Havent finished the video but I hope Tyler Hoechlin's Superman is your pick. Love Cavill but I think Superman & Lois really captured the true spirit of both Clark Kent and Kal El. Also Bizarro from Superman & Lois was an excellent adaptation.
@@Hyp333R Omg same!!! I feel like I’m alone in that. Because all my friends prefer or only know of Hal Jordan But John Stewart is my absolute favourite Green Lantern
I’m happy to see Bitsie Tolloch’s Lois Lane get a lot of love here too because I genuinely think she has the best performance out of everyone in “Superman & Lois”
I thought the Lex Luthor from Titans was good but they got rid of him so fast. Also the jimmy Olsen from Superman Returns didn’t have that much screen time but still felt like Jimmy Olsen
While the battle of 'which comics company has the best movies' has gone back and forth over the years, in the arena of TV it's been DC on an undending winning streak since, like, the sixties. You never think about just how rarely they miss there. Even when you count animation DC wins out pretty much every time.
It could work. Rob’s Batman juggling being a key figure as Bruce W and Batman. Also trying to mentor this wounded and traumatised child who needs guidance. During the second act he should have a fall(Maybe physical but caused by stress) or something and then he could get back up because he can’t be there for Dick if he’s dead. Robin being a reason for Batman to be alive would make their breakup in the 4th or 5th movie more emotional as Dick becomes Nightwing. Idk if this makes sense.
I love Brenton Thwaites as Nightwing tbh. I don’t care what anyone says he’s great. Also Titans season 4 is such an improvement over the last 3 by far. Titans had a great Deathstroke and Brother Blood is pretty great too so far. He’s a very sympathetic character and it’s sad to see him turn bad.
- Batman: Christian Bale & Robert Pattinson. - Superman: Christopher Reeve & Tyler Hoechlin. - Wonder Woman: Gal Gadot. - Green Lantern: Ryan Reynolds. - The Flash: Grant Gustin. - Aquaman: Jason Momoa. - Green Arrow: Justin Hartley. - Black Canary: Katie Cassidy. - Martian Manhunter: David Harewood. - Cyborg: Ray Fisher. - Shazam!: Zachary Levi.
I honestly actually think that we've gotten a consistent, great, more experienced version of Barry Allen in Season 8 of The Flash. I won't compliment the show itself in it's overall writing because most things are currently weightless, but they really nailed The Flash's capabilities with and problem-solving resourcefulness. Now the villains only get away by resetting his priorities just enough to escape in ways that Barry can't indeed catch up or stand above the ground where he can't chase them and when that doesn't work they appeal to the latter. His current support team now is more about B-plots and gadget creations when needed (which is less often than it used to be)
The Flash shouldn’t have the current support team that he has in the show and he shouldn’t have ever have had them in the first place. The team that he in the comics are much, much better than the one that he has in the show. His current support team should be a group of speedsters and not a group of useless characters that not only aren’t actual members of his team in the comics, but are also useless to the plot. I don’t know why they didn’t use the true Flash Family in the show in the first place and the worst part about this is that they recently used the true Flash Family and then threw them away and used the useless current support team that The Flash unfortunately has since Season 1 that nobody cares about. If I was inconsistent with this comment, I am sorry, but I hate the fact that The Flash Family hasn’t been done justice.
Batman: Christian Bale Superman: Christopher Reeve Wonder Woman: Gal Gadot Green Lantern: Ryan Reynolds Flash: Grant Gustin Cyborg: Ray Fisher Aquaman: Jason Mamoa Green Arrow: Stephen Amell Lois Lane: Bitsie Tulloch Jimmy Olsen: Marc McClure Dick Grayson: Burt Ward Batgirl: Savanna Wetch Joker: Heath Ledger Lex Luthor: Michael Rosenbaum
I just wish they didn’t randomly decide to make it a separate universe after hinting at it being the same at the end of the Crisis and introducing Dig. On the other hand, there’d be no other way to explain why no other heroes show up when the world is threatened
How do you think Michael Cudlitz will do Luthor on Superman and Los? The Birds of Prey TV show was pretty good, and Dina Meyer did a good job as Oracle. Found it and give it a chance.
Lex adaptations have usually gone for trying to adapt him as a very specific type of rich guy/genius, and even if some of them are fairly good for what they are, they end up only being part of the whole Lex picture. I think Jon Cryer's Lex has the capacity to be a real great if they give him a clear runway, though; all the pieces are there, they're just unfortunately stuck in later-day Supergirl as a supporting character.
I still don't understand why the 2005 Fantastic Four film and Rise of the Silver Surfer, instead of making Doom the arrogant dictator in a metal suit who uses both science and magic that he is they instead gave him the same origin as the FF, had his skin turning metallic and he had electric powers for some reason.
@@Xehanort10 Truthfully, I think they both have the same quality that makes it hard for adaptations: there's A LOT going on. Both of them are designed to be long-term and kinda multi-purpose villains, that can turn up in multiple contexts. That's perfect for comic books since it allows for a lot of variety with the same characters, but in movies especially it's kinda just too much; you have to pick a slice and adapt that. Every movie version of Lex has picked a different part, while every movie version of Doom has instead been kinda forced to tell his story alongside the Fantastic Four and hope it works. (Which it doesn't, because the good parts about Doom are the parts he grew independent from them.) In long-form TV that approach does better; Lex did well on the Superman animated series and Smallville (and would've done well in the Arrowverse if given space). Doom I don't think has ever been tried in the same space, but he'd have potential there.
