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What about the Gun EZ / Gun Blastor, the ReZEL, the Rick Dias (and his brother Dijeh), the Bawoo, etc...? These are also very good candidates. On the other hand, I personally think Re-GZ, should not be here since it saw so limited production -- instead of being a Mass Production as your video titled (besides, it's full name is "Refined Gundam Zeta", not Mass-produced Gundam Zeta). If Re-GZ is qualified for a mass-production machine, what about the two Z-Pluses, three FAZZ, three Mk-II and many V Gundams? Oh and I must mention that despite ReZEL's full name, it at least saw genuine mass production and variations.
speaking off reactor power, I've always wondered why you even need a reactor of sufficient power to use beam weapons that employ their own batteries. seems to defeat the point? could you explain why this is?
That's probably not always the case, e.g. ZZ's head cannon or Sazabi's waist cannon are all connected to the body's generator, or in the case of V2, it's wings definitely eats a lot of energy. In any case, generator output actually is a minor point in Gundam saga, not sure why it's mentioned here either.
"However, despite being a more than capable machine, its pilots always had the bad luck of running into, simply put, more capable machines." Poor, poor Re-GZ. The GM Sniper II always seems to run into the same problem.
What are you talking about? Zeon ALWAYS kicks the feddies butts whenever the Gundam isn't around. Even the Zaku F2 had a better showing than the GM Kai.
ya, you might want to watch UC 83 over again. most of the Suits the Remnants had in space got taken out pretty damn fast. aside from a few exceptions like the Gellgooogs and MAs.
I didn't even know about that. But I''m guessing it was meant to work in tandem with the Unicorn Gundam but I'm guessing they weren't thinking of mass producing a souped up GM with better performance probably since it's costly to make more of it.
Considering their debut; i always thought they were overhauled and overtuned Jegans, enough to merit being renamed. Kinda like how the US's late WW2 tanks/airplanes were mass produced until a line was made exclusively for Special Operations.
Yes I would want them all to be mass produce but I believe it will never work for the federation where they relied or cost effective mobile suits where they do not effect there assembly lines that is how Zeon lost the war they relied on mobile armors that were so big and so different they could not produce enough frontline mobile suits and maybe if delaz did not nuke their entire fleet then they may have seen a wider production
Sadly,. this is one of those times that Tomino completely pooched it looking to future technology. There is fundamentally no reason why the Back Weapons System could not be an autonomous drone system whose on-board computer could maneuver while being undocked from the mobile suit. In fact, giving the Back Weapons System the ability to engage in combat while undocked would act as a force multiplier, making it a far deadlier alternative to a transforming mobile suit.
@@BrooklynRedLeg better than that, why not make it just a backpack instead? i never understood why go with a full disposeable BP, when all it needed to boost the speed of the machine. seriously, its one thing if it was an earth only unit, but this thing was used in space, where it didnt really add anything, when the TV only RX-78-2 +B Parts makes more sense, you know you screwed up the design...
@@marcosdheleno if a certain manga is to be believed(considered canon): apparently, it was based on a half-baked "Fake" Zeta, and the BWS was mostly meant to be "disposable", where it's primary role was meant only to allow it to cruise into the battle field, and give it a "first strike" capability, while the base unit itself is fully combat capable on it's own, but whether if it could last long in battle was COMPLETELY dependent on the pilot's skill. because unfortunately, the engineers behind the Re-GZ failed to account for the top of the line Geara Dogas fielded by Neo Zeon(typical inter-departmental rivalry within Anaheim, between the original EFF team, and the post-war absorbed Zeonic/Zimmad team) apparently, according to some sources, the second Re-GZ's pilot decided to forego the entire BWS, and just use it as if it was a Jegan, and use a Base Jabber instead.
@@duelgundam that's the thing, what you said makes alot of sense... what doesnt is WHY, they had already done something like this before with the MKII gundam, turning it into the super gundam. there's really no reason to add such a convoluted system, instead of just making the g-defender unit better.
I think I’m seeing a pattern in mobile suit development. Feds: Hey, let’s make a gm/gundam type thing and hope it’s ok and cheap to make Result: Way too many things that may or may not be gundams that end up having only so few units made due to high costs. Zeon: Hey, let’s make a mean looking zaku. Result: NO ZAKU BOY, NO ZAKU Zeon amphibious ms development team:WE NEED WOBLY ARMS GOD DAMMIT! Result:WOBLY ARMS GOD DAMMIT!
Plan B: just build a gundam and stick an emo kid in it. Wins the war every time (but we have to let the kid think he stole the gundam on his own, so put only like 2 security guards around it tops)
fishpop pretty much except the mk2 was based off the rx-78 design, the hazel tho is just a gm Quel. The gm custom is actually based off the gm command & gm sniper 2 both from late into the one year war. Gundams and GMs are split into different categories but all take parts and aspects from the og Gundam.
It really is a shame that the Zaku III isn't getting a Revive from what we know. I'd love to see it with modern engineering and maybe even some of those optional equipment loadouts we saw in the video.
Yeah totally. Of the six kits from the 1999 run, four got revives and I can pick up a Damashii or RG version of the Z'Gok (or at least Char's in the case of the RG). Zaku III, no such luck. Easily near the top of my "Please Revive" list.
My hype is all for the Zaku III Mashymre's custom unit is seriously just one of my favorite designs from ZZ, if not in general Gundam, and the massive compatibility of the Zaku III for different equipment really makes it stand out.
Really the only reason the poor Zaku 3 didn't see true MP was because it just on its own lacked firepower. But the funny thing is, if you wanted to give it that firepower, in theory you could have probably made parts for it to do everything the Doven could have (although they'd need to have extra reactors to make up for it).
@@nightlock826 they probably laughed about won battles in the mess halls daily. Fkn low reactor, oversimplified design>overcomplicated, excessive energy, not modular.
Another one to mention might be the RX-160 Byarlant, which was an attempt by Titans engineers to produce a Mobile Suit capable of atmospheric flight which did not rely on external booster systems or transformation gimmicks. One of the trial production Byarlants was piloted by Jerid Messa during the Gryps War, and it was intended to be mass-produced, but was passed over after it became clear that its armaments - a pair of integrated beam guns in its hands, plus two beam sabers - were not versatile enough to be useful. At least one example of an enhanced variant, the RX-160S Byarlant Custom, was produced after the war by the EFF, and fought in defense of Torrington Base when Zeon remnants attacked it in UC 0096. Another good candidate for this sort of list would be the RMS-154 Barzam. Although not strictly an ace machine, the Barzam was an intended replacement for the aging RGM-79R GM II in Federation and Titans service. Based loosely on the design of the RX-178 Gundam Mk-II, the Barzam had some characteristic Titans embellishments, including a mono-eye and a custom beam rifle, though it could also use weapons intended for the Gundam Mk-II, RMS-106 Hi-Zack, RMS-108 Marasai and GM II. Though it was a reasonably high performance machine, it was considered "too ordinary" in its capabilities by Federation and Titans leadership, and never replaced the GM II as intended. Those few that were produced during its limited production run were relegated primarily to second-line duties and training.
