Wow, first big 👏 for the movie and i love the way you fly with a drone for perfect shots. With the battery you are making big progress 👌💪 your skills to make the battery beter and fly longer on 1 charge is super.
haha you know it! 🤪 its so tempting to just fly through. another drone guy was there with his crappy mavic and hit the lines of my new paraglider and then hit the pilot in the neck. i was furious. told him if he cant fly just dont even try to "help me" getting footage. its pretty dangerous. if hitting the PPG prop the pilot goes down. if fly into pilots face even worse. but glad you enjoyed that. i sure did far more than i should enjoy to fly so close haha! 🤣
2:09 Exactly what I was thinking! Following your own ePPG with your FPV quad 🥰 Next, fly FPV while flying ePPG Or, put AirUnit inside a PPG Chase Cam housing, put on goggles while up in the air, and fly ePPG via third-person view?
duuuude! thats some next level inception shiat right there 🤣🤙🏼 strange that you mentioned it i just got a chasecam in mail yesterday. gonna hook that up. i guess watching yourself in third person would be a proper barf simulator 🤢🤮😂 it was soooo strange and cool to finally had somebody else fly my EPPG and follow it with a quad. really loved doing that. i got like 200gb from that day as 4k60 video footage. i might make another video version with music. too busy these days! thanks for coming by and enjoy the show mate! 🙌🐼
@@cloudpandarism2627 Keep up the great work! Can't wait until you reveal the project that you are so busy working on. Yeah. the video lag in third person FPV while piloting a real ePPG will definitely cause🤢🤮
hey mark! so happy to see you here brother! yes this battery is fantastic. total weight is still less than all my gasoline paramotors. due to the weight very close to my back it also feels easier to carry. flight time is more than i ever want i think. me as 130kg+ fatty its also very different from "normal" sized pilots like you. flight time will get so much more if a 65kg pilot flies it. you see the second guy here in the video. he is 70kg and almost half of what i am. big difference in flight time. while i need to use 50-60% throttle for leveled flight he gets away with 40%. very strange so hear him fly over my head like 10 meters away. like a whisper. its very close to be silent when a small guy is 50m away. they both flew electric first time and love it very much. so much thrust. yet so silent.
You took advantage of being on the ground to make great drone footage! That's making 100% of the day! Very encouraging start of the new born eppg. Sunset footage is great, slow motion makes it fantastic!
i am living in china. thats near hong kong. there are nicer beaches around but i loke this one because i can drive car on and there are almost no people
thats with 3 pilots launching and landing. i guess a normal sized pilot flying carefully will last even longer. i was surprised too. but thats not the end. working on a new battery right now.
Great stuff!! And amazing flight time -- 1+ hour -- on 4kWh!!! Amazing. Congrats!!! What are the dead battery characteristics while flying? E.g. what's the BMS low voltage cutoff, and how far are you comfortable discharging the pack to? Is it LiPo, 18650 NMC? I assume it is not LFP... Cheers!
nice build!as a skydiver , plane pilot, and rc enthusiast , ive always wondered what its like to fly a DIY electric paramotor , so this is how its like!
cheers fellow pilot. the main difference i felt coming from gasoline paramotors was the noise and vibration. both are missing. makes flying so smooth. normal ppg feels clunky and rough. super loud and not enough power for me. electric have so much more power. feels like double from before to now. i can launch very easy which wasnt possible before. but all that comes very smooth and without drama. no smell on way home inside car. no carburator nonsense tuning everytime. no maintainance. you plug battery in and give it a 5 seconds look. preflight done. 😝 people love to say the range is not enough but i couldnt be more happy. half hour is usually way more than i want to fly before landing and have a rest. i can charge from my car in 15min or just swap batteries to go back up. and then there is the silence when you let off throttle. oh boy thats the absolute best thing! i cant get enough just going up high and turn motor off. best feeling ever. for me personally the advantages clearly outperform every gasoline motor. less weight. much more power. super smooth and silent. and no more mess inside car after a flying day with oil and gasoline. i will never fly normal PPG again.
