The Moroccan (!!) girl at 08.23 is precisely saying what I mean. Same Middle Eastern mentality = similar socio-psychological factors/state of mind when coping with social questions in life. Its cultural. Ashkenazi = European, Mizrakhi = Middle Eastern.
focusontheargument Ashkenazim mentality is no different the colonist Europeans , they consider themselves “better then” not all but quite a few. It’s actually because of the backward thinking that Jews whom come from Arab/Muslim lands are poor, uneducated because that is what they think of those Arabs & muslims, it’s quite the opposite in a lot of cases. My family came from Morocco & were very wealthy very educated & were basically force to leave Morocco only to be treated & put in second class camps as well as rank, employment, schools. How many in the Israeli government are of Sephardi or Mizrahim extraction? THATS WHAT NEEDS TO CHANGE ISRAEL! Netanyahu what ever you think of him, his wife is well known to say & do insulting things against Sephardim & Mizrahim. I won’t & don’t forget that, it plays a part into that thinking. Who better to understand all that is surrounding you then Jews formally from Arab & Muslim countries? Israeli’s /Jews originated in the Middle East respect that, don’t suppress it. When Europe was stuck in the Middle Ages , Spain Egypt & most of the Middle East was giving the world mathematics & science. Your welcome 😘🧿
@@Jordana1018 Good points. Frankly I don't care how they try to spin it... By bloodline the Mizrahi are closer to Abraham and Isaac. But at the end of the day - it is about upholding the covenant given at Mt. Sinai... Apart from that there is no claim to Eretz Israel.
This video is absolutely fantastic. The basic question is great, and the diversity of people answering allows for a great start for this video to be used as a dialog starter or part of a class. Well done.
Hi Corey, I am Muslim from Canada and I love your videos, you do not take side ( ofc little bit but it is ok, you are an Israeli )and just do street interviews with real people
And his wife before him nailed the mentality of politicians. They foster racism and strife. That gives them an excuse to maintain power. Her analogy of them needing to add fuel to the conflict to get their energy was brilliant.
It's quite simple, Ashkenazim have a more liberal view due to them coming from Liberal Europe, as for Mizrahiim, they come from more local and Arab culture where it is more conservative in many cultural and social aspects, like faith in public life, abortion, gay rights and so on. I believe this to be more of a factor, but not completely.
@@thetazamanianshow What do you mean, most Ashkenazim that arrived in the 20th century were born in a Polish right-wing dictatorship or even in Tsarist Russia.
@@meirtt The early Zionist settlers gained a foothold in Palestine by setting up socialist Kibbutzim. That is the origin of their leftist poltics, not where they came from. In fact, the non-zionist Jews that they left behind were much more left-wing than they were.
I think because Sephardim are mostly more religious and traditional, and Ashkenazim are likely to be secular and liberal. I think the most important one is the cultural/religious factor. There are lots of Ashkenazim who are conservative too, but in general I think this is a viable explanation.
Jonatas Figueiredo I think, no I know for sure, that if you try to squeeze yourself next to Hashem on His throne, you might think you are close to Him, but by doing that, you are only distancing yourself from Him even more.
Corey, I'm surprised nobody mentioned the historical *economic* reasons and institutionalized employment biases (e.g., Histadrut) that led many Mizrahim to feel disenchanted with the Left, and thus are perceived as leaning to the Right to this day. I really think you should interview me in all your videos. I would give a great explanations to your answers, not only personal, but reflecting the full spectrum of local Israeli opinions for all your non-Israeli viewers.
+Scranny Exactly ! Ashkenazim dominate Government employment, hence they feel very secure and also so large-hearted to reach out to Arabs. In the 1970s-80s they also experimented with atheism, feminism and "free love' and inter-racial marriage. Mizrahim were always a community of traders and refugees who are very rooted in the Middle Eastern culture and have very strong family values and patriarchical society. Although intermarriage is widely accepted nowadays., I can tell you, Ashkenazim were way more comfortable with hte idea before the Mizrahim.
+AfricanLion65 Today its not really the case that Ashkenazim are all right wing. The Jewish home party is majority Ashkenazi voters and is the most right wing party in the Knesset. UTJ is also ashknazi and is right wing Perhaps 1/4 of Ashkenazi Jews are leftist and the rest are either centrist or right wingIt is however true that most Mizrahi Jews vote for the right. The reason for that is simply that they are far less trusting of arabs. They tend to like liberal ideas much less.
@@SimonKanner-si3it I do not think that is necessarily relevant. Slave owners built US for instance. No one is going to permanently choose a side because someone built their country.
I am an outsider and yet I knew there were more complex reasons to account for this. Most people are not well informed and that is why politicians get away with what they do.
My question is for Israeli Arabs: Would you agree to defend Israel if they were attacked in a war completely unrelated to the Israeli-Palestinian/Arab conflict and the enemy was a non-Palestinian/Arab country? "Charles", Sweden
The Observer I disagree with what you're saying. Because I'm an Arab who lives in Israel, and I'd be glad to defend the country that I was raised in and gave me the right to live, work and study(human rights). I don't consider myself a Palestinian
This is because Ashkenazim are much more secular than Mizrachim and generally hold European ideas regarding society and state, while Mizrachim who stick to their parents' culture tend to have a more tribal loyalty mentality and religious sentiments.
Thank you for pointing out this statement. When one gives it much thought, it becomes more obvious that secularism (at best) and an assimilationist mindset (at worst) are the primary reasons why American Jews, most of whom are Ashkenazim, tend to think Left in the States, too. Thank goodness for this video to show how diverse the Jewish people really are.
I'm thinking that Ashkenazi vote left because, like the Jews in Europe going back to the 19th century, the left--whether liberal, Communist or socialist--meant humanism, progress, tolerance, and acceptance for the Jews, and a discarding of the traditional values, which included traditional antisemitism. So voting left came naturally. For the Mizrahim, I'm guessing that they're reacting to their not-so-great treatment by the Arabs when their families were still living in Arab countries, and their not-so-great treatment by Labour governments, which were dominated by Ashkenazis.
Humanism? Bitch what? Lol. Communists killed literally millions of people in europe and in gulags. My family were some of them. Are you delusional or just unaware of history. Communists literally wouldnt let people leave or be free tf
What "not-so-great treatment" by the arabs are you talking about We did not but anyone in gas chambers or start racial wars , Europe did Jews were the most privileged groups in our countries, go to Egypt or Syria and see the neighborhoods they used to live in Literally the prestigious parts of every major city, not some ghettos Jews and even Christian minorities migration to the Arab world existed for centuries running away from atrocities committed against them in the northern part of this earth This rewriting of history to transfer guilt to Arabs by Europeans/whites who actually committed racial segregation is beyond evil
It comes down to most Ashkenazim being left wing utopian socialist dreamers and most mizrahim having roots from arab countries and know how it is to live with muslims, they understand their mentality and how they have to be dealt with.
zaxx19 Wow, that's a big good lie ! Tunisian jews are part of Tunisia and NEVER ever someone has asked them to leave ! They have been part of the nationalis movements and in the first government of Bourguiba there has been 2 yehudi ministers and a lot more members in the parliament. In the fifties the palestine conflict began and they feared the effects of the conflict. In the same time France offered them french passeports and Israel offered them money, either ways it is a better life than in a poor Tunisia. They have never been insecure in Tunisia, It's mostly economical, stop spreading lies
I've never said that. Don't say 'you' to me including me with other people, you know nothing about me. I only gave FACTS about one situation wich is Tunisia.