There are errors in this. First the Byarlant was produced in a 3 more units pace version production from Jerid's(all of them are seen escorting reccoa when she sunk the dogosse guat). Then also the Barzam was just excellent, it was just introduced too late. It was one of the few Titans MS reused by the EFSF. Look at the BarGM, it was ome of the unit used in combination WITH GM III in the federation ranks
@@marcomeinnel6955 The Barzam was more a Gelgoog than a GM II situation. It was a great unit but it was simply produced way too late and in too few numbers to actually do something. The Gelgoog would've been the Gundam Killer if most of Zeon's best Pilots weren't dead.
Definitely the Zaku III. I think what made the Zaku II and its Ace Pilots so dangerous was that each one was different and you never really knew what you were up against, as the MS' could be modified to be drastically different from one another. You might be fighting a Zaku with enhanced thrusters that can zip around you one second then get ambushed by one with two bazooka's and thicker armor.
I love the gm custom, it's got such a simple yet cool looking design, has some great capabilities as of its time, and it's a good mobile suit to use in mobile suit Gundam: encounters in space for the ps2. I wish that it did get a little more love in the series, but with it being inspiration for the gm quel that's pretty cool too.
Speaking of Doven Wolf, isn't it in a technical sense a Mass Production version of Gundam Mk V, while Bawoo is a mass produced version of Project Zeta (possibly S Gundam)? If so, this really makes one wonder why Feds/Anaheim failed at mass producing some good machine, while First Neo Zeon is able to do so.
Hey man just dropping in to say you have some excellent and informative videos. I am currently writing a (rather lengthy) fanfiction about an attempt in U.C. 0111 to restore the Republic of Zeon and find myself frequently dropping in to gain ideas and information about various suits and whatnot. Keep up 'em coming!
I can think of a few others that would’ve been even more overwhelming if mass produced, just imagine how overwhelming it would be to face mass produced versions of the unicorn or the wing zero. I’d be more scared of an mp wing zero since wing zero has greater firepower than the zz without the drawback of severely draining the mobile suit’s power through repeated use
i don't usually leave likes on videos, but this one had so much good information i had to pause halfway and say how much i love it. Keep it up man! do more of these on lesser known MS from AoZ and Sentinel!!
Zz gundam had 3 core fighters with probably 3 different reactors might be why it had 7k KW. Mass production version had forgone the docking of the fighters so had 1/3 the output
Thats a lot of saying Hyaku Shiki Kai now say Hyaku Shiki Kai 5 times like Hyaku Shiki Kai, Hyaku Shiki Kai, Hyaku Shiki Kai, Hyaku Shiki Kai, Hyaku Shiki Kai
Ultimately, my favorite from Sentinel is the Zeta Plus. It's the only Gunpla I've custom painted. It's Flat Black with twin gattling cannons mounted on the shield (A1 model) . Sentinel is amazing, Top Gun, with mobile suits. I'll look into this interesting sounding Theta Plus, thanks for furthering the obsession, comrades.
I love the GM Custom. I wish it would get a new MG. The old MG is so bad now. The Doven Wolf sits at the #2 slot for models I want to see get a RE/100 (behind only the Kshatriya). It is such a cool looking suit. One unit I feel is missing from this list is the Stark Jegan.
actually, the aliance made a some variants of the forbidden gundam, for underwater operations, and they were full gundams, but there were also a few "mass produced" versions as well. most importantly the forbidden vortex is said to be mass produced(or at the very least, limited production).
well with the re gz, in it's defense, performance is a mix of pilot and machine and with amuro it was able to handle the jadg goda easily, sazabi might have been too much but that had char in it, with caira well its another story
I think he was only able to beat the Jagd Doga because of his greater combat experience and because he was a true newtype. if the skills of the pilots were equal, the re-gz would not have stood a chance against a funnel-equipped mobile suit like the Jagd Doga. Char shared the psycho-frame technology used to build the Nu Gundam because he knew that any mobile suit without it stood no chance against the Sazabi.
I'd say the Doven Wolf would make the most sense to mass-produce. You essentially have one platform, the Doven Wolf, and just have to design various attachments, weapons and upgrade kits for it, in order to tackle various objectives and enemies. Going on a scouting mission? Slap some sensor modules and long-range weapons on the damn thing! You need indirect artillery support? Put so many missles and targeting systems on it that it becomes impolite! Frontline Combat? Beam Sabers and rapid-fire, medium range weaponry! Attacking a Space Station? Bolt some grabbing claws on it, some missile racks, and maybe a beam rifle if you're feeling generous, then use the claws to get a large enough asteroid and... *ACHEM* I think you get the idea...
Zaku III is a great mass production unit in concept. Mass production requires a certain ease of use, while still having solid performance, and the implimentation of INCOM weaponry and the quasi-psycommu system would greatly increase the Doven Wolf's performance, while putting a bit more strain on the pilot. Of course, when you have a more limited supply of pilots, the Doven Wolf looks much more appealing, but Zaku III still feels like a better production model overall.
1.) Sadly, the GM Custom was also one of numerous mobile suits that was seen as "too plain". As Kou said, "Remarkable for being totally unremarkable". The same thing would be why the Barzam wouldn't be adopted by the Titans in Zeta Gundam despite being an otherwise good all around mobile suit; nothing about it really stood out. However, the GM Custom and GM Cannon II would ironically also be acquired and used by the AEUG near the end of the Gryps Conflict in Zeta Gundam (updated version). 2.) The ZZ's reactor was also increased even higher when it was upgraded to the Enhanced ZZ Gundam when preparing it for its Full Armor configuration - to a whopping 7860 kW. Only things that surpassed it was Neo Zeon's AMX-015 Geymalk (8320 kW) and, of course, the NZ-000 Quin Mantha / Queen Mansa at 21,370 kW. 3.) I also wish we got an explanation for why the Hyaku Shiki Kai mass production type ended up not making it. Same with the Nemo III, Rick Dias II, and others. 4.) Kind of weird how the Zeta Gundam never reaches any sort of full mass production, yet the Delta Gundam, which was essentially the first attempt at the Zeta Gundam and would go on to become the Hyaku Shiki, would eventually see such mass production with the ReZel in Unicorn Gundam (and even seeing its initial shelved design, complete with transformation, brought back to life with the Delta Plus) and such. 5.) Most likely was due to Mashymere and his Newtype power that made his customized Zaku III look way stronger than normal. Still a great mobile suit all around, but sadly, the Doven Wolf is the one that would continue to have a legacy in the form of the Federation's Silver Bullet (basically a captured Doven Wolf with a Gundam head).
I'd like to see a video explaining why the Doben Wolf had such a huge reactor. I didnt think it was a mass production unit either, it's been a while since I have seen ZZ but I thought it was just for aces.
one solution for the ZZ Mass Production type is to make an external power-pack for the mega cannons. even if its good for 1 or 2 shots, those free shots could make all the difference.