Hi Tim, At the end your showing stats as 1hour flight time. For 35kg big battery. At 13:01 The last landing display was showing 00:28:51 minutes running time, I think. Would you be so kind and explain how you got an hour with display at 28mins? Please.
cheers mate, so the time you see right beside the battery gauge is counting reverse. means if you hold trottle lets say at cruise for leveled flight this timer will tell you how many minutes you have left at this power until the battery is empty. its an old display and this is usually used as battery caulometer for solar battery setup in your camper van or house. if you turn on things there this timer tells you hh:mm:ss you got left until battery is empty. its not a timer for how long we flew. 🫡 pilot used low throttle at landing and the displays last calculation shows that he could have flown 28 more minutes at that low throttle
That’s incredible. Thank you so much for explaining that. The same function is in Mercedes - you can see by the way you are driving how many klms with the fuel you have you can reach. Great stuff. Thanks
Beautiful video, Panda! Thanks! You are a very good drone pilot too.👍 I love the comment,"Please don't crash.......!" I have said that before! It is "Thanksgiving in the "States" today, so, I am going to my favorite LZ.😁 Also, what BMS are you using? Thanks! Bill
cheers bill! FPV was my way to the clouds before, because i couldnt fly the bloody gasoline paramotor. haha yes they used my new ozone wing and my motor. and this guy didnt flew in a year or so... got me worried a second. thanksgiving? send me the fancy food from there! i think you asked me about BMS before right? maybe i forgot if that was you. i dont use BMS for many reasons. the charger have BMS build in and thats the only time i want to use it. while flying it only creates another point for failure. i worked with high powered Bms for over 10 years and NONE of them could hold the amount of power they are "rated" for from factory. sooner or later they all went up in flames. most times sooner. happy thanksgiving bill!
@@10661956 semi solid state lithium packs. and lipos too. but not the normal RC lipos people buy in 6s and strap them together. 18650 or any other cylindrical cells i tested and i dont like the massive voltage drop after half capacity is gone. but for lightweight pilots they are a good idea to make.
@@cloudpandarism2627 Yep, I'm looking forward to the next battery tech too. If the "Solid Power" cells are able to deliver the amps then they will probably be in my next battery.
@@10661956 right now they are in between 18650 and lipos. they deliver less amps than lipos but not so bad that voltage drops to 65 after some minutes flying under load. i am still not sure i like them or not. price is double. but they are nice and small by also having alot less weight with more capacity. we are getting there... give it couple of years and see what happens. nothing we can do right now.
cheers nuno. i saw your problem with the ESC and motor last time from marius. the motor is freeRChobby and made in my city dongguan. i know the boss of that company and had alot trouble with him years ago. not very good quality. i also bought many motors from them. always bad. batteries i custom make from SSL DJI cells. do you ask me about ESC? or just battery?because i think you should adress your motor problem first. flying with low power to prevent motor stalling and ESC getting out of sync is insane dangerous mate
@@cloudpandarism2627 "... i saw your problem with the ESC and motor last time from marius. the motor is freeRChobby and made in my city dongguan. i know the boss of that company and had alot trouble with him years ago. not very good quality. i also bought many motors from them. always bad...." Thank you (dont know your real name sorry :) good to know that info. . "...batteries i custom make from SSL DJI cells..." Thank you, got it, I will search more about that. . "...do you ask me about ESC? or just battery?because i think you should adress your motor problem first. flying with low power to prevent motor stalling and ESC getting out of sync is insane dangerous mate.." Works great only with props with low pitch For now I just make a limitation on throttle to avoid this fail(motor or esc or both probably with bad quality lol), I would like to buy a MAD M50 C35 34Kv in the future, a lot of money for now :) Im building my own full eppg project through affiliate points around my social media.
