imagine working at a bank and someone comes in with a negative balance in their account and explains that it’s because they tried paying for a brony dating site
Yeah I've seen similar things many times. Sometimes they were so embarrassed about whatever site/purchase it happened to be that when I would suggest initiating the dispute process they would just flat-out refuse, even if they got scammed for $500+.
I used to be involved in the fandom and honestly it wasn't unheard of. I remember several popular members of the community meeting their SO through the show and some ended up marrying. iirc two of them even held an open invite wedding to their fans as thanks for bringing them together. Cute stuff. Some guy proposed to his girlfriend at a panel and got a standing ovation from a room full of bronies.
As a trans myself, lol, the "I am seeking: man, woman, trans" is so ridiculously funny to me. Like, "I am seeking one trans, please. Doesn't matter what kind, just one trans, thank you very much."
Fellow trans person here! Yeah, I found it really funny too. It kinda shows you that they don't see trans people as valid, just a kink. Really frustrating and demeaning tbh.
She sounds like she's trying to voice act an over-the-top cartoon Southern Belle while also being absolutely terrified for her life and trembling. I've never heard anything like that before in my life.
These scams are insane, could you imagine telling someone from the 80's that in the future we won't have flying cars or robots that clean your house but rather ppl getting scammed by dating sites for fans of a pony show.
Just took a gender law and policy class and I actually know about that online sex trafficking law (FOSTA) and the reality is that the furry site shutting down doesn't necessarily mean that anything bad was going on there. They possibly just shut down for the same reason craigslist personals did, which was that the law now made website liable for what was posted there involving sex trafficking. Sounds like a good thing but in reality it ends up being bad for everyone involved. What happened was that lots of websites (or features) shut down out of an abundance of caution to not get sued and it made life for sex workers a lot harder. Instead of being to use the internet to find clients, most places to do that shut down and many sex workers had to go back on the streets or use pimps again to find clients, which makes their work a lot less safe. And then on the sex trafficking side it's actually become way harder to find people being trafficked because that stuff has been pushed deeper underground. Before, law enforcement was able to go through websites and locate people being trafficked but after this law it's been was harder to find them. This is truly a bad law for everyone and if the opportunity arises people should support repealing it.
was hoping someone would say this! understandable that izzy hasn't heard because she's not american but fosta has been nothing but a nightmare for queer people and sex workers
@@johnsgoodboy sex workers are being exploited, so fosta is good. sex workers should get a new job. also sex is created for a husband and wife, not for random people to have sex and get paid then never see eachother again and just fuck a new person everytime.
The fat 40 y/o cis male loser bronies have a better chance of finding a soulmate at hot topic or spencers than a scam brony "dating" site. Probably not a cute young adult but at least someone out there is into that shit.
True. I’m a woman who used to be a MLP fan, and if that site existed during the height of my fascination with the show I’m pretty sure I would have avoided it
The voiceover for the ad sounds like the mum of the founder got roped in to his hobby that she supports even though it's obscure because she loves him and while she wishes he would move out of the basement is totally co-dependent and enabling his NEET life.
Look, I know everybody’s heard horror stories of groups of fans doing immoral, “cringe”, and sometimes illegal things, or just starting civil wars or whatever, but these fans are always either individuals or small organized cliques of radicals that don’t represent the whole fandom. Every time such a story surfaces, the actions of the vocal minority are condemned by the 99% of good fans. (And by the way, arguing doesn’t make a fandom toxic. Arguing is healthy if handled well. If it isn’t handled well and emotions are taken too far, refer back to what I said about radical fans). Every fandom has a vocal minority, even if they don’t make headlines. You’re more likely to hear such stories from bigger communities, but the ratio of “crazy” to “normal” is the same across fandoms as per a statistical phenomenon called the Law of Large Numbers. People hate fandoms all the time, even though they most likely engage in fandoms themselves. Liking something makes you part of that fandom. And before you push up your anime glasses and tell me that “actually, fandom is short for ‘fanatic domain’ and I am a NORMAL fan, not a crazy fanatic”, may I remind you that denotation does not equal connotation, so while “fanatic” brings to mind images of crazy devotion, it’s just the long word for “fan”. Fan is short for fanatic (as per Oxford Dictionary, or Merriam-Webster, I don’t recall), like how rap is an acronym for “rhythm and poetry” but has become its own word. Also, a domain is just a group in the broadest possible sense, accurately capturing how large and diverse fandoms are. Therefore, a fandom is just all the fans of a specific thing. Your level of engagement in a fandom doesn’t determine how much of a fan you are. Fanartists depend on casuals who view their art, for instance. The masses are just as important as the creators. By hating fandoms, you’re also hating on people who have genuinely been helped by finding a sense of community by connecting with like-minded people. Fandoms don’t ruin things for you if you find the right people in said fandom to interact with. With bigger fandoms especially, it’s not hard. I get that negativity is stronger than positivity, but you’ve got to fight that internal conflict for your own good. It’s your fault that vocal minorities of weird fans are never recognized as such, and are instead chalked up to the whole group.
@@diamondminer5459 Absolutely I was friends with people from the brony fandom for years We grew apart as we grew up, I realized one of them was just weird and I couldn't take him seriously anymore Than this year after I came out as trans, I found out one who I considered one of my closest friends was a transphobic fuck and basically treated me like shit after I came out. So yeah, watch who you're friends with
*me from the deep southern Georgia* My rage is the most big thing right now...and it sends red flags with it but it being fake....I'm just upset on this..
the furrymate promo at 10:56 is so funny to me. Like the execs sat there and asked themselves 'what attire screams 'furry' to me?' and for some reason the answer was dollar store bunny ears
@@ThatOneGuy0006 I think those are three types of people, people who do petplay, weebs, and furries, all of which are apparently very different but look so alike that it's not surprising to get them all mixed up
I want a sans fangirl dating site where two sans fangirls can have a wedding where they get married, but they have it where they have a giant sans plush they dress in a suit that they both pretend to marry as well. I wouldn't be on it, I just want this to happen.
Always feel like it's important to state that like, *most* hookup sites closed down after FOSTA/SESTA passed. It's the same reason Craigslist shut down it's personals section. It's not indicative of them being traffickers, the laws made websites that hosted material related to sex trafficking criminally liable for it on the same level as an intentional collaborator, regardless of the sites policies, moderation, or willingness to help law enforcement with discovered instances of sex trafficking. It also made no distinction between trafficking and consensual sex work, and the net result of it has only driven sex trafficking to harder to find places and made sex work more dangerous for sex workers.
