1950's Barn Find Schramm Air Compressor Lives Again!
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- Опубліковано 17 лис 2021
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The reason that steel is still good is because of where and when that steel came from, quality counts. An era where things were built to last or at least be repaired
Right...now everything is made with "planned obsolescence" in mind...
@@haydenc2742 This thinking goes back to Henry Ford back in the Model T days.
Nowadays stuff is cheaply made that doesn't last for crap and when it breaks we just toss it out and buy a new one
"Products" are literally designed to "fail" nowadays. I absolutely hate that fact! I know in my heart that I am not alone in and on this matter....but I can hardly stand for what is taking place here all around us.
Or is it the fact that this type of compressor is feeding a little of the engine oil from the sump off the cylinder walls. Over here (NZ) we used VW engines in the same manor
That’s a truly beautiful piece of 50’s industrial Americana. When things were made beautiful just for the joy of it.
Made to last is what you mean, quality not quantity.
That would be a nice matching set with a 1950s SA200 welder.
Beautifully simple, yet very effective
To me, it's a sad commentary on the American manufacturing community in that so many don't make products that are meant to last. I realize that it comes down to the almighty dollar, as always. Very sad!
@@robertburns3014 Yep planned obsolescent is how companies make make money.
Back in the mid 1940s is when things began its start. Companies after the war were making such good stuff that people would buy one and would almost never need another on for the rest of their life, they could hand these tools down to their kids. So by the late 60s to 70s is when they began altering things. They would make switches much thinner so they would last only a few thousand cycles vs the 100s of thousands before. By the late 80s and 90s overseas became far better choice for cheap product and people could spec that they wanted a motor or a switch to last x amount of cycles. This also make the unit cheaper becauce one less winding over millions of motors is a lot of money.
I honestly believe that when someone builds something, a little bit of their soul goes into a machine.
This is why I talk to them when I'm using them, so it knows that I care for them.
30 years in a basement, 18 months to service and repair, and at the end of its next run,
it sets off a blue flash in the exhaust. Was that a firework of celebration?
I'd like to think so...
If the neighbor complains about WTF the noise is, you can tell them GO SCHRAAAM!!! LOL
Workshop must have been filled with helium when you were talking about the fuel tank Matt😝🍻
LOL I was thinking the same thing! 😂
@@SuperCOOLDAD1 me too
Snap!!
I don't think you had to speed up what you said here, I can wait. If you want to do that in future there is software that can both speed up what you say AND reduce the frequency of your voice to normal. It's how some of those "motor mouth" ads are made. Those guys aren't all professional auctioneers! 8-))
Got to love how fast that compressor builds up air!
IKR....definitely a power house compared to many compressors!
Pressure over time is linear to volume.
Heads up Matt, use Only Premium fuel that has No Grain alcohol in it. Wisconsin engines were designed to run on premium fuel, when they were made gasolines still had lead in the fuels. You have to ask the filling station if their premium grade is alcohol free so you know exactly what you have. I've never had any problems running alcohol free premium fuel in my VH4D Wisconsin engine and it runs better and longer on every gallon of fuel. Well worth the extra money/cost per gallon, IMHO. I have a used fuel filter made by Carter in the USA. It measures 3" tall X 2" wide. It also uses a replaceable fuel filter and a brass shut off valve, if you still want the compressor to have all US parts! If you ever need a part number for any engine parts I have a genuine Wisconsin parts catalog, it's quite big/large and shows all Wisconsin engines catalog 236 I believe.. it has a lot of valuable information if ever needed. It even has a picture breakdown of your carburetor in it😮. Glad you finally got it working and P.S. ship my first comment in the first video as i wasn't aware you had produced another video. I had found a carb rebuild kit. I can get you the float part numbers if wanted. Ty for the videos always Matt. Say ruff to your pooches from mine, please.😂😂❤
When air tanks are tested they are ran up to 300 lbs. But they are also inside a specialized tester.
That compressor was built when things were made to last forever. That tank will last three lifetimes if it went back to work every day right now.
Completely agree, the daylight savings shit is horrible. Completely screws up everything. Love your videos. I bought a old massey ferguson 20d and plan on giving her a new life. Don't worry about the haters life throws curve balls all the time. Just make the videos that you feel like working on.....I watch them all. Take care!
