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Teen House Party Turned Nightmare: The Very Suspicious Death of Noah Presgrove
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- Опубліковано 9 лип 2024
- Mystery surrounds the 2023 Labor Day death of Oklahoma teen and military hopeful, Noah Presgrove. What started as a fun house party turned into a nightmare. With deleted phone history, shifting stories, and hidden secrets, we’re left wondering: what really happened to Noah Presgrove?
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Teen House Party Turned Nightmare: The Very Suspicious Death of Noah Presgrove
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The wiping of the phones is what gets me. No innocent person does that.... i dont think I've EVER done that, and I've had a cell phone for like 18 years.
@@teagannovak3120 True! Me too.
What I don’t get is law enforcement can still retrieve the erased data in some cases and not others. How does that make sense?
This father - son duo is looking fishy (no pun intended) imo.
So true! I still have text messages from 10 years ago lol
The problem is that another answer for that is also extremely plausible: the party. We already know that everyone there was participating in illegal activity in one form or another, and given the area I’m guessing that alcohol was not the only intoxicant in that house. Posting stupid sht on snap is one thing…giving the police your phone with a shitton of evidence of you and your friends getting up to not-so-legal activities long before the party (or even just at the party)….thats a different story.
I don’t swing one way or the other on this case yet-this is my first watch of anything about it-but it’s absolutely conceivable to me that a bunch of teens/early 20s would be scared of turning over their phones with evidence of them using drugs or something like that, and just wiping the whole thing instead of going through piece by piece and hoping they get it all. Especially given peer pressure: for example one or two people are doing the most, texting their friends about it, and now pressure their friends too to wipe their phones by saying they’ll be essentially snitching if they don’t. And while a lot of times (esp in murder cases) cops won’t care about any drug(+) stuff you’ve been up to, they just want info on that specific case…it’s not exactly unheard of that all that “irrelevant stuff” has come back to bite the informant just trying to help, particularly if the death is found to be completely unrelated, like say a hit and run by a semi.
Like I said. Not sold one way or the other atm, so it’s easy for me to see this particular piece of the wiped phones being for either reason. Even weed is still illegal in OK without a medical card, and people (especially teens) do stupid and impulsive things when they’re scared. (Which cuts for both theories)
Here's my take... when I see law enforcement on the side of the road, my first instinct is not to pull over and check it out. So the fact that Jack pulled over to check it out is suspicious to me and tells me he knew what would be there.
Right? I’ve driven past many incidents of police on the side of the road handling an issue and never once thought “hmmm I wonder what’s going on let me go see” even if it’s a small town that sounds pretty sketchy to me to stop and poke your nose into something you had nothing to do with.
I grew up in Oklahoma and people absolutely do. In small towns everyone knows each other and are hella nosey. Police forces are small and typically the whole town knows every single one of them.
The police were not there when Jack pulled up. It was the semi driver and a guy in a pick up. The police did not arrive until 0618 which is the discovery time on the autopsy report.
@@its__peachy5187 that makes sense.
@@robbitaylor2874 that's right!
How sweet of those truck drivers to protect other drivers from seeing the body…. Especially children…. So kind
People always wanna talk about how bad marijuana is but you only hear stories like this involving alcohol!? Worst drug out there IMO
I agree a billion percent alcohol ruins families daily even my own
Alcohol brings out spirits and everyone is not nice that drinks, and who bought beer for teenagers? Why did a teenager have a shot gun in his hand, alot of questions, no one is locked up, a you g teenager is gone, come on we need more than what we are getting, is that a racist place? Oklahoma
I don’t know heroin and meth and pretty freaking bad
@@celestialfox9282 imagine if those drugs were legal tho! Look how awful crime was during prohibition. People were also poisoning themselves and others from making bad batches of hooch also! This still happens just not to the extent that it was happing during prohibition. It was one of the main reasons they legalized it again
@@jessicadavis3989 I don’t disagree. I was just saying that heroin and meth are right up there, if not worse than alcohol. Look at places like out west…they give the needles away and people are not creating good things with that accessibility
The phones being wiped is the biggest red flag to me!!!!
And I’m convinced everyone whose phone was wiped knows exactly what happened and they’re not saying anything… that’s the scariest part. One of them eventually will crack or leak something. Too many guilty teenagers.
Yes, their phones are their life. You don’t clear your life and memories away, unless you have something to hide:
@@sandraevans7246my first thought exactly! I’m not deleting my memories and my pictures for anything!!! They must be guilty…
👏👏👏👏@@sandraevans7246
All of it is shady! She left out some key details like how one of the dads( I think jacks) handed out ripped up pieces and other stuff of Noah’s as “souvenirs”!
It’s not a hit and run if everyone wiped phones, cleaned with bleach, had conflicting stories, people saying they didn’t know him, and the phone pings. They know!
It’s a hit and run in the read case mate apparently! These small towns make their own shit up! Fucking dangerous LE in these nook’s
Ya I don't know what screams " I'M GUILTY" more than deleting everything off your phones.
I believe there should be laws that prevent individuals from taking actions like deleting data, selling their phones, or performing factory resets if they were in contact with a victim within 48 hours prior to the victim's death.
These individuals should face serious charges, such as tampering with evidence or hindering an investigation, obstruction of justice with a minimum sentence of five years.
It infuriates me that people can engage in such actions without penalty. As seen in the Karen Reed case. Despite being instructed not to, many police officers and their spouses from the party where they found John o Keef's body got new phones or deleted texts, before handing phones in. WTF!
Yeah this reminds me of the Kylie Rodney case how all the friends made up narratives and hid lots info
frat did it. beyond obvious.
Why wouldn't state or federal investigators get involved when town police is covering up.
What really gets me is that he was found in the fetal position, telling me that he was still alive when he was dumped there, dying all alone and hurt, thats absolutely heartbreaking 😢When u get hit by a semi u'll definitely don't curl up like that, you'd b in pieces. I dont know if I missed it but did they ever come up with a approx time of death?
The first officer on scene reports he was not in the fetal position, per se. His back was flat on the road, but his hips were turned like he was on his side and his knees were drawn up, which is making people assume fetal position. Doesn’t mean he couldn’t have been in pain and writhing. But it also could have been the way he was placed to be transported there.
Bc one. Or several killed him that's how they knew.
@@shakeitdontbreakit6337
You r right bc a semi truck hit a man on
A 2 lane hwy and his body was scattered.
