4WD Mini Rock Bouncer Build Suzuki SV650 Part 1
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- Опубліковано 14 сер 2021
- Today I'm starting a new build a 4WD mini rock bouncer using a Suzuki sv650 for the powerplant. This Suzuki sv650 v twin makes about 75hp and should be perfect for this mini rock bouncer! In the first part I'm fabricating hub adapters for the wheels and looking at the general layout. I'm also starting on the front suspension layout and spindles and ball joints. If you have any suggestions for this build let me know in the comments below!
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No matter how ANY BUILD you do turns out, you BUILD more parts than you buy, and that time invested is insane! Nothing but respect, brother!
he is BUILDER not buyer :D
This is why I love this channel this man is dedicated to his craft and he builds 97% of his machines
@@100kent2 me too!!
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Someone needs to sponsor Chris with a pipe bender, and a plasma table.
Seconded!
He has a protools tube bender
absolutely .. rogue fab bender, crossfire pro CNC table.
I've been thinking thats for a couple years now.
I agree
Hey Chris. I owned a couple 2005 Suzuki SV650s, it was my first bike and I know them very well. The engine is know to have oil starvation issues during long wheelies so if you plan on climbing some steep hills or rocks another engine may be a better choice. Even if you fix the oil pickup issue the oil will build up in the cylinder at the bottom. Just something to keep in mind. It should have plenty of torque in a low gear but don't expect it to be fast.
Also be careful removing things because everything on that engine is made of cheese and will strip if you look at it wrong. Other than that it's a super reliable and sweet sounding engine. It looks like you got a CA bike, so you will want to block off the air injection system (PAIR), you don't need that. Also make sure you leave the vacuum chamber on the intake, this is used to dampen the pauses for the intake air pressure sensor and the bike will run like crap without it. It's a little black plastic cylinder on a hose attached to the airbox.
I look forward to the build, it looks like it's going to be awesome!
I also have owned several SVs and still have my first 05 SV that I have owned for over 12 years. All this info is correct and I would heed his advice for sure! I definitely clicked this series quick when I saw SV in the title!
I think it need a engine with more torque . like a 1000cc diesel engine . and make it torqueeee
Love the build, just wish the videos were longer I start getting into it and then it's over
Look up Hollingsworth's "Outlaw" rock bouncer. He built a 4 wheel independent rock bouncer that's pretty nasty. It's a 1 seater, mid engine setup that might work well with what you have. Think outside of the box you're in, it doesn't have to be front engine. The trick to making it a small package is to put stuff where it fits. Your CBR 1000 buggy has a roof that's 14+" too tall. Lean the seat back and bring the roof line down. Put the engine in the passenger seat and the trans behind it. That makes the buggy no longer than your body and only as wide as you and the engine.
Exactly my thoughts too!
For sure ! Independant suspensions are obviously better.
@@tetrakite Not always. If your looking to crawl, rather than bounce over rocks, then axle articulation (flex) becomes your priority. And for flexing, solid axles are a better choice.
@@keithrushforth4019 If the IFS/IRS pumpkin were mounted to a link setup it could add more flex and articulation
@@NVMDSTEvil I've never seen it done but yes your right. You'd only need to make the front pivot, then you'd then have the best of both setups.
Chris definitely needs a cnc plasma table
The time saved would be huge!
He already makes the parts, it would be quicker
That would be a great build to use portal axles, and probably would benefit from it, it would give the CVs some durability and not to mention the clearance for rock crawling
OG subscriber and fab guy here. Love the channel and all the work you put in. Heres my .02. Shaft drive for what youre building, no more chains, pre-built auto transmissions, atvs while the initial investment is more, the motors and transmissions (pullouts) are bolt together WITH reverse already incorporated. Use more premade parts, hubs, spindles, bearings can be found in all different sizes AND cheap for atvs and vehicles. Used and new. Last weight, build every single part with weight in mind, strongest needed part with the lightest fab required. Less weight, faster lighter vehicle.
Look up "Portal" or "Unimog" axles. You have an opportunity to connect the 2 cv shafts in a way to get very similar ground clearance. I think it would be amazing. Also, go down the rabbit hole of anti squat. Might help you set up your suspension more conducive to what you want it to do.
Look up Atomic axle.
@@jimhowell4937 ohhhh I forgot about those.
Solid axles are always best for clearance when rock crawling. I love your idea of framing in the ifs/irs components and creating a solid axle setup. The real benefit is you can locate the diff even higher to allow more clearance. Who needs bigger tires when you can find clearance in other ways. Looking forward to this build 👍
Yet independent suspension takes most wins in rock bouncing...
@@chasefreedom5178 Only independent in the front usually.
@@seantap1415 and only in the last few years too.
