@@anaveragefilmmaker1422 Yes, you 'd have to do a process similar to the one in the video. It may have changed a bit since I made this video in 2011. It's probably very difficult now to find a lab that will make a release print.
This was current in 2011 when I made it, although as it turns out it was only the following year when digital exhibition overtook 35mm and it became unnecessary to make a print.
It's easier because you don't have to go back to film at the end of the process, just to a Digital Cinema Package. Often the facility doing your grade can output the DCP quite easily, or you can do it at home using Open DCP.
Yes you certainly could. But it may still be cheaper to telecine it (not to tape any more of course), offline edit and then only scan what you need to - I'm not sure of the current costs.
@@NeilOseman Current costs in the US have risen a bit. Processing for 16mm and 35mm is around 15-25 cents per foot depending on lab. Telecine varies widely between lab and colorists, for a 4K telecine you're looking at between 22-60 cents for a flat 4K scan, although the colorist I use only charges 35 cents for a 4K with scene-to-scene color timing. Work prints are still pretty cheap, only about 20-25 cents per foot. Digital-to-film recording is incredibly expensive; for color 16mm with sound at 2K it is $175 per minute and for color 35mm with sound at 4K it is $400-700 per minute. It's honestly cheaper to do the full-analog production process than the digital-intermediate production process based off of the digital-to-film recording costs alone.
This was super informative and helps me better understand why the digital filmmaking process is what it is today.
4 years in filmschool.. this is the 1st time i really know the whole process. filmschool sucks. thanks for this video.
Amazing! This just clears up the one step I couldn't understand for a long time. So, thank you guys! Great job!
Fascinating... clears up a lot of misinformation. Thank you!!
That was super interesting and informative. Thanks! Good luck with your film as well!
Wow, this was the best youtube-video I have ever seen. Congratulations from a film director in Finland! :)
Superb share !! Thank you so much for this info ! :)
thanks it was very informative
Do they still use film as the final output medium? As far as my understanding goes even the cinemas now dont use a celluloid film projector.
where can i see the dark side of the earth ?
You don't have to go back to film anymore afterwards right? Because most projectors aren't like that?
Correct. They're all digital now.
@@NeilOseman But there is occasionally theater's that use projectors. How would you do that?
@@anaveragefilmmaker1422 I'm not sure what you mean?
@@NeilOseman Well projectionists still do exist and there is a few places that show film like that. Would you do that process then?
@@anaveragefilmmaker1422 Yes, you 'd have to do a process similar to the one in the video. It may have changed a bit since I made this video in 2011. It's probably very difficult now to find a lab that will make a release print.
Is it the way things were done in 2011 or is it even older ?
This was current in 2011 when I made it, although as it turns out it was only the following year when digital exhibition overtook 35mm and it became unnecessary to make a print.
So, how would you do this now? Is it still that complex? It must be much simpler right?
It's easier because you don't have to go back to film at the end of the process, just to a Digital Cinema Package. Often the facility doing your grade can output the DCP quite easily, or you can do it at home using Open DCP.
But could you just scan to 4k and then have the original scans edited and voila?
Yes you certainly could. But it may still be cheaper to telecine it (not to tape any more of course), offline edit and then only scan what you need to - I'm not sure of the current costs.
Neil Oseman awesome!
@@NeilOseman Current costs in the US have risen a bit. Processing for 16mm and 35mm is around 15-25 cents per foot depending on lab. Telecine varies widely between lab and colorists, for a 4K telecine you're looking at between 22-60 cents for a flat 4K scan, although the colorist I use only charges 35 cents for a 4K with scene-to-scene color timing. Work prints are still pretty cheap, only about 20-25 cents per foot. Digital-to-film recording is incredibly expensive; for color 16mm with sound at 2K it is $175 per minute and for color 35mm with sound at 4K it is $400-700 per minute. It's honestly cheaper to do the full-analog production process than the digital-intermediate production process based off of the digital-to-film recording costs alone.