I sold out the indigenous people of North Africa ? HAHAHAHAHAHAHA You are so confused it's hilarious :) You are not worth having a discussion with, you're too confused.
xplosivelilly It's rather hard to brainwash people in a democracy with an open press -- including Arabic press. For all Israel's faults, and it does have many, it does at least have a very vibrant and open dialogue where opposing viewpoints can be heard and debated without fear.
maybe once upon a time israel was like that, but however now the country is slowly turning into another middle eastern country as the ultra right wing is slowly taking over the hearts and minds of israelis. Israel only has rights for Jews, and Arabs are considered as 'guests' rather than actual human beings who deserve some sort of respect. it is an aparthied nation where ultra fanatical jews live separately on the arab's own land, and are protected. so no, i don't think israel should deserve any sort of credit where free speech is concerned. The problems with the Arabs go back 100's of years in addition to colonialism. Israel however, only being born in '48, has caused tremendous conflict.
xplosivelilly Yes and no, like you, I too am very concerned (to put it lightly) at the growth of right-wing politics like that of Naftali Bennett and it is true as well that Israel has shifted rightward. But, f/e, just this past week the Palestinian winner of Arab Idol had a concert in Israel attended by 10,000 people, including Palestinian members of the Israeli Parliament -- despite Mohammad Assaf having a couple of very nationalistic Palestinian songs, no one stopped him from performing or from people going to his concert, including Arab-Israeli Parliamentarians who are often and openly harshly critical of Israel, its government and Zionism. If you read Haaretz, one of Israel's most respected papers, it is full of criticism of the occupation and Israeli policy. So to regard the country or its populace as entirely brainwashed or reactionary is simply unfair and untrue.
@@xplosivelilly I shouldn't be replying to a 5 year old comment, but I'm genuinely intrigued how after listening to her speech, which justifies a right-wing, hawkish approach to the Palestinian problem, you came to the conclusion that "she will make peace within 1 year" followed by the typical left-leaning rhetoric about apartheid and general Israel-bashing. Her position, though spoken very eloquently, is basically in line with that of the Israeli right... which has been dominating Israel politics for the last few decades. You're right that Israel is becoming "another Middle Eastern country" (not sure why this is supposed to be a bad thing, especially to someone who's throwing around words like "colonialism" and "apartheid", considering that Israel and Jews are routinely accused of not being middle eastern enough by critics), but this is happening for precisely the same reasons that this woman explained. In other words, everything you are saying supports the left-wing position, except for your conclusion. Don't get me wrong; I agree with the conclusion, but I really don't understand how you got there.
It could also be asked why do the educated and secular vote left, while the less educated and religious vote right, Ashkenazi Haredim, who are mostly uneducated,and very religious vote right. But...... Historically, the left parties were not accepting of the Mizrahim, and this led to a feeling of alienation, much like how Republicans alienated American Jews
The ultra orthodox parties, although considered right wing, aren’t really right wing. Not economically and not in matters of state and security. They’re actually more left winged when it comes to any matter other than religion
hmmm - is this what you call wisdom or colonialism. She's simplified an incredibly complex and tragic situation. Shes also very condescending + ignorant about Palestinian Arabs.
Let me answer you: Mizrahim were discriminated by the left wing party Mapai (the labor party) In 1977 the Likud rose to power and this is the moment Mizrahim gained power. They tend to vote Likud because "that's what their parents voted" Voting left is like almost a privilege in this country. They feel like the left doesn't care about them. I vote Meretz
"I don't wanna give a reductionist view" but it is quite simple lol, the ones from Europe carry European ideas, the ones from the middle-east do not, simple really lol and leftism in general is a very European thing and quite unique to Europe and later to (parts of) Asia
ashkenazi - European/white background (from Germany for example). Google Bar Rafaeli she's really Ashkenazi Mizrachi - Arab/Medditeranian Jew (from Morocco, Spain, or Italy for example)
PubFuze yeah but in that video i couldnt tell. anyway bar refaeli and other blonde jews are rare... even in europe.. most of the jews has black hair or dark brown
Mike Leonardo Really? does the guy in 3:26 seem middle-eastern to me? I'm just curious.And yeah you're right, the only blonde people we have in Israel are mostly of Russian/Polish descent.
Mirai Sensei that’s so stupid nothing in history books say that arabs dod any thing to you and you do live with arabs in your country right now 21% of Israel are arab
@@majdabohsen7197 just read about the farhud. they beat the father of my grand mother he came home full of blood after he just wanted to come back home from the shul. and they killed the uncle of my grandmother and so many people they hanged in the middle of the street. that's why the jews ran away to israel, the arab pogroms made israel population grow in more than 60% because of it.
At 7:05 there is coherent answer. Ashkenazim having historical experience from Europe, can't comprehend the Arab mentality. Basically they live in what should be - rainbows, unicorns, people holding hands - instead of reality.
That's a bit strange to me, considering many of the Ashkenazim have relatives who perished in the Shoah. You would think the descendants of camp survivors would not see the world as all rainbows and unicorns....
@@dm-gq5uj The survivors were rescued by Europeans and Americans in the end. Being relative to victim is not the same experience. Also they lived in peace in Europe for generations, certainly from the Enlightenment period - the NAZI part was brutal but it was very short lived, so their historical experience is more positive. Arab culture was more harsh experience over the ages, I guess. Overall they might be more cautious towards Europeans but see Arabs as not as dangerous. I think bottom line, every lefty (upholding altruist dogma) has soft spot for people who are losers and since Palestinians are losing...
@efopo Of course. Winning the war = liberating concentration camps anyway....and much more. That's why Winning the War was the right goal to have. Liberating death camps, few knew about was marginal PR issue.
10:03...I love her response. She understands it. Both of them.. This couple gets it and I'm starting to understand this whole situation with Corey's videos. Side note: Wow she's beautiful 🥰 no I'm not a lesbian😒 13:03...this person also makes sense. Hugs to them.
I thought the same. And yes, she is really beautiful and and the last one also seems to be the type of person I would love to spend some time with, talking about all kinds of stuff.
you must be idiot to post such comment !!! you cannot prove that Mizrahim had been persecuted by the arabs during several centuries !!!!! especially when you find that the golden age of the jewish community was in Andalucia during the islamic rule !!!! shame on you ,,,, totale ingratitude !!!!! how many jews had been killed during their residence among the Arabs? i am waiting for an accurate answer
The reason could be that the majority of Ashkenazi Jews have European or North American passports. and therefore are not very concerned if things go wrong inside Israel, whereas Mizrahi Jews have no backup plan and need to vote for the hardline political party to ensure their future is safe.
The majority of Ashkenazi Jews in Israel do not have an either a European or an American passport of any kind only a small minority do. I don't know where you got that information. The vast majority; 90% of Ahskenazi Jews came directly from Europe to Israel either prior to 1948 or in the 50s as displaced persons or from what was or was soon to become soviet union and are not entitled to a passport. The amount of American Jews who emigrated there in tiny numbers, mostly from the 70s onwards a big increase in the 2000s barely accounts for 1% of Israelis and under 5% of Ashkenazim.
+Jay Bartgis if it's a european idea then it's exclusively for europeans to think it? ISIS has an idea that attracts people from around the world. also, there are non europeans who are culturally european and europeans who are culturally more turkish/ugric/north african. where's your logic?
Martin Ledermann that doesn't give you a percentage. btw karl marx while of jewish descent, was baptised, and was an atheist that was very much against jews - there is a book "a world without jews" that quotes marx on jews.
boliussa I'm an atheist German Jew myself, you think I wouldn't know the biography of Karl Marx? You simply missed my point, ie. that it's not necessarily the truth that Ashkenazis in Russia or Poland were relatively more likely to be pro-socialist than the ones in Weimar Germany.
I would guess that in general sfardim/mizrachim are more religious or traditional than ashkenazim who are usually quite religious or completely secular.
I think that simply comes from the fact that Mizrahi com from conservative and religious environments, and Ashkenazi come from liberal democracy envirment. I guesss that leaves an impact on their discion making. even today in Israel the mizhari seem to be more cultural and religious than the ashkanazies.
Jabu Jolly i am also American born. (my parents came here for my fathers work) i am currently commuting between the U.S. and Israel you are welcome to come visit me anytime. peace onto you my friend.
Can someone show me some data that the premise of the question is correct? I am not disputing it. I would just like to see some data. I heard this before. I always thought it was because a lot of Mizahim were generally treated poorly in the Middle East and wanted to been seen as strong for defense (or go on the offense) against Arabs. This video now makes me think I was wrong.