@@chasefreedom5178 Can't say I follow rock bouncing too much, but when it comes to crawling solid axle definitely has superior flex and clearance. Either way I'm looking forward to what Chris comes up with.
I know it might overcomplicate things a bit(much) but heck I'd love to see a rear wheel steer build.
You'll love the technicality of rock crawling. Precision is more important than how hard you can send it over yonder heap, spine be damned...
Love to watching your build Chris !!!Great job of you ...!!!
Should've got the drivetrain from a wrecked UTV, like a 800cc Polaris
Great video
Just a point on how big you should build just for your own sanity
On your workshop floor draw your trailer
It is a good visual aid
just my 2 cents
Thank god! A front engine 4 wheel drive off road beast! I feel like this layout is really slept on. The weight distribution of the engine in front and passenger/ passengers in back, including gas tank and radiator, on a 4 wheel drive platform not only make for great off-road performance, but with a proper setup could kill for on road track usage. Even drifting👀. Love the work man! Keep it up.
I love how you’re videos have progressed from lifted go karts to wicked motorcycle powered beasts!!!
I think it looks good the way you have it. Anything smaller then an actual rock bouncer is a win in my book. Your builds are sweet. Can't wait to see final video and test a test drive!
I'm really curious how this one will behave. The big-bro variants have some specific "demands" in terms of weight distribution in order to do the hectic runs they do. I mean, don't get me wrong, i don't expect you to bounce at break neck speeds with it, it's a mini, but it will be interesting to see how it rides.
Good parts to start with tho, and i'm digging the rims. Good luck with it!!!
A good solid cage shaped to tip onto its wheels if it tumbles.... Put a good head supportive seat in it. Roll overs will be faster if it goes but smaller objects can catch it as itll be light...ish. I recon itll be just as much fun as the big boys.
Awesome, this is going to be a wicked ride. Can't wait to see it on the trail.
I had to work on A LOT of Polaris MV7s and Sportsman 700 when I was deployed to Afghanistan. They were the easiest to work on because of their modularity. I even took a wrecked on and turned it into a 2wd dragster. I think Chris will have fun with this build.
yes!!! finally a 4x4 rock bouncer!!! this build is gonna be epic! cant wait to see it rip some terrain to pieces!
Watching from Guam 🇬🇺
Im Excited for this build..you have the skills to build this pocket rock bouncer..already waiting for part 2..🤙
You're an extremely smart and talented young man Chris! I enjoy your videos very much! Keep up the great work
I had an SV650 from that era, and it's an absolute little sweetheart of an engine. They are super smooth and nice and torquey (not a real word, but you know what I mean). It should be great for a low geared application like that. 👍🏻
Love the new project can’t wait to watch it come to life😍😍
YESSS!!!! This is what I've been wanting to build myself. Looking forward to watching your build.
I watched you for 4 years now wow u still impress
Love it. I'd say, even though it might be on the smaller side, build it as much to scale as you can, based on the tire size.
hell yeah, every time you upload a video i get happier, thank you for everything, cheers, good luck :)
SV650 engine suffers from oil starvation when tilted toward the back (like a wheeling motorcycle), it might not be the best option if you plan any steep climbing
I am so stoked your finally making a mini crawler !!!!!! Can't wait to see the next video !!!!
this build is right up your alley!! super slow crawler
I'm beyond excited for this build!
Excited for this project. I hope after it's done in a few months you do the engine swap you mentioned for the VF1000
You build some killer stuff. I would love to have something like that rock bouncer for my son. We watch all your videos. Keep up the good work.
Thats an awsome engine to both drive and maintain. The bottom end is predicteble and strong. Then the power is constant till the higher revs. Mine did over 37000miles with only basic service. Love the prodject!
SUPER stoked for this build!! Its funny to be using independent suspension and then turning it into a solid axle haha. Usually I feel like people wish they could run independent and then have to go with a solid axle. It looks awsome though!
Can't wait for this to be completed, anxious to see what you come up with.
I’m pumped for this one!
Looking so much forward to the next episode 😊 a 4wd at last, spot on 👍👍👍👍
Very cool Man! Can't wait to see what your mind comes up with for this machine, so far your off to a pretty good start with the drive line part's selection, very nice bro!
Sorry taken me months, and months to get round to watching this, only just seen that you posted part 6, so looking forward to watching the rest later. 😀
Iv been thinking of this idea for about 10 years. I'm so excited. I know you will kill it.
Finally a 4x4!!! I’ve been waiting for this forever. Can’t wait to see it finished
hell yeah chris this thing will be awesome specially your little spin on it never out of the box
Cool. I like seeing Chris start new projects. Keep up the good work brother. 👍
Thank you for doing what you do my favorite youtube!!!
You never fail to impress my friend
Awesome machine, i cant wait to see the finished product. Good luck
So excited to see how this thing turns out
not gonna lie, i missed watching they layout videos, it amazes me how you put it together in your mind
I just finished rewatching the CBR 1000 project waiting on the second video if this project to drop.