There seems to be a major problem with the whole idea of the "Zaku III VS Doven Wolf competition", namely that it didn't happen as commonly assumed. The Zaku III was deployed much earlier than the Doven Wolf, as you can see a couple of units during the Dakar parade at around mid ZZ series. You can even see these units in Gundam Unicorn, when the ECOAS commander is watching footage to find out if Audrey Burne is Minerva Zabi. Furthermore, background info from the Dreissen's original model kit manual suggests that both the AMX-009 and AMX-011 were based on old Zeon MS to speed up their development, and as we know Rakan piloted a prototype Dreissen (depicted in the aforementioned manual) while leading a mission to other colonies similar to Mashymre's. Therefore it seems that the vanilla AMX-011 was produced and introduced much earlier than assumed, likely around at the same time as the Dreissen. What about the Doven Wolf's competition? I think that the machine that competed with the Doven Wolf was the improved AMX-011S. This is best supported by the quick glimpse we get at the two Zaku III units seen among Glemy's forces launching from Axis. While using similar colors to the vanilla AMX-011, which might actually be the color scheme from Glemy's forces which is very similar, if you look closely you can see that these machines seem to have protrusions on their backs which seem to be the propellant tanks from a AMX-011S: vignette.wikia.nocookie.net/gundam/images/6/67/Glemyforces.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20150718172728 Other traits like the single antenna head and the round spike shoulder armor are not so clear, but do seem to be present. Lastly, these units seem to be using the infamous beam rifle included in the HGUC kit of the AMX-011S, but not actually used by Mashymre in the series: vignette.wikia.nocookie.net/gundam/images/6/60/Zaku_III_custom.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20111027005418 Then there's that red AMX-011S from Twilight of Axis, which in the novel is said to have been ordered by Haman Karn for Char. The novel is a bit ambiguous about these events, but does conclude saying that Char left Axis without piloting it even once. This does mesh well with the idea that the development of the Zaku III, along with the Dreissen, proceeded faster than other MS, given that they were base done listing designs. My guess is that the vanilla Zaku III was ready early during the 1st Neo Zeon War, and that a standardized AMX-011S is the one developed late in the conflict as a high performance variant of the Zaku III, which ultimately lost against the Doven Wolf.
The always bulky good boy Zaku III. Finally built the HG kit it’s great. It’s so weird to think the next in the Zaku main line didn’t end up being mass produced.
The Victory Gundam(s) were the best "mass produced" units. Not sure if V-Dash and V2 count, but OG Victory was pretty cool. Almost like getting three craft for the price of one. Break a leg, simply ask the base to send another pair of legs.
I think it's worth noting that they seemed to have finally perfected mass producing the Zeta Gundam in the form of the ReZEL. Unlike all of these suits though, it was relegated to mostly ROOKIE pilots. We see them used almost uniformly by subordinates to more ace pilots using the tried and true Jegan through our the whole of Unicorn. I assume that familiarity with such an easy to produce and quick to repair and rearm mobile suit made its experienced pilots fall in love with its absolute field-worthiness while the ReZEL features a lot of large, clunky weapons, was usually a bigger target, and featured extra weapons, systems, etc that made learning to pilot it more difficult when an already perfectly capable machine in the form of the Jegan was already present. The Jegan seems so extremely popular that we even see it phase out the GM line eventually over the next few decades. Poor ReZEL. It just wants some love too.
Char :what should I used as my mass-production mobile suits One guy: maybe we can use the zaku 3? Char: nah we'll just make a new standard mobile suit The zaku 3 is better than geara doga Thank God the sleeves had the right idea of putting a zaku 3 in there ranks
i think you missed the Galbady β, the feds sort of mass produced them but it was such a small number that its only used at Luna II. in animation, only Lila and jerid piloted these is UC0087. i would say the marasai, but it probably got mass-produced in large numbers that some got into the hands of zeon remnants in Unicorn
Alex > GM Custom > GM Quel > Hazel > The Bullshit the TR series is known for. That certainly _IS_ quite the lineage if you think about it. It's a gundam derived grunt suit that re-evolved back into a Gundam (and arguably my favorite line of suits as well)
Everybody knows that the real reason is so they can make more gunplas The one I want to see mass produced in gunpla form is Psycommu Zaku in the HGUC Gundam the Origin MSD line.
Hyaku Shiki Kai is a branch of the ol' Hyaku Shiki from your other video on non existent MS's that got gunpla models. Check that for my commentary on the Delta Gundam, in which I mentioned the Type 100 (that's a direct translation of Hyaku Shiki). Basically, seeing that despite the Hyaku Shiki not having a working transformation system, the engineers figured they had something going (...the Hyaku Shiki was STILL in the Nahel Ahgama's Inventory by the time of ZZ after being put through its paces by Quattro Bajeena - how many years was that again?), so they decided to take the base design and perfect it, leading to the Type 100 Custom. The line ended as you stated - but the design wasn't left behind: the funnel equipped Sazabi was based off the Type 100 Custom I believe. Ironic if you know that Quattro, he is a Char. :3 Also, as I said before on the other thread, Anahiem's attempts at mass producing transformable units did not end with the Re-GZ (That's REformed Gundam Z in full mind).. The Re-GZ Custom was indeed one of a kind, but they weren't done yet - just look at the ReZEL, and the Delta Plus. Took up to the Unicorn era to do it, but they actually succeeded in making both a mass production Z Gundam, (which still didn't really sell, but nevermind), and a mass production transformable unit.
Thankfully the the ReZEL from Unicorn Gundam fixed most of the original Re-GZ's problems as it just took the Methuss and ZII's transformation system and went with it
I would say the Re-zel deserved to become a fully produced suit. Considering that it is the base for Yuuma's Lightning Gundam from Try, and he didn't even need to modify it that much, the Re-zel clearly had untapped potential.
in gundams series for some reason, i see a pattern that most of the time "earth side" always make ms that fit general purpose unit compare to "space side" that have more variation on their suit for each specified role. like comparing a swiss army knife with other specified tools
Personally, I saw it as this. Space side mostly lived in environments tbat are either harsher or artificially made. This made them over think how they could optimize their machines for such environments. Earth side on the other hand focused in making something that can subsequentially function on any environment, taking in possible strategical inputs on how to deal with underwater, aerial and space battles.
The way they seem to be able to easily add or remove transforming to or from a MS is funny. It looks like it should be so complicated that a mech like the RE-GZ would simply be a mech bearing resemblance to the Zeta Gundam, not based off of it's design.
The way Gundam tends to only focus on a few characters at any time makes it easy to forget the scale of the worlds the stories take place in. The bulk of these wars are decided by the thousands of battles we don’t see.
Honestly the best fully fledged mass production unit would be the mass production zeta and the zaku III. If they increased the energy output, redesigned the mobile suit for sniping and special ops or even removed the head mega cannon entirely in favor of a simplified version of what the Rick Dias beam pistols used as a sort of beam head vulcan then they could have made a mass production type that could fight while doing similar damage to its previous design, albeit not all at once. They also could have mounted extra ballistic weapons and kept the beam rifle from ZZ. Furthermore if they reduced the output of the suits beam rifle a little bit then they might also he able to slip in a little increase for the beam vulcans. If I'm being honest, they could have used a system to change the output and using a limiter to force the suit to go back to its previous settings once it reached a certain threshold such as 3k Kw. That way they could keep the output of the machines beam weapons from stressing the generator too much while also giving decent enough performance to fight with mobile suits from the post war era/the second war. I chose the Zaku III because it's versatility and the name sake of the zaku in general. It would've been great to see the suit in CCA and have bigger presence in the Zeon Remnants on earth or with the Sleeves. I love these videos cause it makes me think of what they could've done to fix the suit and make up better designs and choices for the Federation to make while designing and producing them. Such as; using a GM Custom with the Alex Gundams chobham armor as well as a long range beam rifle and a secondary generator below the cockpit. This would make it so the suit has an increase in performance and more options for weaponry as well as the defensive capabilities of the Alex. If the armor was too badly damaged or the suit needed to provide front line support, it could quickly purge the armor or act as a defensive unit while its allies slipped away. They could cut costs by using spare parts and the same rifles from GM Sniper II's the suit would have a superior range of mobility, superior firepower, incredible defense, and the ability to play multiple roles in battle. Not to mention it could also be a proper mass production type successor to the Alex!
