I think you have a great apprentice in the young Lad. Isaac is respectful of yourself and John. I suspect this is one of the best things you and John have done. Thanks for giving the lad a start in his career
I respect what you do in your shop. Thank you for taking us along. You might have guessed that I live on the other side of the pond. I think you are a "natural" in front of the camera. Good Luck.
May I first offer my condolences for the loss of your smallest workshop member they will be sadly missed. Secondly great video as always keep up the good work and keep them video's coming.
Fred Dibnah would be proud to see that the machines and tools he had at the bottom of his garden are still going strong. My Great Grandad could rock up in his flat cap shirt and tie and start work immediately.
I used to work for a Ford dealership and had forgot about this style or conrod/gudgeon pin assembling ,never keen on this setup . The Pinto engine on the engine stand brought back some memories .
Get some heat crayons for indicating the temperature of the little ends. Or better still a small induction heater. Temperature can be preset on them and take the guess work out of the process..
Never mind the mouse! For Gods Lee sake shorten and wrap some tape around that drive pin and wear sleeveless coveralls. I once saw a guy wrapped around a spindle, granted the operator can release power in this instance but.. all radial arm drills hones etc were then fitted with DC injection brakes. An induction heater for the rod less chance of the grain structure being changed! Great shows as ever only constructive points sir!
You bring back memories of helping my parents replace the kitchen, and when we pulled the cooker out we found about 9 mouse corpses... They had chewed through the power cable to the cooker and frazzled themselves. We suddenly worked out why every now and again we heard a bit of a light "thud" from behind the cupboards. As the then pulled the corner cupboard we found the 6" hole in the wall that when we moved in we'd said "We need to pull that cupboard out soon and fix that hole"... (Being in the county, fieldmice were a fact of life)
It's sad when you loose a member of the house 😂😅 the lathe would be the most inconvenient, doing a great job glad you sorted the pinion, thanks for sharing, all the best to you and your loved ones
Guys. It would be an easy job to replace that long bolt on the honing machine, with a nice flush mounted cap screw, or machine screw. A ten minute job for any machine shop!
Had a similar mouse incident. Walked in to the mess room on a Monday morning and the smell of death was horrendous. After lots of searching and sniffing found the little bugger sat across the live and neutral on the back of the cooker.🐀
That long bolt sticking out of the bottom of the upper hone u-joint is a hazard in any country. In the US OSHA would probably fine you and also demand guards over the u-joints and shaft.
Remember back in 1966 the whole village had a power cut! Squirrel had jumped from a tree and into a sub station. True but reminds me of the bike in the Italian job! Poor squirrel looked well barbecued! 🇬🇧🏴🏴🏴
Get a cat called Tom. Add some CCTV coverage, and you'll soon have your own Tom and Jerry videos. :) Condolences on the passing of the smallest workshop member, may his memory never fade.
We had mice nesting in the coffee machine at work once, people were commenting that they had to squish the "coffee" against the inside of the cup to get it to dissolve !!
R.I.P. Fievel. Most of the electrics in that lathe have modern replacements. Better still they are often smaller than stuff from the 70's and before. It may not be as bad a repair as you think. Depending on your local supply house you may be running in a day.
That long retaining bolt below the cv joint on your honing machine could pose a safety hazard catching your sleeve. A grub screw might do the job, though I am not there to know the reason.
That pin sticking out would slash right across the wrist blood vessels that might be very dangerous and it would keep pulling you in. Maybe you leave the chuck key in the lathe whilst it is running.
@@matthewjenkins1161 absolutely, steel indicates a wide range of temperatures through colour very well. Anyone who has heat treated steel can see this was very close to 600°C. The question is will it affect their reliability - presumably Barum Engine's experience tells them not? Clearly the con rods have not gone through a precise heat treatment programme, just like I say doesn't seem like a very good idea getting them that hot - but it probably tricky getting the pin in at 300°C
Another very enjoyable video, Workshop looking great just need to keep the lathe a bit cleaner, perhaps a hand held electric magnet would make it easy and quick? great to see the summer look maybe consider losing the draw strings from the hoodies? Sorry to be a bit of an old grump but best wishes intended.
