I bought the Hilleberg Nammatj 2 GT a few years ago, and this tent is made for what ever mother nature want to trow at you. But with a compression bag, poles and pegs the weight is around 4,3 kg. Therefore I wanted a Niak for the hikes with a lot of walking and little “camping”. I have now tried to get hold of a Niak (sand) in Norway the last 18 months, but this evening I gave up and ordered myself a Hilleberg Rogen. 2,1 kg Hilleberg tent for the spring, summer and early fall. I have had a few tents before, but Hilleberg is at a different level when it comes to weather resistance and quality. Thank you for a great video, and thank you for sharing with us 🏕🐾🎣
Hi Joshua. I own the Allak 2 which I primarily use for canoeing and car camping. I had a Soulo which I sold because I rarely adventured out in extreme conditions while solo, so the security of that fine tent was not worth carrying the weight. I also have a Nammatj 3 GT which is primarily used for winter adventuring. I haven't run into the high wind conditions you experienced while using the Allak 2, but I can imagine it would be tough to handle setup and breakdown in very harsh conditions. Thanks for sharing your thoughts and experiences.
Hi Dominolastley, thanks for sharing that information. I've got a Nammatj as well (and a video about it), which I find far better suited to high winds. Thanks for sharing your experience with your tents!
@@JoshuaJohnsonOutdoors How tall are you ? I am considering a Nammatj 2, but I suspect my sleeping bag will be in contact with the inner tent in the foot end of the tent. Not a good combination in winter. I am 186 cm and I use sleeping bags designed for people up to 200 cm. What is your experience with the Nammatj 2 so far ?
@@sveinottoaar2543 hi there. Thanks for your interest. Well, I'm really unique in a way. I'm only 178 cm tall, but my torso length is about 80 cm (which is 20-30 cm longer than "normal" according to google). This means i have very short legs, and a VERY long torso. When i sit up in the Nammatj 2, my head always touches the top of the tent, but when I lay down, I do have some room and my feet don't touch the ends of the tent (but just barely). For you, at 186 cm, accounting for the loft of your sleeping - I feel confident to say that your head and toes would touch the tent when you lay down. I've actually had several requests for a Nammatj 2 review video, which I am working on now. It just takes a lot of time to get the necessary B-Roll video. The Nammat 2 review video should be ready in the next couple of months though. Which tents are you considering buying?
@@JoshuaJohnsonOutdoors Reading your reply I will stick to the ones I already own. 😃 I am covered for most situations, but found the Nammatj 2 very interesting for solo trips during winter. Its strength and easy handle were attractive. I have a Kaitum 2 for that use today, but as you probably know it is a red label tent. I also recently bought a Keron 3 , which I have owned the GT version of before. The Keron 3 is my only black label tent. Most of my tents are red label, and I have one yellow label, the Enan, which is over all the one I use the most during a year. Thank you so much for your answer. Much appreciated 🙏🏻 Looking forward to your review of the Nammatj anyway. ATB, Svein.
Hi Joshua, great to the point video. Great shots showing what you are talking about. Awesome to hear your thoughts and experience about set up in high. I thought the Staika was vulnerable to this (even with 10mm poles) so I definitely agree. Really looking forward to your Nammatj2 review done in the mountains of course.... ATB and just subbed too. Tom
Thank you very much, Tom. It's great to hear that you sharing a similar perspective on the tent (including the Staika). Thank you very much for the sub also! I'm looking forward to more of your great content.
Then your solution is a Fjallraven Keb Dome 2. It will address your setup problems and is of equal quality (except at a weight penalty due to slightly larger size and stronger/thicker flysheet). 40 denier very strong silicone impregnated nylon flysheet and an equivalent durable inner floor. Tunnel tents do make for fast set-up in the wind but also buffet a lot… when the wind is crazy and constantly changing direction, it is nicer to be in a more structured dome tent.