2:00 that exactly the beauty of Israel and secularism, anyone can support whatever they believe is right. Whether it is actually morally or ethically right is a while other story and whether their looking at the whole picture is also another story, most people just focus on the shit that happens now an ignore the political climate that brought about all this nonsense.
its funny that the supposed general conception is that Ashkenazi vote left and protest against Israel and the idf. In islamic propaganda that tries to discredit the jews they paintIsrael as a European colony that is ruled by europeans(referring to askenazis).
+Mo. Nawaflih It has three biggest dimensions in Israel. In one dimension left means prioritizing peace with Arabs over security and right means prioritizing security. In the second dimensions left means more social democrat and right means more capitalist republic. In the third dimension left means more secular and right means more religious. There are exceptions where a religious party can be socialist (and not just towards Jews) or a secular party can prioritize security but generally the media and politicians are trying to sell us the idea of right vs left without all the intricacies.
+Mo. Nawaflih In general, left means that you want the government to be more involved in everything. More rules, regulations, etc. Right means the opposite obviously, less regulations, more "personal freedom".
It's like this in America too with our Jews like 75%+ vote left wing and ironically they are all basically Ashkenazim with the exception of orthodox Jews who mostly vote right and are Ashkenazim.
7:45 I think this guy got it right. Jews who came from Islamic countries and lived under centuries of oppression there better understand the supremacist worldview of Islam, and know the futility of peace with Muslims. Peace in this context can only be won through strength.
Are you kidding me? Jews in Europe had it much worse than Jews in the Middle East. Yet Ashkenazi jews do not display the shame and disassociation with their oigins than Mizrahi do when it comes to where they came from.
Haha, when did the Arabs do the Holocaust? The Ashkenazis suffered that faith in Europe yet they love Europe and Europeans? Or specifically, the Germans!
My wife is Sefardic Jewish origin,I am proud Serbian...and I love my wife...we have two son's....what are they? I will tell ....best people of best mix in the hole world. I have been in war back in 1999 against shqiptar KLA,,NATO..and I have defending my country...and in war I killed those terrorist with my rifle...but I do not hate shqiptar(albanian) as people at all...also Israelis fight Arabs but there is no hate,neither love...so finaly I have to say that I wouled go again to liberate my Kosovo province from terrorist and bring it back to Serbia...cose my people originated from there....also Israelis naturaly feel need to protect they land ,ancient lend of Israel...and Arabs (palestinian) naturaly wish to liberete palestine...and now ho is in right and ho is in wrong ? Ha? GOD know.....and people are all the same,for sure...they wish to rise children,be happy and enjoy in life...so only those tursty for power,money...etc are cousing problems to all of us. Fuck them all! Enjoy life and be good man or women..love God...and thats it. Regards !
Wow that girl said it perfectly, the Middle East is a hardcore place to live, people either see it there way or the Highway, the Mizrahim know that, that's why they vote right wing(even though until now the leaders have al been Ashkenazin), they know the Arab we'll never accept them and by occupation they mean all the land not just the West Bank(which literally is the military name the Jordanians gave it to distinguish it from mainland Jordan), they know that and have come to realize the Arab will never accept them, but the Ashkenazim live in there own delusion as if it's just Paris and everything is very good and nice, it's seems they haven't grasped the reality that this is the Middle East and not Europe.
@@shaboki802 yes I know there are many Mizrahim in government but the top person meaning the PM has always been a Ashkenazim, bit I guess it might change with Ayelet Shaked in the future or maybe even Gideon Saar right now if Netanyahu is kicked out.
@@shaboki802 I never said it's about racism, the Ashkenazim-Sephardic/Mizrahim divide ended long ago, it probably only exists in the Haredim today, but it would be great for a Mizrahim to become PM, especially a female Mizrahim.
6:53 the best response from them... 15:02 Centerists got much more than than the left yet they still look like 3 times smaller in this diagram than the left, and even from the arabs who got only 11.
I will attempt to answer this as a Mizrahi living in New York. Ashkenazi come from a background of pain and suffering. Rabbis have always had strict control over them and any movement was to get away from that. Their "enlightenment" Era was crafted to escape strict rabbinical hold over them and to establish a European assimilation movement so that they could feel more in control and embrace more liberal ways of living and thinking, whether they decided to stay yiddish or learn their surrounding languages and culture. This has been progressing, giving birth to many different Ashkenazi Jewish experimental groups. Communism has been the latest in this liberal utopian escape. "The Great Experiment" which miserably failed and has killed more people than any other movement or war in history. Yes, Communism is the biggest political murder of ALL TIME. Mizrahi on the other hand have always been integrated into their respective societies. Speaking the language, knowing the cuisine, and most importantly, contributing to the livelihood of their homelands. There is and was no rabbinic control to eschew things and mislead the large groups of people, especially when it came to cooperation with the land and its people. Mizrahi have been allowed to live the lives they wanted without fear from the outside, the law. With that said, Mizrahi feel very comfortable in"conservative" valued spaces. Islamic/ Arabic culture calls for the harmony of moral living which is all that we know to "vote" for. It's our nature. Mizrahi are much more behind the scenes than Ashkenazim, who seem to covet attention whether good or bad. Mizrahi like the status quo and don't mind being humble.
I think it's exactly the opposite, the right, they know what happens when you don't have control of the freedom to control your destiny, leftists, they are arrogant that they should control the destiny of others, that they know best.
But I agree with you communism is the worst. Leftist ideas are dangerous. To take away individual rights. Every Jew should know better. I think it's also the constant manipulation of the left to say Nazi is right wing. When they are and were SOCIALISTS.
"Mizrahi on the other hand have always been integrated into their respective societies. Speaking the language, knowing the cuisine, and most importantly, contributing to the livelihood of their homelands." Sorry but this is absolutely comical, are you Jewish? Because this reads exactly like what an antisemetic European would say. Jewish people in Europe WERE well integrated, often spoke multiple European languages, and were usually more educated than the non-Jewish people in their homelands and contributed plenty to the livelihood and especially the CULTURE of the countries they lived in. Ashkenazim were often at the forefront of science, maths, the arts and so on in their European countries, they made up a significant part of the intelligentsia which is PRECISELY what European antisemites tried to use as a weapon against them and claim that the reason so many of the top doctors, philosophers, writers and artists in their countries were Jewish was because there was some massive conspiracy going on and Jewish people were "power hungry" and wanted to "take control of the world". People like Freud and Kafka and all the intellectual and artistic Jews who were successful were often used as points to "prove" this. Universities in Poland, Germany and other countries looked at the fact that a large percentage of the people graduating from their universities were Jewish and literally implemented quotas to restrict Jewish people from attending universities above a certain percentage because they believed them to be "over-represented". Jewish people were mainly established in metropolitan urban centres so the poorer gentiles in the rural areas associated them with so-called "metropolitan decadence" and this is where a lot of hatred, jealousy and antisemetic stereotypes came from. There were plenty of well off Jewish families who had been that way for many generations, and they had their apartments, belongings, paintings, etc confiscated by the nazis. So they too were people who had been educated, integrated and part of the middle and upper class and were all of a sudden forced into poverty which they had never known before. You seem extremely uneducated on the history of Jewish people in Europe. Despite antisemitism they managed to thrive in their countries and leave a huge footprint on the cultures of the places they lived. All this came crashing down around them in the 1930s but that doesn't mean that prior to that they were not speaking the language of the country they lived in or not "knowing its cuisine" and didn't "contribute to the livelihood" of their countries, I've never read something so utterly ridiculous said about Jewish people by somebody who is supposedly Jewish. There are literally neo-nazis nowadays in Europe who talk like this and say Jewish people never contributed anything and were just a punch of "parasites" but okay. They've never read a book in their lives either.
