Self Defense Sparring During Edged Weapons Overview with Craig Douglas
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- Опубліковано 25 сер 2024
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Thats great training.
People who understand "realism" as a boolean variable (as opposed to a spectrum) are people who have not only never trained fighting, but have probably never actually trained anything (sports, shooting, music, etc.). Training has to steadily build upon itself from simple to complex, from low stress learning to high stress testing. If you go straight to "realistic" then whatever learning you do is at best trial and error. Its not the systematic building of capability.
When I explain my philosophy on training, I explain it as there being four variables that contribute to realism:
Scripting - Do you know what the opponent is going to do? Do you know what you have to do?
Compliance - Does the opponent allow you to do what you want to do (at any point)?
Restriction - Are the full range of techniques available to you?
Stress/Comfort/Risk - Will you suffer if you fail? (pain, fatigue, embarrassment, etc.)
If you think of those four variables as sliders, then you can turn any of them up or down to increase/decrease realism according to what you're trying to get out of the training -- learning vs practicing vs testing vs proving skills? work on single skill vs complex skill? work on coordination vs judgment vs endurance vs combination?
Very good explanation... thank you.
Thank you. Happy to contribute.
VERY well said 💪🏾💪🏾
Great explanation, thanks :)
Excellent points! Thanks for sharing!
Who in their right mind would call that unrealistic? It's like the most realistic I have ever seen or been through anywhere. Thank you for sharing all this.
Keep tabs on this comment section lol... the idiots got here early.
"Unless you're actually stabbing each other with real knives, I'm calling shenanigans."
- Some basement-dwelling keyboard warrior, probably
It's practice. Why would willingly not where proper protection!?! For the people that make asinine comments please think before you speak/comment. There is a saying about being quiet and letting people think your dumb instead of talking and proving them right
reality has way more blood for one. not to mention the screaming and grunting from people piercing each other. The odor, like my god this is not realistic XD.
oh i forgot there's more. the crunch of bone and flesh on entry. The resistance of a blade entering a person. the feeling of driving a blade into someone. need I go on? How, can you see this as realistic. this is actually more dangerous than anything. get some random person to think they can fight against a knife because they trained for it. This is internet autism at it's finest.
I'm a HEMA instructor that focuses primarily on medieval dagger, and it's really interesting to me to see Craig's take on this topic. I recently made some changes to my curriculum to make it more of a "historical self-defense" class, and something I noticed is that when you make it a "first-to-get-hit" ruleset, you see a lot of point-fighting where the goal is to get in and out as quickly as possible... and no one actually uses any of the historical techniques. It makes it super unrealistic, and it ends up looking a lot like the no-headgear sparring that Mike did in this video.
As soon as you change the ruleset to something more realistic, like "You need to get 3 stabs within 5 seconds", suddenly, it starts looking a lot more like the historical techniques, as you need to prioritize control of your opponent's weapon, and it ends up looking a lot more like the wrestling and ground-fighting shown earlier in the video.
Obviously the changes in blade design, clothing, etc play a pretty big part in making the styles and training different, but it's interesting to me how similar it all ends up. I wonder how much of the wheel Craig tried to re-invent, or if he looked at the same sources we use before developing his system.
I am also a hema instructor at palm beach sword school. Ive had the same exact experience. Also having students start drills in groups with there daggers sheathed and not knowing who will be the attacker had some very interesting results, that very much ended in grappling and not the weird point sparring knife duel. That being said we sometimes the drill is exactly that. A knife duel to first "blood" touch. They are two diferent skills that we train separately.
Yep, the medieval method cut the hands off. That guy's method pokey pokey.
Great point. I think both modalities of training bring out two major aspects of knife fighting: distance management/range, and control of your opponent's body.
@@merlinbooper6756 for dagger, not really. Actually, exactly the opposite. A lot of daggers used for war fighting didn't even have edges. It was more of an icepick.