Haha, I did think you replaced H.tent with another brand. I was keen to find out what is another good tent to use because there are some. Turns out you stick with Hilleberg. My first hilleberg was Staika, my most used Hilleberg tent for motorcycling and kayaking trips. Easy, fast to set up. comparing to Allak my tent has 2 in one guidelines on each corner what doesn’t tangle as Allaks separate 2 lines on each corner. Also you said I don’t have to wrap lines around poles. It’s 10mm poles and stronger fabric what alll makes difference in bad weather. I also have Anjan 2 for hiking but I do prefer self standing… Thanks!
Thanks Kris. :) Yeah, in hindsight I probably would have bought a Staika over an Allak, but I guess you never know until you actually use them a little bit. Thanks for sharing your experience.
A bit late here but I’m looking at the allak 2 for bicycle touring. I want something more durable than The hubba hubba. Was looking at the Nammatj 2 (non gt) and Nallo 2 gt as well. Struggling to pick but the free standing nature of allak appeals. Will be used in north and South America Europe and south east Asia etc
Hi there, personally, I find the Allak pretty fiddly to setup, but everyone has different preferences. Im sure a lot of people would disagree with me. I think the Nammatj 2 would be overkill for bikepacking, personally. I do a lot of bikepacking as well, and find that weight is even more critical than it is for backpacking. Friends of mine have said good things about some of the Mont free standing tents out there. More robust than MSR, and with the option of both 3 and 4 season inners. What did you end up going with may i ask? I recently bought a Northface Stormbreak 1, specifically for bikepacking, but it's pretty spartan (and probably way too small for the size of trip you will be doing).
Well presented arguments through experience using your Hilleberg Allak. At the moment I'm happy with my Fjallraven lite 1 but maybe in a year or so, if stock is available (and with Hillebergs it is always a stock issue in uk), I may go for the Hilleberg Soulo BL. Subscribed
Hi Joshua, I am experiencing a certain form of agony as I am choosing between the Nammatj and the Allak.. we live in North Queensland (Australia), and would only use it for Tasmanian & NZ alpine summer camping, Alaska summer, and Nepal trek (5000m+).. In Alaska, the tent would be mostly used for a long kayaking trip, with lots of sand and hard rock surfaces, for which I can see the free-standing nature of the Allak being an advantage over the need of having to peg every corner as the Nammatj requires... would love to hear your thoughts. Also please make a video about 4 seasons sleeping bags !!! (max -15/20) Thank you for all your knowledge sharing 🙏 PS: we are too very tall people (6'5 and 5'10), so we were a bit concerned after watching your Nammatj review as it looked a bit snugged!
Hello Marie C, thanks for your interest in my videos. It's funny you say that. I traded my Allak to a guy in Tasmania (he gave me his Nammatj). In hindsight, I suspect he regrets the trade. In my experience, if there is much wind at all, the Allak requires a lot more pegging out than the Nammatj does. To be honest, I think for pretty much anyone that is 6'5", most tents are (unfortunately) going to feel a bit cozy? I do know the Allak is only a few cm longer than the Nammatj, so the difference might not be significant for you. There are many that would disagree with me, but I just find the Allak is not great for wind. Perhaps you could try a Nammatj 3 (same weight as the Allak 2) and sleep at a diagonal? The Staika is a fair bit longer than the Allak, and sets up faster, but the weight is really starting to get up there. Regarding sleeping bags, I'm going to be moving back to Northern Minnesota next year, and will start doing videos on extreme cold gear / trips, so hopefully I can deliver on what you are looking for. Thanks again!
Hiya I sold my allak too as I didn’t rate it in high winds, seemed very flimsy. Another think that bugged me was the top hat, I thought it looked odd. I own a soulo red label which I can’t fault it’s an amazing tent and I’ve bought a staika which for me is the perfect tent, yeah it’s heavy but who cares it’s a beast of a tent and your only talking a couple of kilos different from the soulo. Don’t get me wrong the allak is a great tent just everyone’s got there own tastes. You can’t go wrong with hillebergs
Thanks Paul. How do you find the ventilation on the Staika rates against the Allak? I've got an Akto in addition to the Nammatj, and they are both stellar imo.