wow mate im following you for a few years now and i just see this video , the comments of the people are way more intresting then i expected ! in 4:20 they gave the most intresting and honest answers ! the leftish Kurdish guy who spoke about the Mizrahim and told the trueth about the history and didnt try to be one sided he is a guy that if all the leftist and rightist were like him , we could negotiate more and be less left and right and more together
The reason is two folds. First, the ashkenazi brought kibbutzim and communism /left ideology with them in the 1880s and after that. Secondly, until the late 1970's, Prime Ministers were all ashkinazi and during that time and afterwards (much less now), ashkenazi looked down upon sephardic and mizrahi jews as peasants and uneducated and didnt want to mix with them in overall society. So all the peopel who grew up during that time who felt discriminated against vy the dominant ashkinazi society (who were dominant in academic, gov, business) voted for the other side. The second reason : Since sephardic and mizarahi jews come from arab countries, they are aware of how the muslim world think, how they act, so they tend to be more hawkish than the naive ashkinazi. They understand that the arab world only respect strength so the people who believe in this vote for the more hawkish party. In addition, not counting the ultra orthodx, sepahrdic are more traditional, more religious than the ashkinazim and the Left in Israel traditionally is more secular/ less religious than the right.
benjamin Mlak lol..even in Palestinian before illegal state Israel established by zionists the jews lived peacefully with Christian and Muslims.. If you don't forget it was the European romans who killed jews in the name of Crusade and it was European Christian who killed 6 million jews in germany, Muslims never attacked jews..and all the arab jews came to Israel to established Israel, its not torture in their own country, even u can find Jewish in iran also in Parliament
TagMahirTzedek I dont want no one ENOFRICNG me any religious laws, see? And I think, that if there is a big group of people that agree to work in shabat, they should have this opportunity. You understand, why I'm against halaha or other religious system? It have to be your personal, private, individual choice. In a religious state there is only a KAHAL, a TRIBE above the individual. Thanks but no thanks. Live and let live, that's my Tora on one leg.
Ashkenazis are European Jews so it is normal they are more social democratic. Others are more conservative like Turks, Arabs, Persians. Every two groups carried the character of the land they came from.
The lady at min 9 spoke the truth. She summed up the problem and the solution. As long as charlatans are using the rift between the people to secure their rule, the rift will never heal. It's what I call a catch 22.
in the market you will find a lot of right wing voters , if you go to north tel aviv you will find a lot of left wing voters ...more than anything else.
I think the gentleman's perception from the 7 minute mark is good- that the "rules" being played by are that of the middle east, not Europe. But that raises a broader thought, which is that over time "rules" are pressured by modernity, something Ashkenazim from around the world have far more exposure to than the Mizrahim, who live surrounded by others who are only in recent years experiencing the forces of modernity: Industrial Revolution forces which affect feminist forces and religious norms and the choices science newly offers which solve problems which traditionalists are dogmatic about for practical reasons which no longer exist. So yes, the politics of the right pervade most of the middle east, and when contrasted by a New York Jew like myself seem understandable in context over there in Israel, but nevertheless underevolved, purposefully so, by dogmatic forces. Again, this shows the unique way in which the Enlightenment forces are fought in Israel.
could be because some eshkanzi were communists.socialists so they vote left. the ones who had lived in arab lands perhaps have developed animosity but this has changed a lot
@@kusimashelachem7197 bullshit...Sephardim are not Mizrahi.! Sephardim (the true and real Jews in Europe)got kicked out out Spain in 1492 and later in 1494-6 from Portugal to other countries, they assimilated into other societies and some of their customs!! and still that doesn't make them an Arab or a Mizrahim unlike the Azhkenaz since they are converted Kazars.....
@@anzhelamagdalene6472 I don't see any question addressed to me.! and my family lived in Israel before it was Israel and we don't look nothing like Mizrahi at all...and I experienced and lived big time racism there!!
Corey is ruining these videos by subverting what people are saying with completely made up subtitles. It’s almost better that he makes no video rather than make up translations.
did you notice the guy that says hes jewish yet he is half Persian and smthing else and he says the arabs are fighting against him yet they are the samething .the power is for money.
Because he asked people in Tel Aviv, which is a leftist dictatorship. If you express right wing opinions over there, the PC cult will hunt you. In the periphery of Israel people express right wing opinions much easily
As an outsider trying to understand I really enjoy what you do
I hope you understand a little...
The Moroccan (!!) girl at 08.23 is precisely saying what I mean. Same Middle Eastern mentality = similar socio-psychological factors/state of mind when coping with social questions in life. Its cultural. Ashkenazi = European, Mizrakhi = Middle Eastern.
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focusontheargument Ashkenazim mentality is no different the colonist Europeans , they consider themselves “better then” not all but quite a few. It’s actually because of the backward thinking that Jews whom come from Arab/Muslim lands are poor, uneducated because that is what they think of those Arabs & muslims, it’s quite the opposite in a lot of cases. My family came from Morocco & were very wealthy very educated & were basically force to leave Morocco only to be treated & put in second class camps as well as rank, employment, schools. How many in the Israeli government are of Sephardi or Mizrahim extraction? THATS WHAT NEEDS TO CHANGE ISRAEL! Netanyahu what ever you think of him, his wife is well known to say & do insulting things against Sephardim & Mizrahim. I won’t & don’t forget that, it plays a part into that thinking. Who better to understand all that is surrounding you then Jews formally from Arab & Muslim countries? Israeli’s /Jews originated in the Middle East respect that, don’t suppress it. When Europe was stuck in the Middle Ages , Spain Egypt & most of the Middle East was giving the world mathematics & science. Your welcome 😘🧿
S.H. K. No doubt they did.
too generalistic, very racist putting people in boxes. israel is a mix today with many israelis voting for likud, and better so!
@@Jordana1018 Good points. Frankly I don't care how they try to spin it... By bloodline the Mizrahi are closer to Abraham and Isaac. But at the end of the day - it is about upholding the covenant given at Mt. Sinai... Apart from that there is no claim to Eretz Israel.
This video is absolutely fantastic. The basic question is great, and the diversity of people answering allows for a great start for this video to be used as a dialog starter or part of a class. Well done.
I agree!
Why Cant we all get along. Stop the hate and breeding of special Races.
Start friendship instead of division !!
@@studiodevelopers2467 no
the reason mizrachim vote right is they understand the mentality of the primary ethnicity of the countries they came from.
mizrachim understand the arab culture and mindset and realize cannot be liberal idiots and survive
Hi Corey, I am Muslim from Canada and I love your videos, you do not take side ( ofc little bit but it is ok, you are an Israeli )and just do street interviews with real people
The guy at 10:04 kinda nailed it
And his wife before him nailed the mentality of politicians. They foster racism and strife. That gives them an excuse to maintain power. Her analogy of them needing to add fuel to the conflict to get their energy was brilliant.
Very well said Dikla and Paul - wraps up the whole thing in a few mins 7:00
It's quite simple, Ashkenazim have a more liberal view due to them coming from Liberal Europe, as for Mizrahiim, they come from more local and Arab culture where it is more conservative in many cultural and social aspects, like faith in public life, abortion, gay rights and so on. I believe this to be more of a factor, but not completely.
+Salomon Crenshaw They didn't come from liberal Europe but from xenophobic eastern and central Europe
The Observer could be, but have integrated in liberal Europe well.
@@thetazamanianshow What do you mean, most Ashkenazim that arrived in the 20th century were born in a Polish right-wing dictatorship or even in Tsarist Russia.
@@meirtt The early Zionist settlers gained a foothold in Palestine by setting up socialist Kibbutzim. That is the origin of their leftist poltics, not where they came from. In fact, the non-zionist Jews that they left behind were much more left-wing than they were.
@@broodjeal-cohol5033 The Polish right-wing dictatorship actively trained and financed the Haganah.. ;)
I think because Sephardim are mostly more religious and traditional, and Ashkenazim are likely to be secular and liberal. I think the most important one is the cultural/religious factor. There are lots of Ashkenazim who are conservative too, but in general I think this is a viable explanation.
Jonatas Figueiredo I think, no I know for sure, that if you try to squeeze yourself next to Hashem on His throne, you might think you are close to Him, but by doing that, you are only distancing yourself from Him even more.
I agree, but the boundaries are also fading
sure, but why is that the case? that doesn't get to the root cause
Because they all come from arab countries and know what arab opressor is
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Corey, I'm surprised nobody mentioned the historical *economic* reasons and institutionalized employment biases (e.g., Histadrut) that led many Mizrahim to feel disenchanted with the Left, and thus are perceived as leaning to the Right to this day. I really think you should interview me in all your videos. I would give a great explanations to your answers, not only personal, but reflecting the full spectrum of local Israeli opinions for all your non-Israeli viewers.