It would definitely have to be the zaku III as you pointed out it was one of the most customizable mobile suit out there and the mobility wasn't bad either as I play a lot if different gundam games I have used and fought the zaku III I would dare to say it's on par with some of the older gundam types (zaku for ever)
I'm probably behind on my backstory a bit, but what's the deal with the Dijeh in Zeta Gundam? That thing came outta nowhere with pretty much no explanation. Only thing I can come up with is it was another hybrid combination of parts intended to be another form of the Hi-Zack or they're "improved" version of the Gouf or Dom that was stolen before it could see use by the Titans.
The Dijeh was built out out of a hybrid combination of parts with the Rick Dias being the central component. The Dijeh was built by the earth resistance movement from mobile suits and other spare parts left behind on earth by the AEUG after their ground campaign there. The Hi-Zack is what former Zeon engineers who went to work for the titans produced. The Dijeh is what other Zeon engineers who joined the resistance on earth were able to produce.
I got a good question, why didn't the cast of zz Gundam replaced the Gundam mk2 with the GM mk3? The GM mk3 had key areas protected by gundaruim and had built in vulkans.
Hey Kakarot, could you explain what happened to the Gustav Karl's, specifically after U.C. 100+, as it was supposed to be the next gen MS after Unicorn
I feel the Core block system woudl actually be a better fit for mass production, and matinance, and getting suits out faster in battle as you could literally just swap out top and bottom. I love the Re-gz and have both the Hg And master grade kits...actually the Re-Gz also had the bad luck of being pioleted by a old type against a cyber newtype. As amouro was able to keep up with char in the first part of the second neo zeon war.
hands down the dolven wulf. that thing was almost equivalent to the gundam mk-V in therms of performance. the only reason the zaku III managed to up it, was due to plot contrievance. with that power, it might've been able to support an i-field.
At this point, I want to call the Re-GZ as the Federation's Space Coffin in comparison to the Zudah being the Zeon's Space Coffin, as after Amuro left the Re-GZ, all of its later pilots suffered the fate of dying in the battlefield (Chan Agi was its final pilot and was also killed in battle like Kayra, though she was killed by friendly fire from the eventual activist Hathaway himself).
What about the Zeta Plus? I dunno if you can talk about the ReGZ without at least giving a footnote to the first attempt to mass-produce a transforming Zeta...
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If I get enough suggestions for other MP units that became Ace units, I'll make a 4th "Commenter's Pick" video about those.
Can you make a video about the Hazel and the Re-GeZ custom because I want to know more about it thanks
What about the Gun EZ / Gun Blastor, the ReZEL, the Rick Dias (and his brother Dijeh), the Bawoo, etc...? These are also very good candidates.
On the other hand, I personally think Re-GZ, should not be here since it saw so limited production -- instead of being a Mass Production as your video titled (besides, it's full name is "Refined Gundam Zeta", not Mass-produced Gundam Zeta). If Re-GZ is qualified for a mass-production machine, what about the two Z-Pluses, three FAZZ, three Mk-II and many V Gundams? Oh and I must mention that despite ReZEL's full name, it at least saw genuine mass production and variations.
speaking off reactor power, I've always wondered why you even need a reactor of sufficient power to use beam weapons that employ their own batteries. seems to defeat the point? could you explain why this is?
That's probably not always the case, e.g. ZZ's head cannon or Sazabi's waist cannon are all connected to the body's generator, or in the case of V2, it's wings definitely eats a lot of energy. In any case, generator output actually is a minor point in Gundam saga, not sure why it's mentioned here either.
How about the mass production type Nu Gundam?
"However, despite being a more than capable machine, its pilots always had the bad luck of running into, simply put, more capable machines."
Poor, poor Re-GZ. The GM Sniper II always seems to run into the same problem.
ditto zeon suits in u.c. 83.
What are you talking about? Zeon ALWAYS kicks the feddies butts whenever the Gundam isn't around. Even the Zaku F2 had a better showing than the GM Kai.
ya, you might want to watch UC 83 over again. most of the Suits the Remnants had in space got taken out pretty damn fast. aside from a few exceptions like the Gellgooogs and MAs.
Come back to me when you find any on-screen GM Kai kills.
Oh WAIT.
GM Sniper II was just too costly. Based on specs it was on par with a Gundam.
The Jesta was never intended to be a mass production unit ever and was designed for Aces. For those who think it should be mentioned.
Thx
I didn't even know about that. But I''m guessing it was meant to work in tandem with the Unicorn Gundam but I'm guessing they weren't thinking of mass producing a souped up GM with better performance probably since it's costly to make more of it.
Considering their debut; i always thought they were overhauled and overtuned Jegans, enough to merit being renamed.
Kinda like how the US's late WW2 tanks/airplanes were mass produced until a line was made exclusively for Special Operations.
@@wilsonng994 More like souped up Jegan.
@@LuoSon312_G8a bit like how the F-14 Tomcat came from a variant of the F-111 Aardvark commissioned by the Navy to run on carriers.
As always, the inevitable question is: do you want to mass produce it?
Yea
Hell yes. Mass Produce them all.
Yes I would want them all to be mass produce but I believe it will never work for the federation where they relied or cost effective mobile suits where they do not effect there assembly lines that is how Zeon lost the war they relied on mobile armors that were so big and so different they could not produce enough frontline mobile suits and maybe if delaz did not nuke their entire fleet then they may have seen a wider production
the Federation and Zeon will have a new enemy called: Taxes
Zaku yes
Zaku III is a beast because not only was easy to pilot like the Zaku II it was very high performance for it's time.
Beast is a good word for it. Great MS.
I like the Zaku 3
Really when it comes down to it the Zaku is a sturdy base to design on, period.
@@FatalShadow13 that's why the Geara Zulu looks quite similar to the Zaku. In fact, you could say is its spiritual succesor
@@granmastersword Same with the Geara Doga that preceded it.
"Let's make the Zeta more cost effective by giving it a dispensable armed pack each time it needs to transform!"
"Wait -"
Sadly,. this is one of those times that Tomino completely pooched it looking to future technology. There is fundamentally no reason why the Back Weapons System could not be an autonomous drone system whose on-board computer could maneuver while being undocked from the mobile suit. In fact, giving the Back Weapons System the ability to engage in combat while undocked would act as a force multiplier, making it a far deadlier alternative to a transforming mobile suit.
@@BrooklynRedLeg better than that, why not make it just a backpack instead? i never understood why go with a full disposeable BP, when all it needed to boost the speed of the machine. seriously, its one thing if it was an earth only unit, but this thing was used in space, where it didnt really add anything, when the TV only RX-78-2 +B Parts makes more sense, you know you screwed up the design...
@@marcosdheleno if a certain manga is to be believed(considered canon):
apparently, it was based on a half-baked "Fake" Zeta, and the BWS was mostly meant to be "disposable", where it's primary role was meant only to allow it to cruise into the battle field, and give it a "first strike" capability, while the base unit itself is fully combat capable on it's own, but whether if it could last long in battle was COMPLETELY dependent on the pilot's skill. because unfortunately, the engineers behind the Re-GZ failed to account for the top of the line Geara Dogas fielded by Neo Zeon(typical inter-departmental rivalry within Anaheim, between the original EFF team, and the post-war absorbed Zeonic/Zimmad team)
apparently, according to some sources, the second Re-GZ's pilot decided to forego the entire BWS, and just use it as if it was a Jegan, and use a Base Jabber instead.