@@Paul-eu9jp thank you. Sorry for the slow reply, I only saw your message just now. Speaking of the top hat on the Allak, I accidentally removed mine once, and getting it back on took so long that it resulted in a big argument with my (then) girlfriend - so I feel your pain. lol
I thought you would say too heavy! It is a beast to haul around, but so comfortable once you get there. I also have the Nammatj II and Unna. In many ways, the Unna may be my favorite of the bunch!
Hi Danskbb, that's a good question. It has great ventilation for a 4 season tent, but to be honest, if ventilation is really important to you - I would suggest a 3 season tent instead of a 4 season tent. With the fly that goes all the way to the ground (on the Allak and similar red label tents) it's prevents most of the air from circulating under the fly and over the inner tent. Does that help?
I own the Soulo RL and the NAMMATJ 3 GT (Basecamp with Huskys). So i do agree, hehe ;) In Fact i just came back two days ago from a Three week long trip on Corsica, the fourth-largest island in the Mediterranean only using the Soulo and a Tarp. It is absolutely amazing how much space there is for such a strong tent that you can carry around in a backpack and how cosy it is inside! I think the Allak 3 is also an amazing tent, but I totally agree with your point. The STAIKA would be on my top list if HILLEBERG would upgrade it with features from the Allak. In my mind it is a bit outdated. Still an amazing tent that has a very specific use in mind.
Wow, that must have been an incredible trip! I think even for the soulo black for example, it would have made all the difference had they designed the top guylines like the Staika (imo). Thanks for sharing your thoughts Sentor!
I agree totally with you wholeheartedly about Hilleberg’ need to update the Staika. They updated the Soulo to BL and they need to update the Staika as well. In fact, the old design of the Staika is the only thing holding me back from buying it.
@@JoshuaJohnsonOutdoors Just remembered, it was a staika sorry. But yeah Jannu is good, only used it once, going again in mid december. Only thing I dont like is the vestibule size, hard to cook and do everything you can in the namatj for example
@@JoshuaJohnsonOutdoors but staika and allak are pretty much the same shape, thats why I was confused between the two. Also have a Solou which I like more vestibule wise
Hi There @couchcamperTM. I havent finished it yet. I've recorded the script, and now I'm just collecting more B-Roll. It should be finished in the next few months though. :) Thanks for watching. Do you have much experience with Hilleberg Tents?
@@JoshuaJohnsonOutdoors Months! bummer^^ I slept in a friends Akto once, that's all the experience I have. It was in fair weather, so I can't say it was something to write home about, not a real test, not for me, and not for the Akto ;-) And if I had to choose one, the Namatj GT would be it, I don't like the limited space in a 1 person tent.
Hi Bima Zivanovic, I would say the ventilation on the Allak is far better than the Staika. The Allak has extra vents that the Staika doesn't have. I considered the same thing before I bought the Allak. I just felt the Staika was too heavy for the trips I tend to do - it probably serves better as a small basecamp style tent. Granted, I'd say the Staika is much easier and faster to setup than the Allak. Thanks for having a look.
Thanks for all the input everyone. It's interesting to hear everyone's perspective on their Hilleberg tents!
Interesting Josh and we'll presented. Look forward to seeing how you find your new tent in winds and snow. Cheers!
I bought the Hilleberg Nammatj 2 GT a few years ago, and this tent is made for what ever mother nature want to trow at you.
But with a compression bag, poles and pegs the weight is around 4,3 kg.
Therefore I wanted a Niak for the hikes with a lot of walking and little “camping”.
I have now tried to get hold of a Niak (sand) in Norway the last 18 months, but this evening I gave up and ordered myself a Hilleberg Rogen.
2,1 kg Hilleberg tent for the spring, summer and early fall. I have had a few tents before, but Hilleberg is at a different level when it comes to weather resistance and quality.
Thank you for a great video, and thank you for sharing with us 🏕🐾🎣
Thanks for sharing that info Johnny Jensen! I appreciate it.
