For most of the golden era champs, their hamstrings were their biggest weaknesses. These guys'hammies weren't visible from the side and looked flat from the back.
tHANK YOU, i'm not the most educated in this matter by any means but that's the one thing i noticed and i really wondered why he didn't pick up on that
@@SeedOilFitnessOfficiali agree platz shouldve won but tom platz got dominated by franco colombou from the back and tom platz had a good back francos was just insnae
I think the first guy's weakness was leg development overall. Also one of the crazy things to me about Arnold and some of the other golden era guys is how low and their lats seem to insert. A lot of modern guys have huge lats but they are like higher up under the shoulder.
@@samk2407Can't say that about Dorian Yates and Ronnie Coleman's backs. Their lat attachments hung low. Low, draping, thick, and shredded backs with massive trap development as well. Two of the greatest backs of all time!
I saw Larry Scott in person on his comeback in the late 1970's here in Melbourne, Australia. Larry's weakness was his narrow shoulder width, which he disguised very well with super sized delts. His other weakness would be his chest, but overall Larry was an absolute legend and most worthy of being our first Mr Olympia. 👑👑
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Hadi is the worst Mr O not named Franco. Showing all of these guys just drives it home. Shredded as fuck yes. Not a great structure and lots of mediocre body parts.
I think Sergio's hamstrings and glutes were underdeveloped judging with modern standards. Hard to fault him because it was neglected by most everyone in that era
if you look up Sergio's routine online (not sure how accurate it is), he did zero direct hamstring work or any hip hinge work. the only leg exercises he did were squats and front squats.
@@tapeab1e well to be fair, you can tell that Arnold was better conditioned than him. Arnold had a sharp, chiseled jaw and sunken face on competition day, unlike Sergio. he didn't really eat "healthy," but for bodybuilding it's mostly just calories and macros that matter.
@@tapeab1eSergio said in an interview that the first time ever he dieted for a contest was for 1984 Olympia. He said that his wife convinced him to copy Frank Zane's diet and as a result he lost too much size that year, which of course, makes sense as Zane has completely different structure and physique than Sergio.
What I didn't like about Sergio O is that he has very long arms, relative to his small torso. It's hard to explain, but there's something not right with the upper body and the long arms. I always see that when I look at his "so-called perfect body"
I think that is what sets him apart because he has the small waist and as you said the long arms but the thing is they were huge and that is rare to see that combo of things long arms + big arms + tiny waist it creates an odd looking effect where it almost makes his waist look smaller then it really is or his arm bigger then they really are
Sorry, Larry Scott’s waist may have been a little wide, but it was his lack of lats that made it look like that. If he had a little bit wider lats his waist would’ve been fine!
@@dj_m19 well when you diet down the arms including the forearms are usually the first muscle to lose that size and that exposed much of them Yes Dorian and Jay both had great forearms until they both tore there biceps only leaving them with one good forearm each
@@jayalan9165 Dorian's forearms didn't change after his BICEP tear whatsoever and Cutler tore his bicep in 2013 when he retired. In other words he was the champion and competed 99% of his career with an intact bicep
Dorian always admitted that his upper arms were the toughest bodypart. His forearms were great. I'm no expert but I personally think his arms would have been better if he hadn't directly trained them at all. They got so much work in his back and chest training that anything more ended up being overtraining. .
Sergio Oliva Is One Of The Top 3 Most Genetically Gifted BB'S Of All Time But His Weakness Are Muscle Separation In Abs,Legs,Arms And At Times The Back,His Lack Of Conditioning Especially In 1970 And There Were Times His Presentation Was Off Which Was On The Judging Pannel During His Time.
Conditioning for all champions dropped off in the 2”00’s - compared to the 90’s guys they still look 6 weeks out and they’re holding so much water 🙁…thank goodness Hadi came along with sharp conditioning 👍🏻
Personally, I think 1983 Samir had the one of the greatest physiques of all time; the proportions; the thickness; the muscularity. Sure, he wasn't as big as later guys and he was not able to repeat that condition consistently but, wow, 1983 he was awesome.