Is a 10kwh battery possible? What would the weight of a 10kwh battery be? What cells are you using? I'm not an electric guy! In fact I can't stand electric vehicles! However, I recently bought a Surron light bee which is an electric e bike. Fruity I know but the advantages of being able to ride it anywhere anytime silently out-weights my ridiculous opinions. My brand new moster 185 crapped out on me mid flight 300ft over water. You can imagine how that ended. I take full responsibly for the outcomes of my poor risk assessments. I live dangerously. This circles me back to an electric paramotor. I think if I can get somewhere close to a 2 hour flight I'm all in. I know a big battery will probably weigh close to 100lbs but I'm ok with that. It's only on your back for take off/landing. In flight i wont even know its there. Love to hear your thoughts good or bad if you have time. Thanks,
cheers mate. as far i know you dont need such big battery for 2 hours flight time. we are reaching that already. video will come when i had time to build 2 new prototypes. and yes i understand you. many people are against electric. especially cars since they "always catch fire randomly" blabla. 🤣 i said it before and i stick to my opinion. flying electric isnt there to fully replace your gasoline engine if you love to fly 2-4 hours at a time. but 90% of all pilots fly around 30-60 minutes and that we can reach easy. its a good secondary unit to have for the relaxed afternoon cruise without the hassle to do any maintenance, carburetor adjustments, cylinder rebuilds and slashing around with gasoline or oil. the only thing you do before flight is look at it 5 seconds and plug battery in. 😅 that alone was a big step in the right direction for me. i hated my unreliable moster185 which caused me so many emergency landings. i will never fly gasoline again. i own a surron too before but i felt it was too slow so i build my own 120km/h ebike with 55kw that time. if you think the surron is a nice thing to have and ride silently in places you couldnt take a good ol 2stroke than you will love flying electric. its much more silent and smooth to fly. if you are 50 meters away most people cant even hear you fly by. keep your eyes open for news here around jan 28 when we go to fly the newest prototypes. lots of videos are coming with big news and features. cheers°
@@cloudpandarism2627 Thank you so much for the response! Looks like I will have to wait until you release a few new videos. What Kwh is required for a 2hr flight plus 25% reserve left in the battery? It is my understanding if you drain these batteries to 0% there is a chance the voltage will be too low to get the battery to charge again.
@@anthonyferraro3847 nope thats BS. you can always charge these batteries since i am not using a BMS or any other device to lock the pack in case of low discharge. we always leave a reserve in anyway. you do degrade the battery faster by flying it to absolute zero every single time. and you can increase the cycle times by charging it up to 90-95% only and fly down to 30% around if you wish to. not a must. with the newest lightweight unit i think 6 to 8kwh should be enough for that time but i also cant be sure yet since i changed so much. also depends on wing and pilot weight. the total take off weight should be around 30-35kg only with such a huge battery pack. but since my new unit is modular we can put on every battery combination we want. from a super lightweight 18-19kg 30min PPG up to whatever we feel is fun. me myself cant imagine flying for 2 hours straight. my arms will fall off. anyway we will test this setup and make a video. at jan 28 i go to fly and test 4 different units for 9 days and taking lots of video footage. i got like 10 different battery packs and many motor combinations. also lots of new nice features on the controller.
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Wow, first big 👏 for the movie and i love the way you fly with a drone for perfect shots. With the battery you are making big progress 👌💪 your skills to make the battery beter and fly longer on 1 charge is super.
Thanks a lot mate
Wow my friend! This is super cool! It must have been amazing chasing your own creation with your quad! Love it! 🙌👌❤
strange feeling. love it
Wow... that was some of the best video shots and drone footage I've ever seen, beautiful.... great job
mister berry! so nice to hear that from you. yes it was perfect weather and strange feeling to follow my own creation with FPV drone
beautiful... bravoo
What a fantastic video! And the drone footage too! I kept saying... "Don't do it!" I know You wanted to. LOL Thanks for posting! WOW!!!!
haha you know it! 🤪 its so tempting to just fly through. another drone guy was there with his crappy mavic and hit the lines of my new paraglider and then hit the pilot in the neck. i was furious. told him if he cant fly just dont even try to "help me" getting footage. its pretty dangerous. if hitting the PPG prop the pilot goes down. if fly into pilots face even worse. but glad you enjoyed that. i sure did far more than i should enjoy to fly so close haha! 🤣
@@cloudpandarism2627 I also fly FPV and freestyle, so it just "clicked".