What you said! 💯%
What a Sweetheart! She's got that 'Nuclear-Dawn' kinda look to her.... A wife, 2.3 kids, a white-picket house and a boat of a car in the driveway. And of course the good 'ol Schramm in the garage. Well done Matt. Cheers from the prairies of Canada.
Fabulous industrial design on this compressor. Just seeing how the gas tank was protected by a steel shroud within the unit was amazing compared to the gas tanks on other projects where they just hang on top like an afterthought. Great project.
Nice compressor man! Don’t you wish that kind of quality was still produced today.
So so badly
I wouldn’t care where it was made as long as it’s not junk !!
@@DieselCreek it's amazing how we are amazed at quality!!!
When a product does what it's supposed to do..... for a long time... with the money we have to spend!!!
@Will Besquared It is. We either can’t find it or can’t afford it. Oh the irony 👍🏻
@@DieselCreek With guys like you keeping these machines clean and working, they'll be around until I'm an old timer, and by then, they'll definitely be made normal and common again
Very cool piece of equipment there. Glad you are going to put it to use. And I 100% agree on the time change. I call it daylight wasting time. Hate it.
Nixon tried to change the time somehow and so when we were having lunch at third period in high school The sun hadn't come up yet. 🙄🤨🤔😟
I think his excuse was it would give people more time to do things after work before it got dark in the evening.
I agree
yup I loved this. thanks for bringing that old gal back into service. Thoroughly enjoyable.
Only an idiot would believe you can cut off one end of a blanket, sew it back on the other end, and have a longer blanket.
One thing about the time change. We were once an agrarian country. By moving the is moving the time ahead gave us gave us more time to be at in the fields plowing and planting. Yeah now we are less agrarian Arian and we he go backwards and time after the summer the summer to give give more light for the children who have to ride school busses. That way they won't be in the dark in the mornings.
My guess as to why the Air tank is so clean, rust free is because the engine itself is heating the compressed air which prevents any or most moisture from entering the compressor, air tank. That was easy to figure out consideribg it's design. You shouldn't even need an inline air dryer to run your sandblaster, all factors considered. Absolutely love this setup, air compressor. Take extra good care of it as it could possibly be the last working model left in existence!
Good stuff man. I love this old stuff
You and me both bud!
Except for women and presidents.😁😁😁
That's unbelievable that after 70yrs that tank and machine look the way it does im blown away at the condition of the inside of the tank 😳
You just don't see that kind of quality anymore now... all mass produced out of thin cheap stuff now
Okay the fact the writing was still in the tank is impressive. Really seems to be a solid find, even if it took a little while to get it up and running.
@Diesel Creek Fun Fact, this model of Engine was used in the 40s thru to the late 50s, early 60s by a company called Beirsach and Niedermeyer as motive power for AN AIR RAID SIREN. These are quite rare engines and quite collectible.
I had two of these about 30 years ago, both were pieces and had been stored in fruit crates for many years when I bought them. I was able to get both of them running and used one of them every day for a couple of years in my service truck, great and simple design.The Wisconsin engine was a reliable and easy to repair engine . It's great to see that someone else is also enjoying them.
I love that old equipment. Styling and simple to fix. No damn electronics.
Arizonian here - We dont have time changes - time changes are a joke. That air compressor isn't though! I really do love that old style it has.
Not from usa here. Just wondering hpw you can go without time change when other states don't. Does it not mess things up time wise or it doesn't really matter?
Here in Arizona we don't change times, we have full sun year round, some times too much!!. You must have some great neighbors not to complain about the "guy with all the machines and heavy equipt". running them in the evening.
Good job on a great old piece of history there. I was fortunate enough to be born in 1946 and grew up in the 50's and 60' when the "good stuff" was made. I still ride my old Harleys' and a 1949 Cushman motor scooter I bought in 1960 when I was 14, I'm 75 now and I enjoy your channel.
"Who's a good boy, Roscoe?" •BOOP• 🥰
I really enjoyed this one Matt. I'm not gonna lie, I had a smile on my face when I heard that pressure release open up and the motor stayed running. That is a very nice compressor.