@@fruitygarlic3601 What happens if you never had that happen? Do I cease to exist or do I suddenly age by like 20 more years so that I’m in the same generation as my mom-
So this got thrown into my recommended videos, and I'd just like to add that a long time ago, back in 2014, someone affiliated with Bronymate sent me an email asking if I would like to do a "sponsor segment" for the website on one of my reviews. I was 13 at the time they sent me that email.
Pretty scummy of them to exploit a large group of people that were probably feeling very lonely... I don't want to generalise and say all adult MLP fans were the socially awkward type, but I've seen quite a lot of those people. I hope they're happy nowadays.
Well I can tell you I've been with my current partner for over 5 years and we met through the fandom. We're both autistic and what I would describe as socially awkward, but the fandom actually gave us a starting point to kick off of. A lot of my friends have similar stories as well ^^
lmao my husband and I wanted to troll on this site so bad but the second I had to pay to read my messages we abandoned the whole operation. ah, memories.
@@potatoleeksoup_ I wouldn’t consider what’s going on to be drama, if you do fair enough. I wasn’t trying to argue or anything. I just reeaaally doubted that you or anyone would have screamed out loud at what it said
3:56 not to mention how weird the pairing is. Derpy and Princess Luna was not something I ever expected to see, but I guess they made a random couple that nobody would rationally pair up to prevent ship wars or something
my guess was they paired them because they were two of the most popular characters at the time and they wanted to get as many people as possible to sign up for their site? but that's just my theory
Years ago I did MLP cosplays and attended ponycons as a guest and panelist. From time to time my friends and I were told our photos were being used on this site which led to us trying and failing to stop it from happening. At the beginning of 2020 I was reached out to on Instagram from the actual Bronymate account asking if they could use my photos, even offering to pay me for them until I shut them down with some choice words and they blocked me. This whole site was wild and so awkward to deal with as someone whose photos were consistently used. Had to turn down a handful of guys in my DMs and explain to them that they were catfished between 2015 and 2019.
Site: "Welcome to the Dating Site. We got Christian people, gluten-free people, rich people-" Person: "What the fuck is gluten? Take that shit out." Site: "They're gluten-free." Person: "I don't care if it's free!"
Honestly I have never heard a single person refer to themselves as a pegasister I've only seen people say that's what there called but every girl I know just calls themselves a brony
@Most-sane-deltarune-fan It doesn't seem strange at all to me. I use bro and man in my daily vocabulary. Like some gay guys use sister or girl. It's just words.
Ah yes, scamming desperate people out of their money, the only real "easy way to make money quick" =/ Like, yeah, bronies can be "cringe" (and what fandom doesn't have its fair share of those cases) but I still think there's a line between making fun of people and defrauding them. I mean, for a comparative example, it's the difference between Tumblr cringe compilations and dashcon. Both not the best humanity has to offer, but I think we can agree that one is worse than the other.
Look, I know everybody’s heard horror stories of groups of fans doing immoral, “cringe”, and sometimes illegal things, or just starting civil wars or whatever, but these fans are always either individuals or small organized cliques of radicals that don’t represent the whole fandom. Every time such a story surfaces, the actions of the vocal minority are condemned by the 99% of good fans. (And by the way, arguing doesn’t make a fandom toxic. Arguing is healthy if handled well. If it isn’t handled well and emotions are taken too far, refer back to what I said about radical fans). Every fandom has a vocal minority, even if they don’t make headlines. You’re more likely to hear such stories from bigger communities, but the ratio of “crazy” to “normal” is the same across fandoms as per a statistical phenomenon called the Law of Large Numbers. People hate fandoms all the time, even though they most likely engage in fandoms themselves. Liking something makes you part of that fandom. And before you push up your anime glasses and tell me that “actually, fandom is short for ‘fanatic domain’ and I am a NORMAL fan, not a crazy fanatic”, may I remind you that denotation does not equal connotation, so while “fanatic” brings to mind images of crazy devotion, it’s just the long word for “fan”. Fan is short for fanatic (as per Oxford Dictionary, or Merriam-Webster, I don’t recall), like how rap is an acronym for “rhythm and poetry” but has become its own word. Also, a domain is just a group in the broadest possible sense, accurately capturing how large and diverse fandoms are. Therefore, a fandom is just all the fans of a specific thing. Your level of engagement in a fandom doesn’t determine how much of a fan you are. Fanartists depend on casuals who view their art, for instance. The masses are just as important as the creators. By hating fandoms, you’re also hating on people who have genuinely been helped by finding a sense of community by connecting with like-minded people. Fandoms don’t ruin things for you if you find the right people in said fandom to interact with. With bigger fandoms especially, it’s not hard. I get that negativity is stronger than positivity, but you’ve got to fight that internal conflict for your own good. It’s your fault that vocal minorities of weird fans are never recognized as such, and are instead chalked up to the whole group.
Much of the time, the dating portion of a fandom scares me the most, especially since you have no idea who's on the other end. Often times it leads to disaster.
I keep getting spam e-mails from Bronymate. It's really irritating. I joined about 5 years ago, made a profile, then never went on again. Why the heck is its email system still operational?
Is there any version of the word "bronymate" that doesn't bring up thoughts of them wanting to kiss horses? HorseHounds? BarnBoys? GallopGuys? NaughtyNeighbors? Those guys really can't win lol
"brony dating site" automatically confuses me bc i need specific details. are you actually trying to get a date with another person w common interests? are you trying to find someone who'll have their pony oc/fursona/ponysona(?) "date" your pony oc/fursona/whatever? are you trying to date someone's ponysona? are you trying to roleplay? what is it?? what is the truth
Theres always something so scummy about preying on people who might be suffering from extreme loneliness just because of how vulnerable people can be mentally when they feel so lonely.
For most of the video. I was like, "BronyMate? Why does that sound so familiar?" Then you mentioned FurryMate, and I was like, "That's why." I even saw that super low quality ad for furrymate literally just the other day. Always screamed "scam" to me. And well... Apparently that's exactly the case.
As someone who's trans myself, seeing "I am seeking: man, woman, trans" is so funny, like imagine minding your own business and someone comes up to you and says "I am looking for a trans. Just one trans, please."