My weakest body part is my body compared to any of them. If you took all the weakest parts from these guys and stuck them together on 1 guy, that guy would still be totally jacked.
"that's not a weak hunk of gyno" haha "sausage legs" i'd always heard that too. A perfect description perhaps - bc whenever i hear or see 81 Franco i think of sausage legs.
Great video. This proves to me and hopefully everyone else that the most complete and most all around best Mr.O belongs to Samir Bannout in 1983. No frigging weaknesses. He did get royally screwed in 1984. Cmon 6th place?...
For Hadi it's forearms in my opinion and honestly you could make a point for quads in Ramy's case. Even though they're separated they just throw the pysique off. Mannn Phil's earlier versions though... and Samir and Dexter pretty much perfect.
Spot on SERGIO SR Had No weak points None ..then Banout and Scott were the most complete. DORIAN was great but half his reign he was badly injured and had a bloaty gut ( which oddly compared to modern bodybuilders is small) 🤔
In fairness a lot of the top modern guys actually don't have such bloated midsections. Some of them have very wide midsections, but there's also a couple guys with really decent midsections
@MarxMaxMuscle You've mentioned Samir's midsection as a little bit wide ("but not really") and TOTALLY omitted wide midsection of Jay Cutler??? WOW! Simply wow... 😎
Hey man i really enjoy your content, do you maybe know why recent mr olympia competitors have way more vascularisation? is it some new drug or anything of that nature?
Agree, also in 1982 the next Olympia Platz had points deducted for a torn bicep. It seems that the judges didn't seem to care about that in the case of Yates.
I don't see how gyno doesn't count when it takes away from the aesthetics, which it absolutely does. If you look at a bodybuilder and the first thing you notice is puffy nipples, somethings wrong. Just my two cents.
Overall I enjoyed your video but I would like to add a few additional comments on the "golden-age" bodybuilders. Larry Scott was well known for having narrow clavicles even though he tried to overcome this weakness with a lot of shoulder exercises . The Austrian also had narrow, down-sloping shoulders, weak thighs, weak triceps and lacked lat flair. The Sicilian had a thick waist, short, knotty biceps and a weird, horizontal split across his pecs. He also appeared to be bull-legged. And finally, in regards to "The Chemist", I won't even go there because I always thought he was way overrated.
Arnold benefited from the economics of bodybuilding. As he himself has admitted, the Weider klan told him, "If we put Oliva on the cover, we sell X magazines. If we put Arnold on the cover, we sell 3X magazines.". So, they refused to let many top bodybuilders join their competitions on one pretext or another. In at least one such "competition", Arnold was the ONLY athlete entered. He came in last place. Which was also first place. I like Arnold, but he was an expert of fraud before Elon and Trump made it their specialty. And that's why Franco won his 'O': fraud and undue influence. And in this way, Arnold himself KILLED any legitimacy that BB was developing. And it never recovered.
I mean it’s an opinion based competition so unless there is clear dominance there will always be bias. Arnold as corrupt as he apparently was is still the main person advertising body building. You could know nothing about the sport, but you’ll know Arnold.
While watching this I was thinking it would be interesting to show the runner-up’s least impressive body parts. After all, they lost the contest for a reason. Also, I know lack of symmetry is not a body part, but some of these winners look like big blobs to me.
Frank Zane, in a fairly recent interview, made the comment muscle size was less important than than they looked, and moved under the lighting. A still photo for the purpose of this presentation will make it easier to pinpoint a bodybuilders weakness. A moving, flowing, Frank Zane knowing took advantage of the situation.
No offense but a wide waist is hardly a fair complaint since it's mostly genetic and really doesn't make much of an aesthetic difference, in fact I think it actually makes the vacuum look better. What matters more is the palumboism
For most of the golden era champs, their hamstrings were their biggest weaknesses.