That was a pretty nice ruleset you got there, anymore you might wanna share ? I'm trying to figure out a better ruleset that's really represent a scramble between 2 persons trying to fight for each other's weapon. The first touch rules is getting too old and people i trained with starting to feel that we couldn't learn anything more from it besides super sensitive timing and distancing
EWO/ECQC spoiled me on what a self defense curriculums can be. It’s made me a lot more discerning on “self defense” style classes going forward
Yeah... makes you realize what training _should_ look like.
Saaaaame. After years of my BJJ teacher telling me that this kind of training wasn't "realistic" I attended ECQC. I agree with you Mike, It was the very best training I've had of anything. I learned more in that weekend than two years of training. Craig is the gold standard and it's been a life changing experience.
I took a rapier seminar on how to deal with an opponent who won't acknowledge A hit and one of the drills was for your partner to just go full ham sewing machine of death mode. Even though I knew I was completely safe, the fact that my partner just kept coming in heedless was pretty intense. Some of the more sheltered people in the class were shaken up, having never faced that level of aggression even in competition. I think it's even more so with this. You need to be trying things under pressure with an uncooperative partner. Limited target sets and gear allow you to hone specific skills.
I can add only this, (I agree with you) but the worst 'partner' you can get in martial arts, specifically ju jitsu is a beginner that has seen too much hollywood and wants to look good? You have shared a technique, you have thrown him carefully and slowly, now it's his turn and you leave yourself wide open to his 'technique', which is garbage, he suck's at this, didn't understand even the basics but is strong enough to grab your arm and slam you into the ground as hard as he can? I have met more than one person like this, they don't tend to last in full contact. Yes, I totally agree there should be 'unscripted' full force fighting but you need to have trust in your training partners.
Pax sirrah.
Man violence is no joke. Friend of mine got in a fight, had most of his temporal lobe removed from his brain afterwards due to head trauma. He'll never be the same. All from what seemed to start as a simple scrap. Be safe and train hard my friends. And thanks for the video.
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Geez man...I'm sorry about your friend. Prayers to him though....God why can't people just be fucking civil it's incredible how just being decent and peaceful is impossible to expect from people. It really sucks actually.
Jesus, what exactly happened if you don't mind me asking? Sorry to hear
"if you dont stab and kill the other person, its not realistic" - that one guy in the comments 😂
I'm imagining him in a fedora.
It's true.
I bet few on here been in a knife fight.
Some people run away as soon as they're cut....some get angrier .
Stabs diff from slicing.... either can kill or maim .
These exercises are ok but do not take a person's desire to continue a knife fight if cut.
When you bleed there is no doubt you are on death's door.
I'll end it like this UA-cam has billions of viewers...eventually someone in the comments knows what they're talking about .... I'm that someone.
Go ask an ER doctor...an emt or a police or military person .
Everything I said can be verified.
So realistic? Nopey nope.
@@KortovElphame Yes so the context of my joke was aimed at people who refuse training of any kind due to the "lack of realism" coz in a knife fight you're going to get stabbed. Yet somehow the same type of person believe they are able to do well in a knife fight despite not engaging in any training. :) Thanks for commenting
I was in a knife fight and died so if you ever need tips ask me, who is dead.
@@davidgeldner2167 based and real! Ask your dead ancestors how they died so you can learn from their mistakes!
I bought a pair of hard2hurt black&orange Revgear gloves which were stolen (along with my bag and all my other training gear) from just inside the doorway of the Muay Thai gym I train at just last night.
Now I'm rewatching all of Icy Mike's bareknuckle boxing and knife defense videos in preparation for getting those no-longer-sold gloves BACK
Daaaaaannnng man that sucks. I think though it would still be more efficient from both temporal and financial standpoints just to buy new gloves rather than become a hardened criminal on a path to vengeance. I've got a video coming out on Friday reviewing the S5s. Consider those lol.
@@hard2hurt God damn it Mike. You just ruined a perfectly good origin story.
No in all honesty I went around all the pawnshops in town to let them know, filed a police report, and asked several mid-40s ex-gang members to keep an eye out for them with a cash reward.
But I wouldn't mind finding the guy and having a streetbeefs-style backyard brawl, with the winner earning the gloves
Hey man... if you can, hit me up on IG and I'll see if I can't sort out a pair of gloves for you.