This whole bronymate situation reminds me of the furry dating website controversy. In fact they sound exactly the same, can’t read messages unless you pay a certain amount of money, most messages just being from bots, terrible advertising, and overall just being very scummy. I am heavily convinced that they are both made by the same people as that they just put on some different photos a different background and a different name and called it a day. Also the whole man woman trans thing offends me deeply. Edit: I just saw that at 10:47 that they were heavily suspected for making the website that I was describing. I really am a dumb ass or raven from that so raven that’s your decision to make.
If I had a nickle for every time there's been a scam based around bronies dating things, I'd have two nickles, which isn't a lot but it's strange that it happened two times.
7:43 Is it really that hard to use “This person does not exist” generator? It would probably be a bit harder to prove that it’s a bot as long as the same stuff isn’t written in everything and the images are from other people
just for the record, the anti sex trafficking act in the States shut down a lot of things to do with porn and prostitution. it wasn't really about trafficking that's just the shield for a conservative anti sex moral crusade.
I’ve seen Furry Mate advertised quite a lot on UA-cam as at one point I was regularly getting the Furry Mate introduction ad on UA-cam videos I was watching.
this, and also anti-lgbt since places like craigslist personals and such had pretty significant lgbt populations. the sex-trafficing narrative was just a smoke-screen for moral policing.
Really frustrating to see a site shutting down because of it being treated as some sort of confession when in reality it just made it way harder to be any sort of sex-related site
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I wanted to give more information on SESTA/FOSTA mentioned at 11:45 , Pounced wasn't shut down for committing illegal actions, but was a victim of a blanket bill that did almost nothing about sex trafficking but instead was a gross violation of free speech, which people have been trying to repeal for years now! Even Bernie Sanders signed the bill as it was basically forced upon politicians where if you didn't sign it, you would be seen as "supporting sex trafficking" when that clearly wasn't the case. SESTA/FOSTA, in a nutshell, was a bill passed with the intention of cutting down on Sex Trafficking, but a glaring problem was how it went about it, with of the main points being that it would hold site owners FULLY accountable and able to be charged if acts of sex trafficking were found to be engaged in on the site in any way. If a couple hooked up on a dating site and cash was exchanged, the website owners could be held accountable and imprisoned/fined as if they were enabling it. This bill was the sole reason that tumblr banned NSFW content on their site, as the terms of it were so vague that they just didn't want to deal with the possible repercussions that it would cause. This is also why sex workers on Twitter/instagram doing strictly online content constantly face scrutiny by the platforms of their choice, getting accounts banned left and right even thought they didn't violate any ToS. Countless sites like Pounced were forced to shut down as they couldn't afford the legal trouble that continuing operation would case. There's way more to this than I'm letting on, but it'd be greatly appreciated if you could research a bit more and do a follow up on this point.
@@aaronfletcher8745 Well, I haven't heard of any major scandal for a while. Thou yes, the Brony community still exists. Not nearly as big as at the peak of its popularity, but it is still present. :)
@@aaronfletcher8745 was there any *actual* proof about the shooter being a brony? Just sounds like something the mainstream media came up with to further call bronies "nazis"
@@gavichealsomething2169 The facebook page that he supposedly had seemed to indicate that he was a brony, albeit one that was beyond fanatical. Of course, it really didn't have much to do with the crime, but the media decided to make it out to be a major factor.
My guess as to why this happens a lot to niche fandoms is the idea "Oh these idiots are desperate, they'll do anything". And while some might, more and more won't. While fandom culture is still niche, it's also more mainstream than ever. Gone are the days of fandom culture only existing of desperate nerds in mom's basement (not that some don't remain). So with more average people engaging in fandom, the desperate need for contact lessens because they can go to meet-ups and conventions. I think that's why dating scams are failing more nowadays. Or well, they were until 2020 due to all of the isolation.
I'm gonna be honest- as a part of the teen/adult side of the mlp community (Specifically the art community), some of the things people here do are embarrassing af. I promise it's not all bad; the stupid, gross, and awful people are just a LOT louder than the rest of the community.
@@ryebread908 Yeah exactly! I'm pretty supportive of the anthro community, and am part of it but it's not my main interest. Most of the community is extremely welcoming and kind, I've never even met a zoophile gross person yet. Sucks that outsiders only see the bad side. I think I've been told in Insta comments that my opinion doesn't matter because I draw ponies 💀💀💀
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imagine working at a bank and someone comes in with a negative balance in their account and explains that it’s because they tried paying for a brony dating site
I’d like to think that it happens often lmao
oh they sometimes have much more embarrassing reasons than that, trust me.
And not only that they got scammed… but that they have three active full accounts.
Yeah I've seen similar things many times. Sometimes they were so embarrassed about whatever site/purchase it happened to be that when I would suggest initiating the dispute process they would just flat-out refuse, even if they got scammed for $500+.
I work for a bank and have seen weirder than that
Bro imagine marrying someone and possibly having kids with them thanks to the magic of friendship
'hey dad, how did you meet Mom' 'well son, I'll tell you when you get older'
I used to be involved in the fandom and honestly it wasn't unheard of. I remember several popular members of the community meeting their SO through the show and some ended up marrying. iirc two of them even held an open invite wedding to their fans as thanks for bringing them together. Cute stuff. Some guy proposed to his girlfriend at a panel and got a standing ovation from a room full of bronies.
Pretty sure that happened ngl
@@blackrosesthorn9451 That’s pretty wholesome actually
@@x_kittrix man it was. I used to watch their channels when the show was still running and when he proposed, everyone was just so happy for them 😊
“Someone special is waiting to chat with you, Someone REAL special” sounded so threatening and I don’t know why.
I know, It's...just...threatening......
no bc the “AUGHEHE”
4:50
You know why, it’s just scary to acknowledge it.
I was thinking “I’M SPECIAL! DEDEDE! I WEAR A HELMET AND I DONT EVEN PLAY FOOTBALL!”
As a trans myself, lol, the "I am seeking: man, woman, trans" is so ridiculously funny to me. Like, "I am seeking one trans, please. Doesn't matter what kind, just one trans, thank you very much."
I can see them putting a "White" "Black" and "Mixed" option near the male, female and trans
"I'll have a trans please"
"ma'am this is a wendys"
Fellow trans person here! Yeah, I found it really funny too. It kinda shows you that they don't see trans people as valid, just a kink. Really frustrating and demeaning tbh.