Hi Matt, I really enjoy your problem solving skills. You seem to go through very logical steps to come to solutions.
I have lots of experience working around compressors and rock drills. I am now 78 and wear cochlear implants to allow me to hear. I blame most of my hearing loss on the listening to that escaping air (rock drills did not help either). I say this as a heads up to wear the best hearing protection you can buy.
Your channel gives me lots of pleasure. Reminds me of some good old times. Keep it up.
Who downvotes videos? I don’t understand the thinking that goes into it. You don’t like something don’t watch it.
Great video Matt, I love the look of old equipment and that Schramm compressor definitely fills the bill.
IT IS SO GREAT WATCHING OLD GEAR COME BACK TO LIFE TY.
Any video with Meathead is going to be an automatic thumbs up. Hard working dog to go with his hard working ball kicker owner.
Old school kool. Testament to a time when made in North America meant something. Quality. Not offshore junk they're forcing on us today
I’m 27 and I’m optimistic that America will get back to making our own shit as my generation gets a little older and starts getting into positions we can get things done. We’re old enough to have nostalgia of our grandparents old stuff that worked great, but young enough to feel the sting of having grown up with no options other than overpriced chinesium crap most of our lives.
My brother used to have an English Bulldog, R.I.P. Chopper, anyway.. boy did that dog LOVE his GF the semi-inflated (flat) beach volleyball.. she was his best friend all times of the day! hahaha memories.. what a good dog he was..
I like what you do on your channel but it's your enthusiasm and excited satisfaction when you finally succeed. Makes me feel good for you and me too.
Love how excited you get when an old machine runs smoothly
Ahhh his voice goes all squeaky 🤣🤣
I 100% agree with you about the time changing. "winter-time" as we call it here in Norway. We lose one hour of daylight in the evening when we need the light most. I just hate i too.
Nice video by the way, I like all your videos. I even learn alot from them.
Well ... When turn the clock back 1 hour in the fall its turn it back to the normal rythm... 😁
You can safely test tanks like this by filling it with water, and create pressure with pressure washer. I tested my 7bar hydrovane compressor to 14bar with water. Safe to use with air now. :)
If the tank fails when filled with water it will do it slow and water will come out without major explosion because of the mass.
I can't tell you how much I appreciate your videos. An old timer myself, I'm impressed with someone as young as you having such extensive knowledge of machinery, your methodology, and your undeterred determination to get these motors running where many others, myself included, would have given up. It's an inspiration for me to get working on all those old garden tractors I have sitting in my yard. What I am especially fond of is how much you remind me of my father-in-law, a man dear to me, and who we lost 17 years ago. He ran a salvage yard here in WI, and I spent countless hours with him tinkering on one antiquated piece of equipment, or another. I chuckle, and often cringe, the same as I did with him, when I see your "techniques" at coaxing along a project. Keep up the great job, and thanks for the many hours of the behind-the-scenes effort you put into these "effortless" looking videos.
You have to remember that when they built that they built it to last .Unlike the things they build today
A true testament of good Ole fashioned workmanship.I love that you appreciate older equipment and have a passion to keep it going.
It was a nice touch having Alvin the chipmunk do a narration. :) "The hot blue glue gun" I love it.
It’s good to see old Winston enjoying his footy.
We all have projects that "shouldn't have taken so long" but the important part is that you went back and finished it.
That has to be the coolest air compressor I've ever seen. It can use another muffler, maybe mount it horizontal over the battery box so it doesn't mess with the looks to much.
That compressor is perfect for your farm You now can easily run air tools, fill tires, blow off parts, get dirt out of tight places
I've lived in a place without the time change for about 10 years now, and it's wonderful.
What a gem! Found one several years back not quite in as good shape as yours but still very solid. Been sitting forever and I kick myself for not buying it. Guy wanted 400 dollars and I know I could of got it for 250 or so. They don’t make equipment like this any longer and if they did it would cost so much it wouldn’t make sense .
lmao, 32:20, voiceover sped up a tiny bit sounds like you've got some helium voice going on! Fantastic, got another chuckle out of me this morning! Also, I can't believe that bracket steel was thick enough to weld without blowing out instantly. Just shows how well made stuff used to be. Oh no! a terminal installation tool! now that terminal is junk! Hahaha!!! Agreed, time change is nonsense.
