You have to fix a dummy resistor load and feed it sinwave. Measure the output voltage and calculate the wattage it is outputting. By changing to a beefy Transistors does not translate to bigger power amp while still retaining the same power supply.
The 5200 have 150 watts power...and the 2922 have 200 watts!! But the 2922 is faster (50Mhz).... than the 30Mhz 5200! The driver must deliver the right current to drive the power dissipation you want. And when you install a variable resistor for the idle current adjustment, you can drive every transistor you want.
I do have a suggestion: Run a jumper wire from the unused emitter pad, to the emitters of the transistors, so the amplifier will maintain proper bias current, and output impedance. Otherwise, you're passing twice the current through the one emitter follower for each side of the amp, which makes it less capable of supplying full current to the speaker. It could cause zero-crossing distortion, as a result of the reduced bias current.(assuming the beta of both the toshiba and Sanken transistors is similar)
Que tal amigo, vi hace algún tiempo este video, pero no debemos irnos con la "finta" solo chequemos que marcas y tipos de amplificadores llevan los transistores 2SA1943 y 2SC5200 y la demanda que tienen. Un comentario para pensar en esto, es que si tienes una fuente de alimentación que solo proporciona 100 watts, jamas podremos obtener un par de watts mas, recordemos aquello referente a la energía, "que no podemos crearla ni destruirla" aunque para este caso, no podemos crearla de la nada. Los transistores sanken solo muestran una aparente ganancia mayor a los de Toshiba, pero a final de cuentas entregarán la misma potencia. Lo anterior es tan solo algo que he aprendido en la escuela y mi trabajo. Pienso que es una pena el no poder conseguir los transistores de Sanken de forma tan fácil como los transistores de Toshiba. Por cierto buen video, saludos desde el estado de Veracruz..
En este vídeo se puede ver claramente que cuando retira la soldadura de los transistores para extraerlos se puede ver claramente que no es la soldadura original de fabrica y que ya estos componentes fueron extraídos anterior mente
Gak bisa ditiru ,kurang profersional mestinya ada peralatan osiloskop, generator , baru bisa dibuktikan mana yg low noise, band withnya berapa dll itu baru bisa dibuat perbandingan .minimal test audio.
I don´t understand for what to change these transistors.If 5200 are original,they are excelent for this kind of aplications. Sanken are good transistors as well but is not necesary to change. By avoiding one pair, the power output decreases. And now you don´t have enough space por place the giant 4 devices there.
Exactly this video does not make any sense at all. First of all 5200 has higher tdp i don't even know which manual he was reading but probably none. Secondly, if the sanken transistor needs 5A to drive it means for him it's a better transistor than i don't know something 😂😂😂 which is totally possible. 3rdly, now days to get thoose sanken crap it's very difficult cuz all of them Chinese fake ones. So any time i have trouble with this ancient transistors i just ordering the 5200 instead of it and i've never had any problem with them.
Solo le resto potencia a la placa. Los 4 5200 dan 200w y los 2 2922 dan solo 125 w. Hubiera montado los 4 grandes pero la placa no da espacio para ellos. Esos 4 dan 250w
2sc5200 + 2sa1943 = 100 w RMS optimal... if it exceeds the performances worsen Sanken little more. Take the maximum dissipable power of the weakest of the couple and divide by 2.... Don't go further
It would be similar, if he jumpered the unused emitter pads to the emitters of the single transistors. Otherwise, the amplifier will have lower bias current, and won't be able to drive low impedance loads. By using only 2 of the emitter follower resistors, he turned a 4Ω amplifier into an 8Ω amp.
I have a kenwood KA-128 amplifier, with 2 burnt transistors. On the internet you can buy but most come from china, they are fake. Their references are: Sanken: 2SA1215 and 2SC2921. Would you have any idea of an equivalent to replace, toshiba perhaps? Thank you in advance, friend.
You can use for instance onsemi MJL4281A / MJL4302A, or MJW21193 MJW21194 or MJL21193 /MJL21194 or MJL21195 + MJL21196G, they are all 200w transistor or more, but you must change all of your output transistor in your amplifier, not just this dead two. And it is very important that all of your output transistor should be paired, so that al pairs have same or similar HFE
The Toshiba transistor is Fake! I have bought sanken transistors also fake, with iron legs and cooling plate (magnetic). Try to use original parts like ON Semi: MJL21193 & MJL21194 16A,250V,200W
My Kenwood KM-208 uses the Sanken 2922 & is rated at 155wpc into 8 ohms @ 0.015% THD. Very clean & plenty of power.
Single pair per channel?
Power sanken tuk bas ( deb deb / bas reflex ) pendek, toshiba tuk mid dan twiter lebih jernih. Ampl. Denon aq punya pakai sanken.
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You have to fix a dummy resistor load and feed it sinwave. Measure the output voltage and calculate the wattage it is outputting. By changing to a beefy Transistors does not translate to bigger power amp while still retaining the same power supply.
