Repairing an old Wheel Loader (Fiat Allis 645B)
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- Опубліковано 2 жов 2021
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“It ain’t perfect, but perfect for what we’re doing” Matt. Lol. I love it
He needs to put that on a t-shirt with his logo 🤣
My OCD is driving me nuts ;)
I also use "good from afar, but far from good" when working on stuff like this
So, perfectly imperfect
I would love to see one of those machines restored to new condition but that would cost a mint
Matt, I just want you to know how much I appreciate you NOT feeling compelled to vocalize every thought and whim in your videos, unlike so many other channels I watch. Thank you! Just git 'er done. It's a pleasure to watch you work. And while I'm at it, THANK YOU for using the camera tripod and magnetic mount, instead of hand-held or hat/head cams. That improves the video quality immeasurably. Stay safe and keep up the good work.👍👍👍👍👍
Yes agree, I hate head cams!
Matt, you might try another LED light on top of the cab to eliminate the shadow blocking your view of the forks. A backup LED wouldn't hurt either. Fun to see the loader running so well.
I was thinking the same thing, I ran loaders in a underground mine and I preferred the lights on the roof over the ones on the fenders
@@jonaugust9336 Yeah half my lights on my 938 were on the fender, when I'm using the bucket I'm like just WHY
Love how you fixed up the door, and was glad to see I’m not the only one who uses a forklift to do that type of adjustment… 🤣🤣🤣
33:33 “way more gooder”, that’s a technical term.
In my book, yes lol
@@DieselCreek Matt......we have to talk..... your setting an example for all the little creekers out there....
You can't have a tractor that's on the juice.....
I don't want the International Tractor League to be investigating you for doping 😆😆😆😆😆😆😆😆
One of my late father in laws favorite terms. "There! That's way more gooder!!!"
Betterer than most. Specially when yer cleenin chimlees....
@@DieselCreek your fronts need air
Man, I love that you upload such long videos. There’s no real channels I like watching long episodes of but this is definitely one of them 👍🏼
I was at CAT heavy equipment and they make there own cables for different application
You need some plexiglass for windows and make sure the heater worked
Matt do you have your bucket seat out of you ranger maybe use a small pickup front seat
I agree with him , longer videos are great.
Andrew Camarata
When you live as far from town as I do shopping on Amazon, as much as I hate it, just makes sense from a time and expense point of view.
same here!!
@@shawnmciver3943 Absolutely. I live in the boonies. 10 miles from the nearest parts store who has to order almost everything, so 20 mile round trip to order it (they make you pay in advance!) and 20 mile round trip to pick it up. 60 miles from the nearest big city. Amazon delivers to my house and cheaper. Standard Parts Part No SS598 at Amazon $15.71 + tax - Total $16.97 delivered, local parts store $28.79 + tax - total $31.67 got to drive 20 mile round trip to get it.
I agree
@@Watchyn_Yarwood that is the same situation I'm in except the closest anything is 15 miles one way. Except there is a gas station/convenience store 3 miles away.
What's wrong with Amazon
one thing you need to air up the front tires on that loader when you get a chance , love what you do! wish I had never sold my wheelhorse tractor jerry
Matt - it was nice to meet you at the Expo. Everyone was so friendly.
This loader is a keeper for sure. Those forks are awesome!
"Not properly securing things with bungy cords."
Bro... lol.
You manage to hold my attention longer than most. The narration helps
Looks like you're gonna need to set up another container garage for all the "new" equipment.
You can put split bushings into worn holes in two half's made of thin steel . Easy quick fix lasts for centuries.
In mid articulation pins and bucket.
There are suction screens in hyd tank for main pumps intake and in transmission sump as well. Often never serviced . I had old Machine s clogged up screens would not move . Once clean perfect.
Allis Chalmers actually made it so you can tighten the cup down on the ball, to make them last longer in the field
Matt, I have an old dozer that is ether trained as well. I don't like using ether to start it so I use a propane torch. If you have the ability to access the intake, just direct the flame from the propane torch into the intake. The hot air builds more heat from the compression and it'll fire. Works surprisingly well! Great video as always man!
This is a great tip to get tired old diesels going!
A cleaner version of the fire start...a friend would soak a rag in gasoline and let it suck the fumes(knocked like hell), an old man I knew would use nothing but WD-40 as a start fluid on his Mercedes Benz or VWs.
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I have a 1996 Toyota Hi-ace 2.8l diesel van, when I got it back in 2003 it was a real pain to start in winter and generally the first start of the day.