+Scranny Exactly ! Ashkenazim dominate Government employment, hence they feel very secure and also so large-hearted to reach out to Arabs. In the 1970s-80s they also experimented with atheism, feminism and "free love' and inter-racial marriage. Mizrahim were always a community of traders and refugees who are very rooted in the Middle Eastern culture and have very strong family values and patriarchical society. Although intermarriage is widely accepted nowadays., I can tell you, Ashkenazim were way more comfortable with hte idea before the Mizrahim.
+AfricanLion65 Today its not really the case that Ashkenazim are all right wing. The Jewish home party is majority Ashkenazi voters and is the most right wing party in the Knesset. UTJ is also ashknazi and is right wing Perhaps 1/4 of Ashkenazi Jews are leftist and the rest are either centrist or right wingIt is however true that most Mizrahi Jews vote for the right. The reason for that is simply that they are far less trusting of arabs. They tend to like liberal ideas much less.
@@SimonKanner-si3it I do not think that is necessarily relevant. Slave owners built US for instance. No one is going to permanently choose a side because someone built their country.
They vote right because they know what its like to live under arab opressor
I am an outsider and yet I knew there were more complex reasons to account for this. Most people are not well informed and that is why politicians get away with what they do.
Hey Corey, great channel - I would like to know what is considered as 'zionism' in Israel and what are the peoples opinions on it?
My question is for Israeli Arabs:
Would you agree to defend Israel if they were attacked in a war completely unrelated to the Israeli-Palestinian/Arab conflict and the enemy was a non-Palestinian/Arab country?
"Charles", Sweden
+charlesdarwin55 The answer is no they would actively support the destruction of the Jewish people along with the enemies
That question is predicated on a fantasy world.
The Observer I disagree with what you're saying. Because I'm an Arab who lives in Israel, and I'd be glad to defend the country that I was raised in and gave me the right to live, work and study(human rights). I don't consider myself a Palestinian
Unless you're a Hasbara troll.
yasmine aluzza respect sir ✊
Is that a joint at 11:18? hahahaha. No wonder they are so deep.
Thanks for these videos. they are very illuminating.
That lady at 9:00 min is a treasure. If made PM of Israel I believe peace will reign in the holy land.
yes she is : alegant smart fluent
This is because Ashkenazim are much more secular than Mizrachim and generally hold European ideas regarding society and state, while Mizrachim who stick to their parents' culture tend to have a more tribal loyalty mentality and religious sentiments.
Thank you for pointing out this statement. When one gives it much thought, it becomes more obvious that secularism (at best) and an assimilationist mindset (at worst) are the primary reasons why American Jews, most of whom are Ashkenazim, tend to think Left in the States, too. Thank goodness for this video to show how diverse the Jewish people really are.
Ashnazi are just racist europeans playing dress up.
@@nzwaywish you’re gross and ignorant
I'm thinking that Ashkenazi vote left because, like the Jews in Europe going back to the 19th century, the left--whether liberal, Communist or socialist--meant humanism, progress, tolerance, and acceptance for the Jews, and a discarding of the traditional values, which included traditional antisemitism. So voting left came naturally. For the Mizrahim, I'm guessing that they're reacting to their not-so-great treatment by the Arabs when their families were still living in Arab countries, and their not-so-great treatment by Labour governments, which were dominated by Ashkenazis.
Humanism? Bitch what? Lol. Communists killed literally millions of people in europe and in gulags. My family were some of them. Are you delusional or just unaware of history. Communists literally wouldnt let people leave or be free tf
What "not-so-great treatment" by the arabs are you talking about
We did not but anyone in gas chambers or start racial wars , Europe did
Jews were the most privileged groups in our countries, go to Egypt or Syria and see the neighborhoods they used to live in
Literally the prestigious parts of every major city, not some ghettos
Jews and even Christian minorities migration to the Arab world existed for centuries running away from atrocities committed against them in the northern part of this earth
This rewriting of history to transfer guilt to Arabs by Europeans/whites who actually committed racial segregation is beyond evil
It comes down to most Ashkenazim being left wing utopian socialist dreamers and most mizrahim having roots from arab countries and know how it is to live with muslims, they understand their mentality and how they have to be dealt with.
zaxx19 Wow, that's a big good lie ! Tunisian jews are part of Tunisia and NEVER ever someone has asked them to leave ! They have been part of the nationalis movements and in the first government of Bourguiba there has been 2 yehudi ministers and a lot more members in the parliament. In the fifties the palestine conflict began and they feared the effects of the conflict. In the same time France offered them french passeports and Israel offered them money, either ways it is a better life than in a poor Tunisia. They have never been insecure in Tunisia, It's mostly economical, stop spreading lies
I've never said that. Don't say 'you' to me including me with other people, you know nothing about me. I only gave FACTS about one situation wich is Tunisia.
I sold out the indigenous people of North Africa ? HAHAHAHAHAHAHA You are so confused it's hilarious :) You are not worth having a discussion with, you're too confused.
So the Mizrahim are more anti-Arab / anti-Islam, and the Ashkenazim are more pro-Arab / Islam...same here in the USA, I guess
Also, Israel needed them for cheap lqabor, as the Palestinians were resisting their conquerors.
if you want to interview real likud supporters go to the periferia not tel aviv.
If you put that woman as PM of israel at 10:00, there'll be peace within 1 year
she's is sexy and witty .
xplosivelilly It's rather hard to brainwash people in a democracy with an open press -- including Arabic press. For all Israel's faults, and it does have many, it does at least have a very vibrant and open dialogue where opposing viewpoints can be heard and debated without fear.
maybe once upon a time israel was like that, but however now the country is slowly turning into another middle eastern country as the ultra right wing is slowly taking over the hearts and minds of israelis. Israel only has rights for Jews, and Arabs are considered as 'guests' rather than actual human beings who deserve some sort of respect. it is an aparthied nation where ultra fanatical jews live separately on the arab's own land, and are protected. so no, i don't think israel should deserve any sort of credit where free speech is concerned. The problems with the Arabs go back 100's of years in addition to colonialism. Israel however, only being born in '48, has caused tremendous conflict.
xplosivelilly Yes and no, like you, I too am very concerned (to put it lightly) at the growth of right-wing politics like that of Naftali Bennett and it is true as well that Israel has shifted rightward. But, f/e, just this past week the Palestinian winner of Arab Idol had a concert in Israel attended by 10,000 people, including Palestinian members of the Israeli Parliament -- despite Mohammad Assaf having a couple of very nationalistic Palestinian songs, no one stopped him from performing or from people going to his concert, including Arab-Israeli Parliamentarians who are often and openly harshly critical of Israel, its government and Zionism. If you read Haaretz, one of Israel's most respected papers, it is full of criticism of the occupation and Israeli policy. So to regard the country or its populace as entirely brainwashed or reactionary is simply unfair and untrue.
@@xplosivelilly I shouldn't be replying to a 5 year old comment, but I'm genuinely intrigued how after listening to her speech, which justifies a right-wing, hawkish approach to the Palestinian problem, you came to the conclusion that "she will make peace within 1 year" followed by the typical left-leaning rhetoric about apartheid and general Israel-bashing.
Her position, though spoken very eloquently, is basically in line with that of the Israeli right... which has been dominating Israel politics for the last few decades.
You're right that Israel is becoming "another Middle Eastern country" (not sure why this is supposed to be a bad thing, especially to someone who's throwing around words like "colonialism" and "apartheid", considering that Israel and Jews are routinely accused of not being middle eastern enough by critics), but this is happening for precisely the same reasons that this woman explained. In other words, everything you are saying supports the left-wing position, except for your conclusion. Don't get me wrong; I agree with the conclusion, but I really don't understand how you got there.
Mizrahim lived under Muslims. They should know.
Steve yeah they know its Palestinians land..
It could also be asked why do the educated and secular vote left, while the less educated and religious vote right,
Ashkenazi Haredim, who are mostly uneducated,and very religious vote right.
But......