I cannot agree with your Alfred Choice, i think the Gotham version was leagues better in portraying the bond between Alfred and young Bruce. His lectures to him about morality, drawing a line, and what it takes to be a man were very memorable moments. Also, it highlighted Alfred's badass SAS training which provided an opportunity to show how far he would go to protect Bruce. I'd say the only weakness is he doesn't quite look the part but considering it's a younger version, it makes sense.
1:55 One stupid thing about Smallville Jimmy though is that after he was killed off they went "Oh he has an identical twin brother with the same name."
I’m don’t know a lot about politics, but Green Arrow was the mayor of Star City in Seasons 5 and 6 of Arrow. So he is political and he was in a relationship with Laurel, so he did have a romance with Black Canary.
Bold take on Lois but not mad at Bitsie, I think she caught some hate for basically being a tough family woman and has more of the grit. Though I disagree its only between her and Erica. Both Margot Kidder and Teri Hatcher were great and Amy Adams caught some hate but was good also. I think most go with Erica but Bitsie is closer to the comics Lois than people want to admit
Hey I love your video and I was wondering can you do a video about what the arrow tv show would look like if they get the right to batman.In other words can you make a video about what the arrow show and the arrow verse would look like if they use batman instead
@@BMoneyYTB He has a decent amount of growing to do as a detective, but he did do the most detective work of the live-action Batmen because the other ones focused more on the action and showcasing his gadgets and/or physical prowess.
I may get some flack for this: I agree with almost everything you said up until Batman and Superman. I do like both Tyler and Robert as their respective characters. However, for me, Brandon Routh and Christian Bale are my favorite adaptations of those two characters. Affleck would be in the top spot for my Batman pick, but there’s the killing that brings him down, as well as the fact that while he’s a very good Justice League Batman, we’ve never gotten to see him on his own. If he’d gotten a movie or two completely to himself, it’d be a different story. As for Superman, I’ve always been in a minority that liked Superman Returns a lot, minus the son plot. Routh as always felt the most like Superman to me, and when they brought him back in the Crisis, he was given my favorite live action Superman suit. Solid video 👍🏻
I take back what I said, because you said that they were your favorite adaptions of these characters. But I still believe that Christopher Reeve is the best Superman and I'm not alone.
The New 52 costume is pretty different than the movie one, with the traditional briefs instead of the battle skirt, granted in darker colots. The movie style costume came in with Rebirth.
I feel like Robert Pattinson's Batman is the perfect start for a new DCEU. To be honest, they should've started the DCEU with Batman either way since he's the money maker. But for real, if you get a good Batman in your DC universe, you have a connection to every other character. I can't wait to see what's next from the Pattinson universe.
There's a struggle with Batman adaptations that's shared with Spider-Man: you essentially hire for two roles, and most of the people who've done it have only done one all that well. Christian Bale is a good Bruce Wayne but a bad Batman. Pattinson's shown he can do a good Batman, and going by other stuff he's been in he could definitely be a good Bruce Wayne, they just haven't let him try yet. The only Batman actors good at both, by the way: Adam West (for the type of Batman he is) and, of course, on the voice side Kevin Conroy. If we call Stephen Amell's Green Arrow an honorary Batman since they basically wrote him as that a lot of the time, then he joins the club too.
This is gonna be a hot take but…Heath Ledgers joker was awesome, but not necessarily a good adaptation of the Joker character The joker in this movie is more into anarchy and based around “society is crazy” which don’t get me wrong is very in line with the Joker character but that’s not all he’s about. There’s more to him than that.. He also refutes the idea of being called crazy which isn’t like the joker at all. Joker in the comics knows he’s crazy and relishes in it. He loves how crazy he is, so to hear joker in TDK deny being crazy is kinda wrong. Plus you have the liberties with the face paint and the scars, and while comedy is a subjective thing. This version of the Joker isn’t all too funny. Yes there’s some stuff like the magic trick, and spray painting (s)laughter on his truck, as well as the irony of lighting a fire truck on fire. But for the most part this joker isn’t too humorous. Heath Ledger is still my favorite actor to portray the character in live-action (Mark Hamill is my favorite overall). But that doesn’t mean he is “the definitive and accurate portrayal”
Bold pick on Tyler too. I think Reeve is iconic and people today like Henry but I think Tyler has emerged as a more complete Superman in personality even if not in looks. But Reeve is Reeve
Sope Dirisu as Batman Michael B. Jordan as Superman Kylie Bunbery as Wonder Woman Michael Ward as Aquaman John Boyega as Cyborg John David Washington as Green Lantern (John Stewart) Jenna Ortega as Green Lantern (Jessica Cruz) Sasha Calle as Supergirl Adria Arjona as Zartanna
Let’s put it this way. Amell’s version of Green Arrow is so good that the latest Robin Hood movie basically did a reverse-adaptation and used the concept for the original hooded archer character
@@inukaiser true, but it was definitely successful, at least the first several seasons. It’s why they decided to expand a single show into a whole franchise. Sadly, it’s now dead
Hey man, I respect your decision on picking Tyler Hoechlin as Superman and I hope you don't take this the wrong way but picking Elizabeth Tulloch is crazy when Erica Durance is clearly the better Lois Lane overall. her character is so well put in Smallville and her relationship with Clark is so good. When it comes to the relationship factor Smallville's and SaL's are two ends of greatness, Smallville's representing an early relationship and SaL's relationship 15 years later. But I digress, Just saying that Erica Durance is the better Lois Lane in my opinion.