I was well aware of either addiction and obviously used it like others do, out of desperation, but I found that a hair dryer worked in the air intake, on big machines probably a hot air gun would be needed, also I changed the glow plugs (At that time it had done about 280,000kms)
The glow plugs didn't make any significant difference,
I was then told, when the glow plug light goes off on your dashboard, wait about 10 seconds and you will hear a click upon using that method it helped a lot.
But the biggest fix was, just after I brought the van it needed a new battery, not knowing any difference I put your ordinary but good quality battery in I still kept having the problem for maybe 14 years until a mate went to a autostore (Repco) as a huge end of year special sale was on
The salesmen asked for the Rego number of my van, as it is a commercial vehicle it needed the proper battery for the average day of stop start driving (I live in rural Western Australia and don't do that as the van is a private vehicle but I don't do many miles a year)
He said it needed a 930 cold crank hour battery to let the vehicle operate correctly
The non special price? 350$ ouch
But thankfully on special for 190$. That solved all my starting problems, never had any issues since
Tony from Western Australia 🇦🇺
Gasoline is my favorite choice
Ether trained is a silly concept. There’s going to be a reason why you needed ether to start with, and unless you’ve rectified the problem you will need to keep using ether. And it will probably keep getting worse
When you were moving the old Ford Ranger around, I noted that the aluminum wheels on the truck look like the same model of aluminum wheels on my old '94 Explorer. I smashed one of those wheels-- I was doing donuts in about a foot of fresh snow that fell when I was in a movie one night, and clobbered a curb-- talk about stupid tax-- and had a pay a small fortune for a replacement. Those wheels might be worth a fair piece of money on ebay.
I started watching DC a few months ago. I think my first video was the Ford tractor. After a few random selections, I stumbled onto something that was part of a playlist. Since then, I've worked my way through several other playlists. It is fun to see a single project evolving! As I become more and more invested in your adventures, I realize that I'm having almost as much fun seeing things I recognize in the background. Seeing projects that predate, or happen during the building of, the container shed. Seeing Christine in the background of, well, many other videos. Seeing things that I already recognize, and in my head, slowly assembling a timeline from the out-of-order chapters I've already watched. I really am developing attachments to your machines, as if they were characters in a story. I guess they are! And seeing DC itself evolve, from the muddy lot through the container shed to the pad for the new shop is really satisfying. Keep 'em coming, please!
Thanks a lot Tom!! Glad you enjoy the content!
Always look at adding a cheap hour meter to the dash somewhere. You're already into the wiring, might as well toss $20 at an hour meter and make your maintenance work easier.
Matt, I'm no mechanics, but am amazed at your skills at bringing that old equipment back to life (recycling)👌 Keep up the awesome work 👍👍👍👍👍😺🤗
Interestingly most of the time, he is just doing a big service. All fluids and all filters changed and miraciously the machines run again. But you also nned to have the knowledge to do such "basics" and obvioulsy other persons lack it and Matt knows, what he is doing: the CAT tracked loader with the issues in the hydraulic valve block was a complete different thing. That was nice heavy machinery surgery.
This episode was just in my liking. Servicing old machinery is very satisfying 👍👍
@Diesel Creek, always love watching your videos. You give some real hope to other DIYer's when it comes to repairs and a lot of other things.
Good stuff as always, can't wait to see Christine with a new coat on her
That was the quickest hour video I've watched. It was over an I was upset there wasn't more to watch! Thank Matt! Ready to see more on it, the grader, and auto Car. Basically anything you put out I'm ready to watch!
I like the "stupid tax" saying, might be stealing that one for next time I lose or ruin something. Another good one I've heard, IIRC from Ford factory workers, was "idiot rash". Used to describe the cuts/bruises/blacked nails one gets from rushing a job or taking a shortcut. Edit @50min, the bent oil pan is a good sign IMO, along with the lack of blow by I'm hypothesizing they out of frame rebuilt it at some point and not hugely long before it was sat, hung it up on the drain spout as they reinstalled the unit.. At least, that's what I'd choose to believe if it were mine...
I really like your videos because they're strangely comforting to me. The thought of being able to work on machinery in the middle of a peaceful forest is very appealing :)
Hey Matt !! Great going so far on the 645B ,, What about the ""JEEP"" you pulled out of the barn that your Wife wants ?? Always something more to do ALL the time !! Have a good week & Hope that hydraulic hose DON"T break the Bank !!
Yeah, we want to see the wife driving her jeep.