Matt cosidering a name change to Chip or Dale :) hahaha
Too funny lol
That is a nice piece of equipment.
Glad to see it brought back to life.
Michael (from Scotland)
Och is aye, laddie !!
I died when the chipmunk took over... wasn't ready for that. Awesome video as always!
Great to find an old piece of equipment and bring it back to life.
what an awesome unit, the folks that built that really cared about quality, your lucky to have found it!
Recommendation: Get some of the non-detergent air compressor oil...and while it's compressing air...drip a drop or two slowly into the air intake pickup for the compressor...get a teeny bit of lube blowing thru the system to lube the compressor side upper end and rings and maybe that gummed up unloader valve
Also might try a cup or two of seafoam in the oil before running hard to break that sludgy junk up before changing oil (make sure you let it drip a while) and might even think about running say 1/4 cup of marvels mystery oil per 5 gallons of fuel in the tank to lube the upper end of the engine as well (plus it helps stabilize the fuel and counteract all that alcohol bs that loves to corrode and gum up aluminum carbs these days)
Also might try backing off on the needle valve on the carb a 1/8 to 1/4 turn to see if that helps (might be running lean?)
Very cool to see an old school gas powered air compressor chugging along...and boy howdy does it pump up the pressure pretty dang quick!
Keep em coming!!!!
Does this air compressor oil work well in the non oil compressors of today to help the tank not rust out??
That'll depend on what kind of head it is, plastic won't like it but rockers should be fine
@@Hyratel Yeah, the cheapo oilless compressors of today use a nylon ring to seal the cylinder to compress air (this is why they say to run it for 30 min not under pressure to seat the nylon rings), the oil ones use metal rings and have a sump for oiling the bearings...but don't usually get oil above to lubricate the valves, a few drops occasionally will help lubricate that stuff
I will have to look into this more. The head is metal. Thanks.
Them ole wisconsin engines are the gasoline equivalent of a Detroit diesel never let you down
Haven't heard the sound of a Wisconsin engine for almost 40 years!
Really digging the King of the Hill-esc score during the carb rebuild.
i just got to that point too.
I was just on that point too when I read your comment
High-Speed Matt @31:45 . Not to be confused with Superfast Matt!
Nice job.
and thanks for the tip on drill @torque setting when threading.
Says Matt: "Contact"! Says the compressor: "Arf, arf"!
I bought a Schramm air compressor just like in this video at an auction about 5 years ago and had it running at the time of purchase but did little sand blasting with it as I did not have a good place to use it. I just now finished a 30’ x 66’ pole barn and pulled the compressor out from behind my garage. Your UTube videos on this unit will be very helpful in getting it back up and running again. If you ever have a chance to snap a picture of the decal on the sides of the fuel tank cover, I would really like to have my sign guy reproduce a couple decals since my unit is missing the decals. Let me know if you need my email. Also, my son and I will come up to the National Pike Show in May. Hopefully see you there. I have been bingeing on your videos this week as I have some down time. Love your style of logical troubleshooting this old stuff. I work mostly on Farmall/IH tractors and Flywheel engines. I have learned a lot about diesel engines and the steps you take to get them running from your videos and have subscribed to your channel. Thank you and keep the Old Iron cranking,
Time flies when you're having fun😂😂
We the people voted overwhelmingly to do away with the time change. The powers that be ignored us. You have my complete sympathies. I really struggled with this last change. Maybe I'm just getting old. At least I can watch your entertaining videos in my own time. Love Meatball and his ball. Thanks for sharing!
daylight savings time made sense when we used candles and oil lamps and crap...now we have electricity 24/7....need to rethink it for sure!!!!
What a beauty. Really nice bit of kit there. Back then they actually made this machines almost like an art piece themselves. I once visited an old power plant that had been derelict for many years. The architecture in that place was just astouding. This air compressor reminded me of that old beauty of a power plant. Thanks and awesome job as always :D
Art Deco 👍🏼
I love Meatball's love/fascination with the huge red ball. I like all dogs, but dumb/silly dogs holds a special place in my heart. I am in no way denigrating Meatball, I just revel in his playfulness with the huge ball, but it is a bit silly.