Your description of Gal as an actress literally is beside the point. The question is simply based on if her WW was a good adaptation. Whether or not she appears in better films doesn’t make a difference. The fact is that WW isn’t and hadn’t ever been taken seriously so even 1974, as bad as it is, would be adapting her comic book character. However, since that’s not what they were trying to portray, it isn’t seen that way. All that tells me is that that age of comics shouldn’t ever be adapted. For example, your Aquaman is correct, precisely bc they just straight up avoided the silly take on him. But his second film was not much better than WW84.
3:26 The Joker movie is great from what people have said I haven’t ever seen and I don’t think I will because I want a true Batman Joker!!!!!! 3:58 Heath’s Joker is my favorite!!!! Different take on the Joker but still as evil and devious as the books!!! Jack’s is great I loved it comic orginish accurate and I loved that Joker finally got a name “Jack Naiper” a name that has stuck around. Leto’s Joker I liked the different take on it and I liked Leto and the movie didn’t give him what he deserved considering the intervention of WB and Leto saying all of the scenes he filmed could add up to a movie
I love to see Battinson have the evolution of the bat family. Wallis Day is young enough to be Batwoman for Battinson's continuity, Jackson Dunn (the actor who played Brightburn) would be young enough for Battinson's robin and we could use Leslie Grace's batgirl for Battinson's franchise since James Gordon in the franchise is black.
@@trevturp7687 I can understand that your not a racist. Neither am I. Than how come we got a black James Gordon in the Battinson franchise? Leslie Grace is not fully as black as him. And do you wish (as much as I do) Wallis Day can play Batwoman in Battinson's franchise where she can portrayed epically and fairly compared to how CW treated her?
The Black Lion: "the one thing that stayed consistent, aside from Season 4 is that I never stopped liking Oliver Queen as a character." Me: "Correction, the one thing that stayed consistent, aside from Season 3 is that I never stopped liking Oliver Queen as a character."
Opinions on DC iterations Titans Dick Grayson is early days nightwing during the 1980s-2000s where he was angry with Bruce and was still going through his flaws, so I cannot say that he’s not accurate. Lois Lane has been a toss with the past 3 live action versions of the character since S&L, smallville, and DCEU did her justice. I personally love Amy Adams’ portrayal of her determined reporter & sass. With Batman I’m tossed with Ben Affleck with his iteration’s history and how his story was redemption and rediscovering his beliefs, Val Kilmer with EVERYTHING, and Robert Pattinson with everything that you pointed out. Superman it’s difficult because Cavill was the early days version of the character’s story whose still trying to do more while the world criticizes him, Tyler brings the experienced yet optimistic version of the character and deals with being a parent, and Routh was always been a good Superman especially with crisis that showed his tired yet hopeful hero doing his best. I want a movie with these 3 iterations of Superman to bond and support each other like NWH, but for the majority of the movie.
I don't think tyler hoechlin being the best superman adaptation is going to be as hot of a take as you thought. The vast majority of people who love the core of the superman character love his portrayal.
I'm probably in the minority but I really liked DCEU Flash, Miller as a person is a different story but he nailed the infectious Spider-Man-esque energy that I think is crucial to any Flash who's part of the Justice League (look at DCAU for reference)
@@-That_F_Guy you're probably right. Its just to me when they have these big superhero team ups I think it helps to have at least one character who realizes how absurd the situation actually is and Flash (Barry, Wally, Bart, etc.) is a better fit for that character type than any other main Leaguer (I don't really consider Shazam a main member)
The next version of The Flash also needs to have a way better Flash Family than the one that he had in the Arrowverse along with a way better utilization of The Flash Family than the one in the Arrowverse, because those people at The CW undoubtedly did The Flash Family dirty.
Tyler is definitely the best Superman. I think it's because he has everything great you can find in other adaptations. - Good fathers and son relationship - Good Earth / Krypton identity struggle - Good Lana relationship - Good Martha relationship - Good Lois Lane love relationship - Good villains - Good stories The only thing missing are a good Jimmy and Kryptonite storyline.
Wasn’t arrow supposed to be a Batman show and they were told like last minute while writing they couldn’t use him and then they panic picked green arrow
do this for Marvel as well please, both worst & best adaptations. Obviously it probs won't be too hard since most of the MCU characters only have 1 live action portrayal. But I'd still enjoy it
Pls do a part 2 you could do Zachary Levi and Asher Angel as Shazam and Billy Batson Jack Dylan Grazer as Freddy Freeman is also really good Dawyne Johnson as Black Adam
At first I saw the idea of comparing Gustin Flash to Miller Flash as ridiculous, but I can’t help but compare the emotion in Barry’s visits to his dad in the tv show to the ones in JL. It’s hard to not admire the chemistry and performances in the show over the film. Then again the interactions in both versions of the movie were bogged down by lazy exposition.