I've seen you now fitting the pins but what is the best process of removing the pin? Oh and why have you not mentioned the blue Pinto, is it something special?
When you are fitting those heat up type rods it is a good idea to give the piston some heat as well so that the pin falls into them. You don't need much, not even to the boiling point of water but just enough to expand the hole a bit. We used to put each piston into a thick plastic bad and put that into a pot of not yet boiling hot water off of the tea-room stove. Maybe some of the viewers don't know this but having a pin get stuck half way in can very quickly turn into an expensive disaster because quite often the piston gets distorted and becomes unusable as the only way to get things apart again is to press the pin out and back then you could not get loose pistons so it became pretty expensive pretty quickly. Also, back then each set of 4 pistons were very close to the same weight and size BUT the next box would be a few grams off and 3 or 4 thou different so the "mix and match" from box to box was not such a good idea. Mahle were the most consistent back then but even they had quite big differences from box to box some times. Which means you ALWAYS bored each hole in the block according to the actual piston you were going to put into it. Eventually the Japanese piston manufacturers showed everybody (including the Germans and Americans) how to do it properly.
When you knife edge the crank doesn't it throw off the balance. And also that cuts down the rotating mass which cuts torque but makes it faster revs. If I'm wrong please explain.
We had a mouse cause a big stink in my garage, every morning we had a very bad smell in our reception area, looked at the drains, looked at the files and books stored under the front desk, after a week or so tracked it down to the dot matrix invoice printer, a mouse had slowly been cooked on the pring roller heater, must have been a computer mouse!
Workplace injury! Now you will have the government over, doing a post accident assessment, taking weeks to write a report with recommendations and a whole lot of red tape to deal with because some unregistered employee decided to go into a restricted area....
I Knew it! Mouse. Soon as you mentioned the problem I said Mouse I bet.. Sure enough. Been there done that too many times, got Cats now and no more mice :) Get a shop Cat mate.. cheaper than a repair bill... or a Fire, god forbid. Had that happen in my caravan once and I was lucky it didnt burn whole thing down, caught it Just in time. Those little buggers can really ruin your day, as you experienced here. Cheers guys.
Trouble with cats is they push everything off the bench! That's how I know the Earth isn't flat - if it were, they'd have pushed everything off the edge by now.
The blue part of the flame is relatively cold, the hottest part is just out of the blue same as if you are gas welding. How are the gudgeon pins fitted originally as they clearly had not been heated before?
Alu pistons are supposed to expand more than the pin when warmed up? As long as it's free when cold, it will be free when at operating temperature? Maybe hone out the pistons just a bit to make it run free when cold? Too much trouble for this one because it's a one off, but you could use an old piston pin, put it in the lathe and turn it until you can put it in manually without having to heat stuff. Use some teflon buttons between the pin and cylinder walls for the dry build so you can quickly take stuff in and out and save some time while fitting and measuring the stuff out, no need to put clips in for the dry build that way.
A shame with the pistons for that Ford engine that you couldn´t go the route that we do, when fitting Omega pistons with floating pins into a standard BMC/BL A-series rod. With the pin being of a smaller dia. it accepts the rods to fit a bronze bushing. It was very intressting to see Isaak fitting the A-series pistons in the interferance way. I have never seen it being done myself. Just understood the theory of it! Anyway...a very sad loss of that cheese eating collegue of yours! R.I.P. Mouse the machinist .
Hello there LEE .... PLEASE shorten that Rotating Protruding Bolt on the Hone Shaft .... !!!!!! It is a Serious Accident just waiting to happen ..... :-) :-) :-) I sure do Cringe Everytime I see You using it ..... Best to ALL from ChCh, NZ
@@Ben-Dixey :-) :-) :-) Yep, it might be, BUT One Day it will catch someone's Sleeve and it will all 'End In Tears' or Hospital .... Being in the 'Engineering Game' all my life .... I have seen and heard of just too many 'Preventable Injuries' even a death where the Daughter of the Foreman was 'killed/skelped' when her Ponytail got caught up in the Spindle of the Big Internal Grinder .... Was Devatating to ALL in the Engineering in Cape Town ..... One can't be Too Careful .... Cheers from ChCh, NZ
@@kiweekeith I have been in engineering all my life too and have pointed out plenty of dangerous things that they are doing. All suggestions have been ignored, you can lead a horse to water but you can't make them drink. It's just the Barum way, the only thing that would make sense here is a longer bolt, perhaps one long enough to just flick those hood strings.