Hard2Hurt is a lifesaver. From the flashlight to using a Car for real world defense. I took a lot from this video Mike. many here in Trinidad carry blades thinking they can fight with them. I have to show some of my folks this video!
Craig might be the best self defence instructor of all time. Planning on going to EWO in a couple of months!
Top two combative instructors Craig Douglas and Greg Thompson. In my opinion each has their specialization. It was an honor to train with both of them. The EWO course was amazing and I was able to take a lot from the course.
Was good to train with you again bro. Will have to bring you up to NC next year.
This looks a lot like what we did at my FMA school! These courses seem like a great time!
It really does look like you go into boxing mode, even saw you slipping shots with head movement which I didn't think would be a thing with a weapon involved
The Vinny boot spin on the groin was nasty stuff!!! This new Timberland Jiu Jitsu is next generation urban warfare. The Vinny boot scrotal spin will be my go to from now on.
I was able to train with Craig a few weeks ago during a BJJ seminar here in Pittsburgh and only now realized why he looked familiar! He was a really great training partner.
3:03 "But then I start giving him the business up the gooch."
Instant classic!
Thanks for being humble.
Combative edge / knife fighting and defense is no easy walk through class. I was literally bruised, sore, and wore out. The craziest thing, I am looking forward to learning and training more. So eye opening on so many levels.
Ngl when I saw those dummy knives my brain immediately thought, “What’s with the carrots?”
Icy Mike is on a different level! He turns defense into offense! LOL does not back out or look for an exit! Great level changes even with weapons!
I would love to train with Craig Douglas. But the Atlantic costs a whole lot of money to cross, so I settle for watching him online. (His stuff on WPSN is top tier!)
He teaches in a few different countries.
He’s in Europe on an almost yearly basis, IIRC.
I actually laughed out loud when you said why don't we use a real knife.
It's only a slight exaggeration of how stupid these comments are.
I love the faceshielded boxing helmets.
3 point system per round is something Ive always advocated because people dont die in 1 hit.
Man this is a great training. I completely agree with you. I am a professor of martial arts, and teach in martial sports club. So when it comes to training for this kind of situations I can confirm this is as real as it gets without being seriously hurt or in the real situation. Just keep it up man, and keep it up giving us this great videos. I really like when I get confirmation when I am doing the same thing, or new Idea or to correct my self if I am doing something wrong.
And I get why many people don't get this, it's something really specific for that kind of situations, and many people, thanks god, don't have anything to do with this kind of situation and that's ok. This is more for us, martial art enthusiasts. And yes, it's emotionally, mentally and physically really hard training.
Cheers 💪👊👍
My goal is take a couple of his courses this year. Great video
Do it.
@@hard2hurt oh i will
"Why aren't you using a real knife?" lmao
How are you gonna build tolerance to getting stabbed otherwise?
Gotta learn to be harder than steel and faster than bullets 😂
When I first saw this, I thought it was a re-upload. Really like Craig and hope to train with him one day.
This is what I've been looking for, I have always seen fake weapon handling courses same with knives, gonna have to check this out because in this short video there are many other skills and need to know how's that he teaches in these courses. Thanks for an eye opener as usual Big ice
Love this. Funny the 2 on 1 reminds me of when we trained pugil sticks in Marine Corps boot camp. That was brutal, fantastic training. We started one on one and then did the 2 on 1. They would generally take a really big guy and put him against two smaller guys. For the solo guy, it was all about taking out one of the opponents as fast as possible, to get it back to a 1 v 1 match.
But the most tired, the most exhausted I've ever been in my life was full on pugil stick training. That includes everything else I've ever done, even wrestling, forced marches and actual war/combat service.
I really wanna see a video of Craig talking about how he carries knives like wair, why, and how he might set those up
The other aspect that I think people don't realize with weapons training is that there is no 100% perfect simulation. What you need to do is recognize the flaws in ever drill, rule-set, or game and do other things that have complementing strengths and weaknesses.
The other aspect? No. That's the thing. That's the thing I'm saying.