You have to watch "Lois & Clark" the superman show from the 90s, that show's Lois Lane & Jimmy Olsen are the best live action adaptations. Teri Hatcher was a great Lois
5:43 Stephen Amell’s Green Arrow was always supposed to be the arrowverse’s Batman bc for whatever reason they don’t have the rights for Batman or any of his characters except his cousin Batwomen apparently, and the show Gotham somewhat had the rights to do certain things with Bruce Wayne and the his characters 8:13 and Grant Gustin was ALWAYS A BETTER actor than Ezra Miller
@@trevturp7687 Bruce Wayne is mentioned by Oliver Queen and mostly team but also some members of team flash, yes he’s “in” the arrowverse but legally they can’t actually use him
Wow! No mention of Dean Cain or Teri Hatcher from Lois & Clark: The New Adventures of Superman?? They had the best Superman, Lois, Jimmy, & Lex Luthor imo
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Jimmy Olsen doesn’t HAVE to be an outdated character, that type of optimist could be really refreshing nowadays honestly
Yeah I'm not even a fan of the character but it feels wrong to just say he's outdated.
im confused, why is jimmy olsen outdated?
The best live action Lois is Teri Hatcher
I never considered him outdated. Why would he be? He's Jimmy Olsen
I wanna see Tyler's superman and Robert's batman together so much. I am sad that it will never happen
+1
Tyler has such a weird face
@@Gabriel-all but his expression is perfect
Tyler is a horrible Superman
@@thehahvokexperience How so?
Batman (in the movies) being allergic to robin is a perfect summary.
I think it's because to get that chemistry tha5 they have, you would need multiple movies or at least a mini series
Saying Jimmy Olsen is an "outdated character" is like saying "Superman is difficult or impossible to adapt"
Havent finished the video but I hope Tyler Hoechlin's Superman is your pick. Love Cavill but I think Superman & Lois really captured the true spirit of both Clark Kent and Kal El. Also Bizarro from Superman & Lois was an excellent adaptation.
definitely
Tyler ain’t even top 3
@@whitetrash64 According to who???
@@prolastmedia6171 your mom
@@prolastmedia6171 most people. 95% of general audiences would have their top 3 compromising of Cavill, Reeve and Routh, with maybe Welling
I hope we get a good Green Lantern, whether it's Hal or someone else
I mean, if you watch Stargirl...
Jade pretty much serves as the best live action Green Lantern which is so mind-boggling
Id love to see a guy Gardner ngl
@@jackboldt9138 I mean he’s getting an hbo max show
for some reason i always prefered John Stewart over Hal Jordan, probably animated Justice League series put that in my mind
@@Hyp333R Omg same!!!
I feel like I’m alone in that. Because all my friends prefer or only know of Hal Jordan
But John Stewart is my absolute favourite Green Lantern
I hope we get a reboot of flash that’s actually epic and has stuff from everything we love this time
@darkshadowX The adaptation of “Wally West” that we got from the Arrowverse is not an adaptation of Wally West, he is an adaptation of Wallace West.
And it will do a way better job with The Flash Family than what The Arrowverse did with them.
@darkshadowX Actually it isn’t both.
@darkshadowX They will and of course, they'll recast Flash, Iris West, and Reverse Flash.
@darkshadowX No, it isn't.
I love Tyler as Superman, but Christopher Reeve is THE Superman hands down
My fav live action “joker” is actually Jerome from Gotham. Cameron Monaghan is just insanely good. Was hoping he’d at least get a mention
Yup. Jerome is awesome, also my fav live action 'Joker'.
gotham nailed joker
idk without the joker name and brand it doesnt really feel like joker. still like the actor and gotham as a show
I’m happy to see Bitsie Tolloch’s Lois Lane get a lot of love here too because I genuinely think she has the best performance out of everyone in “Superman & Lois”
I thought the Lex Luthor from Titans was good but they got rid of him so fast. Also the jimmy Olsen from Superman Returns didn’t have that much screen time but still felt like Jimmy Olsen
i think in titans lex is returning, becuase we saw a lot of him in the trailer just to kill him off in 30 mins doesn’t make sense
Really mind-boggling how DCTV has most of the best live action portrayals of DC characters
except for flash
@@JitTrippinFr0 WRONG
While the battle of 'which comics company has the best movies' has gone back and forth over the years, in the arena of TV it's been DC on an undending winning streak since, like, the sixties. You never think about just how rarely they miss there. Even when you count animation DC wins out pretty much every time.
@@JitTrippinFr0 Wrong
@@JoelMiller431 Agreed
I can’t wait to see Green Arrow & Black Canary finally as a couple
me too it always disappointed me that we never got that relationship in Smallville or arrow i hope the DCEU finally gives it to us
We already have seen them as a couple.
@@marlonclark1896 We did get that relationship in Arrow.
I like Michael Caine is Alfred Alfred in Gotham is just next level
Awesome video, I'm really enjoying your videos about the best and worst DC Adaptations 🤘🔥🔥
Me too, even though I disagreed with some of his picks.
imagine all these characters together to create the best dc universe
I feel like Robert Pattinson's Batman isn't ready for a Robin. He doesn't feel experienced enough
It could work. Rob’s Batman juggling being a key figure as Bruce W and Batman. Also trying to mentor this wounded and traumatised child who needs guidance.
During the second act he should have a fall(Maybe physical but caused by stress) or something and then he could get back up because he can’t be there for Dick if he’s dead.
Robin being a reason for Batman to be alive would make their breakup in the 4th or 5th movie more emotional as Dick becomes Nightwing.
Idk if this makes sense.