"we didn't do any crazy miracles"
_allis is fighting for it's life in the background_
Not fighting very hard, Allis Chalmers never die
@@RJ1999x I can attest to that being a bold faced lie. I have a friend who bought a locked up WD and a replacement motor which was perfectly fine, and then the replacement locked up, finally on the WD45 motor it works but the amount of money he's dumped into the thing made it a moneypit
@@CoalChrome Had nothing to.do with Allis Chalmers. If you locked up a motor, it had no oil
@@RJ1999x no it had oil, and the second engine apparently cracked the block when they were trying to do a first start. all in the summer too
@@CoalChrome Wouldn't have locked up from a cracked block, almost every one of those engines have a crack, it meant nothing because it leaked coolant into coolant.
Damn. I didn't even comprehend that those were the yard loaders. I worked at a junkyard for years. Trust me, you did work a miracle. Junkyard loaders are rode hard, and put away wet. They only fix anything when necessary, and the work goes to the lowest bidder. If it can be fixed by somebody at the yard, then it gets fixed by somebody at the yard. I was a car buyer/emergency manager. I was in charge of the yard one day, and three of our four loaders went down in one day. Despite not even knowing how to drive them at the time, I managed to get two of them running. I even rewired one of them, lol. I got baptized under fire. I understand why you like working on this kinda stuff. They're fun to work on.
you painted Christine! looking forward to the video!
Nothing like new filters.. And I'm glad we got the experience CREEK Fries together ! 😎
Same here brother!
"This door needs some love" *angry Bobcat noises* 😂
He's the only one ever to do bodywork with a Bobcat !! 🤣🤣🤣
There’s Tough Love,
…and then there’s Angry Bobcat Love
Matt, I have a lot of youtube subscriptions from a variety of categories. But none I look forward to as much as your videos.
With all the water around the yard, the work you did on the road looks like it’s working
Diesel Creek
Always a pleasure to watch the videos you post, modern "mechanics" only replace defective parts, but you repair things until it can no longer be repaired and after that you repair it a few more times. Dont forget to air up the front tires of the loader....almost flat.
Love the sheet metal work on the door. Best BFH I’ve ever seen!
Panel beating with machinery? Okay now I've seen everything. Don't blame you for chucking the seat, by the time you carved out all the rust and rebuilt it, it would be like your grandfather's axe. Amazing that the new one just bolted in, hooray for standardisation I guess.
Great to see your ingenuity and patience to bring another old girl back into the light. Another amazing repair keeping these machines away from the scrapyard.
Need to put a timing degree wheel on it. Seems like the timings off just a touch. Especially if it only starts hard when cold.
Seen it in a lot of older engines. Seems like it will make you a decent machine for your needs. 👍
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Bobcat.
High precision, panel beating equipment!
Massive Respect from New Zealand
😀👍
As always Matt I enjoy your honesty and ability in dealing with equipment you revive to running condition.
After watching 10 or 12 of these 'style' channels now, I'm saying DC (and Mustie) are the BEST. Something about your down-home demeanor, how you talk, teach and show as you go, and of course, all great camera work that I appreciate. Enough to have purchased a shirt! Will contine to support as I can. Thanks for the great content Matt!
Matt, you've got to be the king of making up words and sayings on UA-cam. I'm always laughing when I hear "works much gooder"(can't forget the "ewwwwwuuuuccchh" when gross liquids come out of whatever tank) and unique ones like "ether trained". I really enjoy your content. Your humor and matter of fact way of speaking brings a ton of added enjoyment to your videos. Thank you Matt!
There’s also some AvE influences “here” and there.
Well Matt, if you know where one of those machines is being scrapped, go get some parts!
It's crazy how new filters and fluids can make a vehicle. Awesome job man, I learn tons from watching your videos.
I think machines appreciate it when you show them some love
Ought to send that old fuel to Peg, I bet he'd wonder why you'd never drain such nice fuel!
Those were the perfect junkyard sized loaders 40 years ago nearly every junk yard in our area had one . Should have the AC D301 engine that is very common.
They were common because Aljon used them to mount their forks and engine puller. They needed a loader that didn't have a Z bar in the way. The loaders were often paired with an Aljon car crusher.
Amazing video as always! learn a lot from watching your videos and it has definitely gotten me into rescuing old petrol lawnmowers and such and trying to see if I can make them live again which is really amazing so thank you for starting a new passion for me, love your videos man keep it up!!!
Love the content and detail in your videos. The fact you’re not a perfectionist but work to fit for purpose standard is why I can’t stop watching your vids.
Yep the longer the videos the better. Great job Matt.