@@talyngray "Excuse me!! He asked for one trans."
Hello welcome to chili's what can I get you?
A man woman trans please.
Now I’m just imagine the cringey stuff in they bios involving horses like “just a stallion looking for his mare” and other things
I kid you not, that sort of bio exists on regular dating sites, usually by someone holding a fish in the pfp
@@thisisavivistanaccount7866 Its always the fish men!! Why is it always the fishing guys???
@@Mmax98406
Man, I feel bad for the fishes
@@Orchidlettux Those poor fish have to be in a mans tinder bio
“Just a file looking for the zoo”
My dad once said he was a brony in some attempt to seem 'hip with the kids'. He didn't actually know what it meant though.
Nice.
That’s kinda cute
He knew what it meant
Your ridicule made him pretend he didn’t
Lol did you tell him what it meant?
Online or IRL?
Its important to note that this "furry mate" website has the same "male, female, trans" setup that the bronymate site does lol.
It's the funniest shit
Its funny in a way, but also very frustrating and offensive
@@jasonellis4330 nah
@@DagazsYT It is offensive, but it's also kinda funny to see.
Source: a trans woman
(The fourth option is cheese grater)
@@someoninte456 ywnbaw
The woman voicing the Bronymate trailer sounds like she's being held at gunpoint and i'm concerned, did she make it out alright?
Those yehaws where 100% a cry for help...🤠
The woman was given the script after saying yes to the job and wished to be dead from word 1
i choose to believe she did.
She sounds like she's trying to voice act an over-the-top cartoon Southern Belle while also being absolutely terrified for her life and trembling. I've never heard anything like that before in my life.
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Imagine going bankrupt and having to explain to the bank it's because of a brony dating site 💀
That would’ve been so embarrassing for him lmao
Izzzy: *dresses like an avante-garde art installation*
Izzzy: "Let's kindly discuss a topic involving My Little Pony again."
avant-garde
That's why we like them
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Honestly, I don't mind.
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These scams are insane, could you imagine telling someone from the 80's that in the future we won't have flying cars or robots that clean your house but rather ppl getting scammed by dating sites for fans of a pony show.
we kinda do have robots that clean houses
@@pixel-8d roombas
And cats ride them!
@@Jiffy-Liffy7714 i see what you did there
The 80s wasn't that long ago, lol wth
@@gregmcgregginton574 has been 40 years so it's kinda been
Imagine finding out your parents met on a brony site
Uhm
“Alright, time to tell you about the bird and the bees. We call it alicorns and Pegasuses.”
guess thats why they broke up
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as the garfield army grows… i’m scared it will take over the background tapestry
I'm sorry tapestry
*consume*
soon, the tapestry will become garfields lasagna
@@bepisthescienceman4202 I was so hungry
@@diskdem0n he’s gotta have a good meal
The voice acting in the trailer for the site sounds like the VA was held at like gunpoint to do it.
it sounds like a bit, like some eleborate joke
@@xemiii it also sounds like they recorded it as a joke. Just for shits and giggles but they accepted it anyways
YEEHAW
She sounds like someone who is trying to appeal to somebody with a cowgirl/ southern girl fetish, but doesn't really know what she's doing.
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Just took a gender law and policy class and I actually know about that online sex trafficking law (FOSTA) and the reality is that the furry site shutting down doesn't necessarily mean that anything bad was going on there. They possibly just shut down for the same reason craigslist personals did, which was that the law now made website liable for what was posted there involving sex trafficking. Sounds like a good thing but in reality it ends up being bad for everyone involved. What happened was that lots of websites (or features) shut down out of an abundance of caution to not get sued and it made life for sex workers a lot harder. Instead of being to use the internet to find clients, most places to do that shut down and many sex workers had to go back on the streets or use pimps again to find clients, which makes their work a lot less safe. And then on the sex trafficking side it's actually become way harder to find people being trafficked because that stuff has been pushed deeper underground. Before, law enforcement was able to go through websites and locate people being trafficked but after this law it's been was harder to find them. This is truly a bad law for everyone and if the opportunity arises people should support repealing it.
was hoping someone would say this! understandable that izzy hasn't heard because she's not american but fosta has been nothing but a nightmare for queer people and sex workers
pretty much
any time some bill has a moral statement it it's title it's trying to do something messed up
@@johnsgoodboy sex workers are being exploited, so fosta is good. sex workers should get a new job. also sex is created for a husband and wife, not for random people to have sex and get paid then never see eachother again and just fuck a new person everytime.
Yeppppppppp
I like how that brony included that the bots were all above 7s, like they just knew there's no way these girls can be attractive AND be bronies
@@papaya216 Mean but a lot of times bots use sexy girls as pictures. Same with catfishers.
That part made me die lmao
Yeah. I guess there are some attractive male and female Bronies out there. But let's face it, those are mostly taken. :'D
@@najpotenicewolf934 bots*
Or be above the age of 14.
I can imagine crusty 30 year olds on the site hoping to match with a cute girl but they end up matching with each other
"you lied your not a 19 year old girl your just another cr33py 40 year old dude"
"don't feel bad this is the 40th time this happened"
The fat 40 y/o cis male loser bronies have a better chance of finding a soulmate at hot topic or spencers than a scam brony "dating" site. Probably not a cute young adult but at least someone out there is into that shit.
@Vvrai cis, straight men*
True. I’m a woman who used to be a MLP fan, and if that site existed during the height of my fascination with the show I’m pretty sure I would have avoided it
@@peachiequeen3897 Like yeah, most of us Pegasisters/female Bronies would rather stay away from dating sites like this. xD
The voiceover for the ad sounds like the mum of the founder got roped in to his hobby that she supports even though it's obscure because she loves him and while she wishes he would move out of the basement is totally co-dependent and enabling his NEET life.
That's so specific holy shit
you didn't have to attack me like that
That is so specific but 100% accurate
You’re telling me that there’s not one but TWO brony dating site scams?
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@@old.skeleton6944 Gladly.