@@hard2hurt Nope you're right. I was initially thinking that about the repetition that also needs to be added to it, but you did cover both points.
Ty this is the best footage of a quality training coarse. This should replace most schools in my area
I love this. It wasn’t until I was able to do full speed weapons sparring that I learned to apply the skills I had practiced through martial arts.
It's always interesting in these videos to see only the edge out unorthodox grip. I wonder if that's because it is a popular trope in media or if people just aren't familiar with the efficacy of holding it edge in. Another interesting variable would be to put a little oil on the handle of your knife, or fake blood that starts slippery and quickly becomes tacky, to simulate how things change when there is blood on the weapon. These videos are always educational and I think a lot of people who comment don't understand what realistic actually means in terms of training safely but efficiently.
Love Craig and how the training looks. Watching the knife vs knife stuff (specifically the stuff with distance between you), I would just paraphrase what Bruce Lee said about fighting: use your longest weapon on the nearest target (like a kick to the knee or groin in a weaponless fight or fight where your leg isn't a vital target for their weapon). When it comes to knives (really with any melee weapon), I'd make that your blade (in forward grip, which gives you a longer reach and more maneuverability than reverse grip) on their hand, wrist, or arm instead of trying to get in close, pass their weapon and stab or slash their face, neck, stomach etc, which leaves you way open to their blade or whatever melee weapon they have. If you hit the right target, you can easily take away their ability to use or even hold their weapon. Lynn Thompson, former owner of Cold Steel, has some great videos on knife work on youtube that emphasize that method. There is also a JKD teacher named Jason Korol on youtube who also teaches that way, emphasizing JKD's incorporation of western fencing ideas and translating it to knife work, which he was told to do by one of Lee's original students, Ted Wong. And of course I'm not talking about a grappling situation, but when you have the distance allowing for you to target their hand or arm. Other considerations would come into play with very close quarters fighting, though disabling or neutralizing their weapon would still be a goal.
Looked pretty realistic to me. By the way Mike I love the positioning , that is to say, moving to the rear before stabbing them up, look very effective.
This is legit training! I really like this channel.
It's definitely realistic and particularly so for a police officer who is very likely to find themselves in a grappling situation.
Craig Douglas definitely knows his stuff!
Excellent!!! I wish I could do it in my country (Uruguay)
Flipping love this. Totally totally cool.
Foam trainers can really hurt. I got clocked with one a little more than three weeks ago and I'm still waiting for full dexterity to return to my hand. When you get hit hard in the right spot, you learn a lot. The hard way.
Yeah anyone who doesn't think they hurt... doesn't train.
Skills are practiced using isolation. Isolation and deliberate pacing.. Anyone who practices skills know what this means. The isolation is not the actual thing- it's not "realistic". But you still need to isolate things to learn them properly- especially if those skills involve speed + precision. You can't just "train" using always full speed, full violence. You won't learn much from that.
Love that last line.
Whats really "fun" (fun is the wrong word imho but it also kinda fits because it is fun) is to don white shirts, get a sharpy and have a go at it.
Ever thought about adding some Judo into your game Mike? You seem to really like the underhooks whenever you go in for grappling so learning how to O-goshi might be really effective for your game
"Got me on the ground and I start giving him the business up the gooch" 😂😂😂
Wow, what excellent training!
nice vid Mike. And nice overview. Somewhere I saw where they would make guys wear white shirts and then put red lipstick on the foam knives so you can see where you got hit and how often. Keep them coming my friend
Oops, I was banned from UA-cam back in 2020, and recently was let back on.
Forgot to resub to this channel, love Mike's content.
Looks like a fun class.
Subbed (again)
I know icy Mike isn't a huge fan of karate, but that type of "limited" sparring was a huge learning experience for most people. Sometimes. It was feet only, and sometimes it was hands only, sometimes it was one person hands one person feet, sometimes it was you have to have a hold of someone before you do any strikes. Sometimes it was only one person strikes and one person evades and blocks.
Looks fun, wish they had stuff like this where I live!