My dad used to work at Wisconsin motors back in the day. Built things to last forever back then.
I highly recommend using red Loctite on the Helicoils when installing them so they don't back out with the bolt if you go to remove them in the future.
never thought of that...but definitely makes sense...LOCK em in there Güdntight
There's something satisfying about scraping and vacuuming crud off of things.
Once saw a small tractor designed for work in small spaces. It had a small backhoe and also had an aircompressor set similar to that,except that engine started out as Ford V8 around 300 C.I. Front two cylinders on the engine were converted to air compressor,rear four were still used as engine.
The sound reminds me of an old John Deere tractor my neighbor once owned.
We used to rebuild a lot of those for a local tire company that had about a dozen road service trucks with the Wisconsin V4 compressor. The parts for the Wisconsin were 4 times as much as a full set of pistons, rings and bearings for a small block Chevy.
I used to work for an automotive machine shop back in the mid 70's. Wisconsin rebuild parts were expensive back then and i agree you could almost rebuild 2 small blocks for the cost. These motors were used a lot on agricultural equipment. We seemed to notice that if some item such as a motor or gearbox was used on farm equipment it was more expensive than automotive or industrial uses.
Our farmers wonder why it seems the deck is stacked against them.
Wisconsin is some quality gear though. You have to keep the gunk out of the cooling fins though. The biggest offenders we saw were mouse nests, dirt wasps and wheat and hay chaff.
Manufacturers used to care what their products looked like and that they had a repeat customer if the need arose. They also cared about and valued their employees.
Not so much anymore.
The running issue at the beginning was you had a fouled plug and were running on one cylinder. The second cylinder cleared out and now you have a good running machine. Do a good tune up on it. It will only take half the time to do it..........
Cheers
Terry
I mean, that would kinda be expected considering the sbc was produced for 50 years, and millions of them were sold. Wisconsins werent rare by any means, but no where near the amount of small block chevys.
@@MPGamingCentral so very true. It's hard to believe a smallblock is getting hard to find though. Geez I'm getting old!
@@terryfromsouthcarolina4601 GM doesn't make them anymore, but other companies still sell blocks that use the same platform, although even that is getting a bit more rare with how well the ls series has been holding up so far.
Old engine sounds ,brings back memories
I would love to find anything powered by an old wisconsin. 💕
I love how each rusty metal tool gets its chance to open the video! ❤️
Schramm did those conversions with Dodge slant 6's and 318's as well! The 6 would be 3+3 and the 318 would be one bank engine and the other is compressor! 😁
The slant ones were the best. The straight 6 ensured there was an explosion driving every compression.
What a sweet old machine, nice to see that thing chugging along 👍
That song during the carb assembly sounded like the king of the hill intro lol
The inside of that tank was pretty surprising. I suspect it gets fogged with a little blowby oil from sharing the crankcase?
I never liked the fall back time change. I get tired around 5 o'clock now fight to stay up to 10. I just can't seem to get use to it. That's a work of art. I like the old style look and how simple it is. Another great addition to your channel.
One of the reasons the air tank is so clean is because the air is filtered before it goes into the tank. The air filter uses an oil bath and that will pull water out of the air. We used this compressor for 40yrs at my last job. Just a reminder, the battery is 6 volt. One of the biggest problems we had with it is that it was very LOUD!! We tried everything and it did not work, ear plugs.
Im so happy i went to trade school to be a machinist, because it taught me how to do things correctly and safely.... Great vid... esp good for sandblasting.....
We live in a throw away society, meaning things that are made today dnt last cos of how much easier it is to make so whn it breaks most people just throw it away and get a new item. Compared to 40 50 years ago whn things were harder to make things were made to last and with a bit of simple maintenance thay lasted really long or whn it broke 30min with some simple tools and you could get it working again old things are the best and old cars/vehicles
And every Main Street had an appliance repair shop - radios, TV's, toasters, phonographs. Sometimes next to the shoe repair shop, Now it's a Starbucks,
@@gwpsr58 that's so true 👍
Remember, Helicoils need to be tapped with the special Helicoils tap.. there are other thread repair options that use standard taps, though they require larger holes to be drilled.. keensert is one manufacturer..