@@duelgundam that's the thing, what you said makes alot of sense... what doesnt is WHY, they had already done something like this before with the MKII gundam, turning it into the super gundam. there's really no reason to add such a convoluted system, instead of just making the g-defender unit better.
They could have just simply designed a simplier transformation, which they did with the ReZel
I think I’m seeing a pattern in mobile suit development.
Feds: Hey, let’s make a gm/gundam type thing and hope it’s ok and cheap to make
Result: Way too many things that may or may not be gundams that end up having only so few units made due to high costs.
Zeon: Hey, let’s make a mean looking zaku.
Result: NO ZAKU BOY, NO ZAKU
Zeon amphibious ms development team:WE NEED WOBLY ARMS GOD DAMMIT!
Result:WOBLY ARMS GOD DAMMIT!
Wobly arms are best arms.
Plan B: just build a gundam and stick an emo kid in it. Wins the war every time (but we have to let the kid think he stole the gundam on his own, so put only like 2 security guards around it tops)
Everyone in Gundam is going through puberty. That includes our Brightest captain and that sunglasses guy.
Char was already in his 20's and Bright was 19, if I remember correctly, Though most people were going through puberty in first Gundam
Yup puberty was a slap of common sense to the face, thank you Bright Noa....
Is it me or the gm custom looks like it will later inspired the jegan.
same idea crossed my mind.
It's the colour probably.
MSD might make something like a Prototype Jegan that looks sort of like the GM Custom
Not just the color, the head loos remarkably similar as well.
fishpop actual the whole design in my opinion
So Alex = GM Custom = GM Quel = MK2 & Hazel?
Interesting.
It's funny how an MS lineage can turn out.
fishpop pretty much except the mk2 was based off the rx-78 design, the hazel tho is just a gm Quel. The gm custom is actually based off the gm command & gm sniper 2 both from late into the one year war. Gundams and GMs are split into different categories but all take parts and aspects from the og Gundam.
well the RGM-79 was made base on Gundam RX-78-2
jude camilleon yes as I said
RGM-78? You mean the 79, right as in the GM.
@@Mr.Badree I was replying to fishpop didn't notice about your reply 😆
the mass-production Hyaku Shiki's head unit looks like the Xenomorph's of the Alien franchise.
Looks like a Quebeley
@@DjPrimeVideos welp you just have me an idea on how to make it in Gundam-Breaker 3
Hyaku Shiki Kai*
It really is a shame that the Zaku III isn't getting a Revive from what we know. I'd love to see it with modern engineering and maybe even some of those optional equipment loadouts we saw in the video.
Keep your hopes up, there's Twilight Axis.
Don't know how to tell you this buddy, but the Zaku III they released from it is just the 1999 kit with some MP parts and Geara Doga guns.
@@supercell615 And it was P-Bandai. Don't forget that.
Hate to say it but build fighters or divers could maybe give a revive version a try or if we’re unlucky just a rehash with slapped on parts
Yeah totally. Of the six kits from the 1999 run, four got revives and I can pick up a Damashii or RG version of the Z'Gok (or at least Char's in the case of the RG). Zaku III, no such luck. Easily near the top of my "Please Revive" list.
My hype is all for the Zaku III
Mashymre's custom unit is seriously just one of my favorite designs from ZZ, if not in general Gundam, and the massive compatibility of the Zaku III for different equipment really makes it stand out.
Am I the only one who likes the Re-GZ because of how the beam saber looks like a broadsword?
Same here. Loved that saber design as well as the Re-GZ in general.
Always use that ms when playing sdgo
Raven Ark yup I keep the glitched ver which only had one form
I like the custom. It looks badass
@@ethanspaziani1070 not a fan of hte custom, and while i love the MS design of the regz, i still find its backpack system to be just idiotic.
of all of them the ZAKU III seems the best design. Modularity means ease of production, interchangeability of parts, ease of maintenance etc...
Really the only reason the poor Zaku 3 didn't see true MP was because it just on its own lacked firepower. But the funny thing is, if you wanted to give it that firepower, in theory you could have probably made parts for it to do everything the Doven could have (although they'd need to have extra reactors to make up for it).
modularity is better. besides the doven wolf seems...OVERPOWERED for a Mass Pro suit.
I always thought that the Hamon loyalists were grinnjng ear to ear with how badly the doben wolf was doing against them
Well the get an OP over complex MS. Zaku III is the exact opposite.
@@nightlock826 they probably laughed about won battles in the mess halls daily. Fkn low reactor, oversimplified design>overcomplicated, excessive energy, not modular.
The always bulky zaku III. A great upgrade for the zaku II that prompted customization. A beauty in my eyes
The most effective mass production unit was.....
Ple.
When you mass product new types, any machine can become an Ace machine.
Aren't there only 12 of those in total? Sounds more like limited production unit to me.
@@accelriderx2931 That's more almost than 1/2 this list.
Too soon
R.I.Particles South Burning... all he wanted to do was to teach Kou that carrots taste good and are good for you. 😢
Once spent several minutes trying to push an elevator button with an umbrella...
@@snuffkin007not an umbrella, a crutch
I finally realized why you use the GM custom and the Zaku 3 in your intro. You used them all the time to compare the sizes of a kit you are reviewing
And Meyrin!
The standard size GM Custom and the always bulky Zaku 3
Another one to mention might be the RX-160 Byarlant, which was an attempt by Titans engineers to produce a Mobile Suit capable of atmospheric flight which did not rely on external booster systems or transformation gimmicks. One of the trial production Byarlants was piloted by Jerid Messa during the Gryps War, and it was intended to be mass-produced, but was passed over after it became clear that its armaments - a pair of integrated beam guns in its hands, plus two beam sabers - were not versatile enough to be useful. At least one example of an enhanced variant, the RX-160S Byarlant Custom, was produced after the war by the EFF, and fought in defense of Torrington Base when Zeon remnants attacked it in UC 0096.
Another good candidate for this sort of list would be the RMS-154 Barzam. Although not strictly an ace machine, the Barzam was an intended replacement for the aging RGM-79R GM II in Federation and Titans service. Based loosely on the design of the RX-178 Gundam Mk-II, the Barzam had some characteristic Titans embellishments, including a mono-eye and a custom beam rifle, though it could also use weapons intended for the Gundam Mk-II, RMS-106 Hi-Zack, RMS-108 Marasai and GM II. Though it was a reasonably high performance machine, it was considered "too ordinary" in its capabilities by Federation and Titans leadership, and never replaced the GM II as intended. Those few that were produced during its limited production run were relegated primarily to second-line duties and training.
There are errors in this. First the Byarlant was produced in a 3 more units pace version production from Jerid's(all of them are seen escorting reccoa when she sunk the dogosse guat). Then also the Barzam was just excellent, it was just introduced too late. It was one of the few Titans MS reused by the EFSF. Look at the BarGM, it was ome of the unit used in combination WITH GM III in the federation ranks
@@marcomeinnel6955 The Barzam was more a Gelgoog than a GM II situation. It was a great unit but it was simply produced way too late and in too few numbers to actually do something. The Gelgoog would've been the Gundam Killer if most of Zeon's best Pilots weren't dead.
