I was fortunate enough to sneak in (I was 20 years old) to the Tender Trap where I would sit at the feet of these masters and get "schooled"! I met GIANTS in the jazz scene in Las Vegas in the 70's. What a joy to find this!
Just as Jack Teagarden changed jazz trombone playing with his use of "turns," and Dorsey revolutionized the art with his beautiful high register lyrical songs, so these men (and others) have added another dimension with their fabulous "doodle" tonguing.
Gerald, the turn is a four note legato embellishment used extensively by modern jazz trombonists to enhance the richness (or coolness) of their interpretations. It's hard to find a prominent jazz trombonist prior to Jack Teagarden who utilized any "turns" at all in their solos. Now the turn has become a universal staple in the repertoire of all professional jazz trombonists.
Thanx for the info. By coincidence "Paul the Trombonist" just released a video on the subject of "turns." I had been playing them myself but didn't know it. 8)
You can't get anymore technical than this!! Even at blazing high speeds like this, Carl and Frank were able to play so musically, they made the trombone sing!! Truly amazing!!
Was fortunate as a baritone horn player in TBDBITL(Ohio state marching band ‘60-61) and trombone player in local bands in 60’s to see Kai winding in Columbus Ohio local jazz club circa 1962 and Carl Fontana circa 2000 in person at upper deck in va beach va. Wonderful trombonists. Also saw Kenton and four freshmen at homecoming Ohio state in 1960. Not sure if June Christy there too but maybe. Also saw frank Sinatra twice in person, once in Norfolk in ‘75 and again in Atlantic City with Tony Bennett circa late 80’s. A lucky guy am I to have seen these jazz giants.
The trombonists are amazing, of course but the pianist is wonderful as well. In fact the whole rhythm section (including nameless bassist) took care of business.
Shit Folks! What These two Cats make of MUSIC with Cherokee! Amasing! By the way, saw/heard Carl Fontana in the trombone section of Stan Kentons band in Oslo,Norway way back in 1956!
Shit Folks! It wasn't ONLY Jay Jay J & Kai Winding (the dane) and Curtis Fuller! Y had also Carl Fontana and Frank Rosolino! By the way I heard Carl Fontana with Stan Kenton's band in Oslo,Norway 1956!
I wouldn't put up Curtis Fuller in the same league as the others as he lacks their intonation and precision. I'd add the wonderful Jimmy Cleveland, and imaginative Eddie Bert.
Too many chromatics without a relationship to the melody. Well Rosolino, you're my all time favorite playing the instrument I love most, your no longer alive, you live in your recordings.
I was fortunate enough to sneak in (I was 20 years old) to the Tender Trap where I would sit at the feet of these masters and get "schooled"! I met GIANTS in the jazz scene in Las Vegas in the 70's. What a joy to find this!
Just as Jack Teagarden changed jazz trombone playing with his use of "turns," and Dorsey revolutionized the art with his beautiful high register lyrical songs, so these men (and others) have added another dimension with their fabulous "doodle" tonguing.
Please s'plain "turns." I never heard of them. Also, are u sure they don't use mostly double-tongueing?
Gerald, the turn is a four note legato embellishment used extensively by modern jazz trombonists to enhance the richness (or coolness) of their interpretations.
It's hard to find a prominent jazz trombonist prior to Jack Teagarden who utilized any "turns" at all in their solos. Now the turn has become a universal staple in the repertoire of all professional jazz trombonists.
Thanx for the info. By coincidence "Paul the Trombonist" just released a video on the subject of "turns." I had been playing them myself but didn't know it. 8)
I started playing trombone nearly 60 years ago and played on and off for many years. These guys are pretty good.
Dayum, that tempo is upstairs!!
You can't get anymore technical than this!! Even at blazing high speeds like this, Carl and Frank were able to play so musically, they made the trombone sing!! Truly amazing!!
Was fortunate as a baritone horn player in TBDBITL(Ohio state marching band ‘60-61) and trombone player in local bands in 60’s to see Kai winding in Columbus Ohio local jazz club circa 1962 and Carl Fontana circa 2000 in person at upper deck in va beach va. Wonderful trombonists. Also saw Kenton and four freshmen at homecoming Ohio state in 1960. Not sure if June Christy there too but maybe. Also saw frank Sinatra twice in person, once in Norfolk in ‘75 and again in Atlantic City with Tony Bennett circa late 80’s. A lucky guy am I to have seen these jazz giants.