@@old.skeleton6944 yes
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@@old.skeleton6944 lmao
I'm not a brony, but this brony drama is RIPE
It's always ripe -w-
same w furries, im a little bit of a furry myself but i mad respect the people who stay in the fandom through all the BULLSHIT lmao
Look, I know everybody’s heard horror stories of groups of fans doing immoral, “cringe”, and sometimes illegal things, or just starting civil wars or whatever, but these fans are always either individuals or small organized cliques of radicals that don’t represent the whole fandom. Every time such a story surfaces, the actions of the vocal minority are condemned by the 99% of good fans. (And by the way, arguing doesn’t make a fandom toxic. Arguing is healthy if handled well. If it isn’t handled well and emotions are taken too far, refer back to what I said about radical fans). Every fandom has a vocal minority, even if they don’t make headlines. You’re more likely to hear such stories from bigger communities, but the ratio of “crazy” to “normal” is the same across fandoms as per a statistical phenomenon called the Law of Large Numbers. People hate fandoms all the time, even though they most likely engage in fandoms themselves. Liking something makes you part of that fandom. And before you push up your anime glasses and tell me that “actually, fandom is short for ‘fanatic domain’ and I am a NORMAL fan, not a crazy fanatic”, may I remind you that denotation does not equal connotation, so while “fanatic” brings to mind images of crazy devotion, it’s just the long word for “fan”. Fan is short for fanatic (as per Oxford Dictionary, or Merriam-Webster, I don’t recall), like how rap is an acronym for “rhythm and poetry” but has become its own word. Also, a domain is just a group in the broadest possible sense, accurately capturing how large and diverse fandoms are. Therefore, a fandom is just all the fans of a specific thing. Your level of engagement in a fandom doesn’t determine how much of a fan you are. Fanartists depend on casuals who view their art, for instance. The masses are just as important as the creators. By hating fandoms, you’re also hating on people who have genuinely been helped by finding a sense of community by connecting with like-minded people. Fandoms don’t ruin things for you if you find the right people in said fandom to interact with. With bigger fandoms especially, it’s not hard. I get that negativity is stronger than positivity, but you’ve got to fight that internal conflict for your own good. It’s your fault that vocal minorities of weird fans are never recognized as such, and are instead chalked up to the whole group.
@@diamondminer5459 Absolutely
I was friends with people from the brony fandom for years
We grew apart as we grew up, I realized one of them was just weird and I couldn't take him seriously anymore
Than this year after I came out as trans, I found out one who I considered one of my closest friends was a transphobic fuck and basically treated me like shit after I came out. So yeah, watch who you're friends with
*TEA, SIS, T E A*
I love how you never look down to a fandom
Izzy is a fan of MLP anyway. IDK If she's a furry though but it wouldn't surprise me
@@noaht2005 i don’t think I knew back then
"Christians, Mormons, clowns - you know, all the mayor religious groups."
Love it.
quote of the century lmao
I'm a devote clown
Don’t forget the farmers
I very nearly spit out my lunch when I heard that.
I'm an ex-Mormon.
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That video ad was hilarious, it sounded like a Jenny Nicholson spoof
Omg it did…
I literally did a double take like “….is that Jenny Nicholson??”
" Y E E H A W "
5:26 "What are you waitin for? Find your bron-ee mate! Hyuck hyuck!
*YEEHAW*
That BronyMate trailer has major “local used car dealership” vibes
ARE YOU LOOKIN FOR A HONDA CIVIC FOR CHEAP, LIL DUMPLIN? WELL COME ON DOWN TO BRONYMATES USED CARS!! AHHA YEAAHAW!!
Yep 4:53
The fake southern accent in the ad makes me fly into a rage
There are few things that function as a real-life mass aggro spell. This is one of them.
*me from the deep southern Georgia*
My rage is the most big thing right now...and it sends red flags with it but it being fake....I'm just upset on this..
The excessive yeehaws and really bad drawl pushed me past my physical limit and I have never felt such a violent bloodlust.
Made me cringe, I never say yeehaw
Huhuuhhu *Y E E* H A W
Your voice is calming I was prepared for a normal loud voice UA-camr but I feel really relaxed watching your video
5:11 the voice actor sounds like they’re on the verge of tears
to be honest, I would be too 💀
It sounds like they’re trying to do an impression of Applejack while crying
@@Mooms eeyup
it sound like they regret everything
It seems like she’s being held at gunpoint
Izzzyzzz out here rockin' a look like she's the niece of your Mentor in E.Y.E.: Divine Cybermancy. We're all trapped in our Cycles of Lasagna.
My legs are ok
Bruh. I was thinking the same thing. Next thing you know, she has psionic powers to hack people's computer for subscription. Lol
you gain brouzouf
You gain brouzouf
you gain brouzouf
I love that you talk about weird stuff in the fandom without shitting on the fandom itself
I can't get over the commercial. The actress mispronounced "brony" and nobody was like "let's have her do a second take"
What if that was the second take? Or even third take? That’s what deeply upsets me.
"Small, orange and loves lasagne."
Izzzyzzz dating an Italian Oompa-Loompa confirmed.
underrated comment.
Don’t do Garfield like that😭
Lonely hearts ads are why I was born! My dad paid for a section in a column and my mom was the first woman to answer it.
Cool!
the furrymate promo at 10:56 is so funny to me. Like the execs sat there and asked themselves 'what attire screams 'furry' to me?' and for some reason the answer was dollar store bunny ears
Normies not knowing the difference between furries and animal ear fetishists again.
@@ThatOneGuy0006 I think those are three types of people, people who do petplay, weebs, and furries, all of which are apparently very different but look so alike that it's not surprising to get them all mixed up
@@worstusernameintheworld9871 weebs lol arent they just obsessed with japanese culture?
@@valletas They are also obsessed with cat girls to tbf
@@Qxestionable Don't they just like anime?
I want a sans fangirl dating site where two sans fangirls can have a wedding where they get married, but they have it where they have a giant sans plush they dress in a suit that they both pretend to marry as well. I wouldn't be on it, I just want this to happen.
what
@@GeneralLDS I said what I meant
If you are asking for explanation, I don't have one lol
Interesting
Oh my god I want to see that out of morbid curiosity
You know what? I want this to happen to--love deserves to win
Always feel like it's important to state that like, *most* hookup sites closed down after FOSTA/SESTA passed. It's the same reason Craigslist shut down it's personals section. It's not indicative of them being traffickers, the laws made websites that hosted material related to sex trafficking criminally liable for it on the same level as an intentional collaborator, regardless of the sites policies, moderation, or willingness to help law enforcement with discovered instances of sex trafficking. It also made no distinction between trafficking and consensual sex work, and the net result of it has only driven sex trafficking to harder to find places and made sex work more dangerous for sex workers.