So NOAH WAS KILLED ELSE WHERE AND LAYED THERE DYING.
YOU KNOW WHO YOU ARE YOU COWARDS WHY CAN'T YOU SHOW YOUR DAMN FACE BC YOU KILLED HIM WITH YOUR EYES ON NOAH WHILE YOU BEAT HIM.
SOME KIND OF JUSTICE SHOULD BE DONE ITS ALMOST A YEAR NOTHING HAS BEEN DONE. NO ARREST NOTHING
IF IT WAS YOUR KID YOU BE ON IT LIKE A FLY ON SHI#.
YOU ALL WALKING AROUND FREE NO WORRIES. WELL NOAH DIDNXT HAVE THAT OPTION!!!
Never mind how horrible it is that these teens are not talking, but what’s even more disturbing & disgusting is the PARENTS in this story!!!!!!!!
Yea I'm thinking pops could easily been getting that "favor" from an underage girl.
those parents are to blame because they raised animals who does this
My husband was killed on the side of the road hit by a pick up truck and his body was scattered like a dead deer and if this kid would’ve been hit by a semi, they probably wouldn’t have much of him left
I definitely don’t believe it was a hit-and-run
Sorry for your loss
Omg I’m so sorry!! I do agree with you though
Sorry for your loss ❤
Exactly!! So sorry for your loss. That's really heartbreaking. But you're right. I saw a video of a semi hitting an SUV that came into his lane and it literally VAPORIZED that SUV, wildest thing I've ever seen! It just disappeared into a million tiny pieces! So yeah, a human body doesn't stand a chance against a semi!!
I’m so sorry, that’s horrible
It's almost like they held him upside down and let his upper body drag on the pavement. How horrible. Such a tragedy. Definitely lots of people know exactly what happened!
Damnnn that's a thought..
I know a few crazy guys when I was younger that did car surfing.
I keep thinking they drug him from the back of that quad or a tailgate of truck!!
@KarlyNicole for the type of injuries especially with the fingers looking like they were ground down and his head..I do believe he was killed before he got to the highway. But I see someone driving the truck while 4 guys held him upside down.
@@kitzokay oh yes. Definitely!!
@@kitzokaythis was my exact thought too!
The phones being wiped, people denying they even knew him, and the Dad that helped clean the house was a dead giveaway to me. That whole party either took part in this young man’s demise either directly or by watching & not seeking the police for help. Definitely a cover up. I hope this case gets the real attention it deserves. But it being in Oklahoma, I’m not surprised how f’d up it’s been handled. Lots of injustice happens in that state.
I live within 20 minutes of his hometown. So many around are being vocal about finding the truth for Noah's family!! Thank you Annie for covering the case, I hope more coverage like this brings answers
Jack is acting sus to me. The way he even texted about his best friend seemed OFF to be. No empathy there.Taking non stop interviews. Sometimes when you're guilty and young you talk too much..
Sunglasses in the interview, can’t follow his gaze. And you’re right, the rambling is very storytelling like.
And his dad!! Getting suc***d off by a minor friend of theirs???
HELLO
Definitely sus
@@dddeeebbbeeeExactly! Like take your shades off during an interview!
He knows what happened to Noah. The fact he was more upset he had to take a polygraph than his “best friend” dying so brutally just shows how evil and twisted he is. Same with his family, all vile.
Wiping of phones, socials, and changing of stories, denial of knowing Noah, etc... there's more to the story and I hope some of their parents take action and encourage the right thing to be done... speak truth.
Amen!!
Unfortunately the parent's are fighting with people on Justice For Noah FB page. It's strange. The only friend who hasn't changed his story is Kaden. He wants Justice for Noah.
The parent who said that they didn't know how to help their kids spoke to me because it seems as though they were trying to help their kids stay out of prison, not to help their kids get through the death of a friend.
Friends become enemies real quick when you mix booze and unresolved tension. This whole situation is sketchy and it’s really obvious that something was done to Noah by another person, or persons, intentionally. Jack knew that he was pulling up to Noah’s body, that shit was not a coincidence
💯 pol act/say their true feelings while drunk and some take it further I'm from oklahoma and just now hearing about this case I really hope the TRUTH come and his ppl can have some answers and closure the whole story they giving is not it at all
I like both comments, this hurts and Justice For Noah, this is bad and super heartbreaking to say the least😢😢
Agree. He wanted to hear what LE said. Is there any evidence that Jack really did take polygraph. I don't find Jack credible.
During Jack's interview, what caught my attention was not what he said, but rather what he chose not to say. He denied the idea that Noah was beaten up, but he never claimed that no one would ever want to harm him or had any enemies. Additionally, while acknowledging that he was going through a tough time himself, he never mentioned missing Noah even once. It seemed that Jack was more concerned about defending himself against the accusations and negative opinions surrounding him rather than acknowledging Noah as a beloved friend who is deeply missed by everyone. In my opinion, his primary focus in this particular interview was to protect himself against public opinion, rather than honoring Noah's memory.
Yes my exact thoughts not once did he mention he misses his best friend or how hard it has been to move on without his best friend like how weird !
Exactly what I thought 💭 not 1 time he said anything about how much he missed Noah or how much he loved Noah that was his best friend nothing!..or wanting to find who hurt him or even sadness for Noah all about Jack that interview was about plus he hide behind sunglasses 🕶️ & a hat 🧢 & hands in pockets & made no sense he sounded very very suspicious 🚩🚩🚩🚩🚨 if I lost my best friend that interview would have gone different!!.. Jack is involved & his dad Period l!!💯💯💯🚨🚨🚨 too many Red Flags about Jack & the 3 girls know something no 1 deletes anything unless they r hiding something 💔 sooo sooo sad none were really Noah’s friend only one that came forward was Kayden!! He is the only 1 that went to Noah’s family & told them about odd things about Jack & Mikey & 1 other boy I forgot his name!! Justice for beautiful Noah 💯💯💯💔
Totally 💯
It seemed to me a little bit like Jack & his dad were both mad at Noah...Things that make you go Hmmm🤔
There's rumors Jack was jealous of Noah and his good looks. Jack's ex GF CC wiped her phone and said she didn't know Noah to the police. Allegedly CC had a crush on Noah. And her sister Avery as well. On Justice For Noah FB page Avery and CC had a huge fight at the party. Just like Jack had a fight with Noah over his ex CC. To me thats interesting. Avery is allegedly the one is who was with Jack's dad that Noah walked in on. That's a rumor. Avery's mom fights with everyone on the FB page.