These guys'hammies weren't visible from the side and looked flat from the back.
tHANK YOU, i'm not the most educated in this matter by any means but that's the one thing i noticed and i really wondered why he didn't pick up on that
Yeah, true, but they didn't even train them properly, you can as well say that every champion's weakness were their necks
How Tom Platz never won against Franco Columbo is beyond me.
Arnold rigged it for his buddy. Franco didnt deserve any Mr Olympia
@@SeedOilFitnessOfficial1976 Franco was good. 1981 Franco was awful, shouldn’t have gotten top 7
@@Boston84Both times Platz had the better Physique. Columbo had sausage legs and small arms and gyno chest
@@SeedOilFitnessOfficiali agree platz shouldve won but tom platz got dominated by franco colombou from the back and tom platz had a good back francos was just insnae
Tom didn’t want to play ball. He was a mass monster before it was cool
Samir is so underated! one of the best physiques ever deserve soo much more praise. Him and lee are the physique id want personally
I'm shocked looking at all of the champs Samir looked the best I think he was the best Mr.O of all times.
Indeed! 1983 Olympia gets overlooked between controversial 1980, 1981, 1982 and Lee Haney's era
too short and stumpy
@@MikeG82 Short is not bad shorter guys are better at bodybuilding so what are you talking about?
@@granddaddyofthemall6320he has no clue himself bro 😂😂😂
Sergio was gifted with PERFECT genetics and so far ahead of his time!
I think the first guy's weakness was leg development overall. Also one of the crazy things to me about Arnold and some of the other golden era guys is how low and their lats seem to insert. A lot of modern guys have huge lats but they are like higher up under the shoulder.
perfect ? shut up lmao 😆
@@samk2407 Excellent point! 👍👍
@@samk2407Can't say that about Dorian Yates and Ronnie Coleman's backs. Their lat attachments hung low. Low, draping, thick, and shredded backs with massive trap development as well. Two of the greatest backs of all time!
I saw Larry Scott in person on his comeback in the late 1970's here in Melbourne, Australia.
Larry's weakness was his narrow shoulder width, which he disguised very well with super sized delts. His other weakness would be his chest, but overall Larry was an absolute legend and most worthy of being our first Mr Olympia. 👑👑
Your Arnold impression was top tier
Never realised how crazy lee Haney’s conditioning was in 1988 that might just be his best Olympia package besides 91
Bro his arms was enormous femoral was weak point
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Samir was flawless, the ‘83 champion is massive underrated 👍🏻
hadi's forearms are a very weak body part, i probably would have chosen that
His entire arm/shoulders are unfortunately for Hadi.
Short, blocky torso, pointy delts, weak arms
@@wolololer Worst is a stretch, 82 Dickerson and 81 Franco are worse but he’s definitely not one of the best.
second worst olympia winner after rigged Franco
Hadi is the worst Mr O not named Franco. Showing all of these guys just drives it home.
Shredded as fuck yes. Not a great structure and lots of mediocre body parts.
I think Sergio's hamstrings and glutes were underdeveloped judging with modern standards.
Hard to fault him because it was neglected by most everyone in that era
if you look up Sergio's routine online (not sure how accurate it is), he did zero direct hamstring work or any hip hinge work. the only leg exercises he did were squats and front squats.
@@evaverma485he also supposedly didn’t have a diet. Just ate whatever he felt like. If true he might have the greatest genetics of all time.
@@tapeab1e well to be fair, you can tell that Arnold was better conditioned than him. Arnold had a sharp, chiseled jaw and sunken face on competition day, unlike Sergio. he didn't really eat "healthy," but for bodybuilding it's mostly just calories and macros that matter.
@@tapeab1eSergio said in an interview that the first time ever he dieted for a contest was for 1984 Olympia. He said that his wife convinced him to copy Frank Zane's diet and as a result he lost too much size that year, which of course, makes sense as Zane has completely different structure and physique than Sergio.