What I like about this is that it puts all the "I would just do this" or "Just do that" into action. Like you actually have to prove it. Reality is way different than a kung fu movie where you can just beat up 10 dudes by yourself and disarm someone with a flick of your wrist. Real life confrontation is ugly and fast.
What's with the underhand grip? You loose so much distance and are forced to "punch" your blows out in an awkward way.
Stand up knife fights happen so seldom that there are very few people in the world who truly understand the mechanics. But this is fair enough. I've always figured it's compatible with boxing techniques. Boxing with a knife in hand. Most knife attacks involve multiple attackers or the "technique" called "threading the needle".
From punching distance this may be true.
However once you get a bit closer that changes - the knife becomes much more flexible, can come at you from more angles including behind and its easier for the attacker to change the attack direction mid swing. The available reaction time is less and the knife cant been seen at all times so controlling the weapon arm becomes more important and parrying/dodging becomes less viable.
@@mrx2586 from a defense perspective that's true to. But if you both deploy a knife that becomes much harder to do. What you see then usually becomes clumsy fencing. Though cuts with small knives stand little chance of slicing through layered clothing . If you combine your attacks with boxing techniques however your already ahead of the game as far as controlling measure and range. Believe it or not foot work is as important in boxing as striking.
love that little thai hop into face stab you did
Great job, friend!
lol yeah stuff like that happens a lot. Especially with Craig, It hurts.
I've seen a person loose an eye with a Knok trainer, that wasn't with Craig, but everyone sure as hell put their safety glasses on after that.
Not sure if he still does it, but I did AMIS with him (Armed movement in Structures), that was super fun and a bit painful
"I got caught up in the moment," while simultaneously making that hand gesture, if taken out of context looks pretty bad, haha. With that said, I'd love to attend one of those seminars.
People who are infatuated with those terms have no idea what "realism" is in combat. Realism in knife "fighting" means someone is likely dead. I love how you nailed it right off the bat. "Excuse to not train". "Foam training knives", sure but attached to clenched fists and large, strong martial artists lol. Your two-on-one was awesome.
I honestly think HEMA might be the way to go for edged weapon defense. I mean the entire sport/marital art is based around knives, swords, and grappling. I'm sure they have some unique tools in for dealing with modern scenarios. Would be interested to see you check it out and see what you can take away from it.
I don’t personally train dagger in HEMA, but some of my club mates train with my instructor on another day of the week in a system that actively involves dagger in the curriculum. (I’ve also seen enough dagger practice and comparison videos online to get a good idea of what casual conversation doesn’t convey.)
What is probably most distinct about dagger in HEMA versus modern knife fighting is that the typical solo dagger treatise involves a long [often triangular] thrusting blade, which has an occasional sharp single edge. Whether ear / bollock / rondel dagger or miséricorde / poignard / stiletto, the weapon is usually held in icepick grip and is visibly longer than the forearm. This behaves differently to a short concealed carry fixed or folding blade, or even the average kitchen knife. Certain techniques that are smart for defending against the length of a rondel dagger may risk unexpected slices and cuts from a single or double-edged shorter blade with better cutting capacity. But that’s mostly the little minutiae-major principles are the same, and several other differences could be due to the way that the instructor chooses to spar or drill.
@@jonharker9028 I'm a HEMA dagger instructor, and you basically said everything that I would want to say regarding this topic. The techniques are a good starting point, yes, but there's a *lot* that has to be changed and accounted for before you can try to use it for modern knife defense. I always start my classes my telling my students that this stuff is practical and works if they ever find themselves sent back in time a couple hundred years, but don't don't expect it to work if you get mugged outside the bar tonight.
I think HEMA depends more than most martial arts on the quality of the instructor/school as there is a LOT of bad HEMA, especially when it comes to more niche weapons and systems like dagger
Those helmets look pretty good! Nice job.
Very cool.
HaHa, as a melee weapons /HEMA nerd I salute you, as a fellow dwarf dude I will tell you that melee weapons favor the small and quick or tall and quick. Thanks!
I like how that looked! Surprising to many the approach is very similar to Systema. The main issue of that style it tends lack the kind of pressuring shown here probably because non-Russians rather avoid it and Russians don't necessarily care for the safety measures used here.
