOLDIERS, US Marine Corps=MARINES! I respect my bullet sponge brethren! Semper Fi!
Space Force = Space Cadets
Semper Fi Brother
Handbook for Marine NCO's (pg 64 ,1970) says marines have always been known as Soldiers of the Sea for centuries.
It's just more common saying soldier I mean yall do defend the country
They ARE soldiers...of the sea
Teufel hunden, devil dogs or hounds from hell.
I wish more people talked about the chemical boys 👀
I was an 0121 Admin Personnel Clerk Reservist.
Thanks for your service!
Unit Diary?......I had a secondary 0151 and served as a Remington Raider, attacking those keys like a bad MF'er
@@ernesthofmeister3054 The 0151s and the 0121s worked hand in hand. The 0151s did unit diary and the 0121s did Service Record Books, awards, etc. We often interchanged duties, and were indistinguishable from each other when it came to getting random duties.
@Adam-iq8rv
That was Company level, I worked Regimental S-3 and later 2ndMarDiv PC&AO (Personnel Classification and Assignment Office) as a Division Correspondence Clerk!......tough job, easy duty!
@@ernesthofmeister3054 then you were what we aspired to be. We were just glorified typists and extra manual labor.
Proud to have filled 3 of them.
Old USMC 1972-1983 Stationed mostly in Okinawa for 6 years with 1/4 , 2/4, 3/4 , 1/9 5th Marines, 3rd Mar Div. Recon, Force Recon. Trained at Forte Bragg, Fort Benning, Coronado, Jest Trained in the Philippians, Cold weather survival in Norway and Mount Fuji, ITR Camp Pendleton. A lot of training in Okinawa, Camp Lejeune and Camp Pendleton. Maybe some of us chewed the same dirt. OOrah, Semper Fi
Thanks for your service, Semper Fi!
MSG. Even CI/HUMINT while NOT accredited federal agents (like all other DOD CI. NOT in the DOD CI. as is AFOSI/ ACI/ NCIS) They used to have theater and national level assignments
Semper Fi 👍
How'd they leave out the Comm Bn? SMH
When he said that the Forward Artillery Observers in ANGLICO are "the only US military unit that can call in fire support from the air, sea, and land all at once"-----that is wrong. The Air Force's TACP can do the SAME EXACT THING and do it on a regular basis.
My dad was in First Force Recon i believe 61-64? I may be off a couple years. But i do know he was in Cambodia and Vietnam WAAYYYYY before they say troops were. Or i should say MILITARY ADVISOR!!!
Semper Fi Brothers! Get Some!
2/12 Fox Battery - gun rock
Semper Fi Jarheads!
Any of them!
You forgot 6th Marines.😊
What happened to the scout snipers ?
Seems like there's a lot of redundancy here. All of these jobs look like they can be covered by Force Recon, Recon or MARSOC. Maybe some of these units fall under the umbrella of Recon, so that would make sense. Still, they all sound like very cool jobs.
The Marine Corp is full of redundancy . Every Marine a rifleman its built into there culture. Had a buddy in boot camp from PR. Dude was a machine. PT and could handle his own. His mos was sanitation. Remember the Corps gets the least funding of all the services. They make due with what they have on hand at the time. So that redundancy is on purpose.
@@kraccusblack1022
There's probably a lot I don't understand about the founding of the military, but it seems like the Marine Corps has always been underserved. If we've got enough money to give away billions to foreign crony "allies" of the illegal Biden Administration, who've usurped power from the true president and The People, then I don't see why they can't slide a billion or two to the Corps.
It's weird, because if the military is going to back the play of a bunch of azzholes who would deem themselves our kings, you would think that the Powers would grant the Corp more money. However, it does seem that the Marine Corps is the service that is least rolled into this new regime of traitorous assholez
15th MEU SOC aircrew here. Worked with all the units mentioned here, and yes there IS redundancy in them. The Marine Corps is the most capable and adaptable fighting force in the entire world.
All will hopefully be under MARSOC one day, right now it’s only Raiders under the MARSOC
MARSOC wanted a slice of the SO funding. So it was born.
Actually, DOD forced the Marines to form MARSOC, the Marines are traditionally looked at as special troops or shock troops. That's why the original Raiders were disbanded just a couple of years after formation.
The special culinary team to feed angry marines
forgot the 4 recon battalions
Yes I accept that was a miss
Good basic overview....
Me and mysock. Want a spot. Part of the elite one man operator
Their jobs is to admire the airborne 75 regiment Rangers RRC 🇺🇸 with all the respect🙏🏼
Also can you make a video just as in-depth as this one on delta force?
Delta disbanded in 2005. It's ACE or CAG now.... Army Combative Elements.