What I didn't like about Sergio O is that he has very long arms, relative to his small torso. It's hard to explain, but there's something not right with the upper body and the long arms. I always see that when I look at his "so-called perfect body"
Plus his biceps were flat with zero peaks
That allso
I think that is what sets him apart because he has the small waist and as you said the long arms but the thing is they were huge and that is rare to see that combo of things long arms + big arms + tiny waist it creates an odd looking effect where it almost makes his waist look smaller then it really is or his arm bigger then they really are
the arnold voice at 2:44 is amazing
Samir looked frickin' awesome in those pics! What a step up in the quality of bodybuilding that year!
Phil was also narrow compared to his rivals…never noticed Jay’s shrinking right side before - holy shit, was that nerve trouble?!
Looking at everybody I think Samir Bannout was the best Mr.O ever he was just perfect.
he would get destroyed by people who came after him, there's a reason he stopped placing high and lost his Sandow the very next year.
Samir was so complete!! His back was ahead of his time! Glad Samir gets some attention. 😃👍👍
Perfection is boring tbh
“You find a weakness. Go ahead, I’ll wait.”😂❤
Sorry, Larry Scott’s waist may have been a little wide, but it was his lack of lats that made it look like that. If he had a little bit wider lats his waist would’ve been fine!
Let's not forget the gyno and the split 4-pack gut
most overrated bodybuilder of all times
Most of them had forearm weakness as well
All of them but Phil really
@@jayalan9165 lol Dorian and Cutler most definitely didn't lack forearms, you're being a casual atm
@@dj_m19 well when you diet down the arms including the forearms are usually the first muscle to lose that size and that exposed much of them
Yes Dorian and Jay both had great forearms until they both tore there biceps only leaving them with one good forearm each
@@jayalan9165 " until they both tore there biceps only leaving them with one good forearm each"
think about what you just said
@@jayalan9165 Dorian's forearms didn't change after his BICEP tear whatsoever and Cutler tore his bicep in 2013 when he retired. In other words he was the champion and competed 99% of his career with an intact bicep
Samir is the most complete one I’ve seen in my life, guy was a phenom.
Would have been nice if you had also mentioned Flex Lewis. To me he belongs among the greatest bodybuilders of all time and is criminally underrated.
Sergio, Arnold and bodybuilders of those days definitely look much better than today's...
Dorian always admitted that his upper arms were the toughest bodypart. His forearms were great. I'm no expert but I personally think his arms would have been better if he hadn't directly trained them at all. They got so much work in his back and chest training that anything more ended up being overtraining.
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That's insane considering how Dorian said that he never worked his forearms directly.
Tearing his biceps like 6 times didn't help matters either lol
@@therustedshank9995 dont forget the triceps too. altough his arms were undersized compared to his torso even before all that
LMFAO that Arnold impersonation caught me off guard !! It was spot on 😂
Sergio Oliva Is One Of The Top 3 Most Genetically Gifted BB'S Of All Time But His Weakness Are Muscle Separation In Abs,Legs,Arms And At Times The Back,His Lack Of Conditioning Especially In 1970 And There Were Times His Presentation Was Off Which Was On The Judging Pannel During His Time.
Conditioning for all champions dropped off in the 2”00’s - compared to the 90’s guys they still look 6 weeks out and they’re holding so much water 🙁…thank goodness Hadi came along with sharp conditioning 👍🏻
Great job bro
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A lot of the early champs legs were their "weak point" I mean look at arnold bro was toooop heavy but tbh I prefer that look idk just looks clean
Arnold’s biceps were CRAZY. Those peaks
Samir Bannout, was in the top 3 my favorite physiques off all time!
9:10 that’s moustache won it for him LEGEND
That Arnold impersonation killed me 🤣
"that's the strongest gyno I've ever seen it's not weak."
- Marx Max Muscle
One of my favorite things in the entire world is arnold impressions
Personally, I think 1983 Samir had the one of the greatest physiques of all time; the proportions; the thickness; the muscularity. Sure, he wasn't as big as later guys and he was not able to repeat that condition consistently but, wow, 1983 he was awesome.
@TheLusianPopa If you're right, he probably should have won 1982. I like Chris Dickerson but no way he should beat a prime Samir.