As a former EMT, I've seen bodies that have been hit by a semi and there's NO way the injuries, as described, occurred due to a semi vs pedestrian accident. It does sound like the young man was beaten to death.
As a former trauma ICU nurse, I wholeheartedly agree. He would’ve been literally obliterated; almost impossible it seems, to not have every bone fractured, being hit by a semi. Unrecognizable dang near! Not to mention, bodily fluids that would be all over the road.
@@WGrind0687 Exactly! We went to a call for "someone who stepped in front of a semi". The truck was going 55 and there was literally nothing but pieces that had to be picked up off the road. So, I'm hoping the police are letting the "got hit by a truck" rumor to carry on while they investigate the real cause, because this certainly isn't the one.
@@InvestigatingDavidCrowley Most definitely!! That “hit by a semi” story is very obviously untrue. So unsettling, people truly believing otherwise. Maybe they should view the crash scene photos from semi/pedestrian accidents. Because, literally, there is NO WAY.
@@WGrind0687 Very good idea! They'd change their tune real quick.
And that is body was moved there, especially on the fact that his phones pinged from the highway to the hous, and back there again.
I'm so glad you have covered this! Im from the same place he was. Same school. This has shocked so many in our small community. I know a month or so ago, I tagged you and a couple others on his page. Thank you so so much for covering Noah. He deserves justice.
Are you hearing any "rumors" about what happened to Noah?
I was in Target & jack & his dad were talking about a hit & run being a cover up!!!! The police department totally dismissed me & my evidence I recorded on my phone!!!!
He suffered so much bodily damage that it couldn't possibly be an accident! 😢 Somebody knows the truth!! I feel terrible for his grandmother...
Nothing is ever deleted!!! It all stores in the cloud! And its retrievable!
That is true!
Also, for many, many years, before cell phones etc, crimes have been solved.
I pray the perpetrators are caught and held accountable for this atrocity.
Not even the “wiped” phones are truly wiped. Much of that data is still retrievable if police want it. The problem is they don’t. They seem to helping “cover” this “up”.
That's a red flag on the police, for me. Why haven't they extracted the data from all their phones?! (If only to remove doubt.)
It takes someone who really knows what they're doing and certain equipment to be able to retrieve that info, it's not something you local police station is going to be able to do. I would imagine and hope that the right people are working on retrieving that information right now or have already retrieved it and it's just not been made public because it's an ongoing case. I'm sure(or I definitely hope so anyways) that they figure out what exactly happened to Noah and who all was involved. I believe we will get the answer to what happened one way or another. R.I.P Noah 🙏
That’s what Stephan did after he murder his stepdaughter he did a whole re start on his phone & the police still found everything the police on this case are horrible & Discusting if this happen to Noah it can happen to any other kid they need to find the true so there justice to this poor kid and mostly to his family so messed up 😢
What a horrible group of friends!
They r not "friends"
Exactly they are not friend's of Noah's
People always blame friends. Can't control another adult. You can suggest & advise, but ultimately adults are responsible for their actions. And that goes for nefarious actions too.
And the “best friend” has no fucking sympathy. No crying, no mourning just straight to pointing fingers and assuming shit which ISNT HIS PLACE if he was innocent he would relax and try and help and he isn’t helping he’s just making shit confusing on purpose. He knows more than he is saying and the fact he’s getting away with it burns my buns man.
Jack is guilty as sin. The fact he even made excuses for the fabled “Texas Boys” and claiming if they did it it was an accident is ridiculous. Guilty people always minimize the culpability or possible punishment that should be meted out to the hypothetical perpetrator. Jack is guilty. They drove his body to the road with thr side by side and his fingers dragged ripping the skin off the tips.
Why was the Dad anywhere near the party? That’s very strange. No adult does that.
Several adults were at the party. It was a 22 yr olds birthday
I think that dad likes underage girls
Does anyone get a mother’s intuition/ gut feeling, that “a friend’s” jealousy may be at play here?
Most definitely! Especially when the friend said it’s always been Noah and Jack or Jack and Noah. My ears purked up! And I think his friend Jack used Noah talking to his girlfriend as a motive to just beat him and kill him. Jack was tired of living in Noah’s shadow!
Yes! I’m not even a mother, but I immediately had a strong suspicion that jealousy was at play. He was not only a very good looking guy, but a talented athlete and was seemingly well-liked by both males and females. There’s always someone jealous of that total package. And that incident earlier in the party when Noah was talking with Jack’s gf, I think the jealousy was brewing inside his friend and it exploded, fueled by alcohol.
@lbh4113 Yes, and I think there is a father figure that may be involved as well that was there at the party. Noah supposedly opened the door to a room and saw something going on.
Yes. Jack was jealous of Noah and his looks. Jack's GF broke up with him recently. Rumor is that CC Jack's ex had a crush on Noah.
@@Bella-ht5jb9he3zand apparently she posted about liking tall brunette guys and that got jack even more pissed.
What's weird is that the" best friend" never seemed to show remorse, and not one time did he mention "he will be missed." ANYTHING it was just "it's been so hard for me
I feel deep down he was a jealous narcissist friend and Noah didn’t know it 💔
The description of his injuries were gut-wrenching. I cant imagine the pain his mother must be facing. 💔
These types of deaths are becoming more common. It's sad & sick.
yeah
I’m not super religious at least as far as religion is concerned, but I feel an urging to pray safety over my kids everytime they leave the house. They’re healthy strong teenagers, but it’s other ppl’s meanness I look out for. I even told my son, who has a lot of friends, no more big birthday parties with a lot of ppl. And by “a lot”, I just mean like 15ish. Strangely, one that I’ve had a “feeling” about, is who literally has everything…enormously wealthy family, attractive, good athlete, girlfriends, popularity….
What do you mean by "these types of deaths"?
@suann9790 Teenage boys being murdered by other boys/kids their age, at "friends" parties, and then left like garbage.
@@suann9790 meaning groups of "friends" killing someone, then wiping their phones, lying to police and justice never being served because they all stick together and cover for each other.
There are SO many cases like this in recent years 😔
Well Shanquella's family said is that her friends were wonderful and very trustworthy, but they beat her up and murdered her in Mexico.. then let's talk about Mary Collins so called friends, who tortured her stabbed her and murdered her and put her in a mattress.. AND UNFORTUNATELY THERE ARE SO MANY OF THESE STORIES, wear these kids think that they are out with their best friends but they're actually monsters... 💔💔💔💔💔
My gosh I don’t know either of those cases. How horrific!