Rockmount has thread inserts as well.
They take up a lot of space compared to a Heli-Coil.
Id say that tap came with that kit like most do......so its probably the exact one needed for the task....
Very cool compressor, as an unrelated “Schramm” it’s always neat to see something with our family name on it !!
Great job getting her back goin.
A tip for ya (just the tip and only for a minute), get a flexible extension pen flashlight for looking into cylinders and tanks. Puts the light on the inside and doesn't block the hole.
Can't be blocking the hole!!
Can't be blocking the hole!!
Yes, I don't like the time change either, Matt! I wish they would leave it on "daylight savings" time all year long.
Thanks for saving a piece of industrial history!
Reader comments suggests the oil bypassing the piston rings as the key to no rust forming in the receiver tank. I have to suggest the heat of compression as well as the radiated engine heat for "boiling" out the water. If only oil, I would expect that to buildup over time. I didn't study the video, but I didn't see any sort of tank blow-down tap.
Keep up the great work!
A portable endoscope camera might help while inspecting the interior of air containers, fuel/water tanks and dark corners of engine compartments etc.
I'm with you on that clock change thing! I just love the old equipment when they come back to life.
I’m surprised it’s been 3 years, it didn’t feel like it was that long ago.
since I got it, yes
@@DieselCreek 👍👍👍👍
Man you can’t beat how they made stuff back in the day.
made with pride in America, quality and good materials 👍👍
One of my favorite things to do while watching your videos in particular is look around your garage and see what other projects are in there and what other things you have hidden in plain sight and what other cool things you have like the copper light and at the end of a you got yankem rope hanging on besides the truck ramps
I understand the excitement of getting things to run and operate after a rebuild and and refurbishing. Nothing like it. Stay the course sir, good job. I am with you on the time change thing.
That air compressor is perfect for a sandblaster. That’s a beauty. I’d love to have that.
DC consider yourself in the ranks of AC.(not easily done in my books) Since I found out a while back watching until the end you give hints on future vids this was your funniest. Thanks Earl
Regarding the 'Time change' I literally despise it with every fiber of my being.. The air compressor is quite a find. The craftsmanship back then is unsurpassed, built by men that took pride in themselves and their work..
the song played during the carb reassembly instantly gave me King of the Hill memories haha.
That is definitely a badass compressor now it just needs a little trailer
You might end up with trouble from that sediment bowl. I put what looked like the exact same one you got on a 1930's Le Roi twin and at times it does not seem to have enough flow through it to let the engine take more throttle. Just a heads up if you start having trouble. Love seeing old engines get new life.
Big difference between a shop compressor and one of those old compressors, nothing but very dry air going into that tank and maybe possibly a little bit of blow by on the Rings. It's a no wonder why that tank is in such great shape besides the craftsmanship and the thickness back in those days. By the way I actually have used one of those for doing some small sandblasting jobs I would say in the early 90s. What an awesome machine! That you definitely have an eye for those old machines and a whole bunch of luck. Thank you so much for sharing keep up the great work.
Can you explain how the the air being pumped into this compressor gets more dried out than the ones we see today?
@@jacktrades5 Jack trades 5 thanks for the reply, first of all the air coming into that tank is probably heated by an actual working engine. Besides the fact that the intake system is far better than just a simple screw in filter like so many of the cheap systems have today. I use several types of these for sandblasters and never once had to drain any tanks although I tried I can explain the whole deal I just know that they have a lot dryer air being pumped into those tanks. Hope you have a great day.
I totally agree with the time change issue. Only the government thinks you can cut one end off of a blanket and put it on the other end and get a longer blanket. I wish they would stop the madness.
The noise that thing makes when its starting.... sounds like the tow truck from the movie Maximum Overdrive! 😁
One thing with compressor tanks is the older tanks tend to be made thicker. Their should be a AMSE tag with the pressure vessel info.
Is there a reason or was it just them not knowing how “thin” they could make them or? I’m curious
Back then they made stuff right so you didn't have to keep buying new like you do today. It was over kill so it would last.
There appears to be a tag that's been painted over on the tank. You can see it at 6:57 and a couple other places.
He shows it
@@ronniewilliz153 That's a different plate. The one shown isn't painted over.