Currys worst body part is his thick skin, that he always looks off and watery
Lol just like Akim Williams
My weakest body part is my body compared to any of them.
If you took all the weakest parts from these guys and stuck them together on 1 guy, that guy would still be totally jacked.
Nice video bro
Great video 😊
Lee Haney’s biceps in that ‘88 pic were popping
Sergio had a lot of facial water retention (deca/dbol), whereas Arnold's face always looked super chiseled on stage.
Running
Arnold ran primo
"that's not a weak hunk of gyno" haha
"sausage legs" i'd always heard that too. A perfect description perhaps - bc whenever i hear or see 81 Franco i think of sausage legs.
2:45 the Arnold impression 😂
Great video. This proves to me and hopefully everyone else that the most complete and most all around best Mr.O belongs to Samir Bannout in 1983. No frigging weaknesses. He did get royally screwed in 1984. Cmon 6th place?...
Ronnie had pancake tricep and horrible mid section. Phil had narrow clavicle
No tris/ horrendous mid section/ no calves/ gyno
Honestly, calves for basically everyone before Samir Bannout.
Great video idea
Samir Bannout for one year may have been most complete BBer ever.
1974 Arnold, holy cow!
Sergio had a boney left elbow in his later years
This was because he tore his left tricep.
For Hadi it's forearms in my opinion and honestly you could make a point for quads in Ramy's case. Even though they're separated they just throw the pysique off. Mannn Phil's earlier versions though... and Samir and Dexter pretty much perfect.
Spot on SERGIO SR Had No weak points None ..then Banout and Scott were the most complete. DORIAN was great but half his reign he was badly injured and had a bloaty gut ( which oddly compared to modern bodybuilders is small) 🤔
SERGIO- long biceps with no peaks whatsoever + one of the triceps longer than the other
Ronnie had a gut in his 7 mr olympia titles and a gyno
How about bicep peaks.. he had those big broad slabby arms.
In fairness a lot of the top modern guys actually don't have such bloated midsections. Some of them have very wide midsections, but there's also a couple guys with really decent midsections
Imo it was more of a problem in the Phil heath era
Sergio Oliva - Glutes, traps, leg separation... Samir truly has no weaknesses lol
SAMIR NAILED IT ! DORIAN HAD THE BEST BACK "EVER" ! OF COURSE, LOVE ZANE !
Lee Haney was the perfect blend of old school and future physiques. Very impressive and dominate Mr. O
I love the Arnold impressions they're hilarious
The forearms on some of these dudes is phenomenal
18:24 that J-Roc moment got me 🤣🤣🤣 erra erra
not him trying not to say legs for the older guys 😂
Very good video
Body dysmorphia personified
You got a killer arnold impression
Samir underrated af.
If that's a trailer park boys reference at 18:20 you're a legend.
I like your voice 😊
That Arnold accent was surprisingly good
@MarxMaxMuscle You've mentioned Samir's midsection as a little bit wide ("but not really") and TOTALLY omitted wide midsection of Jay Cutler??? WOW! Simply wow... 😎
Yeah Jay probably had the widest midsection but he was also the widest ever in the shoulders
Hey man i really enjoy your content, do you maybe know why recent mr olympia competitors have way more vascularisation? is it some new drug or anything of that nature?
6:55 I don’t have to see any other poses to know Platz should’ve placed higher than Franco
Agree, also in 1982 the next Olympia Platz had points deducted for a torn bicep. It seems that the judges didn't seem to care about that in the case of Yates.
Samir’s right arm was significantly larger than his left.
lol hello Big Paul. Am I the only one who recognizes your voice?
I don't see how gyno doesn't count when it takes away from the aesthetics, which it absolutely does. If you look at a bodybuilder and the first thing you notice is puffy nipples, somethings wrong. Just my two cents.
Weider TOOK THE TITLE FROM THE MYTH
Loved Samir.
Hadi's weakest part should be his shoulders. He uses SEO...
I miss Ronny Rockel. If daddy Bison remembers correctly, the highest he placed was 6th at the O. Big doood!