Frank does a great job in following Carl’s tour de force!
There's arguably much more music journey in Franks playing...pity his human-time was destructive
@@chrisgreive870 Yeah, you can tell he's struggling a bit to keep up with the tempo, not that it detracts from his godly playing.
It's amazing to me that there are so few comments or views of this. I guess that's why we're "artists."
I didn't know it was possible for any human being to play that fast!
especially on trombone!
Holy. Moly. 😱
Yare---that's a killer tempo!
The trombonists are amazing, of course but the pianist is wonderful as well.
In fact the whole rhythm section (including nameless bassist) took care of business.
There is a God, he plays trombone, and he takes on different personalities. Jeeeeeeeeeeeeez!! Unbelievable!
The tender trap in las vegas. Carl & Frank, Vinnie Falcone (P), Bob Badgely (B), Louie Bellson (D)
no valves here people, it's a slide and it's amazing!
Yep, no prisoners!
Carl, the Lightning Doodle King!
The Best
Shit Folks! What These two Cats make of MUSIC with Cherokee! Amasing! By the way, saw/heard Carl Fontana in the trombone section of Stan Kentons band in Oslo,Norway way back in 1956!
WOW! I think those trombone players must have practiced a little bit.
How about Bill Watrous (in the photo)?
Louie Bellson smokin'- " one more time"
JESUS!!
Think of Italy as the country of the Bel Canto? Listen to these 4.
I don’t know if this has been altered or if these kats are blowing this tune up a half step but either way🤯
I was wondering why it was in B and it’s messing with my head 😂
I thought all these years later someone would have pulled it down to the right speed. But! It isn't real much faster than original pitch.
Recording equipment back then wasn't like it is today. It wasn't played in B. It's still in Bb.
Holy Schmoly!
Are my headphones broken, or is the constantly changing stereo sound unbearably distracting?
At 3:36 the right side cuts out almost completely!!
Holy S!; t!
Yeah
Metronomes don't go that fast!
There is also Bill Watrous playing on this session right?
7:45 Go Louie
These guys are on the Charlie Parker level here! Interesting fact - all of them were of Italian ancestry!
Their playing is superb, I just wished the quality of the recording matched it.
Shit Folks! It wasn't ONLY Jay Jay J & Kai Winding (the dane) and Curtis Fuller! Y had also Carl Fontana and Frank Rosolino! By the way I heard Carl Fontana with Stan Kenton's band in Oslo,Norway 1956!
I wouldn't put up Curtis Fuller in the same league as the others as he lacks their intonation and precision. I'd add the wonderful Jimmy Cleveland, and imaginative Eddie Bert.
I definitely put Curtis Fuller up there.
We can’t leave out Slide Hampton, Andy Martin, Bob McChesney, Scott Whitfield, Michael Dease, Ido Meshulam…
@ChipTingle they were referring to the post -WW2 generation (not modern players).
why is Bill in the pic
CALEB, THIS IS WHY: ua-cam.com/video/ns6_-WthPX8/v-deo.html
That's from the Colorado Jazz Party
At 6:45, is that Red Rodney standing there??
Definitely IS Red, around 6:00 or so, in the checkered shirt.
Anyone know who the bass player is?
Bob Badgley
who plays the bass?
Anamaria gómez cortés Bob Badgley
i really with this wasn't sped up so i could see how they actually played it.
It's actually not much faster than the original recording, only by a few bpm!
Too many chromatics without a relationship to the melody. Well Rosolino, you're my all time favorite playing the instrument I love most, your no longer alive, you live in your recordings.
Sorry! but this is impossible!
I prefer Frank's solo, it was more musical
Almost unbelievable tonguing by Carl. Still musical though. Frank wasn't as musical on this one imo. I know no one cares. ;)
Sometimes it turns out to be technique for the sake of technique but little musical interest.
Not for real🎉
What a joke
Technically advanced but to me sounds like very bad taste just like rap! It rhymes with CRAP!
I was there. The recording does not do justice to what was played
Tell me you know nothing about playing trombone without saying you know nothing about playing trombone.
@@adamhawkins3000 Sorry but you sound like a confused puppy dog!
Or bebop
Ah yes, another individual with a musical IQ approximately level with room temperature.