Definitely the Zaku III. I think what made the Zaku II and its Ace Pilots so dangerous was that each one was different and you never really knew what you were up against, as the MS' could be modified to be drastically different from one another. You might be fighting a Zaku with enhanced thrusters that can zip around you one second then get ambushed by one with two bazooka's and thicker armor.
oh and lest we forget that, as of Zeta Gundam: A New Translation, the GM Custom (and GM Cannon II) would also find its way into the hands of the AEUG
GM custom: remarkable for being totally unremarkable
Awesome~
I love the gm custom, it's got such a simple yet cool looking design, has some great capabilities as of its time, and it's a good mobile suit to use in mobile suit Gundam: encounters in space for the ps2. I wish that it did get a little more love in the series, but with it being inspiration for the gm quel that's pretty cool too.
Speaking of Doven Wolf, isn't it in a technical sense a Mass Production version of Gundam Mk V, while Bawoo is a mass produced version of Project Zeta (possibly S Gundam)? If so, this really makes one wonder why Feds/Anaheim failed at mass producing some good machine, while First Neo Zeon is able to do so.
If that wasn't enough the Doven Wolf lineage also leads to the Silver Bullet MS.
The Silver Bullets were de-Zeon-ized refurbished Doven Wolf new old stock, if I recall correctly
Hey man just dropping in to say you have some excellent and informative videos. I am currently writing a (rather lengthy) fanfiction about an attempt in U.C. 0111 to restore the Republic of Zeon and find myself frequently dropping in to gain ideas and information about various suits and whatnot.
Keep up 'em coming!
The thought of a mass-produced ZZ Gundam is overwhelming... It shouldda happened
Hey
Glad your uploading videos again
Your latest video was amazing!
True.
Look up the Theta Gundam.
Rezel Defenser Pack Incorporated the cluster missile and mega beam rifle t least.
I can think of a few others that would’ve been even more overwhelming if mass produced, just imagine how overwhelming it would be to face mass produced versions of the unicorn or the wing zero. I’d be more scared of an mp wing zero since wing zero has greater firepower than the zz without the drawback of severely draining the mobile suit’s power through repeated use
I was so hoping the Zaku III would make the list. Thanks for the content.
i don't usually leave likes on videos, but this one had so much good information i had to pause halfway and say how much i love it. Keep it up man! do more of these on lesser known MS from AoZ and Sentinel!!
especially how you included power output and comparisons
Zz gundam had 3 core fighters with probably 3 different reactors might be why it had 7k KW. Mass production version had forgone the docking of the fighters so had 1/3 the output
Two of those fighters were to control the sections of the zz gundam before docking, I don’t think they were still connected after docking
Thats a lot of saying Hyaku Shiki Kai now say Hyaku Shiki Kai 5 times like Hyaku Shiki Kai, Hyaku Shiki Kai, Hyaku Shiki Kai, Hyaku Shiki Kai, Hyaku Shiki Kai
Hyaku shiki kai, hyaku shikai-FUCK!
Although not really an ace unit, I really like the FAZZ from Sentinel. That's my kind of paper tiger!
Big fan of the FAZZ myself.
There's something great with the concept, just strapping every weapon on the ZZ onto a shoddy GM-derived chassis and hope for the best...
Check out the Theta Plus. Basically an upgraded FAZZ that can still transform.
Big fan of the Theta Plus as well. I hope Bandai does a 1/144 scale for it.
Ultimately, my favorite from Sentinel is the Zeta Plus. It's the only Gunpla I've custom painted. It's Flat Black with twin gattling cannons mounted on the shield (A1 model) . Sentinel is amazing, Top Gun, with mobile suits. I'll look into this interesting sounding Theta Plus, thanks for furthering the obsession, comrades.
I did not know about the mass production zz and now I want a kit of it
For my money, the Re-GZ had more potential by alternating different backpacks. An idea I am shaping Into some fanfiction. 😉
Aisle Montecristo yea i loved the re-gz. Such an underated ms
The regz would inspire the rezel of uncorn witch is incredibly high proformance unit
@@thornestark4521 Re-GZ wasn't the only MS to help create ReZel, the descendant of the ReZel is actually ZII
@@yi_hou3092 i figaurd as much
Can't wait for the next one, hope to see a mention of the Taurus or Leo Type N/R/S!
I love the GM Custom. I wish it would get a new MG. The old MG is so bad now.
The Doven Wolf sits at the #2 slot for models I want to see get a RE/100 (behind only the Kshatriya). It is such a cool looking suit.
One unit I feel is missing from this list is the Stark Jegan.
0:42 is pretty much what i always say. you can upgrade and rename it all you want but a GM will always be a GM.
I'm glad to see someone else show the Zaku 3 some love, its possibly my favorite Zaku/Zeon grunt variant.
Glad to see the Zaku III getting some love, always thought it was an awesome, underappreciated MS.
You got me started on Gundam thanks now I’m a super fan
Great video these MS are awesome and the gm custom is my favorite love your videos.
6:15 he said the line. the real mascot of this channel
Zaku II is really maintaining their pedecessor's spirit.
Gundam Destroy, intended for Mass production and did almost reach that with at least 9 built. The only mass production gundam type of the Cosmic Era.
actually, the aliance made a some variants of the forbidden gundam, for underwater operations, and they were full gundams, but there were also a few "mass produced" versions as well. most importantly the forbidden vortex is said to be mass produced(or at the very least, limited production).
Beautiful work. Bravo.
well with the re gz, in it's defense, performance is a mix of pilot and machine and with amuro it was able to handle the jadg goda easily, sazabi might have been too much but that had char in it, with caira well its another story
I think he was only able to beat the Jagd Doga because of his greater combat experience and because he was a true newtype. if the skills of the pilots were equal, the re-gz would not have stood a chance against a funnel-equipped mobile suit like the Jagd Doga. Char shared the psycho-frame technology used to build the Nu Gundam because he knew that any mobile suit without it stood no chance against the Sazabi.
No one talks about the F97.
Flint went into production.
F-99 was also intended for mass production.
@@tyaty the F97E type only had 24 units produced but all were destroyed before and during the steel 7 incident. Before proper mass production.
Very good video, I enjoyed it!
3:47 i like how he kept repeating hyaku shiki kai to the point where it just sounded silly
ZAKUIII~!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! that modular design was beautiful
I'd say the Doven Wolf would make the most sense to mass-produce. You essentially have one platform, the Doven Wolf, and just have to design various attachments, weapons and upgrade kits for it, in order to tackle various objectives and enemies.
Going on a scouting mission? Slap some sensor modules and long-range weapons on the damn thing! You need indirect artillery support? Put so many missles and targeting systems on it that it becomes impolite! Frontline Combat? Beam Sabers and rapid-fire, medium range weaponry! Attacking a Space Station? Bolt some grabbing claws on it, some missile racks, and maybe a beam rifle if you're feeling generous, then use the claws to get a large enough asteroid and... *ACHEM*
I think you get the idea...
About time that you did some federation MS units, However why didn't the GM Sniper 2, Sniper Custom, The Jasta, or the GM-3 Novel make the list?