@@komojiro7397 i get what you're saying but I feel like Pattinson's batman doesn't feel like he would do that. Yet. Maybe after the 2nd or 3rd movie
@@bleh-0608 Yeah I agree with you but it seems like most people want a Robin In the sequel
I love Brenton Thwaites as Nightwing tbh. I don’t care what anyone says he’s great. Also Titans season 4 is such an improvement over the last 3 by far. Titans had a great Deathstroke and Brother Blood is pretty great too so far. He’s a very sympathetic character and it’s sad to see him turn bad.
- Batman: Christian Bale & Robert Pattinson.
- Superman: Christopher Reeve & Tyler Hoechlin.
- Wonder Woman: Gal Gadot.
- Green Lantern: Ryan Reynolds.
- The Flash: Grant Gustin.
- Aquaman: Jason Momoa.
- Green Arrow: Justin Hartley.
- Black Canary: Katie Cassidy.
- Martian Manhunter: David Harewood.
- Cyborg: Ray Fisher.
- Shazam!: Zachary Levi.
I honestly actually think that we've gotten a consistent, great, more experienced version of Barry Allen in Season 8 of The Flash.
I won't compliment the show itself in it's overall writing because most things are currently weightless, but they really nailed The Flash's capabilities with and problem-solving resourcefulness.
Now the villains only get away by resetting his priorities just enough to escape in ways that Barry can't indeed catch up or stand above the ground where he can't chase them and when that doesn't work they appeal to the latter.
His current support team now is more about B-plots and gadget creations when needed (which is less often than it used to be)
The Flash shouldn’t have the current support team that he has in the show and he shouldn’t have ever have had them in the first place. The team that he in the comics are much, much better than the one that he has in the show. His current support team should be a group of speedsters and not a group of useless characters that not only aren’t actual members of his team in the comics, but are also useless to the plot. I don’t know why they didn’t use the true Flash Family in the show in the first place and the worst part about this is that they recently used the true Flash Family and then threw them away and used the useless current support team that The Flash unfortunately has since Season 1 that nobody cares about. If I was inconsistent with this comment, I am sorry, but I hate the fact that The Flash Family hasn’t been done justice.
Batman: Christian Bale
Superman: Christopher Reeve
Wonder Woman: Gal Gadot
Green Lantern: Ryan Reynolds
Flash: Grant Gustin
Cyborg: Ray Fisher
Aquaman: Jason Mamoa
Green Arrow: Stephen Amell
Lois Lane: Bitsie Tulloch
Jimmy Olsen: Marc McClure
Dick Grayson: Burt Ward
Batgirl: Savanna Wetch
Joker: Heath Ledger
Lex Luthor: Michael Rosenbaum
Kevin Conroy is the best Batman.
“He’s still a bit off” as he beats a man to death
5:17 I prefer Smallville Oliver. Arrow Oliver became a supporting character in The Felicity Show.
Stephen Amell is the best Green Arrow, not Justin Hartley’s Green Arrow.
I'd give Alfred to the Gotham version
yeah
Choosing Tyler as the best live-action Superman is peak Chad behavior. Nothing but respect for this list
Wow I never knew Marc McClure also played Gal Gadot playing Wonder Woman. That's rad.
Lmfao
Both Dina Meyer and Yvonne Craig from the 60s show are fairly great adaptions for Barbara/Batgirl
I love Superman and Lois. I'm so glad you're addressing it so much in this video. It's very underrated.
I just wish they didn’t randomly decide to make it a separate universe after hinting at it being the same at the end of the Crisis and introducing Dig.
On the other hand, there’d be no other way to explain why no other heroes show up when the world is threatened
@@artembentsionov I like it being a separate universe because the other shows are so convoluted now
@@bleh-0608 yeah, but it suddenly feels so empty
@@artembentsionov No, it doesn’t.
How is it underrated? Everyone likes it.
Wait?
Where' Bennett's Deathstroke?
How do you think Michael Cudlitz will do Luthor on Superman and Los?
The Birds of Prey TV show was pretty good, and Dina Meyer did a good job as Oracle. Found it and give it a chance.
My two favorite comic book villains of all time, Lex Luthor and Doctor Doom, have yet to get live action adaptations that truly nail the character.
Lex adaptations have usually gone for trying to adapt him as a very specific type of rich guy/genius, and even if some of them are fairly good for what they are, they end up only being part of the whole Lex picture. I think Jon Cryer's Lex has the capacity to be a real great if they give him a clear runway, though; all the pieces are there, they're just unfortunately stuck in later-day Supergirl as a supporting character.
I still don't understand why the 2005 Fantastic Four film and Rise of the Silver Surfer, instead of making Doom the arrogant dictator in a metal suit who uses both science and magic that he is they instead gave him the same origin as the FF, had his skin turning metallic and he had electric powers for some reason.
@Xehanort10 one of the most baffling takes on any comic book villain. And they didn't do much different in the 2015 one.
@@Xehanort10 Truthfully, I think they both have the same quality that makes it hard for adaptations: there's A LOT going on. Both of them are designed to be long-term and kinda multi-purpose villains, that can turn up in multiple contexts. That's perfect for comic books since it allows for a lot of variety with the same characters, but in movies especially it's kinda just too much; you have to pick a slice and adapt that. Every movie version of Lex has picked a different part, while every movie version of Doom has instead been kinda forced to tell his story alongside the Fantastic Four and hope it works. (Which it doesn't, because the good parts about Doom are the parts he grew independent from them.)