@@Ben-Dixey YEP, Spot-On Correct, :-) :-) :-) .... I just love the Vidclips presented by Lee and Isaac.... A Real Breath of Fresh Air ..... I have Also mentioned Many Many Times that they are using the Incorrect 'Inserts' when machining Aluminium.... :-) :-) :-) 'They' are using 'General Purpose' inserts for Ferrous Metals. Using the Correct Aluminium type Inserts will give a far better Finish, Reduce the Load on the 'Component' being machined, AND using a little CRC / WD40 will further help with Finish and 'Load' .... Never seem to get Any response .... :-) :-) :-) Cheers to ALL from ChCh, NZ
@@kiweekeith 😆👍 aluminium inserts work well and WD40 works great to prevent aluminium build up on the tip. I saw Lee forcing an external turning tool into an internal bore I don't think special aluminium inserts or wd40 will be on the shopping list anytime soon. A boring bar would have to be first purchase.
Don't be mean, there will be some little mouselets somewhere in the workshop waiting hungrily for mum to bring the roast insulation kebab home for tea. 😱😂😆😉
My God, the number of 'elf and safety Gestapo on here is beyond belief. Why the heck do they all say the same thing? Surely if someone makes a comment then it is quite unnecessary to repeat the exact same thing. Anyway, talk about a storm in a teacup - I don't see any missing limbs.....
Do you ever clean all the swarf and rubbish from the lathe looks like another dumpster fire Pest control wonderful sounds like a building full of lazy people
Last time i saw legs like that they were hanging out of a nest..😉😃
🤣🤣
Goodonya to your young bloke for working under pressure when he’s being recorded on video. 👍
I think you have a great apprentice in the young Lad. Isaac is respectful of yourself and John. I suspect this is one of the best things you and John have done. Thanks for giving the lad a start in his career
I respect what you do in your shop. Thank you for taking us along. You might have guessed that I live on the other side of the pond. I think you are a "natural" in front of the camera. Good Luck.
Never did it that way 50 years ago building race engines. Used puller & Dags lube. No heat.No problems. As recommended by BMC in workshop manual.
You know when the Rods too hot when your knuckles start to smoke. Your videos are always a great watch, keep it up 👍
May I first offer my condolences for the loss of your smallest workshop member they will be sadly missed. Secondly great video as always keep up the good work and keep them video's coming.
Fred Dibnah would be proud to see that the machines and tools he had at the bottom of his garden are still going strong. My Great Grandad could rock up in his flat cap shirt and tie and start work immediately.
Last time I saw legs like that, they were holding up an oil rig.
Poor mouse was only trying to keep the place squeaky clean.
I used to work for a Ford dealership and had forgot about this style or conrod/gudgeon pin assembling ,never keen on this setup . The Pinto engine on the engine stand brought back some memories .
Get some heat crayons for indicating the temperature of the little ends. Or better still a small induction heater. Temperature can be preset on them and take the guess work out of the process..
Great video as always guys, very informative. Does heating the small end that hot not weaken the rod though?
Love the CEGB floor mat. My Grandfather retired as Chief Draftsman for the CEGB in the 50’s 😊
Never mind the mouse! For Gods Lee sake shorten and wrap some tape around that drive pin and wear sleeveless coveralls. I once saw a guy wrapped around a spindle, granted the operator can release power in this instance but.. all radial arm drills hones etc were then fitted with DC injection brakes. An induction heater for the rod less chance of the grain structure being changed! Great shows as ever only constructive points sir!
What a brilliant video. The way you hone those bores is divine.
You bring back memories of helping my parents replace the kitchen, and when we pulled the cooker out we found about 9 mouse corpses... They had chewed through the power cable to the cooker and frazzled themselves. We suddenly worked out why every now and again we heard a bit of a light "thud" from behind the cupboards.