Hi Joshua. I own the Allak 2 which I primarily use for canoeing and car camping. I had a Soulo which I sold because I rarely adventured out in extreme conditions while solo, so the security of that fine tent was not worth carrying the weight. I also have a Nammatj 3 GT which is primarily used for winter adventuring. I haven't run into the high wind conditions you experienced while using the Allak 2, but I can imagine it would be tough to handle setup and breakdown in very harsh conditions. Thanks for sharing your thoughts and experiences.
Hi Dominolastley, thanks for sharing that information. I've got a Nammatj as well (and a video about it), which I find far better suited to high winds. Thanks for sharing your experience with your tents!
You raise some really good points for pitching the Allak in high winds. No doubt fine normally, but not ideal when windy.
Thanks for the input, Barry.
the nammatj 2 is the best hilleberg tent. love it
Agreed Raymond!
@@JoshuaJohnsonOutdoors How tall are you ? I am considering a Nammatj 2, but I suspect my sleeping bag will be in contact with the inner tent in the foot end of the tent. Not a good combination in winter. I am 186 cm and I use sleeping bags designed for people up to 200 cm.
What is your experience with the Nammatj 2 so far ?
@@sveinottoaar2543 hi there. Thanks for your interest. Well, I'm really unique in a way. I'm only 178 cm tall, but my torso length is about 80 cm (which is 20-30 cm longer than "normal" according to google). This means i have very short legs, and a VERY long torso. When i sit up in the Nammatj 2, my head always touches the top of the tent, but when I lay down, I do have some room and my feet don't touch the ends of the tent (but just barely). For you, at 186 cm, accounting for the loft of your sleeping - I feel confident to say that your head and toes would touch the tent when you lay down. I've actually had several requests for a Nammatj 2 review video, which I am working on now. It just takes a lot of time to get the necessary B-Roll video. The Nammat 2 review video should be ready in the next couple of months though. Which tents are you considering buying?
@@JoshuaJohnsonOutdoors Reading your reply I will stick to the ones I already own. 😃 I am covered for most situations, but found the Nammatj 2 very interesting for solo trips during winter. Its strength and easy handle were attractive. I have a Kaitum 2 for that use today, but as you probably know it is a red label tent. I also recently bought a Keron 3 , which I have owned the GT version of before. The Keron 3 is my only black label tent. Most of my tents are red label, and I have one yellow label, the Enan, which is over all the one I use the most during a year. Thank you so much for your answer. Much appreciated 🙏🏻 Looking forward to your review of the Nammatj anyway. ATB, Svein.
@@sveinottoaar2543 Thanks, best of luck!
Hi Joshua, great to the point video. Great shots showing what you are talking about. Awesome to hear your thoughts and experience about set up in high. I thought the Staika was vulnerable to this (even with 10mm poles) so I definitely agree. Really looking forward to your Nammatj2 review done in the mountains of course.... ATB and just subbed too. Tom
Thank you very much, Tom. It's great to hear that you sharing a similar perspective on the tent (including the Staika). Thank you very much for the sub also! I'm looking forward to more of your great content.
Allak a great tent. But yes it’s too weak until guyed out. Also in frost when you vent and open the doors the frost pours in as doors overhead.
Hi Gary, it's great to hear your perspective on the Allak - much appreciated!
Pitching the Nammatj or the Akto in high wind is amazing! I'm laughing every time, it's just so easy
Hi James, agreed. I've got both an Akto and a Nammatj as well, and they are both extremely easy to setup in wind. Thanks for sharing.
Then your solution is a Fjallraven Keb Dome 2. It will address your setup problems and is of equal quality (except at a weight penalty due to slightly larger size and stronger/thicker flysheet). 40 denier very strong silicone impregnated nylon flysheet and an equivalent durable inner floor. Tunnel tents do make for fast set-up in the wind but also buffet a lot… when the wind is crazy and constantly changing direction, it is nicer to be in a more structured dome tent.
Haha, I did think you replaced H.tent with another brand. I was keen to find out what is another good tent to use because there are some. Turns out you stick with Hilleberg. My first hilleberg was Staika, my most used Hilleberg tent for motorcycling and kayaking trips. Easy, fast to set up. comparing to Allak my tent has 2 in one guidelines on each corner what doesn’t tangle as Allaks separate 2 lines on each corner. Also you said I don’t have to wrap lines around poles. It’s 10mm poles and stronger fabric what alll makes difference in bad weather. I also have Anjan 2 for hiking but I do prefer self standing… Thanks!