In long-form TV that approach does better; Lex did well on the Superman animated series and Smallville (and would've done well in the Arrowverse if given space). Doom I don't think has ever been tried in the same space, but he'd have potential there.
Most live adaptations of Lex Luthor have nailed the character.
I cannot agree with your Alfred Choice, i think the Gotham version was leagues better in portraying the bond between Alfred and young Bruce. His lectures to him about morality, drawing a line, and what it takes to be a man were very memorable moments. Also, it highlighted Alfred's badass SAS training which provided an opportunity to show how far he would go to protect Bruce. I'd say the only weakness is he doesn't quite look the part but considering it's a younger version, it makes sense.
Pennyworth has the best portrayal of Alfred Pennyworth.
Aquaman film Is vey underrated
How is it very underrated? A lot of people like it.
1:55 One stupid thing about Smallville Jimmy though is that after he was killed off they went "Oh he has an identical twin brother with the same name."
I’m don’t know a lot about politics, but Green Arrow was the mayor of Star City in Seasons 5 and 6 of Arrow. So he is political and he was in a relationship with Laurel, so he did have a romance with Black Canary.
Bold take on Lois but not mad at Bitsie, I think she caught some hate for basically being a tough family woman and has more of the grit. Though I disagree its only between her and Erica. Both Margot Kidder and Teri Hatcher were great and Amy Adams caught some hate but was good also. I think most go with Erica but Bitsie is closer to the comics Lois than people want to admit
Hey I love your video and I was wondering can you do a video about what the arrow tv show would look like if they get the right to batman.In other words can you make a video about what the arrow show and the arrow verse would look like if they use batman instead
Pattinson's Batman is the only Batman who do detective work. Love him he is great sigma.
@@BMoneyYTB He has a decent amount of growing to do as a detective, but he did do the most detective work of the live-action Batmen because the other ones focused more on the action and showcasing his gadgets and/or physical prowess.
Gal Gadot already is a perfect live action interpretation of Wonder Woman.
I may get some flack for this: I agree with almost everything you said up until Batman and Superman. I do like both Tyler and Robert as their respective characters. However, for me, Brandon Routh and Christian Bale are my favorite adaptations of those two characters. Affleck would be in the top spot for my Batman pick, but there’s the killing that brings him down, as well as the fact that while he’s a very good Justice League Batman, we’ve never gotten to see him on his own. If he’d gotten a movie or two completely to himself, it’d be a different story. As for Superman, I’ve always been in a minority that liked Superman Returns a lot, minus the son plot. Routh as always felt the most like Superman to me, and when they brought him back in the Crisis, he was given my favorite live action Superman suit.
Solid video 👍🏻
Christopher Reeve is the best Superman, not Routh, but Routh is good in the role.
I take back what I said, because you said that they were your favorite adaptions of these characters. But I still believe that Christopher Reeve is the best Superman and I'm not alone.
They didn’t fail every single time, they succeeded every single time. She outshone him in every single one of his appearances.
While not live-action, Hal Jordan was adapted really well in "Green Lantern: The Animated Series."
The comics did not take inspiration from Gadot's costuming. That design originated in the New 52, in 2011.
The New 52 costume is pretty different than the movie one, with the traditional briefs instead of the battle skirt, granted in darker colots. The movie style costume came in with Rebirth.
I feel like Robert Pattinson's Batman is the perfect start for a new DCEU. To be honest, they should've started the DCEU with Batman either way since he's the money maker. But for real, if you get a good Batman in your DC universe, you have a connection to every other character. I can't wait to see what's next from the Pattinson universe.
Matt reeves won't allow that
Affleck is still the dcu batman it's good
There's a struggle with Batman adaptations that's shared with Spider-Man: you essentially hire for two roles, and most of the people who've done it have only done one all that well. Christian Bale is a good Bruce Wayne but a bad Batman. Pattinson's shown he can do a good Batman, and going by other stuff he's been in he could definitely be a good Bruce Wayne, they just haven't let him try yet.
The only Batman actors good at both, by the way: Adam West (for the type of Batman he is) and, of course, on the voice side Kevin Conroy. If we call Stephen Amell's Green Arrow an honorary Batman since they basically wrote him as that a lot of the time, then he joins the club too.
the show gotham has a lot of great interpretations, especially jim gordon and joker
What would the DuckTales Universe look like in the mcu blueprint?
This is gonna be a hot take but…Heath Ledgers joker was awesome, but not necessarily a good adaptation of the Joker character
The joker in this movie is more into anarchy and based around “society is crazy” which don’t get me wrong is very in line with the Joker character but that’s not all he’s about. There’s more to him than that..
He also refutes the idea of being called crazy which isn’t like the joker at all. Joker in the comics knows he’s crazy and relishes in it. He loves how crazy he is, so to hear joker in TDK deny being crazy is kinda wrong.
Plus you have the liberties with the face paint and the scars, and while comedy is a subjective thing. This version of the Joker isn’t all too funny. Yes there’s some stuff like the magic trick, and spray painting (s)laughter on his truck, as well as the irony of lighting a fire truck on fire. But for the most part this joker isn’t too humorous.
Heath Ledger is still my favorite actor to portray the character in live-action (Mark Hamill is my favorite overall). But that doesn’t mean he is “the definitive and accurate portrayal”
There's a Pennyworth tv show and it's a good adaptation
It has the best adaption of Alfred Pennyworth ever.