@@sr71afan i was about to land on the canopy but the props would probably mess up my wing if they touch 😂🤙🏼🪂
Man I really like watching your videos!! I would love to experience electric power flight!
i will send you one when i am done perfecting it. almost there. everything works flawless but i will make it look better
2:09 Exactly what I was thinking! Following your own ePPG with your FPV quad 🥰
Next, fly FPV while flying ePPG
Or, put AirUnit inside a PPG Chase Cam housing, put on goggles while up in the air, and fly ePPG via third-person view?
duuuude! thats some next level inception shiat right there 🤣🤙🏼
strange that you mentioned it i just got a chasecam in mail yesterday. gonna hook that up. i guess watching yourself in third person would be a proper barf simulator 🤢🤮😂
it was soooo strange and cool to finally had somebody else fly my EPPG and follow it with a quad. really loved doing that. i got like 200gb from that day as 4k60 video footage. i might make another video version with music. too busy these days! thanks for coming by and enjoy the show mate! 🙌🐼
@@cloudpandarism2627 Keep up the great work! Can't wait until you reveal the project that you are so busy working on.
Yeah. the video lag in third person FPV while piloting a real ePPG will definitely cause🤢🤮
Looks like that battery is pretty good. Love the drone footage.
hey mark! so happy to see you here brother!
yes this battery is fantastic. total weight is still less than all my gasoline paramotors. due to the weight very close to my back it also feels easier to carry. flight time is more than i ever want i think. me as 130kg+ fatty its also very different from "normal" sized pilots like you. flight time will get so much more if a 65kg pilot flies it. you see the second guy here in the video. he is 70kg and almost half of what i am. big difference in flight time. while i need to use 50-60% throttle for leveled flight he gets away with 40%. very strange so hear him fly over my head like 10 meters away. like a whisper. its very close to be silent when a small guy is 50m away. they both flew electric first time and love it very much. so much thrust. yet so silent.
oh and glad you like the FPV videos. still learning. one day i will get better with all this stuff ☝🏻😋
You took advantage of being on the ground to make great drone footage! That's making 100% of the day!
Very encouraging start of the new born eppg.
Sunset footage is great, slow motion makes it fantastic!
cheers mate! i enjoyed your video also alot. watched it like 3 times.
Wow where is that beach? Beautiful.
i am living in china. thats near hong kong. there are nicer beaches around but i loke this one because i can drive car on and there are almost no people
Wow!!! An hour of flight time and STILL 27% left? Thats AWESOME!!
thats with 3 pilots launching and landing. i guess a normal sized pilot flying carefully will last even longer. i was surprised too. but thats not the end. working on a new battery right now.
Great stuff!! And amazing flight time -- 1+ hour -- on 4kWh!!! Amazing. Congrats!!! What are the dead battery characteristics while flying? E.g. what's the BMS low voltage cutoff, and how far are you comfortable discharging the pack to? Is it LiPo, 18650 NMC? I assume it is not LFP... Cheers!
nice build!as a skydiver , plane pilot, and rc enthusiast , ive always wondered what its like to fly a DIY electric paramotor , so this is how its like!
cheers fellow pilot. the main difference i felt coming from gasoline paramotors was the noise and vibration. both are missing. makes flying so smooth. normal ppg feels clunky and rough. super loud and not enough power for me. electric have so much more power. feels like double from before to now. i can launch very easy which wasnt possible before. but all that comes very smooth and without drama. no smell on way home inside car. no carburator nonsense tuning everytime. no maintainance. you plug battery in and give it a 5 seconds look. preflight done. 😝
people love to say the range is not enough but i couldnt be more happy. half hour is usually way more than i want to fly before landing and have a rest. i can charge from my car in 15min or just swap batteries to go back up. and then there is the silence when you let off throttle. oh boy thats the absolute best thing! i cant get enough just going up high and turn motor off. best feeling ever. for me personally the advantages clearly outperform every gasoline motor. less weight. much more power. super smooth and silent. and no more mess inside car after a flying day with oil and gasoline. i will never fly normal PPG again.