Thanks Kris. :) Yeah, in hindsight I probably would have bought a Staika over an Allak, but I guess you never know until you actually use them a little bit. Thanks for sharing your experience.
A bit late here but I’m looking at the allak 2 for bicycle touring. I want something more durable than The hubba hubba. Was looking at the Nammatj 2 (non gt) and Nallo 2 gt as well. Struggling to pick but the free standing nature of allak appeals. Will be used in north and South America Europe and south east Asia etc
Hi there, personally, I find the Allak pretty fiddly to setup, but everyone has different preferences. Im sure a lot of people would disagree with me. I think the Nammatj 2 would be overkill for bikepacking, personally. I do a lot of bikepacking as well, and find that weight is even more critical than it is for backpacking. Friends of mine have said good things about some of the Mont free standing tents out there. More robust than MSR, and with the option of both 3 and 4 season inners. What did you end up going with may i ask? I recently bought a Northface Stormbreak 1, specifically for bikepacking, but it's pretty spartan (and probably way too small for the size of trip you will be doing).
Fair enough fella.
Cheers Dominic.
Well presented arguments through experience using your Hilleberg Allak. At the moment I'm happy with my Fjallraven lite 1 but maybe in a year or so, if stock is available (and with Hillebergs it is always a stock issue in uk), I may go for the Hilleberg Soulo BL. Subscribed
Thank you very much Mr Nobodies!
Hi Joshua, I am experiencing a certain form of agony as I am choosing between the Nammatj and the Allak.. we live in North Queensland (Australia), and would only use it for Tasmanian & NZ alpine summer camping, Alaska summer, and Nepal trek (5000m+).. In Alaska, the tent would be mostly used for a long kayaking trip, with lots of sand and hard rock surfaces, for which I can see the free-standing nature of the Allak being an advantage over the need of having to peg every corner as the Nammatj requires... would love to hear your thoughts. Also please make a video about 4 seasons sleeping bags !!! (max -15/20) Thank you for all your knowledge sharing 🙏
PS: we are too very tall people (6'5 and 5'10), so we were a bit concerned after watching your Nammatj review as it looked a bit snugged!
Hello Marie C, thanks for your interest in my videos. It's funny you say that. I traded my Allak to a guy in Tasmania (he gave me his Nammatj). In hindsight, I suspect he regrets the trade. In my experience, if there is much wind at all, the Allak requires a lot more pegging out than the Nammatj does. To be honest, I think for pretty much anyone that is 6'5", most tents are (unfortunately) going to feel a bit cozy? I do know the Allak is only a few cm longer than the Nammatj, so the difference might not be significant for you. There are many that would disagree with me, but I just find the Allak is not great for wind. Perhaps you could try a Nammatj 3 (same weight as the Allak 2) and sleep at a diagonal? The Staika is a fair bit longer than the Allak, and sets up faster, but the weight is really starting to get up there. Regarding sleeping bags, I'm going to be moving back to Northern Minnesota next year, and will start doing videos on extreme cold gear / trips, so hopefully I can deliver on what you are looking for. Thanks again!
Fantastic editing and fabulously snappy and short!
Thanks very much Dehalove!
Hiya I sold my allak too as I didn’t rate it in high winds, seemed very flimsy. Another think that bugged me was the top hat, I thought it looked odd. I own a soulo red label which I can’t fault it’s an amazing tent and I’ve bought a staika which for me is the perfect tent, yeah it’s heavy but who cares it’s a beast of a tent and your only talking a couple of kilos different from the soulo. Don’t get me wrong the allak is a great tent just everyone’s got there own tastes. You can’t go wrong with hillebergs
Thanks Paul. How do you find the ventilation on the Staika rates against the Allak? I've got an Akto in addition to the Nammatj, and they are both stellar imo.