We do a lot of knife spar here in the Philippines.
3:03 Your G-string's showing here.
🤣 Love the videos, Mike👍🏾
Read a ww2 commando knife fighting manual once and all the pictures and writen instructions had the knife held withbthe blade pointing up in a 'traditional' underhand grip. So I suppose should do that as step one
It would be cool to see the hard2hurt crew do a gun scramble, I saw a video on instagram that looked intense
Probably the tutor is very good, the rules he gave are 100% correct. Hit without getting hit. Having said that I hate ich pick grip combined with boxing stance. Fencing stance and lunging are a better choice. When we trained like the plastic knives, we marked them with red lipstick so that we know where we got hit and correct our stance.
i wish i had guys like you where i live
Hey Mike, watched this video and was wondering, have you ever heard of Tim Wait and his PTK stuff? Definitely give it a look sometime. My trainer hooked up with Tim a few years back and absolutely loves the stuff. Great footwork and knowledge with bladed weapons.
Mike I think you've said in the past that people don't want to train pure self defense, and there isn't a place in the market for that kind of class. But unless you're aiming at some sort of knife fighting tournament isn't that what this is?
I don't know what you're asking... you know how many _people_ there are, right?
@@hard2hurt I think he's referring to a tier list video you did a few years ago, maybe with Seth or Rokas, where you guys classified which martial arts are best for Self Defense and pretty much none of them reached "A" tier.
I can't remember exactly but you said something to the effect that "No martial arts school teaches 'self defense' exclusively because they couldn't get enough people in the door to make enough money to stay open long-term. They have to be boxing, or karate, or muay thai, or BJJ, or whatever style to get people coming back every week."
Again, I can't remember word for word but hopefully that was the jist of it and it was a valid point. I think one of the reasons Craig is so successful is that he travels around teaching big seminars wherever he goes but if he tried to just have a local "brick and mortar" school for self defense only, then there just wouldn't be enough people to make it financially viable
@@alexanderren1097 facts!!!! 🥷🏽🙌🏾🙌🏾🙌🏾
I highly recommend that you check Armed Combat & Tactics or this channel I’m commenting from. Seriously and academically.
Brilliant video. Love the thinly veiled sarcasm :)
Great video. Just my 2 cents, I would highly recommend not try to take the back when your opponent has a lazy over hook. In judo there are quite a few nasty counters you will usually run into, even if your opponent isn't very skilled. I know this is more a wrestling style but still. I've never spared with a knife but in fencing we don't keep the blade centered but guarding only one side of your body so shots (usually) can't come from the outside. I think you would have more success sparing if you shifted your guard just a little more to the outside.
"Whyyy am I not using a real knife?" Laughing already 🤣. Can't ever underestimate the comment section enough.
Not a lot of kicking during the knife sparring. Was it prohibited/discouraged or did everyone just end up concentrating solely on the knife?
Craig explained it before... then I explained it again after... i don't know what else to tell you.
@@hard2hurt Well maybe I should ask if there was any instruction/technique involving kicks during the overview
Que buenos cabezales... a nosotros nos vendrían genial unos así! Ni sabía que existían jajaja
*hurr durr voice on*
You just don't understand my mentality, bro. My training is so realistic that i just fall face down in a puddle and soil myself like i really was just stabbed, bro. Gotta be ready for the time they Mcfucking kill me because I'm to deadly to actually learn something, bro!
Mike you should look into "Esgrima Gaucha", it is a marcial art with knife, used in Argentina prisions and tradition.
Watching him at 3:03 he looks quite proficient in Escrima Goocha
Why should I look into that?
Cool training... Iv been watching your channel for a while.. Wondering when your getting to get to "Fighting Bowies" tools/training and methods.
MIKE! Great video, love your stuff, maybe a stupid question but why reverse grip on the weapon. I feel like it limits my range and angles of attack; I've heard the Filipino adage "Slashed injure, stabs kill," which is very generalized but is this why the reverse: power?
They were using reverse group because they were practicing reverse grip. I was using a forward grip because i was practicing forward grip.