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The 5200 have 150 watts power...and the 2922 have 200 watts!!
But the 2922 is faster (50Mhz).... than the 30Mhz 5200!
The driver must deliver the right current to drive the power dissipation you want.
And when you install a variable resistor for the idle current adjustment, you can drive every transistor you want.
you're right bro why he posting wrong info?
My confusion is clear thank u so much bro👍
Are speaker na fhat jai👍👍👍 nice video
Muito legal , são coisas q nos temos q aprender , obrigado pela boa dica 👏👏👏👏
I do have a suggestion: Run a jumper wire from the unused emitter pad, to the emitters of the transistors, so the amplifier will maintain proper bias current, and output impedance. Otherwise, you're passing twice the current through the one emitter follower for each side of the amp, which makes it less capable of supplying full current to the speaker. It could cause zero-crossing distortion, as a result of the reduced bias current.(assuming the beta of both the toshiba and Sanken transistors is similar)
Wrong....2sc5200 is 150watts.
And so is the 2sa1943.
150 watts as well
Que tal amigo, vi hace algún tiempo este video, pero no debemos irnos con la "finta" solo chequemos que marcas y tipos de amplificadores llevan los transistores 2SA1943 y 2SC5200 y la demanda que tienen. Un comentario para pensar en esto, es que si tienes una fuente de alimentación que solo proporciona 100 watts, jamas podremos obtener un par de watts mas, recordemos aquello referente a la energía, "que no podemos crearla ni destruirla" aunque para este caso, no podemos crearla de la nada.
Los transistores sanken solo muestran una aparente ganancia mayor a los de Toshiba, pero a final de cuentas entregarán la misma potencia.
Lo anterior es tan solo algo que he aprendido en la escuela y mi trabajo.
Pienso que es una pena el no poder conseguir los transistores de Sanken de forma tan fácil como los transistores de Toshiba.
Por cierto buen video, saludos desde el estado de Veracruz..
What was the difference?
Sankennya harusnya yang oryginal jaid kualitasnya bisa kelihatan. Sedangkan 4RB itu versi jeleknya, yang lumayan bagus 5DY/ 7DY
Sotoy, 4RB/5DY itu LOT
Hola buenas tardes , buen video
Por sierto en que pagina web puedo comprar transistores originales pero que hagan envio al todo pais
Sir car amplifier me tip35c ki jagah pe njw0281g lga sakte hai kya
Thanks 👍 information
En este vídeo se puede ver claramente que cuando retira la soldadura de los transistores para extraerlos se puede ver claramente que no es la soldadura original de fabrica y que ya estos componentes fueron extraídos anterior mente
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I love the preamp!
Nganggo sanken seng 3858 lueh joss
Sir do you mean sanken is best within Toshiba transistor .
he try to compare. but the video is not comparing.
HOW TO KNOW 5200 -----50 WATT ---- DATA SAID 150 WATT
You can chk the data sheet using google
What's called this beautiful song?
Good work nice work
Sir kya 600 Toshiba wala board me soonken 2sc2922 laga sakte hay kya
Gak bisa ditiru ,kurang profersional mestinya ada peralatan osiloskop, generator , baru bisa dibuktikan mana yg low noise, band withnya berapa dll itu baru bisa dibuat perbandingan .minimal test audio.
Mksih tutorial sangat membantu sukses
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Nice video bro👌👌👌👌👌
Sir which is best Sanken or Toshiba ?
SANKEN is much better in power, speed and clean signal, etc.
Sanken transistor onde se vende esses transistor amigo, e desde já obrigado fica um like.
No eBay encontra, no mercado livre, até um tempo atrás TB tinha, hj em dia não sei.
The good pair Sanken is 134watts in 1%THD. And 146watts in 4~5% THD distorção.
Saken trans = 150w in load 8ohm. Tosiba = 110w in load 8 ohm
Nice content..
I love and like my sanken.
Es buen video pero no explicas que tensiones eléctricas estas utilizando y que capacitores.
Pero te esta mostrando al prinsipio no seas pendejo se supone para un amplidicador de 100 wats se usa capasitores de 1800 uf50volt
I don´t understand for what to change these transistors.If 5200 are original,they are excelent for this kind of aplications. Sanken are good transistors as well but is not necesary to change. By avoiding one pair, the power output decreases. And now you don´t have enough space por place the giant 4 devices there.
Exactly this video does not make any sense at all. First of all 5200 has higher tdp i don't even know which manual he was reading but probably none. Secondly, if the sanken transistor needs 5A to drive it means for him it's a better transistor than i don't know something 😂😂😂 which is totally possible. 3rdly, now days to get thoose sanken crap it's very difficult cuz all of them Chinese fake ones. So any time i have trouble with this ancient transistors i just ordering the 5200 instead of it and i've never had any problem with them.