Hi Tim, At the end your showing stats as 1hour flight time. For 35kg big battery.
At 13:01 The last landing display was showing 00:28:51 minutes running time, I think. Would you be so kind and explain how you got an hour with display at 28mins? Please.
cheers mate, so the time you see right beside the battery gauge is counting reverse. means if you hold trottle lets say at cruise for leveled flight this timer will tell you how many minutes you have left at this power until the battery is empty. its an old display and this is usually used as battery caulometer for solar battery setup in your camper van or house. if you turn on things there this timer tells you hh:mm:ss you got left until battery is empty. its not a timer for how long we flew. 🫡
pilot used low throttle at landing and the displays last calculation shows that he could have flown 28 more minutes at that low throttle
That’s incredible. Thank you so much for explaining that. The same function is in Mercedes - you can see by the way you are driving how many klms with the fuel you have you can reach. Great stuff. Thanks
@@Jay-ParaOz exactly the same idea. 👍🏻
Do you have any plans for commercialization?
I think it's an attractive motor.
thanks mate. yes its coming
Hello, I watch your UA-cam channel with interest.
Where did you buy this electric paramotor and wing kit? What is the price?
cheers brother. wing is an ozone spyder 3 and the electric paramotor i build myself.
@@cloudpandarism2627 tahn kyou for ansver.Can you take orders for someone else?can i contact you?
Beautiful video, Panda! Thanks! You are a very good drone pilot too.👍
I love the comment,"Please don't crash.......!" I have said that before!
It is "Thanksgiving in the "States" today, so, I am going to my favorite LZ.😁
Also, what BMS are you using?
Thanks!
Bill
cheers bill! FPV was my way to the clouds before, because i couldnt fly the bloody gasoline paramotor.
haha yes they used my new ozone wing and my motor. and this guy didnt flew in a year or so... got me worried a second.
thanksgiving? send me the fancy food from there!
i think you asked me about BMS before right? maybe i forgot if that was you. i dont use BMS for many reasons. the charger have BMS build in and thats the only time i want to use it. while flying it only creates another point for failure. i worked with high powered Bms for over 10 years and NONE of them could hold the amount of power they are "rated" for from factory. sooner or later they all went up in flames. most times sooner. happy thanksgiving bill!
@@cloudpandarism2627 So, Panda, are you using li-poly batteries like I use on my OpenPPG X4 or 18650 or 2170 li-ion batteries? Thanks!
@@10661956 semi solid state lithium packs. and lipos too. but not the normal RC lipos people buy in 6s and strap them together. 18650 or any other cylindrical cells i tested and i dont like the massive voltage drop after half capacity is gone. but for lightweight pilots they are a good idea to make.
@@cloudpandarism2627 Yep, I'm looking forward to the next battery tech too. If the "Solid Power" cells are able to deliver the amps then they will probably be in my next battery.
@@10661956 right now they are in between 18650 and lipos. they deliver less amps than lipos but not so bad that voltage drops to 65 after some minutes flying under load. i am still not sure i like them or not. price is double. but they are nice and small by also having alot less weight with more capacity. we are getting there... give it couple of years and see what happens. nothing we can do right now.
Nice!
Hi, super video.
I need your help to buy solid state batteriesc, can you please suggest me?
What brand battery is?
cheers nuno. i saw your problem with the ESC and motor last time from marius. the motor is freeRChobby and made in my city dongguan. i know the boss of that company and had alot trouble with him years ago. not very good quality. i also bought many motors from them. always bad.
batteries i custom make from SSL DJI cells. do you ask me about ESC? or just battery?because i think you should adress your motor problem first. flying with low power to prevent motor stalling and ESC getting out of sync is insane dangerous mate
@@cloudpandarism2627
"... i saw your problem with the ESC and motor last time from marius. the motor is freeRChobby and made in my city dongguan. i know the boss of that company and had alot trouble with him years ago. not very good quality. i also bought many motors from them. always bad...."