Zaku III is a great mass production unit in concept. Mass production requires a certain ease of use, while still having solid performance, and the implimentation of INCOM weaponry and the quasi-psycommu system would greatly increase the Doven Wolf's performance, while putting a bit more strain on the pilot. Of course, when you have a more limited supply of pilots, the Doven Wolf looks much more appealing, but Zaku III still feels like a better production model overall.
Great video! Big fan of the Hyakushiki Kai Land Battle Type. Disappointed it wasn't in G Generation Genesis.
1.) Sadly, the GM Custom was also one of numerous mobile suits that was seen as "too plain". As Kou said, "Remarkable for being totally unremarkable". The same thing would be why the Barzam wouldn't be adopted by the Titans in Zeta Gundam despite being an otherwise good all around mobile suit; nothing about it really stood out.
However, the GM Custom and GM Cannon II would ironically also be acquired and used by the AEUG near the end of the Gryps Conflict in Zeta Gundam (updated version).
2.) The ZZ's reactor was also increased even higher when it was upgraded to the Enhanced ZZ Gundam when preparing it for its Full Armor configuration - to a whopping 7860 kW. Only things that surpassed it was Neo Zeon's AMX-015 Geymalk (8320 kW) and, of course, the NZ-000 Quin Mantha / Queen Mansa at 21,370 kW.
3.) I also wish we got an explanation for why the Hyaku Shiki Kai mass production type ended up not making it. Same with the Nemo III, Rick Dias II, and others.
4.) Kind of weird how the Zeta Gundam never reaches any sort of full mass production, yet the Delta Gundam, which was essentially the first attempt at the Zeta Gundam and would go on to become the Hyaku Shiki, would eventually see such mass production with the ReZel in Unicorn Gundam (and even seeing its initial shelved design, complete with transformation, brought back to life with the Delta Plus) and such.
5.) Most likely was due to Mashymere and his Newtype power that made his customized Zaku III look way stronger than normal. Still a great mobile suit all around, but sadly, the Doven Wolf is the one that would continue to have a legacy in the form of the Federation's Silver Bullet (basically a captured Doven Wolf with a Gundam head).
I'd like to see a video explaining why the Doben Wolf had such a huge reactor. I didnt think it was a mass production unit either, it's been a while since I have seen ZZ but I thought it was just for aces.
one solution for the ZZ Mass Production type is to make an external power-pack for the mega cannons. even if its good for 1 or 2 shots, those free shots could make all the difference.
There seems to be a major problem with the whole idea of the "Zaku III VS Doven Wolf competition", namely that it didn't happen as commonly assumed.
The Zaku III was deployed much earlier than the Doven Wolf, as you can see a couple of units during the Dakar parade at around mid ZZ series. You can even see these units in Gundam Unicorn, when the ECOAS commander is watching footage to find out if Audrey Burne is Minerva Zabi.
Furthermore, background info from the Dreissen's original model kit manual suggests that both the AMX-009 and AMX-011 were based on old Zeon MS to speed up their development, and as we know Rakan piloted a prototype Dreissen (depicted in the aforementioned manual) while leading a mission to other colonies similar to Mashymre's.
Therefore it seems that the vanilla AMX-011 was produced and introduced much earlier than assumed, likely around at the same time as the Dreissen.
What about the Doven Wolf's competition?
I think that the machine that competed with the Doven Wolf was the improved AMX-011S. This is best supported by the quick glimpse we get at the two Zaku III units seen among Glemy's forces launching from Axis. While using similar colors to the vanilla AMX-011, which might actually be the color scheme from Glemy's forces which is very similar, if you look closely you can see that these machines seem to have protrusions on their backs which seem to be the propellant tanks from a AMX-011S:
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Other traits like the single antenna head and the round spike shoulder armor are not so clear, but do seem to be present. Lastly, these units seem to be using the infamous beam rifle included in the HGUC kit of the AMX-011S, but not actually used by Mashymre in the series:
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Then there's that red AMX-011S from Twilight of Axis, which in the novel is said to have been ordered by Haman Karn for Char. The novel is a bit ambiguous about these events, but does conclude saying that Char left Axis without piloting it even once. This does mesh well with the idea that the development of the Zaku III, along with the Dreissen, proceeded faster than other MS, given that they were base done listing designs.
My guess is that the vanilla Zaku III was ready early during the 1st Neo Zeon War, and that a standardized AMX-011S is the one developed late in the conflict as a high performance variant of the Zaku III, which ultimately lost against the Doven Wolf.
The always bulky good boy Zaku III. Finally built the HG kit it’s great. It’s so weird to think the next in the Zaku main line didn’t end up being mass produced.
Doven Wolf is definitely Neo Zeon’s best Mass Produced Suit.
The Victory Gundam(s) were the best "mass produced" units. Not sure if V-Dash and V2 count, but OG Victory was pretty cool. Almost like getting three craft for the price of one.
Break a leg, simply ask the base to send another pair of legs.
I love how the autosubs turn Hyaku Shiki Kai into Shocker Xi Chi Chi/Shell Kuchiki Cash/Yakushiji Time/Chakra Shiki Chi.
The GM quell would suit me....but I'd need to change the colors....But I am a Doga pilot at heart.
I think it's worth noting that they seemed to have finally perfected mass producing the Zeta Gundam in the form of the ReZEL. Unlike all of these suits though, it was relegated to mostly ROOKIE pilots. We see them used almost uniformly by subordinates to more ace pilots using the tried and true Jegan through our the whole of Unicorn.
I assume that familiarity with such an easy to produce and quick to repair and rearm mobile suit made its experienced pilots fall in love with its absolute field-worthiness while the ReZEL features a lot of large, clunky weapons, was usually a bigger target, and featured extra weapons, systems, etc that made learning to pilot it more difficult when an already perfectly capable machine in the form of the Jegan was already present.
The Jegan seems so extremely popular that we even see it phase out the GM line eventually over the next few decades.
Poor ReZEL. It just wants some love too.
Char :what should I used as my mass-production mobile suits
One guy: maybe we can use the zaku 3?
Char: nah we'll just make a new standard mobile suit
The zaku 3 is better than geara doga
Thank God the sleeves had the right idea of putting a zaku 3 in there ranks
I'd have loved driving a Zaku 3. The modularity's amazing, I'm a fan of Zakus, and also a fan of bulky MS. What's not to love?
i think you missed the Galbady β, the feds sort of mass produced them but it was such a small number that its only used at Luna II.
in animation, only Lila and jerid piloted these is UC0087.
i would say the marasai, but it probably got mass-produced in large numbers that some got into the hands of zeon remnants in Unicorn
Alex > GM Custom > GM Quel > Hazel > The Bullshit the TR series is known for.
That certainly _IS_ quite the lineage if you think about it. It's a gundam derived grunt suit that re-evolved back into a Gundam (and arguably my favorite line of suits as well)
Everybody knows that the real reason is so they can make more gunplas
The one I want to see mass produced in gunpla form is Psycommu Zaku in the HGUC Gundam the Origin MSD line.
This! Love that proto Zeong boi!
In the CCA animation, didn't Kayra use Amuro's Re-GZ when he switched to Nu-Gundam? As a hand-me-down.
that's what in the vid, the 2nd unit was seen in the Ra Cailum
GM Custom and the Re-GZ are two of my favorite UC suit designs.