Very informative and important info, this should have more attention.
why would they call it bronymate if it’s not a MLM dating site… wouldn’t you call it ponymate????
Makes sense
Brony is technically a gender neutral term
@@Requiemreverie was this how i got turned transmasc? /jk
Why ppl use MLM or WLW instead gay or lesbian/Saphic??/Gen
@@atanaZion probably because gay can be used for lesbians and WLW is shorter than lesbian/sapphic, idk that's my best guess though
The applejack (?) impersonater sounds like they have a gun trained to their head while they talk
Ah HA! I knew she was channeling Applejack!
they keep overusing the yeehaw too 😭
Haven't cringe so hard in a long time lmao
they sound so panicky lmao
i was so upset after every yeehaw
"Seeking man, woman, trans" is like the even dumber version of those forms that are like, "What gender are you? Boy, Girl, Transgirl or Transboy?"
i dunno i feel like “woman man non-binary” would be better because, well, trans men are men and trans women are woman
@@CultoftheSpiral yeah, I'm making fun of the categorization. "*even* dumber"
Took me a minute to process this lmao
like “hey i’m trans” “oh cool what are your pronouns?” “trans/gender” lmao that’s how dumb it sounds
Why can't none of your business ever be an option on these kinds of sites?
I remember i had a Bronymate account !
...back when i was like 12.
Slightly older but same, I remember filling it out lmao
And Right there's the issue with older fans in a younger fandom, regardless of it being mlp
@@fruitygarlic3601 What happens if you never had that happen?
Do I cease to exist or do I suddenly age by like 20 more years so that I’m in the same generation as my mom-
Hopefully nothing bad happened to you back then.
oh my god-
@@fruitygarlic3601 oh my god i- 😭
So this got thrown into my recommended videos, and I'd just like to add that a long time ago, back in 2014, someone affiliated with Bronymate sent me an email asking if I would like to do a "sponsor segment" for the website on one of my reviews. I was 13 at the time they sent me that email.
Pretty scummy of them to exploit a large group of people that were probably feeling very lonely... I don't want to generalise and say all adult MLP fans were the socially awkward type, but I've seen quite a lot of those people. I hope they're happy nowadays.
I'm not...
@@oldreaddy3341 *hugs*
Well I can tell you I've been with my current partner for over 5 years and we met through the fandom. We're both autistic and what I would describe as socially awkward, but the fandom actually gave us a starting point to kick off of.
A lot of my friends have similar stories as well ^^
@@a2rhombus2 That's pretty interesting, then!
Izzzy has some very *pointed* thoughts on this scam site.
Very nice one. You get one of those silver stars on their head.
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I swear that their looks get more and more detailed. I living for it.
Ba dum tss
Can we get a site to find friends, like a dating site but just for friendship? As an Aromantic person I would greatly appreciate a site like that
Not even aroace but that sounds very nice, I hope someone does it
I agree we need one of those as someone on the aromantic and asexual spectrum :)
It's called social media
You can just use dating apps for this
There’s lots of apps like that but they usually get ruined by pedos
"They were all above seven then it comes to looks". I can see why you would have to resort to brony date site, dude.
That crown Izzy is wearing could be a deadly way to eat kababs
lmao my husband and I wanted to troll on this site so bad but the second I had to pay to read my messages we abandoned the whole operation. ah, memories.
literally the second i saw the "seeking a: man, woman, trans" i screamed out loud what a red fucking flag
no chance you screamed out loud
@@7bracket7 i mean it's not like i can prove to you i did
@@potatoleeksoup_ I was watching you
@@7bracket7 dude don't you have better things to do than get in drama in the youtube comments section
@@potatoleeksoup_ I wouldn’t consider what’s going on to be drama, if you do fair enough. I wasn’t trying to argue or anything. I just reeaaally doubted that you or anyone would have screamed out loud at what it said
The thing on her head makes her look like a biblically accurate angel and I'm here for it
All I can see is the statue of Izzerty
actually no
@PissPoorAttitude i said actually no
the thing on her head doenst look like what an accurate angel would use
@PissPoorAttitude but it isnt valid yknow?
@@midarayuusuke all religions and people have different depictions of angels your depiction does not trump all others
How disgusting. Scamming people who are looking for love is absolutely disgusting, only garbage human beings do that.
Izzzy: who could forget dear old-
me: farmers only!!!
Izzzy: ashley madison
😳
ah ashley madison the site that ended many many relationships.
@@ddjsoyenby what was Ashley Madison by the way?
@@TheDreamingBean from what I know it was a dating site geared toward married men who wanted mistresses
Ashley Madison was big as fuck even the Simpson make a episode abaut that thing
didn't ashley madison have that hacking incident where they leaked people's info?
3:56 not to mention how weird the pairing is. Derpy and Princess Luna was not something I ever expected to see, but I guess they made a random couple that nobody would rationally pair up to prevent ship wars or something
I guess it was meant to say "anyone could be with anyone"
Yeah
But still
It should be like cadence and shining armor If they really wanted to make it symbolized that
Seriously What would luna think?
@@seantaggart7382 I like the idea but that would be too generic
@@chunkysundae9418 fine
my guess was they paired them because they were two of the most popular characters at the time and they wanted to get as many people as possible to sign up for their site? but that's just my theory
Years ago I did MLP cosplays and attended ponycons as a guest and panelist. From time to time my friends and I were told our photos were being used on this site which led to us trying and failing to stop it from happening. At the beginning of 2020 I was reached out to on Instagram from the actual Bronymate account asking if they could use my photos, even offering to pay me for them until I shut them down with some choice words and they blocked me. This whole site was wild and so awkward to deal with as someone whose photos were consistently used. Had to turn down a handful of guys in my DMs and explain to them that they were catfished between 2015 and 2019.
Site: "Welcome to the Dating Site. We got Christian people, gluten-free people, rich people-"
Person: "What the fuck is gluten? Take that shit out."
Site: "They're gluten-free."
Person: "I don't care if it's free!"
sethical reference
Ah...A fellow man of culture
Swear on your fucking *yeezys*
If we gon fight we gon fight
YOU BETTER TAKE THE GLUTEN OUT THAT DAMN SHIT
@@yunnuc YOU TRYNA BE ON W O R L D S T A R ?
can we talk about how amazing Izzys makeup always it
i know i would literally die to be able to do my makeup like her
Makes me wonder if she as a guide to it
Honestly I have never heard a single person refer to themselves as a pegasister I've only seen people say that's what there called but every girl I know just calls themselves a brony
Doesn't it seem a little...you know...strange? A female My Little Pony fan, using a term that male fans use for themselves?