@@JoshuaJohnsonOutdoors it’s more or Less the same mate it’s pretty good
@@Paul-eu9jp thank you. Sorry for the slow reply, I only saw your message just now. Speaking of the top hat on the Allak, I accidentally removed mine once, and getting it back on took so long that it resulted in a big argument with my (then) girlfriend - so I feel your pain. lol
I thought you would say too heavy! It is a beast to haul around, but so comfortable once you get there. I also have the Nammatj II and Unna. In many ways, the Unna may be my favorite of the bunch!
It is too late now but you could have used the black label poles in the Allak which would have made it much more stable in higher wind scenarios.
Thanks for sharing your ideas Panthros!
nammatj 2 gt is gold. have it. is allak good to complement it in summer use for the ventilation?
Hi Danskbb, that's a good question. It has great ventilation for a 4 season tent, but to be honest, if ventilation is really important to you - I would suggest a 3 season tent instead of a 4 season tent. With the fly that goes all the way to the ground (on the Allak and similar red label tents) it's prevents most of the air from circulating under the fly and over the inner tent. Does that help?
Cool cooking setup in the snow!
Thanks plual226. I'm actually going to be doing videos on stoveboards, and diy jetboil too. :)
I own the Soulo RL and the NAMMATJ 3 GT (Basecamp with Huskys).
So i do agree, hehe ;)
In Fact i just came back two days ago from a Three week long trip on Corsica, the fourth-largest island in the Mediterranean only using the Soulo and a Tarp. It is absolutely amazing how much space there is for such a strong tent that you can carry around in a backpack and how cosy it is inside!
I think the Allak 3 is also an amazing tent, but I totally agree with your point.
The STAIKA would be on my top list if HILLEBERG would upgrade it with features from the Allak. In my mind it is a bit outdated. Still an amazing tent that has a very specific use in mind.
Wow, that must have been an incredible trip! I think even for the soulo black for example, it would have made all the difference had they designed the top guylines like the Staika (imo). Thanks for sharing your thoughts Sentor!
I agree totally with you wholeheartedly about Hilleberg’ need to update the Staika. They updated the Soulo to BL and they need to update the Staika as well. In fact, the old design of the Staika is the only thing holding me back from buying it.
For me I was choosing between the Allak and Jannu. Allak was just way to heavy
Thanks for sharing that, Sturla. How have you found the Jannu?
@@JoshuaJohnsonOutdoors Just remembered, it was a staika sorry. But yeah Jannu is good, only used it once, going again in mid december. Only thing I dont like is the vestibule size, hard to cook and do everything you can in the namatj for example
@@JoshuaJohnsonOutdoors but staika and allak are pretty much the same shape, thats why I was confused between the two. Also have a Solou which I like more vestibule wise
Hey there, I can't find the video about the Namatj
Hi There @couchcamperTM. I havent finished it yet. I've recorded the script, and now I'm just collecting more B-Roll. It should be finished in the next few months though. :) Thanks for watching. Do you have much experience with Hilleberg Tents?
@@JoshuaJohnsonOutdoors Months! bummer^^
I slept in a friends Akto once, that's all the experience I have. It was in fair weather, so I can't say it was something to write home about, not a real test, not for me, and not for the Akto ;-)
And if I had to choose one, the Namatj GT would be it, I don't like the limited space in a 1 person tent.
@@couchcamperTM nice. :) I think the GT is awesome for really cold weather. Let me know how you go if you pick one up please!
@@JoshuaJohnsonOutdoors well, that won't be this year, for sure. you know the price tag ;-)
Nice Video Thank You 👍 and a New Abonnent, grüße Michael
Thank you very much, Michael!
Nice to see that there is an explosion in out door gear content
Thanks Sean.
Could someone compare the ventilation between the Staika and Allak?
Hi Bima Zivanovic, I would say the ventilation on the Allak is far better than the Staika. The Allak has extra vents that the Staika doesn't have. I considered the same thing before I bought the Allak. I just felt the Staika was too heavy for the trips I tend to do - it probably serves better as a small basecamp style tent. Granted, I'd say the Staika is much easier and faster to setup than the Allak. Thanks for having a look.