Batfleck Hands down. Love the Dark Knight version too, but none of these other Bats can throw down with Batfleck
Bold pick on Tyler too. I think Reeve is iconic and people today like Henry but I think Tyler has emerged as a more complete Superman in personality even if not in looks. But Reeve is Reeve
Christopher Reeve is still the best Superman, not Tyler Hoecholin, but Tyler is still great in the role.
Sope Dirisu as Batman
Michael B. Jordan as Superman
Kylie Bunbery as Wonder Woman
Michael Ward as Aquaman
John Boyega as Cyborg
John David Washington as Green Lantern (John Stewart)
Jenna Ortega as Green Lantern (Jessica Cruz)
Sasha Calle as Supergirl
Adria Arjona as Zartanna
Let’s put it this way. Amell’s version of Green Arrow is so good that the latest Robin Hood movie basically did a reverse-adaptation and used the concept for the original hooded archer character
amell version was more like a Green batman
@@inukaiser true, but it was definitely successful, at least the first several seasons. It’s why they decided to expand a single show into a whole franchise. Sadly, it’s now dead
The next version of Green Arrow that we see on screen should also have a better Arrow Family.
Hey man, I respect your decision on picking Tyler Hoechlin as Superman and I hope you don't take this the wrong way but picking Elizabeth Tulloch is crazy when Erica Durance is clearly the better Lois Lane overall. her character is so well put in Smallville and her relationship with Clark is so good. When it comes to the relationship factor Smallville's and SaL's are two ends of greatness, Smallville's representing an early relationship and SaL's relationship 15 years later. But I digress, Just saying that Erica Durance is the better Lois Lane in my opinion.
Your description of Gal as an actress literally is beside the point. The question is simply based on if her WW was a good adaptation. Whether or not she appears in better films doesn’t make a difference. The fact is that WW isn’t and hadn’t ever been taken seriously so even 1974, as bad as it is, would be adapting her comic book character. However, since that’s not what they were trying to portray, it isn’t seen that way. All that tells me is that that age of comics shouldn’t ever be adapted. For example, your Aquaman is correct, precisely bc they just straight up avoided the silly take on him. But his second film was not much better than WW84.
I agree 100,000 percent Tyler is the best adaptation of Superman we've seen yet.
Christopher Reeve is the best adaptation of Superman we’ve seen yet.
i hoped he would mention Alfred from the pennyworth series , that series is underrated
3:26 The Joker movie is great from what people have said I haven’t ever seen and I don’t think I will because I want a true Batman Joker!!!!!! 3:58 Heath’s Joker is my favorite!!!! Different take on the Joker but still as evil and devious as the books!!! Jack’s is great I loved it comic orginish accurate and I loved that Joker finally got a name “Jack Naiper” a name that has stuck around. Leto’s Joker I liked the different take on it and I liked Leto and the movie didn’t give him what he deserved considering the intervention of WB and Leto saying all of the scenes he filmed could add up to a movie
I agree with you. Robert Pattinson is my favourite Batman with Ben Affleck coming in second.
Ryan Reynolds’s Hal Jordan isn’t the only live action version of Hal Jordan.
It’s good that Stephen Amell’s Green Arrow is a better fighter.
Rob is the goat, his Robin would mostly be Dick Grayson In the sequel I think or something like the Dark victory comic.
Jeffery Wright is honestly my favorite on screen Gordon
Alfred is the goat. You can't make him bad.
I love to see Battinson have the evolution of the bat family. Wallis Day is young enough to be Batwoman for Battinson's continuity, Jackson Dunn (the actor who played Brightburn) would be young enough for Battinson's robin and we could use Leslie Grace's batgirl for Battinson's franchise since James Gordon in the franchise is black.
They shouldn’t use a black Batgirl, I’m not a racist, but they shouldn’t use a black Batgirl.
@@trevturp7687 I can understand that your not a racist. Neither am I. Than how come we got a black James Gordon in the Battinson franchise? Leslie Grace is not fully as black as him. And do you wish (as much as I do) Wallis Day can play Batwoman in Battinson's franchise where she can portrayed epically and fairly compared to how CW treated her?
I think they are scared to give Batman a Robin in the modern movies because of the 90s.
The Black Lion: "the one thing that stayed consistent, aside from Season 4 is that I never stopped liking Oliver Queen as a character."
Me: "Correction, the one thing that stayed consistent, aside from Season 3 is that I never stopped liking Oliver Queen as a character."
Opinions on DC iterations
Titans Dick Grayson is early days nightwing during the 1980s-2000s where he was angry with Bruce and was still going through his flaws, so I cannot say that he’s not accurate.
Lois Lane has been a toss with the past 3 live action versions of the character since S&L, smallville, and DCEU did her justice. I personally love Amy Adams’ portrayal of her determined reporter & sass.
With Batman I’m tossed with Ben Affleck with his iteration’s history and how his story was redemption and rediscovering his beliefs, Val Kilmer with EVERYTHING, and Robert Pattinson with everything that you pointed out.
Superman it’s difficult because Cavill was the early days version of the character’s story whose still trying to do more while the world criticizes him, Tyler brings the experienced yet optimistic version of the character and deals with being a parent, and Routh was always been a good Superman especially with crisis that showed his tired yet hopeful hero doing his best. I want a movie with these 3 iterations of Superman to bond and support each other like NWH, but for the majority of the movie.