Historically, the left parties were not accepting of the Mizrahim, and this led to a feeling of alienation, much like how Republicans alienated American Jews
The ultra orthodox parties, although considered right wing, aren’t really right wing. Not economically and not in matters of state and security. They’re actually more left winged when it comes to any matter other than religion
That woman Dikla had some wisdom to spread.
hmmm - is this what you call wisdom or colonialism. She's simplified an incredibly complex and tragic situation. Shes also very condescending + ignorant about Palestinian Arabs.
Let me answer you:
Mizrahim were discriminated by the left wing party Mapai (the labor party)
In 1977 the Likud rose to power and this is the moment Mizrahim gained power. They tend to vote Likud because "that's what their parents voted"
Voting left is like almost a privilege in this country. They feel like the left doesn't care about them.
I vote Meretz
Around 4:00 it is mentioned
"I don't wanna give a reductionist view" but it is quite simple lol, the ones from Europe carry European ideas, the ones from the middle-east do not, simple really lol and leftism in general is a very European thing and quite unique to Europe and later to (parts of) Asia
You must be a crypto trader or investor
Love to read these discussions...everything is new to me...a new angle to "see" things...
how can you tell who's who (ashkenazi mizrachi) ? they all look middle-eastren to me.
ashkenazi - European/white background (from Germany for example). Google Bar Rafaeli she's really Ashkenazi
Mizrachi - Arab/Medditeranian Jew (from Morocco, Spain, or Italy for example)
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yeah but in that video i couldnt tell. anyway bar refaeli and other blonde jews are rare... even in europe.. most of the jews has black hair or dark brown
Mike Leonardo Really? does the guy in 3:26 seem middle-eastern to me? I'm just curious.And yeah you're right, the only blonde people we have in Israel are mostly of Russian/Polish descent.
+Mike Leonardo lol it depends, i look hardcore russian and i know many people that are like that too
italin jews and also spain are ashknzi
alot of mizrahi jews came from spain 2000 years ago to all arab countries
Because the mizrahim remember what the Muslims did to them in Arab countries.
We don't want to Live with our enemies in the same country
Mirai Sensei that’s so stupid nothing in history books say that arabs dod any thing to you and you do live with arabs in your country right now 21% of Israel are arab
@@majdabohsen7197 just read about the farhud.
they beat the father of my grand mother he came home full of blood after he just wanted to come back home from the shul.
and they killed the uncle of my grandmother and so many people they hanged in the middle of the street.
that's why the jews ran away to israel, the arab pogroms made israel population grow in more than 60% because of it.
How come.you never interview Russian Israelis?
There are 1m of them.in Israel yet you never interview them. Is it because of.language barriers?
At 7:05 there is coherent answer.
Ashkenazim having historical experience from Europe, can't comprehend the Arab mentality.
Basically they live in what should be - rainbows, unicorns, people holding hands - instead of reality.
That's a bit strange to me, considering many of the Ashkenazim have relatives who perished in the Shoah. You would think the descendants of camp survivors would not see the world as all rainbows and unicorns....
@@dm-gq5uj The survivors were rescued by Europeans and Americans in the end.
Being relative to victim is not the same experience. Also they lived in peace in Europe for generations, certainly from the Enlightenment period - the NAZI part was brutal but it was very short lived, so their historical experience is more positive.
Arab culture was more harsh experience over the ages, I guess.
Overall they might be more cautious towards Europeans but see Arabs as not as dangerous.
I think bottom line, every lefty (upholding altruist dogma) has soft spot for people who are losers and since Palestinians are losing...
@@danielbowman7226 Good points.
@efopo Never said it was or should have been. Winning the war was the goal oc. Winning the war saved those people and many more.
@efopo Of course. Winning the war = liberating concentration camps anyway....and much more. That's why Winning the War was the right goal to have. Liberating death camps, few knew about was marginal PR issue.
the couple with the mizrahi woman and ashkenazi guy give such a good answer
it is not only origin , it is also has to do with education , belief system and many factors
10:03...I love her response. She understands it. Both of them.. This couple gets it and I'm starting to understand this whole situation with Corey's videos.
Side note: Wow she's beautiful 🥰 no I'm not a lesbian😒
13:03...this person also makes sense.
Hugs to them.
I thought the same.
And yes, she is really beautiful and and the last one also seems to be the type of person I would love to spend some time with, talking about all kinds of stuff.
Mizrahim are from zhat region and know Arabs and Muslims well that is why more right. Ashkanasim are European and more naive and trusting.
you must be idiot to post such comment !!! you cannot prove that Mizrahim had been persecuted by the arabs during several centuries !!!!! especially when you find that the golden age of the jewish community was in Andalucia during the islamic rule !!!! shame on you ,,,, totale ingratitude !!!!! how many jews had been killed during their residence among the Arabs? i am waiting for an accurate answer
The reason could be that the majority of Ashkenazi Jews have European or North American passports. and therefore are not very concerned if things go wrong inside Israel, whereas Mizrahi Jews have no backup plan and need to vote for the hardline political party to ensure their future is safe.
The majority of Ashkenazi Jews in Israel do not have an either a European or an American passport of any kind only a small minority do. I don't know where you got that information. The vast majority; 90% of Ahskenazi Jews came directly from Europe to Israel either prior to 1948 or in the 50s as displaced persons or from what was or was soon to become soviet union and are not entitled to a passport. The amount of American Jews who emigrated there in tiny numbers, mostly from the 70s onwards a big increase in the 2000s barely accounts for 1% of Israelis and under 5% of Ashkenazim.
Because Sephardim/Mizrahim grew up with Arabs so they know how they act ashkénaze are from Europe were it’s very left
That's my (moroccan) girl !
inchallah, with likeminded leaders, they'll be peace.
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she is not rooting for peace at all - did you understand what she was saying? We educate Israeli-arabs too much! FFS
Excellent joke by Corey at 3:30! And Yigal didn't even bat an eye (wow). :D
Because Ashkenazim are European and socialism is a European idea.
+Jay Bartgis if it's a european idea then it's exclusively for europeans to think it? ISIS has an idea that attracts people from around the world. also, there are non europeans who are culturally european and europeans who are culturally more turkish/ugric/north african. where's your logic?
+Jay Bartgis I have heard that jews of germany weren't really into socialism but the eastern european ones were more.
+boliussa Then you heard wrongly, since Karl Marx was a German Jew and so was Rosa Luxemburg.
Martin Ledermann that doesn't give you a percentage. btw karl marx while of jewish descent, was baptised, and was an atheist that was very much against jews - there is a book "a world without jews" that quotes marx on jews.
boliussa I'm an atheist German Jew myself, you think I wouldn't know the biography of Karl Marx? You simply missed my point, ie. that it's not necessarily the truth that Ashkenazis in Russia or Poland were relatively more likely to be pro-socialist than the ones in Weimar Germany.
I would guess that in general sfardim/mizrachim are more religious or traditional than ashkenazim who are usually quite religious or completely secular.
11:10 Is that half a joint I see lying there on the table? And their constant giggling and laughter sure gave them away... :)
its not right
the question is wrong
No one is going to address the split at 11:19
Is it because Mizrahim have known Muslims longer?
I think that simply comes from the fact that Mizrahi com from conservative and religious environments, and Ashkenazi come from liberal democracy envirment. I guesss that leaves an impact on their discion making. even today in Israel the mizhari seem to be more cultural and religious than the ashkanazies.
there are no Mizrahi and Ashkenazi, those are illusions. we are all one people. Am Israel. Yeladim Shel Israel.
***** stop trolling, cuz your not that good at it.
***** i'll bet you can't even tell the difference between Ashkenazi and Mizrahi you fucking troll!
Public Subway your own words show YOUR stupidity.
Jabu Jolly THANK YOU! why can't there be more like you :D
do you still live in the territories?
Jabu Jolly i am also American born. (my parents came here for my fathers work) i am currently commuting between the U.S. and Israel you are welcome to come visit me anytime.
peace onto you my friend.
One of the two girls was smoking a joint
Very common
Can someone show me some data that the premise of the question is correct? I am not disputing it. I would just like to see some data. I heard this before. I always thought it was because a lot of Mizahim were generally treated poorly in the Middle East and wanted to been seen as strong for defense (or go on the offense) against Arabs. This video now makes me think I was wrong.