@Most-sane-deltarune-fan It doesn't seem strange at all to me. I use bro and man in my daily vocabulary. Like some gay guys use sister or girl. It's just words.
5:13
This png flip is going to live rent free on my head for the next decade or so
ME TOO
OH MY GOD
SPEEEEN
the pinnacle of animation, truly
Ah yes, scamming desperate people out of their money, the only real "easy way to make money quick" =/ Like, yeah, bronies can be "cringe" (and what fandom doesn't have its fair share of those cases) but I still think there's a line between making fun of people and defrauding them. I mean, for a comparative example, it's the difference between Tumblr cringe compilations and dashcon. Both not the best humanity has to offer, but I think we can agree that one is worse than the other.
Look, I know everybody’s heard horror stories of groups of fans doing immoral, “cringe”, and sometimes illegal things, or just starting civil wars or whatever, but these fans are always either individuals or small organized cliques of radicals that don’t represent the whole fandom. Every time such a story surfaces, the actions of the vocal minority are condemned by the 99% of good fans. (And by the way, arguing doesn’t make a fandom toxic. Arguing is healthy if handled well. If it isn’t handled well and emotions are taken too far, refer back to what I said about radical fans). Every fandom has a vocal minority, even if they don’t make headlines. You’re more likely to hear such stories from bigger communities, but the ratio of “crazy” to “normal” is the same across fandoms as per a statistical phenomenon called the Law of Large Numbers. People hate fandoms all the time, even though they most likely engage in fandoms themselves. Liking something makes you part of that fandom. And before you push up your anime glasses and tell me that “actually, fandom is short for ‘fanatic domain’ and I am a NORMAL fan, not a crazy fanatic”, may I remind you that denotation does not equal connotation, so while “fanatic” brings to mind images of crazy devotion, it’s just the long word for “fan”. Fan is short for fanatic (as per Oxford Dictionary, or Merriam-Webster, I don’t recall), like how rap is an acronym for “rhythm and poetry” but has become its own word. Also, a domain is just a group in the broadest possible sense, accurately capturing how large and diverse fandoms are. Therefore, a fandom is just all the fans of a specific thing. Your level of engagement in a fandom doesn’t determine how much of a fan you are. Fanartists depend on casuals who view their art, for instance. The masses are just as important as the creators. By hating fandoms, you’re also hating on people who have genuinely been helped by finding a sense of community by connecting with like-minded people. Fandoms don’t ruin things for you if you find the right people in said fandom to interact with. With bigger fandoms especially, it’s not hard. I get that negativity is stronger than positivity, but you’ve got to fight that internal conflict for your own good. It’s your fault that vocal minorities of weird fans are never recognized as such, and are instead chalked up to the whole group.
Silence furry
@@JustifyTheseHeathens Tough words coming from somebody with an anime profile pic. Now that's just cringe bro :P
oh for sure, im still salty i felt the need to leave mlp as a whole when i was a teen girl who grew up with it tho so i lol
@@JustifyTheseHeathens bruh anime came outta the ass of a dude that drew rats, snakes, etc as sexy women. know your history king
4:51 i really dont know what i was expecting with that video but it sure wasn't that
this title scares me more than the brony fandom itself
Much of the time, the dating portion of a fandom scares me the most, especially since you have no idea who's on the other end.
Often times it leads to disaster.
@@silverflight01 honestly, any dating-related part of a fandom (shipping, fans dating, etc.) are areas I want to stay FAR away from as well
If you go one a dating site meant to connect you to someone who shares one interest then expect the relationship to fail.
Izzy’s accent makes me think everytime she’s sponsored by “warmpeople” she’s saying “worm people” and I get disappointed there’s no worms
@5:00 the trailer sounds like an Applejack impersonator being held at gunpoint and I don't know whether to be amused or concerned.
Both
Yee-haw! I sure hope this maa'm dont blown up my heaD with this big shotgun!
I keep getting spam e-mails from Bronymate. It's really irritating. I joined about 5 years ago, made a profile, then never went on again. Why the heck is its email system still operational?
Okay, but can we just appreciate the spikey head band for a sec, like- cmon.
I know I love it
Is there any version of the word "bronymate" that doesn't bring up thoughts of them wanting to kiss horses? HorseHounds? BarnBoys? GallopGuys? NaughtyNeighbors?
Those guys really can't win lol
UnitingUnicorns?
AHHH NAUGHTYNIEGHBORS Y E S
Tbh "horsehounds" just brings up an image of some half-horse half-dog creatures
@@peachiequeen3897 OK, BUT THAT ACTUALLY SOUNDS COOL
At least it would be a... stable relationship.
"brony dating site" automatically confuses me bc i need specific details. are you actually trying to get a date with another person w common interests? are you trying to find someone who'll have their pony oc/fursona/ponysona(?) "date" your pony oc/fursona/whatever? are you trying to date someone's ponysona? are you trying to roleplay? what is it?? what is the truth
Oh..god. you make so much more sense
Theres always something so scummy about preying on people who might be suffering from extreme loneliness just because of how vulnerable people can be mentally when they feel so lonely.
Yeah, dating site scams and romance scams in general are something you have to be a terrible, terrible person to get into.
Is George "am not bad looking, know many two-syllable words, can blow smoke rings and play xylophone" still single
You know its a good day when: Izzzyzzz posts.
For most of the video. I was like, "BronyMate? Why does that sound so familiar?" Then you mentioned FurryMate, and I was like, "That's why."
I even saw that super low quality ad for furrymate literally just the other day. Always screamed "scam" to me. And well... Apparently that's exactly the case.
One time, my furry cousin looked for a gf on furrymate...
She still has her gf to this day.
Even furries had to deal with a scam site…
Is there no escaping scam sites?
I remember watching some youtuber troll on that site a few years back. I was even gonna mention furrymate until she did in the video.
Wonder if WeebMate exist too…
As someone who's trans myself, seeing "I am seeking: man, woman, trans" is so funny, like imagine minding your own business and someone comes up to you and says "I am looking for a trans. Just one trans, please."