As the then pulled the corner cupboard we found the 6" hole in the wall that when we moved in we'd said "We need to pull that cupboard out soon and fix that hole"... (Being in the county, fieldmice were a fact of life)
It's sad when you loose a member of the house 😂😅 the lathe would be the most inconvenient, doing a great job glad you sorted the pinion, thanks for sharing, all the best to you and your loved ones
Guys. It would be an easy job to replace that long bolt on the honing machine, with a nice flush mounted cap screw, or machine screw. A ten minute job for any machine shop!
That's not the Barum way, suppose viewers just have to accept that.
Had a similar mouse incident.
Walked in to the mess room on a Monday morning and the smell of death was horrendous.
After lots of searching and sniffing found the little bugger sat across the live and neutral on the back of the cooker.🐀
That’s the trouble when you put things on the back burner 😂
-Lad on the camera is great banter. Along with the young lad in the workshop, Makes a big difference... This is the way.
Feck that's some heat on those rods,
They're now fooked 🤣🚗👌
Correct cross hatch angle be damned. Its about time some of that equipment from Noah's ark was updated boys.
Ahh, Love it. The story of the poor mouse. Got my day off to a start with a laugh. Keep up the good work guys.
That long bolt sticking out of the bottom of the upper hone u-joint is a hazard in any country. In the US OSHA would probably fine you and also demand guards over the u-joints and shaft.
Remember back in 1966 the whole village had a power cut! Squirrel had jumped from a tree and into a sub station. True but reminds me of the bike in the Italian job! Poor squirrel looked well barbecued! 🇬🇧🏴🏴🏴
Cheers Lee, don’t the Conrods have to be the right way round when fitting?. The legs are fine but I’ve seen more meat on a Butchers Pencil.
Thought you would be using an induction heater by now with an infrared thermometer, still love the antics
Get a cat called Tom. Add some CCTV coverage, and you'll soon have your own Tom and Jerry videos. :)
Condolences on the passing of the smallest workshop member, may his memory never fade.
Great to meet you at Coombe today
We had mice nesting in the coffee machine at work once, people were commenting that they had to squish the "coffee" against the inside of the cup to get it to dissolve !!
. . . it's time to add a cat to the workforce !
R.I.P. Fievel. Most of the electrics in that lathe have modern replacements. Better still they are often smaller than stuff from the 70's and before. It may not be as bad a repair as you think. Depending on your local supply house you may be running in a day.
Nice of Lee to have a BBQ in work , although I guess you'd rather of had steak than the chicken legs he brought in 😂
Hi Lee, how often do you get your measuring equipment re calibrated.? To maintain standards and accuracy we had a rolling 3 months.
Save money on lighting, keep those shorts on
Lee……get that boy some bloody safety glasses !!!!!! 🤣🤣🤣
Hi Lee,
I have a few control panel bits in a dark corner for a Colchester student, what part is your sparky looking for exactly.
Last time I saw legs like that they were holding up the Maureen Platform.
That long retaining bolt below the cv joint on your honing machine could pose a safety hazard catching your sleeve.
A grub screw might do the job, though I am not there to know the reason.
That pin sticking out would slash right across the wrist blood vessels that might be very dangerous and it would keep pulling you in. Maybe you leave the chuck key in the lathe whilst it is running.
I know nothing about building engines, but surely it's not a good idea to heat those small ends to over 600°C almost glowing red?!
Do you really think they got anywhere near that, whilst held by the big end with a bear hand?
@@matthewjenkins1161 absolutely, steel indicates a wide range of temperatures through colour very well. Anyone who has heat treated steel can see this was very close to 600°C. The question is will it affect their reliability - presumably Barum Engine's experience tells them not? Clearly the con rods have not gone through a precise heat treatment programme, just like I say doesn't seem like a very good idea getting them that hot - but it probably tricky getting the pin in at 300°C
@@matthewjenkins1161 Bears have paws. Unless you mean the 'light in the loafers' bear...
@@Sydney268 Who said they're steel?
@@TonyRule Lol yes, a brain fog moment.
Sorry for your loss Lee may wee mousey rip.
Another very enjoyable video, Workshop looking great just need to keep the lathe a bit cleaner, perhaps a hand held electric magnet would make it easy and quick? great to see the summer look maybe consider losing the draw strings from the hoodies? Sorry to be a bit of an old grump but best wishes intended.