Brenda, there’s actually video of Shanquella being beaten by her so called friend ( recorded by another so called friend) She is not even fighting back. NOBODY steps in to help. It brought me to tears. It’s horrifying , heartbreaking and unbelievable.
@@brendatomlinson very disturbing cases, if you can handle them...they're worth a listen 🙏❤
That case pisses me off to no end they got away with murder !!! May karma serve them quick !
@@cristianasaras6898 me too!!! literally makes me sick to my stomach!! She was such a good girl, had a great business was SOOO sweet her parents only baby...
You need to get the neighbor of Noah’s family an interview. She has so much information. I will try to find her name again! It’s even so much crazier than you can imagine. And the backlash she has received for speaking out is even crazier
Interesting. Who did she speak out too? News? Where can I find this I'm invested in this story now.
@chattycathy5862 damn they ain't even replying back to you cuz they're fkn lying per-usual 🤷🏽♀️ lying sacks of 💩
I truly hope this family gets answers soon. I do think it’s really sketch that all the online posts immediately stopped after he went “missing” and everyone wiped their phones. Innocent people or ppl with no knowledge of events do not do these kind of things
The way that Jack was SO QUICK to reply “-NO! He was definitely not beaten to death!! He was definitely hit by a semi!” when asked by the reporter, is highly suspicious and sounded like a complete lie, regardless of whether or not he previously passed a polygraph. There are many many factors with polygraph tests, including the competency of the test administer.
I think the teens got in a fight over girls, and Noah was beaten to death by blunt objects by several boys. Noah’s fingers were stripped to the bone probably because of how hard he fought back. After he died, the girls gave him a shower to wash all the blood off his body. Then Noah was dumped on the side of the road, staged it to look like he was hit by a truck, made a pact that nobody ever says a word, then headed back and cleaned up the house.
…(reeking of bleach lol)…I swear any time I hear something like, “the smell of bleach was overwhelming when officers arrived” I’m thinking, ok house reeks of bleach, this case is closed lol
Search the house. Find the actual place of death. Definitely.
Police recover deleted data from cell phones all the time. Why not in this case? Seems like a cover up or they just don't know what they doing. Why not call in FBI?
I agree! That's what I said he was beaten by the golf clubs and then dragged up to the road with the 4x4
Agree 1000%! 😢
@@abou8963 yeah I think the teens likely murdered him in the party house. Otherwise why else would he be given a shower in the middle of the night at the house? The story about the ATV vehicle doesn’t match up with the lack of damage to the vehicle. And most of all *what teenagers or otherwise anyone* cleans up the house from a rager at 5/6am, exhausted, drunk, and hungover, AFTER the party?? NOBODY!
There is nothing anyone could say to make me believe this kid was not stripped and beaten to death by multiple other teenagers or older “kids.” The footage of the party of them playfully fighting and hitting each other, confirmed reports from his best friends own mouth that they even got into a non-playful physical fight, the affluence of the families involved and the autopsy and crime scenes paint a very clear picture and it’s not an accident or a hit and run.
This is the 4th case of partying teens resulting in fighting and a CHILD being beaten to death that I’ve seen in the last several months. It’s just devastating and so tragic… these kids have no idea how serious things can be and how easily things can go wrong. A campaign needs to be started to spread awareness to the younger generations about “fighting” (jumping someone) & how fast someone’s life can end.
I mean, allegedly there was at least one parent (Jacks dad) at the party as well. And Noah allegedly walked in on a compromising situation, so I wouldn’t be surprised if any of the party goers, parents included, were involved.
It was convient enough to get rid of transfer DNA. He wasnt wearing any of the clothes he showed up in. I think he was beaten up a few hours before he was found. Like before the shower he already had the head trauma which the girls thought he was drunk. Cuz when we were that age nobody ever EVER washed off the marker.(just for laffs in the morning) And the other injuries, nails, road rash, broken teeth were from moving him.(so 2 different times he was abused) So they dressed him in rags, drug him out to the Highway to make it look like a Hit & Run.
Beats meat? Lol . Might wanna edit that..unless that's what you meant!@@whatknotcovfefe
I agree. I’ve thought about this , I used to teach and seeing even the younger kids watching “world star” or stuff like that and thinking it’s cool… not knowing how quickly a life can end.
Mob mentality plus alcohol and possibly drugs equals something bad waiting to happen.😢Especially with the slap fighting phenomenon. I didn’t know that was even a “thing” . So tragic for Noah and his family 💔🥺
I hope this gets more coverage nation wide.
I find it hard to believe that Jack and other teenagers would’ve came up with the idea to make it look like a hit and run. They were all drunk immature teenagers.. They most likely would’ve panicked and tried hiding noah rather than making a fake scenario..Also they woulda only had about two hours to come with hit and run idea from 3-5..They were hammered and that’s a very well thought out idea in my opinion..I highly doubt a hammered 18 year old would’ve thought of that..I think something happened and Caleb along with other adults planned this whole scenario and did this to Noah..The property owner and Caleb are top suspects to me. Caleb killed a 7 year old girl in the past in a boating accident while he was intoxicated..He was drunk driving a boat and hit her with the propeller and he didn’t see a day in jail…Idk how that’s even possible makes me sick..I’m from a small farm town the same size as Noahs.. And for 5-8 years the sheriff was running a prostitution ring all the deputies were in on it and court officials.. Small towns are often extremely corrupt and protect eachother..
It doesn’t take a rocket scientist to come up with a cover up. I’m sure they all sobered up pretty quickly once they realized the severity of it and the thought of life in prison. Also, the girl who threw the party wasn’t a teenager, she was 22. The fact that it appears that all of the party goers were involved, that’s quite a few people brainstorming ideas on how to cover it up. Not to mention they probably googled a bunch of stuff cuz they also all wiped their phones clean of any data.
I don’t doubt that Caleb and the girls mom probably also had a hand in figuring out how to cover it up to protect their kids from any consequences of their actions but I seriously doubt they had anything to do with the actual murder
@@jyll7159 No I meant the adults planned out the hit and run and Helped place Noah on the road..Yur talking about a bunch of dummies beating eachother up drunk holding shotguns..They’re obviously not the brightest..If they searched stuff the data would still show up that’s not stuff you can clear..Not only did they come up with a perfect scenario but executed it perfectly so much so 10 months later they’re still free..It’s more likely they woulda panicked and hid noah’s body..Noah apparently died at 4 Am and was found at 5 Am so they were hammered came up with the hit and run then cleaned everything perfectly in an hour without any help from the parents. Unfortunately you can’t just sober up when something tragic happens yur left with regrets lol They were all extremely drunk going off Noah’s blood alcohol levels..