Hyaku Shiki Kai is a branch of the ol' Hyaku Shiki from your other video on non existent MS's that got gunpla models. Check that for my commentary on the Delta Gundam, in which I mentioned the Type 100 (that's a direct translation of Hyaku Shiki). Basically, seeing that despite the Hyaku Shiki not having a working transformation system, the engineers figured they had something going (...the Hyaku Shiki was STILL in the Nahel Ahgama's Inventory by the time of ZZ after being put through its paces by Quattro Bajeena - how many years was that again?), so they decided to take the base design and perfect it, leading to the Type 100 Custom. The line ended as you stated - but the design wasn't left behind: the funnel equipped Sazabi was based off the Type 100 Custom I believe. Ironic if you know that Quattro, he is a Char. :3
Also, as I said before on the other thread, Anahiem's attempts at mass producing transformable units did not end with the Re-GZ (That's REformed Gundam Z in full mind).. The Re-GZ Custom was indeed one of a kind, but they weren't done yet - just look at the ReZEL, and the Delta Plus. Took up to the Unicorn era to do it, but they actually succeeded in making both a mass production Z Gundam, (which still didn't really sell, but nevermind), and a mass production transformable unit.
I think the hyaku shiki kai would’ve been a great mass production mobile suit it could be used by veteran pilots
Thankfully the the ReZEL from Unicorn Gundam fixed most of the original Re-GZ's problems as it just took the Methuss and ZII's transformation system and went with it
Nice video, thanks man & keep it up!👍
I would say the Re-zel deserved to become a fully produced suit. Considering that it is the base for Yuuma's Lightning Gundam from Try, and he didn't even need to modify it that much, the Re-zel clearly had untapped potential.
The GM Custom, was upgraded and did get used by AEGU forces, as seen in Zeta Gundam A New Translation.
I like both the GM Custom Mass Production Type & the Zaku lll.
in gundams series for some reason, i see a pattern that most of the time "earth side" always make ms that fit general purpose unit compare to "space side" that have more variation on their suit for each specified role.
like comparing a swiss army knife with other specified tools
Personally, I saw it as this. Space side mostly lived in environments tbat are either harsher or artificially made. This made them over think how they could optimize their machines for such environments. Earth side on the other hand focused in making something that can subsequentially function on any environment, taking in possible strategical inputs on how to deal with underwater, aerial and space battles.
Love the Hazel. Wish that unit was mass produced. Good list. When are you making that video about the 4 reasons the Titan's fell?
can you explain the gm dominance
3:17 The Deep Striker has a reactor that dwarfs all UC mobile suits at 12500 kW.
The way they seem to be able to easily add or remove transforming to or from a MS is funny. It looks like it should be so complicated that a mech like the RE-GZ would simply be a mech bearing resemblance to the Zeta Gundam, not based off of it's design.
Can't wait for you to get to Thunderbolt related issues.
I like the Zaku 3. Adaptable, upgradeable and the temptation to paint it red and call myself a baron would be strong.
The way Gundam tends to only focus on a few characters at any time makes it easy to forget the scale of the worlds the stories take place in. The bulk of these wars are decided by the thousands of battles we don’t see.
I love how the Doven Wolf vs Zaku III is basically Nu Gundam vs Sazabi a full war earlier.
Honestly the best fully fledged mass production unit would be the mass production zeta and the zaku III. If they increased the energy output, redesigned the mobile suit for sniping and special ops or even removed the head mega cannon entirely in favor of a simplified version of what the Rick Dias beam pistols used as a sort of beam head vulcan then they could have made a mass production type that could fight while doing similar damage to its previous design, albeit not all at once. They also could have mounted extra ballistic weapons and kept the beam rifle from ZZ. Furthermore if they reduced the output of the suits beam rifle a little bit then they might also he able to slip in a little increase for the beam vulcans. If I'm being honest, they could have used a system to change the output and using a limiter to force the suit to go back to its previous settings once it reached a certain threshold such as 3k Kw. That way they could keep the output of the machines beam weapons from stressing the generator too much while also giving decent enough performance to fight with mobile suits from the post war era/the second war. I chose the Zaku III because it's versatility and the name sake of the zaku in general. It would've been great to see the suit in CCA and have bigger presence in the Zeon Remnants on earth or with the Sleeves. I love these videos cause it makes me think of what they could've done to fix the suit and make up better designs and choices for the Federation to make while designing and producing them. Such as; using a GM Custom with the Alex Gundams chobham armor as well as a long range beam rifle and a secondary generator below the cockpit. This would make it so the suit has an increase in performance and more options for weaponry as well as the defensive capabilities of the Alex. If the armor was too badly damaged or the suit needed to provide front line support, it could quickly purge the armor or act as a defensive unit while its allies slipped away. They could cut costs by using spare parts and the same rifles from GM Sniper II's the suit would have a superior range of mobility, superior firepower, incredible defense, and the ability to play multiple roles in battle. Not to mention it could also be a proper mass production type successor to the Alex!
It would definitely have to be the zaku III as you pointed out it was one of the most customizable mobile suit out there and the mobility wasn't bad either as I play a lot if different gundam games I have used and fought the zaku III I would dare to say it's on par with some of the older gundam types (zaku for ever)
can someone tell me what gundam show the first part is from? and maybe also the one with Zaku 3's?
I'm probably behind on my backstory a bit, but what's the deal with the Dijeh in Zeta Gundam? That thing came outta nowhere with pretty much no explanation. Only thing I can come up with is it was another hybrid combination of parts intended to be another form of the Hi-Zack or they're "improved" version of the Gouf or Dom that was stolen before it could see use by the Titans.
The Dijeh was built out out of a hybrid combination of parts with the Rick Dias being the central component. The Dijeh was built by the earth resistance movement from mobile suits and other spare parts left behind on earth by the AEUG after their ground campaign there. The Hi-Zack is what former Zeon engineers who went to work for the titans produced. The Dijeh is what other Zeon engineers who joined the resistance on earth were able to produce.
I got a good question, why didn't the cast of zz Gundam replaced the Gundam mk2 with the GM mk3? The GM mk3 had key areas protected by gundaruim and had built in vulkans.
Zaku 3 all the way
Hey Kakarot, could you explain what happened to the Gustav Karl's, specifically after U.C. 100+, as it was supposed to be the next gen MS after Unicorn
I feel the Core block system woudl actually be a better fit for mass production, and matinance, and getting suits out faster in battle as you could literally just swap out top and bottom.
I love the Re-gz and have both the Hg And master grade kits...actually the Re-Gz also had the bad luck of being pioleted by a old type against a cyber newtype. As amouro was able to keep up with char in the first part of the second neo zeon war.
The Double Zeta Gundam is impressive
hands down the dolven wulf. that thing was almost equivalent to the gundam mk-V in therms of performance. the only reason the zaku III managed to up it, was due to plot contrievance. with that power, it might've been able to support an i-field.
At this point, I want to call the Re-GZ as the Federation's Space Coffin in comparison to the Zudah being the Zeon's Space Coffin, as after Amuro left the Re-GZ, all of its later pilots suffered the fate of dying in the battlefield (Chan Agi was its final pilot and was also killed in battle like Kayra, though she was killed by friendly fire from the eventual activist Hathaway himself).
ZZ MP? Wow nice! The more you know!
What about the Zeta Plus? I dunno if you can talk about the ReGZ without at least giving a footnote to the first attempt to mass-produce a transforming Zeta...
Not gonna mention how the Doven Wolf was so good that the Federation made their own (the Silver Bullet)?