I don't think tyler hoechlin being the best superman adaptation is going to be as hot of a take as you thought. The vast majority of people who love the core of the superman character love his portrayal.
A lot of people believe that Christopher Reeve is the best Superman adaptation and they are right, Christopher Reeve is the best Superman.
I'm probably in the minority but I really liked DCEU Flash, Miller as a person is a different story but he nailed the infectious Spider-Man-esque energy that I think is crucial to any Flash who's part of the Justice League (look at DCAU for reference)
He seemed to portray more of a Wally West type of Flash rather than Barry but he wouldn't be bad as Wally
@@-That_F_Guy you're probably right. Its just to me when they have these big superhero team ups I think it helps to have at least one character who realizes how absurd the situation actually is and Flash (Barry, Wally, Bart, etc.) is a better fit for that character type than any other main Leaguer (I don't really consider Shazam a main member)
@@RogueFilmsVFX oh yeah you're completely right about having someone who sees the reality of the situation I completely get your point
I think Patterson is The Batman but Bale is The Bruce Wayne
Kevin Conroy is the best Batman.
Elizabeth is great as Lois but Terri Hatcher is the best Lois to me mainly because they did the Lois Clark superman love triangle like the comics
Actually Kal El has been Superman for 20 years in Superman and Lois.
Amell's version of the character being a better fighter isn't a bad thing.
How did Lois dip in quality as a character in Season 2 of Superman and Lois?
Gotham Alfred would be high on my list
The next version of The Flash also needs to have a way better Flash Family than the one that he had in the Arrowverse along with a way better utilization of The Flash Family than the one in the Arrowverse, because those people at The CW undoubtedly did The Flash Family dirty.
Tyler is definitely the best Superman. I think it's because he has everything great you can find in other adaptations.
- Good fathers and son relationship
- Good Earth / Krypton identity struggle
- Good Lana relationship
- Good Martha relationship
- Good Lois Lane love relationship
- Good villains
- Good stories
The only thing missing are a good Jimmy and Kryptonite storyline.
Kryptonite exists in the show, but we aren’t shown it.
Perry White is also missing and other members of The Superfamily are also missing, for example, Supergirl, Superboy, and Strange Visitor.
@@trevturp7687 I meant a story about the different kryptonite, like black, red, yellow, blue and pink
Christopher Reeve is the best Superman, not Tyler Hoeclin, although Tyler Hoeclin is good in the role.
@@trevturp7687 Superboy isn't missing, only the clone Lex Clark version
They implied Perry was there in the first season
I mean the next version of Green Arrow on screen should have a better Arrow Family and a better utilization of The Arrow Family.
Wasn’t arrow supposed to be a Batman show and they were told like last minute while writing they couldn’t use him and then they panic picked green arrow
do this for Marvel as well please, both worst & best adaptations. Obviously it probs won't be too hard since most of the MCU characters only have 1 live action portrayal. But I'd still enjoy it
Actually most of the MCU characters have more than one live action portrayal.
@@trevturp7687 Oh, that's news to me
love Gal's Wonder woman
thanks
Gal Gadot is already a perfect live action interpretation of Wonder Woman.
Pls do a part 2 you could do Zachary Levi and Asher Angel as Shazam and Billy Batson Jack Dylan Grazer as Freddy Freeman is also really good Dawyne Johnson as Black Adam
At first I saw the idea of comparing Gustin Flash to Miller Flash as ridiculous, but I can’t help but compare the emotion in Barry’s visits to his dad in the tv show to the ones in JL. It’s hard to not admire the chemistry and performances in the show over the film. Then again the interactions in both versions of the movie were bogged down by lazy exposition.
We need a live action tim drake as robin
I mean Stephen Amell's version of Green Arrow is actually a good adaption of Green Arrow.
Ngl Stephen Amell looks so much like Chris Odonnell
You have to watch "Lois & Clark" the superman show from the 90s, that show's Lois Lane & Jimmy Olsen are the best live action adaptations. Teri Hatcher was a great Lois
John Shea was a fantastic lex Luthor
shit, is there any good Jimmy Olson's? Even older appearances he does like nothing
yeah for me batwoman isn't that good..
5:43 Stephen Amell’s Green Arrow was always supposed to be the arrowverse’s Batman bc for whatever reason they don’t have the rights for Batman or any of his characters except his cousin Batwomen apparently, and the show Gotham somewhat had the rights to do certain things with Bruce Wayne and the his characters
8:13 and Grant Gustin was ALWAYS A BETTER actor than Ezra Miller
But the Arrowverse has an adaptation of Batman already though.
@@trevturp7687 Bruce Wayne is mentioned by Oliver Queen and mostly team but also some members of team flash, yes he’s “in” the arrowverse but legally they can’t actually use him
A future version of The Flash (Barry Allen) should have a much better Flash Family and a much better utilization of The Flash Family.
12:02 Both of them are better than the boring DCEU Amy Adams Lois.
big miss not including gotham in any of the picks
Brenton Is a great nightwing I loved him
Wow! No mention of Dean Cain or Teri Hatcher from Lois & Clark: The New Adventures of Superman?? They had the best Superman, Lois, Jimmy, & Lex Luthor imo
Wonder Woman music was good.
Grant Gustin doesn’t have any competition.