@@jyll7159 The girl who is 22 should be arrested and given the harshest sentence possible then they can give her an opportunity to snitch to lower her sentence..As soon as they make arrests they’ll start turning on eachother..There’s 3 people they could arrest today for giving alcohol to minors and for shooting/carrying a firearm while intoxicated..It’s ridiculous they’re just letting everyone get away with shit..If they had made arrests the month it happened guarantee this case would be closed by now..The cops and detectives working this case blow
I concur. I visited Duncan and Ringling and the insane stuff that went on blew me away and I'm from CA! Those people are so bored they go insane and all have low IQs and are closer to animals than humans the way they behave. There is no loyalty. That dad was banging the house owner and God knows what else was going on and it got out of hand and Noah died and they covered it up. I think they threw him out of the back of a truck after he was dead. the blood would be minimal since his heart wasn't beating!
This is getting to be more and more common and it's so horrible!!!! Parents teach your children better manners and responsibility and the meaning of true friendship!!!!
I'm truly scared for young people!!!!!! Especially my children and nieces and nephews!!!!!!
And encourage your kids to not drink! None of this would have happened to him if they were sober ❤️🩹
We dont KNOW that, people with ill intent will act regardless of alcohol @mdeyex
I just think that it's reported more, there were horrible teens like this before.
Too many parents helping their kids cover up their wrong doings
I have a question...why would his friend call him and ask him to come back to the party, give him a ride back to the party and then just drop him off? Doesn't make sense to me. Sounds like they were leading the lamb to slaughter!
i’ve heard noah felt something was wrong and that’s why he wanted to leave the party, but they wouldn’t let him! the people who did this to him knew exactly what they were doing.
Different kid dropped him off and couldn’t stay bc of parents and age
My heart goes out to Noah's family. Such a beautiful young man taken too soon, and his so-called "Friends" know exactly what happened, but aren't talking! 😔💔🙏🏽
Someone needs to step up and give that family answers... 😢
If there's one thing I've learned in my 47 years.. it's no matter how many friends you think you have.. when it comes down to the wire, rarely do any of us have true friends. They'll turn the other way if they have to put themselves on the line for you. Even when it's justified.
There is hardly any loyalty or integrity when you get to the nitty gritty.
Someone knows what happened to Noah.
The last sentence in his interview was the only truth he spoke: "It's been the hardest time of my life"
I can't imagine sleeping very well while trying to get away with murder.
I want to know how he KNOWS that Noah wasn’t beaten to death. The funeral director said otherwise. The funeral director said it looked like he was beaten by more than one person.
I heard that too
@@crazy4nunohe says noah wasn’t beaten to death and that it was just an accident in every interview he gives. isn’t that interesting? especially considering golf clubs were found in a scrap pile behind his house and one of them was bent.
Im so happy you are covering this case. I live in oklahoma, im telling you there's some good old boy club here where certain people get away with certain things because they grew up with certain friends who later work as police and politicians. That poor boy was not killed by a hit and run. We all know that here.
@taylorwatson6209 my childhood horse that was my whole entire life, he kept me from committing suicide growing up. It was my 1st semester of college in OK, I'm from Nebraska. But I had to board him and couldn't keep him at the college. But he was stolen where he was boarded. One of the people in charge of that boarding place was a police officer. But my horse and another out of state horse were the only out of state horses that were stolen. It was such a traumatic event for me, he was like my kid, he was everything to me! But it was a inside job. Of course everyone said they saw nothing but I was so set up. It ruined my grades that semester of college and left a huge hole in my heart. The not ever knowing is the worst. You couldn't pay me enough $ to ever live in OK.
@devencreekshetlands wow that's so brutal what a horrible experience for anyone never mind a young adult in college in another state, and with a cop involved, the trust goes away even more. I'm sorry. 💔
@devencreekshetlands I'm really sorry to hear that, my friend! I wouldn't doubt it was an inside job for sure.
Couldn’t agree more.
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Hey x I'm miles away, in the U.K.
But for personal reason..i hate bullies like these and I'm on your side. Sadly from miles away but I promise i hear you x
I hope they get their Karma and I wish you all the happiness xxx@@devencreekshetlands
The thing that drives me crazy is everyone is saying "his friends".... Those arent his friends i dont think they ever were.... If they were his real true friends the family would be going through this.... His friends would say something or have called for help.... He wouldnt be dead on the side of the road thrown away like a ragdoll .... These are fake friends....
That young man was MURDERED!! The evidence is as clear as day. The friends no more than what their letting on. I hope Noah and his family get closure😢💔
Ive been following this case from day 1 as my brother and sister in law are neighbors of Noah's family. They really don't know the family too well but its so heartbreaking to them. They were friendly and waved whenever they seen the family. Noah had mowed the lawn for my brother and shoveled the driveway when my brother had major back surgery in August of 2022, and he was laid up for several months. The family truly believes that his "friends" are responsible for Noah's death. They have said that Noah had a previous altercation with one of the young men at the party, over a girl. I hope and pray that Noah & his family get the truth and justice that he and they deserve.
Somebody needs to go to the police because this boy was held down and curb stomped it is very obvious... I have a nephew that was curb stopped At the Air Force academy he survived but is mentally disabled for the rest of his but at least he survived the injuries say exactly what happened
@@tarabasden8440oh my gosh, that’s so horrible! So sorry 😥
I think they used the golf clubs that's what makes the most sense & then they drug him up to the road on the 4x4 which caused the road rash. I hope this boy gets justice
@@Lovie2023the golf clubs were also found in a scrap pile behind jack’s house and apparently the atv that was at the party was sold days later.
@@Val-mi2udomg😭💔😭
I was hit by a car as a pedestrian walking to work. They said my sneakers which had shoe laces tied tightly were found atleast 30 feet from my body. They flew off.
Same thing happened to my sister walking to class, her shoes flew too.
I was hit by a drunk driver that wasn’t even going super fast and one of my boots ended up across the street.
Right! Glad you all made it out ok👍
There's NO way his body would be intact after getting hit by a semi. No body would be!