I think the 4x4 will be your new favorite. I wish you were going IFS/IRS.
I cannot wait to see whatever progress you've made.
You are an absolute animal! Mad props man.
Oh how I've been waiting for this build I dreamed about doing it myself now I can let you work out all the problems and I can capitalize thank you realistically love your work love your content
Love the idea, and look forward to more of your problem solving!
Shame that I can only “like” this video once! I am so excited!
V-twin for the win! This could be your coolest project so far 🔥
I know this is your project and not mine but, why are you making it a fixed or solid axle? You have all the parts there to make it independent suspension and you would gain ground clearance. Well, ether way I'm looking forward to seeing how you tackle this project. I'm just curious, that's all.
Why do you say this, he’s got independent suspension axles laid out?
@@CJLeTeff correct but he literally said he was going to try and make it solid by surrounding them with tubes or something
Because he literally said he going for a mini rocker bouncer look.. all rock bouncers have straight axles
Amazing skill Great to see hand made rather than bought !!! much more satisfaction in do it yourself... Great Channel and content.
I love how you use rudimentary tools. Never change!
You should take this to king of hammers 2022
Man you'd save days of time with a DIY plasma table. One that folds up and can be stored out of the way, with the air compressor and cutter built into the base, along with a whole series of build videos, not to mention your connections with Cars and Cameras, Red Beard, and Grind Hard for guidance on how to go about it. There's also DonDIY who also made one himself. You'd have way more time on the lathe and way less time with the caveman grinder. Also, stack fab for hubs and complex bearing holders.
Also, I wish someone would do a belt drive 4wd, where the tensioner is also a clutch of sorts.
Anyway, I love your videos and hope you never ever stop, I'm on the verge of building my first go kart from scratch and you're the inspiration for it!
super surprised you didn't push engine and dif to one side and sit on the other like the rock bouncer outlaw
Gross
Absolutely stoked about this project
I expect this thing to be a absolute beast and sound amazing
Definitely enjoyed how your machining abilities have progressed 👍. Practice makes perfect. Experience is life’s real teacher. Just imagine had someone dropped off all those parts asked you to build the 4 wheel drive rock crawler. Back when you started your craft. Now it’s an achievable goal. 👍👍
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I love the idea. I've been building the same darn thing out of an 07 Polaris Sportsman 450 4x4 and a 07 Suzuki SV650S.
Much smaller scale. Stayed with the Polaris wheelbase.
Hell yeah this is the one I've been waiting for.
Hell yeah!!! This gonna be bad ass!!!!
Excited to see where this build goes.
Just the wheels got me excited but there’s more!! This is so sick man!
This is the build I've been waiting for!
Came back to watching after a little while and love the vids
You deserve more sunscribers bro....your vids and talent and passion is awesome
Love your projects! Keep the work going!
I really like this project, the idea is great, i'm sure you are good enough to make it small but still make it perform (we are not talking power whell kind of small, this is grind hard job), but if you work on the center of gravity with the position on the engine you can make it really stable and small. Really looking forward to the future of this project.
The best part of building one-off rock crawlers is experimenting with different wheels, tires, suspension, etc.
Nice bro. I look forward to following this whole build.
Awesome as always!
Absolutely the best idea/concept! Wheels and tyres look seriously cool for this one, when fixed the right way haha. My thoughts the Rock bounces have a small cage/frame with a large wheelbase anyway, so a mini version with a small cage and a large wheelbase would look awesome and PS are you doing rear steering!!? 🏆😎💯🥳🏆
This is going to be an awesome build
Glad I found this channel, this build is gonna be killer. Just subscribed.
This is a cool idea and im stoked
finally a 4wd buggy!!!!Big love from Tunisia!!!!!!!
I think the scale you are making this will be perfect man!
Love the new build mate
My first thought on increased tire size with limited drivetrain abuse…. Wheel drive planetary gears. Kind of an expensive option but cool and applicable to such a hurdle. I’ve watched your channel for a couple years now and I know you’re definitely smart enough to figure out the solution should you choose to go that route. Either way your builds are awesome and I look forward to seeing this beast in action. You’re an inspiration to us all. Thanks for the great content!
Finely new project.
Am waiting to see how you build it and see how it comes out and works awesome project
O vídeo mais esperado do século. 4x4 com diferencial e cardã. Parabéns.
Sweet I'll be here watchin!
Oh I am so excited for this
Just subscribed…. Wow 😯 you are the mad 😡 scientist 👨🔬…… Will be tuning in 💯
I ain’t even watch yet and just the video description alone got a thumbs up from me.
Awesome project.
This is gonna be awesome
Gonna be sick no doubt
That is a amazing project
YES! Can't wait for more!