"I am seeking a: man/woman/trans"
bronymate said chaser rights
"christians, mormons, clowns; you know, the major religious groups."
the fake southern accent in the ad is so bad it's good
9:37 man it's been so long since i watched a video with a static ponysona using a totally Manly color scheme, i'm almost nostalgic
I can't believe they never used the term "Some-pony" in that awful commercial. lol
That's how you know it's a scam.
This whole bronymate situation reminds me of the furry dating website controversy. In fact they sound exactly the same, can’t read messages unless you pay a certain amount of money, most messages just being from bots, terrible advertising, and overall just being very scummy. I am heavily convinced that they are both made by the same people as that they just put on some different photos a different background and a different name and called it a day. Also the whole man woman trans thing offends me deeply.
Edit: I just saw that at 10:47 that they were heavily suspected for making the website that I was describing. I really am a dumb ass or raven from that so raven that’s your decision to make.
If I had a nickle for every time there's been a scam based around bronies dating things, I'd have two nickles, which isn't a lot but it's strange that it happened two times.
that ad were the longest 49 seconds of my life
"they were all women looking for men, and they were all above seven when it came to looks" what a gentleman , I'm in awe.
I misread the title as Brony Dating Sim Scam and thought "There were two of those? huh."
7:43 Is it really that hard to use “This person does not exist” generator? It would probably be a bit harder to prove that it’s a bot as long as the same stuff isn’t written in everything and the images are from other people
The "This person does not exost" is a bot generator or a bot exposer??
ai technology like "this person does not exist" did not exist did not exist in the early 2010s
just for the record, the anti sex trafficking act in the States shut down a lot of things to do with porn and prostitution. it wasn't really about trafficking that's just the shield for a conservative anti sex moral crusade.
IZZY NO, I THOUGHT YOU ESCAPED THE BRONIES, HOW COULD YOU RETURN
would we ever get a makeup tutorial perhaps? you’re legit one of my current inspirations for experimenting with different looks!
I second this!
I’ve seen Furry Mate advertised quite a lot on UA-cam as at one point I was regularly getting the Furry Mate introduction ad on UA-cam videos I was watching.
This brought so many horrible memories when I was a child.
Imagine having to go to the bank and explain why you’re being charged by a brony dating site
Why is this person's voice so damn relaxing to listen to?
11:55 I’m honestly surprised that FOSTA/SESTA didn’t shut down nearly all dating sites out there.
This is the true "yikes" there. Anywhere that shut down personal ads over this was probably more scrupulous than the ones that didn't.
Sidenote: FOSTA and SESTA were also anti-sex work. And also, if anyone did human traffic on that website, it would be the websites liability
this, and also anti-lgbt since places like craigslist personals and such had pretty significant lgbt populations. the sex-trafficing narrative was just a smoke-screen for moral policing.
Really frustrating to see a site shutting down because of it being treated as some sort of confession when in reality it just made it way harder to be any sort of sex-related site
I was hoping to find a comment like this
the way the ad whispers come on now... just spikes up red flags everywhere in my brain ;-;
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I wanted to give more information on SESTA/FOSTA mentioned at 11:45 , Pounced wasn't shut down for committing illegal actions, but was a victim of a blanket bill that did almost nothing about sex trafficking but instead was a gross violation of free speech, which people have been trying to repeal for years now!
Even Bernie Sanders signed the bill as it was basically forced upon politicians where if you didn't sign it, you would be seen as "supporting sex trafficking" when that clearly wasn't the case.
SESTA/FOSTA, in a nutshell, was a bill passed with the intention of cutting down on Sex Trafficking, but a glaring problem was how it went about it, with of the main points being that it would hold site owners FULLY accountable and able to be charged if acts of sex trafficking were found to be engaged in on the site in any way. If a couple hooked up on a dating site and cash was exchanged, the website owners could be held accountable and imprisoned/fined as if they were enabling it.
This bill was the sole reason that tumblr banned NSFW content on their site, as the terms of it were so vague that they just didn't want to deal with the possible repercussions that it would cause. This is also why sex workers on Twitter/instagram doing strictly online content constantly face scrutiny by the platforms of their choice, getting accounts banned left and right even thought they didn't violate any ToS. Countless sites like Pounced were forced to shut down as they couldn't afford the legal trouble that continuing operation would case.
There's way more to this than I'm letting on, but it'd be greatly appreciated if you could research a bit more and do a follow up on this point.
3:47 izzy: “and apparently his favourite character is rainbow dash”
Oh god not the oh no…
“The Jar”
The Brony Era was such a weird time that I'm not even surprised that there was a Brony dating site scandal.
You think the Brony Era is over? We still exist and there are still major scandals.
@@aaronfletcher8745 Well, I haven't heard of any major scandal for a while. Thou yes, the Brony community still exists. Not nearly as big as at the peak of its popularity, but it is still present. :)
@@najpotenicewolf934 Remember the shooting in Indianapolis a couple months ago? That's the most recent one I can think of.
@@aaronfletcher8745 was there any *actual* proof about the shooter being a brony?
Just sounds like something the mainstream media came up with to further call bronies "nazis"
@@gavichealsomething2169 The facebook page that he supposedly had seemed to indicate that he was a brony, albeit one that was beyond fanatical. Of course, it really didn't have much to do with the crime, but the media decided to make it out to be a major factor.
My guess as to why this happens a lot to niche fandoms is the idea "Oh these idiots are desperate, they'll do anything".
And while some might, more and more won't. While fandom culture is still niche, it's also more mainstream than ever. Gone are the days of fandom culture only existing of desperate nerds in mom's basement (not that some don't remain).
So with more average people engaging in fandom, the desperate need for contact lessens because they can go to meet-ups and conventions.
I think that's why dating scams are failing more nowadays. Or well, they were until 2020 due to all of the isolation.
I'm gonna be honest- as a part of the teen/adult side of the mlp community (Specifically the art community), some of the things people here do are embarrassing af. I promise it's not all bad; the stupid, gross, and awful people are just a LOT louder than the rest of the community.
I get that, I'm a furry and I hate it when media portrays us as creepy, zoophilic weirdos when we're just a fun community trying to live life
@@ryebread908 Yeah exactly! I'm pretty supportive of the anthro community, and am part of it but it's not my main interest. Most of the community is extremely welcoming and kind, I've never even met a zoophile gross person yet. Sucks that outsiders only see the bad side.
I think I've been told in Insta comments that my opinion doesn't matter because I draw ponies 💀💀💀