Yes my brother is a EMT and he says when anyone is hit their shoes always come off the person hit.
I saw some accident also and what I notice the shoes is always far from the body.
Those copsdid this poor young man a massive disservice.
These kids were under age and drinking. I think the parents that allowed the kids to party and drink at their home need to be held accountable for this young man's murder.
No.
If so…hundrets of millions of parents would be in jail 😊😆
Please, stop this nonsense of thinking this world is perfect, everybody must be held accountable for everything if it’s not 100% by your rules or thinking.
Everybody has dozens of wonderful party nights that age and we had sooooo much fun. All the memories 🙌🥰🥲
Imo everybody has the right to make your own experiences at that age.
@@marcusantoniusAfterDarkit is actually a law here in Oklahoma that the adult providing the alcohol and venue to drink it IS responsible for injuries OR DEATHS sustained during the party. It is what it is. They should be charged.
@@marcusantoniusAfterDarkand you’re a whole ass idiot for thinking these kids need to be drunk to have fun. What a gross ass mindset.
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How old was the person Noah walked in on caleb with?
I live an hour or so from where this happened. It's so heartbreaking!! I can not believe that NO one has the guts to come forward and tell them what happened to this poor boy!! I pray karma gets them!!
I'm from Duncan, this entire thing is awful
I'm ashamed of o s b I and I am ashamed of oklahoma highway patrol! This was a murder cover up.A blind man can see that! It took me about an hour and a half to drive to where noah's body was to see the crosses
They went BACK TO SLEEP after finding Noah dead. They knew Noah was dead and went back to sleep except for the kid who owned the hey dude shoes. I think Jack and his dad did something.
I agree regarding Jack and his Dad. If Jacks Dad saw that Noah witnessed him getting a blowie from a potential MINOR, he may have been fearful of being exposed. Plus Jack was already pissed at Noah for being too close and talking with Jacks girlfriend….. Sounds suspicious to me.
@@annaleighnichols4052I agree I feel like not many are talking about the fact that it COULD have been a minor giving the BJ and the dad came back for the side by side and it all just doesn’t sit well with me.
@@annaleighnichols4052excellent point!
Jack is DEFINITELY involved, IMO...
I get that but how did Jack pass the lie detector test if he was involved. Unless the lie detector test or the person giving it was fixed especially in a small okie town especially if the person administering the test was from the same police dept. I could see that.
I will tell you something from my own personal experience , one of my very good friends when we were 20 years old was hit walking along a highway drunk at 3 am , by a semi driver , 1.5 km from the party he left , his body was unrecognizable , there was no wake . He was cremated for his funeral. The damage done to my friend’s body was horrific so it’s come to my conclusion that this kid was not hit by a semi . The impact alone would have done more damage than broke ribs. This is such a horrible sad situation this boy got himself in . I hope for justice .
Especially how fast they are going on that road it's not some road in town it's a freeway u can hear the cars whizzing by if it was a semi that hit him going that fast, yeah.....
They were not going fishing that early after days of partying! Im from Oklahoma. My brother is an avid hunter/fisherman. When he was younger he use to drink with his buddies. No dang way they'd get up that early after days of drinking. Someone will eventually start talking or another "friend" will get into an "accident" the one who is starting to crack. I have a son who is 17 and nephew who is 16. This is crazy scary. I hope and pray for that family there is justice and peace.
Thank you!! Glad someone else was thinking about this "fishing trip" as well!!
@@monicaelyn2393 that dad and "friend" give off the biggest red flags!
Whole thing was shady.
1.all the snapchats deleted
2. differing stories
3. Caleb
4. Jack had an axe to grind.
Hope the family gets answers. 🙏🏼
The fact Noah came in to his father having sexual relationship with a young girl from the party. Then Noah and Jack having a heated conversation later, after the heated fight between them. I think Jacks Daddy did it and Jack may have been involved, but it was all about protecting his Daddy against Noah telling anyone what he saw.
@@lady4volsAnd Jack's dad got away killing a 7 yr old girl. He was drunk on his boat and hit the boat she was on. He wasn't arrested. He has connections I believe.
@@Bella-ht5jb9he3z he definitely seems like he's got a lot to hide.
Compare Noah's brothers interview to "Noah's best friend Jack's" interview. The brother chokes up a few times....Jack never does...🤔
Exactly!!
kaden said jack was STARING at noah’s body when they were at the scene. he shows no empathy for his “best friend” and it shows! let’s pray for justice y’all.
I was surprised how flippant he was. Very “oh well” attitude
The kid saying there is no way he was beaten based on his injuries is odd to me. He was quick to say no but he isn't educated enough to speak properly. How would he know?
Also slap fighting was around since the 90s (maybe before idk). Sometimes it get out of hand but the rumor about the dad doing s*x acts with a minor is the biggest red flag. I hope they check his location for that night
Pretty sure the text about “bro I know what a beat up face looks like” is from another guy to Jack. Not Jack. Jack continues to say that it was a hit and run.
My dad is friends with Caleb Newton.. My dad texted Caleb over facebook and talked to him about the case and Caleb denied everything. Because my father and Caleb are friends, my dad doubts he did anything wrong. My mom thinks otherwise she believes that Caleb and Jake had something to do with it. This case is so sad I hope whoever is responsible gets put behind bars and Noah’s family can feel relief in justice my heart goes out to all the people affected by Noah’s death ❤.
Absolutely I can't imagine not truly knowing what happened to your baby
@@crispincoop894 yeah
How are all those teenagers keeping their mouths closed??!! Obviously something happened at the party since everyone deleted everything from their phones!! Surely someone will crack and come forward soon
Just like Cameron Robbins case - so many teens on that boat and no one says a thing, there's only one video out there of what happened, and it's not even clear. In both cases, someone with money is paying people to wipe their phones and keep shut. It must be
And cleaning that leaves bleach for days 🤔. Sus as
@@retrobiggy yup
Hi Annie. I believe, it's just a thought,that the guy was jealous of him, & he was beaten. The friends knew, but failed to care. RIP 😇 angel. You are loved by many. The ones who hurt you will reap what they sewed. I love your channel Annie❣️ Your a🌺 fabulous🎀 true crime bestie❣️. Peace, Miss Janine💄👄💋💅🫶🎉🧸
Honestly, there are circles in every small town that will close ranks and deny to the grave. They know what is at stake and they are confident that they can get away with it if they just do what they're supposed to.