@@DavidLLambertmobile oh i see
@@DavidLLambertmobile bro who cares you can call it delta
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Force Recon is the best of the best, and if you don't believe that just ask them. 🤣 Marine Corps Infantry. We stick around and slug it out.
I agree, Force Recon Marines are a force to be reckoned with!
I was recon Marine in the 80’s, was asked by a grunt Lt, why do you recon guys think you are so special then everyone. I said we don’t think that, we are just grunts with different missions. After that we became friends!
Nothing like green berets
marsoc kind of fits in that slot...with a hint of seal due to maritime ops.
I went thru CounterGuerrillaWarfareSchool at Ft. Bragg 50 yrs ago with 5th and 7th SFG, worked with 1st, 10th and 19th SFG also. Great guys, but a completely different mission than USMC ops. Their main job is to train indigenous troops in guerrilla warfare.
So what unit did you serve with?
@@wyomarine-m5s 7th SFG
ANGLICO is not an elite unit.
ComCam most elite unit
Everybody knows, the H&S company is the force to roll with..........
Calling fast and anglico elite is a fing stretch and a half
Had. Some war game Us marine VS gurkha contingent. In Singapore. Gurkha won.
Why is MARSOC considered Tier 2?
Not related to the first question, but I've often heard people sh!t on MARSOC when comparing sf units, but seems to me they would be some of the biggest bad@sses out there being marines AND special forces ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Trir system is not a ranking system rather it is a funding system
The best crayon eaters of all!
Force Recon isn't SOF...
No, they are SOC. do the same stuff though
@@slamdancer1720 yeah most definitely capable but not employed in such capacity though, that’s why they transition to over so SF or MARSOC.
ANGLICOs are a lot more similar to Air Force TACPs that CCTs. Also, they are NOT the only specialty that can call for fire air, land, and sea. TACPs and CCTs can as well and were doing so before ANGLICO.
Seems like all these marine units are just clones of units that already existed in other branches.
Yes but for amphibious warfare
@@hamie7624 The reason for that is they were created to only support the Marine Corps besides Raiders. Raiders are basically Green Berets. Their training regimen was helped set up by Green Berets. There must be a need for it because the Marine Corps was FORCED to assign Marines to SOCOM, but the entire purpose of the redundancy is for having all of those elements ONLY supporting the Marine Corps.
Yes, you are correct. Not to take away from the grunts but CCT guys and TACPs have been doing this.
Actually you have that backwards. ANGLICO started as JASCO back in WWII before there was an airforce. I went to Army jump school in 1980. We had some para rescue guys but no mention of fac teams.
I would start with recon and slip into RTT. CQB is boring
RTT is part of USMC Security Forces. They aren't as high speed as Force Recon but fun nonetheless... or at least in the late 90s at Kings Bay it was fun.
Fast company literally dont do shit at all
They got deployed to Haiti this year and some of those guys got CARs from what I heard
Why is everybody against fast company?
@@Grid88 they hate them because they ain’t them I’d assume.
@Grid88 they get to the fleet act like they know stuff but all they know is defense, not any actual infantry stuff.
@@Grid88they show up to the fleet just a clueless and inexperienced as the boots but they have some rank so there more unwilling to listen and learn, and get put in a billet that reflects there rank leaving a huge experience gap in leadership roles. Give me a fresh boot straight out of SOI anyday.
I think they need to get rid of fast. Just send infantry. They sent us (weapons company) to Yemen in 2014-2015.
Straight up send in the grunts to do security for American embassies
I think FAST deserves more missions then DC offers them
@rudolfrednose5604 you must not know marine security guards are infantry the reason they're different because they do infantry training then go do embassy training in Virginia so don't speak on things if you don't know too much about
@@lunyolieny4463 exactly if there infantry why the fuck do they need fast teams and marine security guards, instead of cutting the scout sniper program they should of cut msg and made everyone go to a infantry unit
@@rudolfrednose5604 marine Security guard is a complete different billet than Fast or security plt
Come on know your shit before commenting. Marine security forces is the first job in the marine corps for starters. Men were Recruited to guard naval vessels and personnel during 1775 . So unless you’re a general or a commander you have no say on what units you deem worthy.
Wouldn’t wanna be a domestic terrorist here!😂
A sarc saves them
Now days reality ? 🤷🏼♂️
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There’s nothing elite about Anglico or Fast.
The marine security forces are a joke, they are undertrained rifleman, after they would complete their two year commitment and return to the infantry they would suck
I wish US-Marine Corps has theyre own version of Devgru And Delta-Force
It's long, so first off I apologize.