Whats does best teniter saneken or thosiba
The power amplifier built up, not use sanken😃
Solo le resto potencia a la placa. Los 4 5200 dan 200w y los 2 2922 dan solo 125 w. Hubiera montado los 4 grandes pero la placa no da espacio para ellos. Esos 4 dan 250w
2sC5200 and 2sA1943 in pair group 2pçs. Max Power rate is 120w +5% THD distorction distorção harmônic. 95w in 1%THD Real meter.
Very nice sir
Vi 1943 ar jaygay 1494 abog 5200 ar jaygay 2922 lagate parbo ki?
Great work. Thank you.
Bhai apka subwoofer ka link do plz mujshe bhi lena hai woh 🔥
Bang itu tr finalnya diganti sama tr sanken aja bang biar wattnya gede
Were you bought 2922
Kidhar se kharida hai.
Excellent
Sir mujhe 2sc 2922 ke 6pair chahiye
With maica se sat
Kya aap mujhe bta sakte h
Kitne k padega with coriyar
Original brand
Please sir please..
2sc5200 + 2sa1943 = 100 w RMS optimal... if it exceeds the performances worsen
Sanken little more.
Take the maximum dissipable power of the weakest of the couple and divide by 2.... Don't go further
Toshiba 100watts and sanken 150watts
Nope. You are not getting a better amplifier by replacing those transistors by the sanken.
It would be similar, if he jumpered the unused emitter pads to the emitters of the single transistors. Otherwise, the amplifier will have lower bias current, and won't be able to drive low impedance loads. By using only 2 of the emitter follower resistors, he turned a 4Ω amplifier into an 8Ω amp.
How about you explain why instead of just making a statement that could be made by anyone?
Nice music. 👌
Good job..
Can we use 2sc3264 and their compliment sanken transistor in same circuit.
los transistores toshiba 5200 y 1943 son mejores en sonido los grandes distorsionan mucho
C 5198 A 1941 2 set 35-0-35 ok sar amper???
Why didn't you put on all four instead of two
The best thosiba...
Интересно конечно, только выдаёт ли транс нужный ток? Судя с искры на кз, при столь тонких проводах, то нет
Sir it is a request for a new video how to make power bank in battery 32560 ~20000mah and show how to esabbile PCB modouile
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Joss
So this is 3 time better then 2se5200 ?
How u detect the ic watts??
For better result use STK4050
How about MJL 21194/6?
Awesome
Отличный конструктор.
Total watt for this 2 transister
Sanken vs Toshiba Air Pump Amplifier presentacion ???
Where is the concrete differential ?
My name is Sanken
Transformer Output AC koto volt ?
Creo q el traductor Toshiba da 100w o 90 vean bn sis página y ay verás no da 50 sino 100
Apa kelebihan dan kekurangan keduanya mas broo???
Pake bahasa Inggris goblok, dia gatau bahasa indo tolol
Kelebihanya sanken lebih mahal ketimbang toshiba....
This is mono??
Really output increase
muchas gracias....
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Excellent.
I have a kenwood KA-128 amplifier, with 2 burnt transistors.
On the internet you can buy but most come from china, they are fake.
Their references are: Sanken:
2SA1215 and 2SC2921.
Would you have any idea of an equivalent to replace, toshiba perhaps?
Thank you in advance, friend.
You can use for instance onsemi MJL4281A / MJL4302A, or MJW21193 MJW21194 or MJL21193 /MJL21194 or MJL21195 + MJL21196G, they are all 200w transistor or more, but you must change all of your output transistor in your amplifier, not just this dead two. And it is very important that all of your output transistor should be paired, so that al pairs have same or similar HFE
El sanken es mejor que toshiba
Ado c5200 150watts
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where can I get this pcb and circuit diagram , will you help me
Hello sir 2sc2922 transistor price kiya hai
That poor iron need to be cleaned and re-tined, it is badly oxidised.
Thank you for poor vision
আমাকে 2 SC 3858 2SA 1494 দেয়া যাবে,
কত করে পর্বে দাম ১পিছ করে মোট ১৬ টা আমার লাগবে
SANKEN don't produce transistors in MT-200 case from 07.2018
Yet you can still buy them today if you look
Pensé que encontraría una comparación real, pero esto es solo un cambio de transistores. Pena!
Which one is stronger
WHAT IS THE NAME OF HEAT SINK CURRENT INSULATING GRAY COLOR LAYER
Con esos tranistores se vuelven sonido mono yano stereo eso es la desventaja
The Toshiba transistor is Fake! I have bought sanken transistors also fake, with iron legs and cooling plate (magnetic). Try to use original parts like ON Semi: MJL21193 & MJL21194 16A,250V,200W
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Apni je speaker use koresen seta koto inch r koto watts price koto
Esse é do bom
very wrong c5200 is 100watts not 50
Ngising nang kebon cokoti lemud,
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