I understand what Mike's trying to say (that's just what the drill called for), but the answer to your question is... complicated. There are whole videos on the pros and cons of each, and its impossible to summarize. But a couple of general points would be that yes, reverse has more power in the stab which could be important in cold weather clothing or historical armor, but also reverse grip gives you more access to high targets like the face. Also, how you wear the weapon can dictate how you draw the weapon. Mike tends to wear it very horizontally, which is great for concealment and allows you to pull it easily into a forward grip, but historically a lot of people wore it very vertically without concealment, which allows a very fast draw... but only into a reverse grip. Like I said, its complicated and some of the variables have nothing to do with fighting per-say.
@@hard2hurt Thank you Sir! Appreciate the response and love your videos!
Train BOTH grips EVENLY!
Sparring is great and very important any martial arts or self defense without sparring is totally useless.
Oh you're not too deadly to spar?
@@hard2hurt 😁 not at all... I am too lovely to not spar 😅😅😅
The last sparring session in this video, the distance you guys have looks like you're in fencing range. I feel like a good fencer will be able to stab or reposte the knife hand at the range you guys are at.
I just feel like fencing footwork with Taekwondo/Savate style kicks at that range.
I'm thinking Jeet Kune Do type ranges in my head. What the best tools would be at that range you guys are at in this video.
I want to take his ECQC class so bad.
Do it. Watch the calender closely and sign up as soon as it opens up... even if you have to travel a little, it is worth the trip.
@@hard2hurt I took a Warrior poet Society EDC Combatives class last year that was decent but they tried to cram way too much class in a 2 day course. It was a little overwhelming and the force on force scenario was interested but it wasn’t directed to work on stressing any particular skills we learned.
Craig just seems like his attention to detail is insane and he understands the importance of drilling new skills
Sounds like he works the blade in "the box" that 3x5 area on your skull that most of the times clothing and/or protective gear won't cover.
Was the "superman stab" (5:10) part of what was taught on that course? 😅 Great video, jokes aside!
Definitely not
Is that a FREAKING carrot? 0:47
xD
... okay I'll give it a second
"Realistic" knife training should always result in serious injury or death!
Of course training is unrealistic that's why you can get up from being "stabbed" in the heart and learn from the training 🙄.
Excellent video as usual.
Why is it that I did not see any parrying of 'stabs' during this video?
Ok let me know if we are watching solid viper vs black panther knife fighting styles if Im right I'm ask if you can teach us more about defending of knife charging attacks melee with knifes like Winchester or keltor daggers......ipi oko ak salutes
not sure if still around but try shock knives
I wanna do this.
@IcyMike: try fencing for the channel please. Bruce lee did it. Also he said you can't fight, and it's stance or something had value. This will mostly be for comedic value though. Take care.
Fencing skills might translate to knife fighting?
Isn't this fencing in the video?
@@hard2hurt Touché, but you know what I mean, with like the full-on nerd about it guys.
If you train realistically you would end up with a bunch of injured and hurt people. After many years of Shotokan I always notice the "sparing" part of the class was always at the end. 1 your tired 2 you have reinforced proper technique leading up to that point and 3 because of 1 and 2 your less likely to hurt one another. This is Japanese karate under a Japanese master I don't think leaving the sparing for last is coincidence. At the end or the beginning depending on you perspective when people make black belt they are expected to have a little gathering sort of to thank the other students who were part of their success in getting there. It would be hard to thank someone for breaking you nose or gauging your eye out.
It is interesting that every duck at the beginning exposes your neck arteries to a front strike attack - which is far more dangerous than being stabbed in the hand.
What eye protection are you using
Do you know if Craig Douglas has ever or will ever come to Arizona? Also, I tried to find the price on his website but it said that it all depends on the facility. Could I possibly get an estimate?
ACTKSHCHUALLY as an obese 30 year old that has lifelong never played a sport or trained to fight, just experience hitting other untrained and overweight LARPers with foam weapons for at least a year now, i'm basically a weapons combat expert and am going to weigh in on how CRAIG DOUGLAS is actually DOING IT WRONG
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