I've seen you now fitting the pins but what is the best process of removing the pin? Oh and why have you not mentioned the blue Pinto, is it something special?
Why do you measure the bore with out wipeing the honeing grit out first ? .
Hope HSE aren’t watching 😱
When you are fitting those heat up type rods it is a good idea to give the piston some heat as well so that the pin falls into them.
You don't need much, not even to the boiling point of water but just enough to expand the hole a bit.
We used to put each piston into a thick plastic bad and put that into a pot of not yet boiling hot water off of the tea-room stove.
Maybe some of the viewers don't know this but having a pin get stuck half way in can very quickly turn into an expensive disaster because quite often the piston gets distorted and becomes unusable as the only way to get things apart again is to press the pin out and back then you could not get loose pistons so it became pretty expensive pretty quickly.
Also, back then each set of 4 pistons were very close to the same weight and size BUT the next box would be a few grams off and 3 or 4 thou different so the "mix and match" from box to box was not such a good idea.
Mahle were the most consistent back then but even they had quite big differences from box to box some times.
Which means you ALWAYS bored each hole in the block according to the actual piston you were going to put into it.
Eventually the Japanese piston manufacturers showed everybody (including the Germans and Americans) how to do it properly.
When you knife edge the crank doesn't it throw off the balance. And also that cuts down the rotating mass which cuts torque but makes it faster revs. If I'm wrong please explain.
We had a mouse cause a big stink in my garage, every morning we had a very bad smell in our reception area, looked at the drains, looked at the files and books stored under the front desk, after a week or so tracked it down to the dot matrix invoice printer, a mouse had slowly been cooked on the pring roller heater, must have been a computer mouse!
Workplace injury! Now you will have the government over, doing a post accident assessment, taking weeks to write a report with recommendations and a whole lot of red tape to deal with because some unregistered employee decided to go into a restricted area....
How do you get the correct hone angle? Dose that machine have a driven feed geared to the rotation?
trev from mt gambier south aust just a word of CAUTION remove the long bolt from the hone shaft before some one gets caught up in it CHEERS
Strings on top and that boring machine it's like an accident waiting to happen lee
the last time i saw leg`s like that , thay had a message tighed to them . was it mighty mouse in there
RIP MEBER OF THE A TEAM
induction heater required much safer, and quieterr
Wow proper old school ✊✊✊
I Knew it! Mouse. Soon as you mentioned the problem I said Mouse I bet.. Sure enough. Been there done that too many times, got Cats now and no more mice :) Get a shop Cat mate.. cheaper than a repair bill... or a Fire, god forbid. Had that happen in my caravan once and I was lucky it didnt burn whole thing down, caught it Just in time. Those little buggers can really ruin your day, as you experienced here. Cheers guys.
Trouble with cats is they push everything off the bench! That's how I know the Earth isn't flat - if it were, they'd have pushed everything off the edge by now.
Isaac legend.
I had a mouse like that in the back of my cooker. Crispy 🙂
Rest in Pieces🐭
Lucky those legs……..lucky they don’t snap 🤪.
Looks like they couldn't stop a pig in a passage too?
Oof, got to wear minimum 80 denier tights if you get your legs out at our place! 😂
The all new barum engines mouse Jerky
You can buy a machine to warm up the small end
The blue part of the flame is relatively cold, the hottest part is just out of the blue same as if you are gas welding. How are the gudgeon pins fitted originally as they clearly had not been heated before?
Dry honing??? Must be a British thing.
Hate to see the cross-hatching
Presume children aren’t allowed in the workshop those legs could scar them for life
Alu pistons are supposed to expand more than the pin when warmed up? As long as it's free when cold, it will be free when at operating temperature? Maybe hone out the pistons just a bit to make it run free when cold? Too much trouble for this one because it's a one off, but you could use an old piston pin, put it in the lathe and turn it until you can put it in manually without having to heat stuff. Use some teflon buttons between the pin and cylinder walls for the dry build so you can quickly take stuff in and out and save some time while fitting and measuring the stuff out, no need to put clips in for the dry build that way.
Gees Lee, from the title I thought something terrible had happened to you, John or Isaac. Don't do that again, please.
10:05. A mouse committed suicide.