You know how shallow the knowledge in UA-cam comments is when such a comment doesn't get an answer for 8 years.
2:00 that exactly the beauty of Israel and secularism, anyone can support whatever they believe is right. Whether it is actually morally or ethically right is a while other story and whether their looking at the whole picture is also another story, most people just focus on the shit that happens now an ignore the political climate that brought about all this nonsense.
its funny that the supposed general conception is that Ashkenazi vote left and protest against Israel and the idf. In islamic propaganda that tries to discredit the jews they paintIsrael as a European colony that is ruled by europeans(referring to askenazis).
Can someone explain the difference between right wing and left wing? I did google it but it's a bit vague.
+Mo. Nawaflih It has three biggest dimensions in Israel. In one dimension left means prioritizing peace with Arabs over security and right means prioritizing security.
In the second dimensions left means more social democrat and right means more capitalist republic.
In the third dimension left means more secular and right means more religious.
There are exceptions where a religious party can be socialist (and not just towards Jews) or a secular party can prioritize security but generally the media and politicians are trying to sell us the idea of right vs left without all the intricacies.
Anton Adelson Thank you
+Mo. Nawaflih In general, left means that you want the government to be more involved in everything. More rules, regulations, etc. Right means the opposite obviously, less regulations, more "personal freedom".
Alex K. It's a bit different in Israel. Read my response.
Alex K. That is absolute nonsense. Extent of government involvement is a separate dimension. You can be authoritarian or libertarian right wing.
It's like this in America too with our Jews like 75%+ vote left wing and ironically they are all basically Ashkenazim with the exception of orthodox Jews who mostly vote right and are Ashkenazim.
7:45 I think this guy got it right. Jews who came from Islamic countries and lived under centuries of oppression there better understand the supremacist worldview of Islam, and know the futility of peace with Muslims. Peace in this context can only be won through strength.
Are you kidding me? Jews in Europe had it much worse than Jews in the Middle East. Yet Ashkenazi jews do not display the shame and disassociation with their oigins than Mizrahi do when it comes to where they came from.
Haha, when did the Arabs do the Holocaust? The Ashkenazis suffered that faith in Europe yet they love Europe and Europeans? Or specifically, the Germans!
My wife is Sefardic Jewish origin,I am proud Serbian...and I love my wife...we have two son's....what are they? I will tell ....best people of best mix in the hole world.
I have been in war back in 1999 against shqiptar KLA,,NATO..and I have defending my country...and in war I killed those terrorist with my rifle...but I do not hate shqiptar(albanian) as people at all...also Israelis fight Arabs but there is no hate,neither love...so finaly I have to say that I wouled go again to liberate my Kosovo province from terrorist and bring it back to Serbia...cose my people originated from there....also Israelis naturaly feel need to protect they land ,ancient lend of Israel...and Arabs (palestinian) naturaly wish to liberete palestine...and now ho is in right and ho is in wrong ? Ha? GOD know.....and people are all the same,for sure...they wish to rise children,be happy and enjoy in life...so only those tursty for power,money...etc are cousing problems to all of us.
Fuck them all! Enjoy life and be good man or women..love God...and thats it.
Regards !
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Wow that girl said it perfectly, the Middle East is a hardcore place to live, people either see it there way or the Highway, the Mizrahim know that, that's why they vote right wing(even though until now the leaders have al been Ashkenazin), they know the Arab we'll never accept them and by occupation they mean all the land not just the West Bank(which literally is the military name the Jordanians gave it to distinguish it from mainland Jordan), they know that and have come to realize the Arab will never accept them, but the Ashkenazim live in there own delusion as if it's just Paris and everything is very good and nice, it's seems they haven't grasped the reality that this is the Middle East and not Europe.
the pm was ashkenazim but there were alot of people who were and are mizrahi in the israeli goverment.
@@shaboki802 yes I know there are many Mizrahim in government but the top person meaning the PM has always been a Ashkenazim, bit I guess it might change with Ayelet Shaked in the future or maybe even Gideon Saar right now if Netanyahu is kicked out.
yeah i agree, but lets be real right now its not cause of rasism its just how it is.
@@shaboki802 I never said it's about racism, the Ashkenazim-Sephardic/Mizrahim divide ended long ago, it probably only exists in the Haredim today, but it would be great for a Mizrahim to become PM, especially a female Mizrahim.
that only because the Mizrachim are more close to the Judisem. also religion Ashkenazi will vote right too.
By the way I'm living in Israel
proud jew
generally in tlv people vote left.in other areas people vote for whatever they want...
Can anyone share the link to the article mentioned in this video. Unfortunately, I don't speak Hebrew, can't google it.
Mostly because the first gens of Mizrahim repatriating knew what happened to Jews in Islamic Nations.
9:22 she’s so pretty and intelligent
6:53 the best response from them...
15:02 Centerists got much more than than the left yet they still look like 3 times smaller in this diagram than the left, and even from the arabs who got only 11.
I will attempt to answer this as a Mizrahi living in New York. Ashkenazi come from a background of pain and suffering. Rabbis have always had strict control over them and any movement was to get away from that. Their "enlightenment" Era was crafted to escape strict rabbinical hold over them and to establish a European assimilation movement so that they could feel more in control and embrace more liberal ways of living and thinking, whether they decided to stay yiddish or learn their surrounding languages and culture. This has been progressing, giving birth to many different Ashkenazi Jewish experimental groups. Communism has been the latest in this liberal utopian escape. "The Great Experiment" which miserably failed and has killed more people than any other movement or war in history. Yes, Communism is the biggest political murder of ALL TIME.
Mizrahi on the other hand have always been integrated into their respective societies. Speaking the language, knowing the cuisine, and most importantly, contributing to the livelihood of their homelands. There is and was no rabbinic control to eschew things and mislead the large groups of people, especially when it came to cooperation with the land and its people. Mizrahi have been allowed to live the lives they wanted without fear from the outside, the law. With that said, Mizrahi feel very comfortable in"conservative" valued spaces. Islamic/ Arabic culture calls for the harmony of moral living which is all that we know to "vote" for. It's our nature. Mizrahi are much more behind the scenes than Ashkenazim, who seem to covet attention whether good or bad. Mizrahi like the status quo and don't mind being humble.
I think it's exactly the opposite, the right, they know what happens when you don't have control of the freedom to control your destiny, leftists, they are arrogant that they should control the destiny of others, that they know best.
But I agree with you communism is the worst. Leftist ideas are dangerous. To take away individual rights. Every Jew should know better. I think it's also the constant manipulation of the left to say Nazi is right wing. When they are and were SOCIALISTS.
@C caymer they are largely secular. I sometimes wonder if you are playing devil's advocate, or are two people writing on your account?
@louis613 Excellent response
"Mizrahi on the other hand have always been integrated into their respective societies. Speaking the language, knowing the cuisine, and most importantly, contributing to the livelihood of their homelands." Sorry but this is absolutely comical, are you Jewish? Because this reads exactly like what an antisemetic European would say. Jewish people in Europe WERE well integrated, often spoke multiple European languages, and were usually more educated than the non-Jewish people in their homelands and contributed plenty to the livelihood and especially the CULTURE of the countries they lived in. Ashkenazim were often at the forefront of science, maths, the arts and so on in their European countries, they made up a significant part of the intelligentsia which is PRECISELY what European antisemites tried to use as a weapon against them and claim that the reason so many of the top doctors, philosophers, writers and artists in their countries were Jewish was because there was some massive conspiracy going on and Jewish people were "power hungry" and wanted to "take control of the world". People like Freud and Kafka and all the intellectual and artistic Jews who were successful were often used as points to "prove" this. Universities in Poland, Germany and other countries looked at the fact that a large percentage of the people graduating from their universities were Jewish and literally implemented quotas to restrict Jewish people from attending universities above a certain percentage because they believed them to be "over-represented". Jewish people were mainly established in metropolitan urban centres so the poorer gentiles in the rural areas associated them with so-called "metropolitan decadence" and this is where a lot of hatred, jealousy and antisemetic stereotypes came from. There were plenty of well off Jewish families who had been that way for many generations, and they had their apartments, belongings, paintings, etc confiscated by the nazis. So they too were people who had been educated, integrated and part of the middle and upper class and were all of a sudden forced into poverty which they had never known before. You seem extremely uneducated on the history of Jewish people in Europe. Despite antisemitism they managed to thrive in their countries and leave a huge footprint on the cultures of the places they lived. All this came crashing down around them in the 1930s but that doesn't mean that prior to that they were not speaking the language of the country they lived in or not "knowing its cuisine" and didn't "contribute to the livelihood" of their countries, I've never read something so utterly ridiculous said about Jewish people by somebody who is supposedly Jewish. There are literally neo-nazis nowadays in Europe who talk like this and say Jewish people never contributed anything and were just a punch of "parasites" but okay. They've never read a book in their lives either.