That's what's going on here in my opinion.
The fact that no one at the party is talking and their phones were all wiped, cover up
Noah was a beautiful young man. So sad. Things are so dangerous now in this teenage world. 3 day party with adults there? All this craziness? I can’t wrap my head around that
The fingers scraped to the bone is indicative of being dragged by some sort of vehicle in my opinion
What a disgusting waste of a beautiful life. This story makes me physically ill.
Sorry "best friend" you are guilty. Liking away the B's he is talking. It's so sad. Jealousy is such a sad sad thing.
I’m so glad you are covering this Annie. It’s bothered me for a week or so from when I first heard about it.
My sympathy to Noah’s family. I can’t imagine what they’re going through.
Such a handsome young man hearing the autopsy report, literally just sent pain throughout my body. I can’t even imagine what he had to go through. Breaks my heart, I pray they find who did this to him 🤬🤬😡
He was murdered/sacrificed at the party. The wiping of the phones is such a dead giveaway. Maybe he got to amorous with a lady or mean, and they jumped him. The road rash shows me he was pulled behind a vehicle after his death. It also seems like a huge cover up.
I got a cultish vibe from this too. Shady small town. A lot goes on in these nobody knows abt.
The cutting up of Noah's shirt and giving it to them as souvenirs that happened after he was beaten to death by who knows how many people at that party but Clayton was probably the main one I think it started with him. Then Jack joined in and the others. Then they chained him to the truck face down and dragged him. And he was trying to stop it that's why is fingers were schreaded down to the bone. I think he was still barely alive when they dragged him.
@@bethpent8851 Absolutely solid analysis. This actually makes sense with his injuries.
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Law enforcement needs to get warrants for all those wiped phones before they mysteriously go missing. They know what happened to him. Some more than others but they know. Can't imagine what his family must be going through 💔
There would never be such an intricate plan if all were involved. Someone would spill the beans, and if not, who's doing the threatening to stop them talking? I think it's far more likely to be one or two individuals.. such as a father and son, who would completely have each others backs.
This case has infuriated me since I heard about it in May. He was a good looking kid. I’m sure he was surrounded by jealous “friends”. I’m sure he was beaten to death by them. The guilty are reading this and shaking in their skin. Be sure to leave a note before you off yourself when the truth comes out. Cowards.
What kid after a night of partying goes fishing that early? Seems convenient that he AND HIS DAD texted about fishing when he said he knew that Noah was dead BEFORE!? Why wipe all the phones?
I believe the kid who said Jack burst through the door saying Noah was dead and then WENT TO BED THEN TEXTED about going fishing.
He also text his dad at exactly 5:53. The exact time the autopsy report says the truck driver found his body.
& then goin fishing at 5 in the morning with out no sleep especially that horrible hang over 😅make it make sense !
Jack: no he was not beaten to death.
Reporter: how?
Jack: I passed the polygraph test 🤔🤔🤔
@charitywilson8851 yeah, that kid was out there😅
@@elsiemendez3743 exactly. What teenager who needs sleep more than ever at that age after a night of binge drinking actually gets up to go fishing. And they thought he was dead at this time so WHY would he be getting up to go STILL?
So glad you are covering this case. This young man was absolutely murdered! These so called “friends” Know exactly what happened!
you’re so on point with what cases to cover ! you do such a great job
These kids know more, they might be scared, their parents might be enabling them, it's not a coincidence about their phones... something went terribly wrong here and in the meantime His family has no answers...#justiceforNoah
Jacks dads post definitely sounded like he was writing an alibi
I agree, he added unnecessary details, like his son looking for a hat and him not knowing if he ever found one.
plus why would he share those text messages when everyone else wiped their phones clean? it’s like he only wanted to show what HE wanted to show. an alibi, nothing more, nothing less.
Thank you for covering this Annie. A lot of the big crime shows haven’t picked it up yet.
This issue also...Jack was so jealous of Noah flirting with Avery....but then let Avery shower him? Just no way!!
Jack was mad noah was talking to his girlfriend carter combs who just happens to be averys sister
jack probably didn’t care about the girls showering noah because he was most likely already near death by that point which is beyond heartbreaking.
Excessive and unnecessary harm like this is usually associated with crimes where the perpetrator knows the victim.
Handsome, popular young man. Not hard for jealousy to creep in. My friend’s brother fell victim to a vicious attack by his own friends because a girl liked him instead of the other guy. He was brutally attacked and almost lost his life. Also handsome, popular young man who really gets along with everyone. Hope this family gets the justice that Noah deserves.
I think it's possible that several of his friends severely beat him and took it too far. Then, they showered him to clean any blood or evidence. It was too difficult to put clothes back on him, so they opted to just put his shoes on, then dumped his body in hopes that he'll get ran over to cover up the beating.
Then they started texting people, maybe parents, about what happened. The parents know more than they're saying. That's why the phones were wiped, and the house was cleaned.
It definitely feels like a cover-up to me.
Jack's Dad
Getting skked off by the girl at the party?? Hello!!?
Agree
I seen on another podcast that a coroner was asking why there wasn't a sa kit done. Male or female if someone is found naked or similar you always do a sa kit. Maybe something along those lines happened and noah wasn't ok with the advance and someone took it too far!
She left out a part where jacks dad handed out prices of his “shirt” as “souvenirs”.
@@johnnylego807 No she didn't, she covers that in the video
I HOPE LAW INFORCEMENT DOESN'T FAIL THIS FAMILY.
They use the side by side to move/drag the body that's why the dad went back for it and claimed there was no damage to it
Something about the best friend, the way hes talking, the words hes using, all of it reminds me of that first interview with Chris Watts.
I do wonder how that dude can speak about the violent death of his "best friend" and show ZERO emotion. Creepy.
@@kate_is_greatkaden said jack was simply “staring” at noah’s body when they first got to the scene. he’s never showed any empathy for his “best friend” which is really disturbing.
Yes
When you’re telling the truth. The story does not change. Ever.
That's not true and platitudes like that are harmful. Innocent people are forced into false confessions all the time.
Not true. Trauma effects memories. Memory of the event may unfold over time.
Memory is EXTREMELY fallible. Someone telling the truth will have small details change all the time. It’s not on purpose, it’s sadly just how our memories work.