@10:40 Ive lived my whole life in the south, but "grewn" is something you dont hear everyday! haha, great video @DieselCreek
Matt, I’m with the guy below, I love the content of your videos so length is not a problem as far as I’m concerned
I love watching mat, he's. Knows his job
Hopefully as you continue to run it more, the piston rings will clean themselves out some and inflate better, and that may improve the starting. Another thing with engines that sat inoperative for a long time is the exhaust valves and intake valves that were in an open position can have a coating of rust, which causes fractional compression loss. Adjusting the valves at some point might really improve the starting/running.
Upppi huh phojipijPooh on
Surely if the piston rings were stuck into their grooves there'd be engine blowback and as you clearly saw there is none.
@@jackking5567 That is a good point to consider. Perhaps this engine is one of the many that require glow plugs as part of their normal cold start procedure and they are not functional. I have not heard Matt nor other commenters mention glow plugs or other pre-heat provision for this engine.
I make my own terminals , copper pipe different size, flatten on side ,drill a hole , solder or crimp to your wire
Never did that, thanks for the idea.
decent idea
how do you crimp them? Just wondering you're method
@@M.TTT. I have a big crimper. But mostly I solder them.
@@M.TTT. I have a decent metal shop , but I've used old pipe , buss detail from panel boxes etc , copper is really fun and easy to work with , play around a bit you'll get it and have fun 👍
Yanno, ya got a very laid back style in your videos. You talk to the people like you're talking to a friend you haven't seen since last weekend, and then we come along for all the best parts of helping you work. (Without working.)
I love the passion that you have for working on all of this stuff
An hour long? OH hell yeah! Appreciate the videos, stay safe!
Everything doesn’t have to be a certified welding job brother! Looks great!
I ran a 644 for year's loved that loader. It was a beast with chains on in the winter pushing snow.
Matt, I always solder my connections after crimping them. It creates a "wet" connection, with allows more current flow to your starter. Saves on your battery too. I do that to my welding machines too.
Right On Time
I know people don't tend to rate Fiat very highly, especially their cars but being Italian like your good wife I have had a fair few Fiat vehicles in my lifetime. Their cars USED to rust in the 70s and 80s but are very good now. I have found that they produce a very good engine and if you maintain them and keep up with the required periodic servicing they last just as long as any other vehicle! They also produce good agricultural and plant machinery at a competitive price. Good video, you accomplished a lot in this one👍👍
It’s like an advert for Kroil!!
Best hour of my day... living vicariously through you, Matt
Bedtime in the UK, properly tired but somehow I’m staying up and watching more awesome Diesel Creek content.
This
Same for me too in Scotland but gotta love a new diesel creek video
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Me too!😂
Yup, I'm joining the club!
32:30 I ALWAYS appreciate when you do the safe thing over the dangerous thing - sure, there are times where you don't have much of a choice but to do something dangerous, but I like your policy of keeping them to a minimum. Thanks for being explicit about it!
Good advice.
So Christine is painted yellow!! Can't wait for that video.
Another great video Matt
You should call up your acquaintance that was cutting up one of these Fiat loaders for scrape and see if you can do a quick parts run.
If you know someone that's cutting one for scrap, get the wheel assemblies for yours, to keep in storage. I've never not found doing this with old equipment, to be a good idea. If they become broken, unable to at the very least act as rolling chassis, it's a PITA and a half to deal with.
Definitely. The planetaries are the main issue.
Why do people so often use double negatives it makes things harder to understand
@@benmac940 WHATEVER...
@@charlesangell_bulmtl it's not even proper English
Well Matt you made my weekend complete!
As my grandfather use to say " its like polishing a turd" With those brand new Headlights. Matt all of your videos are awesome to watch I'm glad I found this channel. And also being from Western PA I enjoy the scenery.
Heading that 645 startup sure brings back memories. Good on you for getting this one back up and running!
Look around locally and see if someone has a used door they’d sell. I’ve never had any luck bending a door back after it’s been taco’ed
It's easy enough to make a jig from a scrap piece of ply. Tack down the points that are straight. Pull out the bent parts. This of course has to be done a little at a time with a dolly and hammer. A puller if available will help. It's easier than it sounds. Any broke bits can be welded.
I still think u should go back for those old tractors that where sitting next to that ol loader. Bring life back into them, give them a new home, give them the life they deserve. Just like your doing to your wheel loader and other machinery u bought. Anyways love the content, keep it up.
Matt, you're a bloody genius.
Man your yard is muddy back by the big loaders! I love watching you run these old girls around!
Operated one of those 20 years ago I spent many hours in it they are a decent piece of iron.
Good video Matt. One of the few channels I watch through from beginning to end regardless of the content.