The terms left and right have no meaning in this discussion.
Soon there will be no left no right but Liberals vs Authoritarians
wow mate im following you for a few years now and i just see this video , the comments of the people are way more intresting then i expected !
in 4:20 they gave the most intresting and honest answers ! the leftish Kurdish guy who spoke about the Mizrahim and told the trueth about the history and didnt try to be one sided
he is a guy that if all the leftist and rightist were like him , we could negotiate more and be less left and right and more together
The reason is two folds. First, the ashkenazi brought kibbutzim and communism /left ideology with them in the 1880s and after that. Secondly, until the late 1970's, Prime Ministers were all ashkinazi and during that time and afterwards (much less now), ashkenazi looked down upon sephardic and mizrahi jews as peasants and uneducated and didnt want to mix with them in overall society. So all the peopel who grew up during that time who felt discriminated against vy the dominant ashkinazi society (who were dominant in academic, gov, business) voted for the other side.
The second reason : Since sephardic and mizarahi jews come from arab countries, they are aware of how the muslim world think, how they act, so they tend to be more hawkish than the naive ashkinazi. They understand that the arab world only respect strength so the people who believe in this vote for the more hawkish party. In addition, not counting the ultra orthodx, sepahrdic are more traditional, more religious than the ashkinazim and the Left in Israel traditionally is more secular/ less religious than the right.
Man, this is a really deep insight into internal israeli politics
it's true because our grandparents suffered from all over the arab world.
benjamin Mlak lol..even in Palestinian before illegal state Israel established by zionists the jews lived peacefully with Christian and Muslims.. If you don't forget it was the European romans who killed jews in the name of Crusade and it was European Christian who killed 6 million jews in germany, Muslims never attacked jews..and all the arab jews came to Israel to established Israel, its not torture in their own country, even u can find Jewish in iran also in Parliament
@@honolulu7793 thats sad. Jews never remember that day. They only see bad sides of arab people. Not all jewish i mean,but majority of israeli jews.
The ultra-rightist kahanists Otzma LeYisrael have 0 mandates so Israelis are not radical at all
TagMahirTzedek
May god bless you and keep you far away from Israel
TagMahirTzedek
I dont want no one ENOFRICNG me any religious laws, see? And I think, that if there is a big group of people that agree to work in shabat, they should have this opportunity. You understand, why I'm against halaha or other religious system? It have to be your personal, private, individual choice. In a religious state there is only a KAHAL, a TRIBE above the individual. Thanks but no thanks. Live and let live, that's my Tora on one leg.
if you have a heart attack on shabbat you are screwed
*****
Methodius, I will have a word with Tag Mahir without a help from you.
TagMehirTzedek
Sorry rabbanic ruling is mans ruling
Ashkenazis are European Jews so it is normal they are more social democratic. Others are more conservative like Turks, Arabs, Persians. Every two groups carried the character of the land they came from.
Mizrahi are most likely how the Twelve Tribes Of Israel looked
I am here because the question is asked from Bangladesh, where I reside.
Wow. Shalom brother. Toddah Rabbah for the amazing work you do & these interesting awesome interviews. May HaShem bless you.
are there clear statistics about that?
You present the question like you did a research or somthing and it's wrong.
I hope one day we will meet and have an interview.
Paul Ramle took the words right took the words right out of me !
WOW, very interesting, one land, two peoples
I hope your right, they seem so far apart.
11:10 on the table, i know why they kept giggling
"A conservative is a liberal who got mugged."
The lady at min 9 spoke the truth. She summed up the problem and the solution. As long as charlatans are using the rift between the people to secure their rule, the rift will never heal. It's what I call a catch 22.
in the market you will find a lot of right wing voters , if you go to north tel aviv you will find a lot of left wing voters ...more than anything else.
looks like they left a 'roach' on the table....
a "roach" is what's left from a joint.....
yes the butt of a joint we call a roach(in america):)))
It is the same in France a mizhrai was candidate of a right party and all the ashkenazim leaders told not to vote for him
I think the gentleman's perception from the 7 minute mark is good- that the "rules" being played by are that of the middle east, not Europe. But that raises a broader thought, which is that over time "rules" are pressured by modernity, something Ashkenazim from around the world have far more exposure to than the Mizrahim, who live surrounded by others who are only in recent years experiencing the forces of modernity: Industrial Revolution forces which affect feminist forces and religious norms and the choices science newly offers which solve problems which traditionalists are dogmatic about for practical reasons which no longer exist.
So yes, the politics of the right pervade most of the middle east, and when contrasted by a New York Jew like myself seem understandable in context over there in Israel, but nevertheless underevolved, purposefully so, by dogmatic forces. Again, this shows the unique way in which the Enlightenment forces are fought in Israel.
11:15 you filmed them high as fuck you can see their joint there thats why they are laughing all the time hahaha
left = naive
Around 11:00, is that a joint on the table? Thats why they laugh?
"We were taught to vote to" Is the most disturbing expression in this video.
theres very little difference in foreign policty and security issues between the mainstream right and left in israel.
wtf im ashkenazi
and all my friends are ashkenazi as well
and we all vote right
i never heard such a none sense
Many people in the video agree with you lol.
could be because some eshkanzi were communists.socialists so they vote left. the ones who had lived in arab lands perhaps have developed animosity but this has changed a lot
I hope one day Israel get a President like Madame Dikla. Let Mizrahim lead Likud. Benjamin Netenyahu dont know the mentality of this area.
The Likud is full of Mizrahi members. Check out Miri Regev
Nice Israeli's! Example for all Middle Eastern nations in many ways.
How do the Sephardim vote?
sepharadim are mizrahi mostly.
@@kusimashelachem7197 bullshit...Sephardim are not Mizrahi.! Sephardim (the true and real Jews in Europe)got kicked out out Spain in 1492 and later in 1494-6 from Portugal to other countries, they assimilated into other societies and some of their customs!! and still that doesn't make them an Arab or a Mizrahim unlike the Azhkenaz since they are converted Kazars.....
@@jpmastertech you not answered his question. But why you mad?? They never hurt you right?
@@anzhelamagdalene6472 I don't see any question addressed to me.! and my family lived in Israel before it was Israel and we don't look nothing like Mizrahi at all...and I experienced and lived big time racism there!!
@@jpmastertech To be honest Only Mezrahi are real Jews!
I’m surprised. I thought it would be quite the reverse.
That women at around 9:50 was easy on the eyes and very intelligent. Damn.
Mizrahim are more religious too, and religion mostly goes with conservatism (right wing).
true
And who are the jews that came from Israel, cause those three groups are converts ?
Corey is ruining these videos by subverting what people are saying with completely made up subtitles. It’s almost better that he makes no video rather than make up translations.
did you notice the guy that says hes jewish yet he is half Persian and smthing else and he says the arabs are fighting against him yet they are the samething .the power is for money.
They R Haters Persian jews. He means persian jewish. In arabs are not persians.
this is not truth. you just makes a problem between the jewish people
Why are so many of them unwilling to express their opinion?
Because he asked people in Tel Aviv, which is a leftist dictatorship. If you express right wing opinions over there, the PC cult will hunt you.
In the periphery of Israel people express right wing opinions much easily
Because the premise of the question is a broad coarse generalization.
3:25 dude feels like he needs a hug