Thank you (dont know your real name sorry :) good to know that info.
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"...batteries i custom make from SSL DJI cells..."
Thank you, got it, I will search more about that.
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"...do you ask me about ESC? or just battery?because i think you should adress your motor problem first. flying with low power to prevent motor stalling and ESC getting out of sync is insane dangerous mate.."
Works great only with props with low pitch
For now I just make a limitation on throttle to avoid this fail(motor or esc or both probably with bad quality lol), I would like to buy a MAD M50 C35 34Kv in the future, a lot of money for now :) Im building my own full eppg project through affiliate points around my social media.
wo kommen die alle auf einmal her, sekunde später wieder alle wech.... woooot? :S
🤣 ferdi das war ne gruppe kite boarder am üben. keiner davon war paramotor pilot
Is a 10kwh battery possible? What would the weight of a 10kwh battery be? What cells are you using? I'm not an electric guy! In fact I can't stand electric vehicles! However, I recently bought a Surron light bee which is an electric e bike. Fruity I know but the advantages of being able to ride it anywhere anytime silently out-weights my ridiculous opinions. My brand new moster 185 crapped out on me mid flight 300ft over water. You can imagine how that ended. I take full responsibly for the outcomes of my poor risk assessments. I live dangerously. This circles me back to an electric paramotor. I think if I can get somewhere close to a 2 hour flight I'm all in. I know a big battery will probably weigh close to 100lbs but I'm ok with that. It's only on your back for take off/landing. In flight i wont even know its there. Love to hear your thoughts good or bad if you have time. Thanks,
cheers mate. as far i know you dont need such big battery for 2 hours flight time. we are reaching that already. video will come when i had time to build 2 new prototypes.
and yes i understand you. many people are against electric. especially cars since they "always catch fire randomly" blabla. 🤣
i said it before and i stick to my opinion. flying electric isnt there to fully replace your gasoline engine if you love to fly 2-4 hours at a time. but 90% of all pilots fly around 30-60 minutes and that we can reach easy. its a good secondary unit to have for the relaxed afternoon cruise without the hassle to do any maintenance, carburetor adjustments, cylinder rebuilds and slashing around with gasoline or oil. the only thing you do before flight is look at it 5 seconds and plug battery in. 😅
that alone was a big step in the right direction for me. i hated my unreliable moster185 which caused me so many emergency landings. i will never fly gasoline again.
i own a surron too before but i felt it was too slow so i build my own 120km/h ebike with 55kw that time. if you think the surron is a nice thing to have and ride silently in places you couldnt take a good ol 2stroke than you will love flying electric. its much more silent and smooth to fly. if you are 50 meters away most people cant even hear you fly by. keep your eyes open for news here around jan 28 when we go to fly the newest prototypes. lots of videos are coming with big news and features. cheers°
@@cloudpandarism2627 Thank you so much for the response! Looks like I will have to wait until you release a few new videos. What Kwh is required for a 2hr flight plus 25% reserve left in the battery? It is my understanding if you drain these batteries to 0% there is a chance the voltage will be too low to get the battery to charge again.
@@anthonyferraro3847 nope thats BS. you can always charge these batteries since i am not using a BMS or any other device to lock the pack in case of low discharge.
we always leave a reserve in anyway. you do degrade the battery faster by flying it to absolute zero every single time. and you can increase the cycle times by charging it up to 90-95% only and fly down to 30% around if you wish to. not a must. with the newest lightweight unit i think 6 to 8kwh should be enough for that time but i also cant be sure yet since i changed so much. also depends on wing and pilot weight. the total take off weight should be around 30-35kg only with such a huge battery pack. but since my new unit is modular we can put on every battery combination we want. from a super lightweight 18-19kg 30min PPG up to whatever we feel is fun. me myself cant imagine flying for 2 hours straight. my arms will fall off. anyway we will test this setup and make a video. at jan 28 i go to fly and test 4 different units for 9 days and taking lots of video footage. i got like 10 different battery packs and many motor combinations. also lots of new nice features on the controller.
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