I love watching you work, your work ethic is fantastic, but I think that comes with loving what you do. Keep the videos coming, love them
MY FRIEND MATT, ..YOU ARE THE WINNER ALL THE TIME.
“Paying ya stupid tax “ 🤣🤣🤣 done plenty of that in my time 🤣
Button monkey. Ignorance is my main problem, stupid is next. But remembered experience delivers.
@@lawrencewillard6370 😀, remember, “ it”s always easier second time around”
Same here I never knew the name till now though
@@buttonmonkey6845 Been there, often. Then regroup.
I never heard that saying before, but I love it. I have paid my fair share!!😂😂😂😂😂
51:40 the junkyard i frequent has setup a fuel doctor station for incoming vehicles. They suck it up and filter it. I think the owner is an old sea dog, he has a few boats on site he's working on from time to time, and i know his diesel cleaning station is 100% marine grade what with those meter long fuel filters. The guy is smart as they come and has been more than nice with us who come and pay weight price to get stuff that would otherwise be wasted.
come on, that fuel he pulled out seemed to be perfect quality...
If you are running waste oil burners that is.
Looks still better than the heavy oil large ships burn...
I like the way you talk to the camera - it's like you are speaking to your buddy.
In the 1970s, I'd worked up in the Colorado Rockies, for the U.S. Forest Service, Road Maintenance Department, on miles of gravel, USFS service roads , located up in the 2,936 sq mi, San Juan National Forest.
I operated a Cat, Track-loader with a clamshell Drott Bucket. A lowboy, pulled by a White-Western Star truck, powered by a "Shiny 290" Cummins with a RTO 915, Road-ranger tranny, is what I hauled the Cat with. We'd be out 10 days, then 4 days off, before heading out again for another 10 days, of working up in the National Forest. Over the tears, I'd also operated some other vintage dozers, loaders, trucks + different makes/models of farm tractors, while doing ranch/farm work in AZ, NM, OK, CA. I'd operated an old Oliver FDE Cletrack, International TD-9, TD-18, dozers, a Case 450 dozer, a Cat DW-15 belly dump scraper, Gallion 503 grader ... I'm in my 70s now, I'd retired at 65, after spending some years, driving "Petes'" "KWs'" Mack + IH "Binders" over the road, long haul, all around the lower 48 states for "Star Transport", "SMX - Smithway Motor Xpress, MWL,
I really enjoy your videos.
10:33 - Nice distance and hang time, Matt!
right? i was like "where did he throw that to? ... damn there it is!"
Matt your new camera seems to much clearer. Thanks for another great video.
What a nice piece of equipment. Sounds, seems, she got her lungs open, like a whistle and cheery revs. Great.
it"s good to see how far you've come with your channel! Keep up the great work.
Could do with some extra air in the front tyres... (tires) 😉 another great video, really enjoy it when you work on the machines....
Finally! Some color on Christine ! Been waiting for this!
Fat Alice is my favorite of all your machines!
Could listen to that all day long
Try pushing the shift lever straight down and see if the old starter switch still works. They’re good old machines
You can probably bring the seat to an upholstery shop for new padding and covering, might want to try that, I’ve had a Harley Davidson seat totally redone and it came out awesome!👌🏻🤙🏻🤙🏻
It's nice to get everything serviced so you know what kind of shape the loader is in. Good job!!!!
Perfectly securing things with bungee cords? CLASSIC! 😆
#1 there is a loose belt on the fan #2 on water filter/condictioner about 8" above is a thumb screw to turn the coolant off & the conditioner is anti rust & mold blocker !
We love the Clark 129 because it's unique Matt, I know the Fiat is the perfect size but don't scrap the Clark
Sell it and support the channel more....that's how you do it
@@netrioter Look back at the video where he worked on it, I believe he did say his intention was to sell it.
You seen the price of scrap metal lately! Scrap that big son of a gun!
I think the Clark is more of a flip than a scrap deal. Way too valuable in working condition to scrap
@@unclegreybeard3969
Yep, he says it himself, almost useless on his property and it being so heavy, impossible to take it to job sites.
A little lipstick on it and it should sell to a profit !
I enjoy watching your videos, because you explain everything so well.
Looks like all your hard work paid off really well. Good job! You need another one of those fantastic LED light for a backup light.
11:00 Matt still has that awesome old Cheap Jeep 😂 Old Iron and XJ's...2 things I'll always love. I bet that fuel got bacterial/mold/algae infected. My buddy has a 7.3 IDI Powerstroke Ford that sat for a long time and that's what the fuel looked like too.