H & S will need to be notified about the work - related death.
I have a friend whose business burned thanks to a rat.
Lee, you took out Fievel.
A shame with the pistons for that Ford engine that you couldn´t go the route that we do, when fitting Omega pistons with floating pins into a standard BMC/BL A-series rod. With the pin being of a smaller dia. it accepts the rods to fit a bronze bushing. It was very intressting to see Isaak fitting the A-series pistons in the interferance way. I have never seen it being done myself. Just understood the theory of it!
Anyway...a very sad loss of that cheese eating collegue of yours! R.I.P. Mouse the machinist .
Hello there LEE .... PLEASE shorten that Rotating Protruding Bolt on the Hone Shaft .... !!!!!! It is a Serious Accident just waiting to happen ..... :-) :-) :-) I sure do Cringe Everytime I see You using it ..... Best to ALL from ChCh, NZ
That bolt bolt is part of Barum heritage and is sacred.
@@Ben-Dixey :-) :-) :-) Yep, it might be, BUT One Day it will catch someone's Sleeve and it will all 'End In Tears' or Hospital .... Being in the 'Engineering Game' all my life .... I have seen and heard of just too many 'Preventable Injuries' even a death where the Daughter of the Foreman was 'killed/skelped' when her Ponytail got caught up in the Spindle of the Big Internal Grinder .... Was Devatating to ALL in the Engineering in Cape Town ..... One can't be Too Careful .... Cheers from ChCh, NZ
@@kiweekeith I have been in engineering all my life too and have pointed out plenty of dangerous things that they are doing. All suggestions have been ignored, you can lead a horse to water but you can't make them drink. It's just the Barum way, the only thing that would make sense here is a longer bolt, perhaps one long enough to just flick those hood strings.
@@Ben-Dixey YEP, Spot-On Correct, :-) :-) :-) .... I just love the Vidclips presented by Lee and Isaac.... A Real Breath of Fresh Air ..... I have Also mentioned Many Many Times that they are using the Incorrect 'Inserts' when machining Aluminium.... :-) :-) :-) 'They' are using 'General Purpose' inserts for Ferrous Metals. Using the Correct Aluminium type Inserts will give a far better Finish, Reduce the Load on the 'Component' being machined, AND using a little CRC / WD40 will further help with Finish and 'Load' .... Never seem to get Any response .... :-) :-) :-) Cheers to ALL from ChCh, NZ
@@kiweekeith 😆👍 aluminium inserts work well and WD40 works great to prevent aluminium build up on the tip.
I saw Lee forcing an external turning tool into an internal bore I don't think special aluminium inserts or wd40 will be on the shopping list anytime soon. A boring bar would have to be first purchase.
Rip moose 😢
Loads of H+S there Isac !! LOL ....
👍👍
Sparky Gonzalez.....
H and S does not appear relevant , he should of had gloves on warming that con rod plus other PPE , bet he was wearing trainers as well.
You can get steel toecap trainers 🤗 just saying
Is there go fund me account for the mouse family to help with the funeral cost ? 😅
Compensation to the mouse's family ??? 🐯
..those legs just reminded me - I must get some chicken drumsticks on the way home.....
Why no photo of the fried mouse!
When the funeral date for the shop mate?? You haveing him cremation as the power shortage occurred
Poor mouse.
Lee, CVH ?
Don't be mean, there will be some little mouselets somewhere in the workshop waiting hungrily for mum to bring the roast insulation kebab home for tea. 😱😂😆😉
By passing leg day ..for the past year?? 😂
When is the funeral LEE?
😎😎😎😎👍👍👍👍
poor danger mouse 🤣🤣🤣
Where's all the cranks at? 🤓
My God, the number of 'elf and safety Gestapo on here is beyond belief. Why the heck do they all say the same thing? Surely if someone makes a comment then it is quite unnecessary to repeat the exact same thing. Anyway, talk about a storm in a teacup - I don't see any missing limbs.....
Mouse on toast.
Do you ever clean all the swarf and rubbish from the lathe looks like another dumpster fire
Pest control wonderful sounds like a building full of lazy people
one less employee to pay. gonna hire a new one for the job?
Do you wax your legs?????
🐭 ⚡️ ☠️ 😂😂