Marine Corps was DEVGRU (in capacity) before SEALs were even a thing. The Marine Corps belongs to the Navy. Part of Its primary purpose was to allow the sailors to do naval things (manage ships) while Marines provided security and were committed to direct force on force. After the Marine Raiders of WWII was disbanded Marine Recon was further developed into Force Recon in the 1950's. The Navy provided funding and later pulled/reduced said funding and decided that they wanted their frogmen underwater demolition guys under the Navy banner to become an elite small force on force unit. The Navy used the training template of Force Recon to get things rolling for SEALs. Technically, all the Navy did was halt the evolution of Force Recon and redirect existing resources to create a redundant initial copy cat of Force Recon, and then evolve the SEALs to where they are now. The missions the SEALs do are very needed, the SEALs as an organization was never needed, because the Navy through the Marine Corps already had Force Recon that could have had a separate unit specially designated for rotation of the missions SEALs do now. It's not a SEAL diss, those guys are patriots because they are dedicated Americans, not because they are in the SEALs. This is a prime example of how our government wastes money and creates countless agencies within the military as well as non-military, such as the FBI, ATF, and DEA. Why not just have special FBI units that focus on those areas instead of recreating the wheel??
@@terrarecontrue, but sometimes it's better to have "dedicated", seperate "independent" units & agencies. That "specialisation" & redundancy can come in handy, at times
@@marstuv5068 I don't argue that it's good to have dedicated units depending on the need. However, too much redundancy can be a waste. How many special units does the military need? I mean, there are Rangers, Green Berets, Delta, MARSOC, Force Recon, Recon, Navy Seals, and the list goes on and on. My argument was about the Navy wasting resources and creating an entirely new organization when it could have simply carved out a component of Force Recon for those missions they claimed they needed to create Seals for. In that instance, a special Marine unit is a dedicated independent unit that serves the goals of the Navy. Remember, the Navy actually owns the Marine Corps.
The German army never called them devil dogs.
USMC base in Germany, The Unites States Marines are in Germany, they have their own military base there also.
@@ii-iiiii6686 yea that has nothing to do with what I said does it?
Are you just saying it was the German translation
@@flight2k5 most people have a nose and 2 ears!
@@michaeld.4521yeah they did. It was from WW1, the Germans said they just kept coming and coming like they coming from hell, they called them Devil Dogs.
If you don’t believe just ask your momma, she’ll tell ya they kept coming and coming 😆🤣😂
FAST. Fake Ass Seal Team
Kylemartin, say what you want in a negative fashion, I will take a Marine component over Navy Seal anytime, anywhere!
FAST typical Marines doing more with less.
MARSOC is Tier 1 not 2.
No it isn't.
SOCOM does not even use this tier system that was created outside SOCOM's official structure.
Tier 1. Only DEVGRU, Delta, Ranger Recon Company, and 160th., and a couple of other very low profile units are Tier 1. But one should not get caught up with the categories. Force Recon, Seal Team 1,2,3,4, SF, MARSOC, are all
Very capable. It you want to kill and destroy I will still take a Marine Infantry Company. Ooh Rahhh
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Join the U.S. Army!
Or don’t…that’s an option
Alot do after they get out, when they realize its the only way they'll actually get combat experience.
Go Army
@Tomhawk3 Marine deployment in a MEU has a higher probability of involvement in a combat theater than army deployments.
@luisdavila4003 maybe regular Army, but even then... not really.
Marines are taking away scout sniper and MARSOC and RECON will fade away aswell go army
don't forget, they also get rid their tank battalion
Yep, they are. Rather, join the army because they're not doing anything currently, and marines have badass units but in the same time it's not worth it going with that full pipeline and not doing action with your job.
@@zer0_carti8377 Yes. All the opportunities are in the army
@@zer0_carti8377If/when something jumps off... They'll reactive them.
Then why was USASOC’s funding cut this year while MARSOC’s was boosted??
The most racist branch
Yeah, notice all those White males in the USMC Special Operations and their toxic masculinity? That’s because the “others” can’t hack it, but that doesn’t make them racist. Get good, bruh. Step up or sit down.
Stupid
Let me fix that for you: "The least DEI branch."
@@MVK_GS And it's just a coincidence that they're also the objectively weakest and most useless branch, right? The weakest airman is an order of magnitude more badass than even the most seasoned MARSOC 'operator'. Diversity is our strength, chud.
Thank you for your service but I don't have any spare change right now.
This can make one hell of a recruitment ad. Better than the barracks bunny with the two moms.
Raiders are the way
What's the "88" for? The year you were born, or something else? Asking for a friend. 😂😂 also, MARSOC is being dismantled. The Crayon Overlords have decided they dont need a highly skilled Marine SOF unit in SOCOM.
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