Overall I enjoyed your video but I would like to add a few additional comments on the "golden-age" bodybuilders. Larry Scott was well known for having narrow clavicles even though he tried to overcome this weakness with a lot of shoulder exercises . The Austrian also had narrow, down-sloping shoulders, weak thighs, weak triceps and lacked lat flair. The Sicilian had a thick waist, short, knotty biceps and a weird, horizontal split across his pecs. He also appeared to be bull-legged. And finally, in regards to "The Chemist", I won't even go there because I always thought he was way overrated.
Arnold had underdeveloped delts, but he wasn't narrow.
One of the perks of being so tall
You’re spot on about a lot but you shut your ***** mouth on Franco’s chest split! He built and earned that! 😂 It’s damn impressive. (All in fun bro)
@@dj_m19 Check out the '80 Mr. O and compare the Austrian's shoulder width to another tall bodybuilder, Dennis Tinerino.
Arnold had wide shoulders.
@@SeptemberChild1835wide clavicle, underdeveloped side/rear delt area
Sergio was the best, his conditioning was literally his only weakness, if he had perfected that, Arnold would have been 2nd forever!
Arnold benefited from the economics of bodybuilding. As he himself has admitted, the Weider klan told him, "If we put Oliva on the cover, we sell X magazines. If we put Arnold on the cover, we sell 3X magazines.".
So, they refused to let many top bodybuilders join their competitions on one pretext or another. In at least one such "competition", Arnold was the ONLY athlete entered. He came in last place. Which was also first place.
I like Arnold, but he was an expert of fraud before Elon and Trump made it their specialty.
And that's why Franco won his 'O': fraud and undue influence. And in this way, Arnold himself KILLED any legitimacy that BB was developing. And it never recovered.
I mean it’s an opinion based competition so unless there is clear dominance there will always be bias. Arnold as corrupt as he apparently was is still the main person advertising body building. You could know nothing about the sport, but you’ll know Arnold.
Holy shit how have I never heard of Samir Bannout lol incredible physique
That wasn't Tom Platz against Franco in 1976. I believe it was Kal Skzlack or something close to that. Might be misspelled.
up until ronnie everyones weakest bodypart were the hamstrings
4:56
Tom Platz wasn’t in the 1976 Mr. Olympia contest. I think he won the Universe in 1978 and was first eligible in 1979.
While watching this I was thinking it would be interesting to show the runner-up’s least impressive body parts. After all, they lost the contest for a reason. Also, I know lack of symmetry is not a body part, but some of these winners look like big blobs to me.
Can you Imagine if an open class Olympian, an under 200lbs man won? The ultimate roar! L Frank Zane could can 10-15lbs for classique devision! 😂😂😂
i like how he changes his voice for arnold
IMHO I think Coleman’s weakest body part was the tricep. He never had that horse shoe/eagle claw look about them.
@TheLusianPopatris/ calves/ abs
Sergio was as perfect as you get. Better than Arnold.
Hadi has massively improved his calves this year.
Bro would give me the most insane body dysmorphia 😂
larry scott didnt have very big legs im surprised you didn't put that as his weakness considering waist is literally uncontrollable
Sergios biceps and lack of detailing are definitely weaknesses
Frank Zane 1979 is mind blowing
Frank Zane, in a fairly recent interview, made the comment muscle size was less important than than they looked, and moved under the lighting. A still photo for the purpose of this presentation will make it easier to pinpoint a bodybuilders weakness. A moving, flowing, Frank Zane knowing took advantage of the situation.
Prime Dorian was insane, but he shouldn’t have won after he tore his biceps
W Arnold Voice impression
No offense but a wide waist is hardly a fair complaint since it's mostly genetic and really doesn't make much of an aesthetic difference, in fact I think it actually makes the vacuum look better. What matters more is the palumboism
What's going to be Derek's weakest body part when he wins the Mr Olympia this year in 2023 🤔
Watching this made me realize how much the Mr Olympia has gone to shit.