Every time you remember something your brain is remembering the last time you thought of that thing, not the actual incident. Then it’s also adding in all the extra details you’ve gotten since. Add trauma to the mix and now your memory is even less reliable. Now add intoxication…
When you should be concerned is when NONE of the details ever change even a little, as that’s much more suspicious and a sign of a story being rehearsed (which can happen both for good OR bad reasons) than someone remembering something after the fact or their brain changing black shorts to white after hearing everyone else say white.
That's not exactly accurate. You're right, you're story won't necessarily change but as you remember things it might seem like it's changing. I personally remember things better when I'm left alone and close my eyes and concentrate where it's quiet. If I'm asked on the spot I won't remember every detail. But my story won't change I just add details.
Im sure finding your best friend on the hwy like that is gonna mess a kid up...anyone really . He might remember things differently after a while when his brain lets its guard down. For the rest of those kids idk. Me personally I would be completely honest, if I couldn't be sure about what I was saying, I would say exactly that.
@@Christy-sf6vt I’m glad somebody got the whole story of what i meant by a simple couple of sentences. Thank you. 😊
Much like Preston Lord, all of those people at the party know EXACTLY what happened to Noah. Shame on all of them cowards.
Just looked up that case. Different but similar as Im reading today some guys crashed the party!
This one gave me literal nightmares. I dreamt of this boy last night. It’s definitely fishy and I feel deeply he was murdered at the house either by his friends, Jack’s dad or the TX boys and dragged to the road. He wasn’t hit by a truck. I think this story scares me so much because my children are his age, 17, 19 and 23, and I worry all the time when they are out with friends. There’s been a lot of young people dying at the hands of their supposed “best friends” and people can’t be trusted these days.
I hope the authorities can cut through the fog of BS all these kids and adults have conjured up and get justice for Noah and his family.
This case is so upsetting. I've listened to several podcasts about it now and I think he got in a fight that involved Jack. He was hurt way worse than anyone thought and he died. The kids panicked, put together a story so as to not get in trouble, and dumped him. The rollover in the side-by-side was probably a story just to explain some of his injuries. As far as that dad being at that party- ICK!
Maybe they dragged him to cause more injuries to hide some of the beating? This case breaks my heart. He was such a gorgeous boy.
Those kids can't all hold this in forever. The truth will come out. 💯 Someone will break.@@christimason1826
@christimason1826 probably why she even wiped his number from her phone. I agree Jack was involved & some other people.
This tragedy remind me of another tragedy involving a young woman. Her jacket was also needly folded and hung on the crash barriers! I believe her car stood close to her body! That incident was as horrific as this one!
RIP Noah 🕊️♥️🙏
her name is jaleayah davis! i’ll always be praying for her as well. both her and noah were gorgeous young people surrounded by terrible jealous “friends” and i really hope justice is served for both of them asap.
@@Val-mi2ud thank you for your answer! 🫶
All of those young adults know something
Like a pack of hyenas - what is wrong with so many kids and teens? Scary and sad
Yeah. The pack mentality. The kiss of death.
Horrible people ! They were not his friends. Plus that party sounds Horrible and awfully boring. Poor young man . So sad. I hope justice will be served !
That part of the country is very boring and oppressive and the people are kind of all crazy from the lack of stimuli!
How has it been this long and we have no new info?
They may have wiped their phones, but all of the information on their phones can still be retrieved.
I just hope this doesn’t turn into another Jaleayah Davis situation where the police close the case and more than a decade goes by with no answers. I hope both Noah and Jaleayah get justice. Thank you for covering this case!
Exactly what it reminded me of!! I live about 40 mins from where she was killed and I still don't believe a hit and run nothing was ever done about it so sad they act like these kids were just trash and didn't matter to anyone
i’ll always be praying justice is served for noah, jaleayah and so many others! both gorgeous young people clearly surrounded by terrible “friends” who were jealous of them.
Why arent the police and or FBI reviewing this? This is a terrible crime and needs to be investigated to the fullest! I think the family that threw the party should be held liable!
Oklahoma state PD is involved now
Local police are involved unfortunately. So they are of no use. Need outside agencies, like FBI too step in. And investigate the local PD.
Redditt has a good thread about this with updates. FYI. Think the FBI is involved now.
This is disgusting. Wtf is wrong w these people and wtf is wrong w these police
Oklahomans, basically. Bible-waving hypocrites.
Karen Perry one of the party goers in the new podcast Partners in true crimes told his story what happened and how Noah body was tampered, it’s shocking more than 40 people plus adults , cops covering evidence… mind blowing how the law enforcement taking care of this case in Oklahoma
This is sooo disturbing and sad… Those partying ppl KNOW 😒 #JusticeForNoah
During the texts Jack says he was def beat up by 5 guys. Now he's saying it's DEF a semi. Why would his dad be at the party at all??
I think the dad has something to do with it. Didnt it say he wàs seen receiving oral sèx there? Hmmm.
Alexandria Wolf the dirty old man was there to get what he was after (o_ _) se_ from a minor. And was caught in act by Noah, plus his son was pissed off for Noah talking to his girl friend. So Jack and his daddy did this to Noah. I am sure all his friends knew all about it but the so called "friends" will not say a word, how horrible 😢
@@crm208sounds about right!!
Exactly! Why the heck was the dad even there??
@@crm208 My thoughts exactly. Also I'm pretty sure most if not all of the people there know what happened. They are just scared to talk. So much for friends. Those weren't friends at all.
The wiping of the phones, the partygoers won’t shut up about what “they want others to really think happened… happened”, it feels like a collective effort to hide what really happened. And that kid’s father helping to “clean up” totally suspect. Cops didn’t check the house for evidence, are we going to get the “wiped” phones &records subpoenaed ? oh wait …the cops don’t seem to care in this case either. *holding my breath for justice* Frustrating!!!
I can’t be the only person who finds parents who party with their kids weird af. I’m still in my 20’s(not for much longer, but still I’m not that old), and the closest we got to “partying with parents,” was us sneaking booze and boys in through the basement. When parents are getting wasted, and hooking up with their kids friends…It’s giving these parents are willing to cover up a murder, vibes…..
I definitely knew some of those parents growing up. There wasn't any parents hooking up with kids or anything, but I always thought it was crazy.
Why would you take on the liability of high-school parties as an adult?
Most of these "party parents' are somewhat wealthy. Why would you risk everything like that?.
Anything can happen, and as a dults hosting an underage party, you are both criminally and civilly liable.
Of course, nothing ever happened, because it seems like the universe only punishes smart people.